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Speaker 1: I mean, if you really wanted to take Cavino and Rich,

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Speaker 1: make it a little bit dumber, but a hell of

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Speaker 1: a lot better looking, that's what we've got right now.

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Speaker 1: He's buck rising on Jason Fitz. It's a bucket fits

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Speaker 1: takeover on Fox Sports Radio, hanging out with you. Indiana

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Speaker 1: up ten to nothing over Alabama in the second quarter,

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Speaker 1: Bama with the ball and the entire state of Alabama

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Speaker 1: starting to feel a little bit puckered up. But here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. Here's the thing. We haven't seen a lot

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Speaker 1: in this game, but here's one common thread that we've

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Speaker 1: seen throughout the course of the college football playoff. Over

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Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours, we've had a bunch of

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Speaker 1: playoff games, and it's been really easy quickly to figure

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Speaker 1: out which team was gonna win. All you have to

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Speaker 1: do is ask yourself, which defense is flying to the

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Speaker 1: ball more because I would argue at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, I wouldn't even are I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: would argue with me. Miami's defense flat out out played

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Speaker 1: Ohio State's defense as good as they are, and in

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Speaker 1: the game earlier today, as much as we were touting

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Speaker 1: the greatness of Texas Tech, my god, that Oregon defense

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Speaker 1: was even better. Right, And so far in this game,

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Speaker 1: Indiana's defense has stepped up and made the plays they

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Speaker 1: need to make. If I'm Bama, I'm starting to get

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Speaker 1: a little bit nervous. Buck.

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Speaker 3: We love it.

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Speaker 4: We love anytime we can cause great discomfort to the

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Speaker 4: state of Alabama. Respectfully, to our Fox Sports radio affiliates

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Speaker 4: in the state of Alabama, I am actively rooting on

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Speaker 4: your downfall today as in Indiana, Alum. It makes me very,

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Speaker 4: very happy to see my team up ten to nothing.

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Speaker 4: But I also remember that Oklahoma was up seventeen to

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Speaker 4: nothing on Alabama, and so I fear that in the

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Speaker 4: back of my mind at this point in time, like

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Speaker 4: I'm just waiting for that moment. And maybe that's just

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Speaker 4: the way that that sports fans exist. Like you don't,

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Speaker 4: you don't ever feel good about it until it's over right.

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Speaker 1: Why is explain this to me? Why is it that

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Speaker 1: when your favorite team is ahead by ten, you're like,

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Speaker 1: no lead is safe, And when your favorite team is

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Speaker 1: down by ten, you're like, well we can never come.

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Speaker 3: Back from that.

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Speaker 1: Like, it's it's the same point differential, it's just a

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Speaker 1: total different mindset.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's it's easier to do I think it's just

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Speaker 4: like it's an easier way to do the analysis that way,

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Speaker 4: rather than be rational or or or remove emotion from

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Speaker 4: the situation, because that's you know, at that point, you're

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Speaker 4: not being a fan. I am fascinated to see today,

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Speaker 4: in this particular game, with this matchup. I've been and

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Speaker 4: I've talked to you about this before. I've talked locally,

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Speaker 4: I've talked nationally about it. The idea that Indiana's talent

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Speaker 4: profile is so much lower, so much less than Alabama's

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Speaker 4: is so at what point am I gonna see? You know,

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Speaker 4: these stud wide receivers for Alabama just turn it on

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Speaker 4: and do something that Indiana's secondary is not capable of

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Speaker 4: competing with because they're just physically less. Now, Ty Simpson

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Speaker 4: has to make more throws. Ty Simpson has to be protected.

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Speaker 4: They have to be able to run the ball for

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Speaker 4: Alabama to be able to have a balanced offense. They

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Speaker 4: can't just get in these dropback situations and expect to win.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I suppose they can because they did it

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Speaker 4: for a good chunk of the season, but lately, no,

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Speaker 4: I can't go ahead.

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Speaker 1: That point, though, buck is an important one. Like we're

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Speaker 1: watching Alabama right now get no balance in their offense.

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Speaker 1: And I said earlier the better defense is won every game.

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Speaker 1: I could take the flip side of that and say

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Speaker 1: the quarterback that was incapable of getting comfortable lost every game.

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Speaker 1: Like Dante Moore was never really comfortable, but he handled

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Speaker 1: the game a hell of a lot better at Texas Tech. Right,

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Speaker 1: So you know there is some moment of you know,

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Speaker 1: I said I don't really trust Carson Beck? Right, But man,

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Speaker 1: Carson Beck flat he didn't look like the moment it

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Speaker 1: for Ohio State. Right, So your point in this game,

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Speaker 1: what I saw in the second drive was a Fernando

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Speaker 1: What I just saw on the response drive for Alabama

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Speaker 4: This Well, it's just it's something that we've seen for Alabama,

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Speaker 4: like they've kind of been living dangerously for a while now,

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Speaker 4: right And at some point you have talked about this

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Speaker 4: at great length, I'm sure, not just on Yahoo, but

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Speaker 4: in every other place you're being asked college football question

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Speaker 4: when you do interviews or appearances or things like that.

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Speaker 4: The idea of Alabama they can they win. I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying that they're outright one dimensional, but there is one dimensional.

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Speaker 4: I mean, is there a more one dimensional offense in

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Speaker 4: the postseason right now based on what their season has

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Speaker 4: and their perpetual existence in third and six plus.

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Speaker 1: No. No, you're a thousand percent right.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: And you know that's why I thought this was an

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Speaker 1: Indiana in a matchup opportunity before the injury to the

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Speaker 1: defensive line from the Big Ten Championship, because all you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So at that point, I just don't think that's

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Speaker 4: a successful formula.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know that's a not successful.

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Speaker 4: Formula to having any kind of meaningful impact on a

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Speaker 4: for example, isn't equipped to score with you and starts

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Speaker 4: to play a little more. I wouldn't say lacks on defense,

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Speaker 3: I mean, not to.

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Speaker 4: Cliche it too much, but the idea of bend, don't

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Speaker 4: versus being hyper aggressive and dictating matchups and sending pressure

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Speaker 4: and jamming at the line of scrimmage and all these

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Speaker 4: different things depending on game situation. I just don't think

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Speaker 4: able to make them pay. Alabama is good enough to

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Speaker 4: still make you pay in that situation. I just don't

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Speaker 4: think Indiana's gonna underestimate anybody at this point in time,

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Speaker 4: because this is the team.

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Speaker 3: This is the program of perpetual underestimation.

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Speaker 1: He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason fitzbucking Fits taken over for

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Speaker 1: the guys. And you know it's interesting too, because everything

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Speaker 1: you're talking about is why this gets more and more difficult.

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Speaker 1: I know, I understand that Alabama was just down seventeen nothing,

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Speaker 1: and I was ready to talk my talk. I was

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Speaker 1: ready to go out there totally.

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Speaker 3: This Alabama team, You've tried to kill them so many

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Speaker 3: times this season, I have, I have.

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Speaker 1: Look it's because here's here's where I am on Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I think Alabama's a very good foot and statement. Alabama

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Speaker 1: fans haven't realized yet that they're just a very good

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Speaker 1: football program, like they're no longer this separate. Like I

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Speaker 1: always go back to what Michael Junior told me about

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame walking off the bus. And we've heard this before,

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Speaker 1: but Mike told me first, and he said, when you

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Speaker 1: you just felt like, man, that's Alabama. Something was different,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's the certain little seasoning that was

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Speaker 1: left off when Saban left. So now you're just a

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Speaker 1: very good football team, and very good football teams are fallible.

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Speaker 1: I don't think as a program today for the next

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Speaker 1: trying to leave them for dead. It's just that I

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Speaker 1: no longer think they're special. So if I don't think

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Speaker 1: special teams. Not special teams and special teams, but by

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Speaker 1: a special football program. This gets interesting now because to

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Speaker 1: your point, they lose, this is a big drive for

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Speaker 1: Nanna Mendo's has the ball back. We'll see what Indiana

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Speaker 1: This defense is going to make it a nightmare. If

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Speaker 1: they lose any semblance of balance. They being Alabama, this

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Speaker 4: Is there any sense to the idea or any would

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Speaker 4: you buy anything to the effect of Alabama has faced

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Speaker 4: nothing on a good defense in Oklahoma and they've had something.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they did it again. Auburn is bad this year, right,

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Speaker 4: Auburn is not any kind of any kind of competitive

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Speaker 4: in the Iron Bowl against Auburn Alabama did. Is there

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Speaker 4: any logic to the notion that Alabama has been in

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Speaker 4: and that they would just to play again Devil's advocate.

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Speaker 3: I'm actively rooting against this idea.

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Speaker 4: I hope that Alabama that this is finally the place

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Speaker 4: where they slip up too many times and Indiana is

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Speaker 4: the team that gets past them. I have an active

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Speaker 4: rooting interest in this game, but I will acknowledge that Alabama,

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Speaker 4: with a good coaching staff and a lot of talented

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that Ty Simpson is excellent, but he's

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Speaker 4: above average in the right circumstance. I just I don't

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Speaker 4: want to myself underestimate their ability to do this, even

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Speaker 4: though every time I watch them, I look at them

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Speaker 4: and say, yeah, but like, Alabama is the definition of

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Speaker 4: the yeah butt team to me this.

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Speaker 1: Year, and I think all of that is fair. In

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Speaker 1: the Sabman era, part of what made Alabama so hard

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Speaker 1: to beat is that everybody involved on both sidelines believed

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Speaker 1: it done. So it didn't matter if you were beating

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Speaker 1: it's like, now, we're fine, we are Alabama. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: be just fine. I don't think this version of Alabama

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Speaker 1: I don't think that they have that same level of

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Speaker 1: really scary is when both sides look at it and say,

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Speaker 4: nine yard touchdown runs against the Jags or something like that,

437
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Speaker 4: but he can still bludge in the holy hell out

438
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Speaker 4: of it, and he can still stiff arm you into

439
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Speaker 4: the center of the sun, and he can still do

440
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Speaker 4: all of these things to carry your offense. Which is

441
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Speaker 4: why if you're a Ravens fan, you want to grab

442
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Speaker 4: Todd Monkin by the shoulders and just kind of shake

443
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Speaker 4: him and be like, hey, look at him. Hold like Birdbox.

444
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Speaker 4: You've seen bird Box, Hold the movie where there's a

445
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Speaker 4: creature that nobody can see, but apparently it takes over

446
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Speaker 4: your body, turns into these kind of like zombies that

447
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Speaker 4: you have to then go you as a zombie, then

448
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Speaker 4: go and hold somebody's eyes open so they have to

449
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Speaker 4: look at this creature and then they become a zombie

450
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Speaker 4: and the whole thing, right, So somebody needs to take

451
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Speaker 4: Todd Munkin and bird box him while facing the direction

452
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Speaker 4: of Derrick Henry and be like, hey, look at him,

453
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Speaker 4: look at him and understand that this is the guy

454
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Speaker 4: that you're gonna ride if you are to be successful,

455
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Speaker 4: if the Ravens want to win, give Derek the rock.

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Speaker 1: And what stands out to me when you're talking about that,

457
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Speaker 1: Like you covered Derrick Henry and Tennessee. I've only talked

458
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Speaker 1: to him a few times, but I've talked to him

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Speaker 1: this offseason and we did an interview piece for Yahoo

460
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Speaker 1: and it was funny because after the interview piece, I

461
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Speaker 1: was just picking his brain. You know, I've been on

462
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Speaker 1: this fitness journey that is so I love talking to

463
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Speaker 1: people that have really dedicated their life to it. I

464
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Speaker 1: want to find out kind of what you do, you know.

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Speaker 1: So afterwards we were just after the interview was done,

466
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Speaker 1: we were shooting you know what, and I asked him,

467
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Speaker 1: I said, so, what's a splurge day like for you? Calorically?

468
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Speaker 1: What does a splurge day look like? And he laughed

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Speaker 1: and he said, I during the season, I don't have them.

470
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Speaker 1: And I was like, so once once you once you

471
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Speaker 1: hit the beginning of like training for the season. He's like, yeah,

472
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously somebody cooks it for him, but he's like, yeah,

473
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Speaker 1: I eat exactly the same macros every single day. That's

474
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Speaker 1: all decided by a trainer and there's literally no splurge

475
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Speaker 1: and I won't splurge from the day we report to

476
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Speaker 1: camp until the day the season is over. That is

477
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Speaker 1: a level of discipline that it's funny to me because

478
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Speaker 1: you know, I think ninety nine percent of the world

479
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Speaker 1: turns around and says, oh, I want these things like

480
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Speaker 1: I want so many people in the NFL. There are

481
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Speaker 1: running backs in the NFL that want to have the

482
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Speaker 1: career that Derrick Henry have had, but they will not

483
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Speaker 1: have the discipline that Terry Henry has had to have

484
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Speaker 1: that career. So what you're speaking to just speaks to

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Speaker 1: what makes him great. It also speaks to why Todd

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Speaker 1: Munkin is constantly being questioned as whether or not he

487
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Speaker 1: should be an offensive coordinator because if they go in

488
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Speaker 1: and he doesn't get the ball thirty times, I think

489
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Speaker 1: there's real questions to answer as to why that was

490
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Speaker 1: the decision making process. I want to get your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on what all of this means for the future of

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Speaker 1: the head coaching position. But in the meantime, Martin get

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Speaker 1: us caught up on the scoreboard. What's going on right

494
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Speaker 1: now across the landscape.

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Speaker 6: Kurt Signetti has a scowl on his face, but maybe

496
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Speaker 6: he's not watching the game. That's the reason because the

497
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Speaker 6: second and goal right now for the Indiana Hoosiers ten

498
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Speaker 6: nothing to score. They've been dominating this first half thus

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Speaker 6: far in the rolls Ball, Alabama has nothing on the scoreboard.

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Speaker 6: It's sixty four passing yards for Alabama, thirty rushing for

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Speaker 6: the Crimson Tide, their ninth seed in this Indiana was

502
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Speaker 6: the one seed, undefeated, Fernando Mendoza ninety two yards passing

503
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Speaker 6: eighty six yards rush for the Hoosiers thus far. With

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Speaker 6: that Charlie Becker touchdown catch and again about twenty three

505
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Speaker 6: seconds left, second in goal, Indiana knocking on the door,

506
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Speaker 6: trying to make this a seventeen to nothing lead. If

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Speaker 6: it happens while I'm still talking to you, I'll make

508
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Speaker 6: sure you know about it. Oregon advances to twenty three

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Speaker 6: to nothing over Texas, teching the Orange Bowl. Defensive masterpiece

510
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Speaker 6: by the Ducks, shutting down that Red Raider offense that

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Speaker 6: have been.

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Speaker 1: Prolific pretty much all year.

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Speaker 6: Miami beut Ohio State and the Cotton Bowl twenty four

514
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Speaker 6: to fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Miami in the Final four.

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Speaker 6: Now, after all that consternation about them needing an at

517
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Speaker 6: large bid to make the playoff, Notre Dame Miami, that

518
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Speaker 6: took a lot of time. Well they are in the

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Speaker 6: Final four now, so there you go. Ole, Miss and

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Speaker 6: Georgia will play in the Sugar Bowl in the nightcap tonight.

521
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Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson expected to start for the Ravens on Sunday

522
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Speaker 6: against the Steelers. Saints receiver Chris Lave out for the

523
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Speaker 6: finale of the season due to blood clots. Jordan Love

524
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Speaker 6: has cleared concussion protocol, but the Packers are still shutting

525
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Speaker 6: the quarterback down until the playoffs start.

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Speaker 1: They've already kind of locked their in. Buccaneers have not.

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Speaker 1: They need to win to get in.

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Speaker 6: They won't have cornerback Ja Meldan or linebacker Anthony Nelson

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Speaker 6: against the pack avaits the Panthers. Speaking of the Packers,

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Speaker 6: Matt Lafleur said former Dallas cornerback Trayvon Diggs could play

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Speaker 6: for Green Bay against the Vikings on Sunday. He was

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Speaker 6: playing off waivers last I mean earlier this week. Jalen

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Speaker 6: Carter misspractice today with a hip injury, and J D

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Speaker 6: McCarthy was a full participant in today's practice.

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Speaker 1: Back to you guys, well, I can tell you Martin,

536
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Speaker 1: we did get a touchdown, just not quite in time

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Speaker 1: for you. We now have seventeen seconds left to go,

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Speaker 1: sixteen nothing pending the extra point. Is the current score? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Bananda Mendoza with a little playfake throw across the body

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Speaker 1: coop at the touchdown. We are penning the extra point.

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Speaker 1: The kick is up, the kick is good. We are

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Speaker 1: seventeen to nothing with seventeen seconds to go in the

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Speaker 1: first half of this game. Indiana absolutely thumping Alabama as

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Speaker 1: we sit right now. I'll keep you updated on that.

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Speaker 1: He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitzbuck and Fits hanging in

546
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Speaker 1: for Cavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. So here's

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Speaker 1: where it gets tricky with the Ravens and the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Buck I because this is what everybody's gonna do on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Whichever team loses this game on Monday, the top, the

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Speaker 1: top story on most TV shows is going to be

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Speaker 1: is losing coach about to be fired? Is the Tomlin

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Speaker 1: era over in Pittsburgh. Is the Harbaugh era over with

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Speaker 1: the Ravens? And you and I have talked a lot

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Speaker 1: about why we both think that's asinine. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that Sunday will actually be the moment

556
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Speaker 1: that everybody thinks it will be, because if the argument

557
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Speaker 1: is that the Steelers and the Ravens are unhappy with

558
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Speaker 1: where their coaching situation is, I don't think simply making

559
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Speaker 1: the playoffs changes that. If they are on the If

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Speaker 1: anybody truly believes that the Steelers or the Ravens are

561
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Speaker 1: on the precipice of firing their head coach, my question

562
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Speaker 1: is if all they do is make the playoffs and

563
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Speaker 1: then they get boat raced by three touchdowns, what really changed.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the Steelers are a good football team.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they are this year. The Ravens have

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Speaker 1: played like a poor football team. They are who they

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Speaker 1: are at this point. Neither of these football teams have

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Speaker 1: been good enough. So I think where some people are

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Speaker 1: getting lost is they're turning it into loser leaves town,

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Speaker 1: coach lose his job. I'm not sure if you believe

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Speaker 1: that either franchise is truly on the precipice of that

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Speaker 1: sort of change. I'm not sure simply winning this weekend

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Speaker 1: will change that. You'd have to go in and at

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Speaker 1: least look competitive in the playoffs to sort of stop

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Speaker 1: whatever this conversation is. And even that, I don't know

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Speaker 1: who's going to work.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if Pittsburgh, for example, were to get into

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Speaker 4: the playoffs and win the first playoff game since twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 4: does that really stop the Mike Tomlin stuff.

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Speaker 1: If they win a playoff game.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you think it stops the Tomlin stuff. I don't

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Speaker 3: think so.

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Speaker 4: Like if he wins our playoff game but then loses

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Speaker 4: in the say they're the wild card or a they're

586
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Speaker 4: playing wild Card weekend, hosting wild Card Weekend, and they

587
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Speaker 4: advance to the divisional round and they get smacked by

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Speaker 4: whomever is waiting for them in the divisional round or

589
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Speaker 4: and I mean theoretically they don't have to get smacked,

590
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Speaker 4: but say they lose a close game or something like that.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that quiet sound Pittsburgh fans about Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it does at all. I think it

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Speaker 4: you know, I think it's probably whatever grace he has

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Speaker 4: from the organization, and by the way, he should get

595
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Speaker 4: every grace in the world. I understand that Steelers fans

596
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Speaker 4: have higher standards than the vast majority of the NFL

597
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Speaker 4: fan basis. I respect them for it. I respect them

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Speaker 4: tremendously for it. I can also slightly disagree with the

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Speaker 4: idea that they can improve their standing by moving on

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Speaker 4: from Mike Tomlin, because I know what the rest of

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Speaker 4: NFL coaching looks like. I cover the Tennessee Titans. Okay,

602
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 4: there's a lot of bad coaching out there. It can

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Speaker 4: go very very sideways, very very quick. If you think

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Speaker 4: that Mike Rabel's not a good enough coach and you

605
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Speaker 4: move on from him because you want the next Sean

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Speaker 4: McVay Kyle Shanahan, offensive play caller, head coaching type, and

607
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Speaker 4: you hire Brian Callahan, and then you proceed to poop

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Speaker 4: yourself for the preceding two years, and Mike Rabel comes

609
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Speaker 4: back as the Patriots coach and whips your ass. Wouldn't

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Speaker 4: you hate that if you were a Pittsburgh Steelers fan

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Speaker 4: and Mike Tomlin, maybe he doesn't jump right back in.

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Speaker 4: So let's just let's play this hypothetical out a little

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Speaker 4: bit Mike Tomlin organization decides, you know, Mike, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: let you leave on your terms. We're not gonna announce

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Speaker 4: it as a firing, but if you would like to

616
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Speaker 4: go in a different direction, we would also think that

617
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 4: it would be beneficial for us. Like you don't have

618
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 4: to like it doesn't have to be a firing squad

619
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Speaker 4: type of situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So Mike Tomlin, maybe he looks around and says, nah, Raiders, Titans, Giants.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel good about any of that.

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Speaker 4: And even if I did feel okay about cam Ward

624
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Speaker 4: or Jackson Dart, maybe I just take a year. Maybe

625
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Speaker 4: I do what Mike McCarthy's done a couple of times

626
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Speaker 4: at this point in time and sit out a year.

627
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Speaker 4: Maybe I do what Ben Johnson did. Ben Johnson went

628
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Speaker 4: back to the Lions and was the coordinator again for

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Speaker 4: a year. After looking around at some of the job openings,

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Speaker 4: it said, you know what, it's not better than what

631
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Speaker 4: I've got going on here in Detroit. Let me go

632
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 4: and win a Super Bowl. I'll put my name back

633
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Speaker 4: in at the appropriate time when the appropriate job becomes available.

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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin, will I think have a similar path, And

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Speaker 4: I think It's far more likely for the thirsty ass

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Speaker 4: fan bases who are out here thinking that Mike Tomlin

637
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Speaker 4: would be available for them than to hire. I think

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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin's gonna look it around at some of the openings,

639
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Speaker 4: and I'm sure there will be one that surprises us

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Speaker 4: this year. Vegas isn't open yet, but I don't know

641
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Speaker 4: it really. It feels like it's starting in that direction.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And you would know better than I I am. I

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Speaker 4: am looking at Mike Tomlin, who would have the opportunity

645
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Speaker 4: to rejuvenate himself after many, many years of doing this

646
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 4: and one of the toughest divisions in football, takes a

647
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 4: year off, comes back and just beats a snot out

648
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Speaker 4: of the Steelers at the first opportunity. I think that

649
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Speaker 4: is a disaster scenario. I feel the same. I feel

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Speaker 4: less so that way about Harball. Not like I don't

651
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 4: think John Harball's a bad coach or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just think Mike Tomlin is going to be the

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Speaker 4: next Mike Vrabel in that type of situation. Don't be

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Speaker 4: so quick to move on from something that you think

656
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Speaker 4: has hit a ceiling unless you think that the perpetual

657
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Speaker 4: level of competitiveness is keeping you from one bottoming out

658
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Speaker 4: the way that you need to completely reset the board

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Speaker 4: and actually build back up towards your championship window.

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Speaker 1: This is again that where I will remind the world

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Steelers have a Mike Tomlin problem.

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00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers have a quarterback problem, and nothing

663
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: this year is going to change that. Now. I know

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers isn't the reason that they've lost games here,

665
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Speaker 1: but hear me out. The whole argument is that at

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Speaker 1: some point you had to reset at the quarterback position,

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Speaker 1: and they simply haven't. As we've talked about before, they

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Speaker 1: drafted Kenny Pickett. They tried. They drafted Kenny Pickett, who

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Speaker 1: is the best available of a bad crop of quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in their mind. At that point, they got it wrong.

671
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Speaker 1: The quarterback spot happens to franchises all the time. Ever

672
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Speaker 1: since then, they haven't been in anywhere near a remote

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Speaker 1: opportunity to select a quarterback. The only real quarterback that

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Speaker 1: has been attainable for them in the rookie classes that

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Speaker 1: they did not draft was Jackson Dart all right. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the Giants chose to trade back up in the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the first So there's really a Jackson Dark conversation

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Speaker 1: if you if you think that not drafting Jackson Dart

679
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Speaker 1: was so consequential that you should fire your head coach,

680
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: then yeah, you fire Tomlin. Otherwise, I think where it

681
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: gets failed as everybody says, well, you gotta go get

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, Okay, who And maybe the answer to to

683
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Speaker 1: many Steelers fans is well, you didn't go out and

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Speaker 1: get Sam Darnold. You didn't go out and get Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: Like there are guys that may be in free agency

686
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Speaker 1: you could have reached too. I think a lot of

687
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Speaker 1: people didn't see that the right way. So for me,

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Speaker 1: the hardest part about this is that you're not gonna

689
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Speaker 1: get suddenly like nothing is going to be fixed for

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. And that's just a blanket statement, y'all. Like

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Speaker 1: the Steelers at the end of this season. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: say they win the division, they go to the playoffs,

693
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Speaker 1: they get their asses kicked in the first round. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you still have a three seven and twenty two year

695
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: old quarterback, and you still don't have the things that

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Speaker 1: you need around the explosive play making. You still have

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Speaker 1: the most expensive defense in the NFL that didn't diddlely

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Speaker 1: poop with it, right, so you've got all right.

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Speaker 4: Fine, the lung of the star pass rusher. Let's let's

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Speaker 4: that's a rear clarification.

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Speaker 1: The defense was playing poorly before they you know, but

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Speaker 1: I look around at all that they think, okay, great,

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Speaker 1: so you fire Tomlin? Now what yeah, what do you

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Speaker 1: do if if we are in a and we don't

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Speaker 1: know right now, if we are in a spot where

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Speaker 1: you know, Ty Simpson decides he's going to come back,

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Speaker 1: and Dante Moore decides he's going to come back, you

708
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: could make the argument there is only one quarterback that

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Speaker 1: would be worth taking in the first round of the

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Speaker 1: NFL draft this year. Steelers are not going to have

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Speaker 1: any remote shot at that number one quarterback no matter

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Speaker 1: who their coaches next year. So all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you don't like I hate to be the bearer of

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Speaker 1: bad news here, guys, but if you look at the

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Speaker 1: list of free agent names available at the quarterback position

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Speaker 1: next year, Malik Willis, you think Malik Willis is going

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Speaker 1: to fix the Pittsburgh Steelers. Also, you willing to pay

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis top dollar because there are so many teams

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Speaker 1: that need a quarterback. Malik Willis is going to end

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Speaker 1: up in that forty to fifty million dollar ach.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, stop it, he's not there.

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Speaker 1: He'll let it fort it. He'll end up in forty million.

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Speaker 1: Watch it. You just watched some this off season. Some

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Speaker 1: dumbass is gonna give Milik Willis a two year forty million. No,

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Speaker 1: come on, it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Well, what what did Fields get? Did did Fields get

727
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Speaker 3: that deal? No?

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Speaker 1: He got no? No, it feels got like twenty million.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, he's more. He's way more likely to get

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Speaker 3: a justin Field. Get out of here. Forty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: You drossed.

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Speaker 1: Someone's gonna do. There's nobody, there's no work.

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Speaker 3: You quit drinking, but there's nobody available.

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Speaker 1: There's nobody.

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Speaker 3: No, that doesn't mean that you just pay the guy

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Speaker 3: that is available. Forty million dollars. That's insane.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'll look it up. We'll look I'll look

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Speaker 1: up what the cap numbers look like. We'll figure out

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Speaker 1: what Malik Willis is actually gonna get paid. He's buck

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Speaker 1: rising out. Jason Fitzer hanging out with you on Fox

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Speaker 1: The way tirebody should be. Okay, maybe not forty million

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Speaker 1: for Malik William will Malik Willis, I'll give you thirty

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Speaker 1: million by the card we get to the inflation next year,

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Speaker 1: I'll get you. I mean, Gino next year was scheduled

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00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: to make twenty six and a half. Right, so you know,

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Speaker 1: if you look at right where the the level of

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Speaker 1: suck teams are. I'm just here's the thing. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Here are the list of free agent quarterbacks as we

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Speaker 1: stand right now. Now, look, some people will say, Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray's going to be added to this list. Fine, Cardinals fans,

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00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: tell me who you're replacing Kyler Murray with. Again, in

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Speaker 1: my scenario of only one quarterback comes out for the draft,

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Speaker 1: who are you replacing Kyler Murray with if you don't

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Speaker 1: have a shot at Nana Mendoz So we're not.

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Speaker 4: Going to turn this into Malik Willie said, Willis is

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Speaker 4: gonna make forty million dollars from the bumb ass team,

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Speaker 4: then just looks are thirty is insane? You are insane.

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Speaker 4: I love Malik. I I again, Malik got drafted here

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Speaker 4: in Tennessee. I they did wrong, but I mean they

767
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 4: did wrong by a great many players, and Malik Willis

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00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 4: was viewed as you can't be a bust as a

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Speaker 4: third round flyer at quarterback. But I would be so

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00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 4: happy if Malake Willis would be able to be vindicated

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Speaker 4: that way, would be able to perform at that level

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00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 4: and would be paid thirty million dollars a year. I'm

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Speaker 4: telling you that there is not a snowballs chance in

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Speaker 4: hell that that actually happens this offseason. I know you

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00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 4: don't drink anymore, I'm still gonna ask you if you're drunk.

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Speaker 1: I am not drunk, and I think the edibles from

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00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: last night have left my system, but I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: The list of free agent quarterbacks available for next season

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Speaker 1: for everybody that needs a quarterback, Daniel Jones, who I

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Speaker 1: believe is going to resign with the Colts, so I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take him off the list. Aaron Rodgers, Wait.

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Speaker 4: Wait, wait, wait, slow down, Slow the hell down. You

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Speaker 4: think Daniel Jones is going to end up back in Indianapolis?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yea yeah, why why not? I think Shane Steiken

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Speaker 1: found the guy that he thinks can be the quarterback

786
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Speaker 1: for him.

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Speaker 4: Does that matter if Chris Ballard finally gets fired the

788
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 4: way that he should have been fired many many years ago.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think they're going to use the meltdown

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Speaker 1: of injury as a reason to keep all the same Daniel.

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Speaker 1: And also I would.

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Speaker 3: They bring it in?

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Speaker 1: Who they bring it in? Who they getting instead? Malik Willis?

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Speaker 1: All right, now we got a bidding war from Malik Willis.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones can't play next year anyway in all likelihoods,

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Speaker 1: so I think they do a very friendly two year

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00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: deal with the third year option. Aaron Rodgers available next year,

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00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: likely only going to go back to Pittsburgh. And that's

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Speaker 1: who we're talking about replacing in this situation. The rest

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Speaker 1: of your available quarterbacks next year in free agency, Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota, Zach Wilson to Rod Taylor, Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco,

802
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Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky, Trey Lance. Oh sorry I left Case, Keenum

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Speaker 1: and Trey Lance off the list.

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Speaker 3: Trey Lance, I'll hear you on Trey Lance.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. This is where we are.

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Speaker 1: That's why Malik Willis is gonna get overpaid. Because there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be seven teams that need a quarterback. They're all

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Speaker 1: going to try and trade for mac Jones. The forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers aren't gonna let mac Jones be traded for

810
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Speaker 1: because they need the backup quarterback. What about who?

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Speaker 3: What about your door?

812
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Speaker 4: Like if the if the I don't think Shador Sanders

813
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Speaker 4: has been great by any stretch of the imagination, and

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Speaker 4: maybe he's good enough that Cleveland would.

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Speaker 3: Just be like, now you know what, We'll keep him

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Speaker 3: around as a fifth round pick.

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Speaker 4: It didn't really cost us anything to draft the guy,

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Speaker 4: beyond maybe some bad headlines and some accusations that you

819
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Speaker 4: can say are fair or unfair of Kevin Stefanski in

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Speaker 4: the organization about the way that they handled that entire

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Speaker 4: situation the whole way through. But if I'm the Browns,

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Speaker 4: I'm looking around at Shadoor and be like he played

823
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Speaker 4: well enough for us to get something better a pick,

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Speaker 4: a better pick back for him, then we spent on him.

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Speaker 4: The rare situation where you could actually do that, because

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Speaker 4: you've got a quarterback who's outperforming his I think he's

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Speaker 4: outperforming it anyway, his fifth round draft slot. Why wouldn't

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Speaker 4: you just try and trade for Shador.

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Speaker 1: Who's going to be their quarterback? Then? Yeah, Dylan Gabriel

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Speaker 1: or Deshaun. I mean, here's the funny thing. Last year.

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Speaker 1: Last year was the last year of Deshaun's real hell

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Speaker 1: for the for the Browns. He's thirty one years old,

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Speaker 1: with the salary cap number of eighty point seven million dollars,

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Speaker 1: it goes, it goes way down after. Like I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: I genuine to your point. I think that next year

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Speaker 1: we're gonna walk into a situation where Deshaun Watson and

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Speaker 1: Shador Sanders are competing to be the starting quarterback for

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Speaker 1: the Browns. They don't have a clear path to another one.

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Speaker 1: Ste fancy he's going to be back and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be dealing yet again with the nightmare scenario at the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position.

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Speaker 4: Oh eureka, I've got another another Titans cast off.

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Speaker 3: That will do somewhere else? What about Will Levis? Who

844
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Speaker 3: wants Will Levis?

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Speaker 4: Somebody give Will love, Somebody trade a seventh round pick

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Speaker 4: for Will Levis?

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Speaker 3: How about that?

848
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Speaker 1: I want to be clear here, Buck. This weekend, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna watch Kenny Pickett and Aidan O'Connell split reps for

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Speaker 1: the Raiders against the Chiefs. I would rather watch that

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Speaker 1: than Will Levis.

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Speaker 4: Like, that's I am so far stopping.

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Speaker 1: I mean that, I mean that I would what you've

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Speaker 1: just said. I would take Aidan O'Connell over Will Levis

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Speaker 1: twice awesome days. That's where we are, Like, that's.

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Speaker 3: Where I'm not that bad.

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Speaker 4: He's just a little hit chaotic that maybe needs to

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Speaker 4: rewire his brain. Yeah, so what I need to get

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Speaker 4: him and you get him in the bottomy, You're fine.

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Speaker 1: I need a quarterback that doesn't play well but needs

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Speaker 1: to be emotionally supported even through that. That's my worst nightmare.

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Speaker 1: There is not a chance that I want Will Levice

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Speaker 1: as my favorite team's card is started quarterback. We'll get

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Speaker 1: you updated on an actual football game taking place right now.

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Speaker 1: Bama losing to Indiana. What does it mean for the

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Speaker 1: college football playoff? We'll answer that next up Fox Sports Radio,