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Speaker 1: I can feel a good one coming on.

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Speaker 2: It's the Michael Berry Show.

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Speaker 3: What's crazy times. We live in Happy Friday, by the time.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Happy Friday drive home. For those of

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Speaker 3: you who are making your drive home, it's an honor

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Speaker 3: to get to ride along with you. There were a

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Speaker 3: number of things that happened this week that I did

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Speaker 1: It's it's everything doesn't need to be diagnosed.

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Speaker 3: But I suppose there's a certain amount of OCD that

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Speaker 3: likes everything to be completed, nothing to be wasted. And

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Speaker 3: so I'm going to, Uh, I'm going to get to

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Speaker 3: this because I have more content than I'm going to

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Speaker 3: have ants to get to. And there are some things

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Speaker 3: that I don't want you to miss. Number one, the

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Speaker 3: state of Minnesota has come to national attention. And the

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Speaker 3: more you pick at this thing, the nastier it gets.

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Speaker 3: The state of Minnesota, it's not lost on me. Is

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Speaker 3: home to Keith Ellison and Timmy Waltz and ilhan Omar

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Speaker 3: and no.

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Speaker 1: Not Pens anymore.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't live there and not Kirby Puckett. There are

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Speaker 3: bad things going on there, and there are allegedly millions,

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Speaker 3: if not billions, with a b of dollars funding all

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Speaker 3: this nonsense. Multiple whistleblowers in Minnesota tell state lawmakers that

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Speaker 3: they believe the total amount of Somali related fraud is

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Speaker 3: not just one billion, not double that at two, not

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Speaker 1: But double that at eight.

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Speaker 3: They believe the total amount of Smali related fraud is

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Speaker 3: closer to eight billion dollars. Even if they've exaggerated and

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Speaker 3: it's only five, that's an insane amount of fraud. You

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Speaker 4: Function is with The story investigators are finding in Minnesota

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Speaker 4: is growing by the day. Kelly Leffler, who leads the

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Speaker 4: has been investigating the state, they've uncovered at least a

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Speaker 4: million dollars in PPP fraud just two days in. Several

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Speaker 4: of the whistleblowers in Minnesota have also told lawmakers they

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Speaker 4: more than eight billion dollars. Governor Tim Wallas, who is

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Speaker 4: up for reelection, is under fire for all of this

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Speaker 4: happening under his watch, but he says they have paused

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Speaker 4: these programs, They've brought in out outside auditors to get

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Speaker 4: defending his management of the state while also taking shots

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Speaker 5: And in spite of the headwinds, we're up against Minnesota

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Speaker 5: ranks economically, economic growth, happiness, a number of people ensured,

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Speaker 5: education levels near the very top. So I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 5: I have no interest in having this state look like

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Speaker 5: Oklahoma or Mississippi. And if folks are going to commit

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Speaker 4: Minnesota is also now home to the single largest pandemic

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Speaker 4: fraud scheme in the country, and Republicans argue that Walls

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Speaker 3: How about Tim Waltz saying if people believe that, I'm

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Speaker 3: if they believe that because because we're that's such nice

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Speaker 6: Hair, We're gonna really, We're gonna really well, not really

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Speaker 1: You know, Timmy Watas is not going to tolerate.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm sad.

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Speaker 3: Trump said that he does not want to see another Somalia.

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Speaker 3: He was talking about the mess he inherited in this

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Speaker 7: I want to see people that contribute. I don't want

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Speaker 7: and it becomes a congressman does nothing but complain. Well,

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Speaker 7: The Democrats are running some bad ships.

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Speaker 3: And I will remind you the whole George Floyd debacle.

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Speaker 3: Saint George Floyd, the fentanyl freak happened in Minnesota. George

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Speaker 3: Floyd was from Houston, Texas. He went to prison in Texas.

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Speaker 1: He went to prison. He was The cops knew him.

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Speaker 3: you're seeing. This is the fraud you're seeing. This is

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Speaker 3: problem with it. That's not a joke, that's not provocative,

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Speaker 3: that's not shock jock. That's true. We're watching that happen

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Speaker 1: You don't know, Tony, don't you you'll bring me my way.

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Speaker 1: It's Michael Ferris.

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Speaker 3: Earlier in the week, he played you some clips from

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Speaker 3: an interview that President Trump did with Politico Dasha Burns.

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Speaker 3: I realized I didn't get to something related to the

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Speaker 3: no checks on their madness. That's the last break we have,

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Speaker 3: the last opportunity. So she asked Trump if he wished

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Speaker 1: And here's what he said.

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Speaker 7: Do you want to see one of the justices on

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Speaker 7: more before the end of your term? Well, the Democrats

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Speaker 3: It's Thomas is seventy seven, Samuel Alito a seventy five.

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Speaker 1: Do you want one more on there?

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Speaker 7: Well, I hope they stay because I think that's fantastic. Okay,

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Speaker 7: both of those met are fantastic. Before I let you go,

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Speaker 7: I want to ask I will say this. The Democrats

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Speaker 3: I'd rather the Democrats retire and let him replace the

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Speaker 3: would be a problem, he told Dosha. Burns aid, President

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Speaker 3: Trump that Obamacare was up for one purpose, to help

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Speaker 7: Obamacare was set up for insurance companies to become rich.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that was why they In.

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Speaker 7: My opinion, I think the Democrats did it for that reason.

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Speaker 1: Do you know that insurance.

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Speaker 7: Company stocks have gone up sixteen, seventeen, eighteen hundred percent

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Speaker 7: over a short period of time. They've been paid trillions,

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Speaker 7: not billions, trillions of dollars. And what I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: I don't want to pay them anything.

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Speaker 7: No money for the insurance company, sorry fellas, I know

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Speaker 1: I want to.

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Speaker 7: Pay the money directly to the people and let the

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Speaker 1: But you know in fighting me in that the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: So what he's saying is true, and the reason is

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Speaker 3: So you don't have an opportunity to say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: They show up.

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Speaker 3: You take a shot, you're bleeding out, you're unconscious, they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everything but black. And hear another thing that the

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Speaker 1: Google tell me.

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Speaker 2: The name of the white color you chose was called

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Speaker 2: cloud dance.

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Speaker 1: Now that's funny.

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Speaker 2: Everybody know white people can't do two things, and that's

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Speaker 2: jumping dance. So y'all go buy them Sydney Swimmy white people,

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Speaker 2: baby Mama jeans and go do your chicken dance and

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Speaker 2: enjoy being white.

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Speaker 3: High.

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Speaker 1: I got no time there. I see it.

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Speaker 3: I will it to blead color.

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Speaker 4: I want them.

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Speaker 1: To to blad.

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Speaker 3: Twenty six color of the Year is cloud Dancer. A

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Speaker 3: shade of white will be the defining color of the

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Speaker 3: next year. Get those stain removing pins ready, and then

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Speaker 3: the styles desk rights Pantone, the self styled color experts

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Speaker 3: have been predicting a color of the year since nineteen

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Speaker 3: ninety nine. They're pick for what everyone will be wearing, wanting, eating,

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Speaker 3: and otherwise consuming in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Not their pick, it's their dictate.

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Speaker 3: They're the ones that make this cloud Dancer officially pantone

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Speaker 3: eleven dash forty two oh one. Either way, it's a

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Speaker 3: pretty fancy name for white or a symbol of calming

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Speaker 3: influence in a frenetic society, as well as a blank

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Speaker 3: canvas on which we can all start again.

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Speaker 1: Have they gotten it right?

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Speaker 3: Reporters for the Styles Desk sat down to debate. Let

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Speaker 3: us know what you think in the comments, Vanessa Friedman said,

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Speaker 3: quote the announcement heralding Cloud Dancer as next year's color

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Speaker 3: features a woman all in white looking dreamily into a

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Speaker 3: cloud filled sky. Serenity is clearly the vibe, but given

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Speaker 3: the recent political discourse, when I hear white less salubrious

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Speaker 3: associations also leaped to my mind, ones that I doubt

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Speaker 3: Pantone took into consideration. But that could be twisted to

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Speaker 3: pretty uncomfortable ends. I'll bet Vanessa Friedman finds herself twisted

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Speaker 3: into uncomfortable places quite often, you know what with racism,

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Speaker 3: Jim Crow, slavery and all. Callie Holterman responds, it's certainly

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Speaker 3: a conspicuous choice following a year in which DEI programs

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Speaker 3: have been dismantled and the party in power has been

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Speaker 3: debating how.

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Speaker 1: Friendly to be with a white nationalist.

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Speaker 3: That may not be what Pantone means by peace, unity

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Speaker 3: and cohesiveness, but I have to imagine it will come

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Speaker 3: up for some viewers. Alex Vodkoul ads in terms of meaning,

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Speaker 3: I wonder if there are some clues in its title

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Speaker 3: Cloud Dancer.

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Speaker 1: What's going on there.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like a nineteen eighties one hit wonder track. Jacob

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Speaker 3: Gallagher ads, he's from the Style Desk two presumably political

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Speaker 3: implications aside. I do understand why a blank slate might

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Speaker 3: be the right pick for this moment. Culture right now

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Speaker 3: is pretty darn stagnanty. Thing feels like a rehash of

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Speaker 3: a rehash, or a piece of media getting squeezed till

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Speaker 3: there's no juice left. Stranger Things Season five, looking at you,

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Speaker 3: exclamation mark. We're in this moment where we're waiting, where

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Speaker 3: we're awaiting the next turn of the dial that.

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Speaker 1: Moves culture forward. Hence blank slate.

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Speaker 3: I could have read that in my best Paul Lindy

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Speaker 3: voice if I'd known where it was going to end up.

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Speaker 3: Then Miss Friedman is back. She's got white guilt, maybe

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Speaker 3: white Jewish guilt. There are so many associations with white

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Speaker 3: the white dove of peace, the baptismal gown, the wedding dress,

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Speaker 3: the white T shirt. In some Asian countries, mourning as

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Speaker 3: in crying, not early day. White is a color replete

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Speaker 3: with meanings, so not really that blank at all.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, this is just too much.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is a deep dive existent consideration of

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Speaker 3: Pantone picking white as the color of the year. Only

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Speaker 3: the New York Times style desk could bring us this quality. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: I got an email from Clinton Ives, who writes zar

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Speaker 3: kid brag moment. My youngest son, Max Ives, came home

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Speaker 3: from Vegas yesterday. He competed in the Junior World Finals

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Speaker 3: saddle Bronc Championship.

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Speaker 1: From on what place you think he won.

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Speaker 3: In the Junior World Finals saddle Brock Bronc Championship.

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Speaker 1: Azerbaijanis are good, but.

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Speaker 3: He won the whole damn thing, the whole shooting match.

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Speaker 3: If you were to line up every kid thirteen years

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Speaker 3: old in the you and your world final saddle Bronc Championship,

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Speaker 3: and you was to line them from here to the moon,

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Speaker 3: with the moon being first and here being last, here be.

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Speaker 1: On the moon.

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Speaker 3: First place, the whole deal, Not some kid from Idaho.

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Speaker 3: Not some kid from Waller or Belleville.

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Speaker 1: Nope, well I don't know where he lives.

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Speaker 3: He lists morning good on you, max I's congratulations, buddy boy,