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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, it's no Battle Brown, Battle Brown, Battle

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Speaker 1: Brown Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, here we go another episode of the Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 2: As you saw in the notification, our guest today, Trick Williams,

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Speaker 2: joins the show.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: Super excited to have this guy back on the show.

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Speaker 2: We talked to him not too long ago when he

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Speaker 2: was still the Trick and a world heavyweight champion. Unfortunately

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Speaker 2: he lost that, but he looks to reclaim gold in

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Speaker 2: his future by winning the Elimination Chamber this weekend. Hopefully

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Speaker 2: we'll see how that plays out. But appreciate you being

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Speaker 2: here for this episode of the Battleground Podcast. If you

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Speaker 2: But without further addo, here is our interview with Trick Williams.

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Speaker 4: What's up you guys?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into iHeartRadio's official wrestling podcast, The Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 2: In ww SmackDown is heading back to Dallas, Louisville, and Raleigh.

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Speaker 2: Tickets available online at ticketmaster dot com and today joining

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Speaker 2: us on the show. No stranger to the show. A

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Speaker 2: man known by many names. Let's see let's go down

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Speaker 2: this list. Uh, there's Tricky two times, there's Mister That,

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Speaker 2: there's Sweet Daddy Trick, there's the annoying one, there's mister

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Speaker 2: Lim and Pepa Steppa. Let's give it up for Trick

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Speaker 2: Williams joining the show, my man.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Man, we got a lot of things to talk about

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Speaker 2: since the last time you've been here on the show.

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Speaker 2: But I want to jump right into this real quick,

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Speaker 2: because you've talked about this before, even before you know,

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Speaker 2: you got to NXT and everything else. You had that

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Speaker 2: first SmackDown appearance and a totally different role than what

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Speaker 2: you're in now. How wild is it looking back at

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Speaker 2: that from where you are now?

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Speaker 3: Man? God is good? Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, like you know, a lot of times you

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Speaker 1: feel like you're ready for something and you want to

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Speaker 1: everything happened when it's supposed to happen. Now I'm missed

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Speaker 1: the main event of SmackDown. Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about it for sure now.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people when when you made your way

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Speaker 2: through WW, when you went through NXT, you teamed up

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Speaker 2: with Carmelow and then everybody was kind of like, Oh, what's.

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Speaker 4: Gonna happen now that they parted way.

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Speaker 2: Some fans which we don't gonna we're not gonna acknowledge them,

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Speaker 2: said that you needed Melo to stay relevant in hindsight?

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Speaker 4: Hindsight?

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Speaker 2: Did that doubt fuel your rise to being mister main

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Speaker 1: You know, like I see, I see a lot of

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Speaker 1: the comments online, you know, just inevitably, like when you

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Speaker 1: hop on your timeline, people gonna talk, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. If you care about the craft, you know,

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Speaker 1: see I see negative comments all the time. I see

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Speaker 1: positive comments all the time. But you know, regardless, the

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna keep.

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Speaker 4: Grinding, absolutely for sure.

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Speaker 2: Something something really cool about Trick Williams is his name

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Speaker 2: is etched in the history books as becoming the first

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Speaker 3: Title TNA also known as the trick and a title.

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Speaker 3: But uh, I mean yeah, I mean I knew, I

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Joe Hendry was bold enough to

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Speaker 1: He just made me an elite caliber of all talent

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Now what's it like seeing Joe Hendry now being a

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm I'm you know, I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy for Joe Hendry, you know, what I mean,

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Speaker 3: And look at what he's done.

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Speaker 1: Man, he's been a Royal Rumbles WrestleManias, you know, before

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Speaker 2: Right absolutely for sure. Now you mentioned Royal Rumbles, I

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Speaker 2: Rumbo countdown hit recently in Saudi your music played, what

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Speaker 3: You know, to be honest with you, you know that

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people there in Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 1: that trick. You know what I mean to me, like

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Speaker 1: I take that. I don't take nothing for granted man

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Speaker 2: Definitely a fun time watching that crowd chanting, whoop that

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Speaker 4: I mean, anywhere you go you hear Trick Williams. Whoop

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Speaker 2: People have really gotten behind Trick Williams, including legends like

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Speaker 2: Mark Henry saying that you make them want to wrestle again.

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Speaker 4: What what's that kind of praise do for you? Mentally?

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Speaker 1: Man, I mean, I know, it seemed like everything's just

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Speaker 1: way back in the day, the world's strongest man. So

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Speaker 3: Like that's Mark Henry Man.

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Speaker 1: And shoot, let's run it, dann Mark if you're ready,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready, man, Let's talk about it and put the

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Speaker 3: Get it people what they want, Mark, get it people.

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Speaker 2: In reversus Trick Williams. I'll buy a ticket for that.

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Speaker 2: I'll raise my hand, I'll pay for it for sure.

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Speaker 3: Versus mister Lemon Pepper Stepper selling out.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be great and maybe we might see it

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Speaker 2: at one of the shows Dallas, Litlevore or Raleigh Again.

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Speaker 2: Tickets available online ticketmaster dot com.

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Speaker 4: Now, one thing that's been really cool to see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is what I've always wanted, This is

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Speaker 3: So like that was always the expectation always to go.

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Speaker 1: When I jumped in this business, I said, man, I

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Speaker 1: When I grab a microphone, I want people to listen.

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Speaker 3: Do all along.

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Speaker 1: I can see it clear as day, twenty twenty vision.

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Speaker 1: This is who I am, this is what I want

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Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, I've been in some arenas

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Speaker 2: the loudest arena that I've ever been in was WrestleMania.

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Speaker 4: Weekend Stand and Deliver.

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Speaker 2: My watch was going off telling me loud environments because

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Speaker 2: that Philadelphia room was the loudest you've heard during WrestleMania

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Speaker 2: Weekend at Standing Deliver.

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Speaker 1: It's tough, but like Philadelphia has a special place in

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Speaker 1: my heart. Man, I think I said this on this

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Speaker 1: show before. Like, Man, I had my last down of

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Speaker 1: standing Deliver Philadelphia. You know, shoot the laya the largest

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Speaker 1: my heart. You know, I hit the pop, But honestly,

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Speaker 1: I'm so lit myself come into the ring. I could

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Speaker 1: barely hear anything. I'm just going out great is going

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Speaker 1: so you know what I mean. Like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't really check to compare when I walk through the curtain. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm enjoying the energy and it feeds me

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Speaker 1: and it fees me. He's like turns me to a masta.

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Speaker 1: So it's a special thing.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely for sure.

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Speaker 2: Now, recently we heard Drew McIntyre actually have some high

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Speaker 2: praises for you, saying that you've got all the tools

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Speaker 2: he put you up over above somebody else you know

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Speaker 2: from NXT. Oh, but fem me, how heavy does that

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Speaker 2: co sign feel coming from someone like Drew McIntyre, who's

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Speaker 2: the current champion that you're trying to get that belt from, right?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I got the utmost respect for Drew McIntyre.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at him. He's a specimen, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, these are the guys that you

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Speaker 1: want to see represent the business specimens. Alpha males, tigers, lions, bears,

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Speaker 1: oh my, you know. I mean, that's who you need

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Speaker 1: to see holding titles, holding the belts. When they walk,

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Speaker 1: you know, through the airport, people turn their head and

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Speaker 1: look and see who is that. Drew McIntyre is one

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Speaker 1: of those guys for sure. So I take that praise,

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Speaker 1: you know, very seriously. But I got to make it

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Speaker 1: come to fruition. I gotta work. I gotta do my part.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: I'm grinding. I'm grinding every single day like I'm after it.

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Speaker 1: I'm hungry, you know what I mean. I appreciate it, Drew,

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Speaker 1: but at the same time, I want your spot, so

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Speaker 1: don't get it twisted.

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Speaker 4: And you know we're gonna put it out in the universe.

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Speaker 2: We'll see Trick Williams get that main event spot we'll

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Speaker 2: see him take the title from Drew.

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Speaker 4: And you know, looking back.

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Speaker 2: At this, because this has been kind of cool watching

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Speaker 2: since you've gotten up to the main roster. You stepped

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Speaker 2: into the ring with Drew McIntyre, with Randy Orton this

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Speaker 2: early on.

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Speaker 4: That's the company showing some serious trust in you. How

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Speaker 4: does it feel knowing they see you in that spotlight.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad they know what they got in

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Speaker 1: their hands. That's what Trick Williams belongs. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, that's what I'm made for.

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad that they know it because I know

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Speaker 1: it and shoot every day that's what I'm working towards.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Trick Williams is our guests on the show before

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Speaker 2: we let you go, Anything you want to say to

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Speaker 2: the fans that are watching or listening to this right now.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, come get your tickets. Come see It's in Dallas, Louisville, Raleigh,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. Let's talk about it. We're gonna whoop that

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Speaker 1: all around the world, your vowel sensation. Find me www

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Speaker 1: dot worldwide, Willie dot com where we can whoop that

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Speaker 1: or You can just go to ticket Master and find

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Speaker 1: your boy.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about it.