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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 2: This is the almost famous podcast. The big episode, Well,

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Speaker 2: it is mental all and Ashley and I have been

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Speaker 2: honest in the past that this is not one of

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Speaker 2: our favorite episodes. But we are here to break it

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Speaker 2: down with all of you, talk about some of the

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Speaker 2: stuff that stood out to us, some of the stuff

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Speaker 2: that maybe was confusing. But it's a big episode not

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Speaker 2: because of mentel. It's because Ashley is joining us today. Yes,

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Speaker 2: this is how committed she is to speaking with myself

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Speaker 2: and all of you. After a massive night, Ashley was

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Speaker 2: reliving her teenage years. Well, really, she's just reliving her

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Speaker 2: life last night.

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Speaker 3: In my life, it's really no reliving. It's been a constant.

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Speaker 3: We took like a six year break.

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Speaker 4: What did you do last night?

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Speaker 3: Ash Last night I got to go to the Jones

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Speaker 3: Brother's concert at Yankee Stadium with my sister and my

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Speaker 3: two best friends. And we haven't done a concert, the

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Speaker 3: four of us, Oh my gosh, in a really long time, right, guys,

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Speaker 3: we were just debriefing about our night. We were having

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Speaker 3: like the like the post concert, the post drunk night

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Speaker 3: recap where you're like, I did that. I said that

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Speaker 3: I had the funniest clips of myself saying the stupidest things,

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Speaker 3: just like, you know, I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 3: be like, yeah, Nick was the hottest one, but I know,

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Speaker 3: Like this is our conversation last night and this morning.

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Speaker 3: It's just classic drunken girl talk. Like I definitely had

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Speaker 3: too much drink last night. I never admit that because

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Speaker 3: I usually don't ever go overboard.

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Speaker 4: Never.

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Speaker 3: We just had a grand ole time. It was just

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Speaker 3: I had a Long Island iced tea that really put

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Speaker 4: You know what a Long Island iced tea is, right.

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Speaker 3: It's basically straight up alcohol.

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Speaker 2: There's like no killer, It's like a little flavoring maybe

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Speaker 2: to mix it up. Here here's my question, Ashley, I

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Speaker 2: want to dive into this concert a little bit with

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Speaker 3: He's definitely doing this, guys, because we have nothing to

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Speaker 3: speak about about this episode because it's there's nothing that

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Speaker 3: happens except for Gary. It's all about Gary.

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Speaker 2: That's not true, Gary a little braiden stuff. We do

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Speaker 2: have some stuff to talk about, but I do want

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Speaker 2: to jump into this concert because I find it entertaining

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Speaker 2: and amusing. I also want to comment that behind you

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Speaker 2: right now is a Harry Styles poster, so we are

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Speaker 2: really living the teenage girl dream. Now, Okay, I have

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Speaker 2: a couple of things. I just got back from my

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Speaker 2: workout class. My workout classes, I've said before, is full

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Speaker 2: of women. It is ninety five percent women. I love

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Speaker 2: it because it's like heated yoga and weightlifting and pilates.

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Speaker 2: It feels really good on my knee. But over the

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Speaker 2: class who are consistent goers. One of my friends just

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Speaker 2: screaming and the crying and the yelling. She's thirty years old,

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Speaker 2: or at least close to it. So in your world, Ashley,

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Speaker 2: the Jonas Brothers are obviously a big part of that,

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Speaker 2: the Backstreet Boys and Sync and all that. How does

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Speaker 2: the Jonas Brothers and Taylor Swift compare? Like, catch me up.

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Speaker 2: If you're my daughter and I'm your father and you're

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Speaker 2: explaining to me like the difference between the two right now,

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Speaker 3: The age group is probably pretty similar as far as

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Speaker 3: like the core audience goes. However, so everybody, like I think,

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Speaker 3: like the people who grew up with it all, so

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Speaker 3: like the ones who've been through it all with the band.

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Speaker 2: You know, grown up with the band you just said that,

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Speaker 2: so like passionately like the one, the ones that grew

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Speaker 3: So almost famous like the movie. They're probably like late

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Speaker 3: I think I speak for all joint fans of that

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Speaker 3: have wild nights with our girlfriends. And that was more

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Speaker 3: of like our social musical artists. But Taylor Swift was

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Speaker 2: This is touching on something. Okay, so you're telling me

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Speaker 2: like this that you know obviously Taylor Swift's on tour.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say publicly.

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Speaker 3: Taylor's audience is all ages.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but kudos did Taylor. I did hear she gave

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Speaker 2: a bunch of money to everybody that works on her tour.

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Speaker 4: That was a big deal.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know. You know, I don't listen

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Speaker 2: to Taylor Swift. I don't know the music. I don't

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Speaker 2: listen to Jonas Brothers. But I have been over the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks following the Taylor Swift tour, mostly

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Speaker 2: because it's been so popular, so talked about, and I've

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Speaker 2: seen friends of mine, especially on social media, freak out,

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Speaker 2: like become different humans.

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Speaker 4: And I was confused why.

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Speaker 2: I thought, honestly, my cynicism said, it's an act, like

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Speaker 2: they're just doing this because everybody's doing it. But what

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Speaker 2: you're telling me, But what you're telling me, let me

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Speaker 2: finish this talk. But let me finish my thought here.

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Speaker 2: What you're telling me is Taylor Swift has this connection

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Speaker 2: or you would sit in your bedroom, or you would

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Speaker 2: sit in wherever you're at, and you would scream out

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Speaker 2: the lyrics to her song. You would cry with her

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Speaker 2: on these songs. You would relate with her in some

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Speaker 2: of your hardest moments. This was your breakup music, this

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Speaker 2: was your like healing music, This was your I just

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Speaker 3: It's a good point. That's a really really good point. Yes,

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Speaker 3: her music has been just our best friend through all

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Speaker 3: you're trying to figure out your life. Yeah, and I yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: It's just like I don't think you get more intimate

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Speaker 3: how did she go through the exact same thing I'm

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Speaker 3: going through. It's so nice too kind of tie it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I mean it makes sense not to me

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Speaker 2: last concert, there was a lot of comments from my

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Speaker 2: it's just a tailor thing, Like if you wouldn't, it's

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Speaker 2: hard for me to explain because it's just a tailor thing,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't understand it. So the Jonas Brothers and

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Speaker 2: all these other boy bands, they filled a role for

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Speaker 2: they're so cute. I love like just being near them,

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Speaker 3: Except like a parasocial relationship where it was just like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like every girl there is thinking like when they're

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Speaker 2: if I did have a shot that. Okay, I'm following here,

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Speaker 2: so in okay, to close this whole conversation up in

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Speaker 2: your now thirties, as you go to a Jonas Brothers

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Speaker 2: similar crew that used to same crew.

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Speaker 3: That's why it was so meaningful. We got the original

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Speaker 2: What's the emotions like? Is it similar? Is it now

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Speaker 2: just enjoyment? Is it laughing at your younger cells? Like what?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: How does it feel waking up the next day and going, uh,

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Speaker 2: we were just at a Jonas Brothers concert. Are you

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Speaker 3: Most of it is basically just laughing at our past

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Speaker 3: completely and like all the antics that we did back

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Speaker 3: and then it's a lot of like part of the music,

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Speaker 3: then like the New Music and the Happiness Begins album,

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Speaker 3: it's obviously just like you know, great to here because

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Speaker 3: like I love those songs truly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, I don't know, it's really just now

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Speaker 4: I still like.

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Speaker 3: Kind of pretend in your head that you are.

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Speaker 4: The fantasy of it is still there.

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Speaker 3: It's just an escape.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the fantasy of it is still there. I'm taking

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Speaker 2: Jessica to Ed Sheeran here in a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: or gee's less than a week in Denver, and I

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Speaker 2: Shecheron was not only her Taylor Swift growing up, but

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Speaker 2: he was also the dream Like I think.

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Speaker 4: He held both roles. Yeah, No, she she has like

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Speaker 3: Crush on Ed Cheron.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's not alone. Lots of girls do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so funny because yeah, when I think of

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Speaker 3: Ed Sheeron, I think of him feeling more of a

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Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, I think he I think he holds both

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Speaker 2: for some and I think my wife's one of those.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm gonna find out.

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Speaker 3: This is weird, So for her going Ed Cheron is

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Speaker 3: you know, he plays these stadiums, which it's crazy because

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Speaker 3: It's okay. Jared has been husband of the year when

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Speaker 2: Oh good, Well, I need to call jere this week

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Speaker 2: to relate his back to the Bachelor. The reason that

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Speaker 3: Did he sing on your season. We didn't realize.

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Speaker 3: He was still he was way big then.

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Speaker 4: He was so big.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you're on the Bachelorette, you don't have

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Speaker 2: I'm a book. You really don't have much to do

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Speaker 2: That was kind of our song on our season. That

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Speaker 2: odd ash like it was. It's a good song. But

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Speaker 2: I remember moments when I was missing home, or I

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Well, during that season, it's a long journey, and what

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Speaker 4: It's a unity moment, yeah, And.

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Speaker 2: I remember looking around and being like, this is a

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Speaker 2: I don't know how long this is going to last.

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Speaker 2: At this point, it was still early on. It was

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Speaker 2: I want to hold on to.

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Speaker 3: That's another almost famous movie moment.

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Speaker 4: You're right yeah, right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then just to tie that with Taylor and really,

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Speaker 3: album was about to come out when I was on Chrystals.

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Speaker 3: This season came out about five days I think after

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Speaker 3: I was eliminated, and I kept thinking, I was like,

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Speaker 4: Isn't that amazing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? That was that was fun. This is truly one

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Speaker 3: The single was shaken Off, okay, and I remember being

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Speaker 3: I was like, shake, shake, shake it off.

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Speaker 2: Music has a special place. I'm glad that you went

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Speaker 2: to the concert last night. I'm glad you're here with

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, I do think we're a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Just.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to say sad.

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Speaker 2: This week isn't one that we look forward to because

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Speaker 4: Uh. It does feel like a filler to us.

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Speaker 2: However, we did have the big announcement of Gary coming

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Speaker 2: as the Golden Bachelor. I think that's a big announcement.

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Speaker 2: I I still will put my Uh. If I if

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Speaker 2: say that show is gonna do well. It should do well.

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Speaker 2: I think the show has the potential to do really well.

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Speaker 2: After watching it last night, though, I Uh, our producer

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Speaker 4: Now she did, yeah, she called me and I said,

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Speaker 4: I'm bombed. I'm really bombed. I know I've said it.

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Speaker 2: I was going from the stance of begging to saying

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Speaker 2: pleading to saying, Hey, I really like to be involved.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a good show. I

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Speaker 2: To now, I'm just bummed because I don't get why

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Speaker 3: Be honest about the fact you're open to being honest. Sure,

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Speaker 3: exactly what's kind of happened?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've just gotten like I've gotten teased like, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're going to have you involved.

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Speaker 4: Hey, we're going to have you around, and then nothing.

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Speaker 3: And they've asked you for specific things and then nothing,

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Speaker 3: and then it's part of episodes and then they canceled

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really weird to me, and I'm really sad

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Speaker 3: Ever happened before where you've been canceled on by them

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Speaker 3: so many times?

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Speaker 4: Uh no, because I never get asked for anything.

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Speaker 3: And you have come back for plenty of this.

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Speaker 2: The year afterwards when I was like under contract, I

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Speaker 3: Well, we were both on Matt season. You were on

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Speaker 2: I was on Matt season. I think only because I

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Speaker 2: for five days I only agree to quarantine for five

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 2: You know you're but not to make this, you know,

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Speaker 2: But I'm just bummed now, Like I'm really sad because

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Speaker 2: I don't think there is going to be an opportunity

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Speaker 2: And he's from Indiana. I've really you know, we we're

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Speaker 2: it was, I thought it was a great concept. I

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Speaker 3: They're oh, they pulled women from Indiana.

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Speaker 4: The couple of them. Yeah. I have been reached out

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Speaker 3: Told I've been smart honestly because that he's not going

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Speaker 4: It's very smart.

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Speaker 2: And so it just feels like, if anything, like I

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Speaker 2: how you holding up, Bud, Like, don't even put me

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Speaker 2: on the television show. I'm not saying that, Like I'm

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Speaker 2: saying I just would like to be around for his

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Speaker 3: Well, Ben feels like he's, you know, in the middle

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Speaker 3: know it sounds like we're like, you know, we talk

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Speaker 4: About that show.

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Speaker 2: Me on I said, I would work buying the scenes

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Speaker 2: like I would do I don't know, like be Gary's personal,

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Speaker 2: like I'd be a handler like I just I just

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Speaker 3: It would be a great handler for him. Handlers are

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Speaker 3: so important on that show, and they also are a

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Speaker 4: I just would like to have been around to like

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Speaker 3: I think you're gonna be part of like the final rows,

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Speaker 3: like the top three.

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Speaker 2: They would have to tell me very soon I would

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Speaker 2: say that I'm leaving. But anyways, so yeah, so kind

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Speaker 2: of a tough relationship right now, but he was announced.

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Speaker 2: I am still very excited for him. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 2: a huge fan of this season. I know you are

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Speaker 2: as well. He did have his some great moments. I okay,

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Speaker 2: the comment to me that I haven't heard yet, but

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Speaker 2: I haven't talked to many people about it. They said

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Speaker 2: Gary's hot, like they were, and they're all like our age,

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Speaker 2: like Gary is an attractive man.

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 2: Very as we spoke about, kind of naive about how

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Speaker 4: But he is an attractive man, and I think.

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Speaker 3: My sister says he's has never been more attracted to

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Speaker 3: a bachelor before.

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Speaker 4: No, I take that personally.

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Speaker 3: I know I'm gonna take that first one or two.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Lauren, Ben Nick Chryssoles, come on, now.

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Speaker 4: I know you have been Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, But I mean so he has that kind of

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Speaker 2: poll that we were wondering if you would have, where

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Speaker 2: he is an attractive man, and I think he shows

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Speaker 2: up great on camera. I thought he was had a

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: He's endearing and.

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Speaker 2: I believe this could be a great love story. So

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Speaker 2: after my question for you, after seeing Gary on national

443
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: television really for the first time, are you as excited

444
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 2: about this Golden Bachelor as you were before?

445
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 3: Ben, Yeah, I could not be more excited. Again, I

446
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 3: am joked totally genuinely. If I didn't have we didn't

447
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 3: have Almost Famous, I would be so excited about this season.

448
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 3: I have friends who haven't watched the show in a while,

449
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 3: and they text me and they go, when is this starting?

450
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 3: Because I'm very curious. This man is everything we've wanted.

451
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 3: A lead from the franchise when he was telling his

452
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: story about his wife and how they bought their dream

453
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 3: home and then she literally passes away within two weeks

454
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 3: of them signing the purchase in a crazy way where

455
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 3: it's just like she had an infection. They brought her,

456
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 3: he brought her to the emergency room and she was

457
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 3: gone within a week. I mean the way that he

458
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 3: spoke about it, and he's so emotional, and he seems

459
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,959
Speaker 3: so comfortable being emotional, and I love that. And the

460
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: way that he answers his questions are also perfect, Like

461
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 3: like Jesse asked him if he believes in two Loves

462
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 3: of his Life, which is a Sex and the City episode,

463
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 3: and it's great, but he handled it so well. He goes,

464
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 3: I don't think that this I'm looking for a love

465
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 3: the way I had with my wife. You can definitely

466
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 3: maybe I gathered it. Yeah, like I think he's looking

467
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 3: more like for like an old end of life chapter companion.

468
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 3: You know, he wants he believes that he's going to

469
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 3: be able to find somebody who's this perfect match. But

470
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 3: I definitely think that he's just going to think about

471
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 3: the two hopefully wives totally separate for totally separate parts

472
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 3: of life. Like he just worded it so well, and

473
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 3: he's so emotional and he's so endearing and funny, like

474
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 3: he I don't even he Like the funniness is like

475
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 3: half unintentional and the other half is like he's actually

476
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 3: kind of a witty dude, and he's going to be

477
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 3: so dynamic on screen. He's so full rounded and like

478
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 3: he comes with that confidence where he's like, I don't

479
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 3: need to impress anyone. This is just me because he's

480
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 3: so much older than when we normally see is the lead.

481
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 3: I'm just so stoked. This episode got me thrilled. I

482
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 3: want everybody who's ever been a Bachelor fan and they've

483
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 3: kind of like given up on the show over the years,

484
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 3: to just watch this clip, like the five minutes in

485
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 3: the mental all so that they will be also excited

486
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: for a new chapter of the franchise.

487
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of things there. If everybody listens to

488
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: this podcast weekly and we know our numbers watches, the

489
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor will have probably better ratings than both Bachelor

490
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: and Bachelor at seasons. So if everybody here, if we

491
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 2: can convince them to tune in, and you know, it's funny.

492
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: Yesterday I played in a golf tournament and I was

493
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: in a group of five other guys and I was

494
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,719
Speaker 2: explaining to them the concept of the Golden Bachelor, and

495
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: they were like, that's a show I want to watch,

496
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: and we're you know, there was some laughter to it too.

497
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, what you know, as we've kind of

498
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 2: joked about, like when's the last time you saw a

499
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 2: sixty year old two six year old's like making out

500
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 2: like you know it and they're like, yeah, that's wild,

501
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 2: but like the story could be really intriguing. I think

502
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: this is going to go go cross demographics. It's going

503
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: to bring in new viewership. I'll put the bet down

504
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: right now that it has the potential to get more

505
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: viewership than the Bachelor or Bachelorette is getting Right now,

506
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: I think it is going to bring back in the

507
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 2: old fans.

508
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: I hope time frame is concerning though, is a ten

509
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 3: pm slot. I think that we're just going to get

510
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 3: a lot of people streaming.

511
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: It, sure, but I don't think it's going to stay

512
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: in the ten pm slot for long. I do think

513
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: this could be a new thing. A few other comments

514
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 2: based on what you were saying. You know, I have

515
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: a few examples in my life of people who have

516
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: lost spouses.

517
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 4: Two different spectrums.

518
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: One my football coach in high school, lost his wife

519
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: suddenly to cancer at like thirty eight years old, right,

520
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: and they were deeply in love. And so then two

521
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: years later, maybe he found a new partner. Somebody came

522
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: into his life, somebody he knew before, and they got married.

523
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 2: And here's the beautiful thing to it. They both run

524
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 2: the foundation in his former wife hit the memory. They

525
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: run the foundation together, they put on events in her name,

526
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: and like that's such a beautiful thing to think, you know.

527
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: I think that's what Gary was saying is it doesn't

528
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: have to be the same kind of love. It doesn't

529
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: have to be an equal amount of love. It's there's

530
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: a love. And the second side story i'd share.

531
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: Yet talking about like wanting to just like wake up

532
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 3: to somebody and feel whole again, which I know a

533
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: lot of people say, like somebody shouldn't completely or make

534
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 3: you feel whole, You should feel like that by yourself.

535
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 3: But I just love the way that he's like kind

536
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: of old school and traditional about that thought.

537
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: Well, and if it's how he feels, it's how he feels.

538
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 4: It's the truth.

539
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: I mean, we can't say, hey, you're you're not seeing

540
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: the world correctly, or hey, you aren't up with modern times.

541
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: No.

542
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: If that's what he wants and how he feels, that

543
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: is how he should live and what he should pursue,

544
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: we are not here to criticize him on either way.

545
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: The other one is my I have a great uncle

546
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 2: who lost his wife suddenly after geez, fifty years of

547
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: marriage just a few years ago, and a few months

548
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 2: later he found a new partner that he's been dating

549
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: or whatever, you know, going to visit for the last

550
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: like three years. And if you talk to him, it's

551
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: because he says, I don't want to be alone, Like

552
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: I like having somebody beside me, I like having somebody

553
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: to do things with.

554
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 4: Like it doesn't you know.

555
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: I think when you're with a partner for so long,

556
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: I think you get used to that and you desire

557
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: to have that again. And I'll go and I'll close

558
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 2: here with Michael Ay's famous quote where he said, Yeah,

559
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: how lucky.

560
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 4: Am I to be able to find love twice?

561
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, And they'll just point out he's been a

562
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 3: widower for six years now, and he was just full

563
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 3: of wisdom, and I love We're going to get this.

564
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 3: I love that the guys you know in Charity season,

565
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: when asked if they had any advice for him, they

566
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 3: were like, dude, we don't have advice for you. You

567
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: can give us advice. And it was really sweet, and

568
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 3: he said, like, just make sure that you tell your

569
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 3: partner every day that you love them, and like give

570
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 3: him a big hug, because the amount of time that

571
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: you have left with them is like unbelievably well, it

572
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: could end at any time, but also like it's even

573
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: in a long, long relationship, is so fast. Oh, he's

574
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 3: just such a freaking cutie buttuti. And I'm just so

575
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: sad that, like I don't even why do I say

576
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: that I'm sad. I'm like that was just such a

577
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 3: highlight of the episode, or I was the biggest time

578
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: a few minutes that like, yeah, I feel bad about

579
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: like not really remembering a ton more from like the

580
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: tell All part.

581
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: Well, let's jump into the tell All part part. I

582
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: would categorize the tell All as Braiden's show. I mean

583
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: everybody talked about Braiden. Everybody was, you know, only draw

584
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: him on the entire season. Basically Sure, but isn't it

585
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be great if the villain or the dry

586
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: wasn't the thing to take. I mean that's maybe why

587
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: we are feeling like this episode doesn't it's misplaced in

588
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: this season because the drama has not.

589
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: Been They haven't had really drama.

590
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: The front and center.

591
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: It's been a love story, and so this mentell all

592
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: felt like it flashed us back to previous seasons where

593
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: we're like, the drama is just so intense that it's

594
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: hard to watch because there's nothing that feels healthy or

595
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: good coming from it. The mente all felt that way

596
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: to me from all sides. Ultimately, though, I think bringing

597
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: out what he wanted He's going to Paradise.

598
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. The big thing I think that they focused on

599
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 3: with him, and which I really appreciated what the show

600
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: did with it, was that they kept saying, you called

601
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: charity class list, you called her class over and over again,

602
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: and he's like, I did not, And then the show

603
00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: flashes the screen going to commercial and says, we've got

604
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: through all the footage we can and we cannot find

605
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: anywhere that he said classless.

606
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,239
Speaker 2: Hmmm, what do you think is happening there? Is it

607
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: kind of the game of telephone? Is it them just

608
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: getting so upset with Braiden that like things are being misconstrued?

609
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

610
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 4: Do you feel bad for Braiden Ashley?

611
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: You know that I have, Like I'm I don't have

612
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: a soft spot for him. I just think that he's

613
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 3: been an overblown villain. Okay, he certainly made his mistakes,

614
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: and he definitely shouldn't have been on a show where

615
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: you should be getting engaged at the end.

616
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

617
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: Like, also, I don't think he did anything super villainous,

618
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: and I think that there's just been I think the

619
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: guys are honestly, they were a little threatened by him.

620
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think when you have the first

621
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: impression was I would actually say, this is the closest

622
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: thing to Olivia Creedy that I've seen. Yeah, in years,

623
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: you know, she got the first impression rows and then

624
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: it felt like the target was on her back and

625
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: and then it kind of spiraled, and I would take

626
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: blame for that, you know, personally as well, that I

627
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: let it spiral, or that I didn't. I don't know

628
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: if I didn't see through, but there was like the

629
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: drama did play a part in my decision making because

630
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: it was like, yeah, everybody else doesn't like enjoy you know, right,

631
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: you know, her being around, and so why should I

632
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: enjoy her being around?

633
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 4: And I did let it play too much into it,

634
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 4: and she didn't deserve it at all.

635
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: I think she just had the target on her back,

636
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: and I don't think all people can handle that like

637
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: well or do it without controversy.

638
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep, exactly Jesse. I think it was Jesse.

639
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if somebody said Brydon was his problem

640
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: was being too honest and having weird earrings. That's basically

641
00:31:59,520 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: what it was.

642
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, those didn't help. I can't. I would say those

643
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 4: didn't help. The scarves and.

644
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: They definitely didn't because they put off an air of

645
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: cockiness where he was like, I can pull these off.

646
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 4: Well.

647
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: I was looking at a picture after the show and

648
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: like he has a very interesting like wardrobe or vibe

649
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: and you know, clothes I've learned over my time and

650
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: be married are meant to express your personality, and so

651
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: maybe that's just his personality where he can wear funky

652
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: earrings but also like slick his hair back, wear a suit,

653
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: and wear like very fancy, like old school glasses. Like nothing,

654
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: nothing is consistent there in his wardrobe. It's just like

655
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: I'll throw whatever feels good to me on. But maybe

656
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: that is how he feels internally, is like a little chaotic,

657
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: a little bit like I want to just wear what

658
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: I want to wear.

659
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: Yep. Oh, but there was something that came out on

660
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: TikTok and we missed this a few weeks ago. My

661
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: sister said that there's this girl that was dating Brandon

662
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 3: and like went on family vacations and stuff. Pretty much

663
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: a classic scenario if you can get every year now

664
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: with all this social media. She said that he left

665
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 3: her to go on the show and that they were

666
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: a pretty committed relationship.

667
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I've I've

668
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: expressed my thoughts on that before. As long as you

669
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: in that relationship, then you're probably telling that.

670
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 4: Person that it wasn't gonna happen.

671
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: Anyway.

672
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't gonna happen anyways. And so it goes

673
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: back to the question how soon is too soon? Hopefully

674
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: he handled it well, But I just don't think that

675
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: is as big as story as maybe we want to

676
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: make it, because like, if you ended the relationship to

677
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: go on the show because you didn't think that other

678
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: relationship was, you're forever Okay, I can't be I'm not

679
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: mad at him for it. I mean, it sucks probably

680
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: to be broken up with and to be, you know,

681
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: a couple of months later you're watching this person on

682
00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: national television. The scenario isn't good and there's probably really

683
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: a lot of better ways to go about it. But

684
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: if you ended it. Now, if you didn't end it

685
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: and you went on the show, that's a problem. But

686
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: if you ended it you made that very clear, then

687
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 2: what you know, who are we to you know, Judge right, exactly,

688
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: A couple other people stood out to you. I'm gonna

689
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 2: get your just very short thoughts Ashley on it. Sean

690
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: Sean has some moments here.

691
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: Sean basically just came after Braiden again, like he just

692
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: loves to come after Brandon, and he was the one

693
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: that was really drilling the whole class list thing.

694
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 4: You know, sure, Okay, so Sean's there, and then I.

695
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: Think the big thing we're talking about is probably Xavier

696
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 3: in the Hoazia.

697
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: Xavier in the hot seat is the kind of the

698
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: final You know, you had the Braiden, you had the Sean,

699
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: you had the Xaviers. There was really nobody else that

700
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: made a massive impression, and nobody that really the podcast

701
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: here is going to talk about, because only some other

702
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: people that talked had only been there for you know,

703
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: a week, and they were you know, using this as

704
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: their one moment to kind of have their final word.

705
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: But the Xavier situation was one that I was going

706
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: to be intrigued by because I did feel like their

707
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: breakup on the show was a difficult one for Charity.

708
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: I didn't understand if it was going to be difficult

709
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: for Xavier. What was your take from his hot seat?

710
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: Just that he like hates the fact that he was

711
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: honest and then his honesty kicked him in the blood.

712
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: That's such I don't love that, right, Like I hate

713
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 2: that I was so honest. Well, no, you were honest,

714
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: and you should be. I think everybody's thankful that you

715
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: were honest. I mean you were ready. I think you

716
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: could have been honest a little earlier. Maybe you didn't

717
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: realize it then. But the worst thing that he could

718
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: have done, and the worst thing that could have happened

719
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: to Charity was he was not honest at any point.

720
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: They get off the show, she thinks she found her

721
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: forever love, and then a couple of days later he's like, oh, yeah,

722
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: by the way, like I'm not ready, Like that would

723
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: be crushing.

724
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. He also clarified why he said I love

725
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: you at the limo and or the suv when he

726
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: was leaving, and I was like, didn't I guess like

727
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: he had said I'm falling in love with you the

728
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: week before at hometown, so it wasn't jarring to us,

729
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: Like we never even mentioned this on last week's podcast,

730
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 3: that he said love you when he was leaving, But

731
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: I guess it was kind of a bigger deal because

732
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: he crossed the bridge from falling in love to saying

733
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: I love you, Charity, and he just said that in

734
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: that moment, he really just wanted her to know that,

735
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 3: like where you know that he had those deep feelings

736
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 3: for her, and you know, just like again just wanting

737
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: to be honest with everything that he was experiencing.

738
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then.

739
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: There's the knit rose. You know, the knit ros. It

740
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: was so freaking it was so she was like, no,

741
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: thank you, thank you. This is going to go in

742
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: the trash. I mean, it's gonna be weird if I

743
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 3: keep a knit rose from a man who I dumbed

744
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks before getting engaged. You know, in

745
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: the humane is such a dramatic fashion, it's like kind

746
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: of silly. You know, they're like you're going to You're

747
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: gonna get up from the seat next to her and

748
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: you're gonna say, I just need one minute. I got

749
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: to get something for you. And it comes back with

750
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: as it's just like such a TV moment.

751
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 4: It is not impressed now I do.

752
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: I would recommend if I, if we talk to Charity,

753
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: say keep all.

754
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 4: Those those things.

755
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: I know that you know one day you'll look back

756
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: when it means you know, when the pain is less

757
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: and the memories are further back, and you look back

758
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: and just be like that was a that was a

759
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 2: crazy season of life.

760
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: Do you have anything? I have a whole lot like

761
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: that sticks out to you because I have still the

762
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: tractor that Crystals gave me for winning the tractor race,

763
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: my little gift for winning, and it's it's in my

764
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 3: room in my parents' house.

765
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

766
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: I still have a whole tub full of anything that

767
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: was gifted to me. And I still have all of

768
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: my roses that have been dried out sitting in a

769
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: jar here.

770
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: Well, that's cute from Caitlyn season.

771
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: Or ones that you've given out Caitlin season. You know,

772
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: there's just like there's things that make you remember that season.

773
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: I don't have, but I do have a tub somewhere

774
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: in my house full of all the gifts. I would

775
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: have to search hard to find it, but I do

776
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: still have them.

777
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ashley, that was the mentel I'll breakdown.

778
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: In my opinion, the rest of Charity season is one

779
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: that we are excited for. We are going to be

780
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: diving into the sneak peaks. I didn't feel like gave

781
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: us a lot other than the fact that this is

782
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: really hard on Charity and I think we expected that

783
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: for weeks.

784
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we also see her kiss Aaron, like she

785
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: kisses Aaron and she's like, well, she says, this is

786
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: changing everything. And again, like I said, lastly, a good girl. No, no, Yeah,

787
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 3: you just said that you're basically in love with these

788
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: other two. Do not this guy that you already eliminated

789
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: back in. You eliminated him for a reason. Ye, and

790
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: you have two amazing candidates in front of you. I

791
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: still the role that her mom's going to play next week.

792
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 3: I'm very excited to see that, because they showed quite a.

793
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 4: Bit it does.

794
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: This situation with Aaron does bring some some unforeseen intrigue

795
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: into the last two episodes, and I do think it's

796
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: going to switch things up a bit. I you know,

797
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: last week we were speculating how much of a role

798
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: Aaron was going to play. We didn't know if him

799
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: walking in the beach was just b roll, if he

800
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: was going to be in and out. I think he

801
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 2: is going to play a role in in this whole thing.

802
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: I I still suspect he doesn't make it to the

803
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: final two. I don't see that happening now, but I

804
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: do think maybe he's around another ceremony. Yeah, I could

805
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 2: see him get in a fantasy suite. I could see

806
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: them having it daily. Yeah, I could see that, But

807
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 2: I don't see him.

808
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: Just get it your system, like know what ifs.

809
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 4: Know what ifs.

810
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: It's time for bachelor headlines. Kaylin miller Key celebrates dream

811
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: bachelorette trip of head ahead of wedding to Dean. This

812
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: according to people. My wife Jessica was on this trip.

813
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: She said it was she was absolutely fan freakingtastic.

814
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 3: Aw Ben, Well, then you cover the headline. What did

815
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 3: they do? Oh?

816
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: I mean so very much. Kind of mirrored Kaylen's personality.

817
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: She isn't a big go outer. She likes to do

818
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: really fun things in close groups. And so they stayed

819
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: at a great resort in San Diego. I forget the

820
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 2: name of it. One second, hey.

821
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 4: Han, what was the name of your resort?

822
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: The Rancho Bernardo in and Sandy Diego. And they played pickleball,

823
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: they played with puppies, They went on some brunches, they

824
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: went on a picnic, they dressed up in dresses. They

825
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 2: had a lot of good times together around the resort,

826
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: They went out to dinner. It was a really good weekend.

827
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: Jessica came back very happy. And you know, one of

828
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: the things we talked about last night, she said, I

829
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: believe Caitlen felt very celebrated.

830
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 4: I hope she did.

831
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 2: She was very loved on, and she is very loved,

832
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: and so I'm hoping she feels the same way because

833
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: it sounded like an awesome bachelorette.

834
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 3: I'm so happy for her. That's awesome. Next one, I'll

835
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: take this headline so I can throw it to you.

836
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 3: Caitlin Brisos wanted filming The Golden Bachelor. She did post

837
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 3: this on her Instagram story a couple days ago, saying

838
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 3: that she was going to be part of one of

839
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: those public dates. Yeah, you're like, is she the host?

840
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: So she was the host, which would have been you know,

841
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: I just I just don't understand anymore. I love Caitlin.

842
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 2: She's been around a ton. She should be used a ton.

843
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 4: I just like that.

844
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: That would have been a cool thing for like, I

845
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: don't know again, I would have loved to work it,

846
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 2: like let me set up the pillows on the sofa.

847
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, she was spotted there. She's going to be

848
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 2: a part of this season. She was posting about it.

849
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: We don't know much about it. We don't know much.

850
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 4: I don't know anything.

851
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: It's like there was a video on TikTok of a

852
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 3: girl of like a whole bunch of ladies arriving on

853
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: a party bus at the Canyon Club in La. Yeah,

854
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: and Caitlyn was there, so it's just gonna be you know,

855
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: it's just gonna host a ladies group date.

856
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great.

857
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: Maybe I need to be more critical of the show.

858
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the way to get back on this show.

859
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the way to get a job.

860
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

861
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: Bachelor in Paradise stars Abigail and Noah are engaged.

862
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 4: The proposal was perfect, they.

863
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 3: Said, yes, Congratulations the happy couple. This actually is according

864
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 3: to you know, our girl Bachelor data and just like

865
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 3: simple math, that season of The Bachelor, Bachelor in Paradise,

866
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: I think it was season seven, and from season seven,

867
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 3: we have Serena and Joe married, Marie and Kenny about

868
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 3: to be married, Noah and Abigail now engaged, Reckond Thomas

869
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: engaged with baby on the way, Piper and Brandon are

870
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: still together no way, yeah, out of the limelight, but

871
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 3: still together. And then Alana and Chris, another very controversial

872
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: couple from that season still together.

873
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 4: Yeah. I forgot about that. Wow, what a successful Paradise

874
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 4: goodness gracious.

875
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean, congratulations, We're so happy they have

876
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: been together for Oh my gosh, this has been it

877
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Speaker 3: has been two whole years. And there was a four

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Speaker 3: cared oval shaped ring of course of the engaged and

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Speaker 3: it's by Keysar Jewelry. Becca and Thomas played a big

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Speaker 3: role in getting the whole scene set up for Noah

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Speaker 3: to propose arrangements and all that and just a beautiful,

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Speaker 3: beautiful look engagement scene. As you can see on their Instagram.

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Speaker 3: They walked up on a sa up, well, they walked

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Speaker 3: up on the stairs to a rooftop and there are

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Speaker 3: roses and candles overlooking the ocean, so pretty, lots of

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Speaker 3: lots of roses. She was crying right when she saw

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Speaker 3: all that set up.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations to the two of them were excited and celebrating

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Speaker 2: their engagement. The final headline is this a friend of

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Speaker 2: yours and Ashley, I'll let you take this. Jade Roper

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Speaker 2: just post on Instagram recently, and I'll read the first

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Speaker 2: sentence of the post. It says, I've been struggling what

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Speaker 2: to write here as I've been navigating a miscarriage.

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Speaker 3: So Jade obviously is going through a very hard time

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Speaker 3: right now, and I'm gonna obviously let her like reveal

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Speaker 3: as many details as she'd like to in her Instagram posts.

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Speaker 3: She does say that she's kind of taking the more

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Speaker 3: natural route when it comes to letting this miscarriage just

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Speaker 3: go through her body right now. Basically, this is one

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Speaker 3: of the hardest parts on her is that, like the

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Speaker 3: baby start stopped growing a couple of weeks ago, but

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Speaker 3: she still hasn't like miscarried yet. So basically she just

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Speaker 3: has like a baby kind of just in her body

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Speaker 3: and she's just gonna let it release naturally. They were trying.

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Speaker 3: She has just been, you know, really really wanting a

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Speaker 3: fourth child. That fourth child is very much in her heart,

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Speaker 3: Like she just feels like that'll be when her family

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Speaker 3: is complete, like that number just like really like just

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Speaker 3: just just something that she just an instinctual feeling that

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Speaker 3: she just needs, you know, that she really really wants

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Speaker 3: to have a four kid. So Tanner is you know,

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Speaker 3: Tanner was willing to make his wife's wishes happen to

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Speaker 3: a certain extent. He said that they try like for

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Speaker 3: three months, and within that three months she got pregnant.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it was a different pregnancy than her past

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Speaker 3: couple as far as like how she was feeling. And

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Speaker 3: I will kind of let her talk about everything else

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Speaker 3: she wants to talk about. But yeah, obviously she's going

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Speaker 3: through a really rough time right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough time from both We're thinking about

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Speaker 2: him here and obviously I think, yeah, the why thing

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Speaker 2: to do is to allow her to speak to this

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Speaker 2: outside of the details she showed on her social media

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Speaker 2: as much as she would like and when she's ready,

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Speaker 2: if you know, she ever wants to. But we're thinking

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Speaker 2: of Tanner and we're thinking of Jade and that family

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Speaker 2: as they go through this process. Well, ash this is it.

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Speaker 2: Those are the Mentel episode. We broke it down, covered headlines.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back next week talking about everything charity season.

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Speaker 2: Until then, I've been Ben, I've been Ashley.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys.

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