Speaker 1: This is a Wells cast with Wells Atoms and I
Speaker 1: heart radio podcast. What up, everybody? How are we doing? Me?
Speaker 1: Not so good? I was doing some core exercises. Okay, that, um,
Speaker 1: that's stupid. That like roller thing like roll out and
Speaker 1: then you roll back. It's the devil's tool, say that much.
Speaker 1: And I did that, and now I feel like I
Speaker 1: broke my neck lower neck into shoulder blade. Can't move
Speaker 1: my neck. I don't know what's happening. I do know
Speaker 1: what's happening. Actually, guys, I am um, I'm getting old, alright,
Speaker 1: I'm the wrong set of thirty seven comes up in
Speaker 1: a couple of days, and it's whatever. It's fine. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't feel like I look thirty seven. They
Speaker 1: look pretty great. But let me tell you something. I
Speaker 1: feel it. It's happening now. I did the roller exercise
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be down for the count for I
Speaker 1: don't know how long. We've all got our problems, all right,
Speaker 1: we've all got our trials and tribulations. But there are
Speaker 1: things that can get our minds off the pain. And
Speaker 1: one of those things is the show The Hills. It's
Speaker 1: Back Baby. Last night, season two of the Hills New
Speaker 1: Beginnings was bestowed upon us by the good folks over
Speaker 1: at Music Television, and I will say this, it did
Speaker 1: not disappoint. We got some juicy stuff from Audrina and
Speaker 1: Brody hooking up, and by the way, they underplayed the
Speaker 1: whole kissing thing. We'll get into it a little bit later.
Speaker 1: Sounds like it wasn't just a single, if you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like Brody round to those basis. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Anyways, a great episode, not only with the
Speaker 1: old Audrina and the Brody stuff, but the Brody and
Speaker 1: Caitlin stuff was great. The Brandon and the love of
Speaker 1: his life of whose name I cannot remember, but it
Speaker 1: seems sweet. Heidi and Spencer their love story, Spencer and
Speaker 1: Chicken pop Pies their love story, Spencer and Capes their
Speaker 1: love story. We've got to break it all down, and
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to do it because we're gonna bring
Speaker 1: on my favorite person from the cast. He's been on
Speaker 1: the Wells Cast before, actually was on back what it
Speaker 1: was called the Pratt Cast. Jason Waller will be on
Speaker 1: talking everything from the first episode, and then we have
Speaker 1: a little treat for you. Juliet Porter from CSA Key
Speaker 1: is gonna be on the show. This is the jam
Speaker 1: packed episode of the Hills Cast. One you do not
Speaker 1: want to miss. Stick around guys. Yeah, back in the
Speaker 1: Wells Cast slash Hills Cast. Very excited to have helped
Speaker 1: me recap episode one of season two of The Hills
Speaker 1: New Beginnings. Is a guy that we actually had on
Speaker 1: the show when this was originally the Pratt Cast with
Speaker 1: Stephanie Pratt and who Actually, I will say this, I'm
Speaker 1: not blowing smoke up your ass. It was my favorite
Speaker 1: interview out of anyone we did with the cast because
Speaker 1: it actually felt like a real interview with a person
Speaker 1: who had issues and problems and was emotional and honest.
Speaker 1: And I was like, Jesus Christ, I wish more reality
Speaker 1: TV people were like this, welcome to the show, Jason Waller,
Speaker 1: how you doing man, I'm good, bro. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for having me again. It's a it's great to
Speaker 1: see you. It has been a long time, and I
Speaker 1: really appreciate the kind words. I really enjoyed our the
Speaker 1: last time we all connected, and we're able to get
Speaker 1: pretty open, transparent, vulnerable and have some meaningful conversation if
Speaker 1: you will. Yeah, I mean not to uh like put
Speaker 1: down any of the other trials and tribulations of anyone
Speaker 1: else on the cast, but yours are real life problems,
Speaker 1: and so I feel like they hold more weight than like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, the brandings of the world where it's like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just too fucking rich and that's one of my
Speaker 1: problems is I got to deal with being rich or
Speaker 1: not rich now but maybe rich again later. You're like,
Speaker 1: I have substance abuse issues, like a lot of the
Speaker 1: people in the country, it's like this weird just juxtaposition
Speaker 1: between your character or who you are and then a
Speaker 1: lot of the other um people on the show. Do
Speaker 1: you feel that way where sometimes you're like we are
Speaker 1: not on the same like wavelength of issues. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I think really what it comes down to is like
Speaker 1: everybody's got their own trials and tribulations, right, But I
Speaker 1: think that's what I love about ours and Ashley, myself
Speaker 1: and Ashley stories that were able to be really true
Speaker 1: to who we are and you know what we go through,
Speaker 1: and it makes it very authentic for us because one is,
Speaker 1: not only are we really going through these issues, but
Speaker 1: also I know a very large proportion of society is
Speaker 1: going through them. So I think there's a lot of
Speaker 1: relatability and connectivity with that. Uh So, I mean so
Speaker 1: while we're doing this, not only is it helping ourselves,
Speaker 1: but hopefully people are feeling that they can relate. Uh
Speaker 1: And it gives us motivation. Man. That's why that's why
Speaker 1: we're doing the show. Is the real reason behind it
Speaker 1: is because there's a lot of people that are out
Speaker 1: there that are struggling. There's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: don't have a direction. There's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: don't know what to do. Um and we hope to
Speaker 1: to be to shed some light on that at least,
Speaker 1: you know, and again, we're not perfect by any means.
Speaker 1: We're not saying, hey, what we're doing is the way
Speaker 1: to do it. It's it's we've gone through these things.
Speaker 1: We have no shame in what we've experienced because we've
Speaker 1: also got we are experiencing the other side of it today.
Speaker 1: We're actually really able to experience, you know, the beauty
Speaker 1: of the hard work that we put towards that. Not
Speaker 1: only for myself, man, you also have to remember with Ashley,
Speaker 1: she is is a very heavy codependent. I mean, you've
Speaker 1: heard me say this before, but I'll say it again,
Speaker 1: is wherever there's alcoholic or an addict, there's a codependent
Speaker 1: that is just as sick, if not sicker than the
Speaker 1: attic themselves. And and that's where Ashley and Isy's relationship
Speaker 1: was so toxic. And for us to be able to
Speaker 1: walk through that and share that, yeah, it's very it's
Speaker 1: at first it's hard and uncomfortable, but to also be
Speaker 1: able to look back down and go, man, we've really
Speaker 1: made progress. Like it's it feels good. Yeah. At the
Speaker 1: at the end of our conversation, I want to go
Speaker 1: through kind of all the the the people that you
Speaker 1: work with and the programs that you are affiliated with
Speaker 1: actually help people through these things that Remember, we talked
Speaker 1: about it kind of a lot last time you were on,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Wow, this guy not only talks
Speaker 1: to talk, but he's walking in as well. And I
Speaker 1: really did appreciate that. Um, just right off the bat,
Speaker 1: I thought I thought the show seemed a lot more
Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, authentic yesterday or last
Speaker 1: night then it did all of the last season. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts as someone who's just kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: a part of the zeitgeist of the Hills. I personally
Speaker 1: I think this season is much better than last season.
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like again as when we were
Speaker 1: redoing the show originally it was like everybody getting back
Speaker 1: together for the first time, there was you know, it
Speaker 1: was awkward. I mean, nobody really knew each other like
Speaker 1: the depths that they did prior and coming back. I
Speaker 1: mean this last year, especially since we had time pre
Speaker 1: COVID and then we stopped shooting to some of us
Speaker 1: stayed in touch. We really developed relationships, so we got
Speaker 1: to know one another at a deeper level. So it
Speaker 1: made it much more authentic and I like I said,
Speaker 1: I mean, I really think this season is a hundred
Speaker 1: times better than last season because the dynamics are real.
Speaker 1: You got to really get into the people's you know,
Speaker 1: you get to see people for what who they are
Speaker 1: and what they are, and you develop relationships and connectivity
Speaker 1: with the people that you you want to surround yourself with.
Speaker 1: Then you're the ones you don't. You can see where
Speaker 1: that really comes to comes to conflict, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people pulled back, pulled back the they didn't pull
Speaker 1: back the punches this time, yeah, which I think is
Speaker 1: the hallmark of a good reality show. Is is believability.
Speaker 1: And I do think that that's what it seemed like
Speaker 1: a little bit where they were like, uh, were you
Speaker 1: guys were all like last season, it seems like we were.
Speaker 1: We were holding back a little bit, and at least
Speaker 1: just in this first episode, we got a lot of
Speaker 1: really good stuff. I wanted to kind of go through
Speaker 1: the episode with you and just get your hot takes
Speaker 1: on everything, and then I can give you mine as well. Um,
Speaker 1: and then you know, yeah, I would love to ask
Speaker 1: you real quick, what was what was your overall thought
Speaker 1: of the show just in general though, I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're compared to last season just as a package. So
Speaker 1: last season I was fused because there were some things
Speaker 1: that I felt were clunky or inauthentic. I thought Misha
Speaker 1: was one of those things, and it just seemed like
Speaker 1: it was a name that we were throwing out to
Speaker 1: get people to watch. And I don't think the show
Speaker 1: needed that. You know, the show is really you guys.
Speaker 1: You know, it's Brody, It's it's you, It's it's Adrina,
Speaker 1: um for Black, you know it, it's Kristen apparently. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's all those people. And and so once we
Speaker 1: kind of it was kind of boiled back down to that.
Speaker 1: Um it felt better for me. And I think that
Speaker 1: first scene of everyone coming to Brody's house, Um, this
Speaker 1: weird like homecoming that you guys had, seemed really real
Speaker 1: this time. Um, And like everything about it seemed real,
Speaker 1: like uh, like Adrena coming and being I don't know
Speaker 1: a little like nervous, and she's got kind of like
Speaker 1: this nervous energy, um, Spencer coming wearing a cape, like
Speaker 1: all these things. That was like, Yep, this all checks
Speaker 1: out for me. You bring up a very valid point, though,
Speaker 1: is because that's the cool thing about this is actually
Speaker 1: seeing that the burial and I wish there was more
Speaker 1: because there was so much like there's so much authenticity
Speaker 1: even from Frankie and jen uh and you know, and
Speaker 1: some of the other people that went that we didn't
Speaker 1: get to see, even Ashley and everything that she was
Speaker 1: going through. But that's kind of that That was really
Speaker 1: what sets the precedent for the show is everything that
Speaker 1: they were talking about, like all the things that went
Speaker 1: into the box and stuff. We're really what people were
Speaker 1: working on. It wasn't just like a flash in the past.
Speaker 1: Let's just do this to get the scene over with.
Speaker 1: It was like, this is what really sets the tone
Speaker 1: for the show moving forward. So the fact that it
Speaker 1: came off authentic and the fact that it was authentic
Speaker 1: as I see it, win win. Yeah. The first thing
Speaker 1: we kind of learned about we talked about on the
Speaker 1: show is Audrina and Brody kind of coming to this
Speaker 1: I don't know, confession moment of like they kissed or whatnot. Um,
Speaker 1: And this is just coming as an outsider watching this show.
Speaker 1: It sounds like they did a whole lot more than
Speaker 1: just make out. It sounds like they she slept over,
Speaker 1: And when I hear sleep over, I think they're going
Speaker 1: to poundtown population Adrina and Brody. Am I reading that wrong?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how I read it. Bro I guess
Speaker 1: you gotta leave it to the imagination here. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know how many times you stay at a friend's,
Speaker 1: you know, a friend's house and sleep over and have
Speaker 1: long nights without just more than a kiss happening. But
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. You know,
Speaker 1: I have my own belief system, but you know it's
Speaker 1: I guess leave it up to everybody to make their
Speaker 1: own decision on that one. Yeah, I like the idea
Speaker 1: of you know, kind of like burying all your your
Speaker 1: old or you know, the things in your past that
Speaker 1: you want to leave behind and then you know, starting
Speaker 1: a new. Um. I love yours because I think yours
Speaker 1: was very real and vulnerable and relatable. Which was um
Speaker 1: the pill bottle of adderall. Were you thinking of doing
Speaker 1: something else or was it always going to be that? No?
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, I went back. I mean I went
Speaker 1: back and forth. I mean it was all related into
Speaker 1: the addiction stuff. I mean, I think that was. You know,
Speaker 1: the one that really tore me down the most, even
Speaker 1: more than alcohol, was when I relapsed on adderall after
Speaker 1: all that time of sobriety. Because you gotta remember I
Speaker 1: had five years of sobriety, my original sobriety it was
Speaker 1: July um and after acquiring all that time, I mean,
Speaker 1: the thing that really took me out was an alcohol.
Speaker 1: It was adderall. And it took me four years to
Speaker 1: acquire a year of sobriety again. I mean that's and
Speaker 1: it opened up other addictions that I didn't even know.
Speaker 1: I had body imaging stuff, and it took took me
Speaker 1: to a place of a game like obsessive gambling, which
Speaker 1: we talked about last last time. I mean, there was
Speaker 1: just so many downfalls with that, but I'm I'm great
Speaker 1: that everything happened because it helped me do a lot
Speaker 1: deeper dive and a much more in depth search of myself. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, compared to this dealing with the alcohol, because
Speaker 1: those things were technically under underlying that I never really
Speaker 1: dealt with, and it gave me that opportunity to do that.
Speaker 1: But today, man, I can tell you, I'm in one
Speaker 1: of the probably the best place I've ever been in
Speaker 1: my entire life. That's awesome, and I'm I'm glad to
Speaker 1: hear that. Um. You know, you kind of mentioned it
Speaker 1: earlier where a lot of people were cut out of
Speaker 1: what they buried. What did your what did your wife barry?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like that wasn't in there. Yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: And I think that was again going along with my
Speaker 1: addiction and her codependency, she threw in actually a remote control. Uh.
Speaker 1: She wanted to let go of control, like literally, because
Speaker 1: the codependence whole thing is they dictate their happiness and
Speaker 1: their well being on other people's emotion, and she wanted
Speaker 1: to be able to let go of the controlling factor
Speaker 1: that she she likes to put on situations to try
Speaker 1: to get make herself feel better. And it was a
Speaker 1: very it was a very personal thing and I you know,
Speaker 1: just to uh to Jen and Frankie's you know, Frankie
Speaker 1: had a real amazing storyline which I hope hands out,
Speaker 1: you know, around you know, the pandemic hits bro and
Speaker 1: this guy's whole life is based around nightlife. And I
Speaker 1: mean he built a a massive business around that and
Speaker 1: then overnight, boom, dude gone. So what does this guy
Speaker 1: do to pivot? And there was a lot of Again
Speaker 1: I don't want to say too much because I don't
Speaker 1: know what's gonna come out, but it was like hearing
Speaker 1: his wife and hearing you know, the transition was was
Speaker 1: very very powerful. Yeah, it was emotional too, man. I
Speaker 1: mean she threw in a clock and you know, wanting
Speaker 1: she threw a clock in and it was you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to deal with the late nights anymore.
Speaker 1: It was it was something that was especially knowing them
Speaker 1: and knowing their family, it was like it hit home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's too bad that that wasn't in there. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could have replaced. I feel like Justin Bobby's with
Speaker 1: that one because Justin Bobby's but also maybe was the
Speaker 1: most Justin Bobby thing ever, which was like, I'm just
Speaker 1: I don't want to be tied down and I want
Speaker 1: to continue to travel the world. It's like, dude, you've
Speaker 1: been living in Mexico this and what do you talking?
Speaker 1: You haven't been tied down? Like I love by the way,
Speaker 1: he kind of contradict you a little bit. He but
Speaker 1: he is my favorite person because I think that for
Speaker 1: as like bonkers as he is, I think he is
Speaker 1: the most self aware. He's just like I love who
Speaker 1: I am and I want to continue to keep on
Speaker 1: being me because and I gotta I gotta do. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you this much, man is this season I got
Speaker 1: I got very close with Justin out of all people,
Speaker 1: I love the dude. And you will find out why
Speaker 1: Justin is the way he is this season. It took
Speaker 1: me fourteen years, and this last season I learned more
Speaker 1: about Justin than I've known in the last fourteen fifteen
Speaker 1: years of knowing it. Uh, And it's it's crazy to
Speaker 1: hear and see what he's experienced in his life because
Speaker 1: I'm always like, dude, where does this Jack Sparrow guy
Speaker 1: come from you know what I mean, Like I have
Speaker 1: a pretty good read on like who I can connect
Speaker 1: with you, like where is this? You know his fly
Speaker 1: by Night kind of like on his pirate ship and
Speaker 1: in and then you really get a good understanding of like, wow, dude,
Speaker 1: I mean it would be nice to again you got
Speaker 1: to connect with somebody to be able to have that
Speaker 1: you know, vulnerability with them, and uh, he just blew
Speaker 1: me away. I mean it was just like wow, man,
Speaker 1: like you've experienced a lot, ish a lot, and he
Speaker 1: opened up about it. Do it this year. It's a
Speaker 1: different side. I think his storyline is gonna be one
Speaker 1: of the best. Yeah, I believe that, And I know
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it like condescendingly. He He's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite people to watch on the show just because
Speaker 1: I'm like, I could never be you, but I would
Speaker 1: love to be to be like you, but I could
Speaker 1: never do it because of like taxes and like a mortgage.
Speaker 1: He is he is probably he is the most self
Speaker 1: aware of person on the show. I mean he is
Speaker 1: so in tune with uh, and it's almost to a
Speaker 1: point of like I kind of endy it too, you know,
Speaker 1: to a degree. He's just so in touch, um and
Speaker 1: he really knows what he wants, you know, but it's
Speaker 1: it's see why it's unraveled the way it did. Though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I can't wait for that. Uh, we'll keep on
Speaker 1: like kind of going through the episode. Um oh, my
Speaker 1: my favorite thing was was Spencer's cape that he was wearing,
Speaker 1: and like, was he hiding the chicken pot pie in
Speaker 1: the cape the entire time where they're multiple chicken pot pies?
Speaker 1: Where did that come from? Dude? I mean the best
Speaker 1: part is even after that, you know, after it cut,
Speaker 1: after he took a bite and put it back in there,
Speaker 1: he went back in again another bite. So they left
Speaker 1: that part out. Dude, But he loves those chicken pot pies. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: say what you want about Spencer. The kid knows how
Speaker 1: to make some reality TV. I'll give him that. Um okay.
Speaker 1: So we had to go over to Caitlin and Brody
Speaker 1: hanging out at their house. There were just some things
Speaker 1: that I just thought was kind of interesting. They wouldn't mention,
Speaker 1: Like the she who shall not be named. Everyone knows
Speaker 1: they're talking about Miley Cyrus, but they're not. They don't
Speaker 1: want to say it, but okay, I get it. My
Speaker 1: favorite thing you like, you don't you like how her
Speaker 1: song came on right after? Really like I was like,
Speaker 1: this is beautiful. And also you have to remember I
Speaker 1: do another show with Miley's sister, So I'm just sitting
Speaker 1: there being like, can't wait to talk to Brandy about
Speaker 1: this one. This is gonna be great. Ye. So my
Speaker 1: favorite part of that, and I don't know if I
Speaker 1: have anything to like, any opinion about it, just my
Speaker 1: favorite part where he was like, I was just so
Speaker 1: cut off guard by the lesbian stuff and you're like, wait,
Speaker 1: hold on. The whole dialogue last year from what I remember,
Speaker 1: was that you guys were swingers, which I assume means
Speaker 1: that there was multiple women involved in the bed, Like
Speaker 1: so what do you what are you talking about right now?
Speaker 1: That just was my takeaway, right No, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it was kind of a shock to all of us,
Speaker 1: and I think Brodie even kind of addressed that, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think actually Caitlin addressed that, you know,
Speaker 1: and and I don't know if you caught that. She's
Speaker 1: kind of like, we kind of experimented in that other
Speaker 1: area and he's like, yeah, but I didn't know this
Speaker 1: whole other things. It was, it was a little it
Speaker 1: was it was shocking to us, and it kind of
Speaker 1: came more it was it was shocking to us that
Speaker 1: it was a shock to him. Yeah, I do feel bad.
Speaker 1: I feel for Caitlin because you know, in that scene,
Speaker 1: she's like, I wish that you kind of had like
Speaker 1: reset your life when we were together, so we were
Speaker 1: able to have these conversations, these kind of lucid, real
Speaker 1: honest conversations back then things might have been different. And
Speaker 1: the whole time, I just kept thinking, is she that
Speaker 1: woman who still really wants to be with him? Like
Speaker 1: it's I was wondering it seems like he has definitely
Speaker 1: moved on, uh audrina um, but like it seems like
Speaker 1: she kind of, I don't know, still pines for that.
Speaker 1: Do you get that viber No, No, I mean it did.
Speaker 1: It was Look, it was it was very like I'm
Speaker 1: on the same page you are. I mean to see
Speaker 1: her state what she stated, and the fact that they
Speaker 1: were able to have these very very raw and transparent
Speaker 1: conversations in a in a very sober environment, and it's
Speaker 1: you know, from her from the a she made it,
Speaker 1: you know, seemin sound is that they weren't able to
Speaker 1: really ever have these conversations until now, because Brody really
Speaker 1: had a cool journey with you know, uh, getting rid
Speaker 1: of alcohol and you've got to see a really great
Speaker 1: side to this guy in a very a very ro
Speaker 1: Rob Brody this year, which is another cool factor and
Speaker 1: facet to the show. But I mean, I I felt
Speaker 1: for Caitlin because it was almost kind of like, this
Speaker 1: is what she was longing for even if they didn't
Speaker 1: even if they didn't make it, you know, it was
Speaker 1: just more of being able to have that closure in
Speaker 1: the context of the relationship, if that makes sense, you know,
Speaker 1: And uh, it was you know, I felt bad for her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how did too? I mean, and I think that that
Speaker 1: it's probably how the entire audience felt about at least
Speaker 1: that's how I feel like it was edited to towards that.
Speaker 1: I will say this, though Brody does look really good.
Speaker 1: It's very interesting when you see someone who cleans themselves
Speaker 1: their act up a little bit and like how that
Speaker 1: looks on their face. Uh he I mean, he looks
Speaker 1: thinner and healthier and um, anyways, weird side plot, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if dude look no, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's but it's important to talk about because I think
Speaker 1: that's the thing with him is I mean physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually.
Speaker 1: I mean Brodie, Brodie was uh, you know when he
Speaker 1: was on this journey of of you know, self discovery.
Speaker 1: I mean, he is it. It showed in all areas,
Speaker 1: you know, not just not only physically, but like I said,
Speaker 1: mentally emotionally. I mean he uh you could see the
Speaker 1: change and he was you doing well? You know. The
Speaker 1: next two scenes I thought, are they were silly because
Speaker 1: they aren't to me, unrealistic, But maybe I'm wrong. The
Speaker 1: next scene was that, like Audrina goes over to Heidi
Speaker 1: so like get ready for a date, which I don't
Speaker 1: feel like anyone does that. They're not like I'm going
Speaker 1: on a blind date and I'm coming over and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna show you some outfits and we're gonna have him champaign.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's how that works. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think anything's possible with Heidi and Spencer, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean how they do an introduction with somebody. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it seems a little out of context, but I
Speaker 1: mean the fact that they were the ones setting up
Speaker 1: the the blind date. Uh, I mean, I don't know, dude,
Speaker 1: I mean it, I wouldn't be going over my buddy's house. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, to to to get ready and talk about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's a girl thing, Yeah, maybe so,
Speaker 1: and then maybe it's a guy thing. The next scene
Speaker 1: is Brodie, Brandon and Justin painting Brodie's wall, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, the biggest asshole move ever. If you ever
Speaker 1: asked me to come over and paint at your house,
Speaker 1: we are no longer friends. This is over right right there.
Speaker 1: I mean that was I was. I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: what's funny is I get that? But I actually thought
Speaker 1: that was a good scene. I mean, you gotta see
Speaker 1: Brandon in a very I mean I died laughing at
Speaker 1: Brandon said, I've never picked up a paint roller or
Speaker 1: I've never painted a wall, which was which was great.
Speaker 1: But I mean I thought that was a good scene
Speaker 1: for Brandon to be able to kind of transition it
Speaker 1: in into that relationship that he was, you know, getting
Speaker 1: committed to. But uh, paint in the garage was definitely,
Speaker 1: uh something I didn't see coming. Yeah. Two things, Brandon
Speaker 1: saying he never has painted anything his life and in
Speaker 1: his next scene where he sets up the the like
Speaker 1: really cool dates on top of the mountain. Uh, he's
Speaker 1: wearing pants that have paint, like like artistic paint like
Speaker 1: on it, you know. Or I was like, what's okay?
Speaker 1: But anyways, I do love that he like bore his
Speaker 1: soul about the love of his life and how he
Speaker 1: really wants to like be a better man and settle
Speaker 1: down to the one guy who I feel like can't
Speaker 1: relate to that at all, in Justin Bobby. Justin Bobby
Speaker 1: is just like huh huh, yeah, okay, I don't know, man, cool.
Speaker 1: But I think it goes back to that awareness that
Speaker 1: Justin's got right. He's a good listener, you know, for
Speaker 1: for for Ja get he was looking for some of
Speaker 1: those words of wisdom from Justin. Yeah exactly. Uh but no,
Speaker 1: I I did. I like that scene. But it's like
Speaker 1: it's kind of similar to like when your friends ask
Speaker 1: you to help them move and you're like, oh, dude, really,
Speaker 1: I mean I realized we need things to like set
Speaker 1: up things, but I'd be like, we're painting. Why can't
Speaker 1: we do what Spencer and Heidi do, which is just
Speaker 1: like get champagne and we just hang out. That seems
Speaker 1: that seems more of my speed. Guys, right right, I
Speaker 1: did I and I think that you gotta gotta lace
Speaker 1: some of that stuff up for it to get some
Speaker 1: of that juicy content. I get it. Um. So going
Speaker 1: on to the next part of the show, this is
Speaker 1: where I listen, I understand, we have to we have
Speaker 1: to involve like you know, third parties and people that
Speaker 1: haven't been a part of the show. But it's where, um,
Speaker 1: when you have never done a reality show, it shows
Speaker 1: on TV really really unfortunately poorly. And that's Audrina going
Speaker 1: on this date with Rod Stewart's kid or something. Because
Speaker 1: the poor guy was shaken in the wind like a
Speaker 1: fucking leaf. Dude. I felt really really you could tell
Speaker 1: he was just so scared. It was it was a
Speaker 1: it was an awkward scene. I mean, I I again,
Speaker 1: is knowing the guy, he's actually very very funny, he's
Speaker 1: very like outlandish and stuff. But from your perspective, what
Speaker 1: was your take as if you're not, you know, not
Speaker 1: knowing him in the context of what we do. I'm curious. Well,
Speaker 1: so I looked at it from the complete different view
Speaker 1: because now I look at things through production and I
Speaker 1: could see what the camera guy was doing and they
Speaker 1: I could see that they kind of cut away from
Speaker 1: it because they didn't really want to celebrate it a lot.
Speaker 1: But the camera guy kept trying to focus in on
Speaker 1: him like pouring glass and holding pouring water and like
Speaker 1: holding the glass because you could see it was really
Speaker 1: shaking in his hand, and I'm sure the camera guy
Speaker 1: thought like, oh my god, this is great. But then
Speaker 1: I'm sure like in posts, they were like, we can't
Speaker 1: just drag Rod Stewart's kid like this, so like we
Speaker 1: got to cut it a little bit. But I thought
Speaker 1: he did a good like I thought it was it
Speaker 1: was because I think that they're both kind of dorky, uh, Like,
Speaker 1: I think a Drina is a really sweet, really sweet woman,
Speaker 1: but I think she is kind of a nerd, and
Speaker 1: I think that guy's kind of a nerd. And then
Speaker 1: they kind of nerd it out together and it actually
Speaker 1: ended up being really cute. But it was it was
Speaker 1: very like on The Bachelor. What would have happened there
Speaker 1: that like I wish that MTV would have would have
Speaker 1: really really kind of like embraced. Was that that's when
Speaker 1: the when they would play the awkward music and you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it makes it so much worse too, you know,
Speaker 1: like the carnival music, we're just like, uh, poor guy
Speaker 1: or the or the crickets. Yeah yeah, now, and that
Speaker 1: it's he's another piece of the show that he is.
Speaker 1: He's a character, dude, He's he's a trip. It's it's
Speaker 1: fun to watch him as the season goes on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I saw so I saw like in the like
Speaker 1: the teaser for next episode he's back and he like
Speaker 1: goes in for a kiss and that seems awkward but
Speaker 1: like just maybe like very apropos for like their relationship. Anyways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited for him to blossom. And I really hope,
Speaker 1: like Rod Stewart, somehow it's brought into the show. I
Speaker 1: know you can't say anything, but I would really I'd
Speaker 1: really like that. And then I do hope that MTV
Speaker 1: plays like Maggie May one episode and that would just
Speaker 1: really be beautiful. All right, Hey, anything's possible, man. Um.
Speaker 1: I really like so Brandon was another one of those
Speaker 1: guys from season one of OF or at least last
Speaker 1: season UM the reboot that I was like confused by.
Speaker 1: I was like, you're not part of the original cast.
Speaker 1: It seems like kind of a name you're throwing in
Speaker 1: there to get people excited about the show, and this
Speaker 1: opens doors for Pam and Tommy to somehow get on,
Speaker 1: which I get from like a producer standpoint. But um,
Speaker 1: having Brandon his character arc is starting to like lure
Speaker 1: me in. And I really did like what he did
Speaker 1: last night. I thought it was really cute and it
Speaker 1: seemed really authentic. My only thought is, like him worrying
Speaker 1: about money so much and like bearing the hunter to
Speaker 1: all our bill and having a lot of money and
Speaker 1: now not having a lot of money. It's like, hey, bro, dude,
Speaker 1: just sell the Porsche or the range Rover, Like just
Speaker 1: make a decision and then that's some money right there.
Speaker 1: That's that was my thought, right. Yeah. No, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I mean Brandon. I've got to know
Speaker 1: Brandon a lot over this. He's actually one of the
Speaker 1: guys that got the closest with over the show. I
Speaker 1: think it's it's understanding keeping in mind he is still
Speaker 1: really young. But also, you know, I look at it
Speaker 1: from I give him a lot of respect. I mean
Speaker 1: the guy that's you know, lives a life and recovery
Speaker 1: and and having the parents that he did, who are icons,
Speaker 1: you know, to kind of still have the stability that
Speaker 1: he does is very respectable. I mean there you know,
Speaker 1: there's moments of Brandon where it's like, come on, bro
Speaker 1: but it's also when you kind of look back at
Speaker 1: where he's at and what he's been able to accomplish,
Speaker 1: it's it's, uh, it's pretty it's it's pretty incredible, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's and I mean him like, he's
Speaker 1: probably one of my favorite dudes on the show. Uh
Speaker 1: we've got we we golf a time together. Um, and
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's got a heart of gold. And
Speaker 1: I think he's just still in he's still in the
Speaker 1: discovery phase. You I mean, he's young, and I think
Speaker 1: bringing him on, whereas he was friends with Brody, his
Speaker 1: friends with some of the other cast, but I think
Speaker 1: it was trying to bring on like a younger face
Speaker 1: to kind of get some of the old elements of
Speaker 1: the show back. Um. You know, I I see what
Speaker 1: you're saying from the initial piece, but I think that
Speaker 1: he is uh, I think he's he's one of the
Speaker 1: breakout guys. I think he's gonna you know, he's really
Speaker 1: gonna have a great storyline this year. Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: And uh, it was the day was really really cute,
Speaker 1: Like the whole thing. It was either it was either
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kidnap you, um and you're not safe, or
Speaker 1: like this is gonna be really really cute and like
Speaker 1: the blindfold is a good thing. But you know, he's
Speaker 1: a really like like a romantic like I know he
Speaker 1: said it multiple times, but dude, like he was, He's
Speaker 1: in love with this chick like fully, like he's fully committed.
Speaker 1: And I mean you can see, you know, even when
Speaker 1: they I mean there's obviously abouts this on and off
Speaker 1: camera when they had you know, their moments, and it
Speaker 1: really messed him up, you know. So, uh, is his
Speaker 1: heart in the right place? Yeah? I like him a lot. Um.
Speaker 1: And then kind of the last scene is Heidi and
Speaker 1: Spencer having this baby talk, which um, so like it's
Speaker 1: just hilarious to me because it's such good like comic
Speaker 1: relief stuff of like him eating the pot pie thing
Speaker 1: like completely like has not given up the pot pie
Speaker 1: a situation. He's spilling it all over himself and then
Speaker 1: Heidi like getting all dolled up and he's just like
Speaker 1: all right, here we go. And here's the thing that
Speaker 1: like was I can't blame saying this, but was relatable
Speaker 1: in my relationship. Um that they were doing last night.
Speaker 1: She was having a full on breakdown and he was
Speaker 1: just sitting there staring at her, and like I now
Speaker 1: know from being in trouble for this um that like
Speaker 1: when that happens, like he needed to like embrace her
Speaker 1: and be like, babe, it's gonna be okay, and like yes,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have her kid and like you know, like
Speaker 1: make her feel better. And he's just sitting there in
Speaker 1: the pop pie being like uh huh, yeah, okay, No,
Speaker 1: I mean yes, And I've learned that first chance, especially
Speaker 1: with Ashley being being pregnant. I mean, dude, it's one
Speaker 1: thing to to get pregnant, but also the hormones and
Speaker 1: stuff are so real when a girl is pregnant, and yes,
Speaker 1: to be able to embrace and support and show the
Speaker 1: love and compassion is is it's a must. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: guess if he did like embracer and like calmer nerves
Speaker 1: and uh and make her feel better, it would be
Speaker 1: at a character and then it would have been in
Speaker 1: a confusing scenes. Yeah. Actually, like really tracked perfectly. But
Speaker 1: it was just kind of like a funny. It was
Speaker 1: a really nice it was I just I look at
Speaker 1: it through like creating this show. It was a really
Speaker 1: nice bow because you opened with this pop pie thing
Speaker 1: and then you have the call back at the end,
Speaker 1: and then it's just like here we go going forward,
Speaker 1: and obviously the preview of what's to come, UM, Kristen's back,
Speaker 1: which I think everyone is really excited about. UM, it
Speaker 1: looks like Brody and Audrina hook up again, I guess,
Speaker 1: and then there's obviously going to be drama with Brody
Speaker 1: and Um and Caitlin. What are you the most excited about,
Speaker 1: UM for this season going forward? Obviously you can't say
Speaker 1: too much, but vaguely, what are you pumped for? Uh?
Speaker 1: And I don't want to repeat myself for sound redundant,
Speaker 1: but I think I'm really excited for people to get
Speaker 1: to know everybody at a different level than they did
Speaker 1: this last season that we had. Uh, You're gonna see
Speaker 1: you know, everybody goes through their own trials and tribulations.
Speaker 1: Obviously the whole world was in a very weird place
Speaker 1: when we were shooting this show. You're gonna see a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, you're gonna see a lot of
Speaker 1: um setbacks that turn into comebacks. You're gonna see a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, you're gonna see a lot of
Speaker 1: real raw motion come out from you know, each other individuals.
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's parts, uh that were there's very
Speaker 1: there's very hurtful parts of part process of the show,
Speaker 1: like that ror that we walked through personally, um, you know,
Speaker 1: and so you're gonna get to experience that. And I
Speaker 1: think it's it's it's gonna bring people back in an
Speaker 1: element where you're gonna be able to identify with one
Speaker 1: one form or another to the cast. And I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna really carry it on versus kind of it
Speaker 1: everybody being thrown together, let's kind of see where we fit.
Speaker 1: Everybody really takes lane and everybody walks through something differently
Speaker 1: this year, you know. And I think that's what's gonna
Speaker 1: be the real, the real catch here, especially as we
Speaker 1: are you know, actually in this this pandemic or however
Speaker 1: you want to look at it. I think it's a
Speaker 1: lot of people how to make some major changes in
Speaker 1: their lives. Uh, speaking of making changes in your life,
Speaker 1: and I could be wrong. But I feel like on
Speaker 1: some teaser I watched, there is some hint or some
Speaker 1: allegation that Spencer says that you relaxed, but you didn't.
Speaker 1: Is that Did I see that? Right? Or Am I
Speaker 1: making that up? No? You did? You did see that.
Speaker 1: You did see that, And and I will say this again,
Speaker 1: is how it plays out is uh, is very very interesting,
Speaker 1: you know, especially having somebody last sees and that walk
Speaker 1: through everything that I went through, Heidi, who knows my
Speaker 1: whole history and everything that I've experienced over the course
Speaker 1: of time. I mean I lived with Heidi back in
Speaker 1: the day, you know when when back in the day
Speaker 1: with Lauren and stuff, and she knew all my trials
Speaker 1: and tribulations, and uh, you know, I got very open
Speaker 1: with with with Spencer over last season about what I
Speaker 1: went through and to have the audacity to you know,
Speaker 1: pull those things out. It was it was just very
Speaker 1: hurtful and very disrespectful. And one thing I got thick skin, dude,
Speaker 1: I've lived through a lot. I mean, it's it takes
Speaker 1: a lot for you to piss me off. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of stuff rolls off my shoulders. But
Speaker 1: when you come to my family or my sobriety. Those
Speaker 1: are two lines you don't cross, uh. And it's something
Speaker 1: that I hold very near and dear to my heart.
Speaker 1: My addiction isn't like I you know, I drink here
Speaker 1: and I mean this stuff it takes ahold of my
Speaker 1: life and it brings me to suicide. It brings me
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't just lose myself, dude, I lose
Speaker 1: everything around me. I lose my friends, I lose my family,
Speaker 1: like I've seen it happen before. And it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's the it is the crux of of of the
Speaker 1: life I live today and we're coming it's it's it's
Speaker 1: imperative to the to to me living is my sobriety.
Speaker 1: And so it's something I take a lot a lot
Speaker 1: of pride in um and and I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people should. I think it's just it was the
Speaker 1: timing of it. It just couldn't be worse. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at look at is has increased with suicides with overdose.
Speaker 1: I mean that this the the timing too, was was
Speaker 1: horrible to bring up stuff around people's sobriety and such
Speaker 1: a devastating time. This is the only disease that has
Speaker 1: been on a steady incline, with the amount of deaths
Speaker 1: increasing by every year with a steady decline of the
Speaker 1: amount of success. This is the leading cause of death
Speaker 1: in America for fit year old individuals and younger. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you look at that and you have you just
Speaker 1: want to you want to clown with something like that.
Speaker 1: It's bullshit, you know what I mean, And you want
Speaker 1: to I mean, and when it comes to it's like
Speaker 1: making fun of somebody with cancer, you know, And that's
Speaker 1: it's it's not a it's not okay, it's not acceptable
Speaker 1: and it's not cool. Um. And and you'll see that
Speaker 1: we don't take that lightly. Well, I'm glad to hear that.
Speaker 1: And I totally agree with you, you know, I think
Speaker 1: that as I kind of try to break down the
Speaker 1: Heidi and Spencer of it all, you know, for the
Speaker 1: truth of the matter is it's hard to be filled.
Speaker 1: It's hard to be kind of entrenched in the drama
Speaker 1: when you're kind of married with a kid and like
Speaker 1: everything is kind of normal. And it seems like now
Speaker 1: he still wants to be the pot stir, but he's
Speaker 1: not really in the soup anymore. Um. And it's one
Speaker 1: thing to be like I heard you made out with Brody.
Speaker 1: It's a whole another thing to say something like that
Speaker 1: to you. And in his mind he might think of
Speaker 1: those things as as parallel, but um, obviously I think
Speaker 1: for him it's for him, but also for the audience especially,
Speaker 1: everyone needs to know that those things are not parallel.
Speaker 1: They are completely different and they need to be treated
Speaker 1: differently as such. So I'm glad to hear that at
Speaker 1: least you and I would and I would give validation
Speaker 1: to that for sure. And what you're saying I had
Speaker 1: to percent agree with. But the fact is, keep in
Speaker 1: mind I've had very open and transparent conversations with him
Speaker 1: on m or last season that came out to know
Speaker 1: what I struggled with, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it wasn't like there and I was very real with them,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So he knows, you know,
Speaker 1: what I really go through and where where my addiction
Speaker 1: takes me. Uh. So it's like, yeah, not only are
Speaker 1: those not you know, even in the same lines or
Speaker 1: even in the same atmosphere. Dude. Uh, it's the fact
Speaker 1: that he also knew what he knew, uh to say
Speaker 1: those things. It's just it's digging where it's it's below
Speaker 1: the belt stuff. Yeah. Well, man, I love talking with
Speaker 1: you because of your honesty, your vulnerability. And then also,
Speaker 1: like I said earlier that you you know, you talked
Speaker 1: to talk, but you also walk the walk and um,
Speaker 1: you work with a lot of programs trying to help this.
Speaker 1: You know, this this epidemic that's happening in our society.
Speaker 1: So tell everyone out there, um, the work that you're
Speaker 1: doing and how you can help them and they can
Speaker 1: help themselves. Yeah. So one of the main things I'm
Speaker 1: really focusing on is I mean I've served on the
Speaker 1: board for Los Angeles Mission. Still I am the coach
Speaker 1: here now. The reds Onward Foundation, what we have created
Speaker 1: the most safe and trust of resource for anybody that
Speaker 1: is struggling with mental health, substance abuse, or trauma. It's
Speaker 1: a place that you can come and get educated on
Speaker 1: how do you know if you struggle with substance abuse,
Speaker 1: how do you know you struggle with trauma? How do
Speaker 1: you know you struggle with mental health? Uh, to get
Speaker 1: you educated. And then we also provide cash scholarships. We've
Speaker 1: given away over a million dollars in scholarships in the
Speaker 1: last year. Uh. We have three clients that have currently
Speaker 1: just received scholarships right now that are in treatment getting help,
Speaker 1: and we are a place for you to come to. UH.
Speaker 1: You know too that there's no judgment, it's there's no shame,
Speaker 1: no guilt, uh, and to try to get you on
Speaker 1: the right track. You know, we're really there for people
Speaker 1: that don't have the means to get the help that
Speaker 1: they need, and we try to help foster that. UM.
Speaker 1: We have many amazing events going on, we have speaking engagements, seminars,
Speaker 1: uh and really just trying to be a resource and
Speaker 1: the tool for people because there's so much negative connotation
Speaker 1: with the treatment industry. And look, treatment does work and
Speaker 1: recovery as possible, but it's very important that you get
Speaker 1: properly educated and get to a place that is really
Speaker 1: to foster the needs for you. UM. There is no
Speaker 1: one stop shop, there's no cookie cutter. This is very
Speaker 1: very multifaceted disease. UH. So we we pride ourselves on
Speaker 1: just being being the go to help help source when
Speaker 1: you're struggling. And UH I utilized my platform on a
Speaker 1: daily uh to try to inspire and give people hope
Speaker 1: that there's a better way and then the main thing
Speaker 1: I'm really passionate about right now is Ashley n Eyes
Speaker 1: Jaws Diaries that we just kicked off the second season of.
Speaker 1: So last year we started Jaws, which is really encompassing
Speaker 1: our storyline last season talking about recovery, codependency. So many
Speaker 1: people are asking us questions, you know, on a daily like, hey,
Speaker 1: my husband struggling, my wife, my daughter, you know, what
Speaker 1: do we do? And we couldn't get back to all
Speaker 1: these people, so we said, hey, let's do a show
Speaker 1: that's really gonna walk through on a weekly basis of
Speaker 1: what both of us go through from the alcoholic and
Speaker 1: the codependent until I hit a year once one year
Speaker 1: of sobriety, and I ended up getting a year of
Speaker 1: sobriety through that show. And now we're going to talk
Speaker 1: more about, you know, the continuation of recovery. So we
Speaker 1: went through the first stages of it. Now we're in
Speaker 1: the second stag just so ash and I really share
Speaker 1: our journey and we have professionals coming on this year
Speaker 1: to help us with situations that we run into, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's something that we're just really really passionate about, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's fun. We love doing it. So people
Speaker 1: want to connect where they go Instagram Jason Waller, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, or or check us out on our our
Speaker 1: YouTube show It's Jaws Diaries, which is Jason and Ashley
Speaker 1: Waller UM or read Songbird UH foundation dot org is
Speaker 1: if you guys are needing to help, check us out
Speaker 1: there and we'd be happy to try to put you
Speaker 1: on the right track. Jason, Man, I love you do.
Speaker 1: It's always fun talking with you. UM. Listen, everyone out there.
Speaker 1: If you are struggling, you know, reach out, go go
Speaker 1: follow Jason and um and yeah, you know, reach out
Speaker 1: for help. I love you on the show man. I
Speaker 1: do hope there's more of you because I do think
Speaker 1: you're the most the most compelling character on this whole thing. Uh.
Speaker 1: So I hope there's a lot more of your fingers
Speaker 1: crossed for that. Uh continued success. And let's go play golf, dude.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm an avid golf or I'll play golf with
Speaker 1: you guys. Let's go play, man, I'll shoot you a text.
Speaker 1: Let's set something up here. I'm always out there and
Speaker 1: play Sherwood all the time. Or if you want to
Speaker 1: come down here, we play Big Canyon or Pelican or something.
Speaker 1: And you know we gotta get to get the girls
Speaker 1: together too. We gotta just hang out your dinner or something. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'm ready man, now that we're all vaxed and relax,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Jason Waller, you are the man obviously
Speaker 1: the Hills Wednesday Night MTV. Um, keep it up, man,
Speaker 1: it's keep in touch. Thanks well, appreciate it, man, have
Speaker 1: a great day. Freaking love Jason Wallery. That guy is awesome.
Speaker 1: He's so real. He's let me just vent about the
Speaker 1: show and like gave his honest opinion. Um, and then
Speaker 1: all the work he's doing. It's just it's amazing. That
Speaker 1: dude freaking rocks man. And I swear to god, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna write a very strongly worded email to Viacom if
Speaker 1: they don't give them some more airtime, because I need
Speaker 1: some more of that guy on my Wednesday Nights on
Speaker 1: the Hills. All right, hey, we got a nice little
Speaker 1: surprise for you. We're gonna take a quick break and
Speaker 1: when we come back, what I consider the star of
Speaker 1: CS t Key will be on the Hills cast. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, guys, you do not want to miss this
Speaker 1: stick around. All right, back on Hills cast very excited
Speaker 1: to see a star from another reality show from MTV.
Speaker 1: It's Ah, Juliette, porter from c S two key. How
Speaker 1: are you doing good? Thanks for having me. I'm pumped
Speaker 1: to have you on. Um, I've obviously seen you on
Speaker 1: my television a lot, and we have a weird connection.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know it. I actually think
Speaker 1: I do know it. Um, were you on JoJo's season?
Speaker 1: I was okay, I'm right, I was like, oh, write one. Um,
Speaker 1: so you know Robbie. I do know Robbie. I spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time with him, and UM, I remember,
Speaker 1: I guess it was a couple of years ago where
Speaker 1: I was. I was working for Good Morning America doing
Speaker 1: a segment for them, and I would walk out of
Speaker 1: g m A every day and I'd see his stupid
Speaker 1: face on like all the big billboards next to you
Speaker 1: with the Siesta Key logo, and I remember texting being
Speaker 1: like you asshole. So anyways, you dated him on the show, right,
Speaker 1: How was that experience? It was good? Um? It was
Speaker 1: like it was so it was a lot in a
Speaker 1: very short period of time. I mean we dated for like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, two months maybe and we went to
Speaker 1: Greece within like the first two weeks of our relationship.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was it was interesting and then
Speaker 1: I I was like, all right, time to get back
Speaker 1: to reality, and it just it just didn't work out,
Speaker 1: just didn't work out. Well. I've heard that story a
Speaker 1: lot with Robbie, but UM, listen, I'm glad you guys
Speaker 1: had fun while lasted. Season four of Siesta Key back
Speaker 1: on MTV. UM, are you excited about this season? Are
Speaker 1: you nervous? Like what are your feelings about it going in? Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm always I'm excited and nervous pretty much
Speaker 1: every season. I mean you can relate, like being on
Speaker 1: TVs kind of scary, especially when it's you and you're
Speaker 1: not playing a part, you know. So I'm excited this
Speaker 1: season's the seasons very different from the last seasons. Um,
Speaker 1: but we still have a lot of drama and it's
Speaker 1: always uncomfortable to open up that way, but I'm getting
Speaker 1: used to it. This is like my this is my
Speaker 1: fourth season, but it's really more like seven seasons because
Speaker 1: we do like half seasons. So, UM, you know, I
Speaker 1: I just I let it, I just let it happen.
Speaker 1: I just let myself feel that anxiety and run with it.
Speaker 1: How does your family deal with all of it? Because
Speaker 1: I remember when I, uh, when I was on that
Speaker 1: side of it, the anxiety that like my mother had
Speaker 1: going into seasons was was was pretty um it was
Speaker 1: pretty palpable. Like how are you? How is your family
Speaker 1: dealing with all this? Um at this point, they're used
Speaker 1: to it, but I remember when I first started. My
Speaker 1: mom was like, I don't think you're built for this.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can you know, handle this kind
Speaker 1: of lifestyle. And my dad was like, do it. Why
Speaker 1: not see what happens, just to be a huge opportunity,
Speaker 1: which of course it was, and I'm very thankful, but
Speaker 1: um yeah, they I kind of tell them not to watch,
Speaker 1: but I know they're going to do it anyway. My
Speaker 1: my boyfriend's family watches all the time, and I'll walk
Speaker 1: in and they're watching it. I'm like, oh, gotta go
Speaker 1: buy Yeah, Like, hey, maybe don't watch the next scene
Speaker 1: and then we'll be good. Just don't worry about that.
Speaker 1: Let's all get a drink or something. Um yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: especially like my friend my boyfriend's family, they're like watching
Speaker 1: me make out with their son. I'm like this is uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Um so I guess that kind of the big storyline. Um,
Speaker 1: is is your feud with Kelsey? Mm hmm, how real
Speaker 1: is this? It's it's completely real. I don't do the
Speaker 1: fake I don't. I think that's I just don't like
Speaker 1: being fake, and I also am not good at it.
Speaker 1: I'm like a horrible liar anyway. Um so it's completely real.
Speaker 1: Her and I we lived together, and you know, she
Speaker 1: really did last year she took my boyfriend to lunch,
Speaker 1: told him I'm a gold digger, told him I don't
Speaker 1: really care about him. I'm still in love with my ex.
Speaker 1: You know, the whole nine yards that really happened. And
Speaker 1: then from there, you know, we both really started bikini
Speaker 1: lines and mine's called jumped the label subtle Plug check
Speaker 1: it out on Instagram, and um you know that was
Speaker 1: interesting for us because we were best friends and now
Speaker 1: we're sort of in competition because we're in the same
Speaker 1: you know, we're on the same television show. So you
Speaker 1: could see how our fans are going to, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe pick one or the other or compare the two,
Speaker 1: and it just it caused so much tension and a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of stuff happens in season four,
Speaker 1: So yeah, our food is definitely real. Though, well you
Speaker 1: just said a lot of stuff has happened since season four. Um,
Speaker 1: so then what are we in for? Like, what are
Speaker 1: we going to see? And what this is my other?
Speaker 1: What is my other question for you? Because you're not
Speaker 1: in edit bage, you're not seeing how this is all
Speaker 1: being shopped together, but you have a you have sense
Speaker 1: and a feeling of what the show is going to
Speaker 1: look like and who the audience is gonna love and
Speaker 1: who's the audience is gonna hate. Uh do you think
Speaker 1: they're gonna take your side or hers? So it's really
Speaker 1: difficult because in the past, when I do things wrong,
Speaker 1: I am like, oh God, everyone's gonna hate me. Everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna think I'm a monster. And people tend to take
Speaker 1: my side because when I make mistakes, I come from
Speaker 1: a place of realness and you know, it's because I'm
Speaker 1: very hurt. So it's not like just do things and
Speaker 1: with malicious intent. So I think a lot of times
Speaker 1: people kind of see where I'm coming from. And although
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily make the right decisions. Um, they're apparently
Speaker 1: they're very valid to some people. And I mean I
Speaker 1: obviously think some of my decisions are valid. Um, sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm definitely wrong. But I think what's cool about the
Speaker 1: show is, especially when you're real like me, I try
Speaker 1: to be completely authentically myself. People see that, and you
Speaker 1: know they have empathy for that. So um, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know when it comes between Kelsey and I,
Speaker 1: people are definitely gonna pick sides. But all I can
Speaker 1: do is just like it's already been filmed. So like
Speaker 1: you said, I don't get to see the edits unless
Speaker 1: I like cry and like force them to show me,
Speaker 1: which is like it's happened before, it's definitely happened. I've
Speaker 1: gotten to quit. I said, if you don't show me
Speaker 1: this scene, I will literally never film a scene again.
Speaker 1: And they're like, oh fine, and that's like not that's
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna in trouble for saying that or whatever. Well,
Speaker 1: now the same thing is that it's the same for
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, Like if you freak out, they'll be like,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll let you see it. Um, But whatever, UM,
Speaker 1: I do think I think that's I think that's funny
Speaker 1: because it's true. Um in terms of like the rest
Speaker 1: of the show, Like what can people expect, like, what,
Speaker 1: what are you excited for people to see on c um.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for people to see my my journey with
Speaker 1: starting my own business and you know how I kind
Speaker 1: of transform from being like the young immature girl who
Speaker 1: just graduated college into becoming an adult. Um me finally
Speaker 1: having a good boyfriend because I've had some shitty ones
Speaker 1: in the past, and we yeah, um, we ultimately go
Speaker 1: to an island to get away from, you know, Corona,
Speaker 1: and it's just safer and so we're all together. So
Speaker 1: that's going to cause a lot of turmoil and a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff goes down when we're all stuff on
Speaker 1: an island in the middle of the Grenadines together. So
Speaker 1: that's gonna be really crazy to see. And I think
Speaker 1: that's where like a lot of stuff happens, like the
Speaker 1: majority of all of our craziness really happens on that island.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited for people to see that. I'm also nervous,
Speaker 1: but it's going to be really entertaining, very cool. Last question,
Speaker 1: who's got the better swimsuit line? And why I do
Speaker 1: not want to be the type of girl that's gonna
Speaker 1: put others down. But obviously the answers me, kidding, but
Speaker 1: why is your I have a fiancee who wears bikinis
Speaker 1: when we go out. Why why should she I want
Speaker 1: you to pitch this to me? Why should she choose
Speaker 1: your bikini? Oh? My god. First of all, I love
Speaker 1: your fiancee. UM, So my bikinis are sustainable. We recycle
Speaker 1: up cycle, which means we use um fabrics from other
Speaker 1: bikini lines that are kind of wasting them. We want
Speaker 1: to have a positive impact on the environment. They're also
Speaker 1: a made in Bali and all of our manufacturers are
Speaker 1: women mostly mostly most of them are UM and you know,
Speaker 1: they're amazing designs. And I've put a lot of hard
Speaker 1: work and effort into it, so I hope she likes it.
Speaker 1: I like it. So where where do people go to
Speaker 1: pick up obviously the better of the two swimsuit lines?
Speaker 1: It's called Jump the label j MP the label on
Speaker 1: Instagram and yeah, you can follow if you follow me
Speaker 1: and Juliette Porter, you'll find it from there. So he
Speaker 1: has the key is back Wednesdays, UM on MTV. Juliet,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being on the show. It's
Speaker 1: been wonderful catching up with you. And I will say
Speaker 1: this I've been I've done more reality TV shows than
Speaker 1: than you have, and You've got it right. People who
Speaker 1: are honest and are real and authentic always look good
Speaker 1: because people can relate to real and honest and authentic.
Speaker 1: People that look fake look like liars, and people can't
Speaker 1: relate to that, And that's why they always look like
Speaker 1: assholes because they are. So you keep doing what you're doing. Awesome.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. Yeah see you, dude, Bhi.
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