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Speaker 1: Oh time watch Steve Tasker's time time down time. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to one Bill's Live Steve task along with Chris Brown.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be here till three o'clock today. Uh, busy

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Speaker 1: morning around. I'll just give give our faithful listeners of warning.

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Speaker 1: I am predicting a Brownie rant. I'm predicting a Brownie

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Speaker 1: rant for today at some point. It's something he's just

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Speaker 1: got a vent and it'll be about something unrelated to

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Speaker 1: what he's been telling this his day has been like.

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Speaker 1: But nevertheless, Uh, stay tuned for the half. Oh my,

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Speaker 1: that's probably and I happened. Hey, everybody, Steve Tasker and

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, we're we're starting that we're on radio only

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Speaker 1: once again. And I don't want to, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. There's nothing to tell except that we are

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Speaker 1: going to be back on TV, probably during training camp

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Speaker 1: at some point, maybe in the next few weeks, we'll

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Speaker 1: be back on the air. We're starting to move towards

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Speaker 1: that direction. Once they get the team on in the

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Speaker 1: facility in the building and get them all kind of

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Speaker 1: squared away, there may be a chance for us to

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Speaker 1: slip in a side door and use our studio once

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Speaker 1: in a while, so like every day. So for those

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Speaker 1: of you who miss us on MSG, we'll be back

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Speaker 1: there someday. Way to nail it down, Steve. You know,

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Speaker 1: baby steps, Brownie, baby steps. Keep checking MSG periodically. We

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Speaker 1: may be there. Right yeah, Well there you go. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want else to say. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's there's not much else to say. I got tons

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Speaker 1: of stuff going on in the NFL. We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: Marquis Goodwin on today. Of course, Bills fans will remember him.

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Speaker 1: He was a Buffalo Bill from flash. Yeah. He was

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Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bill from two thousand sixteen all the way

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Speaker 1: up until uh thirteen, twenty sixteen. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he was there for four years. Now he's with

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. He was with the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: last year in their Super Bowl run and all that

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Speaker 1: end night. Yeah out And if you if you got

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Speaker 1: a chance to listen to his YouTube video that he

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Speaker 1: put out announcing that he opted out the things that

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Speaker 1: he had been through leading up to it pretty easy

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Speaker 1: to understand why, right Brownie, Yes, um, you know, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's unfortunate that he's got a lot of negative

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Speaker 1: blowback on Twitter and the other social media channels because

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Speaker 1: you don't know him. You don't know his story, you

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Speaker 1: don't know his family, you don't know what his family's

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Speaker 1: dealing with. So if if you're gonna have an issue

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Speaker 1: with a guy making this decision, well that's bad on

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Speaker 1: you because everybody's got a different situation that they're dealing

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Speaker 1: with at home, and all you know is Mark. He's

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Speaker 1: good when the football players, so shut the hell up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got He and his wife struggled to um well,

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Speaker 1: they struggled with child Earth a couple of times and

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Speaker 1: it was not it was not good, and it was

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Speaker 1: a tragic end to it. And now they have a

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Speaker 1: young child at home too. They've got a young baby

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Speaker 1: at home and it's just time for him to take

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Speaker 1: a step back and good for him. Uh, kudos to

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Speaker 1: Marquis Goodwin for making that decision. And he'll be back

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Speaker 1: in the league, I'm sure in twelve months time. We

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Speaker 1: also have Kim Jones from the NFL Network. She's also

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Speaker 1: contributed NFL Total Access, NFL Game Day Morning. She's coming

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Speaker 1: on clock, She's coming on in the two o'clock hour,

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Speaker 1: and she's said time and again we had her on

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Speaker 1: best offseason in the National Football League. We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to catch up with Kim once again as well. So Brownie,

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Speaker 1: we're coming here, and I did. I am on the

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Speaker 1: habit now of checking my phone for exactly what day

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Speaker 1: it is when we when we signed on the air.

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Speaker 1: I think I got it right. It's we remember this

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Speaker 1: nafu we had last week, right, it is the third

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Speaker 1: It's it's July thirtieth, Thursday, July thirtieth. Okay, there you go.

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Speaker 1: The days are a blur to me, and I tell

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Speaker 1: you it was a real treat for me and our

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Speaker 1: listeners to have you come to the startling realization on

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Speaker 1: the air last week that it was Wednesday and not Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Just seeing Steve's just seeing Steve's mental processing when he

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Speaker 1: best part though, was secondarily you were worried about having

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Speaker 1: it is after the all three they get tested three times.

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Speaker 1: an ever changing thing. Cole Beasley's on the injury He's

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Speaker 1: doesn't hasn't everybody in Florida already had the virus? Well,

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Speaker 1: Got all that stuff going on. Also, we were gonna

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Speaker 1: Everybody does it right, everybody's got conference calls. He's interesting

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Speaker 1: get him his name. We're gonna tell me who it was.

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Speaker 1: probably like from now when Steve's forgotten all about John

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Speaker 1: well enough as to how a Tasker's Teammate works? Like

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Speaker 1: draft choice aj Epinessa. Now it's possible that's reduced to

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Speaker 1: a two man competition between Murphy and Addison and they

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Speaker 1: just kind of bring Epinessa along and see how quick

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Speaker 1: he can be on the uptake before they kind of

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Speaker 1: blend him in, which is kind of how they've handled

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Speaker 1: some rookies from time to time. There have been exceptions.

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Speaker 1: You know, Tradavious White jumped right into the starting lineup

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Speaker 1: from the word go, but that was year one of

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Speaker 1: a complete rebuild under coach McDermott. It's a little bit

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Speaker 1: different now. It's harder for rookies to get on the field.

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Speaker 1: Ed Oliver was the ninth pick in the draft and

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Speaker 1: he had trouble getting on the field right away. So

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Speaker 1: whether it's a two man competition or a three man

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Speaker 1: competition there remains to be seen. But it wouldn't surprise

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Speaker 1: me if they let F and s to be part

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Speaker 1: of that rotation and see if the cream rises to

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Speaker 1: the top. You're right, and I think our listeners are

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Speaker 1: right with us. You think it's defensive line. I think

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Speaker 1: it's wide receivers. Our listeners are split right down the

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Speaker 1: middle as well. Thirty one point seven percent say wide

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Speaker 1: receiver and thirty one point three percent say defensive line,

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Speaker 1: twenty eight percent say cornerback. So it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: horse race between wide receiver and defensive line cornerbacks right

448
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Speaker 1: behind them. People know that. How I think how important

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Speaker 1: that other cornerback spot is for this defense to continue.

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Speaker 1: It's high ranking the defensive line. I think whoever shakes

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Speaker 1: out in that position battle, all of those guys are

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Speaker 1: going to see time and the best guys are going

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Speaker 1: to play, so they don't feel it's I think I'm

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Speaker 1: just guessing the people who say cornerback or wide receiver

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Speaker 1: don't feel the defensive lines as urgent as those other

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Speaker 1: two positions, and certain as wide receivers not urgent either. No,

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Speaker 1: because there's top three or set. Yeah, you're really just

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Speaker 1: talking about spot four or five and six on the roster,

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Speaker 1: which is why I kind of gravitated over to defensive

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Speaker 1: line because you're talking about two starting jobs. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: have far greater importance on the fortunes of this team

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Speaker 1: than receiver four or five and six unless you hit

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Speaker 1: a COVID outbreak at the in the wide receiver room.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's why I kind of went that way.

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Speaker 1: And let me say this too, Steve, you can make

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Speaker 1: a compelling case for other because you've got you've got

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Speaker 1: a kicker job that is completely up for grabs, despite

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Speaker 1: Stephen Hauschka's career. You've got a punter job up for grabs.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I think we we all heard the mantra

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Speaker 1: from Brandon Bean and coach McDermott in their season wrap

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Speaker 1: up press conference back in January. Special teams did take

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Speaker 1: a step forward in twenty nineteen, but they've got some

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Speaker 1: ground to cover. They still have to get better. And

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Speaker 1: I think they were pointing directly at the kicking game.

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Speaker 1: I think so too, And I think not only a

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Speaker 1: kicking game, but also the coverage game. You bring in

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Speaker 1: a guy like like aj Klein, like Ada Kevitch, Meta Kevitch,

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Speaker 1: you got Andre Robert Stones, you got Taiwan Jones back

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Speaker 1: in the fold, I mean, they went out and got

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Speaker 1: some guys. Those guys are legit Pro Bowl caliber special

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Speaker 1: teams hardcore guys, and they don't and and they're not

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Speaker 1: and they're capable of football players, no question about Taiwan Jones.

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Speaker 1: You can get on the field once in a while,

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Speaker 1: but these guys have no qualms about being professional special

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Speaker 1: teams players. And that's going to raise the level of

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Speaker 1: the guys the rest of the guys that fill out

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Speaker 1: those spots. When you've got guys who are professional special

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Speaker 1: teams players covering kickoffs, covering punts, working on the punt

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Speaker 1: return team, working on the kickoff return team, the guys

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Speaker 1: who just fill in on one or maybe two of

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Speaker 1: those things, when you've got guys who are pros doing it.

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Speaker 1: They picked those guys up, you know, everybody. It raises

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Speaker 1: the level of intensity of preparation and certainly on game

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Speaker 1: day expectations. So I think it's a signal to the

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Speaker 1: rest of the roster. Hey, this is kind of important. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this guy will sign. This guy was signed to come

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Speaker 1: here and help our special teams unit. So pull on

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00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: your share of the rope too, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: that's right. And plus it tells young guys that like

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Speaker 1: there is a place for them if they can do it.

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Speaker 1: Darryl Johnson's a great example. He covered kickoffs last year

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Speaker 1: and punts like he was on special teams guys. Darryl Johnson,

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00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: it was a big, long, lean defensive end Week seventeen.

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00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: He comes down and he opened up the game with

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Speaker 1: a huge hit on the Jets player, and so it

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Speaker 1: was I think it really set well with him. That

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Speaker 1: gives him an extra added boost to get on the

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Speaker 1: roster because he can run cover some ground and he's

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Speaker 1: got a year under his belt where he's shown he

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Speaker 1: can really play special teams. I think that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a huge boost, and he he flies under the radar

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Speaker 1: with all these guys were talking about because he's a

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Speaker 1: second year player, was deep in the rotation last year.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got he might have a spot as

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Speaker 1: they move into training can right, it can change, but

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a hard guy to get

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Speaker 1: out of the roster. Yeah, we have something coming down

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00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: on the transaction wire in the NFL. It looks like

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00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: the Panthers released veteran kicker Graham Gano. Hard to tell

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Speaker 1: whether this is a salary cap savings move. They do

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Speaker 1: save two and three quarter million on his contract, and

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Speaker 1: they did also have another kicker on their camp roster

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Speaker 1: and Joey Sly. So interesting move there because Graham Gano

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Speaker 1: is money in the bank on kickoffs and putting him

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Speaker 1: through the end zone. He is a big leg kicker

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Speaker 1: always has been. So interesting move there, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there are going to be more to follow because a

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Speaker 1: lot of these rosters have to get from ninety to

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Speaker 1: eighty and we're gonna see some names that are very recognizable,

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Speaker 1: like Graham Ganot for some of these teams. Graham Gano

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Speaker 1: is gonna make two point seven five million for the

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Speaker 1: Panthers and this year he was he was that's the

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Speaker 1: ballpark number you're talking about. Or you know, Graham, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe he will take less to play for somebody else.

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Speaker 1: But although kickers have always and rightfully so. You look

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Speaker 1: at Buffalo, it's like, is there any place south that

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Speaker 1: needs a kicker? You know that play or a dome

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00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: that had needs a kicker? You know that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: So exactly, that's always a consideration with those guys, more

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Speaker 1: so than any other position on the team. I mean

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Speaker 1: that they need. They'd love nice weather or a dome

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00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: or a dome or a dome. So all right, Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker Chris Brown, We're here till three o'clock one, Bills

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to one of Bill's Live Steve Tasker Chris Brown.

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Speaker 1: What will be the most important position battle on the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills in training? Camper getting a lot of feedback,

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Speaker 1: and it is a dead heat between wide receiver at

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Speaker 1: thirty point eight percent and defensive line at thirty one

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Speaker 1: point two percent, four percentage points apart. That's kind of cool,

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00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: four tenths of a percentage point apart. And cornerback is

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Speaker 1: a close third at thirty point one, less than one

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00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: percentage point behind the leader depends on mind. Wow, that's

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Speaker 1: a that may be the all time greatest Twitter poll ever, Brownie,

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Speaker 1: That is airtight? All right? Well, the tweet sheets brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment movers

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. Is there anything interesting on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet in this horse race? We got of a

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00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: twitter poll? Well, Jack says that he voted defensive line

561
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: with Star out and the what is he's saying here?

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00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: With Star out and the departures and additions up there,

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Speaker 1: it will be interesting to see who takes over as

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Speaker 1: starting nose tackle and left defensive end if not Addison.

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00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: But don't sleep on the kicker and punter battles. The

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Speaker 1: Bills brought in competition for both the incumbents as they

567
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: struggled some in twenty nineteen. Yeah, I'm where is other

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Speaker 1: right now? Steve in the voting others got eight percent seven.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised it's not higher because you have a lot

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Speaker 1: of choices there. You could pick right tackle. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Cody Ford is expected to win that job. But what

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Speaker 1: happens if all of a sudden we get out to

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Speaker 1: camp and he's lining up at guard, like what happened there?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I don't think that's going

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Speaker 1: to happen, but you know, Tye and Secky may have

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Speaker 1: something to say about that. That that position they brought in.

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Speaker 1: They brought in a J. Klein too, and you think,

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Speaker 1: but well, you know, I see Klein as the base

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Speaker 1: strong side guys. He's Lorenzo Alexander. He's Lorenzo, but he

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00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: might get competition from Corey Thompson, who's been here a

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Speaker 1: couple of years. You know, so, uh, that is a

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Speaker 1: position battle you can probably file under other but yeah,

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Speaker 1: kicker and punter alone I thought might help with D

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Speaker 1: getting more of the vote, but maybe not right. Also,

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Speaker 1: Paul Kawayaikowski says on the tweet sheet Wide Receiver won't

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Speaker 1: really be a battle. The top three or pretty set.

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00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: The backups bots will have interest. D line will rotate

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00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: a lot and mostly decided, mostly decided with Star out

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00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: cornerback two will be a dog fight. The winner has

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00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: to play better than in nineteen and must be able

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Speaker 1: to stay healthy. And that's I will agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I think that spot more so than the deep because

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00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: the defensive line is deep. We've said it, it's versatile,

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Speaker 1: we've said it. There's gonna be like eight guys, maybe

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Speaker 1: even nine guys who rotate through there. There, you're kind

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Speaker 1: of I mean, for everything, and not Jerry hugheswithstanding, notwithstanding,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have a Khalil Mack. You know,

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Speaker 1: we don't have Jadeveon Clowney. We don't have you know,

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt or one of the Bosa brothers. We've got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys who are good, and they play

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Speaker 1: extremely well together, and they play in a great system

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00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: and their discipline. Yeah, it's kind of being some of

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00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: the parts right exactly. But corner that guy opposite Tredavious

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Speaker 1: if he can, if we can find a shutdown guy

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00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: over there, this defense is really gonna be good. I mean,

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00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the Bills defense and everybody else, even

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00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers with their massive front that they've got,

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Speaker 1: the Bills are going to be a force to be

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Speaker 1: reckoned with. Here's what makes that second cornerback spot so

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Speaker 1: compelling in terms of the position battle between Norman and Wallace.

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Speaker 1: You've got Norman, who is a full scale redemption project

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Speaker 1: here in Buffalo after two down years in Washington. This

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Speaker 1: guy has probably got I mean, he had a chip

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Speaker 1: on his shoulder the day he stepped into the league

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Speaker 1: as a fifth round draft choice and got all the

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Speaker 1: way to being a franchise player and a Pro Bowl talent,

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Speaker 1: and then it kind of went the other direction for

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Speaker 1: him after he got to Washington. And so there's a

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Speaker 1: lot to be reclaimed there as that's serving as motivation

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Speaker 1: for Norman and trying to win that job. But then

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Speaker 1: you got a guy in Levi Wallace, Okay, who probably

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Speaker 1: doesn't pass the eyeball test, has been doubted since he

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Speaker 1: started playing football, was a walk on in Alabama, didn't

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Speaker 1: start until his senior year, didn't get drafted, and all

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00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: he did was coming here and win a starting job

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Speaker 1: by the end of his rookie season, held onto it

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Speaker 1: his second year, beating out a veteran who's a former

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Speaker 1: first round draft choice and Kevin Johnson, and now is

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Speaker 1: gonna face Norman and he's probably sitting there going, oh,

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Speaker 1: you still don't believe I can get the job done.

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Speaker 1: So what makes this competition so compelling is the fact

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Speaker 1: that you have two guys that are have so much

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Speaker 1: fuel to put on their their respective fires. Those guys

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Speaker 1: are gonna be laying it out there every single day

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Speaker 1: at a level that may not be matched at any

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Speaker 1: other position on the field for the Bills. And then,

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00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: to take it a step further, steve that position is

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00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: critically important for this team's past defense because who's gonna

639
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: see more balls come in their way than anyone anybody

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Speaker 1: who's lined up opposite Tredavious White because they're I throw

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Speaker 1: it over there, right. Not not only that, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a spot where, like we said, defensive line, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: rotate through wide receiver. You're gonna be the third you're

644
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Speaker 1: talking about the third, fourth or the fourth, fifth, sixth

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Speaker 1: guy on the roster. Corner you're gonna see what snaps

646
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Speaker 1: guy that's on the field sixty five seventy plays a week. Yeah,

647
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna see every single snap of defense if he

648
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Speaker 1: can stay healthy. And that's that's big. It's really big.

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Speaker 1: And and for that reason, I think it's gonna be

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00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: a pivotal spot. Um. You know, still people think the

651
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: defensive line is gonna better. They're almost at thirty three

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Speaker 1: percent now. Corner is has taken over wide receiver, probably

653
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: because you're sitting there talking about it. But that's that's

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Speaker 1: where we're at. And I think the corner spot is

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00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: the most important of those three we listed on our

656
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: on our poll, but you can pick your own if

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00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: you want to and go down the list. But I

658
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: just think that corner spot is so critical to the

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Speaker 1: success of this defense, really putting it over the top

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00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: as as just a hard defense to score on. I

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00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: can't wait to see him find a guy who can

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00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: really play, and hopefully it's You know, if Josh Norman

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Speaker 1: can recapture what made him one of the best corners

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Speaker 1: in NFL four years ago, that's big. That's really big.

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Speaker 1: And I think the reason that not many of the

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Speaker 1: fans voted that way at the outset here for corner

667
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: is because I think they look at the secondary and

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00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: they just check the box because they've been so good

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Speaker 1: the last three years. They're like, ah, competition, what does

670
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: it matter That secondary takes care of itself. We don't

671
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: have to worry about that. And I get it, because

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00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: that really is what Coach McDermott and Leslie Frasier have

673
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: hung the defensive success on the talent and playmaking ability

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00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: of that secondary, and so I think for a lot

675
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: of Bills fans it's almost taken for granted and just

676
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: kind of goes by the board. You know, Wow, what

677
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: does it matter if it's Norman or if it's Wallace.

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00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: We've seen Wallace play, he's pretty good. Norman used to

679
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: be a pro bowler. We got other three guys that

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00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: are like Pro Bowl caliber. We're fine. And that's why

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00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: I don't think it gets probably as much as the

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00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: vote or as consideration as it should, right. I think

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00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: that aspect of the defense as much as we talk

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Speaker 1: about and here in Buffalo, I think it's it may

685
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: be the heartbeat of the whole shooting match here playoffs

686
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: two out of the last three years. Everything. I mean,

687
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: he goes that deep. You'll have the guys from Pro

688
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: Football Focus will come on and they'll tell us there's

689
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: a big debate, but they think at the analytics people

690
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: think that it's coverage more than pressure that makes a

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Speaker 1: great defense. And you know, all of us we think,

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00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, guy gets the sack, that's a whole, that's

693
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: the whole kitten kaboodle. But the coverage is analytics people

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00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: say it's much more important. So I think that's I

695
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: think that secondary for the Buffalo Bills. I think Sean

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00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: McDermott believes that. I think they've built their defense that

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00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: way from the get go. I mean, the first two

698
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Speaker 1: guys they signed were the safeties, Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde,

699
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: and they've been top five ever since. I'm going to

700
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: read this one on the tweet sheet from Bill. He says,

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Speaker 1: d Line, the other position groups are pretty much said

702
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: as to who the starters and depth players will be.

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00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if I completely agree with that. Lots

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00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: of new pieces on the D line, and it'll be

705
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: a tough process to see who works best together and

706
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: who makes an impact where because of the training camp

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00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: this year. Now, that's a good point. You've got a

708
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: lot of new pieces on that D line and jobs

709
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 1: starting jobs could very well be determined by who works

710
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: best off one another. I mean there are player combinations

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00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: to be considered here. If you've got a defensive end

712
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: and a defensive tackle that just don't mesh with their

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00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: pre snap communication and kind of playing off one another

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Speaker 1: and having to feel like, oh, he's stunt, he's stunting,

715
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna loop, I'm gonna loop here. You know. It's

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00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: those kinds of split second decisions that mean the difference

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Speaker 1: between getting the quarterback on the ground and just getting

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00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: a hand in his face. So those things are taken

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00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: into consideration in a big way by coaches when they're

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Speaker 1: deciding who's lining up with the starting unit and who's

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Speaker 1: lining up with who. You know, I wonder too, because

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Speaker 1: we don't know how easy it's gonna be or I

723
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: think not easy. I think it's going to be incredibly

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Speaker 1: difficult for the coaching staff to evaluate even the new

725
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: guys would come in who they've got some experience with,

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00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: all those guys from Caroline and all that stuff, AJ

727
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: Klein as well, who they've been gone from for a while,

728
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Speaker 1: and but to evaluate. And we talked about this at

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00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: length on Monday and Tuesday and a little bit yesterday

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Speaker 1: about the experimentation that goes on with that D line

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Speaker 1: where these guys are going to play. If you've got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of versatile guys, you got a lot of

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Speaker 1: things you got to iron out to find out the

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Speaker 1: best combinations and where they're gonna play, and how they're

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00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: gonna play, and who they're gonna play with, and who's

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Speaker 1: gonna be lined up where when they play with those guys, right,

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Speaker 1: and would this four be good here or would this

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Speaker 1: other four be better in a different situation. They they

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00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: it's it's a chemistry test, right with skill sets and abilities.

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Speaker 1: And if there's one advantage that they have, it's that

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Speaker 1: Eric Washington knows how Addison and Butler, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Carolina guys that he coached, how they work, and coach

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Speaker 1: Frasier knows how Trent Murphy and Jerry Hughes and Harris

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00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: and Phillips work. So you hope they can put their

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00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: two heads together and find the combinations that work. Absent

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00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: preseason games to see them function, and with limited practice

747
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: this time here, so hopefully they can kind of put

748
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: their heads together at least make the best educated guesses

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Speaker 1: as to what we'll fit. All right, A lot more

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Speaker 1: to come, Steve Tasker Chris Brown here till three o'clock.

751
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: Coming up a one Marquis Good when former Buffalo Bill

752
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: has opted out of the season with the Philadelphia Eagles.

753
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: Now his story is pretty compelling and it it'll give

754
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: you some empathy for these guys who are saying are

755
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: sitting out this football season. He's coming up at one o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Chris Brown. One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health,

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00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio back at you with

758
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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Chris Brown. We've been asking you what you

759
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: think about the Buffalo Bills training camp battles. What's going

760
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: to be the most important position battle on the Bills

761
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: in training camp? Wide receiver, cornerback, defensive line or something else.

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00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: Thirty two percent of you think it's going to be

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00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: the defensive line, and thirty percent I think it's going

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00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: to be quarterback, cornerback, and thirty percent think it's going

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00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: to be wide receivers. This is as close as thirty

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Speaker 1: point two for wide receivers, thirty point five for corner

767
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: and thirty two point one for defensive We have ever

768
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: had a Twitter poll that close, and there's not that's

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00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: not only the only opinions out there. Seven point two

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Speaker 1: percent of the people have something other in mind. And

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Speaker 1: we get started with that with Mattie Meltz right on

772
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: right on the tweet sheet, he says it's right tackle,

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Speaker 1: right guard. Cody Ford is the difference in decent O

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00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: line to get be a great offensive line depending on

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00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: what he does and at what position they put Cody

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00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: forward and he's right m this offensive line. Cody Forward's

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00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: a good tackle, he's a great guard. If you can

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00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: find a great tackle and move Cody Forward into guard

779
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 1: your offensive line, I think is that much better. That's

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00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: my view of that of that, But who are not

781
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: putting who are you putting it? Right tackle? If Cody

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00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: forward to guard? Are you going with Tyan Secki, who's

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00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: gonna be thirty six years old and missed about half

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00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: the season last year, had trouble staying healthy on a

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00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: roster that was ridiculously healthy. Otherwise, or do you give

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Speaker 1: you know, Darryl Williams a chance, the free agent signe

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00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: from Carolina who has played a lot of tackle in

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00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: his career for Carolina, but do mostly as an injury

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00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: fill in, which has been frequent down there the last

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00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: few years. Because even Brandon Bean, I think said, and

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Speaker 1: I apologize if I don't have this assigned correctly, but

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Speaker 1: I believe at one point Brandon Bean did say that

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Speaker 1: Darryl Williams is at his best as a guard, like

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00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: that is where he can maximize his abilities most effectively.

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Speaker 1: He can play tackle. He's kind he's kind of similar

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00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: to Cody Ford's. He's ideally a guard but can't play tackle. Yeah,

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00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: I think, if you know, all things being equal, if

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00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: they could get the best out of everybody, I think

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Speaker 1: Inseci is the best right tackle they've got. Although you're right,

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Speaker 1: he's you know, he's nine thousand years old, he's he's

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00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: thirty six. That's that's big. But he played extremely well

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00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: at right tackle last year he's built for it. Um.

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00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:20,959
Speaker 1: He just he he's mobile enough, he's got long reach,

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00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: he's he's got everything you want out of that position.

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00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: And you've got other guys that are, you know, possibilities.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I mean he's thirty four. He turns

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00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 1: thirty five on October though, right, he's not that old.

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00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: But Darryl Williams, who's think about Daryl Williams though they

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00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: say he's a guard but he's six six three thirty uh,

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00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: six year man, he's got you know, this is a

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Speaker 1: huge individual. Trey Adams, the rookie out of Washington. He's

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00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 1: six eight three eleven. He's got a huge reach, offensive tacker.

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00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: Victor Silaco, he's six six three twenty, he's got one year.

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Speaker 1: He's out of Oklahoma State. They've got some guys to

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00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: check out. Evan Bain. They brought in his fifth year

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00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: guy out of Missouri, six three three twenty one. More

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00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 1: of a guard center type. Right. Then you've got Ryan Bates,

818
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: who's the same kind of thing. Um. So they've they've

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00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: got some options there. But make no mistake, they've you know,

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00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: uh they you know, Dion Dawkins, Cody Ford tie and

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Speaker 1: Secky Brandon Walton, who is also an undrafted rookie free

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Speaker 1: agent out of Florida Atlantic. So we'll see, we'll see

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Speaker 1: lots more to talk about. Hey coming up right after

824
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: the break mark. He's a good one. You'll you'll enjoy

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Speaker 1: hearing from him. He has opted out of the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty season. He's gonna be on us on with us

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Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live. We are presented by Kalidah

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Speaker 1: Health and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Oh time, Oh

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Speaker 1: by Steve Plasterer's dome. That's done, that's not at all

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Speaker 1: time one of those lives. Steve Tasker, Chris Brown here

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Speaker 1: till three. We're momentarily going to speak on the phone

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Speaker 1: with Marquise good One, who has a Buffalo Bills player

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00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: for from twenty thirteen to twenty sixteen. He's played seven

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Speaker 1: seasons in the National Football League with the Bills forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers. This would have been his first season with

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. But he is opting out, and he

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Speaker 1: has received a lot of pushback from casual fans about

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00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: opting out trolls on social media. P trolls on social

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Speaker 1: Media's exactly right, and his story is one that is unique,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to get too far into it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how comfortable he'll be talking about because

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00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: it involves tragedies and his wife's his wife and newborn children.

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00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 1: They have one child and it has been a struggle

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Speaker 1: for them to get and he is not going to

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Speaker 1: take any chances. He has some regrets and how he

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00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: handled his wife and previous pregnancies, and he is now

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Speaker 1: choosing to sit out the National Football League season for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Is going to join us here in a

849
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: few moments, Brownie. We've got training camp starting all over

850
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: the National Football League, all kinds of question marks that

851
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: are flying around. What do you think I mean, we

852
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: all we've come to this conclusion in our discussions on

853
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: this show and people around the league and watching other

854
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: sports as well. It's gonna come down to the discipline

855
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: of the players. And for the first time, I think

856
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: in my memory, it's going to come down to the

857
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: discipine of the players off the field more so than

858
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: on the field, that is going to make or break

859
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: this NFL season. I think that's an unusual place to

860
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: be for all of us. I saw a very interesting

861
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: quote from and it was it was attributed to an

862
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: NFC team executive. You know, that's all they gave us.

863
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: But that guy said, we in the NFL, we're not

864
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: operating in a bubble, but we have to act like

865
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: we are based on how they carry themselves away from

866
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: their team facilities. Uh, that's what they're gonna have to do.

867
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to almost act like they're in a

868
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: bubble even though they're not. Right. And and we've we've

869
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: had a couple of laughs about college football and uh,

870
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know, now, they've got

871
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: college football players that are opting out of the twenty

872
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: twenty season of Virginia Tech. Uh, cornerback, his name's Caleb

873
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: or I'm sorry, that's not Caleb Brantley. Yeah, um, Caleb

874
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: Farley or college football season. He's gonna get ready for

875
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: the draft. I would think there's more players like this

876
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: who would wh would be more apt to just start

877
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: training for the draft, getting ready for the combine as

878
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: if it was going to happen normally. I don't know

879
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: that it will. It's pretty early in the off season.

880
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: Uh for this to have gone completely away in that

881
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: amount of time, But I don't makes sense to me,

882
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: I guess I get it if you're if you've got

883
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: a chance, and if you have and most of these

884
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: guys do know pretty well if they're gonna get a

885
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: shot to play in the National Football League. How good

886
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: a shot you think you've got may depend on whether

887
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: you play or do not play in the college football

888
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: season or whatever that college football season looks like. But Brownie,

889
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: you and I have talked about this. I don't know

890
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: how colleges are going to get it done. You can

891
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: say what you want about the NFL and how unlikely

892
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: it is, it's ten times more unlikely at the college

893
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: level to get a football season in Well, you saw it.

894
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: The ACC did. They announced a ten game conference schedule.

895
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 1: Conference only they well, and they pulled in Notre Dame,

896
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: who was who is who is an ACC member for

897
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: basketball and other sports, but was not for football. They

898
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: were still independent, and they convinced Notre Dame to take

899
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: their NBC television money and put it in the ACC

900
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: pot in exchange for playing a full conference schedule and

901
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: being eligible to play for the conference title and to

902
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: play in the Orange Bowl in the ACC spot should

903
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: they win the conference. Right, That is seismic, Yeah, that's it,

904
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: but it is. It is indication on how much COVID

905
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: has kind of turned the normal way of doing business

906
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: in college football upside down. I mean these are desperate measures.

907
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: I mean that's a football powerhouse making a seismic move

908
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: after refusing any and all advances to join a conference.

909
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: But here they are. They have been belligerently independent for centuries,

910
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: right for a century, right for football, and rightfully so.

911
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: They are a national team. They have always been a

912
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: national team. They have a national following. You don't have

913
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: to be an alumni to love Notre Dame football. When

914
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: I was growing up and it was on national television

915
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: at almost every weekend, they were always expected to and

916
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: this hasn't changed too much. They were always expected to

917
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: challenge for the national title. Right but here, and I'll

918
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: take it a step further, Steve. For me, growing up

919
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: in the New York metropolitan area, there was no college

920
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: football team to follow. Rutgers might as well have been

921
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: the Sisters of the poor. They were awful. The teams

922
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: that we used to see on television every week because

923
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: there was no real college football team in New York

924
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: was basically Penn State or Boston College. That's what we

925
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: got every week until Notre Dame was on national television,

926
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: and then they were the team that everybody followed. Steve

927
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: Taster and Chris Brown here till three o'clock. We were

928
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: pleased to be joined on the line right now by

929
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: our guest Marquis good One. He was a Buffalo Bill

930
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: from two thirteen to twenty sixteens, played seven years in

931
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: the NFL. This would have been his first season with

932
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, but he is opting out. Marquis, Steve Tasker,

933
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: and Chris Brown here in Buffalo, Thanks so much for

934
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: joining us. How are you and your family doing during

935
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: the pandemic? Are you guys safe and well so far?

936
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: How you guys doing, man, I'm doing well. My family

937
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: and I are safe. We're at home, quarantined and just

938
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: enjoying each other's presence. Yeah, I watched your YouTube video

939
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: when you made your announcements you're going to opt out,

940
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: and of course you've gotten pushedback at from people and

941
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: trolls on on on Twitter and social media and all

942
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: of that. Give people as as much as you're comfortable

943
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: doing in this setting, Marquis, give people an insight as

944
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: to what was behind your decision. Basically, my baby, um,

945
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: my wife and I we've experienced since I left Buffalo,

946
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: I've gotten married, have the opportunity married my best friend

947
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: who I met in college, Morgan Snow now Morgan Goodwin.

948
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: We got pregnant in two seventeen and twenty and eighteen.

949
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 1: We experienced three three losses of babies, and we were

950
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: blessed this year February nineteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty with

951
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: our rainbow baby Murray. And you know that's where we

952
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: are right now. Congratulations to you. And that's and that

953
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: really is the reason behind you had some regrets about

954
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: how you handled the previous pregnancies, did you not? Yeah? Man,

955
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: So twenty seventeen, it was a struggle for me because

956
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, I had just went to a new team

957
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: coming from Buffalo. I was with the forty nine ers,

958
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: and my wife and I we had our first lost November.

959
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: And you know that's Crunchtown during the season, that's the

960
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: teams you remember in November in December, right, so you know,

961
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: crunchtomp football. And we weren't doing that well and so

962
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: my wife was experiencing some complications and we rushed it

963
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: to the ear. We got there and we end up

964
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: prematurely delivering our first baby, and we both decided that

965
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: it was best for me to go and playing the game,

966
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: which was four or five hours later, because we didn't know,

967
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: you know, what would be the result if I were

968
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: not suplaying the game. I've never voluntarily missed the game,

969
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: so regardless of what it was, I've missed my great

970
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: grandmother's burial. I've missed so many birthdays, weddings, anniversaries just

971
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: because the football was my priority. So I ended up

972
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: going and playing the game, scored my first push down

973
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: of the season, and we got our first win of

974
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: the season. But I just felt so empty because you know,

975
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: I left my wife at the hospital by herself to

976
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: grieve by herself after just losing our baby. In I

977
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: told myself that I never would do that again to her,

978
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: so I never would choose football over her again. And

979
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: yet a year later, the same thing kind of happened,

980
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: and you made good on that, right, Yeah, same thing.

981
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 1: Twenty and eighteen, we end up getting pregnant with twins,

982
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: and in November of two eighteen, the same exact thing happened.

983
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: We experienced complications the same week and the same gestational

984
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: period of pregnancy. We end up rushing to the hospital

985
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: or at this time, I'm in Tampa, Florida getting ready

986
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: to play against the Buccaneers, and I got a call

987
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: from her and she said she was feeling like she

988
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: or she that she was having serious cramps and contractions.

989
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: So my grandmother, who was there monitoring her while I

990
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: was on the way games and at practice and you know,

991
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: at work, rushed her to the hospital then. And that's

992
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: when I got the call. So I immediately got on

993
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: the plane and I flew back from Tampa to go

994
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: comfort and control my wife. And we end up losing

995
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: twins then. So I made good on my promised them

996
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: to myself and I bowed to you know, never do

997
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: it again, man, you know, so we end up getting

998
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: family first. Man. Yeah, We're talking with Marquis Goodwin, former

999
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills wide receivers and this about to head into

1000
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: his seventh year or eighth year in the National Football League. Marquis,

1001
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: this was going to be your first season with the

1002
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. How have they handled your opt out and

1003
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: what kind of feedback have you gotten from the team

1004
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: that you're supposed to play for this year? And I've

1005
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: gotten great feedback from the Eagles. The organization has been

1006
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: nothing less than supportive. My head coach Doug Peterson, great character,

1007
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,479
Speaker 1: a great guy. Can't wait to play for him because

1008
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: he's been super supportive, as well as my receiver coach

1009
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: and Howie o GM. So I'm thrilled that I'm a

1010
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: part of such a great organization. As you know, Buffalo

1011
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: Bills was a great organization as well when I was

1012
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 1: over there. You know, I just I just look forward

1013
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: to going up to Philly at some point and being

1014
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: able to put on that midnight green uniform. But until

1015
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: covid Um nineteen has been resolved, I think it's best

1016
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: that I remain at home and protake my family. Yeah,

1017
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: and and knowing you're at peace with that decision, just

1018
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: just listening to you, Marquis, do you still believe, knowing

1019
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: the passion you have for this game, that there might

1020
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: be a couple of times between now and you know,

1021
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: December where you'll have that little itch that you want

1022
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: to scratch. I mean, you know you're doing the right

1023
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: thing by your family here, but still knowing how professional

1024
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: football players tick, I gotta believe there might be a

1025
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: couple of week moments where you're where you're just scratching

1026
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: and you know, climbing up the walls a little bit

1027
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: because you're not playing. Right man, I'm walking around the

1028
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: house with my cleats on right now. I'm ready to go.

1029
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: How you guys are wired though? Man? Yeah, Man, it's

1030
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: gonna be. It's gonna be, definitely, it's it's gonna be

1031
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: hard to scratch. But it's something that's necessary and it's

1032
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: a no brainer. I have to do it, you know

1033
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: what I mean. I gotta honor my word in my

1034
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: vows that I made to not only Morgan and myself,

1035
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: but to guide on our wedding day, and which is

1036
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: to put her first through sickness and in hill for

1037
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: richer or for poor. So um, I have to honor that.

1038
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: And you've had obviously you've been in contact with your

1039
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: teammates now and your former teammates as well. How have

1040
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: they handled your opt out? Man? Speaking of former teammates,

1041
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander a Buffalo Bill Great, Eric Wood a Buffalo

1042
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: Bill Great. They've reached out to me, and you know,

1043
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: they've shown great support. I've gotten support from also my

1044
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: Eagle teammates and my past forty iron teammates. So everybody's

1045
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: been supportive, nothing but positive vibs, great energy, and you

1046
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: know they've commend to me on making that decision because

1047
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: a lot of them have said that, you know, they

1048
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: don't know if they can make the same decisions. So

1049
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: because we all have that great love for football, but

1050
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, um, I have to

1051
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: do what's best for my family and they all understand that.

1052
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: And then I mean, I don't want to focus on

1053
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: the negative here in Marquis, but you know, you got

1054
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 1: some some trolls on social media that, you know, feel

1055
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: it necessary to be critical at the drop of a hat.

1056
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: How how effective are you as a person in compartmentalizing

1057
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,959
Speaker 1: that its just dismissing it as as noise, I guess

1058
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: more than anything else. How good are you at you know,

1059
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: cycling that out of your thought process? Oh my goodness.

1060
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: I've had to build thick skin over the years. Uh.

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00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: When I first came into the league, I was a

1062
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: little sensitive to that because in Texas, you know, they

1063
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: we handle things a little differently when it came to sports,

1064
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: when it came to politics within sports, and so you know,

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01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: being a professional going into my eighth year, I've learned

1066
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: how the time to just ingest and game, get what

1067
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: I need from those conversations, and then just move on.

1068
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: You know, I really don't harp on it too long.

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01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: You know, I just take a deep breath. I may

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01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: respond to a couple of them with a super intelligent

1071
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: answer and then right, Mark Casey, what are your what's

1072
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: your gut feeling about this season? Certainly you know how

1073
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be in locker rooms. The players are gonna

1074
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: be gung ho to play every week and stay healthy.

1075
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: How hard is it going to be for the young

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01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: players and even veteran players like yourself to mind their

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01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: manners outside the building? I mean, because we feel like

1078
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: that's the key inside the building. They're gonna have protocols

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01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: that guys watching you, what's gonna happen away from the building,

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01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: And how do you think that's gonna go for veterans

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01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: and young guys. Yeah, honestly, that's the only thing that

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01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: I worried about. I really didn't worry about the teams

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01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: of protecting us players within the building. It's a matter

1084
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: of what about when the young guys go home and

1085
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: I'm or the veterans whoever you know, likes to go

1086
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: out in party or just to mingle. You know, you

1087
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: don't want to be cooped up in your else. But

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01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: it's a responsibility that everybody has to uphold and work together.

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01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: And so I just hope that every guy that's going

1090
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: out there to play and risking risking their lives for

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01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: people's entertainment, that they really really focus in, lock in

1092
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: and do what they need to do to keep everybody

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01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL safe so that games are able to

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01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: still be played if possible. But you know, I don't

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01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: foresee everybody just adhering to those rules because you know,

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01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: after a win coming from the East coast to the

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01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: West coast or the west coast of the East coast,

1098
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: like you're gonna want to go out and you know,

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01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: enjoy the win with some of your friends and family.

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01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: So I don't know how that looks, but I pray

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01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: and hope that they, you know, do do the right thing.

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01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: And Marquis, are you in Are you in Texas right now?

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01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, So you know, I don't need to

1104
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: tell you that that's been a hotspot um, you know,

1105
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: for COVID and everything. Yeah, I mean, how how concerning

1106
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: how disconcerting is it for you that the numbers are

1107
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: where they are in your home state, and and and

1108
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: how troubling is it for you that it's taken some

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01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: people an awfully long time to get the message and

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01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: do the right thing. Yeah, concerning you know, even people

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01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: that I love and care about, UM just just don't

1112
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: get it, you know what I mean, don't get how

1113
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: to sit down. And I think it's because, you know,

1114
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: most of the media is trying to minimize how serious

1115
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: because he is um And then they try to throw

1116
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: spats out like, oh, well, only one hundred and fifty

1117
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: thousand people out of you know, seven billion people have died.

1118
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: Only you mean to tell me those fifty thousand lives

1119
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: that were lost because of this disease didn't matter. So

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01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: I take that in an accounting, I take it very serious,

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01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: because you know, every life is important, So I wouldn't

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01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: want anybody go ahead, And I was just gonna say,

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01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: and speaking of that, how how is your sister doing?

1124
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 1: Because I have to believe she's in a high risk category, right, Yeah,

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01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: my sisters at a high risk. Even I'm at a

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01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: high risk with sickle cell and Adam, I haven't mentioned

1127
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: it because I don't want people to make it. I

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01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: don't want to make it just about a meet thing.

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01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: You know, I ultimately think that or I don't ultimately

1130
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: made this decision for my baby girl. You know, but

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01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: my sister, she's definitely high risk being having sereba palsy

1132
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: born with that. My mom is currently helping take care

1133
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: of for my sister's kids. She just had twins. So

1134
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, I have other family members at risk as well.

1135
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: You know, my grandmother has health issues that she deals with,

1136
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: my aunts, so my family is extremely affected by this.

1137
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to do the best that I can

1138
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: to help the check everybody. We're talking with Marquis Goodwin,

1139
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: former Buffalo Bill and current Philadelphia Ego opting out of

1140
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: the National Football League twenty twenty season and for good reason.

1141
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: What's your advice to the other players who call you

1142
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: and who say you know, you mentioned some guys like

1143
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could make that decision. Do

1144
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: you feel there's a percentage of guys who made me

1145
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: feel that like you did as a young player. It's

1146
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: probably the right thing to sit out for me and

1147
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: my family, but I just can't do it. How many guys.

1148
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: Do you think there are like that around the league?

1149
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: More than enough? And you know, I think it's a

1150
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:48,959
Speaker 1: conversation that probably could be had when having to choose

1151
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: your family or choose, you know, whether to go to

1152
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: work or your family. And for me, it's a no

1153
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: burning But you know, guys, we're raised differently and some

1154
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: guys just don't have the same opportuite me. I'm going

1155
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: into my eighth years, so financially I'm good. You know,

1156
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: I've saved my money over my seven years in the

1157
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: league so far, I've done really well with finances and

1158
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: I've been smart. So a lot of gods can't say

1159
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: the same. So I didn't make my money my money.

1160
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: My decision was not driven off of money. My decision

1161
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: was driven solely off of protecting my family and the

1162
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: safety and the health of my health and my family.

1163
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: So to the gods who are struggling with this, I

1164
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: just urge you to just make a decision that ultimately

1165
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: will help you and your family and whatever will make

1166
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: you happy. You still get an opportunity next year, you know,

1167
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: and you know, just just make the decision and just

1168
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: live with it. Make the decision that you were comfortable

1169
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: with living with well, I flash. I really don't have

1170
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: any other questions for you. I just I want to

1171
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: wish you and your family well, especially that little one

1172
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: you got at home now, and all the best to

1173
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: your sister who is she's just a shining light. I

1174
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: remember doing a story on that with you years ago,

1175
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: and we miss you up here in Buffalo. But I'll

1176
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: let Steve close things up. So it was really good

1177
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: to talk to you, and I hope you're yeah, go

1178
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: ahead and you'll send me from elm Wains from Buffalo

1179
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: because I really need Hey, he's Nashal Chicken wing Day.

1180
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: Just the other day I saw Yeah, Mark, Mark Keys,

1181
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: thank you so much for spending some time with it.

1182
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: We miss you, man, We wish you all the best,

1183
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: and we hope to see your return in twenty twenty

1184
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: one to the National Football League. Most death, nothing but

1185
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: love Mark. He's good. When Eagles wide receiver played four

1186
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: seasons for the Buffalo Bills between twenty and thirteen and

1187
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. He's played seven seasons in the National Football League,

1188
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: the Bills, the forty nine ers, and this was going

1189
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: to be his first season with the Philadelphia Eagles, and

1190
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: he is opting out for the reasons we've been discussing

1191
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: for the last half hour. What a great guy, great conversation.

1192
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: We appreciate, appreciate him coming on. He's just just having

1193
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: been around him, you know for the early part of

1194
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: his career. You know, you come across those people that

1195
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: just have like a good vibe, like a soul in them,

1196
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: that can just feel is pure, that kind of thing.

1197
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: That's who Marquise is. Just a real good soul. And

1198
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: I think this decision that he's made is a very

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01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: strong indication of that. And how about that, Steve, We're

1200
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: talking to him for fifteen minutes and we didn't know

1201
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: it had sim asthma, Yeah, ha asthma. He didn't even

1202
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: mention it. Yeah, he just kind of casually dropped that

1203
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: in more than fifteen minutes into the conversation. I think

1204
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: it just kind of speaks to how selfless he is

1205
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: as a person. Yeah, And that's why that's why guys

1206
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: like Marquis good One hang around for seven years, eight years,

1207
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,439
Speaker 1: ten years. They are the type of guys you want

1208
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: around your young players. He's got an incredible gift to speed.

1209
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: He can carry the football, he can play football like anything,

1210
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: but you can tell through his character his ability to

1211
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: make tough decisions like this one and to live with

1212
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: it and to articulate the reasons for it. You want

1213
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: guys like that on your team, Brownie, and that's why

1214
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: you know the Philadelphia Eagles will be lucky to have

1215
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,919
Speaker 1: him when he indeed comes into their locker room. Yeah,

1216
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: and I mean, I don't know if we've come across

1217
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe Nate Soldiers another candidate being a cancer

1218
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: survivor and having a son who had a bat with cancer,

1219
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: also being in a high risk category. But you want

1220
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: to talk about the Goodwin family and the high risk

1221
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: that they're dealing with, whether it's him with asthma, sickle cell,

1222
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: his sister who has cerebral palsy, his mom who's taken

1223
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: care of you know, her strans fortune, Yeah, you know,

1224
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: his other sister's kids, and then his newborn at home.

1225
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 1: I mean, holy cats. I mean, I mean he said

1226
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: it was still a tough decision for him because you

1227
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: know the passion he asked for football. But still in

1228
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: all when you when you read that laundry list, you'd

1229
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: completely understand why our thanks to Marquis for joining us

1230
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: on now tomorrow on the show, We're gonna have Darryl Talley,

1231
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: who's gonna come on. He's gonna talk a little bit

1232
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: about what this last installed moment of Captain's Circles prevented

1233
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: by Lebat, presented by Lebat Blue Light, and it's gonna

1234
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: return for the anticipated series finale Sunday, August second. It

1235
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: comes on at seven pm on the Bills YouTube channel

1236
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: and Facebook page as one of the Sabers YouTube channel

1237
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: on Facebook page. The episode features Bill's legend as I mentioned,

1238
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,799
Speaker 1: Darryl Talley, also Lorenzo Alexander who was mentioned by Marquis

1239
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 1: Goodwin in our last interview, and also Sabers Legends Stu

1240
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: Barnes and Danny Geary, Steve Tasher, Chris Brown. Here till

1241
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: three o'clock one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health and

1242
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's Radio Lives taster. Chris Brown's time

1243
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: for us to have some lunch. We're gonna go down

1244
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: the menu. We gotta pick one from column A, one

1245
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: for or one from column B. You don't have to

1246
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 1: like either of them, but you gotta pick one to

1247
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: have for lunch. And here we go. This is it

1248
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: NFL true false Number one, Brownie? Would your lunch? Oh

1249
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, NFL lunch? What do you want? What do

1250
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: you want for lunch? NFL? Here we go? Oh my gosh,

1251
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: here we go. Yeah, yeah, we'll do We're gonna do

1252
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: true a false later. Yeah, that's these are better. We're

1253
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: going to E three right well, No. No. Two is good.

1254
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,560
Speaker 1: Oh you change the rundown on me. JJ You're killing me.

1255
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 1: Here we go. You're way ahead of the game. All

1256
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: right here, audible? What would you rather have for lunch? Brownie?

1257
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: What what would you rather have for lunch? Who would

1258
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: you rather have? Joey Bosa or Miles Garrett? All right,

1259
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: so the contracts are part of that too, right, well,

1260
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: what are we talking? A difference of ten million dollars

1261
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: on multi year contracts? Big deal? You know we're talking? Yeah, Um,

1262
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett twenty five a year, Bosas twenty seven a year, Yeah,

1263
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: um Garrett is these are two different guys as I

1264
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 1: see it. Garrett is the physical freak, and while Bosa

1265
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: is certainly athletic, I don't think he comes close to

1266
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: Garrett in terms of bend and all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Where Bosa excels is with the technique. So this is

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Speaker 1: this is a kind of pick your poison kind of thing.

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01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: Do you want the guy with better technique than almost

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01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: anybody in the league, or do you want the guy

1271
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: that is just so physically gifted that he can make

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01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: plays kind of in his sleep if he wants um.

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01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: I've always respected the technicians because they're able to get

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01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: the job done even if they don't have rare athletic ability.

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01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: But there's there's a part of me that he wants

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01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: to go with the stud um. So I'm gonna take

1277
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: Garrett reluctantly because I openly wonder once Garrett's physical skills diminished,

1278
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: does that mean Boza is going to still be pretty

1279
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 1: effective player because his technique doesn't go south on you.

1280
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 1: That's That's what I'm wrestling with. But I'll take Garrett.

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01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 1: Here's my take on I think Miles Garrett is a

1282
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: is a guy that's his physical makeup makes him more rugged.

1283
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: I think Miles Garrett will last longer than Joey Boz.

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01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: I think Joey Bosa is gonna be a little bit

1285
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: like JJ Watt has been. He's gonna have a he's

1286
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: gonna have a meteoric rise, But I think injuries are

1287
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: gonna catch up with Joey. I think he's gonna I

1288
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: think he's gonna break down a little too fast. This

1289
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: game really tears you up when you play it. I

1290
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,560
Speaker 1: think Miles Garrett's built more for the long haul in

1291
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 1: this game, and I think so I'd take Miles Garrett.

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01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: I think Miles Garrett has a better chance of seeing

1293
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: the end of his contract than Joey Bosa does, at

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01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: least playing more games, or at least at least playing

1295
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: more games during that contract than Joey Bosa does. You

1296
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's why I would take Garrett.

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01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: So both of us will take Miles Garrett on that

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01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 1: menu item. And here's the second one second menu item.

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Speaker 1: Will Aaron Rodgers finish his career with the Green Bay

1300
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: Packers or with another team? I think that's another team.

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01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen this year. I don't

1302
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: think it happens next year. But if you're a team

1303
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: that needs a quarterback and Aaron Rodgers is available, I

1304
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: don't care if he's thirty eight years old. I mean,

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01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: he's one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the history

1306
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: of the game. You're gonna take him, give it a shot. Yeah, Yeah,

1307
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: because how many times have we seen it with other

1308
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks. I mean Peyton Manning to Denver, Uh, Tom

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01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:18,679
Speaker 1: Brady to Tampa, Philip Rivers to Indy, Philip Rivers to Indy.

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01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: I mean you can run down the list. Joe Montana

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01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: to the Kansas City Chiefs, Yeah, Brett Farve to Vikings Jets,

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01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 1: anybody else. Take those guys got deep in the playoff.

1313
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Montana got to the chief got the

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01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: Chiefs to the championship game and did as well. Um,

1315
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm totally with you. I think because the position is

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01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: so difficult to play, and particularly with a guy who

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01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: is as great as Aaron Rodgers has been, just like

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01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: Brett Farve, it becomes personal and they just can't look

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01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 1: at each other anymore. Yeah, he just can't stand to

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01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: go in the building anymore. You know where I can

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01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: you know where I can see Rogers going in a

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01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: couple of years, Yeah, Chicago, Chicago. I could see him

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01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: going to the Raiders too. Yeah, I could have that

1324
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: Graydon that system. Bruden would love it. Yeah, three eight

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01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: year old Rogers, he'd take him in a heartbeat. Yeah,

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01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: I think he would too. That's a good call. But yeah,

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01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think pack I think there's

1328
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: no way. I think Aaron Rodgers sees the end of

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01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: his career with the Green Bay Packers unless he decides,

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01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: you know what I've done. I'm I'm good because he's

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01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: made a pile of money. Oh yeah, So it's not

1332
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 1: about that. He may just say, you know what I wants,

1333
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: a packer, always a packer. I'm gonna go. And and

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01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he's that guy. Yeah,

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01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: I think if it doesn't end well there, he's gonna

1336
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: he's gonna want to play to show that he still

1337
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: can play and that Green Bay was wrong to get

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01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: rid of him. All right, I agree. I think it's

1339
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 1: another team. I think he does not finish his career

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01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 1: with the Green Bay Packers. All right. Here's another menu

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01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: item on the menu. Better player right now, right now?

1342
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney or JJ Watt. All right. So here's here's

1343
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 1: my issue with this. The drawback with JJ Watt is

1344
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: the are the injuries. I don't think there's any question

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01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: about that. Clowney is physically gifted, but so is Wat.

1346
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 1: And so I'm going with the guy that I know

1347
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 1: what I'm going to get from them every single week.

1348
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: And for me, that's what I know. That Watt is

1349
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: a nose to the grindstone kind of player. And yes

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01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 1: he's been injured, but I'm taking that guy because Clowney

1351
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:44,759
Speaker 1: is an enigma to me. I mean, so physically capable

1352
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: of physically taking over a game, and yet how often

1353
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 1: does it happen? Not often? And I mean we're talking

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01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: about a guy that was the first pick in the draft,

1355
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: but I just I can't get there. I just don't

1356
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, he reminds me of He reminds

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01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: me of Mario Williams, a guy capable of putting up

1358
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: monster stats because he is so physically gifted, but it's

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01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: just it's just not in his heart. He plays football

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01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: because he's physically gifted to be good at it. He

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01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: doesn't play football because he loves football, do you know

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01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: what I mean? He doesn't. Yeah, he plays. Yeah, he

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01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,600
Speaker 1: plays it because it's about him. Because yeah, because he

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01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: can make a lot of money doing it, which is

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01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: one of the reasons, one of the main reasons Mario

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01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: Williams played. I think jadeveon clowning is cut from that

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01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: same cloth. So I'm taking one because I want a

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01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: guy who's got a fire in the belly and plays

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01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: it because he loves it. I think I kind of

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01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: gotta go with you too. I think JJ is a

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01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: guy who you know and now get Granted, he may

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01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: get him for two games and he may be out

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01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: for fourteen, but the two games you get him for

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01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: the guys giving you a thousand miles per hour, he's

1375
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: got it. He's got the throttle bent and stuck open.

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01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: He's gonna go hard. I like that as well. Jadeveon Clowney,

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01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: there's a reason he's looking for his third team. He's

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01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: not even on a team. Think about that. Yeah, this

1379
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: guy was the first pick in the draft. Yeah he's Yeah,

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01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 1: there's questions there that can't be answered, and I don't

1381
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 1: like that. If I'm if I'm going to bring a

1382
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: guy in of that caliber that and for that month,

1383
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: for the money would cost. Now, if you give me,

1384
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: if you give me both those guys for free, I

1385
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: still take JJ. I still take JJ. I still take JJ.

1386
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm totally with you on that. JJ. Watt

1387
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: you may get, you may get half a season or

1388
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,560
Speaker 1: a quarter of a season because of injuries and you

1389
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 1: know all that, but the guy brings it and he

1390
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 1: plays hard every down. That's why he signed one hundred

1391
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: million dollars deal. And he's a three time defensive MVP

1392
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 1: of the league. So I'm I'm going with you on that.

1393
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: When JJ Watt, we're ordering the same thing for lunch here.

1394
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 1: All right, here's another one more likely? What's more likely

1395
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: for Todd Gurley this season? A bounce back year or

1396
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: another down year? Okay? I think I think we've all

1397
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 1: learned at this point in time that the greatest enemy

1398
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: for running backs is time. And we advanced the clock

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01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: another year. Who's he playing for now? He's not with

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01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: the Jets Falcons. That's right, He's with the Rams. So

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01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: now he's with the Falcons, So we've advanced the clock

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01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 1: another year. Everybody knows he's got an arthritic knee, and

1403
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: I would argue that the offensive line he's playing behind

1404
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: in Atlanta isn't as good as the one he played

1405
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: behind in LA So I just don't see a bounce

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01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: back year for him. I don't know if I would

1407
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: call it a down year, but I think it's gonna

1408
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: be a whole hum year for Todd Gurley. He might

1409
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: get some touchdowns, you know, they bring him in for

1410
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: goal line stuff. He can still do that, and you

1411
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: can still passes, but I just don't think he's cut

1412
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: out for the daily or the weekly grind of being

1413
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: RB one. I think he's got to have somebody right

1414
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: behind him to kind of keep the load off him

1415
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 1: if you want to get out of him what you're anticipating.

1416
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: And and I know it's a one year deal and

1417
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 1: he's going to be motivated, but right I just don't

1418
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, I'm I'm on that as well. I

1419
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 1: think Todd Gurley, Levion Bell or cautionary tales of why

1420
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: you don't give running backs the big money. It's too

1421
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 1: difficult to be good in that spot, not because there

1422
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: aren't a lot of guys who can do it, but

1423
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: because it choose you up fast. It is a sad

1424
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 1: it's a sad commentary on what that position in the

1425
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,839
Speaker 1: National Football League has become. I think it's so physically

1426
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: demanding that players can do it, and they can be

1427
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: really valuable to an NFL team, but by the time

1428
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 1: they're valuable, they're used up. I gotta I gotta ask

1429
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: you this, Steve, okay, because this is what I have

1430
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: a hard time figuring out. This is what doesn't compute

1431
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: for me. So I want to run this bastard. You

1432
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: watched firsthand Thurman Thomas carry the bulk of the load

1433
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: for the better part of ten years. I know he

1434
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 1: played twelve or thirteen, but he was carrying the load

1435
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: for nine or ten and you know, not a lot

1436
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 1: of drop off there from year one to ten. And

1437
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: he was playing at a time where you ran it

1438
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: a whole lot more than you do now. So can

1439
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: you explain to me when age twenty eight season for

1440
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 1: running backs became that drop off a cliff point in time? Like,

1441
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 1: when did that happen? Because back when you were playing,

1442
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders did it for ten years at an elite

1443
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 1: level as the main guy. Thurman did it at an

1444
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 1: elite level for ten years as the main guy. I mean,

1445
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 1: they're a countless number of guys when they ran the

1446
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 1: ball more than they do now. When did that happen?

1447
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: What caused that flip? Probably the money? Probably the money

1448
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: we're just breaking down now like like they never did before.

1449
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: And I know there were exceptions, I mean Earl Campbell

1450
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: and those guys are different too. Earl Campbell's different, Therm's different,

1451
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: It buries different and diff Peterson is the only guy

1452
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: that can think of nowadays. He's different, cat too, those

1453
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 1: Frank Gore. Those guys are different. They're wired different, and

1454
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: they play. They play the game because they want to

1455
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 1: play the game. And none of this others, the money,

1456
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: the contracts, the team, the logo on the helmet, none

1457
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: of that stuff matters. They just want to they want

1458
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: to carry the rock. They're different for that. And there's

1459
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: a handful of them out there. And you can name them,

1460
01:21:55,800 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, with one word, you know, Barry Thurman, am it.

1461
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they go by those kind of names. They're

1462
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: they're unusual. Gore. I mean, but I think that when

1463
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,560
Speaker 1: you get these guys and they want to be a

1464
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: running back and they're going to be a running back,

1465
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: when you get a certain level of comfort off the field,

1466
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 1: it's hard to be really uncomfortable on it. Yeah, I

1467
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I just I think about that

1468
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: sometimes and I just say to myself, you know, and

1469
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 1: I know you're talking. There's only a handful of those guys.

1470
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's too many in the league.

1471
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: Right now like that that are eight that are wired

1472
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: that way. Well, it's Frank Gore and Adrian Peterson, right,

1473
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 1: but I'm talking like I'm talking twenty six, twenty seven,

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01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 1: twenty eight year olds that are that are like that.

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01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: You know, they're just not well, they're rare. You don't

1476
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: always have him ending league all the time. Somebody will

1477
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: come along and they'll and he'll be great. It'll be great,

1478
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 1: and they'll they'll carry the rock for a decade, and

1479
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 1: it just seems like they're harder to find. Now, Yeah,

1480
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: they are, because when you find those guys, they get

1481
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: into that second contract, the level of comfort is there.

1482
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,799
Speaker 1: I think Thurman probably went through three or four contracts

1483
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 1: with the Bills. Yeah, that's and none of them were

1484
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 1: eight digits, right right, you know, so I think that's it.

1485
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: I think you get those guys get to a level

1486
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: of comfort off there. And plus, you know, Thurman for

1487
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: a good portion of his career, all the way up

1488
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 1: till the nineties, six ninety seven, you know, ten years

1489
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: in that team was the team was a rocket man. Yeah,

1490
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: it was fun to play. You didn't want to come

1491
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: off the field, I don't care, you know, you wanted

1492
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: the ball, and it was you were you were running

1493
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: a long way before you were getting hit, you know,

1494
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: and you were getting the ball thrown to you, and

1495
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 1: you're getting asked to do it. You had a lot

1496
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: to do, a lot of fun stuff. So he didn't.

1497
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, though I've said it a hundred times.

1498
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 1: I go back and you know, back in the day

1499
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: when we had VHS. I've still got the tapes. I

1500
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,600
Speaker 1: don't have any way to play them, but uh, you

1501
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 1: go pack and watch the old games, and it's startling

1502
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 1: what a beating Thurman took. It's startling because you don't

1503
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: see it nowadays like it was that it is now

1504
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 1: because you know, back then the guys you can look

1505
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: at it now, go back and look at those old taps.

1506
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 1: You can see one thing will be the difference. Look

1507
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: at the shoulder pads that I wore. Yeah, I know,

1508
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 1: look at the shoulder pads those guys wore. And Steve.

1509
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: That's another. That's another layer as to why it doesn't compute.

1510
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 1: Now you've got lighter, faster linebackers who don't pack the

1511
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: same punch as the middle linebackers of the eighties and nineties,

1512
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: and yet so you're saying so. Logic says to you,

1513
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: there should be more running backs with longer careers now

1514
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:51,719
Speaker 1: than there were then because of a multitude of factors.

1515
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: Smaller pads, smaller defenders, less of a workload right here,

1516
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 1: more thrown. Yeah, and yet here we are, and you're

1517
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: hard pressed to find a running back that can put

1518
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: together a twelve hundred yards season after age twenty eight.

1519
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Yeah, it's hard. I don't know,

1520
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: and I don't know that there have been that. Man,

1521
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 1: we have to go back and do a st Sean

1522
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 1: McCoy has done it, right, Who's done that? Who's done

1523
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: a thirteen hundred yard year after twenty eight? Yeah, I

1524
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: mean it's yeah, it's that's probably a short list. I

1525
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: don't know why it's so much harder to find now

1526
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 1: when you would think the circumstances present that sell themselves

1527
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 1: for greater success in that area. It's mind boggling. I

1528
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 1: can't figure it out. We're gonna take a break, We're

1529
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: gonna take come back. I got a short segment before

1530
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: the top of the hour. At the top of the hour,

1531
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 1: Kim Jones is gonna come on NFL dot Com, NFL

1532
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: Network reporters. She's a contributor to NFL Total Access. She's

1533
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: gonna come on. She knows the Bills and she's very

1534
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 1: interested in how they did this offseason, very high on

1535
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: with her expectation. We're gonna have her on once again

1536
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 1: before we before we hit training camp. Steve Tasker Chris

1537
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 1: Brown on One Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health.

1538
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live,

1539
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 1: Top of the Hours. Kim Jones coming on from NFL

1540
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: Network right now, Steve Tasker, Chris Brown. We've asked you

1541
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 1: our listeners, what would be the most important position battle

1542
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: on the Bills in training camp? And I always the

1543
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: wording of these things is always critical to mean, what

1544
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 1: is the most important position battle in the Bills training camp?

1545
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 1: Thirty three point three percent of your third of our

1546
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: respondent say it's gonna be the D line, thirty percent

1547
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: say it's gonna thirty one percent actually gonna say it's

1548
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 1: the cornerback opposite Tredavious White. Who's the most important. Twenty

1549
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 1: nine point two percent of you say it's going to

1550
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: be the wide receiver spot. We're getting a ton of responses.

1551
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 1: Brownie why don't you take us to the tweet sheet

1552
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 1: brought to us by Corrigan Moving systems. Go ahead, Yeah, so,

1553
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:56,919
Speaker 1: Brian says, all positions matter in camp battles, even the kickers.

1554
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 1: D line relies heavily on rotation and it's act. So

1555
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: I feel very secure there O line on the right side,

1556
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: the second or third running back, the second corner back,

1557
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 1: the second tight end, wide receivers four through six, kicker, punter,

1558
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: third quarterback, turner, and gunner. My god, he named the

1559
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: whole dang thing. Which one do you want? Buddy? He

1560
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: was all over the map. There's that pulled out a

1561
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 1: shotgun and just started shooting. You can find anybody on

1562
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: the street to be a gunner. Andrew Miller downplay your career, Steve,

1563
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,600
Speaker 1: well done right, Andrew Miller says this I saw. I

1564
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 1: say wide receiver because you've got Duke Williams, Robert Foster,

1565
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: and Ike Hodgens all fighting for two spots, maybe even

1566
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: one spot. I think that in Isaiah mackenzie and Asaia McKenzie.

1567
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 1: That's the thing about it for me, Brownie. The wide

1568
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 1: receiver room is crowded with guys who've got really good

1569
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: credentials and That's that's why I think it's gonna be

1570
01:27:56,240 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 1: really difficult to make those final cuts because special teams

1571
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: as a factor. You know, their skill sets are a factor,

1572
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: and just flat out how good they are are. Are

1573
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: they getting better? Is Robert Foster getting better? Is Isaiah

1574
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 1: Hodgen's going to be a guy who can come in

1575
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: and jump to the head of the line, you know?

1576
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 1: I just I just think that's it's really really intriguing

1577
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do with the bottom part of their

1578
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver. We didn't even mention Gabe Davis. I mean,

1579
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: I think he'd given Gabe Davis a pass. I think

1580
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: he is. I think he's got him as the four.

1581
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because he's saying for two spots. I don't

1582
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: disagree that it's going to be a supremely intense competition there,

1583
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: because essentially have seven guys fighting for two or three spots.

1584
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,799
Speaker 1: But I don't know if it's the most important because

1585
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 1: you got your top three receivers pretty much locked up.

1586
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 1: You're talking about lesser roles here. You want to argue,

1587
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 1: will it be the most intense training camp battle. I

1588
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 1: could get on board with that for a wide, but

1589
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 1: I don't know about most important, just because you're talking

1590
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 1: about spots four to five and six. Nick says, in

1591
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 1: my opinion, the wide receivers after Diggs, Brown Beasley will

1592
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: be huge in helping Josh Allen take the next step.

1593
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: He will need reliable weapons to step up while the

1594
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 1: coverage moves to the top three. This ought to be

1595
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: a very exciting offense. With the addition of Diggs and

1596
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: miss Moss, he means, can't wait, Let's go Buffalo. Here's

1597
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: the interesting part about Josh Allen taking the next step

1598
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 1: and needing to rely on the guys on the back

1599
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 1: end of the wide receiver depth chart. They drafted Gabe

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01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 1: Davis and Isaiah Hodgens because those two guys are players

1601
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: with very large catch radiuses and they're also got an

1602
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 1: ability to put points on the board. In three years,

1603
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 1: Hodgins had twenty touchdowns and in three seasons Gabe Davis

1604
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 1: had twenty three touchdowns. I realize it's college. It's a

1605
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 1: different animal. They're not going to score nearly as much

1606
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But making the kinds of plays to

1607
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 1: score I think is important, and I think those guys

1608
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: are going to get an awfully long look. Just listening

1609
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 1: to Brian Dable and Coach McDermott talk about these guys,

1610
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 1: those two rookie receivers on zoom calls. It's clear to

1611
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: me that they think those two players are wise beyond

1612
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 1: their years and just know how to play the game,

1613
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 1: whether it's from a player separation standpoint, whether it's a

1614
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 1: setup like Davis is good with route precision and gets

1615
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 1: open a lot in much the same way that Stefan

1616
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 1: Diggs does. Right, Hodgins is a completely different guy. He

1617
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: is a setup receiver, or what I like to call

1618
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: a setup receiver. He is great. He doesn't have the

1619
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 1: quicks that those other two guys have, but he is

1620
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 1: so good at using body language to set up a

1621
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:12,600
Speaker 1: defensive back to get separation, whether it's double moves or

1622
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 1: the shoulder turn to sell the body that he's more

1623
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: like a Stevie Johnson type route runner. And so because

1624
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,679
Speaker 1: of that and the huge catch radius and the scoring ability,

1625
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 1: I really think those two guys have a great shot

1626
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 1: to both beyond the roster. Yeah, the stinky part about

1627
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 1: this whole thing is Brownie, these could be really all

1628
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: of these could be phenomenally intense training camp battles. We

1629
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 1: won't get to see any of it. Well, it'll be

1630
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 1: able to see some of it, but we won't see

1631
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,560
Speaker 1: it in a preseason game format at all, which I

1632
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 1: think makes the evaluation for people like us harder. You know,

1633
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 1: we're not rolling back practice tape and rewinding like the

1634
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,879
Speaker 1: coaches are. Eli Padia chimes and he says, I picked cornerback,

1635
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 1: but I'm interested in the backup quarterback battle between From

1636
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 1: and Barkley. Back to opposite White will be defined a

1637
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 1: lot this season, and if Josh Norman particularly goes back

1638
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: to his old self, a lot of intrigue about how

1639
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:11,640
Speaker 1: some of these guys are gonna play. I'm I am

1640
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: excited to see Zach Moss play. I am excited to

1641
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 1: see Gabriel Davis play, you know um, and I am

1642
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 1: excited to see if Josh Norman can get it back.

1643
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 1: That's well, he played his best football. He played his

1644
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 1: best football in this scheme right for this coach, and

1645
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 1: I think there's something to be said for that, that's

1646
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 1: not just something had. Yeah, we've also got a young

1647
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 1: young guys like Antonio Williams. If you don't know him,

1648
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 1: he's the unrestricted He's the undrafted rookie free agent from

1649
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 1: University of North Carolina. He had two seasons at Ohio State,

1650
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 1: left on the running back. Yeah, yeah, he went to

1651
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 1: University of North Carolina. He could come in and land

1652
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 1: a spot on the rosters. Particularly the guy can cover kicks,

1653
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, and do some things on special teams. Um,

1654
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 1: lots of room and lots of intrigue. And like I said, though,

1655
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 1: the worst part of out all this Brownie, So we're

1656
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 1: not gonna get to see any of it. I think

1657
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: we'll get to see some of it on the practice

1658
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: setting only coming up. Kim Jones, NFL Network reporter, is

1659
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 1: going to join us here on one of Bill's Live,

1660
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 1: presented by Kalidah Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Right

1661
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 1: after the break, Oh A great time by Steve Taskers,

1662
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 1: Domes Dowstover Time. Welcome back to one of Bill's Live

1663
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown, we are pleased to

1664
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 1: be joined now on the line by an NFL Network reporter,

1665
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:47,719
Speaker 1: contributor to NFL Totaled Access, also NFL Game Day Morning

1666
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 1: at w f a n radio host. I believe she

1667
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 1: might have been hosting Good Morning Football as well this week.

1668
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 1: Kim Jones, Kim Steve tasker Chris Brown here in Buffalo.

1669
01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. First of all, are you safe

1670
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 1: and sound during the pandemic. How are you doing? Hi, guys,

1671
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to speak with you. Yeah, I'm absolutely fine,

1672
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 1: and you're right. I was on Good Morning Football Monday

1673
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: through Wednesday this week. My good friend Kay Adams returned

1674
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 1: this morning, so I got to actually sleep till six am,

1675
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 1: so it was terrific. Yeah. So here we go, Kim,

1676
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: I guess to a certain extent, with you know, training camps,

1677
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 1: which are going to look a whole lot different as

1678
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, is there something that you think we may

1679
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 1: not be keeping an eye out for with this COVID

1680
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 1: that might change these camps and the way they look

1681
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 1: in a way that we have not anticipated. We know

1682
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 1: the obvious no preseason games, we know what the protocols are.

1683
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 1: Do you think there's something we might be missing that

1684
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: no one's really talked much about. Well, generally speaking, my

1685
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 1: glass is always half full, so I do come at

1686
01:34:56,200 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 1: it from a generally optimistic human beings of things. Guys. Listen,

1687
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 1: I look at this preseason first and foremost. You know

1688
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 1: the players, the teams, and the luck of the draw

1689
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 1: has to allow them to get through without COVID taking over. Obviously.

1690
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 1: I just was in a conversation a podcast where someone

1691
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 1: described it as a bombshell that the Phillies had two positives,

1692
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:27,480
Speaker 1: and my reaction was, first and foremost, if that's a bombshell,

1693
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 1: two cases, then you know, what are we even doing

1694
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 1: because they're going to have to manage cases of COVID nineteen.

1695
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 1: We're seeing that already with some place being placed on

1696
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 1: that list. So it's not like they're going to be

1697
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 1: no cases. It's going to be how do you handle

1698
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 1: the ones that there are? So the one thing I

1699
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 1: see though, to answer your question, is this training camp

1700
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 1: to me is intriguing. Not that the off season in

1701
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 1: any way was ideal, I'm not painting it that way,

1702
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 1: but I do wonder if the slower ramp up, if

1703
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:03,680
Speaker 1: the commitment to you know, strengthen conditioning, you know, as

1704
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 1: if they're you know, shlubs like me going back to

1705
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 1: the gym for the first time in a while, even

1706
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 1: though I know they're far, far, far more athletic and

1707
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 1: fit than I am and younger. Um, I do wonder

1708
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 1: how this preseason turns out, and I'm hopeful that they

1709
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 1: avoid injuries, unlike after the lockout when they had more

1710
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 1: I believe achilles and knee injuries, then they certainly wanted

1711
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:30,640
Speaker 1: and then they were used to having. So I don't know.

1712
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if this preseason can turn into a positive.

1713
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 1: My hope is that the way they're doing it seems

1714
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 1: to be with player safety at the forefront, and I

1715
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 1: hope that's how it turns out. Talking with Kim Jones

1716
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 1: from the NFL Network, Kim also a lot has been

1717
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: said about how they're ramping up testing. They're all getting

1718
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 1: tested multiple times before they could even set foot in

1719
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 1: the building. The real issue is for these young twenty

1720
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 1: seven twenty something athletes, who some of which are rich

1721
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 1: and famous for the first time, staying indoors when they're

1722
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: not at the facility. The real key to the entire

1723
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 1: NFL model is the discipline of the guys away from

1724
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:18,679
Speaker 1: the game, agreed, And I think that's where leadership, both

1725
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 1: at the coaching level but perhaps more importantly at the

1726
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 1: player to player level, is going to be incredibly important.

1727
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 1: Perhaps perhaps we will look back on this and the

1728
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 1: NFL will, you know, think of a thank you to

1729
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 1: the new to the Miami Marlins for showing all teams

1730
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 1: what can happen when presumably and reportedly, you know, they

1731
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 1: made a trip on the road that is ending up

1732
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,719
Speaker 1: costing them and to some degree, all of baseball dearly.

1733
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 1: But maybe the NFL was always going to learn from

1734
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 1: these other sports, right, Perhaps we thought all of these

1735
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 1: other sports would get going slightly earlier than they did

1736
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 1: or than they are, But we always knew the FELL

1737
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 1: was going to be able to watch them and see

1738
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 1: what happened. To me, the Marlins have absolutely become a

1739
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 1: cautionary tale that I have to believe every single head

1740
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 1: coach in this league and team in this league is

1741
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 1: showing and making their their football players aware, don't be

1742
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 1: the Marlins, And I have to believe that's a message

1743
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: that resonates. You know, I understand these guys. They get

1744
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 1: to buy a car, in some cases for the first

1745
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 1: time in their lives. Some of them get to take

1746
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,720
Speaker 1: care of parents and loved ones, and I understand all

1747
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:34,839
Speaker 1: of that, but I have to believe that they realize

1748
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: the importance of staying healthy, even if they're very young

1749
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 1: players in this league. Yeah, and you have to believe

1750
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 1: veterans are going to be telling them hey, don't mess

1751
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 1: with my money. Yeah, my team and others camps actually

1752
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 1: play yes, yeah. And then the other layer here that

1753
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,560
Speaker 1: kind of came more to like this week, Kim, with

1754
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 1: respect to training camp and everything and players reporting are

1755
01:38:56,760 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: the opt outs? And obviously New England was on center

1756
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 1: with that with a half a dozen players choosing to

1757
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:08,759
Speaker 1: go that route. Some people even propose the Cockamamy idea

1758
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 1: that this was all part of Bill Belichick's master plan.

1759
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 1: But looking at the Patriots, specifically, Kim, the Tom Brady departure.

1760
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 1: Now with Donta High Tower opting out, they have none

1761
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 1: of their four starting linebackers from their number one defense

1762
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 1: last year back this year. There just seems to be

1763
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 1: almost too many things for Bill Belichick to overcome here

1764
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 1: by himself. How did those opt outs in the Patriots

1765
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 1: fortunes kind of pivot for you after seeing all of that? Well, listen,

1766
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 1: you know there was always going to be an opening

1767
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: in the division once Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay, right,

1768
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 1: I mean it's just a different New England team period.

1769
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 1: Now do the opt outs even enhance that? Yes they do.

1770
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 1: And I'm incredibly sympathetic to some of these players or

1771
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,560
Speaker 1: to to the players who you know, do have to

1772
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 1: weigh whether it's a new baby at home, whether in

1773
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 1: Nate Soldier's case, it's the fact that not only has

1774
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 1: he fought cancer, but his five year old son is

1775
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 1: still fighting cancer. And by the way, he and his

1776
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 1: wife had a new baby boy this calendar year. So

1777
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:19,559
Speaker 1: you know, some of these players have an awful lot

1778
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 1: going on that they have to take into account. Besides

1779
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 1: the idea, you know, do I want to play football?

1780
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 1: You know, so I'm really sympathetic to that, But you know,

1781
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:30,640
Speaker 1: I also listen, is New England vulnerable? Well? Sure, I

1782
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:33,599
Speaker 1: mean it's not now and when you know, and unless

1783
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 1: you're going to really say that, not only does Brady

1784
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 1: have to be gone, but so does Bill Belichick in

1785
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 1: order for anyone to have a chance. So if I'm

1786
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 1: the Bills, who, you know, I assume we're going to

1787
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:43,560
Speaker 1: talk about a little bit. Although I can't tell you

1788
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 1: guys anything about the Bills. You don't know whether it's

1789
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 1: the Bills who have so much stability returning and great

1790
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 1: that is terrific for them in this year, whether it's

1791
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 1: the Jets where Adam Gase has some things to prove,

1792
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 1: and I do think Sam Darnold will be better in

1793
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 1: his third year and or you know the Dolphins, which

1794
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, hey two is healthy. Who knows what that means?

1795
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 1: So and I think and I have great respect for

1796
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 1: from Afar for what Brian Flores has done. So you know,

1797
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 1: if not not now when though? You know, yes, are

1798
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 1: they vulnerable? Yes, And it's going to be up to

1799
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 1: a team, including the Bills obviously, to take advantage of that.

1800
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:23,599
Speaker 1: We're speaking with Kim Jones, NFL Network reporter. These opt

1801
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: outs that are coming down there, they're they're kind of

1802
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 1: trickling in and every guy's got his own, YEP schedule

1803
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 1: for deciding that. How I mean, if I don't know,

1804
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 1: if there's say there's an even two thousand guys in

1805
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:38,280
Speaker 1: the league, what kind of percentage are we looking at

1806
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:40,599
Speaker 1: for opt outs? So I'm thinking it looks like it's

1807
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 1: going to be less than fifty certainly probably less than

1808
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 1: a hundred. Yes, do you guys know where we are now?

1809
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,599
Speaker 1: I was just on a podcast. I've been I've actually

1810
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:50,600
Speaker 1: this week's been a little bit crazy for me. And

1811
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 1: I don't think today I've even turned on the news

1812
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 1: or checked out the news site. Does anyone know where

1813
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 1: we are right now. Numbers wise, I think we're still

1814
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 1: in the low twenties here, Kim. But I haven't seen

1815
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 1: too many names today, certainly not the same that we

1816
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 1: saw earlier in the week. Right, Okay, so we're talking

1817
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 1: about an average of one per team. Now, I know

1818
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 1: that New England is disproportionately represented, but average wise, we're

1819
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 1: talking about one per team. Let's say it goes to

1820
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 1: three per team on average. First of all, that's still workable,

1821
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:21,680
Speaker 1: and I don't again, I don't think I have to

1822
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 1: keep emphasizing it, but I don't say that with any

1823
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 1: animus towards the opt outers. I really don't say. They

1824
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 1: all have to make their decision that's right for them.

1825
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 1: But then, when you talk football, you talk brass tacks, right,

1826
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 1: So let's say it's three per team. Well, every team

1827
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 1: has to be able to overcome that, you know, and

1828
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 1: not to be overly callous. But you know, in season

1829
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 1: openers and in you know, listen, in the season season

1830
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 1: opener last year, the Jets lost C. J. Mosley against

1831
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:49,600
Speaker 1: the Bills that changed their entire season. So teams do

1832
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 1: lose players early and they have to find ways to

1833
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 1: compensate and Again, I know that's the callous approach, but

1834
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 1: I think I've already shown I'm not callous at all

1835
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 1: when it comes to the COVID decisions. These are making now,

1836
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 1: I think, and given the culture we're living in and

1837
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 1: the times we're living in, people are starved to watch

1838
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 1: live football. I think it's going to be as much

1839
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:12,560
Speaker 1: as yeah, they want to, it'll be as much a

1840
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 1: curiosity as anything. And if it does continue and games

1841
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 1: start grinding out and they kick out, you know, fifteen

1842
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 1: games a weekend, nobody's going to care who opted out. Oh,

1843
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 1: I totally agree, Oh, I totally agree, And yes, I

1844
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 1: would agree. I don't think that you're going to sit

1845
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 1: there and in week four say, you know, who was

1846
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 1: that player who opted out? Up for one thing, that's

1847
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 1: not really the way we are anymore. Right, the news

1848
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 1: cycle changes in our attention spans are shorter than ever,

1849
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 1: in my opinion, so we move on very quickly. Now

1850
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 1: during the season, if someone gets COVID, it certainly is

1851
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 1: going to be an enormous story. And I have to

1852
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 1: believe the NFL, which has you know, had a pretty

1853
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 1: good year so far in dealing with these challenges and

1854
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 1: the judgments they've made, and the decision they've made, for example,

1855
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 1: to hold the draft was obviously the right decision when

1856
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 1: they made it. Same with free agency. You know they're

1857
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna have to be able to deal, We're

1858
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 1: gonna have to be able to pivot, and we're gonna

1859
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 1: have to be able to accept that this isn't going

1860
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:17,680
Speaker 1: to be seamless. But again, I am an optimist, and

1861
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 1: I truly believe that we could have football this season,

1862
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 1: and we could have a successful season this season this year,

1863
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 1: and I truly hope that's all true. I know you've

1864
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:31,560
Speaker 1: spoken very positively about the offseason that the Bills have

1865
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:35,680
Speaker 1: put together, and certainly, as you mentioned, they have the

1866
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 1: advantage of continuity on their side, certainly to a greater

1867
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 1: degree than all of their division opponents. The proof obviously

1868
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 1: is in the pudding when they start playing games, you

1869
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 1: got to perform. But how far do you think that

1870
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 1: continuity carries them this year in comparison to their division opponents.

1871
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 1: Knowing there's no preseason games, knowing there's less evaluation time

1872
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 1: for coaches, knowing there's less time on the field for

1873
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 1: players to get accustomed to one another as teammates, in

1874
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,640
Speaker 1: my mind to at least a game past where we

1875
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 1: saw them last year. In my mind, at least a

1876
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:15,759
Speaker 1: game pass that divisional route. I think the Bills are terrific.

1877
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 1: I think the leadership there and the stability it provides

1878
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 1: with Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott is outstanding. I am

1879
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 1: an enormous Leslie Frasier fan. Brian dave Ball is proving

1880
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 1: himself to be top notch when it comes to helping

1881
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 1: to mold a young quarterback and an offense that, now,

1882
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:34,560
Speaker 1: as you guys know better than I gets all that

1883
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:38,600
Speaker 1: more explosive with Stefon Diggs and some of the other additions.

1884
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 1: But I do think Diggs has to stand on his

1885
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 1: own in that sentence because he's that good, especially when

1886
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 1: you combine him with John Brown and Cole Beasley. So,

1887
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:51,599
Speaker 1: you know, I think they're better. I think they should

1888
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 1: be better defensively. You know, I asked Leslie Frasier on

1889
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 1: a zoom call, you know, earlier this offseason. You know,

1890
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly when, but when within the last

1891
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 1: two months, you know, do you have to remind yourself

1892
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,560
Speaker 1: how young Tremaine Edmonds is. I mean, I am just

1893
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 1: so excited this that kid, and I call him a kid.

1894
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 1: He was nineteen at the time. That kid at the

1895
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:18,400
Speaker 1: combine was unbelievable. And people said, but is he a

1896
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 1: linebacker or is he going to gain enough waight as

1897
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 1: he grows that he might be a defensive end. And

1898
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 1: I looked at him, I said, who cares? You know,

1899
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 1: who cares? I mean, right now, he's obviously on his

1900
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 1: way to being a terrific linebacker. But you know, we

1901
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 1: didn't know then, you know, how he would fill out

1902
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 1: and all of that sort of thing, and you know,

1903
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 1: whatever handering in there was over that was sort of,

1904
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, unwarranted. In my opinion, he is absolutely fantastic,

1905
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 1: and I look for him to take an enormous step

1906
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 1: this season as a leader and also you know, as

1907
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 1: a player. So he is just one example of why,

1908
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the Bills and especially that defense, although

1909
01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:58,920
Speaker 1: that short change is a really good offense, are really, really,

1910
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 1: really on their way. Kim. We've spent a lot of

1911
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 1: time this offseason talking about Tom Brady leaving the AFC East,

1912
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 1: and I get it. I mean, there's plenty of reason

1913
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:09,719
Speaker 1: to do that. But one other thing that happened just lately,

1914
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 1: another guy left the AFC East. That was Jamal Adams,

1915
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 1: and certainly the Jets if everything he hears accurate, they

1916
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 1: botched the relationship and Jamal wasn't happy with him. He

1917
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 1: wanted that he didn't feel like they were honest with

1918
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 1: him for all the ins and outs and the politics

1919
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 1: and the emotions that got involved in that. When push

1920
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 1: comes to shove, the Jets had to make that trade

1921
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 1: for all those draft picks, did they not? Well? Yeah,

1922
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean if faith when there Thursday today, Thursday? Right?

1923
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:41,560
Speaker 1: So in the past eight days, Jamal Adams criticized ownership.

1924
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 1: He called in print that was on Twitter, in print

1925
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 1: in the Daily News, he called the general manager, Joe Douglas,

1926
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:51,519
Speaker 1: a liar and said that the coach Adam Gaze, is

1927
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:54,720
Speaker 1: not an effective leader and doesn't address the team at halftime.

1928
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:58,600
Speaker 1: Adam Gaze had a rebuttal for that. Where down the

1929
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:01,760
Speaker 1: stretch last season in the two games the Jets lost

1930
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 1: because they finished six and two In the two games

1931
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:07,760
Speaker 1: they lost down the stretch, Adam Gates did say that

1932
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 1: he addressed the team at halftime one game, the Baltimore game,

1933
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 1: which I believe was a Thursday. Jamal didn't make the

1934
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 1: trip because he was injured, and another game, which was

1935
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:18,760
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati, and that's a bad loss for the Jets.

1936
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you can see that, but at that game,

1937
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 1: Jamal was in the trainer's room at halftime, so listen,

1938
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:27,880
Speaker 1: the Jet to some degree have countered what he said.

1939
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 1: What he said was damning. What he said also needs

1940
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 1: to be looked at through a prism of a player

1941
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 1: who wanted out of town, and in some cases was

1942
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 1: factually inaccurate. So I don't think they had a choice,

1943
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 1: particularly when Seattle ponied up the second number of first

1944
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 1: round draft pick. You're getting two first round draft picks

1945
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 1: for a player who does not play a premium position. Now,

1946
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:56,679
Speaker 1: I think Adams is absolutely fantastic, great safety. We've always

1947
01:48:56,720 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 1: had a good relationship. He's also a play maker. He's

1948
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 1: just he's really really a tone setter on the field.

1949
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 1: But I think by the end of this both sides

1950
01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 1: had had kind of worn out the relationship. However, I

1951
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 1: do think this is important. The parameters of the deal

1952
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 1: were all in place and stayed the same before the

1953
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:26,640
Speaker 1: Daily News story came out, So this wasn't punitive. It

1954
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 1: wasn't you don't want to be here by But Adam

1955
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:31,559
Speaker 1: Gase did say with us on Zoom this week, Hey,

1956
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 1: we want players who want to be there and be here,

1957
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,960
Speaker 1: and that's fair any coach does. That is absolutely fair

1958
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 1: of Gas. Yeah, but the fact remains, Kim that they've

1959
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 1: pushed their chances of success further into the future now

1960
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 1: in the form of draft choices and hitting on those

1961
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 1: as opposed to this year, and that doesn't help Adam

1962
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 1: Gaze as I see it. So when you look at

1963
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:58,599
Speaker 1: this knowing that Douglas was brought on after Gas was hired, yep,

1964
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 1: and this could go very wrong for Adam Gase this year.

1965
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:03,600
Speaker 1: I mean he might not see the end of the

1966
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:07,640
Speaker 1: season if it doesn't start well. And with the with

1967
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 1: the lack of playing cards that you've now handed Greg Williams,

1968
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:14,600
Speaker 1: who did more with less last year to begin with,

1969
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if if Gas is in a very

1970
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 1: good spot. Again, I agree they didn't really have much

1971
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 1: of a choice once it went public in the Daily

1972
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 1: News with Jamal Adams. But still at all Gas is

1973
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 1: in a tight spot here, is he not? Yeah? And

1974
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 1: again they were trading him before it went public, so

1975
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 1: they didn't have a choice but when they didn't, but

1976
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:37,600
Speaker 1: when they did have a choice, they were choosing to

1977
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 1: trade him. I think that's important. And listen, Greg Williams,

1978
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 1: get CJ. Mosley back. C J. Mosley, as you guys

1979
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 1: probably remember, had a great impact on Game one when

1980
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 1: the Bills came to town and won at MetLife Stadium.

1981
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 1: C J. Mosley appoints was the best player on the

1982
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 1: field that day. And then he had that core issue,

1983
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 1: tried to come back for one game much later in

1984
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,600
Speaker 1: the season, couldn't do it and had surgery. So he

1985
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:04,479
Speaker 1: will get c J. Mosley back. I listen, Greg Williams,

1986
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 1: you know, I have to believe as a guy who's

1987
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 1: going to say, well, now I got Marcus May, Now

1988
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 1: I got a rookie and Ashton Davis. We'll see what

1989
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:13,600
Speaker 1: he can do. That can be a dicey situation for

1990
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 1: you to count on a rookie and Bradley McDougald from

1991
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:19,519
Speaker 1: Seattle who at the very least has played in this

1992
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 1: league and is a veteran and kind of gets it,

1993
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 1: and he seems really excited about coming to the Jets.

1994
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:27,320
Speaker 1: So you know, I get the handwringing over Jamal. I

1995
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:30,120
Speaker 1: get the idea that Adam Gaze has to win. But

1996
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 1: I will say this, both Christopher Johnson and Joe Douglas

1997
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 1: both recognize the hand Gaze has been dealt with them

1998
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 1: trading their best player on the cusp of training camp.

1999
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 1: They understand that. So you know, I don't you know,

2000
01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:46,800
Speaker 1: would he be fired during the season. I think things

2001
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 1: would have to go haywire to a degree that you

2002
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 1: would say, this is just not something we can accept

2003
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 1: for that to happen. Yeah. I just worry about perception,

2004
01:51:56,840 --> 01:52:00,240
Speaker 1: which is what Adams put out there becoming reality, whether

2005
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,680
Speaker 1: it's right or it's wrong. We're inact completely inaccurate. We

2006
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:07,879
Speaker 1: know how player opinion tends to spread like wildfire, especially

2007
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:10,840
Speaker 1: when things go wrong. So I'm just wondering how much

2008
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 1: of Adam's perception, whether there were ulterior motives or not,

2009
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 1: becomes reality for Gaze. Oh, Jamal Adams reception of Adam

2010
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 1: Gaze right right, Yeah, what you're saying? Okay, okay, um, Well,

2011
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. His teammates had been very quiet

2012
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I noted on NFL Network I think it

2013
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 1: was yesterday. You know, you haven't seen any teammates on

2014
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,680
Speaker 1: Twitter or social media where you know we all live

2015
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 1: these days, especially the younger folks. Um, you know, you

2016
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 1: haven't seen anyone wish him well. It's much different than

2017
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:47,160
Speaker 1: when the Jet Giants traded O'Dell. I mean, he had

2018
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 1: legions of teammates. You know, still my brother, you know,

2019
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 1: love you man. You know we're going to miss you.

2020
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:54,840
Speaker 1: You know that kind of stuff. And someone said it

2021
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 1: might have been Maurice Jones Drew yesterday on Good Morning

2022
01:52:57,600 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 1: Football when I was on there, and he said, well,

2023
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 1: players are afraid to, you know, say that they missed

2024
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 1: Jamal because they might lose their jobs. I mean, I

2025
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 1: find it hard to believe Joe Douglas is going to

2026
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:09,680
Speaker 1: cut a player because he wishes Jamal Adams well. I mean,

2027
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 1: I find that really hard to believe. In fact, Adam

2028
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:15,360
Speaker 1: Gason Zoom this week wished Jamal Well said he knows

2029
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:19,640
Speaker 1: he'll play great for Pete Carroll and said, you know,

2030
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:21,679
Speaker 1: I know we see them later in the season because

2031
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 1: the teams meet in week fourteen. So I think Jamal

2032
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 1: Adams as much of a ball of fire he was.

2033
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: He was and an energetic player, I don't know that

2034
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:37,639
Speaker 1: his leadership was something the team really digested very well.

2035
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 1: I don't know that he was a leader, except with

2036
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 1: his play, which obviously was outstanding. Kim. Before we let

2037
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,600
Speaker 1: you go, I just want to ask you about the

2038
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 1: other side of the New York Football coin, the New

2039
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 1: York Giants. They've got a brand new head coach and

2040
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:56,599
Speaker 1: the worst possible situation, the worst possible offseason situation, Joe Judge.

2041
01:53:56,840 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 1: He brought on experienced Jason Garrett as his offensive core nator.

2042
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:03,759
Speaker 1: I don't know much about his defensive coordinator, Patrick Graham,

2043
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:05,599
Speaker 1: But what does it look like for the Giants coming

2044
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 1: into this season? Were their expectations and not just for

2045
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: the team but for the fan base. Yeah, I mean

2046
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 1: I you know. I said to Joe Judge in June,

2047
01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 1: I said, you know, if ever there was a build

2048
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 1: an excuse for a first time, first year head coach.

2049
01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 1: And he said, I'm not an excuses guy, and my

2050
01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 1: team won't be an excuses team. But you're right, they

2051
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 1: certainly have them if they wanted to use them. And listen,

2052
01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:30,840
Speaker 1: the loss of Nate Soldier, who did not have a

2053
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 1: good year last year, but who is a veteran in

2054
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 1: this league. He has obviously won during his time in

2055
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 1: New England in this league and he's a mature adult.

2056
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:43,839
Speaker 1: The loss of him does immediately put even more pressure.

2057
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:45,840
Speaker 1: There was always going to be pressure, but even more

2058
01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 1: pressure on Andrew Thomas to step in at one of

2059
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 1: the tackle spots and left tackle is now open and

2060
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 1: to be terrific. He was drafted fourth, you know, in

2061
01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 1: that draft for a reason. But he's going to really

2062
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 1: have to play well early for this offense. And you know,

2063
01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 1: as far as the Giants defense goes, Patrick Graham, he's

2064
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 1: been in Green Bay last year. He was the Dolphins

2065
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Brian Flores did let him leave for the

2066
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 1: Giants without, you know, a lateral job, So I don't

2067
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 1: know if that tells you anything. The Dolphins defense last

2068
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 1: year wasn't really very good. You know, they're going to

2069
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:27,480
Speaker 1: have to find a way to institute a winning culture

2070
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 1: amid very challenging times, and I think that that. I

2071
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be tough. They're going to have to

2072
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 1: have players buy in, including some players who didn't seem

2073
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 1: to buy in quite as much as they should have

2074
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:40,920
Speaker 1: a year ago. So that's going to be fascinating to

2075
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 1: watch with the New York Giants, Kim, thanks so much

2076
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 1: for coming on with us. We wish you the best

2077
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 1: in the upcoming season. We hope you stay COVID free

2078
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 1: and we'll look for you during a season on NFL Network.

2079
01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 1: Thanks thanks Jim, Thank you. Kim Jones, NFL Network reporter,

2080
01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:59,160
Speaker 1: contributor to NFL Total Access and NFL Game Day Morning.

2081
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 1: She's also a WAFA N radio host as well, and

2082
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 1: she was on Good Morning Football Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday

2083
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 1: of this week. Thanks for ming just a little right.

2084
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 1: The COVID's not slowing her down at all. Steve Tasker,

2085
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 1: Chris Brown. We're coming back after the break One of

2086
01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

2087
01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 1: Welcome back from One of Bills Live. Thanks to Kim

2088
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 1: Jones for coming on with us last hour, last half hour.

2089
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 1: We've asked you, our listeners, what will be the most

2090
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 1: important position battle on the Buffalo Bills in training camp.

2091
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 1: It has been a dead heat for most of the day.

2092
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 1: The really the winner has been the defensive line. Thirty

2093
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 1: four percent of you say the defensive line battle is

2094
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:48,600
Speaker 1: going to be the biggest one thirty percent of you,

2095
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 1: so three and a half percent less than that. I

2096
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 1: think it's going to be the cornerback spot opposite tradevious White.

2097
01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:55,760
Speaker 1: Twenty nine percent of you think it's going to be

2098
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver the bottom of the wide receiver depth chart

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01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 1: behind Colby easily, John Brown and Stefan Diggs. And seven

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Speaker 1: percent of you think it's gonna be some other position battle.

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01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 1: We've We've been contacted by a ton of you on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. I think, yeah, are we up to

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01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 1: Bert Bert? I went on that. No, I guess maybe

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01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 1: I didn't. Here we go. I went other on this,

2105
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 1: Burt Bills. I think the kicker punter is going to

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01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 1: be the most important. The top three wide receivers are set,

2107
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 1: the D line rotates and war for number one spot

2108
01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 1: at the corner. Uh for one, war for one spot

2109
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 1: at the cornerback. But when you go down by one

2110
01:57:36,280 --> 01:57:40,920
Speaker 1: or two, when you're when you're down by one or

2111
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:43,720
Speaker 1: tied at the end of the game, you want to

2112
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 1: trust and know that your kicker is solid. Plus we

2113
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 1: need to be better at special teams. So he thinks

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01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 1: the kicker punter battle is most important thing because, like

2115
01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: we know, every once in a while, your kicker's got

2116
01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 1: to decide the game. It impacts the scoreboard probably more

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01:57:57,840 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 1: than any of these other positions that we've talked about.

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01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:02,600
Speaker 1: So I get why you voted that way. I'm just

2119
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 1: surprised we didn't have a larger percentage of people vote

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01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:08,840
Speaker 1: other particularly when you got a draft pick sitting there

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01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 1: that's at the kicker position. And here's the interesting thing

2122
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 1: about the kicker position and the punter position and the

2123
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 1: two competitions therein I think one impacts the other. Steve,

2124
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:26,720
Speaker 1: not necessarily as a primary factor, but as a secondary factor.

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01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:30,160
Speaker 1: And here's why. I think the main reason the Tyler

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01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:35,720
Speaker 1: basses here is because of kickoffs and how they were

2127
01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:39,320
Speaker 1: not reaching the back of the end zone with enough consistency.

2128
01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:42,240
Speaker 1: This team was eighteenth in the league in touchback percentage

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01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 1: fifty plus yards. How she had a tough time last year,

2130
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:53,800
Speaker 1: and so leg strength is the primary issue there at

2131
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 1: place kicker right. As for punter, it's a consistency issue.

2132
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:04,800
Speaker 1: I think both Corey Bojorquez and kry Vedvik have tremendous

2133
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: legs in terms of power and strength. The problem lies

2134
01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:13,880
Speaker 1: in the consistency in hanging at forty yards if you

2135
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 1: need to directional punting to angle it one way or

2136
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 1: the other and keeping it out of the end zone.

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01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:25,640
Speaker 1: For touchbacks. So you say, all right, well, then how

2138
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 1: are they intertwined? They're intertwined because car Vedvik is not

2139
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 1: only a punter, he is a kickoff specialist. So it

2140
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 1: makes me wonder, Steve, that if we get to you know,

2141
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:44,360
Speaker 1: cut down time, and the Bills choose to keep kry

2142
01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 1: Vedvik as the punter, knowing he can also kick off,

2143
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:53,280
Speaker 1: does that provide a security blanket for Steven Houshcook because

2144
01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:56,360
Speaker 1: the deep kickoffs and the touchbacks are taken care of

2145
01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:59,480
Speaker 1: by the punter, You're just kept right. I don't know.

2146
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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing too, Steve, because Brandon being

2147
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:06,520
Speaker 1: talked about this right after he drafted Tyler Bass. He said,

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Speaker 1: whether we drafted a kicker or not, we were going

2149
02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:11,040
Speaker 1: to add one for competition and training camp, and he said,

2150
02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:13,200
Speaker 1: we are going to try to put them in as

2151
02:00:13,240 --> 02:00:16,680
Speaker 1: many high pressure situations as possible because what they need

2152
02:00:16,760 --> 02:00:18,800
Speaker 1: to know from Tyler Bass is that he can be

2153
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Speaker 1: a clutch kicker. They know what his physical abilities are.

2154
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:24,160
Speaker 1: He was bombing him. I was at the Senior Bowl, Steve.

2155
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:28,440
Speaker 1: He's bombing him from sixty five yards without any wind,

2156
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:31,600
Speaker 1: like for the three quarters up the uprights. Well, that's

2157
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:33,680
Speaker 1: great when you're warming up at the Senior Bowl, but

2158
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:35,840
Speaker 1: what happens when the game's on the line, and now

2159
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:39,320
Speaker 1: you don't have preseason games to create those pressure situations, right,

2160
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:42,640
Speaker 1: And here's the other added layer of difficulty and importance

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Speaker 1: in this season for the kicker punter thing, and what

2162
02:00:45,120 --> 02:00:47,120
Speaker 1: happens if say you're going into a game and how

2163
02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:50,760
Speaker 1: she gets the covid M. You're gonna bring in somebody

2164
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:52,800
Speaker 1: who isn't part of the team. You know you can

2165
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Speaker 1: move Vedvic over and he can he can do some

2166
02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:59,960
Speaker 1: of that in a pinch. You've got guys with cross

2167
02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:03,200
Speaker 1: position skills, right, so you got to kick a punter

2168
02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:05,760
Speaker 1: who can also kick long field goals and kick off

2169
02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:11,480
Speaker 1: versatility is critical in that spot. That's something that has

2170
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Speaker 1: to be addressed as well. So and also point right

2171
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:16,640
Speaker 1: and also if Tyler Bass comes in, he's got a

2172
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:19,120
Speaker 1: big leg, he can kick off deep as well. But

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Speaker 1: Vedvik is the intriguing thing to me. If he can

2174
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Speaker 1: punt and punt well, or at least punt consistently, that job,

2175
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Speaker 1: he'll have a job because he's got that added level

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Speaker 1: of listening a pinch, like last night we lost Tyler

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Speaker 1: Bass he can't kick off, well Vedvik can we lost

2178
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Speaker 1: Stephen Hauski, Well Vedvic can kick field goals. Um, that's huge.

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Speaker 1: I think the fact that he can punt as well

2180
02:01:44,640 --> 02:01:48,520
Speaker 1: as kick off gives him a level of importance and

2181
02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:53,880
Speaker 1: bonus skill set that the other guys can't match. I think,

2182
02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:59,440
Speaker 1: especially this season with co exactly now talk about with Vedvik. Here.

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Speaker 1: The thing about Corey by Orkes that you've noticed that

2184
02:02:02,160 --> 02:02:04,840
Speaker 1: once in a while he'll bomb one. Well, yeah, that

2185
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:07,480
Speaker 1: he'll bomb to the physical ability, right, he can bomb him.

2186
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:10,040
Speaker 1: He'll bomb maybe one or maybe two a game, but

2187
02:02:10,200 --> 02:02:14,480
Speaker 1: then as we know, there's always one, maybe two that

2188
02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:17,640
Speaker 1: come off the side of his footmus It's a little

2189
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 1: bit of a roller coaster ride and a roll of

2190
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:23,600
Speaker 1: the dice with Corey by Orkes. He's not consistent enough.

2191
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 1: That is what Vedvik has to bring to the table.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if he can hit him fifty five yards,

2193
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:35,680
Speaker 1: but if he can hit it forty every single time

2194
02:02:35,800 --> 02:02:37,640
Speaker 1: with enough hang time to give you a chance to

2195
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:39,840
Speaker 1: cover it, that's all you gotta have. Yeah, that's he'll

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Speaker 1: have a coach that is Chris Moore lasted in the

2197
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:45,000
Speaker 1: league so long, right, Well, that's why. And I'll tell

2198
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:47,320
Speaker 1: you what. Chris got paid a lot of money to

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Speaker 1: do it in the realm, in the in the structure

2200
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:53,240
Speaker 1: of NFL punters, he was one of the higher paid

2201
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Speaker 1: guys because when Marv brought him here, he says, listen,

2202
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Speaker 1: we'll pay you, but you gotta do it our way.

2203
02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:00,360
Speaker 1: You'll never gonna go to the Pro Bowl. But you're

2204
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:02,720
Speaker 1: we're not going to give up the long punt return either,

2205
02:03:03,360 --> 02:03:06,080
Speaker 1: and so that's that was the philosophy. So basically they

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02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:08,600
Speaker 1: hang it up in forest Fair catches. Yeah, I hit

2207
02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:11,880
Speaker 1: it five second hang time at forty yards and we'll

2208
02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:15,040
Speaker 1: pay you the going rate for sure. And he was

2209
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Speaker 1: willing to do that. So Chris had as big a

2210
02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:21,120
Speaker 1: leg as you ever want, but he was disciplined enough

2211
02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:22,960
Speaker 1: not to do it because you know, that was the

2212
02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:26,200
Speaker 1: philosophy that Bruce de Haven Marv Levy came with. And

2213
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:29,400
Speaker 1: it's hard to return, you know, it's hard to return

2214
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:31,840
Speaker 1: a punt for a touchdown when you're fair catching every punt.

2215
02:03:32,280 --> 02:03:37,600
Speaker 1: So consistency is the calling card for NFL punters. So

2216
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 1: that's I think that's the thing that the yet these

2217
02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:44,000
Speaker 1: young guys Vedvik and Tyler Bass have to bring to

2218
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:46,400
Speaker 1: the table in training camp this year. If you want

2219
02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:48,960
Speaker 1: to give this a shot at NFL true false. Yeah,

2220
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:51,080
Speaker 1: let's do it man, all right NFL true false. Brought

2221
02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:54,839
Speaker 1: to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artisan Cheese NFL

2222
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:59,680
Speaker 1: true false. Number one Patrick Mahomes got robbed from NFL's

2223
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:06,120
Speaker 1: Time one hundred. He came in at number four last year, right,

2224
02:04:06,680 --> 02:04:10,920
Speaker 1: and let's see, obviously the top one hundred, So what

2225
02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:17,040
Speaker 1: do you think Lamar Jackson was number one? Right? Which, look,

2226
02:04:17,120 --> 02:04:19,000
Speaker 1: I got a lot of respect for Lamar Jackson as

2227
02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:21,760
Speaker 1: a talent, but oh my god, I mean, how is

2228
02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:25,640
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes not number one? Your Super Bowl MVP? The

2229
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:32,080
Speaker 1: MVP from twenty eighteen, I mean had comeback led comeback

2230
02:04:32,200 --> 02:04:36,240
Speaker 1: victories in their last three playoff games. I mean, where

2231
02:04:36,280 --> 02:04:40,520
Speaker 1: are we going with this? Seriously? Like, Lamar Jackson is

2232
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:43,880
Speaker 1: a super talent. And here's the only thing I can

2233
02:04:43,960 --> 02:04:47,880
Speaker 1: think of, Steve as to why more people voted for

2234
02:04:48,160 --> 02:04:51,080
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson than they did Patrick Mahomes to put him

2235
02:04:51,080 --> 02:04:55,240
Speaker 1: into the top spot on this list. There are players

2236
02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:59,320
Speaker 1: who are still having nightmares about trying to catch Lamar Jackson,

2237
02:05:00,320 --> 02:05:04,160
Speaker 1: and that's why they voted for him, and this is

2238
02:05:04,360 --> 02:05:06,920
Speaker 1: really the first time they got to see Lamar Jackson

2239
02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:10,760
Speaker 1: full time, up close and personal, week after week after week.

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Speaker 1: And they've seen Mahomes for a few years now, and

2241
02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:17,000
Speaker 1: they know what he's about. It's not as shocking. And

2242
02:05:17,120 --> 02:05:19,600
Speaker 1: I think after seeing Lamar Jackson on a field in

2243
02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:22,880
Speaker 1: front of you and then fifty yards behind you in

2244
02:05:22,960 --> 02:05:26,800
Speaker 1: a matter of four seconds, that's I think what earned

2245
02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:30,320
Speaker 1: him these votes. But it's right, I got a different

2246
02:05:30,360 --> 02:05:33,880
Speaker 1: theory about why. I've got a different I've got a

2247
02:05:33,920 --> 02:05:37,000
Speaker 1: different take on why Lamar got the number one votes.

2248
02:05:37,040 --> 02:05:42,360
Speaker 1: One it would be this, Mahomes has got some weapons

2249
02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:44,160
Speaker 1: around him. He's got a ton of guys. He got

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, He's got he's got an offense, he's got Kittle.

2251
02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got some guys. So that takes a

2252
02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:52,840
Speaker 1: little bit of the shine off of Pat Mahomes with

2253
02:05:52,880 --> 02:05:55,600
Speaker 1: all those weapons. Certainly those guys are nothing without him.

2254
02:05:55,640 --> 02:06:01,480
Speaker 1: But there's that and also this, the Baltimore Ravens constructed

2255
02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:06,440
Speaker 1: almost their entire team around Lamar Jackson and he won

2256
02:06:06,520 --> 02:06:10,280
Speaker 1: the MVP. That is a team that is constructed to

2257
02:06:10,480 --> 02:06:13,160
Speaker 1: make him look good. And I think people noticed for

2258
02:06:13,240 --> 02:06:17,160
Speaker 1: obvious reasons the guy was the MVP. Going forward, I

2259
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:19,000
Speaker 1: don't know if they'll be as effective as they were

2260
02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:22,360
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, because you know, you know, the technology

2261
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:26,360
Speaker 1: catches up with him, defenses will start to catch up

2262
02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:28,320
Speaker 1: with them. The Buffalo Bills had a nice game plan

2263
02:06:28,400 --> 02:06:30,880
Speaker 1: against him. It would have been fun playoff game to

2264
02:06:30,920 --> 02:06:33,520
Speaker 1: see those two teams go at it again. But I

2265
02:06:33,640 --> 02:06:37,120
Speaker 1: think the fact that Pat Mahomes is with Andy Reid

2266
02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:42,440
Speaker 1: and Tyree Hill and Sammy Watkins and the crew there.

2267
02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:47,040
Speaker 1: I think the fact that it is in Baltimore, it's

2268
02:06:47,240 --> 02:06:50,120
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and everybody else. So I think he gets

2269
02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:52,240
Speaker 1: a little boost from that, from the fact that he

2270
02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:55,880
Speaker 1: is the guy and it's all in and about Lamar

2271
02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:58,200
Speaker 1: in Baltimore. So I think that carried has carried the

2272
02:06:58,280 --> 02:07:00,480
Speaker 1: day for him. But I'm with you, if you're give

2273
02:07:00,520 --> 02:07:04,640
Speaker 1: me one of the two of those guys, give me Mahomes. Yeah. Yeah.

2274
02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:09,440
Speaker 1: NFL True falls number two. Matthew Stafford deserves to be

2275
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:12,720
Speaker 1: on the NFL's top one hundred. I think he does.

2276
02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:16,360
Speaker 1: He's done enough in this league over the years with

2277
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:21,840
Speaker 1: a relatively crumby supporting cast and has still been productive.

2278
02:07:22,160 --> 02:07:25,000
Speaker 1: It's been hard to win games. But from an individual

2279
02:07:25,080 --> 02:07:28,879
Speaker 1: production standpoint, for the most part, he's put together good seasons.

2280
02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:32,120
Speaker 1: He's fought through injuries. I don't know that he's ever

2281
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:35,120
Speaker 1: a great protection. And here's the other thing. His number

2282
02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:37,560
Speaker 1: one receiver, Kenny Galladay, also did not make the list,

2283
02:07:37,600 --> 02:07:40,200
Speaker 1: which is just as big a crime in my estimation.

2284
02:07:40,280 --> 02:07:42,760
Speaker 1: So I say, yes, he deserves to be on it. True,

2285
02:07:43,200 --> 02:07:45,280
Speaker 1: I think true as well. The guy, I think I've

2286
02:07:45,280 --> 02:07:47,120
Speaker 1: always thought he was an elite quarterback. He's got a

2287
02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:51,360
Speaker 1: great throwing arm, he's got a very accurate He plays

2288
02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:57,040
Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions. Their perennial also rans they catch

2289
02:07:57,160 --> 02:07:58,840
Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle once in a while and get

2290
02:07:58,880 --> 02:08:02,000
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, and and you know they have. They

2291
02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:05,880
Speaker 1: have not gotten a whiff of a deep playoff run

2292
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:08,120
Speaker 1: for a while now. I think. I don't think it's

2293
02:08:08,160 --> 02:08:10,840
Speaker 1: been a while since they've made it to thee I

2294
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:14,320
Speaker 1: just think they're off everybody's radar. Uh And Matthew Stafford

2295
02:08:14,360 --> 02:08:16,600
Speaker 1: he struggles with injury, as he said, so it's hard

2296
02:08:16,680 --> 02:08:20,320
Speaker 1: for people to get constant doses of how good he is.

2297
02:08:20,360 --> 02:08:22,800
Speaker 1: But I've we've seen it. I've seen it. The guy's

2298
02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:24,960
Speaker 1: really a good quarterback, and there's no question he plays

2299
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:28,200
Speaker 1: the most difficult position in the sport and he plays

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02:08:28,200 --> 02:08:30,040
Speaker 1: it really well and has for a long time. Yeah,

2301
02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:33,640
Speaker 1: he deserves to be there. That's that's true. All right,

2302
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Speaker 1: NFL two falls, got one? We better, we better break

2303
02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:38,600
Speaker 1: down that last one we got all right, last one.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come back. Steve Tasker Chris Brown coming back

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Speaker 1: to finish up one. Bills Live presented by Kalidah Health

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. What Have We Learned? Brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company of

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Earlier in the program, we had former

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill Marquis good One on what's gonna happen outside

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Speaker 1: the building? When these players do everything they're supposed to

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Speaker 1: do while they're at work, when they go home, everything

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Speaker 1: may be different. Also their reaction to his decision to

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Speaker 1: opt out of the twenty twenty season. Here's Marquise Goodway.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I've had to build thick skin over

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Speaker 1: the years. When I first came into the league, I

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Speaker 1: was a little sensitive to that because in Texas, you know,

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Speaker 1: they we handle things a little differently. When it came

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Speaker 1: to sports when it came to politics within sports, and so,

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Speaker 1: you know, being a professional going into my eighth year,

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Speaker 1: I've learned how the kind of just ingest and game

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Speaker 1: get what I need from those conversations and then just

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Speaker 1: move on. You know, I really don't harp on it

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Speaker 1: too long. You know, I just take a deep breath.

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Speaker 1: I may respond to a couple of them with a

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Speaker 1: super intelligent answer, and then I smart. Keith Goodwen talking

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Speaker 1: about how his decision to opt out has been received.

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Speaker 1: We also had Kim Jones of NFL Network on and

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Speaker 1: she talked about the Buffalo Bills and how far their

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Speaker 1: continuity could take them this season. Here's Kim, in my

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Speaker 1: mind to at least a game past where we saw

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Speaker 1: them last year. In my mind, at least a game

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Speaker 1: pass that divisional round. I think the Bills are terrific.

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Speaker 1: I think the leadership there and the stability it provides

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Speaker 1: with Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott is outstanding. I am

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Speaker 1: an enormous Leslie Frasier fan. Brian day Ball is proving

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Speaker 1: himself to be top notch when it comes to helping

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Speaker 1: to mold a young quarterback and an offense that now

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Speaker 1: as you guys know better than I gets all that

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Speaker 1: more explosive with Stefan Diggs and some of the other additions.

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Speaker 1: But I do think Diggs has to stand on his

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Speaker 1: own in that sentence because he's that good. That was

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Speaker 1: Kim Jones, NFL Network on What We Learned, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Skywarks. Brownie. We're getting some stuff in now

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Speaker 1: about baseball games being canceled, all of that happening, not

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Speaker 1: much time to talk about it, but thanks for being

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Speaker 1: on as a good show today. Yeah, and real quick.

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Speaker 1: Mike Aarafolo from NFL Network is reporting that the Bills

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Speaker 1: are choosing to send their rookies home for virtual meetings

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Speaker 1: instead of holding in person meetings as scheduled. So just

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Speaker 1: another on the fly adjustment that the Bills are making

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Speaker 1: to try to be safe. All right, that'll do it

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Speaker 1: for us. Thanks for joining us. We'll be back tomorrow

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Speaker 1: noon to three. Darryl Tally will be on with us

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Speaker 1: as well. Tomorrow One Bills Live presented by Kalidah Health.

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Speaker 1: And this has been Buffalo Bills Radio