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Speaker 1: No, I'm saying, you don't think you're supposed to get

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Speaker 2: I mean, but yeah they are. And that's how I

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Speaker 2: know they can't be paying that much. And and it's

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Speaker 2: it's at the end of the day, this is Nick

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Speaker 2: Cannon presents.

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Speaker 3: One that they felt that.

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Speaker 2: When I tell you, when I first got on Wilding Out,

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Speaker 2: they said they were gonna give three episodes, That's all

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Speaker 2: I was touted to do. Contract can make you realize

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Speaker 3: Did Wilding Out help establish you finance man financially.

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Speaker 2: When I say they was telling me that I was

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Speaker 2: only going to do three agreement, Yeah, it was just a.

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Speaker 3: Word a word amount.

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Speaker 2: This is one of the head producers that said we

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Speaker 2: were only going to give you like three shows at worst.

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Speaker 2: Could have he could have got it. I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: at the time when he got us. Nigga could have

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Speaker 2: what I mean, without questioning, could have put us in

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Speaker 2: a seven twenty three sixty about being signed to a rapper,

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Speaker 2: like you know the rappers signed to end a score

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Speaker 2: and so now everything that he is, you know, gotta

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Speaker 2: be subscribed. To you announce subscribe to that and his turn,

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Speaker 2: Like I said about the contracts, they could have got us.

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Speaker 2: You right about that, without question. They could have got

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Speaker 2: then even some of the that we did sign was.

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Speaker 1: Like, Hi, they fired him that time? How did that work?

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Speaker 2: I mean shit, that was above our pay grade. To

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Speaker 1: I mean remember that time, bro, When then when he

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Speaker 4: Nick Cannon has been terminated accused of making anti Semitic

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Speaker 4: Cannon's remarks hateful speech fired him as the host of

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Speaker 4: The controversy erupted after the thirty nine year old TV

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Speaker 4: Personalities bizarre interview with former Public Enemy rapper Richard Griffin that.

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Speaker 2: He appreciated and respected about us being the you know,

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Speaker 2: We let it be known like man, oh, he still

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Speaker 2: in regards to the fact that he is one thing

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Speaker 3: That's what I was.

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Speaker 1: That's and if he's done that for y'all, it's very.

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Speaker 4: I mean you.

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Speaker 2: Because this was one of the funniest shows and that

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Speaker 2: Man West Philadelphia born and raised, I'm like, I know,

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Speaker 3: You know, it's so different way. How do you are

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Speaker 3: you Are you in competition?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not in competition with anybody because I'm just

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Speaker 1: But that that does that I'm saying, the market right,

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Speaker 1: So there's there's market share.

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Speaker 2: I can't be concerned with nothing of nobody else. The

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Speaker 2: So a lot of the sensitivity that you know I

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Speaker 2: That's what these niggas is doing. So I don't I'm

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Speaker 2: not even putting myself in that category. I'm not in

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Speaker 2: But as far as my blessings, I have a perspective

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Speaker 2: That's another thing about this game, Like it's about relationships

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Speaker 1: And we was just talking about the idea. It's like, Yo,

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Speaker 3: But when it's time to work, it's work time. It's

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Speaker 2: It's when I'm always conducting myself in work time, in

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Speaker 2: I see a lot of niggas chasing in this competition,

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Speaker 2: if you will. Niggas is chasing what they say you

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Speaker 1: But then that means that there's a lie being told

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Speaker 1: I think because again I'm high consumption and I've read

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Speaker 1: For me coming from where I come from, and I

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Speaker 3: But because I've came from.

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Speaker 1: You say that when you don't want to be sure

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Speaker 2: Not even that you get cut in that you get

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Speaker 2: they trying to try. Because it's an improvisational show. So

438
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 2: you in this room like this, and everybody who's supposed

439
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 2: to be on the show's working, they move and trying

440
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 2: to you know. Basically, you know, it's like the what's

441
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: the name of the show that come on Hard Knocks

442
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 2: if you will, you know how you're watching Hard Knocks

443
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 2: and they start off with a whole bunch of people

444
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 2: and then when the season starts and they're doing cuts

445
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: and all of that. That's what basically workshops. Yeah, that

446
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 2: type of ship. So we're doing that, and you know,

447
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: we're doing our thing in that. But still it's only

448
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 2: a certain amount of slots that they can give because

449
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: you got the OG's coming back and they you know,

450
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 2: they got to show them because they feel like that's

451
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: what they need. They got to have the Yeah, they

452
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: got a following, so we need them eyes to be

453
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: able to watch this show because they don't.

454
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: Take a lot to take them out that they know

455
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 1: that they know that they.

456
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 2: Don't nobody know. So they was like, Okay, you good,

457
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: but don't nobody know you? So how good can you

458
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 2: really be? And in our position, you know, I say

459
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 2: to me, the losest the conceited.

460
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: So who was there was that did all y'all start

461
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: at the same time?

462
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, me and me and low started when it was

463
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: no guaranteed agreement. Like when I say they was telling

464
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 2: me that I was only going to do three agreement, Yeah,

465
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: it was just a third word a mouth. This is

466
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 2: one of the head producers that said we were only

467
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: going to give you like three shows at first, until

468
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 2: you got on stage and just started doing everything that

469
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 2: you were doing. So that's what I mean. As far

470
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 2: as my work, I've always let my work speak for me.

471
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: I ain't never got to show up and do no

472
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 2: whole bunch of talking. I ain't never been that person.

473
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 3: Anyway.

474
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show up and I'm gonna do what it is,

475
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 2: and I'm supposed to do at the highest level. And

476
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 2: once you get to that point, you get on the stage.

477
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 2: Now everybody's on the stage. If you ever come to

478
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: a tape in a while, and now everybody goes. Everybody

479
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: that you see on that cast when they do that intro,

480
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: they go, they get a turn.

481
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 3: But so the show that we shoot is two hours. Wow.

482
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: The show that you see is seventeen minutes with commercials.

483
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 2: So they got to trim down two hours worth of

484
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 2: shit in the seventeen minutes third cut.

485
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: That's the third cut.

486
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: So you done got through the first cut on stage

487
00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: and you steal.

488
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 3: My still might not make it.

489
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 2: That's why Corey Holcomb gave me the best game I

490
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: ever got in regards to wild'n Out. My first workshop,

491
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: that first day, that nigga walked in and I was like, Hey,

492
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: that's the nigga I got to go at just because

493
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: I had so much respect for him. And we went

494
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: at it, and then afterwards he said, man, look, let

495
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: me tell you something about this show. He said, find

496
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: you something to do that identifies you on this motherfucker,

497
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: because if you don't, you're gonna be one of the

498
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: niggas they see clapping on the intro and that's going

499
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 2: to be the only time they see you, right, And

500
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: that's the really shit. Ever, you got so many people

501
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: that have been on that show throughout the years of

502
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: us being on nig because it's only four of us

503
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 2: left from season five that was that original cast as myself, Carlos,

504
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 2: and Manual and conceded from the original reinception. And you

505
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: got so many different people that have been on that show.

506
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 2: And I didn't seen people have I'm talking about full

507
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 2: watch parties and they come on, hey, get introduced.

508
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: Y'll never see them again. What's it so that first

509
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 3: first that who was there?

510
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: Your first episode when you ain't had no agreement, You

511
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: was just hustling. Give me a paper tap, you know, man,

512
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: brother appreciate it.

513
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: Who was there?

514
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: Like?

515
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 3: Was it any celebrity there that y'all was shooting with? Kevin?

516
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: How much so?

517
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart first our first episode of season five, the

518
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: first we was doing two days at first. The three

519
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: didn't come till later on down the line our first

520
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: show while he was smoking hot, super duper hot I'm

521
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: talking about, and you.

522
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: Were here trying to make a name next to a

523
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: nigga on five.

524
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 2: I mean Super five Nigga, I'm talking about this nigga

525
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 2: is Johnny Flame five at this time this when he

526
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 2: I'm talking about going super worldwide and all of that.

527
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: So we all in there trying to figure out what

528
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna do and who we are in that moment

529
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 2: next to Nick cannas.

530
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 3: You Nick, which is another which is another giant, you

531
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying him.

532
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: Kevin Nick was the team captain versus Kevin Hart the

533
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 2: first two episodes and it was a season premier and

534
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: the season finale.

535
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: We shot him. That was our first two shows.

536
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: Goodness, that was the first you smoked and had to

537
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: We ain't had no choice, like you gotta go out

538
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: with you.

539
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: Any other big names on that and we know like

540
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: that was alongside you that wasn't big then, but Carlos

541
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 1: of Cosh shit from season five? Yeah, what is it

542
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: on that fifteen or something?

543
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: No.

544
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: Twenty three?

545
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we just shot season twenty you

546
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: know from season five season on, yeah.

547
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: Might have been there since then.

548
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: From five on we all had WOW and so certain

549
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: people have came you know, you got fly they came

550
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: in and you know what I mean, you got people

551
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: that have came still. Yeah, we all still there. We

552
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: all still when he come in. He came in season

553
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 2: I think it was nine, eight or nine, season eight

554
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: or nine.

555
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 3: Because did wilding Out help establish you financially?

556
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 5: Man?

557
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: Financially? Not originally, but it gave me that springboard. It

558
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: gave me a credit and a name to where I

559
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: because and I was able to develop off of that

560
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 2: because at first I was just that guy off the show.

561
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 2: But that's all I needed, you know what I mean?

562
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: Because before that I was who the fuck are you?

563
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: And then it's it's it's an uphill battle. You know,

564
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 2: I was able to do it, but it's just it

565
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: gives you a level of ease when you show up

566
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: with that oh I know him from that thing. It's

567
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: just like you being a podcaster when you first started

568
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: versus the loom. Now when you show up and you

569
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: in them rooms, if you're in a room full of podcasters,

570
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: now they know because you didn't establish yourself. So that's

571
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: what wilding out is. It's a springboard. You ain't supposed

572
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 2: to get rich off wilding out.

573
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 3: Your money was No.

574
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying you don't think you're supposed to get rich A.

575
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: Lot of money I mean, but yeah, if they are,

576
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: and that's how I know, and it's it's at the

577
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: end of the day, this is Nick Cannon presents like

578
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: this is his baby and his dream. He gave us

579
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 2: an opportunity based off of him being type of nigga

580
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: that want to give opportunities. But the good part about

581
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: Nick is that he ain't putting niggas in those three

582
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: sixty deals either, because he could, he could have compete.

583
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: He could have got it.

584
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: I'm talking about at the time when he got us

585
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: that nigga could have what I mean, without questioning, could

586
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 2: have put us in a seven twenty fucker three sixty.

587
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 3: But he didn't do nothing.

588
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: Half of the industry didn't know either though that was

589
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: a weird time. They didn't know these cameras and Mike's

590
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 1: was gonna pop up and y'all were gonna be able

591
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: to turn that into this podcast that takes off and

592
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: then the comedy take off at.

593
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 3: The same time. Yeah, but the type I say, he

594
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: wouldn't have done that, couldn't. It could have came from

595
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: over his head.

596
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, mind you, But that type of person that he is,

597
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: he would have thought that. I give him that back

598
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: then he would have he would have thought that, but

599
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: he would have been a nigga that because he came

600
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: from out the game on that.

601
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is it would have seemed harmless back then,

602
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: have that in the contract to say, hey, non compete

603
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: because compete with who?

604
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you TV You're right about that, That's what I mean.

605
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: Not necessarily that they putting in because you would have

606
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: to see this coming and it's no way to see

607
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: it's no way to have solve this thing turning into this.

608
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: I totally agree with that.

609
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: So you're right about that harmless from a perspective of hey,

610
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: let's just throw that in because it's a lot of

611
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: shit in contracts. It's like the words you don't understand

612
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: the contract can make you realize you don't speak English

613
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: too good for sure. If you ain't never read one,

614
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: you better get you a dictionary. It's so many words

615
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: in there that you gotta really And I've read contracts

616
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: and have really had to make myself And that's the

617
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: power of the Internet and all that that you can

618
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: you know.

619
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: Google it now.

620
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean, and still you think you speak English,

621
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: you look at one of them contract lawyers.

622
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, going to lawyer court going to court there, you

623
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: gonna show you how to put some words. Yeah, scenario,

624
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: So put them same words you out here using on

625
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: the corner. They ain't doing nothing, nothing at all, so

626
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: that niakun take them same. We all sharing the same words, man,

627
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: Ye Ain't that something?

628
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

629
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: But when you take that pen, that's why the pen

630
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: way more powerful than the pistol leve would be.

631
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: But even with your words with comedy, you you ain't

632
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: creating no new motherfucking words. I'm putting words together in

633
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 1: a way and making niggas laugh. That means I know

634
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: my economy and words. I'm working this ship like I'm

635
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: doing something with the same words you got, But you

636
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: can't seem to make people laugh with it.

637
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You know something with that man?

638
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: Like damn, I just thought about that, Like we all

639
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: sharing it ain't like like even with my podcast going crazy,

640
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: it ain't. I ain't creating no words. We ain't creating no.

641
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 2: But it's your level of understanding of the words that

642
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: you use it and when you speak them, it's a

643
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: different level of passion that comes out. It's just like

644
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: like I said about the contracts, they could have got us.

645
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: You right about that, without question, they could have got

646
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: y'all would have signed that, we would have signed even

647
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: and then even some of the ship that we did

648
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: sign and was like hi. But the fact that he

649
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: didn't put us in a three sixty deal on top

650
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 2: of the deal that we already signed with him, That's

651
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's like what I think about being

652
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: signed to a rapper, Like you know, the rapper is

653
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: signed to in a scope or universal and then you

654
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: signed to him and so now everything that he is,

655
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: you know, got to be subscribed to. You announced subscribe

656
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: to that and his terms. Yes, that's what he didn't

657
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: do to us. So it allowed us to just be

658
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: subscribed to the terms of the of the Viacom deal,

659
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: which you know were very clear cut and dry.

660
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: This is what it is. I mean, he ate without

661
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: having to do that.

662
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: But I wonder wonder what that what his thinking was

663
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: behind that, because he ate with he got some money

664
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: without having him do that.

665
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's probably what it is.

666
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: Just you know, I know that's what I would liking

667
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: it to is the fact that you know, he still

668
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: had us in the capacity that he had us in

669
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: in regards to the fact that he It's one thing

670
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: to give a nigga opportunity, it's another thing to stand

671
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: beside him while you're giving it to him.

672
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: That's what that's And if if he's done that for y'all,

673
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: it's very I.

674
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: Mean, you think about the context of wild'n out. Since

675
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: the time we got there, he's always been the joke

676
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: in some capacity, and he had enough power to be

677
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: able to make it. So, man, y'all, niggas, don't say

678
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: a motherfucking thing about me. Better figure out, Yeah, you

679
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: better figure out a way around this shit. Nigga, I

680
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: don't want to hear no jokes about nothing that got

681
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: nothing to do with me. And we had to navigate

682
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: that and he never did that. He always allowed us to.

683
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: He he stepped into an arena that he created as

684
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: a player equally to the motherfuckers. He gave an opportunity

685
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: to be in the game for dope. That's different. Different,

686
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: that's different. That's like Jerry Jones coming down, putting him

687
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: in on and saying lining up and saying, nigga, let's

688
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: let's run it this way.

689
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: That's what he did. That's what makes him different in

690
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 3: that regard.

691
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: So him giving us that opportunity while still, you know,

692
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: being in a position where he still get that we

693
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: show up and and and and elevate his brand to

694
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: the highest level.

695
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: When we're in that space.

696
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: Once that ship say cut, nigga, go get what you're

697
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: gonna get and God bless you may God be wished.

698
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: They fired him that time. How did that work?

699
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: I mean, shit, that was above our pay grade. To

700
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: be honest with you, did they try to keep y'all?

701
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: I mean no, we all got to let go to

702
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: And even if they would have tried to keep us,

703
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: we wasn't going like that because back then people.

704
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: Were saying, man, they sat stopping there, they going I'm.

705
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: Like, nah, they would have when they would have had

706
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: to go without us, you know. And that's the thing

707
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: that makes it so, you know, important to us because

708
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: we come from that space and nobody knew what Even

709
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: Nick didn't know if that ship was gonna work.

710
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 3: He was just you know, bringing it back then, he

711
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: was just bringing it back.

712
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm about remember that time, bro, when that when he

713
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: went through whatever he said and all that shit happened.

714
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: That boy was out on the island by hisself. What

715
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: it looked like publicly.

716
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like but that was by choice too though.

717
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: That's what Yeah, he chose to do that. He ain't

718
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: letting nobody else come. It was motherfuckers that was trying

719
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,479
Speaker 2: to come to his defense. And he'll tell you like, man,

720
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 2: I ain't I'm standing on what I got to stand

721
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: on on my own. But for us, the thing that

722
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: he appreciated and respected about us being the you know,

723
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: some of the stars of the shows that he created.

724
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 2: We let it be known like, man, ain't we ain't

725
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: doing none of that without him, because without him, we

726
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: wouldn't be doing none of this right, and that's important

727
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: to us, Like we know that we very cognizant of

728
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: the fact that this is what brought the light to

729
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: us in the capacity that we didn't have it prior

730
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: to this show existing. They no other show like this

731
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: that ever existed outside of it and Living Color, but

732
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: even in Living Color only lasted for a certain amount

733
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: of time. This shit thene had twenty plus seasons of

734
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: this NAT that had that many seasons period, black white,

735
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: indifferent of anything. You got to look at some shit

736
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: like Real World or you gotta go into that d

737
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: that survivor bag, that different type of and this is

738
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 2: a show that's centered around our culture, and it's always

739
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: been centered around our culture and producers stars like Kevin

740
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: Hart was a cast Memberkat Williams was a cast member.

741
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: Corey Hokumb was a cast member. D Ray Davis was

742
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: a cast member of wild'n Out.

743
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 3: And that was.

744
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: Before we came and now this same platform, now you

745
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 2: can say DC Young Fly was a cast member, Chico

746
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: Bean was a cast member, Carlos Miller was a cast member.

747
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: Man You Hudson was a cast member of this same

748
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: show that produced these I'm talking about superstar comedians whose

749
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: names are gonna live on forever. We come out that

750
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: same bowl, so it's like we refuse to be a

751
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: part of that bowl without the motherfucker who created the bowl.

752
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's great to hear, man,

753
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: because at that time, I'm telling you man like everybody,

754
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: not y'all.

755
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, the industry just felt weird.

756
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: And how you think it felt for us? Brother, I

757
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: was watching when I never watched the show Loon. I

758
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: never watched this ship, but it was an episode that

759
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: I was excited to see. The Lost Boys was a

760
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 2: team captain and when I tell you, these niggas were

761
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: so happy to be there, Like I couldn't wait to

762
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: see what they edited into the show because this was

763
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: one of the funniest shows. And that ship is on

764
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: a nick about to introduce the game Man West Philadelphia

765
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: born and raised. I'm like, what the fuck I know,

766
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: I paid my cable bill, Nigga, why the fucker's fresh

767
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: prints on? They cut that ship off like that, took

768
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: it right off the air like that middle of this

769
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 2: nigga introducing the It was probably a good five minutes

770
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: into the show. It just came out, boom, fresh Prince,

771
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: just like that. And then they might have forgot it,

772
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: and then and then and then right after that, check

773
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: the phone, boom, it's right there. It's over with yes sir,

774
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: email like that. That's how fast it happened. And this

775
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: is during the pandemic. So we like, nigga, what the

776
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: we already fed because it's COVID den fired us. Now

777
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 2: we double fed, like god damn. But you know, it's

778
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: just one of those things about, like I said, having

779
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: that perspective, in that perseverance, if if we would have

780
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: been in a position where it's like, all right, man,

781
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm.

782
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 3: Thirsty for it.

783
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 4: Man.

784
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: As soon as they offer opportunity, I'm jumping on it. Then, now,

785
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 2: when you look back on that as a person that's

786
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: looking back on history, what do you look like as

787
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: a nigga that jumped on that goddamn ship after that shit?

788
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? It's the long game, man,

789
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

790
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: It's the long game, and that's the way you gotta

791
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, like never one of those mind tricks,

792
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: the gambler's fallacy, like the ability to make you feel

793
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: like you can predict luck. You can't predict luck. It's impossible,

794
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: but the gambler is going to assume that. That's why

795
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: they sit there all day. Man for one more and

796
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: then I just if I just do this, or if

797
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: I roll the dice this way, I don't touch me.

798
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 2: All of those things are just your way of feeling

799
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: like if I do this, this is going to happen.

800
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 2: But the long game is being able to understand that

801
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: there is no prediction for luck. You can walk out

802
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: here to man, get smacked upside your head, never be

803
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: the same motherfucker again. But what you can predict is

804
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: your action and how you conduct yourself and what I

805
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: see as important as knowing don't take your ass over

806
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: to that table. That's how you play the long game.

807
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: The long game is knowing that I got a problem,

808
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: and if I go sit over here, I'm gonna be

809
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 2: over here for six and a half hours. I gotta

810
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: have the discipline to be able to see some shit

811
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: that I know is gonna give me them that dopamine

812
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 2: rush and that feeling that I know that I've always

813
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: been addicted to prid to me having the discipline to

814
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: separate myself from it, look at it and be able

815
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: to stare it in the face.

816
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: And say and walk the other way. That's how you

817
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 3: stay out here for the long time.

818
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: And when you look again, that's a future reward. I

819
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: think we have to start to look at life like that, like, Yo,

820
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: I'm giving myself a reward in the future. Like if

821
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm working out You know what I'm saying right now

822
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: that it might not, but.

823
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a future.

824
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: If you're getting up and you working at some or

825
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: you're working on comedy writing jokes, or when I get on.

826
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 3: The stage, get.

827
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, These are future rewards and

828
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: sometimes people go their whole life and they only live

829
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: in the present moment.

830
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's you.

831
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: I mean, the president is all that really exists because

832
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: the past is gone and you don't know what's tomorrow.

833
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: But you got to be able to have if you

834
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 2: can have, you know, like they say in the Bible,

835
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: the faith of a mustard seed, if you got the

836
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: faith to be able to believe, you know that whatever

837
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: you know.

838
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 3: And that's the thing.

839
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: People constitute whatever they want to constitute for whatever it

840
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: is they want to have that emotional positive feeling about.

841
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: So you just got to adapt that to your livelihood

842
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: and your success.

843
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 3: Like you gotta be okay.

844
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: With knowing that, hey man, I might not get it today,

845
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: but if I'm giving them all, that's another opportunity for

846
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,959
Speaker 2: me to grab whatever it is I want.

847
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: And then you gotta know, you know, as much as

848
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: the present is the moment, you gotta.

849
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: Know that you gotta plan and prepel man.

850
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, even if you not here tomorrow, the world on

851
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: start and you got people you leaving.

852
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: Hear them all right, exactly, and so.

853
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: Like you got to give yourself and them people and

854
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: just you got to plan for the future.

855
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: That's my thing.

856
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: Man, you gotta like me, like like you're saying, I'm

857
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: always looking at life saying right now, don't got what

858
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 1: because to be honest, I need to be making millions

859
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: off this. This is how I feel when I wake

860
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: up in the morning, when I go to bed at night.

861
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm operating at a level that with the right team,

862
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: I can make millions off of this.

863
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: Okay, but that My question to you is, if you're

864
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: not making millions off of it right now, do you

865
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: allow yourself to feel stagnated because it's not happening right

866
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: now as though millions don't exist in the future as you.

867
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: Said, No, but I'm not stagnated. But I'm impatient and

868
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: that's what I'm working there. I'm reading the book again

869
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: because I read it. It's a long time ago called Blink,

870
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: and it talks about in the moment, being too caught

871
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: in the moment and knowing how to think in the moment.

872
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

873
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: Because you can get too caught up in the future

874
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 1: or the past.

875
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

876
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: You gotta know how to think also in the moment

877
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: and while you're playing. So it's like a dance that

878
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: I have to get myself through, but I don't necessarily

879
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: feel stagnant. Let me ask you this, what's something that

880
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: now you will take out of a Viacom contract that

881
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: was in there back then? Like, what's something that you're

882
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: like now probably ain't there because y'all are stablished, y'all

883
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: got leverage.

884
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 3: Now. The cycle system? What does that mean?

885
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: The cycle system is when you sign, you sign for

886
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: a certain number of cycles. And what a cycle is

887
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: is a season, if you will. So if you sign

888
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: a contract for three cycles, then that means that they

889
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: and they establish how much you can make within those cycles.

890
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: So the first cycle is a certain number, the second

891
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: cycle they have set that you only can make this

892
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: much more than that first number. And in the third

893
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: cycle you only can make this much more than that

894
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 2: first and second number. And then after that cycle is over,

895
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: then you get to renegotiate your contract. That would be

896
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: the part that I would take out, the cycle part

897
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: of it, just letting.

898
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: It be season per season based on performance.

899
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, right, And then if you

900
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 2: get a long term contract, your long term contract could

901
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: be a set number of or a set amount versus

902
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: them being able to determine how much you can make

903
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: versus what everybody else's make that base.

904
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 3: No, it's just the way that they set it up.

905
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 2: Because there's so many different people, and then you have

906
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: different types of contracts. You have what's called favorite nations.

907
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 2: And now what favored nations is is when everybody makes

908
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: the same amount of money, that's favorite nations. And you

909
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: have to have that in certain capacities to keep certain

910
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: shit from happening within the workplace in those type of environments,

911
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: because if you have somebody doing the same amount of

912
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: work he I mean, and we're doing the same job,

913
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: and then you look up and you see that I'm

914
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: making fifty thousand dollars a podcasts and you making six

915
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a podcasts. But we're doing the same job

916
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: and we're doing the same amount of work, there's no

917
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: way that you can be able to stop that conversation

918
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: from happening. And that happening, and that's gonna create that's

919
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 2: gonna create a problem within the workspace. So when they

920
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: have those types of situations that every they call it

921
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: favored nations, everybody's getting the same amount of money.

922
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: It's partcast doing that. Now, like not favorite favorite nations.

923
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: That's what the nations. But they're paying people different skills.

924
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: That's sitting on the same partcasts and that's gonna blow

925
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: up at some point because it gets messy that way.

926
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody say.

927
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,479
Speaker 1: Yo, I'm making eight thousand, he's making fourteen thousand. Yeah,

928
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 1: we hit a same amount of hours the same day.

929
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: So but how do they call out people like you,

930
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: DC Carlos.

931
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 3: I mean they don't.

932
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: Everybody else just gets the benefit from the way that

933
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: you know that.

934
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: It's like, so, y'all raised the actual numbers that we

935
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: raised it, y'all raised the budget.

936
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 3: For the whole It's just like this.

937
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: It's like, it's the way I explain it is, if

938
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 2: you play for the Patriots and you the fifty third

939
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: man on the roster, you still get a ring, still

940
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 2: get a ring. You might not make the exact amount

941
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: of money that Tom Brady make, but you still get

942
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: to celebrate the ring. The difference between what we do

943
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: is everybody gets to celebrate in the same capacity. When

944
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: you have certain people within the space because of Favorite Nations,

945
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: everybody is going to be able to say, all right,

946
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: because this person negotiated this number. Everybody that's in that

947
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: tiar it's going to get that number.

948
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 3: Yo.

949
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: That's crazy, yeah, because because that's your money.

950
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

951
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: But I mean the good part about it is in

952
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: that space, you understand it because of the.

953
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: Environment, letting people eat and.

954
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: Everybody and there's that environment, right me, so I can

955
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: get some Yeah. And that's what came with the eighty

956
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: five South and understanding and loas having a vision to

957
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: be able to say, you know what, if we step

958
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: over here and do this, then we create the narrative

959
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: we the coaches now, and then from everything that we

960
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: learned in this game, we can apply it over here

961
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: and elevate it and do it this way.

962
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 3: But still over on this side, we like, man, we want.

963
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 2: Everybody to especially the guys that that come from our era.

964
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: We all have an affinity to this space because we

965
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 2: all know that it helped make us who we are.

966
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: It gave us that springboard to be able to and

967
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,479
Speaker 2: it's a credit that still counts, and it's always gonna count,

968
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, no matter how long

969
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 2: we in this game at a high life, that name

970
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 2: wild'n Out, people are gonna know it's kids from I'm

971
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 2: talking about from two years old to eighty two years old,

972
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: and they both are gonna come up and say I

973
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: remember seeing you on this or I'll watch you on

974
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: this particular platform. And it's very difficult to find that space.

975
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 2: So when you get to a point where everybody gets

976
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: the benefit from that that come from the checks that

977
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: we was making when we first came, we all cool

978
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: with it. But everybody gets the benefit and that of

979
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: God floating around in what regard over there or just

980
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: in general.

981
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: I know y'all getting money.

982
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying because I'm wondering how the te television industry is, you.

983
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 3: Know, I mean it is a lot of money floating around.

984
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: Playing the boxing game saying that or the Super Bowl

985
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: game where it's like you performing here means more than

986
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: the money will give you.

987
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: I am Brian James.

988
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: This is Dedante Farmer. We are the Strangest Fruit podcast.

989
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 3: We did meet seven years ago in corpor State Prison,

990
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 3: but today we're out. We're active on our community.

991
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 5: So is my brother from the Color and another mother.

992
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 5: But still my brother just said, we provide equality. We

993
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 5: provide a platform for those who are unable to speak,

994
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 5: those who feel like they've been forgotten, especially those who

995
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 5: are inside, and we advocate for anybody that has some

996
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 5: type of realness going on, you know, and we provide

997
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 5: comedic relief. We got good music and we got good food.

998
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 5: You know, this is for the soul. So how let

999
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 5: us subscribe on all platforms because we are there?

1000
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: See you soon.

1001
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 5: Man.

1002
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: It's that springboard to be able to and it's a

1003
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: credit that still counts, and it's always gonna count, you

1004
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, no matter how long we

1005
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 2: in this game at a high level, that name wild'n Out,

1006
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: people are gonna know. It's kids from I'm talking about

1007
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: from two years old to eighty two years old, and

1008
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 2: they both are gonna come up and say, I remember

1009
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: seeing you on this or I'll watch you on this

1010
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: particular platform.

1011
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: And it's very difficult to find that space.

1012
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: So when you get to a point where everybody gets

1013
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: the benefit from that that come from the check that

1014
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: we was making when we first came, we all cool

1015
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: with it. But everybody gets the betterestit of that floating around,

1016
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: uh in what we god over there or just in.

1017
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: General, I know y'all getting money.

1018
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying because I'm wondering how the ted television industry.

1019
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: Is you know. I mean, it is a lot of

1020
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: money floating around.

1021
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: Playing the boxing game saying that or the Super Bowl

1022
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: game where it's like you performing here means more than

1023
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: the money will give you. I mean in a sense

1024
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: that some of that going on commercial like, yeah, it's

1025
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: some of that going on.

1026
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: But at the same.

1027
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: Time, y'all niggas is straight y'all three in particular.

1028
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: But it took us to get to that point to

1029
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: do that. But still, but y'all could have. Yeah, we

1030
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: could have. We could have y'all.

1031
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: Didn't called out what y'all did, respectfully to wild'ing out

1032
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: in the big platform that it is.

1033
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 3: But y'all could have been buried.

1034
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: In Yeah, we definitely could have. But in not being

1035
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: buried in that and coming out on the other side

1036
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: of it when we go back over there, yeah, it's

1037
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: a different conversation now. So that's when I say it's

1038
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: money floating around. What we did outside of it introduced

1039
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 2: us to the conversations inside of it that we wouldn't

1040
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: have been able to be privy to had we not

1041
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: did what we did on this side of it. So

1042
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: that's why I say the money is like you still

1043
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 2: no matter what you're doing on the corporate side, you

1044
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: still have to bring them something of value for them

1045
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: to introduce you to the conversations of a different bracket

1046
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: of you know, money that's available to you.

1047
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, It's the only way it works.

1048
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: So if you come in and you still in the

1049
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: same place where they was paying you five years ago,

1050
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: we still having five years ago conversation money wise. But

1051
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: if you come in and they see that you don't

1052
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: have a you're not tied down to this money like

1053
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: you were then. Like I say, when we got canceled,

1054
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: it was a blessing because if I ain't gonna say

1055
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 2: it was a blessing that we got canceled, but it

1056
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: was a blessing that I was in the position that

1057
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: I was in, because if that shit would have happened

1058
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen, I'd have been sliding down the wall

1059
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: in slow motion crying like yeah fuck, because I was

1060
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: tied into that.

1061
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 3: That was it.

1062
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 2: I hadn't had a chance to make a name doing

1063
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 2: anything other than that.

1064
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: So and that's what I mean buried alive.

1065
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's that's literally.

1066
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: Be buried alive, meaning I'm still living I'm still funny.

1067
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still me.

1068
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: But don't nobody give a fuck because you got to

1069
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 2: be able to create something that people are going to

1070
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 2: be able to come see you do that they can't

1071
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: watch you do for free on TV.

1072
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: Like, why am I gonna pay to see you? What

1073
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 3: you do free? You make me laugh every day on TV?

1074
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: So why am I gonna pay this fifty sixty seventy

1075
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: dollars ticket price to come see you in person? That's

1076
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. When it comes to the work,

1077
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: that's the work. That ship over there, that's work too,

1078
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: But that's you know, like you said, that's when you plan.

1079
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: That's when you're the point god out here. This my team.

1080
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: I'm the coach, I'm the everything. I'm the owner of

1081
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: the team. I'm the coach. I'm the janetor nigga. I'm

1082
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: the motherfucker that's putting the chair if a chair break,

1083
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 2: I'm a nigga coming to screw to screw down and

1084
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 2: make it. When you do that and you show up

1085
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: and people get to see that, that's what they're paying for.

1086
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 2: When you go back over there and now it's like, hey,

1087
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: you can't pay me the same as you did when

1088
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: I left, Because now I can go over here and

1089
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 2: it might not be as big of a game. I

1090
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: might be at the Rutker now, but it's gonna be

1091
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 2: motherfuckers standing on top of each other and they gonna

1092
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: pay whatever it is I want them to pay to

1093
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: see me do it.

1094
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And not only are we selling tickets to the Rucker,

1095
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: we done picked up some more games. So we got

1096
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: t shirts for the Folk, we got headband for the Fold,

1097
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: we got a subscription thing for the We don't figure.

1098
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: Some figure some game out.

1099
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: So it's like when you go back over there, you

1100
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean, it's a different conversation, and a

1101
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 2: conversation still has to be had because you know, that's

1102
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 2: the you know, it's not with what I've learned is

1103
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: is not what you're worth. It's what you can negotiate.

1104
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: Who gives a fuck what you're worth? How good can

1105
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 2: you negotiate? Because it's some motherfuckers out here that ain't

1106
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: worth shit, But they got a hell of a puciate

1107
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: on their team, or a mean talk game the way

1108
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: they didn't talk their way into some shit that into situations.

1109
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 2: So it's like it's it's something you got to navigate,

1110
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: but you only learn that over time. That's why I'm

1111
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 2: like in talking to you that patience is necessary. Whatever

1112
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: you need to do to kind of step into being

1113
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 2: able to understand that.

1114
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: Bro.

1115
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: Like for me being on this side of the game

1116
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: and watching you, slim niggas ain't dead with you then,

1117
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: did so try to put yourself in the perception of

1118
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 2: step outside. Like that situation that we talked about that

1119
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: you had to do at the shop, What does that look?

1120
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 2: What does you sitting here now look like to that

1121
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: you at that point, and what would you I did exactly?

1122
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: Would you still be like, hoh, man, I got to

1123
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 2: I got to get there. You gonna be like, nigga,

1124
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: what you mean to tell me? I can stop doing Oh,

1125
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: I ain't got to worry about that, And I'm just

1126
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: sitting down just doing this.

1127
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: So apply that now.

1128
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: And now I'm telling you, man, your big dog, you

1129
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: can't trip over the small trees. And as much as

1130
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 2: you may think that them checks is like, I don't

1131
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: even know the best way to explain it. Loan Like,

1132
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: it's like, uh, at one point, right everybody wanted to

1133
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: have an HBO special. Every comedian in the world, one

1134
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: of the HBO Comedy Central special. You ain't heard nobody

1135
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: talk about neither one of those in the past six

1136
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: seven years because everybody want a Netflix special.

1137
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: Now you understand.

1138
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 2: So you think about the people who blew they load,

1139
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: doing everything that they can, feeling like, man, fuck the game,

1140
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: I gotta get on HBO.

1141
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 3: You ain't even give your chance to time. You give

1142
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 3: yourself a chance to get.

1143
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: To the Netflix side of the game because your energy

1144
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: fucked you all.

1145
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. And that's important.

1146
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: And again that's why I'm reading those books because I

1147
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: see myself.

1148
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: I give you another one Outliers. You should read Outlies.

1149
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 2: You need to read it again, man, because that's one

1150
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: that kind of explains where you're at in regards to

1151
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: the position in that you're in now and what you're

1152
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: looking at in regards to the game and how you

1153
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 2: feel like, Man, I'm supposed to have this level of success,

1154
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: which you are, but right now you not getting it

1155
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 2: at this moment mean that.

1156
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 3: That ain't the bag that you're supposed to get.

1157
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: And honestly, if you force yourself in a position to

1158
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 2: get it, you'll never get the one that you're supposed

1159
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: to get.

1160
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and That's what it's about. It's about just staying patient.

1161
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's what I'm doing. Like,

1162
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: but it's important for me to identify and just watch

1163
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: it and notice, Yo, Bro, you being is you getting

1164
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: a little fidgety? You're getting you know, because right now, Bro,

1165
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: I don't want Bro.

1166
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 3: You have?

1167
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: You got me stuck on the mind tricks. You suffering

1168
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: from the zygon Nick effect. The zygon Nick effect is

1169
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: this your ability that you so caught up on a

1170
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 2: goal or a task or a specific goal of task

1171
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 2: that you can't wrap your mind around, and you could

1172
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: become consumed with the thought of this specific task. But

1173
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 2: once you accomplish the task, then you immediately give yourself

1174
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: another task to be overwhelmed with. That's exactly what I'm doing,

1175
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 2: and you gotta separate yourself outside of it. At the baby, yeah,

1176
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 2: you could have done fifty more things exactly like coming

1177
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 2: from the street.

1178
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: To doing that and getting a deal with Revote. I

1179
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: could have right then hung it up.

1180
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 3: I'm done.

1181
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 2: After that and still like, now you done, did the

1182
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 2: breakfast club? You done, did all of the major platforms

1183
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: you come out the streets. You gotta you gotta be

1184
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: able to have that. You know that hindsight. I think

1185
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: people lose the value of hindsight. Like consumption. I'm consumed.

1186
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 2: I'm consumed my work and my work and life balance

1187
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: has been it is warped now, you know what I'm

1188
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 2: saying I had. It's like I don't have the same

1189
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 2: life balance that I had. Like it's like everything I do,

1190
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 2: my phone rings all the time, is somebody about this?

1191
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 3: Shit? If somebody needs something about this, it's never.

1192
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,959
Speaker 1: That's why I gotta keep this with me and keep

1193
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: something in my ear because again I have lost my tried. Yeah,

1194
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: but in the same sense when you say your phone

1195
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: ringing and it's somebody that want this, and somebody want

1196
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: that I taught you as for and the ones that

1197
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: they call it now, it don't come with half of

1198
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: the trauma and troubles that came with niggas was hitting

1199
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: you for.

1200
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 3: I love it. I loved it.

1201
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: I'm in love with it, and I think but that's

1202
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I love it so much that it

1203
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: is consuming me, right, you.

1204
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 3: See what I'm saying.

1205
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm so happy and proud of me and my family

1206
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: that I done left that.

1207
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 3: And it really done. It this shit really works.

1208
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: I thought I was for sure gonna have to come

1209
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: back and do some mother, but this shit really works.

1210
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 3: So now I'm consumed.

1211
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: It's like, is that what you do for yourself, for

1212
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: your peace of mind? Is the consumption of information? Is

1213
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: that would put you at the ease and put man

1214
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 2: whatever you can do to do as much of that

1215
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: as you possibly can do that because that separates you

1216
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: from that thought process that's that's consuming you. If you will,

1217
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: whatever it is that your you know, your separation tool is,

1218
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: or your you know, you're unplugging from the matrix, if

1219
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: you will, whatever that is, You've afforded yourself to be

1220
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: able to do that as much as possible now because

1221
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: it's necessary for you to be able to manage the

1222
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: thoughts that's going to come into your mind as more

1223
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: successes and failures come in this game that we're in.

1224
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: So subscribe to you.

1225
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: You know what I be telling myself is, I don't

1226
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: know it's weird, bro, because I'm saying, loan you are.

1227
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 3: It's something that's happening.

1228
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: Because I'm not a part of the crowd, right, I

1229
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: stick out, And that's what you want to do.

1230
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 3: You want to stick.

1231
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: Out right, but they but the programing says that the

1232
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: money is in the crowd because of the market, and

1233
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: when I know better off, my studying ain't no money

1234
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: in the crowd. It's it's it's like it's more it's a.

1235
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 3: Tool to like.

1236
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: I mean, even you were saying, like, yo, you could

1237
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: be on TV and be in a situation where you

1238
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: ain't really got it, man, or if you got it,

1239
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: you don't spend it in a way what people are look.

1240
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: At you like you got it exactly.

1241
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: That that was something that you that I had to,

1242
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: you know, make other people understand because it never bothered

1243
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 2: me none.

1244
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 3: I'll never forget. We was doing this little event.

1245
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: We was having a cookout, right and for all the

1246
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 2: kids in the community and all that. And I was

1247
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 2: still driving my sad in view at this time that

1248
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: by the time I traded in, that bitch had three

1249
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: hundred thousand miles on a nigga.

1250
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: But I don't give a fuck about it.

1251
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: I'm a I've had and at least in my environment

1252
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: at the level that I was at in life, I've

1253
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: had those things that people look at and say, ooh,

1254
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: look at him like that was at one point was

1255
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: all I prided myself on being was a nigga that

1256
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 2: showed up like look at me, and then look what

1257
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: I got, because I got it on my own, So

1258
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: I know what that feels like.

1259
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: I know what that type of attention is.

1260
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: And after I got to the point where I made

1261
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 2: it on that shit meant nothing to me. Even at

1262
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: the beginning of my career, I was over that part

1263
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: of it.

1264
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: So that's a blessing for you, Yeah, black men, because

1265
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: most black men are consumed.

1266
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: They never had it, and then when they get it,

1267
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: that's all they worried about.

1268
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 3: It was in reverse.

1269
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: For me, I had already had that for I'm talking

1270
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: about since a young nigga, I hadn't already had that

1271
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: level of attention. So by the time I got to

1272
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: where I had made it in my mind and the

1273
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: reality of really making it beyond what Like I said,

1274
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: that patch of grass that I went and saw, Man,

1275
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 2: I'm totally locked in to making sure my vision is

1276
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 2: what all I'm paying attention to. But everybody around me,

1277
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: I had to kind of train them because my man

1278
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: at the cookout got into an argument with a motherfucker

1279
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 2: because one of the kids had said, is Chico being

1280
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: here they said Chico being here, and they was like, yeah,

1281
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 2: his car right there, and the little boy looked at

1282
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: was like, man, Chico Bean, ain't gonna try no car look.

1283
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 3: Like that, And mind you.

1284
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: The dude then said something to the little boy and

1285
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 2: then checked the little boy man, and they got into

1286
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: a little disagreement about him checking a little boy. And

1287
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, look, man, why is you even engaged?

1288
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: And that's a child, that's what he's supposed to think.

1289
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: But the fact that you care it's my problem, you

1290
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Because why do you give a

1291
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: fuck about the fact that this little boy feel like that.

1292
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 2: That's how he's supposed to feel a nigga. I'm not

1293
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: supposed to be driving this car being a nigga on TV.

1294
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 2: But I don't care. And you know me well enough

1295
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: to know that that's all that matters. But that perception

1296
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 2: and that perspective is one that saved me from going

1297
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 2: through a lot of the bullshit that comes with celebrity

1298
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 2: and getting caught up in it. And that's why I

1299
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: was able to be patient in my process because it's

1300
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: like Slim I dine already. I won in an environment

1301
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 2: that it's the hardest to win, and I come from

1302
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: out the jungle.

1303
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: But that's what makes it.

1304
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: That's what makes you think I'm supposed to be winning

1305
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: ten times over it. It don't work like that one nigga.

1306
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: It meant something to really.

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Speaker 2: Win because it's more niggas that think like the motherfucker

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Speaker 2: who checked the little boy than ever.

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Speaker 3: Think like a nigga like me. Think.

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Speaker 2: So you think about, like you said, you standing out

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Speaker 2: in the crowd. At some point, when you're standing out

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Speaker 2: of the crowd, you gotta be able to stand aha,

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01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: look at you because the group is over there and

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Speaker 2: you you on this island by yourself, and you gotta

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Speaker 2: be content and saying all fuck all your niggas over there.

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Speaker 3: I'm cool. But see.

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Speaker 1: But but this is what I'm saying because I also

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Speaker 1: been watching Drake right and and and what he's going

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Speaker 1: through with media. There's fatigued with judgment. But you gotta

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Speaker 1: be prepared for when you in this position, especially when

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Speaker 1: you're at a high level doing it with the judgment.

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Speaker 2: The rule of ten is gonna be three people who

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Speaker 2: can't stand you. That's something I learned from Charlemagne. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be three people who love you three people who

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Speaker 2: hate you and four people who don't give a fuck.

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Speaker 2: So what's your what's you focus on? My focus has

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Speaker 2: always been getting them four people that don't give a

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Speaker 2: fuck to love me or hate me.

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Speaker 3: That's my goal.

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Speaker 2: Make him feel something, you know what I mean? Like

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Speaker 2: that's as a comedian, that's that's the getting boomed. You've

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Speaker 2: evoked some type of emotion out of these people. But

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Speaker 2: when they just looking at you in silence, that's something difference.

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Speaker 2: They don't know what's going not as a not as

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Speaker 2: a comedian, but as a Yeah, I've been on stage

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Speaker 2: a step show I did when I was in college.

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Speaker 2: My fraternity did the Circle City Classic Nigga, And I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about an arena that we just did at the

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Speaker 2: eighty five South show, which was crazy to me, just

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Speaker 2: the you know, the way that shit worked.

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Speaker 3: But boy, when I.

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Speaker 2: Tell you, it was dead silent in that bitch when

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Speaker 2: we was up there stepping I'm talking about niggas was

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Speaker 2: and you could see it like that, what the fuck?

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01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 2: And when they announced wis Sem State Alpha Voever Nigga,

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Speaker 2: none of the people that was with us even clapped.

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Speaker 2: They ain't even want to know they was with us,

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01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 2: so knowing that, and that is what motivated us to

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Speaker 2: come back for the Homecoming show.

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Speaker 3: Because we got too full of ourselves.

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Speaker 2: We thought, oh, nigga, we we the best shit out,

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Speaker 2: not knowing that perspective that I had. When you show

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Speaker 2: up and there's some other motherfuckers who really do this ship,

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Speaker 2: you ain't all that bullshitting we did tonight before that

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Speaker 2: hotel room pool faking man, some niggas up there that

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01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 2: really dogs, They do this ship, and these niggas embarrass

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Speaker 2: the fuck out us. And that's what we got for

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01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: being too full of ourselves. And I learned that lesson

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Speaker 2: before I ever became an entertainer as my career. So

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Speaker 2: once I became an entertainer by my career, man, you

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Speaker 2: never know when your last show gonna be, So you

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01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 2: gotta treat everyone like it's your last one.

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Speaker 1: It's every crowd, because then we're just gonna get into

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Speaker 1: the comedians because.

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Speaker 2: Every every crowd is different, every every crowd, That's what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So because I've seen Bill Burd get booed and then

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Speaker 1: turn the crowd around, yeah, because you got like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't give up, and then they turn around that.

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Speaker 2: Because you gotta be comfort confident enough to be up

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Speaker 2: there saying what you really feel. The motherfuckers who get

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Speaker 2: booed and leave was bullshitting if I'm I don't care

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Speaker 2: if you don't like my.

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Speaker 3: Perception on perspect you get that though, I mean.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I got it, But I'm saying for the

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Speaker 1: people watching, how do you get that to stand in

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Speaker 1: that moment? Because I mean it's almost like comedian shit

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Speaker 1: imposta syndrome. But I know they don't, cause they they

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Speaker 1: when you listen to them talk, a lot of them

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Speaker 1: feel like like I hear Rogan a lot say when

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Speaker 1: they get a standing ovation before you come out of

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Speaker 1: something for a split second.

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Speaker 3: He's like, fuck, why they clipping?

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Speaker 1: Like it's like something that goes on, Like we're still human, man,

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Speaker 1: we know we're good at what we do.

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Speaker 3: But it's like, again, I'm using the same words.

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Speaker 1: You got access to, right, I'm talking, you know how

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Speaker 1: to talk?

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Speaker 2: Like I think it's you know, the determinology they use,

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Speaker 2: tears of a clown, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 2: that pain that you go through that creates this level

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01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 2: of perspective that you're able to make or find humor

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01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 2: in things that mo people could never find humor in.

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Speaker 2: Or you're able to take parts of your own life

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01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 2: that most people would be ashamed to show people and

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Speaker 2: be able to wear it and do it in front

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Speaker 2: of a crowd full of people. I think those are

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Speaker 2: the things that make you confident in being able to

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Speaker 2: do it. But what makes you confident in being able

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Speaker 2: to stand on stage is you being able to see

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Speaker 2: it work. A number of times been boomed. I've never

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Speaker 2: been boomed. One year, I have been booed, but it

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Speaker 2: was on purpose, like I knew the booze was coming,

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Speaker 2: Like I went to Dallas and I'm in and this

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01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: is when I first performed in front of Martin, my

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Speaker 2: first time meeting Martin right.

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