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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club morning, everybody is Steve j n V. Charlamagne

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Speaker 2: the Guy, just hilarious. We are the Breakfast Club and

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Speaker 2: we got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed

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Speaker 2: we have Rodriguez.

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Speaker 3: Think I think I am the Latin person what we

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Speaker 3: call now Latin a Latin X next right, I think

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Speaker 3: I think I think I'm the Latin person that's been

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Speaker 3: on the show the most, like my seventh time Dominican.

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Speaker 2: I know here on the weekend Weekend Dominican.

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Speaker 1: I think you're fat.

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Speaker 3: Joe, and I mean fat Joe is Joey crack.

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Speaker 1: You're never not working new book? Legitimate kid, you know what?

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Speaker 3: I was laughing because she said that books are the

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Speaker 3: new this record. Yes, yeah, and it is because I'm

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Speaker 3: just in my mama.

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Speaker 1: And daddy in this Jesus right, Jesus.

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Speaker 3: I'm holding them accountable, but I'm not never this my mam,

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Speaker 3: mom as my queen.

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Speaker 1: Why do you call it legitimate kid?

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Speaker 3: Because kids in the in the hood are evil. And

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Speaker 3: when I was little, a kid told me I was

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Speaker 3: a bastard because I didn't have my father's last name. Jesus,

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Speaker 3: and I found out what it meant, and then I

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Speaker 3: was I felt less than and so I went on

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Speaker 3: a journey to find my legitimacy. And I want all

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Speaker 3: the little kids that grow up in the hood that

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Speaker 3: hear this. Your daddy didn't sign your birth certificate. That

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Speaker 3: doesn't make you legitimate. That that term comes from prostitution.

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Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with legitimacy, I mean with

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Speaker 3: with parental presence in your life. It yeah, that came

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Speaker 3: being a legitimate came from them saying children that were

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Speaker 3: born to prostitutes were not legitimate. But then they weaponized

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Speaker 3: that against people of color, poor people, And so I

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Speaker 3: wanted to find out more about myself because that affected

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Speaker 3: the way I dealt with men, you know, my life

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Speaker 3: wanted to I want everybody who reads that book to

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Speaker 3: know that they are legitimate.

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Speaker 1: Now we said something back to the boy or what

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Speaker 1: was what was the joke? Back to the boy? You

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Speaker 1: had something for nah?

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Speaker 3: You know you know my joke. I was when I

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Speaker 3: was a kid. I was meek when I was little.

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Speaker 3: This didn't happen til like this was in elementary. I

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Speaker 3: didn't get gully till middle school started. You know, peeping

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Speaker 3: the pro wings. You're too young to know what that is. Okay,

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Speaker 3: nikkers from pay less that the poor people used to.

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Speaker 1: It was cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was cool when you now when we was kids,

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Speaker 3: that was food stamps.

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Speaker 1: You probably had them swagged out there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I did the flailix. Somebody could see that they

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Speaker 4: was play less year just a tip. You can see

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Speaker 2: But now talk about the journey of finding your dad

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Speaker 2: and finding your history.

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Speaker 3: So you know what my I went to the Dominican Republic.

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Speaker 3: I did the documentary that's on HBO and my father.

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Speaker 3: You know, when I met my father, my father asked

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Speaker 3: And my father lives in the Dominican Republic. He's been

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Speaker 3: I was like, yo, he is poor. His child came

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Speaker 2: The first, you know, fourth question you want to know

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Speaker 1: The first three questions? First, what was the first thing? Questions?

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Speaker 3: You know. The first thing he asked me, he asked

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Speaker 3: I didn't talk to him for a minute. And you know,

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Speaker 3: recording a documentary. We were in production, and so all

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Speaker 3: those people heard it and they were like, oh, they

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Speaker 1: Did you give money? I did?

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Speaker 4: Why did I know I'm.

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Speaker 3: Not going to say that, but you know, I just

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Speaker 3: I was paying him to go away at that moment.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm just because I know he's struggling.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, this is it. This is the

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Speaker 3: then I had to go through some work, some in work.

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Speaker 1: Did you learn any because did you learn to give

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Speaker 3: Yes, my mom absolutely. You know who knows what my

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Speaker 3: think we got it right. You think that because you're

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Speaker 3: I just I learned to My mom had her first

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Speaker 3: I found out when I was writing the book, and

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Speaker 3: playing Russian roulette. So that was all before I was

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Speaker 3: how I'm gonna sit here and judge my mother, Like,

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Speaker 1: The traumas and stuff she was dealing with. You know,

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Speaker 3: Born into it and so and it was generational. My

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Speaker 3: mom was sexually abused at home, so she was trying

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Speaker 1: I'd have walked in here and was telling us about

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Speaker 1: an interview she did with Gail King.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she said, girl, you've been through some things, you

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Speaker 3: know what. It's interesting though.

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Speaker 1: She read the book.

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Speaker 3: And I did an interview a couple of days ago

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Speaker 3: with somebody who didn't read the book. And when I

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Speaker 3: And I was like, I disrespect people that were like,

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Speaker 3: But she was like you so, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: Who is that? Who is that?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: You know what? Ess?

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Speaker 2: And I walked in, Jess and I walked in and

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Speaker 2: Charlemagne was looking at the book. And he was very

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Speaker 2: interested in the chapter that said pizza and penis.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the one that I went straight.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to know about carlos I heard that was

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Speaker 3: I wanted to know what was with him.

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Speaker 1: We definitely talked about Carlosza.

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Speaker 4: But he saw pizza and penis and he didn't even

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Speaker 1: To ask about this, you need to get into.

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Speaker 3: You know what's funny, it's Gael Kinge was like that.

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Speaker 3: She was like, I enjoyed this chapter. The chapter is

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Speaker 1: Ship ahead.

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Speaker 3: This is y'all got some good chemistry. It's you know

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Speaker 3: it was it was I was just I want people

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Speaker 3: the stuff I've been through to read this and say

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be all right. I didn't want, I don't want.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to do trauma porn Like it's not

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Speaker 3: It's every turn is me turning around and say I'm

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Speaker 3: this is how those things became jokes.

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Speaker 1: You think a comedian can even have material without trauma.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think we have a spectrum of comedy and

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Speaker 3: we need Simba was not trauma driven, and we love

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Speaker 3: Simbat and undeniably one of the funniest. Shout clean, yeah

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Speaker 3: he's healing. Yeah, clean comedy. I do think. So we

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Speaker 3: to have comedians who are lighthearted and do jokes about things.

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Speaker 3: our We ain't have a Carrot Top. Like Carrot Top

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Speaker 1: Yeah and brown, a certain privilege that comes with being

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Speaker 3: We need one. We need somebody walking around with props.

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Speaker 1: And ship just you know, Kevin is the closest thing

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Speaker 1: we got the cat Ken show.

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Speaker 2: No prepare him to Kevin Hart, because Kevin Hart talks

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Speaker 3: I'm just talking about like man, you got mad.

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Speaker 1: He got kicked out of the Kevin Hart Show. You

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Never kicked the dumb ass out because he recorded.

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Speaker 2: Was not recorded?

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Speaker 3: But did you get kicked out?

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Speaker 1: I did get kicked out. I was trying to bootleg

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Speaker 1: the show was not It's not true. It was actually

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Speaker 1: Philly Kevin. Kevin was performing.

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Speaker 2: My phone started to ring, so they tell you in

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Speaker 2: no shows do not pull your phone out. But you know,

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Speaker 2: when you got kids, when your phone ring, you pick

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Speaker 2: it up. So I went to try to pick it up,

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Speaker 2: like kind of on the low. But you know what,

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Speaker 2: the light is bright. Sure did kick my ass out?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin see me getting kicked out too.

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Speaker 1: It was like I MBC later. I have no problem

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Speaker 1: with that whatsoever. Wow, Now talk to us about how

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Speaker 1: junkies and prostitutes assisted jama.

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Speaker 3: My mom was the person she was dating at the

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Speaker 3: time beat her. She was pregnant and he left her

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Speaker 3: and saved her life. So she's she's my mother is

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Speaker 3: not a respective of persons. She lives. She lives that

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Speaker 1: People, what are you writing the book teach you about illegitimacy?

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Speaker 3: Well, if you read the book, then you would see

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Speaker 3: Know, it depends on who you are allowed. I mean

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Speaker 1: it like we know some nasty. Yeah, some nasty day

438
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Speaker 1: we do too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, so if it goes both ways, I believe

441
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Speaker 1: in the concept. But if you're only just saying that

442
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Speaker 1: to a woman, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I respect that, and that's all things have

444
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Speaker 3: to be fair.

445
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Speaker 1: You know.

446
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 3: They love to count women's partners. You'll say, oh, she

447
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 3: was with such a such, but then you see the

448
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 3: dudes and you're like, but damn, like he's been with everybody,

449
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Speaker 3: but he gets praised for that, you know what I mean,

450
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 3: you had that, you had her, and then it's like

451
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Speaker 3: you messed with him. Yeah, And I don't know, like,

452
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Speaker 3: do you use condoms with everybody? You know, like it's

453
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Speaker 3: it's it's we do. Yeah. So I think that if

454
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Speaker 3: you're gonna use holes, let it be across the board.

455
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Speaker 2: But if you take that holes out too, because we

456
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Speaker 2: use it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to come up here and

458
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Speaker 3: act like I'm pious, like I'm some you know, we

459
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Speaker 3: don't do that. We'll be calling people holes too. But

460
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Speaker 3: we we talk about dudes like we talk about women.

461
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Speaker 1: We're not.

462
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Speaker 3: We're not just sitting here.

463
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Speaker 1: You know.

464
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Speaker 3: Women love to do that too, because women, we they

465
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Speaker 3: have socialized us to hate each other. So when we

466
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Speaker 3: we love to call other women you know I'm not

467
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Speaker 3: like that, Yes you are. You've had your moments. Stop it.

468
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Speaker 1: And also the other thing about the whole and nobody

469
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Speaker 1: would know who's doing what if everybody would just shut

470
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Speaker 1: the fuck up, Like, how do you even find out

471
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Speaker 1: a person as a whole? Who's is every guy saying

472
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Speaker 1: that they slept with this everybody? Yeah, and you've been

473
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Speaker 1: there before. I'm probably in your youngest South Carolina. Most

474
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Speaker 1: of these guys tho you got to be a guy.

475
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Speaker 1: He's lying like like like, oh you hit No.

476
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Speaker 3: You know that my partner saying it's talked.

477
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Speaker 1: About the need to shut up.

478
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Speaker 3: The thing is like, do you really care? Like, honestly,

479
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 3: the thing about social media that's really been my management

480
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 3: is always like you're really terrible at social media. And

481
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 3: but I'll say this, like I'm always watching people like

482
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Speaker 3: the people who are like I'm letting the haters know

483
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Speaker 3: nobody cares like people who are like I'll show them

484
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Speaker 3: who you showing.

485
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Speaker 1: People look at.

486
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Speaker 3: It, they'll comment, they'll talk about it, and then they

487
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: move on to the next thing because it's they're consuming it,

488
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 3: like the ritos they don't care. You put so much

489
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Speaker 3: effort into shutting your haters down. God blessed James Hannah,

490
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: a brilliant comedian who passed away. He used to say

491
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Speaker 3: people of colors haters are their imaginary friends, because it

492
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Speaker 3: was like they don't exist. He was like, it's it's

493
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Speaker 3: you know, we put so much, we put so much

494
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Speaker 3: weight on that. Do you really care? It's something I

495
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Speaker 3: don't care. Who's a whole? Like they talk about j

496
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Speaker 3: Lo all the time, and I'm like, what does it?

497
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Speaker 3: How does that affect my food?

498
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Speaker 4: Like?

499
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Speaker 3: How does that affect my mama? Give a damn? Like

500
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 3: it's it's far. It's for a minute and then you

501
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 3: move on. So just remember when you are directing all

502
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 3: that energy to the people who you really think you're

503
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 3: shutting down, they don't care. Nobody cares.

504
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Speaker 1: That's right now, it's almost the holidays. These memoirs cause problems.

505
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how does your family feel about you revealing

506
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: so much in the book.

507
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I think the only people who

508
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 3: read the book so far my aunt and uncle, the

509
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: normal ones that are in DC, because the half of

510
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 3: my family is in Florida and the other half is

511
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 3: in like the DC Virginia and the DMV and yeah,

512
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 3: they're the normal ones, so they're cool. They all right,

513
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna read them. I'm gonna sit with my mom

514
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Speaker 3: and go through the book because I want to make

515
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Speaker 3: sure that my mom is in Yeah. I can't, I don't.

516
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 3: I don't ever want to demonize her. So I want

517
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Speaker 3: her to understand where that came from. And I'm gonna

518
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Speaker 3: read the back first with her, because you know, I

519
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: give her grace throughout the book, but I want her

520
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 3: to know that she's still the queen.

521
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: Wow, are you dreading that conversation?

522
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: It needs to be had. She still has to be accountable.

523
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 3: She was still my mom, you know, like I still did.

524
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: I still went through a lot of stuff in life,

525
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 3: you know, as a kid, and she should you know,

526
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: she's she said to me, I'm so sorry for the

527
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: things that I put you through. I was, I was

528
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Speaker 3: a kid. But you know, I think it's it's a

529
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,959
Speaker 3: necessary conversation for us to heal. She needs to forgive

530
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: her mother. She's still holding on to things about my

531
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: grand and my grandmother is dead. I'm like, bro, you

532
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: gotta let it go. Like she's she's gone, you know,

533
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Speaker 3: And you just you have to move on.

534
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's too many things that are more

535
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Speaker 1: free and than apology from your parents.

536
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Speaker 3: I got it.

537
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Speaker 1: That's why I say I apologize now as a father

538
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Speaker 1: to you my young kids, just because I know how

539
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: I felt. They never hear that from a parent. You

540
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: feel like mighty did you dirt? Yeah?

541
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Speaker 3: And amnesia. Like my mom used to beat my ass,

542
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,959
Speaker 3: and now when I talk about it, she's like, I

543
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 3: never hit you, And I'm like, what this is revisionist

544
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 3: history at its best. She used to beat I mean

545
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 3: I she she fractured my ankle. I wrote an she

546
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: did my mother was because my mom got hit with

547
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: an extension chord too, so she felt like because she

548
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: hit us with a belt that it wasn't and it wasn't.

549
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 3: But I was like, yo, and I switched my ground

550
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: that my grandmother we used to and so that's a

551
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 3: that's a people of color things, and Spanish is called

552
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 3: la ladita and they be like and she'll go go

553
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 3: get go, get your switch. And that was There was

554
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 3: no winning in that. There was not a switch that

555
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 3: didn't hurt, that didn't exist.

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Speaker 2: You know, Jesus, all right, The book is out right

557
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Speaker 2: now make sure you get it.

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Speaker 1: Us.

559
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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I appreciate y'all.

560
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: You got coming up. You always working.

561
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 3: So I'm directing another special comedy special. I'm trying to

562
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Speaker 3: direct as many women of color comedy special because I

563
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 3: want to them to get out. Marcella's did really well

564
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: on HBO. I'm doing one with Gina Brion. I'm shooting

565
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: her special in December. And I'm developing two TV shows

566
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Speaker 3: because I want to. I want to not just work,

567
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 3: but I want to be surrounded by people who look

568
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: like me, sound like me, you know, people of color,

569
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 3: black people, and I want to I want to put

570
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Speaker 3: some people to work there. So I'm developing the shows

571
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Speaker 3: right now, and I'm getting ready to direct this special. Dope,

572
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Speaker 3: amazing congratulation.

573
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Speaker 1: Thank you Rodriguez, get legitimate kid right now. And it's

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Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club, Good morning, and the book is not

575
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Speaker 1: funny in the morning, Breakfast Club