Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, it's Devin Simone.
Speaker 2: Hey y'all, it's Davion Rogers and this is MTV's official
Speaker 2: challenge podcast, Woo Day.
Speaker 1: The streets are hot, the streets are talking.
Speaker 3: There's a lot going on. This episode had a lot
Speaker 3: going on as well. First, I gotta say, look, I
Speaker 3: know I've seen the DMS about the Bananas thing, all right,
Speaker 3: and I know I've had some strong opinions and still
Speaker 3: did about the Mariah and James thing. But Bananas is
Speaker 3: acting like a straight up f boy.
Speaker 1: So take that. Take that what you will.
Speaker 3: And I can admit when I need more information before
Speaker 3: I give an opinion on things. So I just say
Speaker 3: that I don't condone Banana's behavior either.
Speaker 4: But we love this accountability.
Speaker 3: We we love accountability here right, nobody's above it. We
Speaker 3: love accountability. We also love this week's episode. Okay, So
Speaker 3: first we have the challenge called Bingo Bengo right three
Speaker 3: times fighting in a pit full of mud, and I'm
Speaker 3: talking about nasty mud like, not even that good spa
Speaker 3: mud like. Really, the producers must not like you all.
Speaker 3: Then we have the winning team, which is the Red Team.
Speaker 3: He Manuel Arassio, Island, Zara Berna and Colleen, but it
Speaker 3: looked like there was a little bit of sabotage and
Speaker 3: going on in there.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 3: Then we have the winners vote in Melissa, and that
Speaker 3: gets a little heated too. I mean we see Neurice
Speaker 3: making eyes at had Ostrio like, boy, you better get
Speaker 3: in line.
Speaker 1: Ultimately ends up being Melissa.
Speaker 3: Then the house itself votes in Big Tea, which Melissa
Speaker 3: was doing everything in her power not to let that
Speaker 3: be the case, but ultimately the girls and their friendship
Speaker 3: just couldn't save themselves. Then we get into the draw.
Speaker 3: Who's the champ that's coming out this week? We're talking Cass,
Speaker 3: Yes Challenge World Champion, Cast, Yes Challenge UK Champion, Caz
Speaker 3: two time champion, Like she's a hundred percent winner. Those
Speaker 3: are some impressive stats she's coming up. She draws Big Tea.
Speaker 3: So now we got Big T versus Cass. It seems
Speaker 3: like the whole house is actually voting for Cast, which
Speaker 3: is just a whole other level of wrong. But you
Speaker 3: know whatever, Right, Well, Big T says, don't give up
Speaker 3: on me, my lip gloss or my wig, although she
Speaker 3: almost forgot.
Speaker 1: Her wig when she was leaving the arena.
Speaker 3: She goes against Kaz send Kaz home, which means Big
Speaker 3: Tea is the first person to ever eliminate Kaz in
Speaker 3: a challenge game.
Speaker 1: Power. Yes, absolutely powerful.
Speaker 3: So not only did Big T save the ten thousand
Speaker 3: dollars in the prize pot, she saved her behind as well.
Speaker 3: And now she's coming back into the house to day.
Speaker 3: What were your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Y'all, Benna, stop sending my girl down there, because one thing,
Speaker 2: I'm a firm believer.
Speaker 4: The more youth in a person to the elimination, the
Speaker 4: stronger they be.
Speaker 1: Come like, she's gonna come back.
Speaker 4: She's gonna come back hungrier.
Speaker 3: Every saw it last season with Chris saw last season every.
Speaker 2: Time you could come back hungry or let that girl alone. Okay,
Speaker 2: she took out a toll time challenge Champ. Sure you're
Speaker 2: gonna let me tell her nothing. You ain't gonna be
Speaker 2: able to made it look easy look kind of easy
Speaker 2: when she did it.
Speaker 4: And baby has strategy?
Speaker 3: Do you think has absolutely had strategy?
Speaker 1: You're smart with it. I think they underestimate Big.
Speaker 3: T the same way I feel like Melissa underestimates Corey's gameplay.
Speaker 1: Because Melissa said, we're gonna get into the.
Speaker 3: Timeouts, why don't we just get into the time about nomination.
Speaker 3: So my contenders first one is gonna be Melissa, because Melissa,
Speaker 3: I don't know what show or game you've been watching
Speaker 3: or participating in, but from what we've seen the last
Speaker 3: few episodes, there's a lot of things you can trust
Speaker 3: in that house.
Speaker 1: Corey is not one of them.
Speaker 3: Not so when Melissa says, oh, I feel like I
Speaker 3: can trust Corey girl with what she's like, he's on
Speaker 3: his own island. Yes, for good reason, ma'am don't trust him,
Speaker 3: So she is a contender for in the time out.
Speaker 3: Also does Asoff know he's a part of the international community.
Speaker 3: The way aesof has just turned on everything international is
Speaker 3: just wild to me, Like, I understand you're a part
Speaker 3: of this alliance too, but bruh, Like where is the
Speaker 3: loyalty at all? And then my other Timeout contenders are
Speaker 3: all the people who had a sour face when Big
Speaker 3: t One, all the people who had a sour puss
Speaker 3: face when she won. Their contenders for I'm out and
Speaker 3: my award for time Out is actually going to go
Speaker 3: to the sour pusses. Yep, I'm gonna need you to
Speaker 3: eat krog just like I had to do. Earlier in
Speaker 3: this episode recognized to stop playing with Big T and
Speaker 3: be happy like because you guys are still technically a
Speaker 3: part of a team that needs you have more money
Speaker 3: in your prize pot. She still can be advantageous as
Speaker 3: you guys are working with her in the game.
Speaker 2: So shout out to Big T, who gets your time out?
Speaker 2: My timeout go to Melissa hands down. Maybe keep your
Speaker 2: mind to yourself. I don't play that. Keep your feet
Speaker 2: to yourself, your hands and everything that's cool with your feet,
Speaker 2: keep your feet to yourself.
Speaker 4: I don't play that. You don't kick We won't do that.
Speaker 2: And it was somebody they weren't even in the game,
Speaker 2: wasn't even in play. The ball was already gone. So
Speaker 2: you kick me off some snake stuff.
Speaker 4: That's a problem. And if Nuris would have turned around
Speaker 4: in well PG thirteen.
Speaker 1: Davon is working on herself.
Speaker 2: I'm working if you're not, I'm finding it work, I'm
Speaker 2: finding it. So that is my time out for the week.
Speaker 2: I I think that that was very low. My gold
Speaker 2: star of the week goes to my little engine that could,
Speaker 2: and that is Big T. I love me some her
Speaker 2: and I'm giving it to her one because she proved
Speaker 2: herself to be who she.
Speaker 4: Is in this game.
Speaker 2: She is a challenger. Please stop underestimating her. She is
Speaker 2: a challenger.
Speaker 4: And then also could she saved the day, y'all could
Speaker 4: have easily lost ten thousand dollars from your little pot.
Speaker 2: She secured the bag literally, So I'm going to give
Speaker 2: it to Big T for sure.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Big T.
Speaker 3: I'm going to have to give my gold star in
Speaker 3: conjunction with Davon to Big T because she just dominated
Speaker 3: to such a beautiful job, had a beautiful attitude and energy.
Speaker 3: I hope she's proud of herself. She was so excited
Speaker 3: she forgot her wits. She left her hair in the arena.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it bees like that.
Speaker 4: We don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just yeah. Usually I don't. I mean, I'm bury mine,
Speaker 1: as you guys know.
Speaker 4: But she did.
Speaker 3: She was that excited. So shout out to Big T
Speaker 3: for being the gold star. You guys, we have so
Speaker 3: much coming up in this interview. You know, there's been
Speaker 3: some talk in the Twitter streets. We're gonna get into that.
Speaker 3: There's also been talk around this whole Mariah James Bananas thing.
Speaker 3: I was tagging some stuff day, was tagging some stuff
Speaker 3: about me, so was our guest, and so yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: excited for us to get down to it and talk
Speaker 3: it out and talk out all the other things that
Speaker 3: went on this episode, including a lot of.
Speaker 1: Tea that you didn't get to see.
Speaker 4: You know, we love that.
Speaker 3: So grab a snack, do some exercises trained like you're
Speaker 3: gonna be the next mercenary in a season of the Challenge,
Speaker 3: so that way you're prepared, and stay tuned right here
Speaker 3: because we have a very special guest. We're talking the
Speaker 3: fabulous Nourise Matteo coming up right after this.
Speaker 2: I am so excited about our guests today. I was
Speaker 2: a very vocal while the season was filming that that
Speaker 2: is my girl. I love her and I'm so excited
Speaker 2: to see her play this season. We have Nourse joining
Speaker 2: us today on the podcast Give it Up on top
Speaker 2: of Misinsrae, Hello, everybody, welcome.
Speaker 5: I'm nervous to be here today.
Speaker 3: Wait, why you come across as the never scared woman
Speaker 3: on the Challenge, So why are you nervous to be here?
Speaker 5: I really, I really am not. I'm so outspoken. It's
Speaker 5: kind of bad. I think that's why I think watching
Speaker 5: it back and seeing how outspoken I've been I'm like, wow, okay,
Speaker 5: maybe sometimes you need to shut up. And now I'm
Speaker 5: on here and all we're all we're gonna be doing
Speaker 5: is talking and chitch and like you know, gossiping, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, you're the thing. You're on grave, but I'm
Speaker 5: never I'm here to give Yell the tea.
Speaker 2: We want to get in to wait because baby, before
Speaker 2: we even jump into this episode, I want to know
Speaker 2: what's going on in the social.
Speaker 4: Media streets with you and miss Olivia.
Speaker 5: What's that not the social media.
Speaker 1: They give a reference really quick though, what you're talking about?
Speaker 4: What's what's going on? Because there was a video going around.
Speaker 2: I saw it on the Twitter streets, but apparently she
Speaker 2: was live on the Instagram where she was speaking and
Speaker 2: she was very very like it wasn't very clear. She
Speaker 2: was very vague, but she just said about the Nurise situation.
Speaker 2: What's the Nourise situation?
Speaker 5: I think, uh, I think what the fans are seeing
Speaker 5: is because obviously I don't follow her anymore. I removed
Speaker 5: her as a follower and followed her and from there,
Speaker 5: obviously a lot of the fans they pay attention to
Speaker 5: those things. I don't know how they even figure these
Speaker 5: things out. But they found out that I unfollowed her,
Speaker 5: and I think they're just nosy and they want to
Speaker 5: know why me and her aren't friends anymore?
Speaker 4: Wait, can you give us a clue?
Speaker 5: Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait, wait wait, but can we get a clue as
Speaker 1: to why you guys? Does it have to do with
Speaker 1: anything that starts with a sound, you know, like.
Speaker 5: A an h? No?
Speaker 3: No, obsolutely no, not not at all, okay, just curious.
Speaker 1: So then so it has to.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I could give y'all a clue
Speaker 5: just yet.
Speaker 3: Nurice, don't overthink just overshare wasn't significant enough that it
Speaker 3: should really back to you all's friendship, because you, guys
Speaker 3: seem like you had a real, true outside of the house,
Speaker 3: you know, not like a Corey and ASoft friendship where
Speaker 3: Corey set out do you two in weeks and ASoft
Speaker 3: was like, why'd you vote me in? But like you
Speaker 3: and Olivia like a real friendship, And so was this
Speaker 3: thing significant enough to really change that?
Speaker 5: I say so? I think so. I pride myself on
Speaker 5: having like I. One of the few things you can
Speaker 5: be is a great friend to other people, and I
Speaker 5: am very grateful and I think everybody that's like my
Speaker 5: actual close friend is someone that has the moment answered
Speaker 5: my life to haven't left. I treat my friends the
Speaker 5: exact same way I want to be treated, and that
Speaker 5: the energy wasn't reciprocated. And sometimes people aren't meant to
Speaker 5: stay in your life forever. They're just meant to be
Speaker 5: there for a little bit, you know, teach you some
Speaker 5: life lessons and then you keep a pushing And I
Speaker 5: think that's kind of where I'm at with her right
Speaker 5: now in life.
Speaker 1: So day, what are your thoughts on that you're making
Speaker 1: a lot of faces and you're never this quiet. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Because I'm trying to, you know, make the math math,
Speaker 2: and I'm right assumes point Olivia must have crossed Tarascio
Speaker 2: at some point something happened.
Speaker 4: I might be wrong. I could be wrong.
Speaker 3: I have a theory too that I'm wrong and it's bold,
Speaker 3: and I would get some Twitter hate for I know,
Speaker 3: but it's just my theory and if I'm wrong, I'm
Speaker 3: so wrong.
Speaker 5: I want to hear it Twitter.
Speaker 4: Okay, here's that theory.
Speaker 3: And this is based off of literally the not even
Speaker 3: full breadcrumb that Nuricius gave, because we all know Nurice gave.
Speaker 4: It's no real quick right.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 1: Just I know this is literally so it could be.
Speaker 3: Wildly off, and it's it is not a reflection of
Speaker 3: my thoughts on anyone.
Speaker 1: It's just what I have to make up off of
Speaker 1: what little I have.
Speaker 3: Okay, So my theory is that now, I know we've
Speaker 3: asked Olivia about this before on the podcast, and I
Speaker 3: know that they were just buddies, but my thoughts are
Speaker 3: deep down somewhere, maybe in a back door, hidden in
Speaker 3: a basement cellar, underneath the dirt.
Speaker 1: There was a little bit a feeling from Olivia towards Arasio.
Speaker 3: They're both beautiful people, right and like French, and they're young,
Speaker 3: same eight like you know, and that's normal, and even
Speaker 3: though they were just friends that there.
Speaker 1: Were still at least on once at least a little
Speaker 1: bit of that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then but because Rassio is slow moving and pretty
Speaker 3: chill for the most part, as we start to see
Speaker 3: in this episode, she maybe was happy with just the friendship. Well,
Speaker 3: then Arasio makes moves and shows real interest and kind
Speaker 3: of like it was pursuing someone else. And I think
Speaker 3: it may be brought up that those feelings that were
Speaker 3: down in the basement cellar around the corner, underneath some dirt,
Speaker 3: and I think it may have affected whatever moves she
Speaker 3: made in the game or things she did, whether it
Speaker 3: was a crossing Haracio crossing Nuris or both, I think
Speaker 3: or I wonder if that was affected by some feelings
Speaker 3: she may have had that she realizes can't happen now
Speaker 3: because he's really invested in Nuris.
Speaker 5: I will say, like, everything that you just said, all
Speaker 5: that crossed my mind one thousand percent, and it's still
Speaker 5: actually probably one of the bigger questions I have, because
Speaker 5: I feel like, I mean, I completely agree. I think
Speaker 5: a lot of the reasons why certain things happened I
Speaker 5: have no real answers to. And I think that after
Speaker 5: speaking to certain people learn even just like giving my
Speaker 5: thought process about everything that happened, that's everyone's perception. Everyone's
Speaker 5: perception is like, maybe she did actually have feelings for him,
Speaker 5: maybe there was actually something more there from her side.
Speaker 5: But I will say that once I'm a very great communicator,
Speaker 5: especially my friendships. I will say even in this episode,
Speaker 5: this specific episode, they show us in the pool at
Speaker 5: one point, obviously, and they show us talking and Melissa's
Speaker 5: there That same exact day, I pulled Olivia aside as
Speaker 5: we were in the pool, and I had that conversation
Speaker 5: with her because I was like, hey, like, as someone
Speaker 5: who is your best friend and you're also best friends
Speaker 5: with Rosco, I just want to make sure that there
Speaker 5: was never any type of anything there, you know, where
Speaker 5: I'm slightly stepping on your toes upsetting you not being
Speaker 5: a good friend. And she reassured me that that wasn't
Speaker 5: the case. She was a great friend in that moment,
Speaker 5: you know, was like here, I'm happy for you guys,
Speaker 5: But I don't know. Now, looking back at everything, I
Speaker 5: think that that might have been something that was a
Speaker 5: bit underlying, but I guess I don't. I won't really know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna say I get paid a lot
Speaker 3: of money to analyze people's relationships. That's my other job,
Speaker 3: as some of y'all know, and I just sounds and
Speaker 3: seems and then you saying that you guys were like
Speaker 3: basically calling each o their best friends at a point
Speaker 3: seems significant. But when it plays out, I'm excited to
Speaker 3: see see what more of it.
Speaker 1: But speaking of that.
Speaker 3: Time in the pool, let's get into this week's episode,
Speaker 3: and actually even before we get into this week's episode,
Speaker 3: let's go back to last week's episode session Jordan, okay,
Speaker 3: when we know, not the Toork session, when we had Jordan,
Speaker 3: when we had Jordan B Jordan, all right, when we
Speaker 3: had Jordan b himself and just crush it. What was
Speaker 3: your thought when you saw him come out into that
Speaker 3: you know, what was the energy and the bible like
Speaker 3: in the house when you guys went back in after Jordan.
Speaker 4: Just don't Jordan, let's not pass by that. It was Jordan's.
Speaker 5: Exactly honestly watching him, watching him, watching him come out.
Speaker 5: It was such an iconic moment. I don't know, I
Speaker 5: still feel like sometimes as I'm in the moment, I'm
Speaker 5: still like that fan that's watching from my house. So
Speaker 5: watching him come out, I was like just like freaking out.
Speaker 5: I was super excited because I knew, oh, now it
Speaker 5: doesn't matter who goes down, they're going home. And so
Speaker 5: we were super happy about that because obviously we really
Speaker 5: wanted to get one of the UK guys out. And
Speaker 5: so you guys.
Speaker 3: Were like losing money, like you guys were okay with
Speaker 3: losing a person each time, even if it meant losing
Speaker 3: ten k each time.
Speaker 5: To be honest, yes, every time we had I think
Speaker 5: we had a mission of just, honestly just trying to
Speaker 5: keep our American alliance together, dwindle the numbers for everybody else,
Speaker 5: and if that meant losing ten k, then we lost
Speaker 5: ten k. We also are hopeful in this moment that
Speaker 5: there's possibly going to be a chance to win more
Speaker 5: money down the line, so we're not We're not really
Speaker 5: scared of losing ten k if that means, you know,
Speaker 5: we'd get one of the bets to do our dirty
Speaker 5: work and get them out of the house.
Speaker 1: Was that your first time seeing Jordan since y'all.
Speaker 4: That noodle?
Speaker 5: Jordan and I were actually really good friends after season
Speaker 5: thirty eight. We hung out countless yeah, countless amount of times,
Speaker 5: literally straight platonic, like never hooking.
Speaker 1: Up, like not even one date.
Speaker 5: We we did go out on a date, but I
Speaker 5: will say at that point it was more of a
Speaker 5: friendship to be honest, Like when we got out of
Speaker 5: the house, me and him had a talk and decided like, no,
Speaker 5: we are just friends. I realized in that moment, I
Speaker 5: was like, I have a lot of things that I
Speaker 5: need to work on myself, and I wasn't ready for
Speaker 5: even like the talking stage nothing. I was like not
Speaker 5: just to stay away from it all. And then, like
Speaker 5: I said, we continue being friends. I would be there
Speaker 5: with him, like as he'd hook up with other girls.
Speaker 5: It was like straightways, yeah, wait, like we would go
Speaker 5: out to the clubs that like he would be macking
Speaker 5: it with other girls and I'm like, yeah, I get it,
Speaker 5: you know what i mean, strip on it.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 5: And then right before I went to the film thirty nine,
Speaker 5: literally about a week before, he unfollowed me on Instagram.
Speaker 5: Still don't know what I possibly did to him to
Speaker 5: get the un follow So we are currently not friends apparently.
Speaker 5: So when he first came into the house, I'm seeing
Speaker 5: him come out, I'm excited because I'm like, well it's Jordan.
Speaker 5: I still have a lot of love for him, and
Speaker 5: obviously we want him to get people out. But then
Speaker 5: I'm like, motherfuck are you and followed me for no reason?
Speaker 5: And we were friends, so yeah, right now, no friendship,
Speaker 5: no nothing aside from yeah that's that's how did.
Speaker 1: You know he han followed you? Like how did you
Speaker 1: just notice that?
Speaker 5: Off the because like I said, we're friends. So he
Speaker 5: had posted a story, so I remember replying back to
Speaker 5: his story saying something like it was something about his
Speaker 5: NASCAR stuff that he's been doing the racing, and I
Speaker 5: remember saying like a concrats, like you're so like this
Speaker 5: is so dope, so up your alley something like that,
Speaker 5: and I got no reply for like days, so I
Speaker 5: thought that was weird. So when I went to the
Speaker 5: Instagram to see if he ever saw the message, it
Speaker 5: was never read. And then I was like, can follow me?
Speaker 5: And then I check it said on following us, So
Speaker 5: he purposely didn't open my message. Okay, that's from your friends.
Speaker 5: So I really don't know what I did to get
Speaker 5: the unfollow But he's also in a relationship now, so
Speaker 5: maybe that had something to do with it. So if
Speaker 5: they had to do with, you know, him respecting the
Speaker 5: girlfriend that he has, now I completely understand. I completely
Speaker 5: get it.
Speaker 1: A little insecurity then okay, yeah, well let's.
Speaker 2: Talk about the relationship that actually matters, because we get
Speaker 2: into this day with you and you.
Speaker 4: Mad girl, you and your man.
Speaker 5: Okay, watch the entire episode.
Speaker 1: I literally got blessing right now.
Speaker 2: I mean hard, I mean she's read.
Speaker 5: I feel the exactly like watching it back. I was like,
Speaker 5: I think it's crazy that I'll feel that exact same way.
Speaker 5: I still feel like a little girl. I feel like
Speaker 5: it's my first crush ever, and it's just yeah, it's
Speaker 5: it's insane as wild.
Speaker 2: What is it about him other than his looks because he.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Honestly, I think it's really just his personality,
Speaker 6: Like I'm his actual friend as well, and I just
Speaker 6: like the way that he carries himself.
Speaker 5: I also felt like I'm seeing a different right now
Speaker 5: in the show, Like I'm seeing a different side of
Speaker 5: him that I had never seen before. We were friends
Speaker 5: last season, but he was still very quiet, reserved, didn't
Speaker 5: get to see too much of his personality then this
Speaker 5: time around, now that we have more of a friendship,
Speaker 5: Like I'm getting to see his sense of humor where
Speaker 5: most people don't get to see that, and so I'm
Speaker 5: seeing the sense of humor. I'm seeing how good of
Speaker 5: a friend he was to me, gave me great advice,
Speaker 5: he was someone that I was constantly. I was constantly
Speaker 5: going to talk to him in Kyland about anything and everything.
Speaker 5: And so them always being there for me, especially Orosco
Speaker 5: always being there for me. He was I just naturally
Speaker 5: became super comfortable around him, and then the conversations would
Speaker 5: get deeper. So now I'm knowing him a bit more
Speaker 5: deeper and knowing more but his family, knowing by his upbringing,
Speaker 5: knowing why he is the way that he is in
Speaker 5: the house because he's not someone that's very easy and
Speaker 5: making friendships or being you know himself. Really, I feel
Speaker 5: like he's super shy, and I don't know. I felt
Speaker 5: like just because I was seeing a different side of him,
Speaker 5: he was opening up more. I was like, Oh, who.
Speaker 1: Is who is this guy?
Speaker 5: Like this is not someone I've ever seen?
Speaker 1: Who were the first move? Like who was the first
Speaker 1: one to hint?
Speaker 3: Well, actually, let's back up, before you guys were in
Speaker 3: the house this time, did either one of you ever
Speaker 3: like kind of test the waters or just like even
Speaker 3: throw it out there to like, because obviously you guys
Speaker 3: are beautiful people, you've done the show together. You both
Speaker 3: were single at certain points, so like, prior to come
Speaker 3: to the house, was it ever even some did even
Speaker 3: anybody say anything to you being like, oh you two
Speaker 3: should date?
Speaker 5: So no one ever told me anything but me and
Speaker 5: him were very flirty on Instagram for coming up, like
Speaker 5: like this whole time, Like he'd reply back to my
Speaker 5: stories and like send hard eyes. And we have a
Speaker 5: song that we would always be like, oh, it's our
Speaker 5: song because we danced to it last season, and so
Speaker 5: whenever that song would come on in the cars, and
Speaker 5: then like he would send me a video of himself
Speaker 5: like singing it, send it to me, and like little
Speaker 5: things like that would happen.
Speaker 1: Playing the Long Game.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, playing the Long Games. You're like, this
Speaker 3: is new.
Speaker 1: I was like, nah, I've been playing this out a while.
Speaker 5: Exactly. So it was just and then, like I said,
Speaker 5: so now, being in the house in that environment, I
Speaker 5: didn't actually find this out till like we got out
Speaker 5: of the house. We're talking and you know, just re
Speaker 5: talking about everything. But I was crushing on him for
Speaker 5: a while, and I told my roommates who and who.
Speaker 5: He was still there at the time. So I told
Speaker 5: you who he and Zaza and Olivia, And it was
Speaker 5: a whole thing of me being like I'm crushing on him.
Speaker 5: I don't know what to do. I'm not going to
Speaker 5: act on it because I'm not his cup of tea.
Speaker 5: But apparently they told him. I didn't not know that
Speaker 5: he told me this months ago. They told him. I
Speaker 5: don't know exactly who it was, but they told him like, hey,
Speaker 5: justin you know, Nuris has a crush on you. And
Speaker 5: that's what made him finally make a move on me,
Speaker 5: which then made me be like, wait, you're making a
Speaker 5: move on me. And so technically i'd say he made
Speaker 5: the first move. It wasn't me.
Speaker 1: You know what was the first move he made? Like,
Speaker 1: was it a kiss? Was it?
Speaker 5: Well, they didn't show us together last episode, right him? Okay,
Speaker 5: so they showed me okay, So that that's when it started.
Speaker 5: That day, Berna actually really liked Oraco. Actually a lot
Speaker 5: of girls like him, not gonna lie. Jess was sitting
Speaker 5: on him when he was she was there. Berna liked him.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think of who else. You know, everyone
Speaker 5: mention how him and who you were super close, like
Speaker 5: he was a hot commodity. But Berna really liked him,
Speaker 5: and so she kept giving him like lap dances on
Speaker 5: the bus Black dancers here and he me and Zaza
Speaker 5: looked at him at one point from the back of
Speaker 5: the bus and he's like this like kind of kind
Speaker 5: of getting away from her, and she's and she's getting
Speaker 5: closer to working. So now we go to the club
Speaker 5: and she's doing the same thing. She's just dancing on him,
Speaker 5: trying to like be just burna and he's looking terrified,
Speaker 5: like you can see it. And like I said, I'm
Speaker 5: his friend. Right at this point, I'm crushing but he
Speaker 5: doesn't know, at least from what I thought.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I go to save him.
Speaker 5: I go to save him. I'm like, hey, like whenever,
Speaker 5: we're just talking and all of a sudden, he grabs me,
Speaker 5: puts me on his lap. Oh I don't know where
Speaker 5: mind you, he's over here terrified of her giving him
Speaker 5: a dance. So I'm like, who the heck is He
Speaker 5: puts me on his lap, on his lap, and he's
Speaker 5: like and I'm just looking literally I'm not jaw dropped
Speaker 5: him like, and I was like I look around. I said, well,
Speaker 5: I'm here now, and then he looks at me and
Speaker 5: he was like, oh, are you seeing somebody like outside
Speaker 5: of here? And I was like no. He's like, oh,
Speaker 5: we If I would have known that, I would have
Speaker 5: kissed you. I was literally like straight up was looking around,
Speaker 5: like we're the cameras right now, the camera, and I
Speaker 5: was like, are you kidding me, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm serious. I was like, I'll see who are you? Like,
Speaker 5: what do you mean you would have kissed me? Like
Speaker 5: it was just so strange, But yeah it was him
Speaker 5: in for sure.
Speaker 2: That you brought up Hue because the streets was trying
Speaker 2: to say that has she not gotten sent home, then
Speaker 2: it would you know you this would have never happened.
Speaker 2: So I would like to make sure that everybody understands
Speaker 2: Nurice is clarified.
Speaker 4: She was helping her get the man.
Speaker 5: So let's I mean who he had a boyfriend. But
Speaker 5: I will say, I will say, and I'm wich Odosia
Speaker 5: was here because I would have said it right here.
Speaker 5: I will say something in me still somewhat tells me
Speaker 5: the same thing. She had a boyfriend, so like she
Speaker 5: was she knew like no, but I think mean once
Speaker 5: again as his friend. At the beginning, I always thought
Speaker 5: that a girl like who who he was more or
Speaker 5: his speed than someone like.
Speaker 1: Why do you say that?
Speaker 3: Because you said that when you when you say someone
Speaker 3: like you or what you didn't think you were?
Speaker 1: What about it? Did you think?
Speaker 5: Like I just I don't know. I feel like the
Speaker 5: past the past year I was working on myself a
Speaker 5: lot because of just not liking certain things that I
Speaker 5: had been doing. And so me, who's a bit more
Speaker 5: of a wild card and someone who, you know, I
Speaker 5: just lived my life and I'm not scared to do
Speaker 5: that and I'm just me. I'm a free spirit. And
Speaker 5: then there's someone like Gascio who's super like reserved and
Speaker 5: super quiet and shy, and she kind of was more
Speaker 5: on like the innocent side ye with him, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. Like everyone was like, if you ask anybody,
Speaker 5: asked the entire cast, and did you ask anybody, Oh,
Speaker 5: what is your perception of a who either like she
Speaker 5: was the nicest girl?
Speaker 1: She really she's so sweet, sweetish.
Speaker 5: Everybody would say that. And so when you think about Oascio,
Speaker 5: who's someone who's so quiet and so nice, I feel
Speaker 5: like the world would more or so see him with
Speaker 5: someone like her because she is that she's.
Speaker 1: More like that.
Speaker 3: I feel like with abs like that, it says that
Speaker 3: somewhere deep down inside is a man who will get
Speaker 3: this woman's.
Speaker 1: Waist and slamp her on his let Like I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a little spice. The two of
Speaker 1: you guys together just made so much sense. But did
Speaker 1: you ever thought you would bring it out?
Speaker 5: I love and I love that I agree.
Speaker 1: Do you guys? Did you have thoughts though? As you like?
Speaker 3: I know he was already your close friend, but we
Speaker 3: see that sometimes getting in a relationship in a house.
Speaker 3: You sort of experienced it the last time you're on,
Speaker 3: even though it wasn't.
Speaker 1: A full flexed relationship.
Speaker 3: But they're ripple effects, right of, like you becoming romantically
Speaker 3: involved with someone.
Speaker 1: If people don't like them, it just becomes this whole mess.
Speaker 3: Did you have any reservations around that or did you
Speaker 3: guys discuss kind of like how to separate the game
Speaker 3: or what happens if people turn on you because of that?
Speaker 5: We really didn't, to be honest, I thought of anything.
Speaker 5: I had it easier in a sense because what I
Speaker 5: feel was a ready a part of my alliance, right.
Speaker 5: I was always gonna protect me. He was always gonna
Speaker 5: protect me, so nothing really had to change, And my
Speaker 5: alliance was also already protecting him. So I was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: if people don't like him and don't want to protect him,
Speaker 5: most likely they were already were. Yeah, they already weren't.
Speaker 5: So for me, I was like, all right, I got
Speaker 5: the best of both worlds. At least for me, I
Speaker 5: wasn't dealing with like what Michelle and Kalum are dealing with,
Speaker 5: where at one point we're gonna have to throw Calum
Speaker 5: in because he is a part of the UK and internationals,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Same thing with Mariah and James.
Speaker 5: We're gonna have to always get in some type of
Speaker 5: argument because or even Kylin and Melissa. We have all
Speaker 5: these people in relationships with people that are on the
Speaker 5: opposite ends, and I'm like, at what point it's gonna
Speaker 5: get sticky? But for me, I was thinking to myself, like, well,
Speaker 5: everyone's already protecting us both, like you know, our alliance
Speaker 5: were already protecting each other, So it makes no difference.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about these messy couples that you just brought up.
Speaker 3: Let's there's some mess going on in the house for sure. Okay,
Speaker 3: so let's start with Callum and Michelle. Did you have
Speaker 3: any inkling girl.
Speaker 1: Broprin outside the house?
Speaker 5: No, honestly, no, I should I We had no idea.
Speaker 5: But do you see the Callum looks. We should have known.
Speaker 1: We should have known, like what was like a playboy?
Speaker 5: He looks like a fuck boy, like one thousand percent.
Speaker 5: You look at him and you're like he's cheating on
Speaker 5: you for sure, Like there's there's no way. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: like I love I love Callum. But as soon as
Speaker 5: I got there, I just think back, Like I said,
Speaker 5: I had been doing so much like work on myself,
Speaker 5: where I was like, this was me, my dumb's my
Speaker 5: dumb self. I would have been trying to shoot my
Speaker 5: shot because he physically looks good. But I was like,
Speaker 5: oh yeah no. I was like, thank god, I've worked
Speaker 5: on myself and it's a lot more than just look
Speaker 5: for now, because yeah, no, yeah, he was definitely a
Speaker 5: fuck boy. We didn't know he really truly seemed like
Speaker 5: he was head over heels uh with Michelle, like over
Speaker 5: Michelle the entire time, Like watching the first episod what
Speaker 5: It's seen that he had a girl that he called
Speaker 5: He said, I.
Speaker 4: Love you too.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I am texted Michelle in the moment because I
Speaker 5: was like, wait, he had a girl friend?
Speaker 1: What do you say?
Speaker 5: He explained He said that apparently the girl was someone
Speaker 5: that he was possibly seeing beforehand. He was like, it's
Speaker 5: not what it seems, and I was like, you told
Speaker 5: her you love exactly what it seems right. Me and
Speaker 5: him had that kind of a friendship where we could
Speaker 5: give each other shit. So I was like, no, you
Speaker 5: were in the wrong. And I don't think he sees
Speaker 5: that as that. But I know now that he's in
Speaker 5: a relationship, but I don't know if it's with the
Speaker 5: same girl from the show or not.
Speaker 3: So wild absolutely wild, Okay, so we also have to
Speaker 3: track on another messy couple. And I will say, so,
Speaker 3: we do a thing on the podcast here where we
Speaker 3: do like gold stars and we do timeouts each week, right,
Speaker 3: So the gold stars like someone or something that happened
Speaker 3: the week that we just loved or thought was like amazing,
Speaker 3: and then time out would be like someone or something
Speaker 3: that happened in the game that we were just like, ah,
Speaker 3: that's not good, and he can bury. Sometimes people are
Speaker 3: nominated for both a gold Star and a timeout in
Speaker 3: the same week, like if they did one thing another
Speaker 3: thing that were like that was messy as hell or
Speaker 3: whatever else. I I don't remember if you won now
Speaker 3: because my brain holds onto no information, but I definitely
Speaker 3: nominated you and the advice you gave Mariah for time out.
Speaker 5: On Twitter, being like Devin yeah, so look, I don't.
Speaker 3: I am always a I am always a you know
Speaker 3: where I stand. By the way, it's never any time
Speaker 3: I ever give feedback on anyone. It's literally about that
Speaker 3: moment in the house as we analyze it. Then it's
Speaker 3: never about the person as a whole. Some of these
Speaker 3: people I love as people, but will do dumb things
Speaker 3: and things. But we you talk about this because I
Speaker 3: said it was complete garbage advicenaries. But I also in
Speaker 3: talking to you now and also even hearing how you
Speaker 3: say that you've worked on yourself so much, so aside
Speaker 3: from the fact of what the messiness that Bananas has
Speaker 3: also done, which we will address later.
Speaker 4: Honey, Yeah, yeah, I was gonna text, yeah we are.
Speaker 1: We will address that later.
Speaker 3: But you were telling so Mariah was clearly conflu on
Speaker 3: her own right, Like clearly seemed to be like she
Speaker 3: had mixed emotions and she was just like, I just
Speaker 3: feel bad, which I think is probably a normal empathetic response,
Speaker 3: whether bananas is garbage or not, is just like, you know,
Speaker 3: you feel bad if there was someone you sort of
Speaker 3: cared about and you feel like you might be hurting
Speaker 3: those right and you and Thereice were like girl, don't
Speaker 3: feel bad bad, don't worry, And I'm like nourse like
Speaker 3: like's I understand you saying you see her happy, but
Speaker 3: also like it's not bad to feel bad or not
Speaker 3: want to pay.
Speaker 5: So I get that part I understood. I guess that
Speaker 5: the wording comes off bad by me saying Okay, don't
Speaker 5: worry about it or don't be upset. But I'm actually
Speaker 5: like Mariah's friend, like outside of the game. So for
Speaker 5: the past however long it's been since Rider dies and
Speaker 5: also during Writer dies, I feel like I'm one of
Speaker 5: the few people who actually experienced her with bananas and
Speaker 5: then knows what their relationship was like outside of the
Speaker 5: house and how things were going and just all them yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: the people, the stuff that people don't actually know. So
Speaker 5: for me, the reason why I kept telling her not
Speaker 5: necessarily don't feel bad, because obviously, naturally you're gonna feel
Speaker 5: bad when you feel like you're doing something sneaky to someone,
Speaker 5: But it was more so like do you considering like
Speaker 5: she knew that, like I could. I think I had
Speaker 5: said something like if it's not at least you know,
Speaker 5: if it's if it's not James, it's definitely not Banana's.
Speaker 1: Right, Like you say that. Yeah, Maria and I had.
Speaker 5: Already talked for so long and she had already told me,
Speaker 5: like it was something consistently I would be like, so,
Speaker 5: are you guys dating yet? Are you official yet? Are
Speaker 5: you official yet? Are you official yet? And it was
Speaker 5: a consistent thing from me asking her, And she was.
Speaker 3: Always likes about James, this is about y okay.
Speaker 5: Yes, and so she was always like, oh, yeah, things
Speaker 5: are going great, but we're like, I'm never gonna git him.
Speaker 5: We're not exclusive, this is not my boyfriend. He's probably
Speaker 5: not going to be my boyfriend. And it was always
Speaker 5: kind of like that, but it was always like, I
Speaker 5: really enjoy his vibe. I've been there, Like I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm almost twenty nine, Like I think we've all been
Speaker 5: there where you have something super casual or at least
Speaker 5: you feel like it's casual or it's not like a
Speaker 5: super serious relationship. So that's kind of how I was
Speaker 5: seeing that. And then I'm seeing her just be a
Speaker 5: whole different version of herself around James and seeing how
Speaker 5: happy she was, so for me, I mean, selfishly, I
Speaker 5: just wanted her to put those feelings above her feelings
Speaker 5: for feeling like, Oh, I'm hurting Banana so much, even
Speaker 5: though I don't like him, even though I don't want
Speaker 5: a relationship from him, I'm hurting him so much, and
Speaker 5: I'm going to put my happiness to the back burner
Speaker 5: and not act on what I want to act on
Speaker 5: because I'm gonna come off like a shitty person on TV.
Speaker 5: That's what that was. I think that was coming off.
Speaker 5: And I was like, no, like, do you be happy?
Speaker 5: Put yourself first? Like for the first time you met
Speaker 5: someone that brought you out of your comfort zone, someone
Speaker 5: that makes you happy, you're literally constantly dying. They were
Speaker 5: dying laughing twenty four to seven in the house, Like
Speaker 5: it was just a different vibe, And I just wanted
Speaker 5: her to, yeah, just do whatever made her heart happy
Speaker 5: without her feeling bad for this exact moment, Like now
Speaker 5: watching it back on TV and seeing what the people
Speaker 5: who know nothing about her, know nothing about her relationship
Speaker 5: with Bananas or anything about just anything in general, They're
Speaker 5: gonna put their two cents in, And then you didn't
Speaker 5: act on it. Why, because you care about what the
Speaker 5: fans are gonna say, like you. I think that was
Speaker 5: more so.
Speaker 1: That's why she was crying. Do you think that too.
Speaker 3: She's more concerned about how the fans would view it
Speaker 3: than actually like hurting it.
Speaker 5: I think a little bit of I think a little
Speaker 5: bit of it all. I think, you know, Mariah is
Speaker 5: still kind of new to this whole TV world where
Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of things do are gonna
Speaker 5: bother her, and there's a lot of thoughts are gonna
Speaker 5: come to your mind before you actually do things. I
Speaker 5: don't know, Yeah, I act on it like they're gonna
Speaker 5: be like, oh shit, there's gonna be on TV. There's
Speaker 5: gonna be this. I think it was kind of those
Speaker 5: thoughts were coming through coming to her mind, and that's
Speaker 5: the only reason why I, like I said, I was like,
Speaker 5: I was trying to be a good friend. Don't like
Speaker 5: just just go for it, just do whatever makes you happy.
Speaker 5: And you know, and like you said before, I mean,
Speaker 5: I dude like Bananas, but Karma's a bitch like that's
Speaker 5: and that's just that's just the reality of it. Like
Speaker 5: he is. I really too. I truly do love Banana's
Speaker 5: like I think he's a great guy. But at the
Speaker 5: same time, I'm like, you've done things to her people
Speaker 5: in the past, you've done basically exactly what Mariah has
Speaker 5: done before, You've taken other people's girlfriends.
Speaker 1: You don't how sometimes it's a good show, by the way.
Speaker 5: And mind you House of Villains. Yes, before, so.
Speaker 1: That is where I will grow that. Yes, Bananas was
Speaker 1: acting a fool.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you are over here flirting with this other girl,
Speaker 5: and now Mariah does the same thing back on thirty nine,
Speaker 5: and now she's the villain. Now she is the one
Speaker 5: that's using him, and you know, the cloud chaser, which
Speaker 5: I think is completely untrue. And it's not fair for
Speaker 5: him to say that because he was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: she's a cloud chaser. He just posted that the other day,
Speaker 5: And I'm like, then, why are you so hurt if
Speaker 5: she was apparently.
Speaker 3: I think you like, I will say this and when
Speaker 3: for all those people coming in my tweets and my dms,
Speaker 3: know by the way, that I will never block you.
Speaker 3: I will just mute you, so you won't get the
Speaker 3: satisfaction of being blocked. So just know that that's ever
Speaker 3: I don't because people were blocked like a bad Jasoner.
Speaker 3: I'm not giving you a bad Yeah, I'm not giving
Speaker 3: you a trophy. Ghost down, go participate in something else.
Speaker 1: I will never block you. I will just meet you.
Speaker 1: But the reason why.
Speaker 3: For those who listen to previous episodes and I was
Speaker 3: hard is because the time he and I chat about it,
Speaker 3: I do think there was a time he actually genuinely
Speaker 3: cared for Riot. I will say that it doesn't excuse
Speaker 3: fuck boy behavior, but I really do believe he cared
Speaker 3: for her. And this was off camera, offline, off whatever.
Speaker 5: I completely agree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he really cared for He didn't go
Speaker 3: about it the right way. And I don't know, you know,
Speaker 3: Nurice more of the dynamics than I do because I
Speaker 3: don't talk to either of them regularly, But I think
Speaker 3: that like, yeah, at the end of the day, there
Speaker 3: is no so I think that's why he's so hurt
Speaker 3: posting what he's posting. But like, you got to own
Speaker 3: up to your own stuff, right, Like there is no
Speaker 3: excuse of f boy behavior, and like you gotta you
Speaker 3: were just as you know to no better.
Speaker 5: To do that. It just I mean, it sucks. It's
Speaker 5: it's a very shitty situation because like being the friend
Speaker 5: that knows so much of the information of something that
Speaker 5: goes on between them, it was like you also know,
Speaker 5: like I also do, can't take away from the fact
Speaker 5: that Bananas also is really good to Mariah, Like he
Speaker 5: he was very very good and like that's to me honestly,
Speaker 5: like watching the way that he treated her on ruddered
Speaker 5: eyes or even afterwards kind of what made my perception
Speaker 5: of him what it is. Now why I think that
Speaker 5: Bananas is such a great guy, it's because of the
Speaker 5: way that he treated Mariah, and it's it's it's wild,
Speaker 5: you know, like it's for.
Speaker 1: The person who said I was a clown for defending Bananas.
Speaker 1: There you go. See even Maurice.
Speaker 2: Said, on both sides, the streets is hot, but the
Speaker 2: podcast is hotter. Now we need to take a quick break,
Speaker 2: but we will be right back after this.
Speaker 3: Can you talk about the moment because you mentioned you
Speaker 3: reference a lot of times that you're working on your
Speaker 3: anger and then we see you and Melissa get into
Speaker 3: it and you seem to handle it really well. Can
Speaker 3: you walk us through that moment when you were Melissa
Speaker 3: could work.
Speaker 5: They're proud of myself, the proud maybe I really Oh,
Speaker 5: I normally literally like zero to one hundred see red,
Speaker 5: and I instantly like I had to learn to knock
Speaker 5: on my hands on people because it was bad, but
Speaker 5: in that moment, it was it was a conversation that
Speaker 5: I want to have because I was like, man, I
Speaker 5: hated the way that me and Melissa went through things
Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, it was all
Speaker 5: supposed to be a game. It was never supposed to
Speaker 5: be personal until she put her hands on me or
Speaker 5: her feet on me. So I wanted to talk to her.
Speaker 5: The conversation was going good at the beginning, and then
Speaker 5: she just kept I don't know what the word would be.
Speaker 5: I guess the word condescending, Like you know when you're like, oh,
Speaker 5: are passive aggressive? You know when you say things with
Speaker 5: a fucking smile on your face? Oh? That she gets
Speaker 5: me more mad than that someone actually being aggressive towards me,
Speaker 5: because I'm like, don't fucking smile on my face while
Speaker 5: you're saying a smirky remark about me. So that's why
Speaker 5: things I think minor. Her conversation wasn't going well because
Speaker 5: even like little things where I was like or she
Speaker 5: was like oh yeah, I was like, oh my bad.
Speaker 5: If I wanted to hold you under the water. She
Speaker 5: kept telling me that I held out the water and
Speaker 5: I was like, I didn't hold you under the water,
Speaker 5: and she said, yes, you did. And I was like,
Speaker 5: if I wanted to hold you into the water, trust me,
Speaker 5: I would have. And she said, well, no, you wouldn't have.
Speaker 5: And I was like, so it was just the conversation
Speaker 5: was going nowhere but circles. We were getting nowhere. We
Speaker 5: weren't resolving anything. And at that point I could feel
Speaker 5: it in me, like I said, I know myself and
Speaker 5: I can tell what I'm like, Oh, yeah, probably if
Speaker 5: I stay here a minute longer, I'm just gonna end
Speaker 5: up backhanding somebody. And so I told myself in that moment,
Speaker 5: I was liked, no, what, I'm leaving the conversation, like
Speaker 5: I removed myself from the whole situation. I was like,
Speaker 5: that's what I'm done. I can't. I can't good on you?
Speaker 1: On you, yes, talk to what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Good on you because it wouldn't have been a push
Speaker 2: her and we'd have been fighting.
Speaker 4: Oh, we would have been fighting. So that that shows
Speaker 4: your growth.
Speaker 2: And I'm very, very proud of you to stand on
Speaker 2: it in that environment because I don't know, whatever it
Speaker 2: is something about the outside world. You can walk away
Speaker 2: like whatever, I'm not going with you can go home.
Speaker 2: You can't go home there because you are at my home.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You don't have to deal
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 2: So to still maintain your composure and say I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go I'm very very proud of you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm like, it's funny because I was getting a lot
Speaker 5: of like negative remarks about being mentioning the anger management
Speaker 5: and stuff, and I was like, I don't care what
Speaker 5: you guys think. At the end of the day, I
Speaker 5: actually had to be the one going to anger management
Speaker 5: twice a week, Like I was the one having to
Speaker 5: actually work on myself because I disgree. Like I said,
Speaker 5: this past year twenty twenty four, twenty twenty three, and
Speaker 5: twenty twenty two were probably such great years for me
Speaker 5: to like in the best and the worst ways, because
Speaker 5: I did so went through so much bad shit, but
Speaker 5: also learn so much about myself. And that was one
Speaker 5: of the big things for sure, Like I definitely needed
Speaker 5: to learn to work on my anger for sure.
Speaker 1: And that's great that you did the work.
Speaker 3: And also I think it's great you're talking about it
Speaker 3: because I think some people have the idea that I
Speaker 3: can figure it out on my own right or this
Speaker 3: is just me take it as it is, or like
Speaker 3: that's just how I am. And I think you serve
Speaker 3: as an example and that not only is it okay
Speaker 3: to be open about it, but like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: sometimes you do go outside of yourself to just get
Speaker 3: a different perspective that can be really valuable. Right, like
Speaker 3: that you controlling your anger is actually going to help
Speaker 3: propel you further and the things you want to do
Speaker 3: maybe even get you into this, you know, have be
Speaker 3: the stepping stone for this great relationship.
Speaker 1: That you're in or whatever else, like a lot.
Speaker 3: Of doors unlock when you step out of your own
Speaker 3: way or don't block your blessing.
Speaker 1: So I think it's a really.
Speaker 5: Great thing, even in the simplest way, in the simplest terms,
Speaker 5: like that example of me being at the bar arguing
Speaker 5: with Melissa old me a year or two ago. One
Speaker 5: hear I would have been kicked off the challenge, and
Speaker 5: it's something that I have always loved and have always
Speaker 5: wanted to do. And I would have, let you know,
Speaker 5: something as important for me as the challenge slip by,
Speaker 5: and I would have lost the opportunity because in that moment,
Speaker 5: I would have thought it was more important for me
Speaker 5: to prove myself and prove how strong I am and
Speaker 5: prove that I'm not someone to be messed with, and
Speaker 5: I would have put my hands on her, and I
Speaker 5: would have lost the opportunity and lost girl.
Speaker 3: See exactly, You know, everything happens for no because Hiroscio
Speaker 3: may be in a place where he's he's you mentioned
Speaker 3: thea before you felt like you weren't his type. But
Speaker 3: maybe he wasn't looking for he wasn't looking for toxic
Speaker 3: like and I don't. Obviously I'm not in the ins
Speaker 3: and outs of Roscio. But he may be at a
Speaker 3: growth level point where he's looking for something with like
Speaker 3: signs of growth, and that's clearly where you are and
Speaker 3: why you guys work so well. So he may have
Speaker 3: looked at him, you smacking the crap out of somebody
Speaker 3: and be like, I know, maybe, but here he was like,
Speaker 3: that's a grown woman.
Speaker 1: I like that, get on my lab.
Speaker 5: I like that. Him and him and Thailand, him and
Speaker 5: Kyland are like best friends.
Speaker 1: So what did that do?
Speaker 5: They're looking from like the opposite end of the bar.
Speaker 5: They're thinking like when you ask them about that situation.
Speaker 5: They were like they were saying that they were so
Speaker 5: happy on the other side, like, oh my god, look
Speaker 5: they're talking like things are couldn't they hear me be
Speaker 5: like no, I don't want to talk over we start
Speaker 5: arguing and yelling and they're like, shit, here we go,
Speaker 5: here we go. I'm serious.
Speaker 2: I want to shift gears a little bit because you
Speaker 2: guys gave me big brother vibes. And it could be
Speaker 2: the Survivor people, Michelle and Jay, but you guys get me,
Speaker 2: y'all give me big brother vibes. With this alliance, the
Speaker 2: Fantastic four y'all trance.
Speaker 5: Watching get Back, I was like, oh my god, the
Speaker 5: rest of the past are going to see this for
Speaker 5: the first time and be like, so, how.
Speaker 4: Did this come about? Who initiated this? How did this happen?
Speaker 5: This started before we even went into the house. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 5: so in episode one or I think in the launch special,
Speaker 5: they showed Jay coming to my house and that day
Speaker 5: was the day that kind of the Fantastic four ish
Speaker 5: alliance kind of started because he came over and he
Speaker 5: was like, by the way, I wasn't going to tell you,
Speaker 5: but my homeboy. A staff is officially on the cast
Speaker 5: as well, and I was like, oh awesome. He was like,
Speaker 5: just so you know, you know, I already told the
Speaker 5: soft that I'm going to have your back, so Astoff
Speaker 5: already decided he's going to have your back too, because
Speaker 5: if he's my number one and you're one of my
Speaker 5: number ones, then he has to protect you too. I
Speaker 5: was like, oh that perfect, Like I got another person
Speaker 5: protecting me without even having to try. Obviously, Michelle is
Speaker 5: Jay's ride or Die, So that kind of started like that.
Speaker 5: Once we got into the house, me and a soft talk,
Speaker 5: he actually told me he was like, by the way,
Speaker 5: my wife told me, aside from what Jay told me,
Speaker 5: my wife told me like you were the only girl
Speaker 5: that she got good vibes from. She looked at everybody's Instagram,
Speaker 5: she got good vibes from you, and she told me
Speaker 5: that out of all the girls, she told me to
Speaker 5: protect you. So I was like, yeah, so I got
Speaker 5: an ally without having to try. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: well thank you Jay. Michelle al Ride or Dies. So
Speaker 5: Aesoft's like, well, I don't have a number one girl,
Speaker 5: so you're my number one girl, and then we kind
Speaker 5: of then we all kind of would like we honestly,
Speaker 5: that was the one. No, we've met twice I think before,
Speaker 5: but we only met that one time. Like we would always,
Speaker 5: we wanted it to be a secret secret, so we
Speaker 5: in passing, like I barely ever talked to a soft ever,
Speaker 5: like it would be in passing. We look at each
Speaker 5: other like we were in the kitchen. He's like, you
Speaker 5: still got me. I'm like, yeah, you still got me.
Speaker 5: He's like yeah, I bet. And it was always like that.
Speaker 5: I just kept the pushing and it was never it
Speaker 5: was never a public thing. So that's watching it back today,
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, we successfully did that. Chocked.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I wonder if his wife gave him the heads up
Speaker 3: not to trust Corey. It doesn't seem like he did
Speaker 3: give him that. But Corey was just the one all
Speaker 3: over the place this season. When did you find out
Speaker 3: in the reas about the plant, like the sabotage and
Speaker 3: whose idea was it?
Speaker 1: The which sabotage in the in the Daily in this
Speaker 1: week's Daily.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so it was kind of well, I was
Speaker 5: definitely one of the more of the masterminds behind it.
Speaker 5: We you saw TJ was like, you guys are already
Speaker 5: basically already in Team six six seven, we all looked
Speaker 5: down the line and we're like, oh, so y'all put
Speaker 5: like they said, yeah, well all the big bodies together
Speaker 5: on one team and put all the smaller people aside. So
Speaker 5: at that point we instantly knew, like just the other
Speaker 5: two teams, we're like, oh, so this kind of we're
Speaker 5: gonna lose because they got all the weight, They got
Speaker 5: all the bigger people right now, So instantly we already knew, Okay,
Speaker 5: well that's that can't happen because they're gonna demolish us
Speaker 5: if we don't work together. And then on top of that, obviously,
Speaker 5: the night before when we had that fantastic core meeting,
Speaker 5: it was about four o'clock in the morning. We waited
Speaker 5: for every single person in the house to be asleep,
Speaker 5: like no one awake, everyone asleep, and that's when we
Speaker 5: decided we wanted to see Melissa. So now that we're
Speaker 5: split up into different teams, we kind of came back.
Speaker 5: You know, once we're gearing up and putting on like
Speaker 5: the helmets and everything else we're gearing up, we kind
Speaker 5: of looked at each other like we gotta we gotta
Speaker 5: work together. Jay was the only Jay Olivia and Mariah
Speaker 5: were on the other team, and so we told them like,
Speaker 5: you guys need to throw it somehow, you know, don't
Speaker 5: go don't go as hard, you know, and they were like, okay,
Speaker 5: that easy. And then so then we talked to the
Speaker 5: other team. We're like, okay, we actually my team was
Speaker 5: actually supposed to win, but we were like, it doesn't
Speaker 5: really matter as long as it's one of us two
Speaker 5: and not the other team. So we kind of it
Speaker 5: really was a setup from the night before, and then
Speaker 5: we got there and we saw the way that the teams,
Speaker 5: you know, were set up, and then that's kind of
Speaker 5: how we did it all. And like I said, we
Speaker 5: just had a plan of making sure we wanted to
Speaker 5: do We just we just wanted all the international people
Speaker 5: out and we were gonna make sure they put Big
Speaker 5: Team Melissa on the same team. It just made it
Speaker 5: really easy for us at that point, Okay, because.
Speaker 4: That was gonna be my question.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of friendships inside of this house, a
Speaker 2: lot of hairs, a lot of trios, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff going on with the friendship department inside of
Speaker 2: this house.
Speaker 4: And I wanted to know.
Speaker 2: What made Melissa and Big T number one of all
Speaker 2: of these friend groups.
Speaker 5: I think because they were the more vocal. It was
Speaker 5: like everyone both sides had uh do what you would say,
Speaker 5: I guess the leaders, so like the UK international side,
Speaker 5: I'd say, Big T and Melissa are definitely like their leaders,
Speaker 5: so it was easier to honestly, we we just wanted
Speaker 5: to split up Melissa in Big T too. I think
Speaker 5: we were trying to figure out if things would have
Speaker 5: gone easier if we didn't have them together, Like.
Speaker 1: Why did you feel like that was? Why did you
Speaker 1: because it seems like.
Speaker 3: The narrative is and correct me if I'm wrong, in
Speaker 3: the house is that they are weaker players, particularly Big Tea.
Speaker 3: It seems like that's what in interviews and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: It seems like that's kind of the consensus of the house.
Speaker 3: So I'm curious as to why then they seemed like
Speaker 3: like why everyone turns so much or keeping them? Yeah,
Speaker 3: like what was the thread of the two of them
Speaker 3: being together if they are the weaker players in the house.
Speaker 3: And we even see Michelle briefly in the Fantastic Four
Speaker 3: say oh, well, I'm listening to Melissa's point right for
Speaker 3: a brief second when Melissa is pitching like throwing in
Speaker 3: Raven instead because she's like, well, I want to see
Speaker 3: about the numbers because Big D's not a threat to me,
Speaker 3: so her saying in the house isn't really a big deal.
Speaker 3: So yeah, why is everyone so worried about this Melissa
Speaker 3: Big t connection if everyone simultaneously believes they're not actually
Speaker 3: much of a threat.
Speaker 5: I don't think see it's crazy because I know we
Speaker 5: see it now in like interviews, but I don't think
Speaker 5: that's really what it was in the moment. I don't
Speaker 5: think people really felt like Big Tea, and I would
Speaker 5: say more so it was more Big Tea than Melissa,
Speaker 5: because I never never heard anyone say, oh, Melissa's not
Speaker 5: a threat. If anything, people thought Melissa was a threat
Speaker 5: like percent, And honestly, it was just like I said,
Speaker 5: I think it really just stemmed from us wanting to
Speaker 5: get rid of all the international numbers first, and like
Speaker 5: I said, they were just the bigger threats. Also for
Speaker 5: me personally, I guess I can't speak for everybody else,
Speaker 5: but Big Tea being the only person on the season
Speaker 5: that had been on I think that was her fifth season,
Speaker 5: so technically she's the vet of the house right, Like,
Speaker 5: to me, you're the vet of the house, you have
Speaker 5: the most knowledge, you have the most experienced, so you
Speaker 5: kind of have to leave. Melissa is now second to that,
Speaker 5: so Melissa's there. And also there was a lot of
Speaker 5: arguments and so much drama constantly going on in the house,
Speaker 5: and it was, yeah, it was it was just like
Speaker 5: always like oh he said, she said, he's And it
Speaker 5: was always, always, always, always they were trying to group me,
Speaker 5: Olivia and Raven to everything, and then Melissa and Big
Speaker 5: t were being grouped for everything. So even if the
Speaker 5: Tea wasn't true, it was always like, oh, the UK girls,
Speaker 5: or if they said the American girls, they're talking about me,
Speaker 5: Raven and Olivia, they're talking about the UK girls. They're
Speaker 5: talking about Melissa and Big Tea. So it was always like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: so by the way, uh blah blah blah, this one
Speaker 5: doesn't like you. Oh who said that? Oh the American girls.
Speaker 5: Oh so now automatically, if it was the American girls,
Speaker 5: it was always nerdy Silivia and Raven and there would
Speaker 5: be things that never even happened. So there was always
Speaker 5: just so much random drama going on in the house
Speaker 5: that we also felt like, Okay, well, I guess if
Speaker 5: we split up Melissa and Big Tea, maybe some of
Speaker 5: the drama won't be happening.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 4: That makes them Yeah, get us?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you slid something in there earlier when we asked
Speaker 3: when I asked, you know, when did you find out
Speaker 3: about the sabotage response, I feel like a normal response
Speaker 3: would have been like, oh, you mean with Melissa, but
Speaker 3: your response was, oh, which sabotage? So please do tell
Speaker 3: Narise what other sabotage may we have missed up into
Speaker 3: this point, or is there one we should keep an
Speaker 3: eye out for, uh that's coming up, because there obviously
Speaker 3: was more than one sabotage, more than one.
Speaker 5: I feel like we always the American Alliance was always
Speaker 5: up to something, and also we were never on the
Speaker 5: same page because there were so many of us on
Speaker 5: in one alliance that we would have so many different
Speaker 5: low key plans, and then you never really knew which
Speaker 5: plan was gonna happen, but you always knew it was
Speaker 5: gonna be one of them and it was gonna work out.
Speaker 5: I feel like we were at this point definitely doing
Speaker 5: a good job of making sure that things maybe didn't
Speaker 5: look like they were set up to happen the exact
Speaker 5: same way that they happened. Like in tonight's episode, everything
Speaker 5: happened the exact way that we knew. Just like I'm
Speaker 5: watching it back and I'm watching them throw my name.
Speaker 5: I was shocked seeing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how you make like a full yes?
Speaker 3: Were you gitting to yourself when you saw Melissa make
Speaker 3: a foo when you're watching the episode, a full blown.
Speaker 1: Run to try and get you.
Speaker 5: It's funny because they don't show it, but every person
Speaker 5: that they went up to to be like, hey, nurse
Speaker 5: nur Narissa, Nurisa Raven, Nurisa Raven. Every single person came
Speaker 5: up to me and said, like literally laughing, like hah,
Speaker 5: she just said your name, and like every even the
Speaker 5: UK people that she was saying it too, Like she
Speaker 5: was going up to people and like yeah, Nuris and
Speaker 5: everyone's coming up to me like yeah, we told her
Speaker 5: yeah possibly, but every mine I was never even an
Speaker 5: option and they were. And I just think it's funny that,
Speaker 5: Like I said, watching it back, she's like, oh, big
Speaker 5: T decided to see they're gonna be Nurisa or Raven,
Speaker 5: And I was like, it was never ever even to
Speaker 5: be because everyone we were all so like here with
Speaker 5: it that it was never gonna be It was never
Speaker 5: gonna be me. It was always we were always trying
Speaker 5: to make Melissa Big Tea. Even they don't show like
Speaker 5: a conversation, but like me and Raven are getting super
Speaker 5: close at this point, I actually consider Raven more of
Speaker 5: like a friend. We're actually building a friendship at that point.
Speaker 3: So oh yeah.
Speaker 5: So right now. More specifically in that moment too, was
Speaker 5: really when we were because now we're roommates and we're
Speaker 5: actually building a friendship. So I was even more adamant
Speaker 5: about like absolutely not Raving, Like right now, we're trying
Speaker 5: to build a friendship. She's an ally for us. She's
Speaker 5: the rider diye girl. Like, no, there's no way it's
Speaker 5: gonna be uh Melissa and Raven down there. We always
Speaker 5: knew it was gonna be Big Tea. Even though we
Speaker 5: all went into the nominations and obviously we all said
Speaker 5: nice things that are true about Big Ta. We love her,
Speaker 5: she actually is super kind. But we were like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I gotta.
Speaker 4: Go, yeah, yeah, I want to give a shout out
Speaker 4: to you for.
Speaker 1: Speaking.
Speaker 4: I guess it has to be his love language.
Speaker 2: This Spanish you put on Harassio from Melissa.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he was stuck. He didn't know what to do.
Speaker 4: You started speaking I don't know, I don't know know
Speaker 4: Spanish or whatever.
Speaker 2: You started speaking that thing, and he was like, Melissa, Melissa,
Speaker 2: it's Melissa, it's Melissa.
Speaker 3: What did you say to him? How did you get
Speaker 3: him to vote for Melissa? And what effect does that
Speaker 3: have on his friendship with Kylin?
Speaker 5: Well, Kylon. The thing with Kylin is that he was
Speaker 5: another like I call Mariah this, and I called Michelle this,
Speaker 5: a panic patty like he was. He's not someone that
Speaker 5: you can just tell him like, hey, we got you.
Speaker 5: Just he's the type to be like I need proof.
Speaker 5: I need a ten page essay proving into me that
Speaker 5: you actually got my back. And so he keeps saying
Speaker 5: in this moment, like no one has my back, no
Speaker 5: one's gonna protect me. I'm like, kylind, I told you
Speaker 5: before we went into the house that I got you,
Speaker 5: like we're friends, I got you. But I think he
Speaker 5: was super paranoid, and because he was so in love
Speaker 5: with Melissa at the time that he's thinking she's the
Speaker 5: only one that's going to have my back. So we
Speaker 5: had already told him prior to that. Well, actually we
Speaker 5: don't think we told him. We told Dorascio. We're like, yes,
Speaker 5: we're we're throwing in Melissa. This is the plan right
Speaker 5: before when they're when they're nominating and doing their whole
Speaker 5: decision on who they want to throw in, Kylon forces
Speaker 5: Roasia to not say him or we're hearing it. We're hearing.
Speaker 5: We're hearing Kylin like, no vote with me, vote with me.
Speaker 5: I look at him, I was like, huh uh, because
Speaker 5: you're not about to throw in Raven, who is your number,
Speaker 5: Like we are a rider like literally aside from the Americans,
Speaker 5: within the Americans, we have our Rider Die alliance and
Speaker 5: you're a part of the Writer Die lines. And so
Speaker 5: it is Raven like, you're not about to throw in
Speaker 5: Raven who is two times your ally and save Melissa,
Speaker 5: who's not your ally at all. She's gonna throw you in.
Speaker 5: She's not protecting you for what like for Kyle. And
Speaker 5: so it was at that moment I wasn't going to
Speaker 5: speak up, but I was like, I can't let Raven
Speaker 5: be the automatic vote right now. And also Colleen Coueen
Speaker 5: is working with us on the other side, I think
Speaker 5: because of Colleen Berna was too, so it was like
Speaker 5: everybody kind of was in cahoots, even like everybody. So
Speaker 5: I'm looking at him like, if you don't vote with
Speaker 5: all of us, you're gonna put a target on your back,
Speaker 5: just like Raven did the second year, Like you need
Speaker 5: to stick with us. You already voted for Big T.
Speaker 5: It was the first time he voted for Big T
Speaker 5: in the first episode. Everybody was already like, he's not
Speaker 5: voting with the team. I was like, I'm not letting
Speaker 5: I'm not letting you do it again. So if I
Speaker 5: have to speak to you in Spanish and tell you no,
Speaker 5: like she's this is your ally, listen to me, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna do it. And it worked, and watching it back now,
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I was like, I love, I
Speaker 5: love he listened to me. But my infant thoughts to
Speaker 5: in that moment was that is literally like when they
Speaker 5: say Paula dicking, that's what it looks like that right,
Speaker 5: that right there is exactly.
Speaker 1: What That's what it looks like. It's done right, to be.
Speaker 5: Clear, exactly right. Yeah, I'm like, there we go. Okay,
Speaker 5: So now if you're.
Speaker 3: Gonna look up in the house. Get some benefits, and
Speaker 3: I don't just mean a lap dance from Hirossio.
Speaker 1: Because that is a benefit.
Speaker 3: Yes, get some boats on your side and with your numbers. Okay,
Speaker 3: so now let's move into this elimination. In the arena,
Speaker 3: TJ's looking gray and his blue open button down looks
Speaker 3: like it might be corduroy. And then we see you know,
Speaker 3: Big T and Melissa down there, Big T applying her
Speaker 3: lip gloss that she's ready, and then Kaz come out right.
Speaker 3: Two time champion, she's literally undefeated currently is her record
Speaker 3: in the challenge, which is impressive in and of itself.
Speaker 3: What were your thought okay, so what let's bring into
Speaker 3: three points. What were your thoughts when you first saw
Speaker 3: kas Then I want to know your thoughts as you
Speaker 3: saw the game begin, because we saw you talking to
Speaker 3: yourself a little bit something to the effect of your
Speaker 3: champion like act.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, get it together.
Speaker 3: But what were your thoughts when you first saw that
Speaker 3: Kaz is going to be the one coming down, Like
Speaker 3: did you feel differently than you did when you saw
Speaker 3: Jordan the previous week? Did you think it was going
Speaker 3: to be equally as tied up a competition.
Speaker 5: I was thinking to myself in that moment, I'm like,
Speaker 5: anybody that can keep up with Jordan and when a
Speaker 5: challenge with him has to be somewhat of a great competitor,
Speaker 5: because like, Jordan is a lot, and I feel like
Speaker 5: to be able to keep up with him and be
Speaker 5: able to win with him, I feel like it says
Speaker 5: a lot about your your ability as a competitor. And
Speaker 5: so I'm seeing her and I'm like, oh, yeah, she's
Speaker 5: gonna come out, She's gonna demolish. And at that point
Speaker 5: I see her come out and instantly I said, mission accomplished.
Speaker 5: Like we just threw down Melissa and Big T. We
Speaker 5: now have Kaz coming out, who's a strong contender, and
Speaker 5: she's gonna automatically send one of them home. And so
Speaker 5: seeing her, of my instant thought process was that perfect.
Speaker 5: Everything just worked out the exact way we wanted it
Speaker 5: to work out. And then and also my first honestly,
Speaker 5: my first first thought was she's gorgeous. Like I feel
Speaker 5: like the TV doesn't even kind of do it her
Speaker 5: justice because she really is like stunning, and I don't
Speaker 5: even think she was wearing makeup, Like she was just gorgeous.
Speaker 5: We all like a lot of us were saying that.
Speaker 5: There were like she's just beautiful and she comes out
Speaker 5: with such great energy, like super kind energy, and then
Speaker 5: the elimination starts and it was like instant I don't
Speaker 5: I don't know how to say it without I guess
Speaker 5: once again sounding like a bitch or sound like a
Speaker 5: mean girl. But it was like instant flop. I don't know,
Speaker 5: like if we were watching it and we were just
Speaker 5: like from the moment it started, no no joke. We
Speaker 5: really a lot of us up that were like, did
Speaker 5: she she throwing it? Is this? Like that did her
Speaker 5: and Big Tea come up with some type of cahoots
Speaker 5: in the back when they were getting dressed up because
Speaker 5: they're both from the UK. Maybe Kaz is like, you
Speaker 5: know what, I'll give you the win, Like that's what
Speaker 5: it looked like because it didn't look like she was
Speaker 5: trying at all, Like the reality of it is that
Speaker 5: Big Teeth demolished her and it was wild to watch
Speaker 5: because she has it just looked like she didn't care,
Speaker 5: like there was it didn't seem like much effort was
Speaker 5: going into the elimination and it was, like I said,
Speaker 5: probably admitted into it. We were like, oh, yeah, big
Speaker 5: T is gonna win, like there's there.
Speaker 3: And then I was actually big tea a little bit
Speaker 3: for her performance down there since everybod I.
Speaker 5: Came respect for Big T after the first elimination, watching
Speaker 5: watching how fast she did that and killed it. Like
Speaker 5: to me, I never at the after the first one.
Speaker 5: I wasn't like, oh yeah, big T is the weakest link.
Speaker 5: Like it was never like, oh we got to get
Speaker 5: her out because she is not providing anything for us.
Speaker 5: For me, I was like, oh, yeah, she gained I
Speaker 5: had already gained my respect, and then even more so
Speaker 5: after this elimination because, like I said, as is a
Speaker 5: two time champ, she's the champ of the champs and
Speaker 5: you just beat her effortlessly. So yeah, no, big T.
Speaker 5: She did her big one. She did her big one,
Speaker 5: and I was super proud.
Speaker 4: I don't think that, uh, I don't think she threw it.
Speaker 2: I think Big T actually because Devin, I look the
Speaker 2: moon and back, but I'm not giving up t K
Speaker 2: for you. I can't do it the same same. I
Speaker 2: don't think it was one of those thought.
Speaker 5: Oh well no, no, no, of course once, like I said,
Speaker 5: that was just the first thought process when you first
Speaker 5: see everything going on and you're like, how are you
Speaker 5: a champ of champs? And it looked it looked like
Speaker 5: it looked like you brought in someone that has never played,
Speaker 5: you've never done anything.
Speaker 3: When she just said how you, she has literally like
Speaker 3: rubbed her eyes as if she was trying to see.
Speaker 1: Clearly, like trying to understand, like how.
Speaker 5: But that's literally what it was. I was just just
Speaker 5: jaw drops like just and said.
Speaker 6: Not mad.
Speaker 5: It was just like no, no, no, no, definitely not mad.
Speaker 5: I mean to be if I My thought process in
Speaker 5: that moment was ship okay, so mission is not accomplished.
Speaker 5: It's all over again the next time.
Speaker 4: Like that, they both came back.
Speaker 5: All right. I was like, this plan did not work
Speaker 5: and now we're gonna have to figure out how to
Speaker 5: do this all over again the next time. And it's like,
Speaker 5: what was that?
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, back home? What was that? What we like?
Speaker 5: We walked? Our house is right behind via elimination stage.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, literally walked. It was right behind. It was
Speaker 5: maybe a three minute walk at most.
Speaker 1: That's just a little ominous.
Speaker 3: I feel like I would just forever every day feel yeah,
Speaker 3: like oh god, there it.
Speaker 5: Is you couldn't really see it from the house unless
Speaker 5: they were doing unless they had to bring in one
Speaker 5: of those one of those the crane, unless they brought
Speaker 5: in the cranes. That was the only way that you
Speaker 5: could see things because it was a little bit further
Speaker 5: like our house was like, this is the house, We're
Speaker 5: surrounded by a bunch of trees, and then it's on
Speaker 5: the other side, so you can really see it, luckily
Speaker 5: because they were but but but you could see the crane,
Speaker 5: so you always knew, yeah, it's gonna be big.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you didn't see the crane. You're like a ship.
Speaker 5: It might be something physical because right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So going back in though, the energy, so
Speaker 3: now you guys realize your plan didn't work. And also,
Speaker 3: by the way, walking watching that elimination was weird because
Speaker 3: I felt like the energy was weird in that last time.
Speaker 3: The house definitely felt like they were rooting for the house,
Speaker 3: like for your teammates, right for hearing this time it
Speaker 3: definitely but like pretty much only Melissa was rooting for
Speaker 3: Big Ta. So you guys like didn't outwardly root for Kaz,
Speaker 3: but kind of we're rooting for Kaz.
Speaker 1: And then Kaz was losing. It was a very.
Speaker 5: Weird, but that's the exact energy that it actually was,
Speaker 5: like we were all like poor big tea.
Speaker 1: I actually feel like that would be.
Speaker 3: A terrible emotional feeling, sort of of like everyone everyone's
Speaker 3: happy to give up ten k because they want me
Speaker 3: gone that much. But walking back into the house, did
Speaker 3: you or anyone else sort of rally? You know how
Speaker 3: usually we see when you come back after elimination, people
Speaker 3: rally around the winners, right, you know, they're.
Speaker 1: Like chap blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: I also feel like that's a political strategy to kind
Speaker 3: of be like I voted for you, but it's fine,
Speaker 3: you know, or whatever. Did people do that this go
Speaker 3: round too, or were people just still like non next
Speaker 3: week it's going.
Speaker 5: To be you. I So before even this one, we
Speaker 5: actually all of us kind of had a one day
Speaker 5: because after nominations, after even I think the first one,
Speaker 5: it was always super awkward in the house, Like the
Speaker 5: moment we go to nominations, we'd I'll come back to
Speaker 5: the house and they would be super quiet, the vibes
Speaker 5: would be so off, and it was a consistent thing,
Speaker 5: and then it would happen the same way after eliminations.
Speaker 5: So I don't remember if it was before this point
Speaker 5: or not, but we had already decided, Like I think
Speaker 5: it was specifically Big Tea that brought up the conversation,
Speaker 5: and she was like, hey, if you throw me in
Speaker 5: or for some reason one of us goes into elimination
Speaker 5: and we come back, can we just all be normal
Speaker 5: and praise each other and say good job to each other,
Speaker 5: like it's normal where you don't feel like you're being fake, right,
Speaker 5: because that's what it was. And I, you know, I
Speaker 5: had told her, I was. I had told them like,
Speaker 5: I feel weird if I vote you in to then
Speaker 5: go up to you and win, congratulate, and you give
Speaker 5: you a hug and say that you killed it because
Speaker 5: you could have killed it, but because I voted you
Speaker 5: and now I feel you. Yeah, And Big t was like,
Speaker 5: you know, let's just let bygones be bygones, like she
Speaker 5: specifically said. So maybe it was after this one because
Speaker 5: she was like, I want my praises, like I want
Speaker 5: you guys to come up to me and congratulate me,
Speaker 5: and I want you guys to celebrate with me, and
Speaker 5: we'll just move forward and whatever happens the next time
Speaker 5: happens next time, but she wanted, she wanted to be celebrated.
Speaker 5: I also do want to say yes because I think
Speaker 5: it's important. But big T tried going into the elimination
Speaker 5: for Melissa.
Speaker 1: Really what Yes, Yes, she tried.
Speaker 5: She tried, but they didn't let her. But I was like,
Speaker 5: I have to add that in there because it was
Speaker 5: super sweet because she was like, you know, she's like,
Speaker 5: she has a daughter. She's here fighting for some others,
Speaker 5: you know, something that I'm not fighting for. And she
Speaker 5: was like, I want her to give I want to
Speaker 5: give her that opportunity, but they didn't let her.
Speaker 3: So their friendship all around until we see her mouth
Speaker 3: pick me, pick me, when Kaz is picking the levers
Speaker 3: or whenever you see he sort of.
Speaker 1: Like hoping it's her.
Speaker 3: That is one hell of a friendship that I will
Speaker 3: never get from Davon no matter how long we work together.
Speaker 3: But I love, I love I love to see that
Speaker 3: and theres It's been so lovely chatting with you, and
Speaker 3: you know, I also love I love real, keeping it
Speaker 3: real and yes, you got the time out of the
Speaker 3: week from me about your advice, Like I love your
Speaker 3: vibe and getting to see this side I love how
Speaker 3: you put such an emphasis on growth, and I love
Speaker 3: that you guys, she's still blushing thinking about Horassio just
Speaker 3: so you.
Speaker 1: Know, you guys can't. She's literally is still blushing.
Speaker 5: It's so dum is officially now my favorite episode just
Speaker 5: because I relive that.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love that so much.
Speaker 3: I really am super super excited for you guys. I
Speaker 3: know it's like far off, but if a wedding happens,
Speaker 3: can day and I do like a reading, like we'll
Speaker 3: just do like a poph My god.
Speaker 5: Please, do I know my family? My family they have
Speaker 5: like that's going on on when he's gonna propose, my brothers,
Speaker 5: my brothers wholeheartedly, like like they truly believe that. By
Speaker 5: the summer of twenty four, I'm going to be engaged
Speaker 5: like they have this going on there by the summer
Speaker 5: for sure. I was like, Okay, we'll see. They're like.
Speaker 1: So much did I put it in the atmosphere? Also,
Speaker 1: we want the exclusive interview.
Speaker 3: Ooh, we should do like a podcast bachelorette party for her. Okay,
Speaker 3: well yeah yeah, that actually fun.
Speaker 1: That'd be so fun.
Speaker 3: So happy for your happiness, truly, Nurie and watching you
Speaker 3: throughout the show and excited to see you contend to play,
Speaker 3: continue to play. And also now I'll be watching knowing
Speaker 3: even if they just show your little one lighters and quips,
Speaker 3: I'll be like, but I know in her heart she
Speaker 3: said it kindly and that there were other thoughts she
Speaker 3: was thinking before she said get out of my face
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 5: YEA, Literally every time I'm like this, I'm no joke.
Speaker 5: I keep watching it back like very shut up, so mean.
Speaker 1: But we love a self aware queen.
Speaker 5: So yeah.
Speaker 3: For other people who want to continue to be inspired
Speaker 3: by your growth, and also they want to keep up
Speaker 3: on when the engagement announcement does officially happen, where can
Speaker 3: they find you on social media?
Speaker 5: Where can they follow you? You guys can find me
Speaker 5: on nurise k with teo. I'm pretty sure I'm the
Speaker 5: only one that will pop up, but you never know.
Speaker 5: And I think you can find my my tiktoks. I
Speaker 5: think my TikTok is nourie km and I like TikTok
Speaker 5: so much more than Instagram. So just I say, following
Speaker 5: me on there.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: And we see a little bit more of you and
Speaker 3: Hirasio as the sea, Like what can we expect like,
Speaker 3: what are some clues both you know, a little messy
Speaker 3: and just good hearted fun that we can see As
Speaker 3: the season goes on.
Speaker 5: You guys do get to see you, like get out
Speaker 5: of his shell a bit more. Hopefully you see him
Speaker 5: talking more, because this man don't talk. He don't speak
Speaker 5: at all. He's so quiet in his own world over there.
Speaker 5: That you guys will get to obviously continue seeing our
Speaker 5: love story. I'm excited to continue seeing the love story.
Speaker 5: And you guys, yeah, I guess I'm I'm excited. Like
Speaker 5: I said, you guys definitely get to see how my
Speaker 5: my best friend calls us. So she was like, you
Speaker 5: guys say.
Speaker 3: That is actually, oh my gosh, okay, we're gonna borrow
Speaker 3: that if that's okay.
Speaker 5: That she always says that she's like Narascio, And I
Speaker 5: was like, all right, whatever.
Speaker 2: But that makes me because in one of the trailers,
Speaker 2: I saw you crying and I said, if he heard her.
Speaker 2: I So I feel good to know.
Speaker 5: You guys will see our ups and downs for sure, which,
Speaker 5: like I said, I'm always I'm always even grateful for
Speaker 5: the downs because it gets you to the place that
Speaker 5: you're in now.
Speaker 3: So yeah, this vibe like I mean, geez, yes, come
Speaker 3: back anytime you bring your man what I know, which
Speaker 3: is also why can't I just explain again. I feel
Speaker 3: like a lot of people get it now, but some
Speaker 3: some of y'all who've gotten muted don't like that. It's
Speaker 3: literally our observations are literally episode by episode because we
Speaker 3: recognize that there is a full spectrum to any individual,
Speaker 3: and like on the show, you only get to see
Speaker 3: that moment, that context, that thing that they said or did,
Speaker 3: And so we always leave room this place.
Speaker 1: While it's it can be messy the Challenge podcast.
Speaker 3: It's also a safe space for someone to be their
Speaker 3: whole self, so we can see the other sides to you.
Speaker 1: Because I don't want to put you in a box.
Speaker 3: So that's why if I give you the time out
Speaker 3: and I love having you here and want you back,
Speaker 3: it saidn't mean you're not gonna do something in a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks that I'm like, nurice, you get in
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: But that's just the name of the game.
Speaker 3: But so look, thank you for coming on and mad
Speaker 3: respect for being tagged in people saying that I condemned
Speaker 3: your advice and still coming on with the positive attitude
Speaker 3: respect that surge.
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course I've had a great time. Thank you
Speaker 5: for having me, thank you for letting me spill the tea.
Speaker 5: Yeah I probably should probably should have said certain things,
Speaker 5: but it's okay now you good.
Speaker 1: Don't overthink, just overshare and you did, honey, and.
Speaker 4: We love your kids more.
Speaker 1: Continue happiness to you.
Speaker 3: Can't wait to see how the rest of the season
Speaker 3: plays out. If any more tea comes, you can always
Speaker 3: message me or and let us know if there's something.
Speaker 1: That you forgot or that comes to your future episodes.
Speaker 5: When we go over. I can't wait to tell you
Speaker 5: guys the more tea. But I'm not gonna say it all.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, Oh well we got to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got the guy wrap it up.
Speaker 5: We have to go.
Speaker 3: That was so good and I really, really, I really
Speaker 3: like Nurie. Actually, my husband makes fun of me for
Speaker 3: this because he says there are people I'll have strong
Speaker 3: opinions about things they do and then like I'll switch,
Speaker 3: like I'll either get to know them more and I'll
Speaker 3: completely switch. Whatever said strong opinion was.
Speaker 1: This is enough.
Speaker 3: I really like Nourice. She's a wonderful guest. That was
Speaker 3: such a fun interview and so glad that she came
Speaker 3: on Day. My opinion on you doesn't have a change.
Speaker 3: I find you entertaining attitude, No but entertaining and fun
Speaker 3: we go and always keeping it real, even real on YouTube.
Speaker 3: But for all the places that people want to find
Speaker 3: you and follow you, where can they do that?
Speaker 2: You can find me on the social medias. You can
Speaker 2: find me on Twitter at day deavon Underscore, you.
Speaker 4: Find me on TikTok at day Diane.
Speaker 2: You can find me on Instagram at Davon's in Underscore.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say YouTube in this episode because I
Speaker 2: ain't made no video in a week, so oh how
Speaker 2: many week time? It's some time I made no video
Speaker 2: on some time.
Speaker 4: Let me not lie.
Speaker 1: Where can find you?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just keep you here. You cannot find me
Speaker 3: on you. I mean you can find me on YouTube,
Speaker 3: but that page has been dead and gone. I think
Speaker 3: I actually have two under because I accidentally logged in
Speaker 3: under two different emails. So don't follow me on YouTube
Speaker 3: if you don't really want to. But you can go
Speaker 3: to my website that's devinsimone dot com. That's Devin with
Speaker 3: a y simone with an I scroll down to the bottom,
Speaker 3: you will see my socials. I'm most active on Instagram,
Speaker 3: which is also Devin simoone Devin with the Y so well,
Speaker 3: then I.
Speaker 1: Twitter as well. I see y'all tagging me, tweeting me.
Speaker 5: You can d m me.
Speaker 3: I appreciate your shout outs. I'll get better at responding,
Speaker 3: I promise. Also, we have fun stuff coming up. Make
Speaker 3: sure you're following me on Amazon, a lot of like
Speaker 3: fun videos, vibes. We can do live shout outs and
Speaker 3: shop and stuff together. So if you actually just go
Speaker 3: to my website you'll see that. Or if you just
Speaker 3: google Devin Simone Amazon, it'll pop up. It's called Devin
Speaker 3: Simones give Closet, But make sure you're hitting the follow.
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