WEBVTT - Digging Up the Dirt with Jason Wahler

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<v Speaker 1>This is a Wells cast with Wells Atoms and I

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<v Speaker 1>heart radio podcast. What up, everybody? How are we doing? Me?

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<v Speaker 1>Not so good? I was doing some core exercises. Okay, that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's stupid. That like roller thing like roll out and

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<v Speaker 1>then you roll back. It's the devil's tool, say that much.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did that, and now I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>broke my neck lower neck into shoulder blade. Can't move

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<v Speaker 1>my neck. I don't know what's happening. I do know

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening. Actually, guys, I am um, I'm getting old, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the wrong set of thirty seven comes up in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days, and it's whatever. It's fine. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't feel like I look thirty seven. They

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<v Speaker 1>look pretty great. But let me tell you something. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel it. It's happening now. I did the roller exercise

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna be down for the count for I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how long. We've all got our problems, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we've all got our trials and tribulations. But there are

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<v Speaker 1>things that can get our minds off the pain. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things is the show The Hills. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Back Baby. Last night, season two of the Hills New

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<v Speaker 1>Beginnings was bestowed upon us by the good folks over

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<v Speaker 1>at Music Television, and I will say this, it did

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<v Speaker 1>not disappoint. We got some juicy stuff from Audrina and

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<v Speaker 1>Brody hooking up, and by the way, they underplayed the

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<v Speaker 1>whole kissing thing. We'll get into it a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like it wasn't just a single, if you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, like Brody round to those basis. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Anyways, a great episode, not only with the

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<v Speaker 1>old Audrina and the Brody stuff, but the Brody and

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin stuff was great. The Brandon and the love of

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<v Speaker 1>his life of whose name I cannot remember, but it

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<v Speaker 1>seems sweet. Heidi and Spencer their love story, Spencer and

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<v Speaker 1>Chicken pop Pies their love story, Spencer and Capes their

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<v Speaker 1>love story. We've got to break it all down, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited to do it because we're gonna bring

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<v Speaker 1>on my favorite person from the cast. He's been on

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<v Speaker 1>the Wells Cast before, actually was on back what it

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<v Speaker 1>was called the Pratt Cast. Jason Waller will be on

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<v Speaker 1>talking everything from the first episode, and then we have

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<v Speaker 1>a little treat for you. Juliet Porter from CSA Key

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be on the show. This is the jam

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<v Speaker 1>packed episode of the Hills Cast. One you do not

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<v Speaker 1>want to miss. Stick around guys. Yeah, back in the

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<v Speaker 1>Wells Cast slash Hills Cast. Very excited to have helped

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<v Speaker 1>me recap episode one of season two of The Hills

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<v Speaker 1>New Beginnings. Is a guy that we actually had on

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<v Speaker 1>the show when this was originally the Pratt Cast with

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<v Speaker 1>Stephanie Pratt and who Actually, I will say this, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not blowing smoke up your ass. It was my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>interview out of anyone we did with the cast because

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<v Speaker 1>it actually felt like a real interview with a person

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<v Speaker 1>who had issues and problems and was emotional and honest.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, Jesus Christ, I wish more reality

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<v Speaker 1>TV people were like this, welcome to the show, Jason Waller,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing man, I'm good, bro. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for having me again. It's a it's great to

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<v Speaker 1>see you. It has been a long time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate the kind words. I really enjoyed our the

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<v Speaker 1>last time we all connected, and we're able to get

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<v Speaker 1>pretty open, transparent, vulnerable and have some meaningful conversation if

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<v Speaker 1>you will. Yeah, I mean not to uh like put

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<v Speaker 1>down any of the other trials and tribulations of anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else on the cast, but yours are real life problems,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I feel like they hold more weight than like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the brandings of the world where it's like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just too fucking rich and that's one of my

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<v Speaker 1>problems is I got to deal with being rich or

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<v Speaker 1>not rich now but maybe rich again later. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have substance abuse issues, like a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>people in the country, it's like this weird just juxtaposition

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<v Speaker 1>between your character or who you are and then a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the other um people on the show. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel that way where sometimes you're like we are

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<v Speaker 1>not on the same like wavelength of issues. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think really what it comes down to is like

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's got their own trials and tribulations, right, But I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what I love about ours and Ashley, myself

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<v Speaker 1>and Ashley stories that were able to be really true

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<v Speaker 1>to who we are and you know what we go through,

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes it very authentic for us because one is,

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<v Speaker 1>not only are we really going through these issues, but

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<v Speaker 1>also I know a very large proportion of society is

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<v Speaker 1>going through them. So I think there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>relatability and connectivity with that. Uh So, I mean so

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<v Speaker 1>while we're doing this, not only is it helping ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>but hopefully people are feeling that they can relate. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>And it gives us motivation. Man. That's why that's why

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing the show. Is the real reason behind it

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<v Speaker 1>is because there's a lot of people that are out

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<v Speaker 1>there that are struggling. There's a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a direction. There's a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what to do. Um and we hope to

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<v Speaker 1>to be to shed some light on that at least,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and again, we're not perfect by any means.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not saying, hey, what we're doing is the way

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. It's it's we've gone through these things.

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<v Speaker 1>We have no shame in what we've experienced because we've

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<v Speaker 1>also got we are experiencing the other side of it today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're actually really able to experience, you know, the beauty

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<v Speaker 1>of the hard work that we put towards that. Not

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<v Speaker 1>only for myself, man, you also have to remember with Ashley,

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<v Speaker 1>she is is a very heavy codependent. I mean, you've

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<v Speaker 1>heard me say this before, but I'll say it again,

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<v Speaker 1>is wherever there's alcoholic or an addict, there's a codependent

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<v Speaker 1>that is just as sick, if not sicker than the

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<v Speaker 1>attic themselves. And and that's where Ashley and Isy's relationship

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<v Speaker 1>was so toxic. And for us to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>walk through that and share that, yeah, it's very it's

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<v Speaker 1>at first it's hard and uncomfortable, but to also be

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<v Speaker 1>able to look back down and go, man, we've really

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<v Speaker 1>made progress. Like it's it feels good. Yeah. At the

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of our conversation, I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>through kind of all the the the people that you

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<v Speaker 1>work with and the programs that you are affiliated with

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<v Speaker 1>actually help people through these things that Remember, we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it kind of a lot last time you were on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Wow, this guy not only talks

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<v Speaker 1>to talk, but he's walking in as well. And I

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<v Speaker 1>really did appreciate that. Um, just right off the bat,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I thought the show seemed a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>for lack of a better word, authentic yesterday or last

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<v Speaker 1>night then it did all of the last season. What

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<v Speaker 1>are your thoughts as someone who's just kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the zeitgeist of the Hills. I personally

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<v Speaker 1>I think this season is much better than last season.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I feel like again as when we were

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<v Speaker 1>redoing the show originally it was like everybody getting back

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<v Speaker 1>together for the first time, there was you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was awkward. I mean, nobody really knew each other like

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<v Speaker 1>the depths that they did prior and coming back. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean this last year, especially since we had time pre

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<v Speaker 1>COVID and then we stopped shooting to some of us

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<v Speaker 1>stayed in touch. We really developed relationships, so we got

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<v Speaker 1>to know one another at a deeper level. So it

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<v Speaker 1>made it much more authentic and I like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I really think this season is a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>times better than last season because the dynamics are real.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to really get into the people's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to see people for what who they are

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<v Speaker 1>and what they are, and you develop relationships and connectivity

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<v Speaker 1>with the people that you you want to surround yourself with.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you're the ones you don't. You can see where

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<v Speaker 1>that really comes to comes to conflict, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people pulled back, pulled back the they didn't pull

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<v Speaker 1>back the punches this time, yeah, which I think is

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<v Speaker 1>the hallmark of a good reality show. Is is believability.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do think that that's what it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit where they were like, uh, were you

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<v Speaker 1>guys were all like last season, it seems like we were.

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<v Speaker 1>We were holding back a little bit, and at least

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<v Speaker 1>just in this first episode, we got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>really good stuff. I wanted to kind of go through

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<v Speaker 1>the episode with you and just get your hot takes

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<v Speaker 1>on everything, and then I can give you mine as well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, yeah, I would love to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you real quick, what was what was your overall thought

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<v Speaker 1>of the show just in general though, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're compared to last season just as a package. So

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<v Speaker 1>last season I was fused because there were some things

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<v Speaker 1>that I felt were clunky or inauthentic. I thought Misha

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those things, and it just seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>it was a name that we were throwing out to

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<v Speaker 1>get people to watch. And I don't think the show

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<v Speaker 1>needed that. You know, the show is really you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's Brody, It's it's you, It's it's Adrina,

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<v Speaker 1>um for Black, you know it, it's Kristen apparently. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's all those people. And and so once we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of it was kind of boiled back down to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Um it felt better for me. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>first scene of everyone coming to Brody's house, Um, this

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<v Speaker 1>weird like homecoming that you guys had, seemed really real

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<v Speaker 1>this time. Um, And like everything about it seemed real,

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<v Speaker 1>like uh, like Adrena coming and being I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>a little like nervous, and she's got kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>this nervous energy, um, Spencer coming wearing a cape, like

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<v Speaker 1>all these things. That was like, Yep, this all checks

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<v Speaker 1>out for me. You bring up a very valid point, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is because that's the cool thing about this is actually

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that the burial and I wish there was more

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<v Speaker 1>because there was so much like there's so much authenticity

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<v Speaker 1>even from Frankie and jen uh and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other people that went that we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to see, even Ashley and everything that she was

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<v Speaker 1>going through. But that's kind of that That was really

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<v Speaker 1>what sets the precedent for the show is everything that

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<v Speaker 1>they were talking about, like all the things that went

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<v Speaker 1>into the box and stuff. We're really what people were

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<v Speaker 1>working on. It wasn't just like a flash in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just do this to get the scene over with.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, this is what really sets the tone

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<v Speaker 1>for the show moving forward. So the fact that it

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<v Speaker 1>came off authentic and the fact that it was authentic

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<v Speaker 1>as I see it, win win. Yeah. The first thing

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of learned about we talked about on the

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<v Speaker 1>show is Audrina and Brody kind of coming to this

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, confession moment of like they kissed or whatnot. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is just coming as an outsider watching this show.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like they did a whole lot more than

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<v Speaker 1>just make out. It sounds like they she slept over,

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<v Speaker 1>And when I hear sleep over, I think they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to poundtown population Adrina and Brody. Am I reading that wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's how I read it. Bro I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta leave it to the imagination here. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many times you stay at a friend's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a friend's house and sleep over and have

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<v Speaker 1>long nights without just more than a kiss happening. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have my own belief system, but you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>I guess leave it up to everybody to make their

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<v Speaker 1>own decision on that one. Yeah, I like the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, kind of like burying all your your

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<v Speaker 1>old or you know, the things in your past that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to leave behind and then you know, starting

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<v Speaker 1>a new. Um. I love yours because I think yours

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<v Speaker 1>was very real and vulnerable and relatable. Which was um

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<v Speaker 1>the pill bottle of adderall. Were you thinking of doing

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<v Speaker 1>something else or was it always going to be that? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, dude, I went back. I mean I went

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth. I mean it was all related into

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<v Speaker 1>the addiction stuff. I mean, I think that was. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the one that really tore me down the most, even

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<v Speaker 1>more than alcohol, was when I relapsed on adderall after

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<v Speaker 1>all that time of sobriety. Because you gotta remember I

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<v Speaker 1>had five years of sobriety, my original sobriety it was

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<v Speaker 1>July um and after acquiring all that time, I mean,

0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:39.679
<v Speaker 1>the thing that really took me out was an alcohol.

0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.920
<v Speaker 1>It was adderall. And it took me four years to

0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.160
<v Speaker 1>acquire a year of sobriety again. I mean that's and

0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.240
<v Speaker 1>it opened up other addictions that I didn't even know.

0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I had body imaging stuff, and it took took me

0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.960
<v Speaker 1>to a place of a game like obsessive gambling, which

0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.079
<v Speaker 1>we talked about last last time. I mean, there was

0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.880
<v Speaker 1>just so many downfalls with that, but I'm I'm great

0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:01.800
<v Speaker 1>that everything happened because it helped me do a lot

0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:07.000
<v Speaker 1>deeper dive and a much more in depth search of myself. Uh,

0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, compared to this dealing with the alcohol, because

0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.960
<v Speaker 1>those things were technically under underlying that I never really

0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.559
<v Speaker 1>dealt with, and it gave me that opportunity to do that.

0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.959
<v Speaker 1>But today, man, I can tell you, I'm in one

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<v Speaker 1>of the probably the best place I've ever been in

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<v Speaker 1>my entire life. That's awesome, and I'm I'm glad to

0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:26.160
<v Speaker 1>hear that. Um. You know, you kind of mentioned it

0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.240
<v Speaker 1>earlier where a lot of people were cut out of

0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.800
<v Speaker 1>what they buried. What did your what did your wife barry?

0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Because I feel like that wasn't in there. Yeah, it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that was again going along with my

0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:40.360
<v Speaker 1>addiction and her codependency, she threw in actually a remote control. Uh.

0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.480
<v Speaker 1>She wanted to let go of control, like literally, because

0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the codependence whole thing is they dictate their happiness and

0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.760
<v Speaker 1>their well being on other people's emotion, and she wanted

0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.320
<v Speaker 1>to be able to let go of the controlling factor

0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.520
<v Speaker 1>that she she likes to put on situations to try

0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.600
<v Speaker 1>to get make herself feel better. And it was a

0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.760
<v Speaker 1>very it was a very personal thing and I you know,

0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.520
<v Speaker 1>just to uh to Jen and Frankie's you know, Frankie

0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.720
<v Speaker 1>had a real amazing storyline which I hope hands out,

0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, around you know, the pandemic hits bro and

0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:12.000
<v Speaker 1>this guy's whole life is based around nightlife. And I

0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:15.599
<v Speaker 1>mean he built a a massive business around that and

0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:19.120
<v Speaker 1>then overnight, boom, dude gone. So what does this guy

0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.000
<v Speaker 1>do to pivot? And there was a lot of Again

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say too much because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's gonna come out, but it was like hearing

0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.440
<v Speaker 1>his wife and hearing you know, the transition was was

0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:31.599
<v Speaker 1>very very powerful. Yeah, it was emotional too, man. I

0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:33.640
<v Speaker 1>mean she threw in a clock and you know, wanting

0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:35.880
<v Speaker 1>she threw a clock in and it was you know,

0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to deal with the late nights anymore.

0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.000
<v Speaker 1>It was it was something that was especially knowing them

0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.080
<v Speaker 1>and knowing their family, it was like it hit home. Yeah,

0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:44.880
<v Speaker 1>it's too bad that that wasn't in there. I mean,

0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.320
<v Speaker 1>you could have replaced. I feel like Justin Bobby's with

0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that one because Justin Bobby's but also maybe was the

0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.160
<v Speaker 1>most Justin Bobby thing ever, which was like, I'm just

0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be tied down and I want

0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.120
<v Speaker 1>to continue to travel the world. It's like, dude, you've

0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.440
<v Speaker 1>been living in Mexico this and what do you talking?

0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:05.319
<v Speaker 1>You haven't been tied down? Like I love by the way,

0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.760
<v Speaker 1>he kind of contradict you a little bit. He but

0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.440
<v Speaker 1>he is my favorite person because I think that for

0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.680
<v Speaker 1>as like bonkers as he is, I think he is

0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the most self aware. He's just like I love who

0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I am and I want to continue to keep on

0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:25.360
<v Speaker 1>being me because and I gotta I gotta do. I'll

0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.600
<v Speaker 1>tell you this much, man is this season I got

0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I got very close with Justin out of all people,

0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I love the dude. And you will find out why

0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Justin is the way he is this season. It took

0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:41.040
<v Speaker 1>me fourteen years, and this last season I learned more

0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.720
<v Speaker 1>about Justin than I've known in the last fourteen fifteen

0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.040
<v Speaker 1>years of knowing it. Uh, And it's it's crazy to

0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.400
<v Speaker 1>hear and see what he's experienced in his life because

0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm always like, dude, where does this Jack Sparrow guy

0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:52.680
<v Speaker 1>come from you know what I mean, Like I have

0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:54.720
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good read on like who I can connect

0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.040
<v Speaker 1>with you, like where is this? You know his fly

0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.560
<v Speaker 1>by Night kind of like on his pirate ship and

0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:03.800
<v Speaker 1>in and then you really get a good understanding of like, wow, dude,

0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean it would be nice to again you got

0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:07.560
<v Speaker 1>to connect with somebody to be able to have that

0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, vulnerability with them, and uh, he just blew

0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.000
<v Speaker 1>me away. I mean it was just like wow, man,

0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.800
<v Speaker 1>like you've experienced a lot, ish a lot, and he

0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.680
<v Speaker 1>opened up about it. Do it this year. It's a

0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.120
<v Speaker 1>different side. I think his storyline is gonna be one

0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.440
<v Speaker 1>of the best. Yeah, I believe that, And I know

0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it like condescendingly. He He's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite people to watch on the show just because

0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I could never be you, but I would

0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.360
<v Speaker 1>love to be to be like you, but I could

0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:43.280
<v Speaker 1>never do it because of like taxes and like a mortgage.

0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.960
<v Speaker 1>He is he is probably he is the most self

0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.720
<v Speaker 1>aware of person on the show. I mean he is

0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:52.040
<v Speaker 1>so in tune with uh, and it's almost to a

0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.040
<v Speaker 1>point of like I kind of endy it too, you know,

0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.040
<v Speaker 1>to a degree. He's just so in touch, um and

0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.040
<v Speaker 1>he really knows what he wants, you know, but it's

0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.440
<v Speaker 1>it's see why it's unraveled the way it did. Though. Yeah,

0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.600
<v Speaker 1>well I can't wait for that. Uh, we'll keep on

0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.280
<v Speaker 1>like kind of going through the episode. Um oh, my

0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.520
<v Speaker 1>my favorite thing was was Spencer's cape that he was wearing,

0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and like, was he hiding the chicken pot pie in

0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the cape the entire time where they're multiple chicken pot pies?

0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Where did that come from? Dude? I mean the best

0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.440
<v Speaker 1>part is even after that, you know, after it cut,

0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:25.040
<v Speaker 1>after he took a bite and put it back in there,

0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.720
<v Speaker 1>he went back in again another bite. So they left

0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:32.560
<v Speaker 1>that part out. Dude, But he loves those chicken pot pies. Man. Yeah,

0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.480
<v Speaker 1>say what you want about Spencer. The kid knows how

0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.280
<v Speaker 1>to make some reality TV. I'll give him that. Um okay.

0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:41.560
<v Speaker 1>So we had to go over to Caitlin and Brody

0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:45.720
<v Speaker 1>hanging out at their house. There were just some things

0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:49.120
<v Speaker 1>that I just thought was kind of interesting. They wouldn't mention,

0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Like the she who shall not be named. Everyone knows

0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.080
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about Miley Cyrus, but they're not. They don't

0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:00.240
<v Speaker 1>want to say it, but okay, I get it. My

0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.920
<v Speaker 1>favorite thing you like, you don't you like how her

0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:07.159
<v Speaker 1>song came on right after? Really like I was like,

0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.439
<v Speaker 1>this is beautiful. And also you have to remember I

0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.520
<v Speaker 1>do another show with Miley's sister, So I'm just sitting

0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.200
<v Speaker 1>there being like, can't wait to talk to Brandy about

0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:19.159
<v Speaker 1>this one. This is gonna be great. Ye. So my

0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:20.760
<v Speaker 1>favorite part of that, and I don't know if I

0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.639
<v Speaker 1>have anything to like, any opinion about it, just my

0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.080
<v Speaker 1>favorite part where he was like, I was just so

0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.320
<v Speaker 1>cut off guard by the lesbian stuff and you're like, wait,

0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.040
<v Speaker 1>hold on. The whole dialogue last year from what I remember,

0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.760
<v Speaker 1>was that you guys were swingers, which I assume means

0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.879
<v Speaker 1>that there was multiple women involved in the bed, Like

0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.000
<v Speaker 1>so what do you what are you talking about right now?

0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.600
<v Speaker 1>That just was my takeaway, right No, I mean, I

0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:46.919
<v Speaker 1>think it was kind of a shock to all of us,

0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.200
<v Speaker 1>and I think Brodie even kind of addressed that, Like,

0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think actually Caitlin addressed that, you know,

0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.080
<v Speaker 1>and and I don't know if you caught that. She's

0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, we kind of experimented in that other

0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.240
<v Speaker 1>area and he's like, yeah, but I didn't know this

0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.840
<v Speaker 1>whole other things. It was, it was a little it

0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:03.280
<v Speaker 1>was it was shocking to us, and it kind of

0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.520
<v Speaker 1>came more it was it was shocking to us that

0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.399
<v Speaker 1>it was a shock to him. Yeah, I do feel bad.

0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel for Caitlin because you know, in that scene,

0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.919
<v Speaker 1>she's like, I wish that you kind of had like

0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.399
<v Speaker 1>reset your life when we were together, so we were

0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:20.080
<v Speaker 1>able to have these conversations, these kind of lucid, real

0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:23.760
<v Speaker 1>honest conversations back then things might have been different. And

0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the whole time, I just kept thinking, is she that

0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.800
<v Speaker 1>woman who still really wants to be with him? Like

0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.440
<v Speaker 1>it's I was wondering it seems like he has definitely

0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:37.720
<v Speaker 1>moved on, uh audrina um, but like it seems like

0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.440
<v Speaker 1>she kind of, I don't know, still pines for that.

0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you get that viber No, No, I mean it did.

0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:47.200
<v Speaker 1>It was Look, it was it was very like I'm

0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.240
<v Speaker 1>on the same page you are. I mean to see

0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:51.919
<v Speaker 1>her state what she stated, and the fact that they

0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.640
<v Speaker 1>were able to have these very very raw and transparent

0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:58.480
<v Speaker 1>conversations in a in a very sober environment, and it's

0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, from her from the a she made it,

0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:02.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, seemin sound is that they weren't able to

0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.960
<v Speaker 1>really ever have these conversations until now, because Brody really

0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.040
<v Speaker 1>had a cool journey with you know, uh, getting rid

0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.359
<v Speaker 1>of alcohol and you've got to see a really great

0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.800
<v Speaker 1>side to this guy in a very a very ro

0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Rob Brody this year, which is another cool factor and

0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.200
<v Speaker 1>facet to the show. But I mean, I I felt

0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:20.639
<v Speaker 1>for Caitlin because it was almost kind of like, this

0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:22.679
<v Speaker 1>is what she was longing for even if they didn't

0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:24.560
<v Speaker 1>even if they didn't make it, you know, it was

0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.240
<v Speaker 1>just more of being able to have that closure in

0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:30.359
<v Speaker 1>the context of the relationship, if that makes sense, you know,

0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:34.320
<v Speaker 1>And uh, it was you know, I felt bad for her. Yeah,

0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.280
<v Speaker 1>how did too? I mean, and I think that that

0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.560
<v Speaker 1>it's probably how the entire audience felt about at least

0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.199
<v Speaker 1>that's how I feel like it was edited to towards that.

0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I will say this, though Brody does look really good.

0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.840
<v Speaker 1>It's very interesting when you see someone who cleans themselves

0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.040
<v Speaker 1>their act up a little bit and like how that

0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:53.520
<v Speaker 1>looks on their face. Uh he I mean, he looks

0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:58.840
<v Speaker 1>thinner and healthier and um, anyways, weird side plot, but

0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:02.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if dude look no, it's it's it's

0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.120
<v Speaker 1>it's but it's important to talk about because I think

0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:06.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing with him is I mean physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually.

0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean Brodie, Brodie was uh, you know when he

0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.400
<v Speaker 1>was on this journey of of you know, self discovery.

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he is it. It showed in all areas,

0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, not just not only physically, but like I said,

0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.679
<v Speaker 1>mentally emotionally. I mean he uh you could see the

0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:27.359
<v Speaker 1>change and he was you doing well? You know. The

0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:31.320
<v Speaker 1>next two scenes I thought, are they were silly because

0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:35.080
<v Speaker 1>they aren't to me, unrealistic, But maybe I'm wrong. The

0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.280
<v Speaker 1>next scene was that, like Audrina goes over to Heidi

0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:40.720
<v Speaker 1>so like get ready for a date, which I don't

0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:42.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like anyone does that. They're not like I'm going

0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:44.880
<v Speaker 1>on a blind date and I'm coming over and I'm

0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.159
<v Speaker 1>gonna show you some outfits and we're gonna have him champaign.

0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's how that works. I mean, I

0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.879
<v Speaker 1>think anything's possible with Heidi and Spencer, you know, I

0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:55.160
<v Speaker 1>mean how they do an introduction with somebody. I mean,

0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.919
<v Speaker 1>it's it seems a little out of context, but I

0:20:57.920 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 1>mean the fact that they were the ones setting up

0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the the blind date. Uh, I mean, I don't know, dude,

0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean it, I wouldn't be going over my buddy's house. Uh,

0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, to to to get ready and talk about it.

0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe it's a girl thing, Yeah, maybe so,

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and then maybe it's a guy thing. The next scene

0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:18.359
<v Speaker 1>is Brodie, Brandon and Justin painting Brodie's wall, which, by

0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:21.440
<v Speaker 1>the way, the biggest asshole move ever. If you ever

0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.320
<v Speaker 1>asked me to come over and paint at your house,

0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:29.200
<v Speaker 1>we are no longer friends. This is over right right there.

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean that was I was. I thought, you know,

0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:35.760
<v Speaker 1>what's funny is I get that? But I actually thought

0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that was a good scene. I mean, you gotta see

0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Brandon in a very I mean I died laughing at

0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Brandon said, I've never picked up a paint roller or

0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I've never painted a wall, which was which was great.

0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 1>But I mean I thought that was a good scene

0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.359
<v Speaker 1>for Brandon to be able to kind of transition it

0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:51.760
<v Speaker 1>in into that relationship that he was, you know, getting

0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:55.160
<v Speaker 1>committed to. But uh, paint in the garage was definitely,

0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:58.280
<v Speaker 1>uh something I didn't see coming. Yeah. Two things, Brandon

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.480
<v Speaker 1>saying he never has painted anything his life and in

0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:03.120
<v Speaker 1>his next scene where he sets up the the like

0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:06.120
<v Speaker 1>really cool dates on top of the mountain. Uh, he's

0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:09.719
<v Speaker 1>wearing pants that have paint, like like artistic paint like

0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:13.560
<v Speaker 1>on it, you know. Or I was like, what's okay?

0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:16.720
<v Speaker 1>But anyways, I do love that he like bore his

0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.600
<v Speaker 1>soul about the love of his life and how he

0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:21.919
<v Speaker 1>really wants to like be a better man and settle

0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:25.280
<v Speaker 1>down to the one guy who I feel like can't

0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:28.840
<v Speaker 1>relate to that at all, in Justin Bobby. Justin Bobby

0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:32.800
<v Speaker 1>is just like huh huh, yeah, okay, I don't know, man, cool.

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:37.119
<v Speaker 1>But I think it goes back to that awareness that

0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Justin's got right. He's a good listener, you know, for

0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 1>for for Ja get he was looking for some of

0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:46.200
<v Speaker 1>those words of wisdom from Justin. Yeah exactly. Uh but no,

0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I I did. I like that scene. But it's like

0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.200
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of similar to like when your friends ask

0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you to help them move and you're like, oh, dude, really,

0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean I realized we need things to like set

0:22:57.080 --> 0:23:00.720
<v Speaker 1>up things, but I'd be like, we're painting. Why can't

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.040
<v Speaker 1>we do what Spencer and Heidi do, which is just

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 1>like get champagne and we just hang out. That seems

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:10.679
<v Speaker 1>that seems more of my speed. Guys, right right, I

0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.880
<v Speaker 1>did I and I think that you gotta gotta lace

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.119
<v Speaker 1>some of that stuff up for it to get some

0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 1>of that juicy content. I get it. Um. So going

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>on to the next part of the show, this is

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:26.560
<v Speaker 1>where I listen, I understand, we have to we have

0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:29.879
<v Speaker 1>to involve like you know, third parties and people that

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:33.320
<v Speaker 1>haven't been a part of the show. But it's where, um,

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 1>when you have never done a reality show, it shows

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:42.879
<v Speaker 1>on TV really really unfortunately poorly. And that's Audrina going

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>on this date with Rod Stewart's kid or something. Because

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.639
<v Speaker 1>the poor guy was shaken in the wind like a

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>fucking leaf. Dude. I felt really really you could tell

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:57.200
<v Speaker 1>he was just so scared. It was it was a

0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 1>it was an awkward scene. I mean, I I again,

0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:03.080
<v Speaker 1>is knowing the guy, he's actually very very funny, he's

0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:07.439
<v Speaker 1>very like outlandish and stuff. But from your perspective, what

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:09.359
<v Speaker 1>was your take as if you're not, you know, not

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:13.639
<v Speaker 1>knowing him in the context of what we do. I'm curious. Well,

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:17.560
<v Speaker 1>so I looked at it from the complete different view

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>because now I look at things through production and I

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 1>could see what the camera guy was doing and they

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I could see that they kind of cut away from

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 1>it because they didn't really want to celebrate it a lot.

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 1>But the camera guy kept trying to focus in on

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 1>him like pouring glass and holding pouring water and like

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:34.399
<v Speaker 1>holding the glass because you could see it was really

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 1>shaking in his hand, and I'm sure the camera guy

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>thought like, oh my god, this is great. But then

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure like in posts, they were like, we can't

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 1>just drag Rod Stewart's kid like this, so like we

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>got to cut it a little bit. But I thought

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.439
<v Speaker 1>he did a good like I thought it was it

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>was because I think that they're both kind of dorky, uh, Like,

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I think a Drina is a really sweet, really sweet woman,

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>but I think she is kind of a nerd, and

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that guy's kind of a nerd. And then

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:02.439
<v Speaker 1>they kind of nerd it out together and it actually

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>ended up being really cute. But it was it was

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.360
<v Speaker 1>very like on The Bachelor. What would have happened there

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.359
<v Speaker 1>that like I wish that MTV would have would have

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 1>really really kind of like embraced. Was that that's when

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the when they would play the awkward music and you know,

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 1>it's like it makes it so much worse too, you know,

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 1>like the carnival music, we're just like, uh, poor guy

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:31.399
<v Speaker 1>or the or the crickets. Yeah yeah, now, and that

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:35.439
<v Speaker 1>it's he's another piece of the show that he is.

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>He's a character, dude, He's he's a trip. It's it's

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 1>fun to watch him as the season goes on. Yeah,

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:45.919
<v Speaker 1>like I saw so I saw like in the like

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:48.159
<v Speaker 1>the teaser for next episode he's back and he like

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 1>goes in for a kiss and that seems awkward but

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>like just maybe like very apropos for like their relationship. Anyways. Yeah,

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm excited for him to blossom. And I really hope,

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 1>like Rod Stewart, somehow it's brought into the show. I

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 1>know you can't say anything, but I would really I'd

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 1>really like that. And then I do hope that MTV

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:10.239
<v Speaker 1>plays like Maggie May one episode and that would just

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>really be beautiful. All right, Hey, anything's possible, man. Um.

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I really like so Brandon was another one of those

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>guys from season one of OF or at least last

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 1>season UM the reboot that I was like confused by.

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you're not part of the original cast.

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 1>It seems like kind of a name you're throwing in

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>there to get people excited about the show, and this

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:39.679
<v Speaker 1>opens doors for Pam and Tommy to somehow get on,

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>which I get from like a producer standpoint. But um,

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>having Brandon his character arc is starting to like lure

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 1>me in. And I really did like what he did

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:53.919
<v Speaker 1>last night. I thought it was really cute and it

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>seemed really authentic. My only thought is, like him worrying

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:00.040
<v Speaker 1>about money so much and like bearing the hunter to

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 1>all our bill and having a lot of money and

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>now not having a lot of money. It's like, hey, bro, dude,

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.159
<v Speaker 1>just sell the Porsche or the range Rover, Like just

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>make a decision and then that's some money right there.

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>That's that was my thought, right. Yeah. No, I mean, look,

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I'll say this, I mean Brandon. I've got to know

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Brandon a lot over this. He's actually one of the

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.919
<v Speaker 1>guys that got the closest with over the show. I

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 1>think it's it's understanding keeping in mind he is still

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>really young. But also, you know, I look at it

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:26.439
<v Speaker 1>from I give him a lot of respect. I mean

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>the guy that's you know, lives a life and recovery

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>and and having the parents that he did, who are icons,

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, to kind of still have the stability that

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>he does is very respectable. I mean there you know,

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:38.160
<v Speaker 1>there's moments of Brandon where it's like, come on, bro

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>but it's also when you kind of look back at

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>where he's at and what he's been able to accomplish,

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 1>it's it's, uh, it's pretty it's it's pretty incredible, you know.

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and that's and I mean him like, he's

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 1>probably one of my favorite dudes on the show. Uh

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 1>we've got we we golf a time together. Um, and

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's he's got a heart of gold. And

0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I think he's just still in he's still in the

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>discovery phase. You I mean, he's young, and I think

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>bringing him on, whereas he was friends with Brody, his

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>friends with some of the other cast, but I think

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>it was trying to bring on like a younger face

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>to kind of get some of the old elements of

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.399
<v Speaker 1>the show back. Um. You know, I I see what

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you're saying from the initial piece, but I think that

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 1>he is uh, I think he's he's one of the

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 1>breakout guys. I think he's gonna you know, he's really

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a great storyline this year. Yeah, I'm excited.

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>And uh, it was the day was really really cute,

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Like the whole thing. It was either it was either

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna kidnap you, um and you're not safe, or

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>like this is gonna be really really cute and like

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the blindfold is a good thing. But you know, he's

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>a really like like a romantic like I know he

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>said it multiple times, but dude, like he was, He's

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>in love with this chick like fully, like he's fully committed.

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>And I mean you can see, you know, even when

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>they I mean there's obviously abouts this on and off

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>camera when they had you know, their moments, and it

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>really messed him up, you know. So, uh, is his

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>heart in the right place? Yeah? I like him a lot. Um.

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>And then kind of the last scene is Heidi and

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Spencer having this baby talk, which um, so like it's

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>just hilarious to me because it's such good like comic

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>relief stuff of like him eating the pot pie thing

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 1>like completely like has not given up the pot pie

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>a situation. He's spilling it all over himself and then

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Heidi like getting all dolled up and he's just like

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 1>all right, here we go. And here's the thing that

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 1>like was I can't blame saying this, but was relatable

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 1>in my relationship. Um that they were doing last night.

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>She was having a full on breakdown and he was

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>just sitting there staring at her, and like I now

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>know from being in trouble for this um that like

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>when that happens, like he needed to like embrace her

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>and be like, babe, it's gonna be okay, and like yes,

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have her kid and like you know, like

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>make her feel better. And he's just sitting there in

0:29:56.880 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>the pop pie being like uh huh, yeah, okay, No,

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean yes, And I've learned that first chance, especially

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>with Ashley being being pregnant. I mean, dude, it's one

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>thing to to get pregnant, but also the hormones and

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>stuff are so real when a girl is pregnant, and yes,

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>to be able to embrace and support and show the

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>love and compassion is is it's a must. Yeah. I

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>guess if he did like embracer and like calmer nerves

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>and uh and make her feel better, it would be

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>at a character and then it would have been in

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>a confusing scenes. Yeah. Actually, like really tracked perfectly. But

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 1>it was just kind of like a funny. It was

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>a really nice it was I just I look at

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>it through like creating this show. It was a really

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>nice bow because you opened with this pop pie thing

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and then you have the call back at the end,

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and then it's just like here we go going forward,

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>and obviously the preview of what's to come, UM, Kristen's back,

0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 1>which I think everyone is really excited about. UM, it

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>looks like Brody and Audrina hook up again, I guess,

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and then there's obviously going to be drama with Brody

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>and Um and Caitlin. What are you the most excited about,

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>UM for this season going forward? Obviously you can't say

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>too much, but vaguely, what are you pumped for? Uh?

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to repeat myself for sound redundant,

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>but I think I'm really excited for people to get

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 1>to know everybody at a different level than they did

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>this last season that we had. Uh, You're gonna see

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody goes through their own trials and tribulations.

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Obviously the whole world was in a very weird place

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>when we were shooting this show. You're gonna see a

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of you know, you're gonna see a lot of

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>um setbacks that turn into comebacks. You're gonna see a

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of you know, you're gonna see a lot of

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>real raw motion come out from you know, each other individuals.

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's there's parts, uh that were there's very

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>there's very hurtful parts of part process of the show,

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>like that ror that we walked through personally, um, you know,

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and so you're gonna get to experience that. And I

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>think it's it's it's gonna bring people back in an

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>element where you're gonna be able to identify with one

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>one form or another to the cast. And I think

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna really carry it on versus kind of it

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody being thrown together, let's kind of see where we fit.

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Everybody really takes lane and everybody walks through something differently

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>this year, you know. And I think that's what's gonna

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>be the real, the real catch here, especially as we

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>are you know, actually in this this pandemic or however

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you want to look at it. I think it's a

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of people how to make some major changes in

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>their lives. Uh, speaking of making changes in your life,

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>and I could be wrong. But I feel like on

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>some teaser I watched, there is some hint or some

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>allegation that Spencer says that you relaxed, but you didn't.

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Is that Did I see that? Right? Or Am I

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>making that up? No? You did? You did see that.

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>You did see that, And and I will say this again,

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>is how it plays out is uh, is very very interesting,

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially having somebody last sees and that walk

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>through everything that I went through, Heidi, who knows my

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>whole history and everything that I've experienced over the course

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>of time. I mean I lived with Heidi back in

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the day, you know when when back in the day

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>with Lauren and stuff, and she knew all my trials

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and tribulations, and uh, you know, I got very open

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 1>with with with Spencer over last season about what I

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 1>went through and to have the audacity to you know,

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.479
<v Speaker 1>pull those things out. It was it was just very

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>hurtful and very disrespectful. And one thing I got thick skin, dude,

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I've lived through a lot. I mean, it's it takes

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot for you to piss me off. I mean,

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of stuff rolls off my shoulders. But

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>when you come to my family or my sobriety. Those

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 1>are two lines you don't cross, uh. And it's something

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 1>that I hold very near and dear to my heart.

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>My addiction isn't like I you know, I drink here

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and I mean this stuff it takes ahold of my

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 1>life and it brings me to suicide. It brings me

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't just lose myself, dude, I lose

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>everything around me. I lose my friends, I lose my family,

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>like I've seen it happen before. And it's it's it's

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:01.719
<v Speaker 1>it's the it is the crux of of of the

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>life I live today and we're coming it's it's it's

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>imperative to the to to me living is my sobriety.

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>And so it's something I take a lot a lot

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 1>of pride in um and and I think a lot

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>of people should. I think it's just it was the

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 1>timing of it. It just couldn't be worse. I mean,

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>look at look at is has increased with suicides with overdose.

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean that this the the timing too, was was

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.959
<v Speaker 1>horrible to bring up stuff around people's sobriety and such

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 1>a devastating time. This is the only disease that has

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>been on a steady incline, with the amount of deaths

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>increasing by every year with a steady decline of the

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.439
<v Speaker 1>amount of success. This is the leading cause of death

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 1>in America for fit year old individuals and younger. I mean,

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 1>when you look at that and you have you just

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 1>want to you want to clown with something like that.

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>It's bullshit, you know what I mean, And you want

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>to I mean, and when it comes to it's like

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 1>making fun of somebody with cancer, you know, And that's

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not a it's not okay, it's not acceptable

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's not cool. Um. And and you'll see that

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 1>we don't take that lightly. Well, I'm glad to hear that.

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>And I totally agree with you, you know, I think

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that as I kind of try to break down the

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Heidi and Spencer of it all, you know, for the

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>truth of the matter is it's hard to be filled.

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:13.240
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to be kind of entrenched in the drama

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 1>when you're kind of married with a kid and like

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>everything is kind of normal. And it seems like now

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>he still wants to be the pot stir, but he's

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 1>not really in the soup anymore. Um. And it's one

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 1>thing to be like I heard you made out with Brody.

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 1>It's a whole another thing to say something like that

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 1>to you. And in his mind he might think of

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:38.799
<v Speaker 1>those things as as parallel, but um, obviously I think

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.240
<v Speaker 1>for him it's for him, but also for the audience especially,

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>everyone needs to know that those things are not parallel.

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.760
<v Speaker 1>They are completely different and they need to be treated

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 1>differently as such. So I'm glad to hear that at

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>least you and I would and I would give validation

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>to that for sure. And what you're saying I had

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>to percent agree with. But the fact is, keep in

0:35:56.880 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>mind I've had very open and transparent conversations with him

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 1>on m or last season that came out to know

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>what I struggled with, you know what I mean. So

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like there and I was very real with them,

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So he knows, you know,

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>what I really go through and where where my addiction

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>takes me. Uh. So it's like, yeah, not only are

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 1>those not you know, even in the same lines or

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:20.280
<v Speaker 1>even in the same atmosphere. Dude. Uh, it's the fact

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>that he also knew what he knew, uh to say

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.760
<v Speaker 1>those things. It's just it's digging where it's it's below

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 1>the belt stuff. Yeah. Well, man, I love talking with

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 1>you because of your honesty, your vulnerability. And then also,

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 1>like I said earlier that you you know, you talked

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>to talk, but you also walk the walk and um,

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.919
<v Speaker 1>you work with a lot of programs trying to help this.

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, this this epidemic that's happening in our society.

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.399
<v Speaker 1>So tell everyone out there, um, the work that you're

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 1>doing and how you can help them and they can

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 1>help themselves. Yeah. So one of the main things I'm

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:56.840
<v Speaker 1>really focusing on is I mean I've served on the

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 1>board for Los Angeles Mission. Still I am the coach

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>here now. The reds Onward Foundation, what we have created

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 1>the most safe and trust of resource for anybody that

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 1>is struggling with mental health, substance abuse, or trauma. It's

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 1>a place that you can come and get educated on

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 1>how do you know if you struggle with substance abuse,

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 1>how do you know you struggle with trauma? How do

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>you know you struggle with mental health? Uh, to get

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you educated. And then we also provide cash scholarships. We've

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>given away over a million dollars in scholarships in the

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 1>last year. Uh. We have three clients that have currently

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Speaker 1>just received scholarships right now that are in treatment getting help,

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:30.720
<v Speaker 1>and we are a place for you to come to. UH.

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>You know too that there's no judgment, it's there's no shame,

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 1>no guilt, uh, and to try to get you on

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the right track. You know, we're really there for people

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that don't have the means to get the help that

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>they need, and we try to help foster that. UM.

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>We have many amazing events going on, we have speaking engagements, seminars,

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 1>uh and really just trying to be a resource and

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the tool for people because there's so much negative connotation

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 1>with the treatment industry. And look, treatment does work and

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.399
<v Speaker 1>recovery as possible, but it's very important that you get

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.839
<v Speaker 1>properly educated and get to a place that is really

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>to foster the needs for you. UM. There is no

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 1>one stop shop, there's no cookie cutter. This is very

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 1>very multifaceted disease. UH. So we we pride ourselves on

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>just being being the go to help help source when

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 1>you're struggling. And UH I utilized my platform on a

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 1>daily uh to try to inspire and give people hope

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 1>that there's a better way and then the main thing

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:23.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm really passionate about right now is Ashley n Eyes

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Jaws Diaries that we just kicked off the second season of.

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 1>So last year we started Jaws, which is really encompassing

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 1>our storyline last season talking about recovery, codependency. So many

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>people are asking us questions, you know, on a daily like, hey,

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>my husband struggling, my wife, my daughter, you know, what

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>do we do? And we couldn't get back to all

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 1>these people, so we said, hey, let's do a show

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 1>that's really gonna walk through on a weekly basis of

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 1>what both of us go through from the alcoholic and

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the codependent until I hit a year once one year

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>of sobriety, and I ended up getting a year of

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:54.879
<v Speaker 1>sobriety through that show. And now we're going to talk

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 1>more about, you know, the continuation of recovery. So we

0:38:57.800 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>went through the first stages of it. Now we're in

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.839
<v Speaker 1>the second stag just so ash and I really share

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>our journey and we have professionals coming on this year

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to help us with situations that we run into, and uh,

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>it's something that we're just really really passionate about, and uh,

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.479
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's fun. We love doing it. So people

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>want to connect where they go Instagram Jason Waller, uh,

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, or or check us out on our our

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>YouTube show It's Jaws Diaries, which is Jason and Ashley

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Waller UM or read Songbird UH foundation dot org is

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>if you guys are needing to help, check us out

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>there and we'd be happy to try to put you

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 1>on the right track. Jason, Man, I love you do.

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>It's always fun talking with you. UM. Listen, everyone out there.

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>If you are struggling, you know, reach out, go go

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 1>follow Jason and um and yeah, you know, reach out

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 1>for help. I love you on the show man. I

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>do hope there's more of you because I do think

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:50.680
<v Speaker 1>you're the most the most compelling character on this whole thing. Uh.

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 1>So I hope there's a lot more of your fingers

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 1>crossed for that. Uh continued success. And let's go play golf, dude.

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm an avid golf or I'll play golf with

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you guys. Let's go play, man, I'll shoot you a text.

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's set something up here. I'm always out there and

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 1>play Sherwood all the time. Or if you want to

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>come down here, we play Big Canyon or Pelican or something.

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>And you know we gotta get to get the girls

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 1>together too. We gotta just hang out your dinner or something. Absolutely,

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready man, now that we're all vaxed and relax,

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>let's do it. Jason Waller, you are the man obviously

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 1>the Hills Wednesday Night MTV. Um, keep it up, man,

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 1>it's keep in touch. Thanks well, appreciate it, man, have

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a great day. Freaking love Jason Wallery. That guy is awesome.

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>He's so real. He's let me just vent about the

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:36.399
<v Speaker 1>show and like gave his honest opinion. Um, and then

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>all the work he's doing. It's just it's amazing. That

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 1>dude freaking rocks man. And I swear to god, I'm

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna write a very strongly worded email to Viacom if

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>they don't give them some more airtime, because I need

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 1>some more of that guy on my Wednesday Nights on

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:52.760
<v Speaker 1>the Hills. All right, hey, we got a nice little

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 1>surprise for you. We're gonna take a quick break and

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 1>when we come back, what I consider the star of

0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>CS t Key will be on the Hills cast. I'm

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:02.399
<v Speaker 1>telling you, guys, you do not want to miss this

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 1>stick around. All right, back on Hills cast very excited

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 1>to see a star from another reality show from MTV.

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 1>It's Ah, Juliette, porter from c S two key. How

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 1>are you doing good? Thanks for having me. I'm pumped

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:33.799
<v Speaker 1>to have you on. Um, I've obviously seen you on

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 1>my television a lot, and we have a weird connection.

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know it. I actually think

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I do know it. Um, were you on JoJo's season?

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I was okay, I'm right, I was like, oh, write one. Um,

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 1>so you know Robbie. I do know Robbie. I spent

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time with him, and UM, I remember,

0:41:57.040 --> 0:41:58.959
<v Speaker 1>I guess it was a couple of years ago where

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I was. I was working for Good Morning America doing

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 1>a segment for them, and I would walk out of

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 1>g m A every day and I'd see his stupid

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>face on like all the big billboards next to you

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>with the Siesta Key logo, and I remember texting being

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 1>like you asshole. So anyways, you dated him on the show, right,

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 1>How was that experience? It was good? Um? It was

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 1>like it was so it was a lot in a

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:30.319
<v Speaker 1>very short period of time. I mean we dated for like,

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, two months maybe and we went to

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Greece within like the first two weeks of our relationship.

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it was it was interesting and then

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I I was like, all right, time to get back

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 1>to reality, and it just it just didn't work out,

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 1>just didn't work out. Well. I've heard that story a

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 1>lot with Robbie, but UM, listen, I'm glad you guys

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 1>had fun while lasted. Season four of Siesta Key back

0:42:56.360 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 1>on MTV. UM, are you excited about this season? Are

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 1>you nervous? Like what are your feelings about it going in? Um,

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm always I'm excited and nervous pretty much

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:13.399
<v Speaker 1>every season. I mean you can relate, like being on

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 1>TVs kind of scary, especially when it's you and you're

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>not playing a part, you know. So I'm excited this

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:25.240
<v Speaker 1>season's the seasons very different from the last seasons. Um,

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:27.919
<v Speaker 1>but we still have a lot of drama and it's

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 1>always uncomfortable to open up that way, but I'm getting

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 1>used to it. This is like my this is my

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>fourth season, but it's really more like seven seasons because

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 1>we do like half seasons. So, UM, you know, I

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I just I let it, I just let it happen.

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I just let myself feel that anxiety and run with it.

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 1>How does your family deal with all of it? Because

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>I remember when I, uh, when I was on that

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 1>side of it, the anxiety that like my mother had

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 1>going into seasons was was was pretty um it was

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:03.320
<v Speaker 1>pretty palpable. Like how are you? How is your family

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 1>dealing with all this? Um at this point, they're used

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 1>to it, but I remember when I first started. My

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:12.399
<v Speaker 1>mom was like, I don't think you're built for this.

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:15.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you can you know, handle this kind

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:17.919
<v Speaker 1>of lifestyle. And my dad was like, do it. Why

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 1>not see what happens, just to be a huge opportunity,

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.319
<v Speaker 1>which of course it was, and I'm very thankful, but

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 1>um yeah, they I kind of tell them not to watch,

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 1>but I know they're going to do it anyway. My

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend's family watches all the time, and I'll walk

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 1>in and they're watching it. I'm like, oh, gotta go

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:36.800
<v Speaker 1>buy Yeah, Like, hey, maybe don't watch the next scene

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll be good. Just don't worry about that.

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's all get a drink or something. Um yeah, I know,

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:46.840
<v Speaker 1>especially like my friend my boyfriend's family, they're like watching

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 1>me make out with their son. I'm like this is uncomfortable.

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Um so I guess that kind of the big storyline. Um,

0:44:56.160 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 1>is is your feud with Kelsey? Mm hmm, how real

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 1>is this? It's it's completely real. I don't do the

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 1>fake I don't. I think that's I just don't like

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:14.440
<v Speaker 1>being fake, and I also am not good at it.

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm like a horrible liar anyway. Um so it's completely real.

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Her and I we lived together, and you know, she

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:25.760
<v Speaker 1>really did last year she took my boyfriend to lunch,

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 1>told him I'm a gold digger, told him I don't

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 1>really care about him. I'm still in love with my ex.

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, the whole nine yards that really happened. And

0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:38.320
<v Speaker 1>then from there, you know, we both really started bikini

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 1>lines and mine's called jumped the label subtle Plug check

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 1>it out on Instagram, and um you know that was

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:49.360
<v Speaker 1>interesting for us because we were best friends and now

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:51.799
<v Speaker 1>we're sort of in competition because we're in the same

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're on the same television show. So you

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 1>could see how our fans are going to, you know,

0:45:57.600 --> 0:45:59.959
<v Speaker 1>maybe pick one or the other or compare the two,

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 1>and it just it caused so much tension and a

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of stuff happens in season four,

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, our food is definitely real. Though, well you

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 1>just said a lot of stuff has happened since season four. Um,

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 1>so then what are we in for? Like, what are

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 1>we going to see? And what this is my other?

0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 1>What is my other question for you? Because you're not

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:23.839
<v Speaker 1>in edit bage, you're not seeing how this is all

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 1>being shopped together, but you have a you have sense

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:27.800
<v Speaker 1>and a feeling of what the show is going to

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 1>look like and who the audience is gonna love and

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:33.759
<v Speaker 1>who's the audience is gonna hate. Uh do you think

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:37.839
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna take your side or hers? So it's really

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.640
<v Speaker 1>difficult because in the past, when I do things wrong,

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 1>I am like, oh God, everyone's gonna hate me. Everyone's

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna think I'm a monster. And people tend to take

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 1>my side because when I make mistakes, I come from

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 1>a place of realness and you know, it's because I'm

0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:01.239
<v Speaker 1>very hurt. So it's not like just do things and

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:03.959
<v Speaker 1>with malicious intent. So I think a lot of times

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 1>people kind of see where I'm coming from. And although

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily make the right decisions. Um, they're apparently

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:14.239
<v Speaker 1>they're very valid to some people. And I mean I

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 1>obviously think some of my decisions are valid. Um, sometimes

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:20.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely wrong. But I think what's cool about the

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.799
<v Speaker 1>show is, especially when you're real like me, I try

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to be completely authentically myself. People see that, and you

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 1>know they have empathy for that. So um, I mean,

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know when it comes between Kelsey and I,

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 1>people are definitely gonna pick sides. But all I can

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 1>do is just like it's already been filmed. So like

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 1>you said, I don't get to see the edits unless

0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:46.319
<v Speaker 1>I like cry and like force them to show me,

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 1>which is like it's happened before, it's definitely happened. I've

0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 1>gotten to quit. I said, if you don't show me

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 1>this scene, I will literally never film a scene again.

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:58.880
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, oh fine, and that's like not that's

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably gonna in trouble for saying that or whatever. Well,

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:03.239
<v Speaker 1>now the same thing is that it's the same for

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor, Like if you freak out, they'll be like,

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:08.920
<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll let you see it. Um, But whatever, UM,

0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I do think I think that's I think that's funny

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 1>because it's true. Um in terms of like the rest

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 1>of the show, Like what can people expect, like, what,

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:20.759
<v Speaker 1>what are you excited for people to see on c um.

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited for people to see my my journey with

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 1>starting my own business and you know how I kind

0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 1>of transform from being like the young immature girl who

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>just graduated college into becoming an adult. Um me finally

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>having a good boyfriend because I've had some shitty ones

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:46.799
<v Speaker 1>in the past, and we yeah, um, we ultimately go

0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 1>to an island to get away from, you know, Corona,

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's just safer and so we're all together. So

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:57.839
<v Speaker 1>that's going to cause a lot of turmoil and a

0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff goes down when we're all stuff on

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 1>an island in the middle of the Grenadines together. So

0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:07.279
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be really crazy to see. And I think

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:10.440
<v Speaker 1>that's where like a lot of stuff happens, like the

0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 1>majority of all of our craziness really happens on that island.

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 1>So I'm excited for people to see that. I'm also nervous,

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's going to be really entertaining, very cool. Last question,

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:25.400
<v Speaker 1>who's got the better swimsuit line? And why I do

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 1>not want to be the type of girl that's gonna

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:31.279
<v Speaker 1>put others down. But obviously the answers me, kidding, but

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>why is your I have a fiancee who wears bikinis

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 1>when we go out. Why why should she I want

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you to pitch this to me? Why should she choose

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:43.719
<v Speaker 1>your bikini? Oh? My god. First of all, I love

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>your fiancee. UM, So my bikinis are sustainable. We recycle

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 1>up cycle, which means we use um fabrics from other

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 1>bikini lines that are kind of wasting them. We want

0:49:57.120 --> 0:50:00.000
<v Speaker 1>to have a positive impact on the environment. They're also

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:04.360
<v Speaker 1>a made in Bali and all of our manufacturers are

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 1>women mostly mostly most of them are UM and you know,

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 1>they're amazing designs. And I've put a lot of hard

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 1>work and effort into it, so I hope she likes it.

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I like it. So where where do people go to

0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:20.720
<v Speaker 1>pick up obviously the better of the two swimsuit lines?

0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:23.920
<v Speaker 1>It's called Jump the label j MP the label on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram and yeah, you can follow if you follow me

0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and Juliette Porter, you'll find it from there. So he

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:35.440
<v Speaker 1>has the key is back Wednesdays, UM on MTV. Juliet,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for being on the show. It's

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:39.680
<v Speaker 1>been wonderful catching up with you. And I will say

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:42.440
<v Speaker 1>this I've been I've done more reality TV shows than

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:46.399
<v Speaker 1>than you have, and You've got it right. People who

0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 1>are honest and are real and authentic always look good

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 1>because people can relate to real and honest and authentic.

0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:58.719
<v Speaker 1>People that look fake look like liars, and people can't

0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:00.759
<v Speaker 1>relate to that, And that's why they always look like

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 1>assholes because they are. So you keep doing what you're doing. Awesome.

0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for having me. Yeah see you, dude, Bhi.

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