WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Good Problems To Have

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>the Star in Frisco, SAT. And now your hosts Isaiah

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<v Speaker 1>stand back, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's.

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<v Speaker 1>presenting Talking Cowboys like always. We are back from the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Frisco and the Cowboys Headquarters. Rob Phillips, isa

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<v Speaker 1>stand back, heck My Harrison. We've got Chris Beazy in

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<v Speaker 1>the back and I'm Kyle Yeoman's and gentlemen, Chris Beazy,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Beazy, Chris Bean, beat me up, Scotty. I heard

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<v Speaker 1>you start the show like that. I like that's We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see Beazy's Xbox name, his gamer tack Daddy Shark, DoD

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<v Speaker 1>DoD DoD DoD DoD dode. I'm not gonna say how

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<v Speaker 1>many dudes because I don't want to give it a

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<v Speaker 1>blow him up, But it's Daddy Shark. Daddy Shark is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. Ultimately, it's a it's a really really

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<v Speaker 1>good Xbox name. He got it, like really early on.

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<v Speaker 1>Before that he get marked one. He just said sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so that's that's Beasi's mind. Yeah, Okay, there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. So maybe you can't eat to buy it.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to buy it. You need to heck on?

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<v Speaker 1>What would your Xbox name be? Kill them? Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's probably that's probably yea early on,

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<v Speaker 1>probably like you would have to be like killer or

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<v Speaker 1>seven never something like that, something like that. Yeah, lot

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<v Speaker 1>of numbers after it, Rob, What would you be afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of roller coasters? Yeah? Probably scared of stuff, scared of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff seventeen something like that. Back, I like that, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't scared off. I got phobious. I got phobious. I

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<v Speaker 1>got phobius. Scared girl dad screaming Aggie, disappointed Aggie about that.

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<v Speaker 1>That one's definitely taken. I guarantee that after Saturday, we

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<v Speaker 1>need somebody eats a photoshop like a picture of us.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have a coach right now. Nobody's rumored to

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<v Speaker 1>go to every other job in the country every year.

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<v Speaker 1>Can somebody, somebody out there who's listening, photoshop just like

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<v Speaker 1>a lower third on each one of our names, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Xbox gamer tag, the ones that they liked

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<v Speaker 1>the most. Take a pole top three or four selections

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<v Speaker 1>for each person. What would yours be? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You dubbed for life, Yeah, something Seattle, Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>My actual gamer tag is zu side four. Crazy? How

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<v Speaker 1>I got like that? That's number was four? My nickname

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<v Speaker 1>was Zeus name my boys. You say zu side, This

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<v Speaker 1>would be Judge dreads, Judge d I was thinking crazy

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<v Speaker 1>for the cracking or something like like that with Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like that. You like the crack crack like

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<v Speaker 1>anything Seattle cracking. There you go, that's all right. News

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<v Speaker 1>and Notes for the Cowboys. Jerry Jones was on the

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<v Speaker 1>fan a couple moments ago, and I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>you thought about what he had to say on the radio,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to say he might have tipped his

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<v Speaker 1>hand as to what could happen when Tyron Smith comes back.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a chance that he does come back this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Jones said that yesterday on the fan, But what's

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<v Speaker 1>the situation at the left tackle spot and is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything moving into the week to be encouraged enough. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>has sounded like tire and has a great chance to

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<v Speaker 1>play this week, and look, they'll see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Mike about it yesterday. The plan is for

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<v Speaker 1>him to get into practice. On some level. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound like it's going to be the heaviest Wednesday practice

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<v Speaker 1>they've had because they know they've got this crazy stretch

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<v Speaker 1>three games and twelve days ahead. But I think they

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<v Speaker 1>feel good about it. So but yeah, to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry was asked, what's your right tackle plan? He said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we know now. Maybe that's Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>just saying I don't want to tell you on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he's he's kind of tipped his hand in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, or at least given his impressions of what

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<v Speaker 1>they might do. So I don't know. We'll see because

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<v Speaker 1>I think both guys Karen Steele and law Collins played

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<v Speaker 1>better in this past game at left tackle for Steel

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<v Speaker 1>right tackle for Collins. I'm not sure what they should

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<v Speaker 1>do either. I don't know if there's a clear cut

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<v Speaker 1>answer here. I don't know how you guys feel about it,

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<v Speaker 1>But how do you feel about it? I feel good

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I feel good about what Taran Steele did

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<v Speaker 1>against Atlanta. But you don't understand without the threa of

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<v Speaker 1>a bona fide pass rush, you would expect him to

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<v Speaker 1>be as good as he as he was. Obviously, those

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<v Speaker 1>improvements have got to make this coaching staff feel a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better about him right now when you think about

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<v Speaker 1>three games in twelve days. I believe that's what this

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<v Speaker 1>next stretch is going to be. When Tyren Smith, his

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<v Speaker 1>availability is important to us right now. So if he's

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<v Speaker 1>eighty percent, I set him. It doesn't matter ninety percent

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<v Speaker 1>I sit him because we're gonna need him over this

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<v Speaker 1>last stretch. And so like we face this each and

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<v Speaker 1>every season with this stretch, and so it's very important.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mike McCarthy talked about it in the pressor yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>about how important just watching guys and monitoring health right

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<v Speaker 1>now is to the squad. So if we don't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're doing ourselves a disservice. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>few AFC opponents that we're going against but again, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to watch the health of our team. Yep, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't disagree. I think I think you have to for

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<v Speaker 1>him as a as a vet. You need to get

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<v Speaker 1>him back as healthy as possible. So if he's not

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<v Speaker 1>one hundle, keep him sitting down. Sure he's good, because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we we're looking big picture here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like we have a like we have a

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<v Speaker 1>bum behind him. Uh you know, Tarren Steele got his

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<v Speaker 1>legs up underneath them. You know, that's something that we

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<v Speaker 1>said he needed to do. M on the backbone of

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<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota game. And he did that, right, He showed up.

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<v Speaker 1>He took care of business. We're not sitting here talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how how bad he played and how he was

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<v Speaker 1>using the wrong hand and all that jazz. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>he took care of business. If we have a healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>healthy Tyrone, obviously we want him. But if he's not,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not let's not play with him because we know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, unfortunately and guys are some guys are more

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<v Speaker 1>susceptible to injuries than others, and he has a history

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<v Speaker 1>of that. So let's make sure he's as healthy as

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<v Speaker 1>can be when he comes back. I'm sorry, did you

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<v Speaker 1>think he dropped a hint on what they might do

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<v Speaker 1>at right tackle or that or that, or that Tyrone

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<v Speaker 1>would just be back this week, so go I'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to go back and look at it. But the way

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<v Speaker 1>that I interpreted it on the fan was before he

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<v Speaker 1>started talking about that specific and they asked him that question,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you do it right tackling? He his quote was,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we know. At the moment before that,

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about Terrence Steele and he mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>Terrence Steele had played better and he's having a great year.

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<v Speaker 1>He I think he said a top notch year or

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<v Speaker 1>something of the sword. I don't remember the exact quote there,

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<v Speaker 1>but then he kind of rattled on a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of draw the or I guess finished the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of his answer by saying, Terren Steele has played

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<v Speaker 1>well on us to give us a great option, a

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<v Speaker 1>great reserve option at left tackle as well as right tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that might have tipped his hand as

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<v Speaker 1>maybe saying, okay, here, he's back to swing tackle. Which

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<v Speaker 1>is something that I know Heckma you had talked about previously,

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<v Speaker 1>is that if Collins takes over at right tackle, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't give that job back, especially whenever Terrence Steele moves

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<v Speaker 1>to the left. Once Terren Steele is done being at

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle, Tyren Smith returns, then Terrence Steele is then

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<v Speaker 1>the swing tackle. Am I under Am I being delusional

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<v Speaker 1>when I say that it was apparent that Leo Collins

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<v Speaker 1>is a better right tackle last week? Just the power

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<v Speaker 1>that he has and the illusional Okay, because I see

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<v Speaker 1>immediately a guy that comes out and his presence, how

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<v Speaker 1>physical he is at the right tackle. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. Look, Terrence Steele has done a wonderful job,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but I just I don't think he's going

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<v Speaker 1>back to right tackle over Well, that's kind of Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>kind of reference. I think what you're talking about, how

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<v Speaker 1>physical let he called us, He called him the enforcer

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<v Speaker 1>of the offensive line, and then he's kind of got

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<v Speaker 1>a dark side in terms of just how nasty he

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<v Speaker 1>can get in that group, and I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>something he brings to the table. But then there's this

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<v Speaker 1>whole continuity thing too. When Terrence Steel has been over

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<v Speaker 1>there for five games, they've had a ton of success.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mike McCarthy said at the start of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>when you've got the same five starting the entire season,

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<v Speaker 1>like analytically, you're gonna win a lot of football games now,

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle Collins has been the mainstay there, so it's a

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<v Speaker 1>different kind of situation. But I don't have a field

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<v Speaker 1>right now for what they're gonna do either. Are we

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<v Speaker 1>getting a false sense of hope for Taryn Steele, a

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle though, because of the way he played against Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned it, there's a difference between the Denver pass

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<v Speaker 1>rush and the Atlanta pass rush. Even Denver, we were

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<v Speaker 1>looking at it on paper and saying, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>like this team didn't have Von Miller, they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>Bradley Chubb. That that didn't look like the pass rush

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<v Speaker 1>that would have made noise. Oh, they made some noise

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta we went into its end. Yeah. No, there should

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<v Speaker 1>not be any pressure in this ball game at all,

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<v Speaker 1>and there wasn't. And that's a credit to yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. But I just don't want to get ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of myself and Isaiah you can give your input on

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<v Speaker 1>this as well. Just because they didn't give up anything

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<v Speaker 1>against Atlanta doesn't mean they weren't moving forward. No. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean any team that you play against, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>this league, you're susceptible to them finding a way to

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<v Speaker 1>generate pressure. So I mean the comfort you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>continuity obviously, Collins is when he's healthy, he's the he's

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<v Speaker 1>the best tackle right tackle we have, hands down. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not even a conversation piece. But the continuity's question is

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<v Speaker 1>what we is something we were trying to figure out, right,

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<v Speaker 1>how how long is it going to take him to

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<v Speaker 1>get back integrated? How long is gonna take me to

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<v Speaker 1>feed underneath them? You know, how are his hips all

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of things right? So we see that he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's good, so you keep him there, right, he's ready

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of business. Um did the same issue,

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<v Speaker 1>the same question marks that we have in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>continuity and all that stuff. Our upcoming opponent is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out as well. And I know we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk not talking about them yet, but their officive line

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<v Speaker 1>was totally shaking up this year and they ain't had

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much five fresh ones up there. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to figure out, that continuity piece. The guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are better guys versus the guys that have been

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<v Speaker 1>already playing, and do we switch these guys out? So

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<v Speaker 1>this is a problem that that obviously we're not the

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<v Speaker 1>only team that's trying to figure it out. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as again I think Colin's healthy obviously playing,

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<v Speaker 1>If Smith's not one hundred percent, the heck's point, keep

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<v Speaker 1>him off. We're you surprised that Dante Fowler came off

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<v Speaker 1>for I R before this game. He's the one guy

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<v Speaker 1>that when he when I saw Dante Fowler run out

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<v Speaker 1>of the I can't believe he would actually get healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously got healthy for this game, and I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to that matchup. A tern still handle him. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have any pressure maybe one pressure on Dak,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's a good problem to have, no matter. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about something that's really good, great, a great

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<v Speaker 1>problem to have, and we're talking about depth and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>down the line, if there's something anything that happens for

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<v Speaker 1>me Thymas Smith, I just want to see him back healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew that they we come to a point in

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<v Speaker 1>the season where he pops possibly would miss some games.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that we have a bunch what we feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we have a bona fide tween tackle. Zeke is doing

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<v Speaker 1>so many good things in pass pro and also with

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<v Speaker 1>our blocking tight ends McEwen being back. He did a

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<v Speaker 1>heck of a job as well. So look if we

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of band aid this for these next couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks twelve games, I'm excuse me, three games in

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<v Speaker 1>twelve days, like I think it benefits us. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've just they got to clean up the penalties inside

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<v Speaker 1>and look at particularly it's Connor Williams at the left

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<v Speaker 1>guard spot, and it's you know, everybody's spoken about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry spoke about it again this morning, like, not that

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting necessarily bad calls against him, but there's something

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing technique wise. It's leverage that is catching the

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<v Speaker 1>official detention and I think he's leading the league in

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<v Speaker 1>penalties now. Oh yeah, it's something that's it's got a change.

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<v Speaker 1>You can look at all of them and say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not every one of them's you know, maybe a fair

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<v Speaker 1>call or it's close, but if it's keep calling against you,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta do something and change about it. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the biggest thing right now, besides figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>that right side. Assuming you get tiring back, you got

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta shore that up. That's weight room and leverage

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<v Speaker 1>for for for a Connor for for that Connor bro

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel as if he's undersized at that position.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see him in person. He looks

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<v Speaker 1>like he's still a grown man obviously, but he definitely

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<v Speaker 1>came into the league underside. He came into under size,

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<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately, genetics plays a huge part when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not just about technique at that position,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going against the strongest Literally, he's going against the

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<v Speaker 1>strongest guys on the field. When you're playing at the

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<v Speaker 1>guard position, the biggest dudes, the biggest, strongest guys that

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<v Speaker 1>the opponent has is coming against you. And leverage plays apart,

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<v Speaker 1>weight plays apart, strength plays apart right, and unfortunately, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's probably taking an l in all three of

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<v Speaker 1>those categories whenever he steps on the field with most opponents.

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<v Speaker 1>Jarrett was another problem, Grady Jared, I mean, yeah, again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we've seen it with some other matchups earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this season as well. Yeah, do you think Connor McGovern

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<v Speaker 1>gets a little bit of playing time? I know Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>was asked that question and he kind of shifted it

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<v Speaker 1>aside and talked about player versatility, position flex and saying

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<v Speaker 1>that most of the snaps that McGovern has had have

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<v Speaker 1>come on the right side, but he did get some

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<v Speaker 1>snaps at left guard whenever Connor Williams was taking snaps

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<v Speaker 1>as the backup center. Connor McGovern was the left guard

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<v Speaker 1>in those sets throughout training camp and I'm certain that

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<v Speaker 1>probably has continued into the season as well. But do

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<v Speaker 1>you think there's a chance McGovern maybe gets into rotation

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit if the penalties continue. McGovern is obviously

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<v Speaker 1>doing something from Monday to Sunday that's not getting him

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<v Speaker 1>any reps on the offensive line, And going back to

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams, I just feel as though, man, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with anything on any team, you're only strong as your

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<v Speaker 1>weakest link. So if we're gonna say, of the starting

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<v Speaker 1>guys that we have, Connor Williams is the weakest linked,

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<v Speaker 1>then the team is obviously trying to figure out a

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<v Speaker 1>way to not have him get the penalties that he's getting. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's either it's either whole Jared or allow him

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<v Speaker 1>to get a sack. It's a it's you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>I for one, Connor, go ahead and hold him so

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't get that pressure. But it is and

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<v Speaker 1>as the course of the game, went on every time

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<v Speaker 1>that was a flag. You're just going it's holding yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so, I mean, I just want him to

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<v Speaker 1>get better, be better. It's like, you know, we're seven

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<v Speaker 1>and two. We're seven and two, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to nick pick the hell out of Connor Williams, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let's he's been the guy last year that

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<v Speaker 1>stayed the healthiest. You know, Um, he's having to help

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<v Speaker 1>be honest as well, and them two together, if we

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<v Speaker 1>could just mend them into one, I guess that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way I gotta look at it. Yeah, you gotta, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta look at it in the grand scheme of things too.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, we're nitpicking right now. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>those penalties happened in the second half of a forty

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<v Speaker 1>three to three win. Now, if those penalties happen and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a three point ball game, it's a seven point

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<v Speaker 1>ball game. Calling him the story referring to it, that's

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<v Speaker 1>nitpicking me because those things you gotta you gotta shure up.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously it's not. It's not something that it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we can we can fix that. Right now, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>a glaring issue and it's been all season long. And

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't just been the one game. It's a glaring issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's not like when I was playing

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<v Speaker 1>and Flowzell led the league and false starts, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like, it's not that's not something we're

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<v Speaker 1>you just like, hey, Flow, just just sitting on the

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<v Speaker 1>front leg a little bit more and just just wait

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<v Speaker 1>for the ball to be snapped. This is like you're

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<v Speaker 1>being out manned. And that's a that's a problem because

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<v Speaker 1>when we start looking at the teams that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>that we obviously have to face the remainder of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>And then as we start looking at these playoff teams,

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<v Speaker 1>as we start trying to make this playoff run, you

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<v Speaker 1>start you look at the Rams who you're gonna play against.

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<v Speaker 1>They got their butt kick last last night. But who's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna line up over Connor Williams Aaron Donald? Right, you

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<v Speaker 1>start looking at the type of guys that are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be lined up over him. If you're a defensive if

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at a defensive end, right, I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Parkson's here, you, Michael Parsons. I'm picking the worst

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<v Speaker 1>tackle that you have and I'm putting them on them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting the worst tackle. I'm Michael Parson goal against

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<v Speaker 1>the worst tackle they have because you have the advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be the same thing as we face these

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<v Speaker 1>teams that have really good interior D Lineman. I'm putting

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<v Speaker 1>my best interior D linement. I don't care if youre

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<v Speaker 1>playing on the right side. I'm putting you on the

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<v Speaker 1>left side today because Connor Williams is right there, Mike Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike McCarthy. I mean he references competition there and

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<v Speaker 1>not that they're going to make a change, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>think his preference would be to stick, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>stick with the same five, get that, keep that going.

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<v Speaker 1>But look that Yeah, McGovern is a guy that he

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<v Speaker 1>has said has earned the right to play on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's as the s or you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>fullback or whatever. They're trying to kind of get him

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, get his feet wet a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right like that. I think they're more comfortable with

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<v Speaker 1>him probably at right guard than left guard. Le Collins

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<v Speaker 1>has taken reps at guard, Like I think it's something

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<v Speaker 1>to watch with eight games left, but I think they

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<v Speaker 1>they think he can get this corrected, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>they they have spoken about the competition at that spot,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll see. And wasn't it last year Jedrick Wells

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<v Speaker 1>from I believe the rookie for the Cleveland Browns was

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<v Speaker 1>the most penalized last season. And that's a team that

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<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time running the ball. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, however you look at it, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to. I've been a person that has piled

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<v Speaker 1>on Connor many a time. Right now, I just feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's having like you said, he's having the

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<v Speaker 1>best of the best over the top of him, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to get match up and get pressure up

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<v Speaker 1>the middle. If he's holding and he's getting beat u

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<v Speaker 1>in a blowout win, that's where the nitpicking comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're getting the close competition. And obviously those like

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<v Speaker 1>in the New England games where we were we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>need that holding penalty, and I believe it was something

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<v Speaker 1>else that he got as well. I mean, those are

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<v Speaker 1>things like that's bone headed players. You can't make those

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<v Speaker 1>because you obviously cost your team. No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't cost your team like that. And maybe there

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<v Speaker 1>that that does open the door for a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of competition. I think Connor mcgoverns in another competition right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Top slot receiver in the him Cooper Cup, Tyree Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>Ceedee Lamb. He's definitely the biggest. And then Connor mccovering

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<v Speaker 1>McGovern has got a score touchdown this sea one yard line.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, now, you and I need to make t shirts.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna wear it every front. Yeah, because somebody got

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<v Speaker 1>a bet going big man touchdown Fridge McGovern. What's the bet?

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<v Speaker 1>What's Yeah? You've made it with the people across the pond.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I think they've misunderstood me. It's always understanding

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<v Speaker 1>that they hit me up on Twitter the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll have to remind me, if you guys are listening,

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<v Speaker 1>to remind me what the bet was? I forgot Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, we will get that reminder, of course, from

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<v Speaker 1>our friends in the UK. But when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>nine to seven. We'll get to those here in a second,

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<v Speaker 1>But first, I think you guys needed a little motivation.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that? Well, Mike McCarthy got after the team after

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<v Speaker 1>they lost to Denver. And you know how last year,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean really all the way throughout his Cowboys tenure,

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<v Speaker 1>he's known for being very animated. Right. He of course

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<v Speaker 1>had the watermelon smashing last week. Last year, we brought

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<v Speaker 1>out a sledgehammer and he smashed a watermelon. He had

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<v Speaker 1>the Mojoe momojo throughout training camp, Mojoe moments, sticking with

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<v Speaker 1>this team all the way. Time for a Mojoe moment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But this week he pulled out something completely different. What's that?

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<v Speaker 1>He pulled out a little bit of monkey butt, but

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<v Speaker 1>monkey but not just one can, but two cans, and

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<v Speaker 1>then a smaller one as well. I mean, yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>little to go. It's a it's a travel pack, that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what it is. He brought out the monkey butt

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<v Speaker 1>and somehow Caden Gates found this, of course Caden, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>at a hardware store. He had in his cabinet he

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<v Speaker 1>made that up. Basically, I explain it in a very

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<v Speaker 1>radio friendly way. Yeah, radio friendly. Let me tell you

0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:35.399
<v Speaker 1>from a man that's getting up every morning and putting

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<v Speaker 1>in miles. You need this. A chafing is real, and

0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:44.080
<v Speaker 1>you know you don't want to be a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So help yourself with some monkey. But if there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a sponsor happening, happening, it's gotta happen. It's happen. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, this stuff works. Does it? It works?

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<v Speaker 1>It's never had to get to that point yet. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did you know this exists? When when you get

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:07.440
<v Speaker 1>to that point? Tu us? This is you? You want

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<v Speaker 1>to have that in between? Kay? And I'm gonna go

0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:10.680
<v Speaker 1>ahead and ask for this whenever you're done with it.

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:14.440
<v Speaker 1>That one the other one, Yeah, yeah, you're right. A

0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:17.720
<v Speaker 1>hardware store that I didn't I thought it was just

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 1>a different brand. Yeah, I thought it was just a

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<v Speaker 1>different like flavor. Yeah. This one, yeah, give me this one.

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:26.920
<v Speaker 1>That's funny. All right, let's take your calls first. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to Bob in Nashville. Bob, how's it going. You're

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 1>on Talking Cowboys? Hey, good morning, fellas a great show.

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:36.119
<v Speaker 1>What Bob? Hey? Um, I got a I got a

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<v Speaker 1>solution for the Connor Williams. How about put Connor McGovern

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<v Speaker 1>in the backfield on passing situations and then he just

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 1>steps up and lends a hand to Connor Williams. This

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.959
<v Speaker 1>way he does get beat, he then has somebody there

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, another offensive linement to back him up. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Then my last point real quick is I'm still concerned

0:23:57.520 --> 0:24:00.919
<v Speaker 1>about our linebacker corps. Are defensive line, we get up

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:03.119
<v Speaker 1>the field a lot, and we really need good mind backers.

0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:05.440
<v Speaker 1>And we got one of them. Laydon is playing okay,

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and we got Michael, but I'm still concerned about the

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.399
<v Speaker 1>depth of our linebackers. Just want to bring those up.

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 1>Thanks guys, than great call and two really good questions.

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 1>We'll start with the offensive line question with Connor McGovern

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:20.360
<v Speaker 1>basically using him as an h back in that situation

0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and then in a passing down using him to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>step up into pass coverage and be that extra guy

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:29.920
<v Speaker 1>for Dak Prescott to have some protection. Now, the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I would say before I get your opinion on

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<v Speaker 1>this is the fact that you are going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a skills player off the field, and one of the

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 1>strengths of your offense is having the wide assortment of

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 1>skills players that you're out there to challenge defense. So

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a given a take. You're going to

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 1>have that. But is that a possibility to maybe use

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 1>sixty six in an upback package since he's already been

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.639
<v Speaker 1>used as a fullback, maybe use him as an h

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 1>back a little bit there. I like Bob's thinking, you know,

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 1>he has his waterboy, you know, playbook out and I

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 1>can imagine, you know, Connor lining up in the backfield

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>and then they saying shift and then Connor just comes

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:05.160
<v Speaker 1>up and inserts right next to Tyler. To be honest,

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I can see, I see what you're putting them. I

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>pick up what you're putting down. Um to that point,

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 1>I like also like respect, but Kyle had to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to take eleven personnel out of it,

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>And I think when you bring that into when you

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:19.440
<v Speaker 1>bring Connor as a sixth officive linement onto the field,

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:21.359
<v Speaker 1>you you have to make some adjustments in terms of

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>personnel that you're allowed to facilitate on the field. So

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I like the idea of him rotating in there occasionally.

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 1>He's been getting his feet wet. I don't think that

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a coincidence that they've been utilizing him in on

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the game. In the games um at the running back position,

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>at the slot position, they're getting him reps uh in

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 1>the in the case in which he has to step

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>in and take that, and he will be up on

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of the game. So I don't don't think

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that this is just an illusion and just some fun

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff that that Kellen Moore is doing. Uh, it's I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's in the back of their mind that they

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<v Speaker 1>might swap those two out at some point in time

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and he won't be a step behind um. But yeah,

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 1>what was the second part? It was about the linebackers.

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's yea, yeah, we'll get to that next offensive line here.

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 1>What do you think hekma, Yeah, I mean this is

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>a game of studying tendencies and obviously if he comes

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>in on that that I was just like, ah, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. I mean that's my answer in addition to

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 1>what you said about the skill position spot. But yeah,

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.959
<v Speaker 1>you know right now, Yeah, well, last game we had

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 1>eight penalties for eighty yards. That's a lot. And we've

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>been going through the couple a couple of weeks where

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>we've been accumulating these penalties. We want to we obviously

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:29.200
<v Speaker 1>want to scale that back um. And for Connor, he

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>knows that he needs he has to be bad. He

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>has to be getting evaluated on this each and every day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think you can't. I wanted to see how

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<v Speaker 1>many times he's lined up either as an eligible receiver

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>or as a you know, in the backfield. It's only

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<v Speaker 1>been I think it was the most, probably this game

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 1>that he's checked in and made himself eligible, maybe five

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 1>six snaps a game. Like they're not gonna do it.

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott throws at least thirty times a game, Like

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 1>he's not going to be at back there that often.

0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 1>But it's a nice it's a nice wrinkle, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a good thought, and I agree with Isaiah.

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think there they see that he's earned

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the right to be on the field. And if it's

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>not this year, Connor Williams is a free agent next year,

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and Connor McGovern could very well be your left guard

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>next year, depending on what happens. We'll see, but right

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:18.360
<v Speaker 1>now they're trying to, you know, get him on the field.

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>A little bit a little foreshadowing there could happen, could happen.

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about the linebacker corps. Yeah, I

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 1>think I think you'll spot on with what he said

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>about Layton m after, you know, evaluating the game again.

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, Michael did a really good job as well.

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Backside of the backfield. Um Ken O'Neill still waiting to

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>see his impact really hadn't. The production is going down

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit for him. But I think our linebacker

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>group is fine. You know, it's it's one of it

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>was one of those games where we had beat our

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:50.439
<v Speaker 1>opponent into submission and they were paying from behind. They

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 1>had to do a lot to just try and make

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>this game respectable what State didn't. So you know, I've

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.120
<v Speaker 1>just I don't want to worry so much about what's

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 1>going on at the line backup position. I think they

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>played you know, Okay, I like our linebackers. I'm not comfortable.

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's that's what Bob's referring to. I'm

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>not comfortable with our depth. I'm not if we have one,

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 1>If we have one injury to that to our linebacker corp,

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be, you know, in a little bit of

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 1>world of a little bit trouble rotating in Francis Bernard

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:19.959
<v Speaker 1>and Luke Gifford, and I mean Cox, who was your

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.239
<v Speaker 1>depth ultimately, And I don't think we don't think any

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>of us really know how effective either of those guys

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>would be. Maybe those guys maybe they know more than us.

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I hope they know more than us. Obviously with the personnel,

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe those you know, Gifford and Bernard can come out

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>and they can ball. But in terms of what we

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>know against number one units, we've never seen those guys

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>versus one units before. So um, I would like to

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>see another veteran guy. Um, they're just for depth purposes,

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>just because injuries happened. Injuries happening, you can't prevent him,

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's a high contact position. Yeah, I mean Jalen Smith.

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Say what you want about him, but he was a

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>guy that has made a Pro Bowl and he's basically

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>a backup linebacker for you in the past, and you

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>can you can dissect the way he played and was

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>he effective in all that? But they don't have much

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>experience there, so I think it has changed. Like when

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>this training camp started, I think this might have been

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>their deepest position, yeah, other than wide receiver, and it's

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>not anymore. So, Um yeah, yeah, you just hope you

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 1>don't have an injury. They don't seem concerned about it

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>because they haven't gone out or signed somebody. They just

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>brought up Francis Bernard off Ir. But I think it

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>is something. It's a high impact position. You get one

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>injury there, that would be a problem, I think too. Yeah,

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>that Jabril Cox injury, Yeah, kid wasn't It wasn't a

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:34.479
<v Speaker 1>big time key player, but it was key for your

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>death on the heels of the Jayleen Smith release. It

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>was yeah killed. That was two and I was one

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>two punch right there. And even still they're not going

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>to the Luke Gifford. I think Luke Gifford may have

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>had two snaps are so in the game before. So

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 1>even with that depth, they're not going into their bag

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>with those guys. But obviously, if Layton goes down, if

0:29:56.360 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Keyan O'Neill goes down, um, Mica, of those guys, you

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 1>know you're you're now back to square one. We're trying

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>to get a playmaker in there. But I think the

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>most we saw Luke Gifford was in the goal line

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>situation against him. That's where we saw Jabril Cox exactly,

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and that's exactly and Jabril Cox made the play against

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 1>New York whereas whereas Luke Gifford did not make a

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>play against him. For so I guess that that does

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>say it. But outside of that, you're right, he hasn't

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>really been on the field a whole lot, but if

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>something were to happen, definitely would be there. Um. Okay,

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Scott in why Oming, you were on Talking Cowboys? What up,

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Scott Scotty, Hey guys, Hey, good morning it Hey. Um,

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 1>thinking back to the early eighties, I think it was

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Washington that normalized and behave back position. And also during

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>the eighties, I watched Lawrence Taylor terrorized us quite a bit,

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and but the Giants used him, you know, they used

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 1>him all over the field. And if there's anybody that

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>could create a high back or a position, it's got

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to be dan Quinn. Lauren Micah reminds me of LT

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot, and uh, you know, I just I really

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of optimistic that they you never know, you know,

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>what he might be able to come up with. So

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe we just need to be patient about that. But um,

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been watching ever since I watched the

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>tape of Mica and first out of Penn State. Man,

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying LT to myself, and so what do you

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>think that's how praise. It's very high praise. Appreciate the call, Scott.

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>And the one thing I have to say about is

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>he didn't directly compare him to LT. He said he

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>reminds him of LT. So that's always going to be

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>high praise anytime. That name is what pops in your

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>head when you're watching a guy play, You're like, okay,

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 1>all right, that guy's a dog. That's exactly what we're

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>seeing with Michael Parsons. Instant dog. That's Hall of Fame fame.

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to go back to what he was saying

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 1>about the Washington football team, the way they incorporated the

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>h back in the eighties. I think that like if

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 1>you back in the eighties, they had these guys called

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the Hawks, and they would run a counter tray with

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>those guys and they would kind of left right and

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>it was hard to stop John Riggins on those counter trays.

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>And so you don't see that we do it a

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>little bit as well when we are pulling our guards,

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>that we don't bring the tight end out outside as well.

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>But That's just one of the things that it's like

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing new under the sun in the NFL. And

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>as much as things you think are new, they have

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>been used before. You know, it's just recycling themselves over

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and over again. But that's a great observation on his side.

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Wealty's a little before my time, Like what how was

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>he used? That's different than the way they're using Micah

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>here in terms of I, you know, thinking back then,

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I always remember Lawrence Taylor on the right side, you know, rushing,

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>so I don't I didn't see him all over the place.

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>And again he may be talking about a different time

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>period than I remember, but he was just a terrorized

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>your offenses man. He was a guy that you couldn't stop.

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 1>You could put a tight end out there if you

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>want to leave your tackle on an island with him.

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>It was only amount of time before he got his

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>sacks and so everything was going away from LT. He

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't one of those ends where you said, you know,

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>oh he only does the pass. He can only come

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>out the quarterback. He didn't play the run well, Na,

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot. He played everything well. He was never

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 1>off the ball. I mean, he was as rush Yeah,

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>that's okay. I mean, I don't know if that's what

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 1>he's getting at. He tried to just make Michael into

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>that role. I want to say they did stand him

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>up quite a bit though every once in a while, Lawrence.

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to say they stood him up. Now, not

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>to the extent of Michael Parsons and putting him at

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the same all Banks, Pepper Johnson, those guys were your linebackers.

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>He was he was your edge, yeah, guy Belichick, right, yes,

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit. So, um, what do you think

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>about the h back scenario there? If like using a

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>couple different guys it kind of being versatile and using

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>guys in different situations like Scott was asking there, I'm

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.320
<v Speaker 1>not sure, honestly not sure. He just kind of mentioned

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 1>it about the Washington football team and stuff like that.

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 1>But I think we're already doing that already. We're already

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 1>using our tight ends as as h backs. These guys

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 1>go in motion on one side of you see him

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 1>come back and block the edge on the other side.

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>So I mean it's just come down and crack back

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>block exactly. So I think I think Kella Moore uses

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that to his advantage every game and don't line up

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>with a traditional fullback, but he finds a way to

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>get a lead blocker. All right, let's take one more

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 1>call before we take our next break. Mike from Newton,

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Iowa is on the line. Mike, welcome to Talking Cowboys. Oh.

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't hear anything, Mike. I don't even hear the

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>becoming Newton. I don't hear the I don't hear the

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>buzz that we normally would have. Mike. All right, Chris,

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>let's go ahead and go to a break. Then, since

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:58.359
<v Speaker 1>we don't have anything, Mike, Mike calls back, call us

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>back if he's if he's on the line still or

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 1>not on the one? Oh, now I hear the buzz, Mike.

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Are you there? Hey? Mike, Yeah, Hey, pretty good. My question,

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I'll make a quip because you guys going to go

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>on to break. My question is that Isaac stand back

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Donovan Wilson. I mean, if you guys recall last year

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>he popped uh Cook, the Minnesota running back, and Mike

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>question is on that are we going to see him

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>pop somebody like if he comes into Kansas City game,

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>because lately I haven't seen him pop anybody. I mean,

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 1>I see him make tackles. He's not popping anybody is

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:41.759
<v Speaker 1>on the statue Pop Pops an official stat from Mike

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>in Iowa. Thanks for the calls, Mike, welcome. Yeah, Hey,

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 1>that's what Donovan Wilson did last year. He's known as

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>a heavy hitter, and I can only remember one time

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>this year where he really clacked the pads and we

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 1>thought it was going to be a penalty. So he's

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 1>not in there and nearly as much either. Yeah, he

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>got hurt when he came back. Malie Cooker was playing more.

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Now he's not in there nearly as much. I think

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>he's trying, I know when we're watching a game, you

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 1>know in the studio, where he's flying around and he's

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 1>trying to get in there, but there's other guys that

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>are there already, so he's kind of just a cleanup man.

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of a testament to our front seven

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.399
<v Speaker 1>and their ability to kind of, you know, get things

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 1>under wraps before he shows up. Last year, he was

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>coming down having to make the tackles. This year, he's

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>not having to do that as much when he's in

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>the game, or I think our guys up front are

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 1>really handling it. So that's that's really good. Yeah, I

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>just jogged my memory about Jayron Curse because I think

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 1>that's part of the thing is they've they've got more

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>safety depth than they by far than they had last year,

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's affecting his snaps. But I think also maybe

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Curse going back to the linebackers like that helps a

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit too, because he's he's a safety, but he's

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 1>around the box a lot plays every snap. They probably

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>look at him almost like as part as sort of

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>that linebacker corps. And even though he is a safety,

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 1>just in terms of that big nickel and the versatility

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 1>that he provides, even though you know in a bass situation,

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>he's not a guy that you know it is gonna

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>line up and and and stack up against the run

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 1>like a normal linebacker. Wood all the time, I saw

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Donald Donald do some really good things in the Atlanta game.

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he came up as I can't remember which

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>court it was, but came up to the line of

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>scrimmage and flew and knocked that hell out. He did

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>pop somebody, yeah, I mean, and in the running game

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 1>he was standing guys up. I mean, and that's old school.

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you don't find it since Rod Woodson. Guys

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 1>like where your defensive backs were coming in and knocking

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the hell out of offensive lineman and Donald did that.

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just the physical attack style of dan Quinn's defense.

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I think all of these guys have bought into and

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>it's really good to see Donovan Wilson get into the

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>fold now, um, after obviously not really seeing him in

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>training camp. You know, I want to see it, of course. Yeah,

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 1>it's my guy, gig him Ax, Yes, there you go. Uh.

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 1>We were just talking about linebacker depth, but I have

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 1>no issues with the safety depth right now, even even

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>though I know not a lot of it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.439
<v Speaker 1>where that would but yeah, I feel I feel pretty

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.399
<v Speaker 1>good about it. But like we said, you could change

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 1>in a heartbeat, just like it did at the linebacker spot. Okay, Orlando,

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.120
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0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.880
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<v Speaker 1>heck My Harrison, Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips, Chris Beam

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<v Speaker 1>in the back, also in the back erin Gonzalez. We

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<v Speaker 1>want to send out a fantastic celebration for him, and

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<v Speaker 1>round of applause from mister Aaron. He's just got a

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<v Speaker 1>So we're sad to see him go, but we are

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<v Speaker 1>super excited for what he's gonna do with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 1>Great people over there at the American Airline Center, and

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<v Speaker 1>they do great work. As always. Need to pick up

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the wind. Call him a little bit, Aaron. So if

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:19.240
<v Speaker 1>you can take some of the dubs that the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>have been getting and try and no, no, no, don't

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<v Speaker 1>spread round, spread the culture first round. Bye, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>check you need to use. But yeah, the Stars need

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<v Speaker 1>to win a couple more games. But Aaron's gonna he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do great things over there, and we're sad to

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 1>see him go, but definitely happy for him. Moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go to Orlando in New Mexico. Orlando,

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you're on talking cowboys from the Land of Enchantment. How's

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 1>it going? Pretty good? Pretty good? I hear you guys

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>every morning. Um, I mightually here at work right now. Well,

0:41:57.040 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>we appreciate it. Call you guys. Yeah, And I'm a

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>big fan you guys lifetime with cowboy fans. Let's go Cowboys,

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Let's go boys. Let's get it done now. My two

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>questions were, is, um, I know that our offense needs

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>to get on a role against Patrick Mahomes and the

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 1>and them, the Chiefs defense. My question was, um, how

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 1>fast do we have to, um get on pace? You know,

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:27.959
<v Speaker 1>do we have to score like we did this last

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 1>game to prove a point? You know what I mean

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>to so it's not starting off slow like we usually do,

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>because this is going to be a top opponent, you

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Um um. And my second part was, um,

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:45.280
<v Speaker 1>how are we gonna do without Tank and without Randy

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Gregory again, you know what I mean. I know we

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 1>have Michael Parson. You know they move him around from

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 1>outside to inside to the middle. You know, basically he's

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 1>like a monster all over the field, you know. Um.

0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:00.120
<v Speaker 1>My question was, how are we gonna do against that

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Chief's offense with our defense. You know, I'm that's my question.

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>You know how we're gonna basically our offense, so they

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 1>need to start off fast. You know, Orlando, what what

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 1>part of New Mexico are you in? Damning, New Mexico?

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Southern Southern New Mexico border. Okay, gotcha? Got you? I

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say and thank you for the call. By

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the way, Orlando, appreciate you given a call, great questions.

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:30.399
<v Speaker 1>The way I was going to reference this was if

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 1>he was in northern New Mexico. There are lots of

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 1>mountains and ski valleys, the Taoski Valley, red River. This

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be like going straight down a slow This

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>game is going to be high pace, no stopping. You

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 1>better find a way to get it done because if not,

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be tumbling all the way down. Yeah, I guess.

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 1>So remember good ski season out there? H I wish,

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I wish. I would you think I have time to

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>go out there? Didn't you do a shoot mountain? Oh?

0:43:56.600 --> 0:44:02.359
<v Speaker 1>I did you that? It's like the ultimate flex. He's

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:04.919
<v Speaker 1>got the mouth head of the bat. What the hell?

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 1>But But that's the thing is is this is going

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:12.279
<v Speaker 1>to be so fast paced they're gonna be twists, they're

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be turns, but you have to get a good start.

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>If you're not foundation, you don't have a foundation based

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:19.400
<v Speaker 1>in this game, I feel like you're going to be

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 1>in trouble. Do you guys have anything to add on that? No,

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I absolutely agree, And I alluded to the

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:27.839
<v Speaker 1>amount of games that we have in twelve twelve days,

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like this Kansas City game, we need

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 1>to dispose of them as quickly as possible because we

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:35.759
<v Speaker 1>have another game coming up on Thursday. Obviously, if it

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't play out like that, that's fine. I mean, but

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be in the dog fight, overtime,

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 1>all of that as well. So I just you know,

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I agree with him offensively. We would like to start fast,

0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>only because we're up against an opponent that can strike

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<v Speaker 1>fast as well. So you know, we find ourselves and

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<v Speaker 1>attract meet by the third quarter, that would not be advantageous,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. Yeah, this isn't a team that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to have attract meet with. I know we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about them until TI, but these guys usually whenever

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<v Speaker 1>there's two teams that are high powered offenses, like usually

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a defensive game, isn't that usually goals each

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<v Speaker 1>other out. Yeah, they cancel each other out. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>both teams usually suck on offense, but hopefully they just

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<v Speaker 1>suck on offense. But to your point, we do need

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<v Speaker 1>to get going fast against these guys. And the reason being,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want you don't want to play the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>when they have all their available options. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>negate them to just simply throwing the ball. And luckily

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes has not been throwing the ball well on

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<v Speaker 1>the move this year. His decision making hasn't been great.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we can get him in a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>they have to throw the ball and we know that

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<v Speaker 1>we can just send you know, Parsons or whoever else

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to ask some pressure, I think that he'll

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<v Speaker 1>he'll give us some opportunities for our defense. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the best situations for the defense this year has

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<v Speaker 1>been when the Cowboys have had a league. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>not that they can't play in a tight game or

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<v Speaker 1>play from behind, but you know, if they fall down

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen nothing on the road, that's gonna be a problem. Offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not doing everything you want to do in defensive

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<v Speaker 1>we pack can dictate to you what he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>get accomplished, and they could be more balanced because they haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>Their running game hasn't been as much of a featured

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<v Speaker 1>part of their offense, and maybe he doesn't need to be,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't want that to happen on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>That that environments is as tough as it gets. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>this game just has me so excited. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna live up to the hype. I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of fun. And he asked the second

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<v Speaker 1>part of that question. We're running out of time here,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna have to get off before we answer it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the good news is so we're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it all show tomorrow. How is the Cowboys defense going

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<v Speaker 1>to slow down the Kansas City offense? That was his question.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got an entire show on it tomorrow, forty five minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>only forty five five minutes. It'll be fun. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to figure out the way to come up here.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not enough, but we're gonna have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fun with that. Glad you've been with us. You're over

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<v Speaker 1>the last forty five minutes of this one for Chris Beam,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips, Isaiah Stanback, heck Ma Harrison. I'm Kyle Yeoman

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<v Speaker 1>saying so long, We'll see you tomorrow on Talking Cowboys.

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