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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge, presented by DraftKings. I'm Gary Downing

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Speaker 1: and joined by Clifton Brown, and today we're so excited

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Speaker 1: to introduce you to the new offensive coordinator of the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, Declan Doyle. Declan, congratulations and welcome to Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: So what excites you about this opportunity to come here

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Speaker 1: and join this team and join this staff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a number of things. Obviously, the

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Speaker 2: organization is is a historic organization that you know, I've

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Speaker 2: followed for a long time just from Afar that the

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Speaker 2: you know, the personnel side, the front office is well

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Speaker 2: respected throughout the league.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, the ability to join Jesse and

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Speaker 2: this staff and be able to kind of put together

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Speaker 2: our spin on what the Baltimore Ravens are going to

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Speaker 2: look like. And then the addition of you know, our

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Speaker 2: work with those guys. A lot certainly a lot of

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Speaker 2: talent here, uh, and I can't really wait to get

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious what goes on behind the scenes during

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Speaker 1: the coaching carousel process. It's like when your phone rings

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Speaker 1: and it's Jesse Minster or Eric the Costa, whoever was

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Speaker 1: that made the initial call. But when it's the Baltimore

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Speaker 1: Ravens on the other end saying, hey, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: this opportunity. Like, what were the first thoughts that went

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Speaker 1: through your mind?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's kind of a two way street.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're obviously weighing all the options as far

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Speaker 2: as you know, I was in Chicago and felt really

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Speaker 2: good about that situation, and yet at the same point

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Speaker 2: in time, being able to come here and be able

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Speaker 2: to install an offense from the ground level, you know,

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Speaker 2: be able to put together a staff, be able to

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Speaker 2: call plays, really for my first time, and you know,

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Speaker 2: join Jesse. I was certainly very excited about that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, you add in Lamar and our players.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just it's a surreal opportunity, and yet

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Speaker 2: it's one that I feel very ready to do and

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the Bears. You guys had a fantastic season

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Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator there. How beneficial do you think that year,

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Speaker 3: just lands year will be to you coming into this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's incredibly beneficial, you know, to be

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Speaker 2: a part of a program that kind of just had

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Speaker 2: a year one where you're you're trying to implement the

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Speaker 2: standards and the details of what we were asking, you know,

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Speaker 2: both as a team and as an offense. And it's

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Speaker 2: really similar to what we're going to go through here

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Speaker 2: this year, and so you know, going through the off season,

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Speaker 2: going through you know, OTAs in training camp, it's really

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Speaker 2: going to mirror a lot of what we just went through,

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Speaker 2: and so that experience is going to be, you know,

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Speaker 2: really invaluable for me as as we kind of work

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the play calling aspect. You know, obviously you

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Speaker 3: know Ben called a play last year, but everything we've

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Speaker 3: heard and read you were very involved with putting the

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Speaker 3: game playing together. In your mind, what do you think

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Speaker 3: is the biggest adjustment for you as being the guy

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Speaker 3: will be this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the biggest thing is that you're the

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Speaker 2: was trying to prepare the plan as though you know,

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Speaker 2: Ben may have had other things going on as the

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Speaker 2: to put your own spin on some of those things

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Speaker 2: as we go through that process. This is really a

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Speaker 2: we don't want it to feel like this isn't my offense.

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Speaker 2: This isn't it. This is our offense. This is the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six Baltimore Ravens. This is what we wanted

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Speaker 1: So Ben Johnson is known as, you know, one of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the detail and the championship standard that

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Speaker 2: There was a commitment to it every single day as

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Speaker 2: We're going to make sure that they understand what the

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Speaker 2: it's establishing, you know, the standards that we expect. It's

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Speaker 1: It's great. So obviously a big thing is is you

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Speaker 1: know a question you've heard this before is going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it I mean, this is going to be

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Speaker 2: But really the first time I was ever older than

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Speaker 2: So really, you know, my entire coaching experience has been

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Speaker 2: a setback. I think that experience is what counts. And

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Speaker 2: certainly as an offensive guy, you know, the amount of

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the word connected together, like that's something that

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Speaker 1: we heard many times during Jesse's introductory press carvers. I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing in this process, as you went through the interview

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it starts with relationships, and relationships are

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Speaker 2: essentially you know, trust is built off communication and accountability

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Speaker 2: And that's how we're going to build trust, you know,

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Speaker 2: It's a huge piece of you know, what we what

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Speaker 2: And that goes for every player that we have, and

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The relationships are always going to be, you know, the

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Speaker 2: always will be that way. And Uh, I'm certainly excited

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Speaker 3: Yeah, trust Mechlin. For some of my age, being twenty nine,

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Speaker 3: what you expected the players. What does a declan offense

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Speaker 3: declan door offense look like? Is definitely you know, obviously

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Speaker 3: want to score a touch the other time you get it.

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Speaker 3: But what are the characteristics that you want to see

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the non negotiables are that one, we're

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Speaker 1: Able to do it.

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Speaker 1: The off schedule piece, I'm curious your perspective on that,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's the benefit of having a quarterback

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Speaker 2: Everything we do is pointed, it's calculated, and it is

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Speaker 3: Have you decided if you're going to call players from

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Speaker 2: I haven't yet. I'd like to do both. I kind

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Speaker 2: You know, you can be inspired by you know, other

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Speaker 3: The running attack here, I was just been hugely successful

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Speaker 2: kind of starts in the run game. Your ability to

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Speaker 2: move the ball, your ability to move the line of

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Speaker 2: scrimmage and force defenders to have to fit their primary

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Speaker 2: gap immediately off the snap. It's got to be a

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Speaker 2: huge piece of what we're going to do. We want

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Speaker 2: the ability to morphy. I'm not necessarily like, hey, we

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Speaker 2: need to run the ball fifty percent and throw the

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Speaker 2: ball fifty percent. We need to do whatever's best against

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Speaker 2: this defense as much as possible, and so those ratios

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Speaker 2: can change week to week. We want to be able

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Speaker 2: to morph week to week as far as what we

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Speaker 2: may look like on tape. But at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, you know, we will need to be able

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Speaker 2: to run the ball. We're going to be able to

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Speaker 2: run the ball, and those things are going to have

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Speaker 2: to be detailed out so that we put our players

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Speaker 2: in position to have success.

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Speaker 3: How much do you think that the running attack is

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Speaker 3: an important piece of getting in once you get into

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, getting further that, you know, the later gets

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Speaker 3: in the season, that if you can run the football effectively,

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Speaker 3: because obviously one of the goals here is to get

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Speaker 3: the Ravens to win a Super Bowl. They've been able

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Speaker 3: to get to the playoffs, but in recent years getting

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Speaker 3: beyond that has been more difficult. How much do you

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Speaker 3: think is the running game can help you guys get

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Speaker 3: over the top.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a huge piece, especially as you get

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Speaker 2: later in the season you start dealing with you know,

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Speaker 2: the weather element, things where you know are kind of

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Speaker 2: outside of your control. But as you're in the passing game,

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Speaker 2: you know those things may not be as effective just

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Speaker 2: because of you know, wind or snow or rain or

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Speaker 2: any of that stuff. The rushing attack has to be

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Speaker 2: there all season. It's not like it just needs to

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Speaker 2: show up in the playoffs or it's important then, but

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Speaker 2: it needs to be a piece that that, you know,

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Speaker 2: we can really hang our hat on when when you

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Speaker 2: know we're flying off the ball, we feel like there

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Speaker 2: are staple plays that we can get back to anytime,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it's something that obviously is going to

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Speaker 2: be really important as we get into postseason play and

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Speaker 2: beyond that.

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Speaker 1: You talked about your coaching career, and you worked under

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton at a couple of different places in New

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Speaker 1: Orleans and in Denver. Obviously he's been one of the

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Speaker 1: best coaches in the NFL over the course of his

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Speaker 1: career and really innovative on the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: How valuable has that experience been from working under Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton and what have you taken from that?

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Speaker 2: I think it's been extremely valuable. You know, I watched

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Speaker 2: a guy that operated at a really high level and

489
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Speaker 2: I worked with him for five years. You know, is

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Speaker 2: we're talking about a guy that's going to have a

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Speaker 2: gold jacket on him someday and to be able to

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Speaker 2: see him operate, you know, all the positives and the negatives.

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Speaker 2: Every part of my experience with him was outstanding because

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Speaker 2: really you're learning, you know, not only from an offensive mine,

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Speaker 2: but from a head coach that has been successful in

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Speaker 2: two different spots. I got to see him. You know,

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Speaker 2: we talked about the experience of getting to Denver and

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Speaker 2: being or excuse me, beginning to Chicago in that first

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Speaker 2: year and trying to rebuild something. We really went through

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Speaker 2: the same thing in Denver when we got there. You know,

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Speaker 2: it was a program that hadn't had very much success

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Speaker 2: in recent times, and so you were starting to flip

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Speaker 2: that mindset and what went into that. It's something that

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Speaker 2: you know, I pull from every day, just my experience

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Speaker 2: with him, and you know, my experience at at Iowa

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Speaker 2: and Chicago as well. But it's certainly been a huge

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Speaker 2: piece of who I've become as a coach.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier talking with Lamar in this process a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Obviously, it's probably been limited just in the

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Speaker 1: interview process or since being hired, But what have you

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Speaker 1: taken from those conversations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been limited, but I would say this, I

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Speaker 2: feel a guy that is hungry to learn, hungry to grow,

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Speaker 2: very excited about the opportunity need to work together as

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to work with him. You know, a guy

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Speaker 2: that knows that his his ceiling still is hasn't been

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Speaker 2: reached yet. And that's a cool thing, you know that

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Speaker 2: to be able to get a guy to play at

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Speaker 2: the highest level that he's capable of, and him being

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Speaker 2: open to that, and so every conversation has been really good,

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Speaker 2: you know, thus far, I'm really excited to get him,

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Speaker 2: you know, back here with the rest of our players

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Speaker 2: and get to work.

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Speaker 3: I know that, you know, I've read that you were

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Speaker 3: a baseball guy growing up, but I know you've been

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Speaker 3: around football your whole life, your fathers strengthen conditioning codes.

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Speaker 3: Just how much is football shaped you? And not only

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Speaker 3: as a coach, but as.

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Speaker 2: A person tremendously. I mean, I grew up around Iowa

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Speaker 2: football really my whole childhood. We moved there when I

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Speaker 2: was three years old, and I've really been around football

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Speaker 2: my whole life, and so it's been a huge piece

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Speaker 2: of my life. Being able to be around teams, being

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Speaker 2: around culture, watching how people interact together. You know, every

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Speaker 2: every guy I've ever looked up to, has been a

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Speaker 2: coaching figure, and so those are all the people that

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Speaker 2: I spent time around when I was a kid kind

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Speaker 2: of growing up. Those were my parents' friends and things

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Speaker 2: like that, and so it's been a huge piece of

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Speaker 2: who I am and who I am as a coach.

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Speaker 1: It's great, Well, man, Well, it's enjoyable to sit down

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Speaker 1: and talk with you. I really really enjoy getting your

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Speaker 1: perspective and look forward to working with you and seeing

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Speaker 1: what you and the whole staff can do with this offense.

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Speaker 3: Awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys for having me you awesome.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into the Lasch Podcast. We are coming to

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Speaker 1: you from the Seat Geek Studio. We want to mention

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Speaker 1: The Crown is yours, so big. Thanks to Declan for

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Speaker 1: joining us. Just enjoy the conversation with him. You can

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Speaker 1: see why the Ravens were interested in bringing him here

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Speaker 1: to Baltimore. Obviously, has a vision, has a clear identity

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Speaker 1: of what he wants from an offense. Super smart. You

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Speaker 1: can tell that just in talking with him, and I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to see what he does with this.

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Speaker 3: Group, no question. I mean, I can certainly picture him

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Speaker 3: killing a job interview. His answers are precise, well thought out, clear,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, I was just visualizing him talking to Lamar

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Speaker 3: in his helmet, you know, calling plays, their conversations together.

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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be exciting for Lamar to

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Speaker 3: work with Declan and vice versa. With Lamar's ability as

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Speaker 3: a player and the stage as he is at his

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Speaker 3: career where he has experience, and yet, as Declan said, yeah,

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Speaker 3: as good as he's been winning two MVPs, he still

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Speaker 3: doesn't think he's reached his ceiling. If Declan can help

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Speaker 3: Lamar exceed where he's already been, that should also help

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Speaker 3: the Ravens get where they want to go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about that. And I also liked a

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Speaker 1: couple of things that stood out and hearing from him.

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Speaker 1: One physical I think when you see, like I guess,

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Speaker 1: a young New Age coordinator, you think of passing game,

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Speaker 1: think of trick plays, and you think of the pizazz, right,

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Speaker 1: but like at its core, you need to be able

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Speaker 1: to be a team that can move people off the ball,

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Speaker 1: that can establish the run and that opens up so

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Speaker 1: many other things, and that is clearly an instrumental piece

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Speaker 1: of what he wants this offense to be. And it's

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Speaker 1: a good point about Chicago. The Bears are great at

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Speaker 1: running the football last year and so that's an element

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Speaker 1: that is definitely going to be part of this offense.

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Speaker 1: And the other part too, is, like he talked about

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Speaker 1: morphing the offense, He's not going to be so rigid

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Speaker 1: in exactly what they run. He's going to have the

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Speaker 1: plays off of plays, have a system, and they're going

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Speaker 1: to be able to morph from game to game, series

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Speaker 1: to series, half to half, and that that is going

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Speaker 1: to be part of their identity. Right.

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Speaker 3: Physicality on offense is something that people probably don't think

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Speaker 3: about as much as they should. I mean, everybody wants

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Speaker 3: to be a physical defensive team, but being physical on

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Speaker 3: offense cures a lot of things, particularly if you have

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Speaker 3: a back like Derek Henry, and then once you a

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Speaker 3: stat pablished that, then that makes everything else easier. And

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Speaker 3: I think that's kind of his philosophy. And if the

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Speaker 3: Ravens can can do that, be a physical offensive team

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Speaker 3: throwing Dereck Henry at you, you know, week after week

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Speaker 3: and then late in the season into the playoffs, weather

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Speaker 3: can get lousy and you may not be able to

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Speaker 3: do some of the things through the passing game that

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Speaker 3: you want to that you always have that hat to

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Speaker 3: hang on, and so the tools are here for the

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Speaker 3: Ravens to be an elite offensive team. They were in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty twenty twenty four regress some last year. That's

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Speaker 3: what they want to get back to the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four offense. And beyond that, and Declan I think sees

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Speaker 3: with Lamar Zay, Derek and so many other pieces, if

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Speaker 3: they're a physical offense, their offense will roll.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I also love this answer on the age question.

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Speaker 1: That's going to come up. As always, he'll be answering

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Speaker 1: questions about that all year, you know, just because that's

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Speaker 1: part of the conversation and it stands out, you know,

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Speaker 1: the headline. But I think that his answer was great

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Speaker 1: and I agree with him. I think that in some

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Speaker 1: ways it could be an advantage and there's a connection there,

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Speaker 1: and so I think I don't think being twenty nine

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Speaker 1: years old will be a detriment to him at all.

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Speaker 3: As you said, No, I don't, and you know, young

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Speaker 3: coaches have had plenty of success easily. I mean, Mike

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Speaker 3: McDonald's still a young coach. He did pretty well this

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Speaker 3: past year. Yeah, Sean McVay, he's still pretty young, and

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Speaker 3: when he was younger won a Super Bowl. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: that to me is kind of where the league is

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Speaker 3: trending now. You know, you don't have to be young,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to be old, you have to be good.

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Speaker 3: And so I think that he has enough experience that

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Speaker 3: Glinn to be a good, if not even better than good,

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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. Everyone has to start sometime. Your first year,

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Speaker 3: no matter how old or young you are, has to

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Speaker 3: be your first year at some point. So, yes, you

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Speaker 3: know this will be his first year as a play caller,

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Speaker 3: but I think he's ready for the job. All also

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Speaker 3: has coaches around him who can help him, you know,

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Speaker 3: And he always says, as Jesse Mentor has said since

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Speaker 3: he first got the job, it's not just going to

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Speaker 3: be about one person. It's a collaborative thing. So he's

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Speaker 3: got people to lean on. He's got a talented quarterback

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Speaker 3: running his offense. Yeah, I don't think the twenty nine

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Speaker 3: year old age is going to be a factor at all.

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Speaker 3: And whether he succeeds or fails.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm excited about him, even more excited after

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Speaker 1: the conversation. Absolutely today. So as always, you can email

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