1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: People forget how young Lad is. You know, he's twenty 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: six years old and I think his best years are 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: probably a handful of years ahead of him, when he 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: has stuff really really ironed out. 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: John Schneider, manager of the Toronto Blue Jays, joining us 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: right now in foul Territory. Ahead, give him some love too, 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: because we hit, we hit timing. I know they've they 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: fell in one, but they've been they've been rolling right now. 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, my guy. Of course I text him all 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: year and when they're struggle busts, a little bit of 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 3: Schneids is like, no, no, I'm not coming on now. 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: They're hot and all of a sudden, don't strike your head, 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: don't shake your head. 14 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 4: Right, I don't know about I don't know about all year. 15 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: Okay wants me. Hey, you guys are playing pretty well. 16 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: What about I got three options, you know, three different 17 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: days of the week. 18 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 4: But happy to be here. 19 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah great, Yeah, there's so much. There's so much South 20 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: Jersey Philly love right here. Todd doesn't Tod doesn't appreciate 21 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: where he's from, but I know you do. 22 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, absolutely, I can never forget that. Just 23 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: in Philly last week. So I'll the family, you brothers. 24 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: Did you did you coach? Did you manage for free 25 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 3: because of all the tickets that you had to give 26 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: up for the boys? 27 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, three h three days definitely for free in Philly, 28 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: but well worth it for sure. 29 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: So what do you got for us? What's changing? I 30 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: know you get that question a million times when you're 31 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: on a nice little few week run here. What are 32 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 2: you seeing? 33 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 4: Man? 34 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: I think we're we're swinging the bats well, and I 35 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: think the biggest thing really, I mean offensively as a whole. 36 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: You know, we've we've been getting kind of up and 37 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: down the line up, bottom of the order, middle of 38 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: the order, top of the order, kind of at different times. 39 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: And you know, bow Ladd Kerki, they've they've kind of 40 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: started Addison Barger, you know, being a huge, huge impact 41 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: bat for us right now. They kind of started to 42 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: get it going at the same time. So it's been 43 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: something that we tried to address in the off season, 44 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: both personnel staff. Getting David Popkins in here from Minnesota 45 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: has been really good for a lot of our guys, 46 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: and I think the offense is kind of figuring out 47 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: what they can do. And beyond that, man, it's a 48 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: pretty tight group you know, they never feel like they're 49 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: out of a game. We've come back quite a bit. 50 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: We've won some close games lately, and we've seemed like 51 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: we were losing them early in the year. But I 52 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: look at the offense really that's kind of stepped up 53 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: and kind of coming together collectively. 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I want to talk about one guy, George Springer. 55 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 5: You know, a little bit of a setback last year, 56 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 5: and he's come on strong. A veteran guy to stay 57 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 5: hot and get hot. I mean that can only boastball 58 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 5: for you guys. Talk a little bit about him and 59 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 5: his presence and him doing so well. 60 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Georgie got off to such a good start this year, 61 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: and you know, he's maintaining it. He's one of the 62 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: one of the many guys that have kind of hit 63 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: it off of pop in terms of what he's trying 64 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: to do every single at bat. I think just having 65 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: Georgie man, it's he's at the point in his career obviously, 66 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: he's done basically everything World Series, World Series, MVP, big contract. 67 00:02:58,760 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 4: And he's all about win. 68 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: You know, we give him a lot a lot of 69 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: flak for you know, DH and quite a bit because 70 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: he's older, but he's been steady, he's you know, the 71 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: production has been consistent, is it bats? 72 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 4: His base running has been consistent. 73 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: So I think having him kind of be back to 74 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: himself a little bit has been a huge, huge plus 75 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: for us. 76 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 3: My question was going to be somebody that you already 77 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 3: kind of hit on a little bit. With Bo getting hot, 78 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: are you seeing anything different in the sense of confidence, 79 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 3: in the sense of like motivation, Like I'm a free 80 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: agent after this year, whether I stay at Blue Jay 81 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: or not. Is there something different that you're seeing him? 82 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: Because when I watched at bats, is that bats with 83 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: runs the scoring position have been elite and pro and 84 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: I didn't I saw a lot of rollovers last year. 85 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: I saw a lot of fly balls to left. Now 86 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: I'm seeing him stay inside the ball and recently balls 87 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: starting to go out of the ballpark. So is there 88 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: something like that we're not seeing that, like is motivating him. 89 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 1: I think he's, you know, last year first time ever 90 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: I think in Bo's life where he just you know, 91 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: wasn't didn't perform close to his expectations for himself, you know, 92 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: and injuries, trying to find his swing, all sorts of 93 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: stuff going on last year and it's really kind of 94 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: him getting back to himself. 95 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: You know. 96 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: That sounds so easy, you know, and so funny, But 97 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: when Bo's taking aggressive swings, he's really good and he's 98 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: hit the ball extremely hard all year. You look at 99 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: from opening day to now, man, he's he's squaring the 100 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: ball up. They're starting to go over the fence, like 101 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: you said, but with runners and scoring position, it's it's 102 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: interesting you say that. I mean, the numbers are what 103 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: they are, obviously, but he's it's almost like he's on 104 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: the attack a little bit more when he's trying to 105 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: get runners in and if he can just have that 106 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: mindset every single at bat, he's as dangerous as anyone. 107 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: But in terms of motivating I think he's I've known 108 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: him for about ten years now, through the minor leagues 109 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: and into the big leagues. He doesn't need anyone other 110 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: than himself to motivate him. You know, he wants to 111 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: be great, and I think last year was a total 112 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: outlier for him, and when you look at the course 113 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: of his career offensively, so he's u he's kind of 114 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: back to himself, and you know, he has a really 115 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: really big desire to win, and I think when you 116 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: look at it, you know, yeah, he's going to be 117 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: a free agent. You know, he's expressed his thoughts about 118 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: staying here. You know that part of it is kind 119 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: of out of our hands from business side. But he 120 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: really really wants to win, and I think that he's 121 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: really enjoying doing it with this group. 122 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: I was going to hit that you said, you said 123 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: he's dealing with other stuff. Last year. You've known him 124 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: like this is like this is like your your little son, 125 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: your little brother, like you coached him when you guys, 126 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: I mean double A, you guys were winning championships together. 127 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: Did you see the looming pressure and talk about, well, 128 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 3: you know what the team might extend Vladdie, not so much. 129 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: Bo was Was there anything that you ever had to 130 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 3: talk to him about last year, like deal with what 131 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: or control what you can control during the season last 132 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: year because you know him so well. 133 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: No, I mean he gets it, you know what I mean. 134 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: He understands how the whole thing works. And I think 135 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: that comes from being around the game forever and kind 136 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: of going through it himself, you know. So it's the 137 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: whole talk this offseason and in the spring the season, 138 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: you know, all about Vlad and you know, rightfully, so 139 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: after the year he came off of and kind of 140 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: what he means to this organization. But Bo gets it. 141 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't have to talk to him at all. 142 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: I think last year, you know, you just we were 143 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: talking about him kind of just controlling what he can control. 144 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: Really. 145 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: You know, it was a it was a down year 146 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: for us, and you know, we had some young kids 147 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: come up, and you know, I think that was hard 148 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: for everyone that was here, you know, until kind of 149 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: the deadline and then you have your roster flips a 150 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: little bit. But he he doesn't need I don't think 151 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: much advice or motivation in terms of where he is 152 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: in his career. He just kind of understands how the 153 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: business works and and just wants to win. I think 154 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: what he's done really this year thinking about it is 155 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: just just putting winning in the forefront. You know, we've 156 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: asked a lot of him over the over the years 157 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: here in terms of leadership, and you know, you kind 158 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: of get burst onto the scene with some of these 159 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: other guys here, and you're kind of just forcing into 160 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: the spotlight. So I think kind of just worrying about 161 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: him and not worrying about taking care of everyone else. 162 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: He still does that on his own, you know, quietly, 163 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: or you know, with a little bit of a voice 164 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: if he needs to. But I think just worrying about 165 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: what's important. You know that night to win is really 166 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: kind of freedom up too. 167 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: Krat's real question for you. So I'm in Arena Club 168 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: and I opened up a slab pack. I pulled a 169 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: Wyatt Langford Auto rookie card. I got an immediate offer 170 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: from Arena Club. I turned it down. It was in 171 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 2: the mid three hundredths range. I've gotten a few offers since. 172 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: Thoughts on white should I hold on? 173 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: I saw it? I didn't see it when you rip 174 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: the pack, but it looks so sick with everything around 175 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: and how it's spinning in your showroom. That John looked nice. 176 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: But no, you shouldn't sell it. Maybe wait till he 177 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: makes an all start or two, and all of a 178 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: sudden that three hundred goes up and you're going to 179 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: get another instant offer right away on Arena Club. 180 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: That's right, buy sell trade. Slab packs are there for 181 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: you too to rip a pack, And for me, I'm 182 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: just leaving it in the showroom for now, deciding what 183 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to do with it. But if I did 184 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: want to sell, then I can get myself another slab 185 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: pack or buy a card that I want to buy. 186 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: Get twenty percent off your first slab packer card purchase 187 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: by going to arenaclub dot com slash val use code 188 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: fo U L. 189 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: I know your answer is probably gonna be, Oh, it's 190 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: just the same guy. It's just the same old Vlad. 191 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: When Vlad signed the it's his extension? Was there a 192 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 3: little bit? Because you know Vlad too, like you've you've 193 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: been you've been coaching your face off with all these 194 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: young guys, and you're just riding on their coach I 195 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: mean you now you're managing them. But it's like, yeah, 196 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: you've been riding their coat tails. I get it. But hey, 197 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: you know Cavin Bizio, he lefts but you're not riding 198 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 3: his coattails anymore. But anyway, how how different is it 199 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: for Vlad on that day when he signed, when it 200 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: was when it was finally released, was there some kind 201 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: of change in the sense of like relief. Was there 202 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: like a like motivation to say, you know what this 203 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: is on the franchise? Face now? 204 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: It was pretty cool, he kind of he let me know, 205 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: but I think we were in New York earlier in 206 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: the year when it kind of tentatively got agreed to 207 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: before it was you know, news broken and all that 208 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and he kind of came in told 209 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: me quietly before game, gave him a hug, gave me 210 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: a hug, told him I was happy for him and 211 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: his family. The press conference day was cool. You know, 212 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: he's up there in his pink suit. You know, he's 213 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: got the family. You get, you get Edward Rogers out there. 214 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: You don't get Edward out there very often. So yeah, 215 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: it's different, right, It's it's half a billion dollars over fourteen. 216 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: It's it's definitely different. And he's, you know, ready for that. 217 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: You know, I think part of the decision to extend 218 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: the guy is not just what he does on the field, 219 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: but what he's going to mean for this franchise and 220 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: what he's going to mean when people think about the 221 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: Toronto Blue Jays. So he's ready for that. We've we've 222 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: had some some quiet discussions. It's been cool to have 223 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: older guys here too, like Max Schureser, you know, being 224 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: through it kind of be you know, Max has kind 225 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: of been the standard and pitching for a while. We've 226 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: had some cool conversations, the three of us about the 227 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: expectations that come with this contract and just how you're 228 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: going to be viewed, you know, not just what you're 229 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: doing in the batter's box, but how you're being viewed 230 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: on the bases, how you're being viewed in the media, 231 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: how you're being viewed on defense. You know, so people 232 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: forget how young Glad is. You know, he's twenty six 233 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: years old, and I think that there's his best years 234 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: are ahead of him. If that's I mean, it sounds 235 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: kind of crazy, but I think his best years are 236 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: probably a handful of years ahead of him when he 237 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: has stuff really really ironed out. He is the same guy, 238 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it is. It is an easy answer. He 239 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: understands that the expectations and the spotlight are going to 240 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: be a little bit different. One of the things many 241 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: things I love about VLab though, is he just comes 242 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: to the park every day, smile on his face, and 243 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: he's and he's ready to roll. So a little bit different, 244 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: but yeah, token answer, he's He's basically the same dude. 245 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 5: I don't want to you brought up Max. Sure's are 246 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 5: a little bit eight batters he's face over four and 247 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 5: a half innings or four and a third excuse me, 248 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 5: struck out eight Excuse me again. When you see this 249 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 5: guy coming back, is he ready to rock? 250 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: I hope, man, it's it's been such a weird thing 251 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: with him. I know he's had a fun issue in 252 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: the past. It seems like we're kind of at the 253 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: point where he's going to be back helping us. You know, 254 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: I think we're taking a lot of stock not just 255 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: in his outings, but how he's feeling the days after, 256 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, so schedule to throw a pen this weekend 257 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: here with us, and then if he if he's feeling 258 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: up to it, if he's recovering, well, yeah, he could 259 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: be back in our rotation in Cleveland. And if it's 260 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: one more in Buffalo, great, If it's you know, maybe 261 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: not exactly on regular rest in Cleveland. 262 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 4: If it's a couple more days, okay. 263 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,239 Speaker 1: But I think we're getting to the point to where 264 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: we're looking forward. 265 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: To seeing him pretty soon. 266 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: And talk about a guy that's just you know, no nonsense, 267 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm still waiting for the 268 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: first time I have to go take him out of 269 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: a game, you know, in like the sixth inning or something, 270 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: and he's gonna, you know, rip my head off. I'm 271 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: still waiting for it, but I'm looking forward to it. 272 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: You know, he's he still loves the game. 273 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 4: I mean, he's in here. 274 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: He comes into my office about half hour each day 275 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: just kind of fucking shop about. You never know what, 276 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, so you're always kind of prepared for him, 277 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: whether it's posing hitters, defensive positioning rules, this, and I mean, 278 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: he's he's always on, you know what I mean. So 279 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: to get him back is going to be huge shot 280 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: in the arm for us. We've been we've been covering 281 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: some innings with our rotation. Guys have stepped up, you know, 282 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: some depth guys and some bullpen guys. So to get 283 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: him back would be huge. Man, He's obviously Hall of 284 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: Famer and looking forward to you know, him wanting to 285 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: strangle me the first time I take him out. 286 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: I love that. Send Send Kirk out, Send Kirk out 287 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: for the team for the Mountain visit. 288 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna send Pete. Pete's gonna make all the 289 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: pitching changes with Max out there. I told him, just like, hey, man, 290 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: you know I'm not I'm not looking to get you know, 291 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: some some bad press in some mountain business. I've been there, 292 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: done that, so uh, you know, sent Pete out there. 293 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: It's that's that's the play. I remember. I remember Doc, 294 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: I remember Roy Holliday, Charlie Manuel, Charlie. Manu will be like, hey, yeah, 295 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: go talk to him. 296 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's over. 297 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: Cho Chouch looks over. He goes, you go talk to him. 298 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: Nobody's going. Nobody's going out to the mountain and talk 299 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: to Roy Holliday. He's pissed, he's spitting, snorting, he's sweating. 300 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's the same thing with Max. 301 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: It's gonna be yeah, and spring training totally different animal. 302 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: It's all I've had him so far, minus the three 303 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: innings here first weekend. 304 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 4: But I'm looking forward to him. 305 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 3: Man. 306 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 4: It's funny, he says. He's like, I'm the easiest guy 307 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 4: to manage. 308 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: Man. 309 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: I always tell you what I got before the game. 310 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: And you know, if I got one hundred and ten 311 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: that game, great, If I got eighty five of that game, great, 312 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: I'll let you know. And you know, we've just seen 313 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: him be so fiery, so I'm just hopefully, you know, 314 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: just looking forward to him getting back and and he 315 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: just brings an edge about you too. 316 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 317 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: It's you know how it is Fraser crassy when you're 318 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: no matter how the guy is, you're you're saying, Okay, 319 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 1: we're facing Max sures of to night. It's, you know, 320 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: kind of a hard had day for the opposing team, 321 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: and you know what you're getting. So I'm just I'm 322 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: glad he's making progress and hopefully he can he. 323 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: Can be back soon. 324 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 3: This is why you came on the show today because 325 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: Max is doing rehab, so he's not there to bother you. 326 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: I was just Todd was doing the gaming with for 327 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: the Yankees, and Cole came up into the booth and 328 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure the dog, thank thank god Cole's out of 329 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: the dugout. I'm sure there's times where they're like, You're like, 330 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: thank god Max is on rehab down in Buffalo. I 331 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 3: know he doesn't need to bother me during the day. 332 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 4: He did he did one of that with us too. 333 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: I think we were in Anaheim and he went up 334 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: and did it in the booth with with Bassett on 335 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: the mound. You know they're tight, so I think he 336 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: went up with Buck and Dan for a couple of 337 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: innings just to kind of, you know, critique what what 338 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: Chris was doing in the third and fourth inning. 339 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 4: But he's he is like that. 340 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: He'll he'll all of a sudden, he'll come up and 341 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's just sitting next to me 342 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: and Pete for an inning and a half just talking 343 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, we got dude. 344 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 4: You know. 345 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: It's like we can catch up after. But he's he's 346 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: a beauty man. He's he's one of a kind. It's 347 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: like you see him from Afar and you kind of 348 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: hear stories, but he's, uh, he's never off put it 349 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: that way. 350 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: That's good. That's good. So what you see out there 351 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: is what you get. I mean hall of famer, I 352 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 3: mean pro hall of famer, and you get to you 353 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: get to manage him, all right. My question for you 354 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: is something we talked about, texted about in the offseason, 355 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 3: the whole Rokie Sasaki courting ship. You know, it looked 356 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: like you guys were getting them. I asked you what 357 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: kind of presentation you guys put together, and your answer was, dude, 358 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: our player development stuff is next level. All the stuff 359 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: we have in the stadium is next level. How close 360 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: did you feel like you guys were, and is it 361 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: disappointing that you didn't get him and did you feel 362 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: like you were maybe a little duped the fact that 363 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: he still went to the Dodgers and you guys put 364 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: your best foot forward. 365 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was a long process. We went 366 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: out to la and met with him out at his 367 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: agency first, and then I think that presentation was pretty cool. 368 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: We had we had guys from our pitching department, obviously 369 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: front office, but a guy that we just hired, Sam Green. 370 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: He used to kind of work in our front office. 371 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: He's on our staff now put together a presentation with 372 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: his stuff and kind of how it plays and how 373 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: we can get it better. It was interesting because you know, 374 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: he's a young dude and there's still some development that's 375 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: going to go on, so he was interested in that, 376 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: not just you know, what are you going to pay me? 377 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: Or what is what are you going to do for me? 378 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: It was kind of how am I? How am I 379 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: going to get better? So it was interesting to kind 380 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: of talk through that. And then he came up here 381 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: probably ten days later to Toronto with a big group 382 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: of people that were going to be, you know, surrounding him. 383 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: When he did come over here and you know. 384 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 4: We did dinners. 385 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: You know, we had players here talking to him, We 386 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: had people zooming in, showed him the entire facility. Like 387 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: you said, the facilities that we have are our next level. 388 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 4: You know. It's it's funny. 389 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: We had you know, Raydall Gritchick in last series in Arizona, 390 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: who used to be here, and he's walking around here. 391 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: He's like, where was this when I was here? You know, 392 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: It's that's a big draw for players, I think, how 393 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: we can support them with facilities and technology. I mean 394 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: the clubhouse, the training room, the weight room. It's like 395 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: a four season spot in here. Sometimes you know, you 396 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: almost feel like it's too So that's that's a draw. 397 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 4: You know. 398 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: It felt like he was really appreciative of everything we had, 399 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: and it's just Diden't talking to you know, him and 400 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: some of the guys and his team. You feel like 401 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: you're in a pretty good spot kind of between us 402 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: and the Dodgers and didn't work out, you know what 403 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: I mean. It's uh, you always try to put your 404 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: best foot forward when you think a player is going 405 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: to help your organization. He's definitely one of those guys 406 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: and I know he's hurt now, but seems to look 407 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: like he has a really bright future ahead of him. 408 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: And are you disappointed you miss out on some guys? 409 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. 410 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: You know it's it happens to everybody, and it's been 411 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: cool to kind of go you know, we went through 412 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: with show Hey the year before, you know, not to 413 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: that extent we did with Sasaki, but it's cool to 414 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: kind of you know, you get to hear yourself talk 415 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: about your organization a little bit and you feel good 416 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: about it, and you feel good about the process you 417 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: go through and the presentation you can give and kind 418 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: of what you can offer a player. And sometimes it 419 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: doesn't work out. But that that thing in the it 420 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: was pretty. 421 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 4: It was pretty. 422 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: It was a lot of planning, a lot of people involved, 423 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: and I thought we showed really well and it didn't 424 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: work out. 425 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: What would you do differently? What did you learn from 426 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 3: the experience because you're going to have to court and 427 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: woo another player, how would you do it differently? 428 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, man. I mean, it's it's again. It 429 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: wasn't me driving it. I was here kind of supporting it, 430 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: but it's I've I've been through it a couple of times, 431 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: and you know, you kind of do you compare it 432 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: to what other teams are doing? Sure, you know, I 433 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: think that when it comes down to free agents especially, 434 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much more that goes into it 435 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: other than you know, yes, money and what are you 436 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: going to do for my family? Where do I where 437 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: do I live in proximity to the city. There's so 438 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: much stuff that goes into it. Sasaki's case was a 439 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: little bit different because he was, you know, so young 440 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: and still you know, knowing that he wanted to be 441 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: here in the States when his best years were here 442 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: as opposed to coming from Japan. That was the most 443 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: interesting thing about him was, you know, I want to 444 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: have a couple of years under my belt before I 445 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: kind of hit my prime and be adjusted to this league. 446 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: So to do differently, man, I'm I don't know. It's 447 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: it seems like, you know, every every presentation that I've 448 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: sat through with players and it's a very attractive place 449 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: to come. Again, this is the only spot I know, 450 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: but it's not quite sure what else you could do, 451 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 1: and you know, you feel like you put your best 452 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: foot forward. Sometimes it's just not a match for the player. 453 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: For a variety of reasons, But I don't know if 454 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: we could have done anything different, maybe not have snow 455 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: on the ground in the winter when guys are coming 456 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: up here. I swear I was just gonna say seventy 457 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: five and sonning every day. 458 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 4: I don't know. 459 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: There were some built in disadvantage just to start. So 460 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 2: I feel like the pitch obviously definitely got you to 461 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: a place much further than most. But yeah, you can't 462 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 2: change the weather. You can't change the location. If he 463 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: wants a few hours knocked off the flight, you can't 464 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: do that, right, all right, I want to I want 465 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: to take you to a current event here. So and 466 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: it's a two parter. We had Ryan O'Hearn on the 467 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: other day, who I'm sure you know well from facing him, 468 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: and he's an all star candidate as a DH. He 469 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: sent out a personal thank you to Craig Breslow for 470 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 2: trading away Raffieldevers and opening up the DH spot. Do 471 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: you have a similar vibe, because hey, I mean, this 472 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: is the guy who has terrorized the division with his 473 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: bat for a while and now you're not going to 474 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: see him as much when you see news like that, 475 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: just genuinely as someone who wants to win games. Do 476 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: you get a little excited. 477 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: I mean, they still have a good team. 478 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: They got they got a few guys that have hit 479 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: as well, you know, and they got some young guys 480 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: that are pretty exciting. But yeah, it kind of caught 481 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: us off guard. Carlos Fabulis, third base coach. He knows, 482 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, being in Boston for a number of years, 483 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: he knows Raf and all those guys fairly well. We 484 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: were a little surprised. You know, Brez did play for 485 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: me in twenty eighteen. I don't know if anyone knows this. 486 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: He was on the fisher Cats roster in twenty eighteen 487 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: in the Bolt and he was commuting back and forth 488 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: through his house basically every day, and and then bumped 489 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: up to Triple A probably, but I think a month 490 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: end of the season. So maybe I left, you know, 491 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: left him, you know, with some good vibes and said, yeah, 492 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: let's get rap out of the division. 493 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but it's. 494 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: Uh, it's uh yeah, it's it was a It was 495 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: a big trade, you know, and you know, it's kind 496 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: of that time of year and I know teams are 497 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: just trying to make themselves better, but it is nice. 498 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 4: I think when you when. 499 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: You look over at a division rival and a guy 500 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: that's really handled you pretty well, and a lot of 501 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: people in the division, you don't really have to deal 502 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: with them for as many times as you had thought. 503 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's kind of like a couple of years 504 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: ago people are asking me, you know, are you are 505 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: you hoping Aaron Judge signs with the Giants, And it's like, yeah, absolutely, 506 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: you know it's I'm not I'm not gonna lie. 507 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 4: So it's it is. 508 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: It is a different thing. It's a different look to 509 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: their lineup, but there's still a pretty damn good team. 510 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, like everyone to the nationally, go for it, have 511 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: a great time. 512 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 4: Out there, get out there. 513 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, go West. Second part of the question, what 514 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: did you think of what happened there? Like, not that 515 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 2: you've necessarily come across any examples like that, but how 516 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 2: delicate the communication process can be, because you know, we 517 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: it's been probably the number one drama saga of the year. 518 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 2: I would say, from like a superstar player battling with 519 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: an organization, there were so many levels owner goes to 520 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: meet with him, all of that. So when you're observing that, 521 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: can you take anything away from that because the only 522 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: thing I don't know if you know Raf personally, but 523 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: he's not Manny Ramirez for lack of a better term, 524 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: Like he's like the quiet kid in the corner. Usually 525 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: he's just smiling and having a good time. And now 526 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 2: half the fans think that he's a villain. 527 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 1: Right, It's it's funny, man being in this seat. You know, 528 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: it's different than what you expect, I think when you 529 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: first get into it, right, so I can remember just 530 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago where you know, you think 531 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: you're you're in touch with everything and everyone and you're 532 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: trying to please everybody, and you could just never lose 533 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: the the communication with the players. I mean, even if 534 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: it's just like a brutal conversation, you know, it's it happens. 535 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: And whether it's you know, different ownership in Boston and 536 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: it's a high profile organization obviously with a really passionate 537 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: fan base. I don't know, you try to learn from 538 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: it and just say okay there. I think every team 539 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: goes through something like this, you know, and and every 540 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: year and just sometimes it's not as big or or 541 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: not as public, you know what I mean. There's always 542 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: there's always kind of like an undercurrent, you know. So 543 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: what you take from it is you've got to be 544 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: as open and transparent as you possibly can be, and 545 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: it takes a lot of work. It takes a lot 546 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: of work in the off season. I've learned that from 547 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: Ross and Mark specifically over the past couple of years, 548 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: and it's something that I've tried to do more of, 549 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: was try to be more connected in the off season 550 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: with the guys and the staff and their families and 551 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: certainly the expectations of what we're looking at the next year. 552 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: And it takes time, and it takes reps. Man, it's hard, 553 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: you know, because every person's a little bit different. So 554 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: what you learn from it is just try to just 555 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: try to keep the lines of communication open. And you know, 556 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: again I'm biased because I've only been here. I feel 557 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: like we do a really good job of that, and 558 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: I know that, you know, there's always room for me 559 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: and everyone to improve, but it's something you want to avoid. 560 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: And when you're a big when your big name team, 561 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: big name market franchise, and there's going to be tons 562 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: of people uncovering things or conversations that may have happened 563 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: or not happened it kind of just adds fueled the fire, 564 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: which sucks. But it's I know Brez. I don't want 565 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: to say I know him really well. I know him 566 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: fairly well, and he's, you know, one of the brightest 567 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: guys you know in the game obviously, and I think 568 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: he's just trying to do what's right now and for 569 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: the team long term. 570 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 4: So you got to just keep the communication open. 571 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: I guess it is the best way to put it, 572 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: and hopefully you don't run into those spots. 573 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 3: All right. Last two things, just more comments than anything. 574 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: You broke breas you broke him. His numbers were brutal. 575 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 3: You sent him up the Triple A. He wasn't ready. 576 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 3: He was like thirteen years older than the average age 577 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: person when you had him. You broke him, so he's 578 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: not doing you any favors. 579 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't think it was before the three batter minimum. 580 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: He was coming in to face like one less ye 581 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: like three times a week and then going home to 582 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: have a glass of wine, and. 583 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: It broke him. 584 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think it was me. 585 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: He had He had rap Soto and track Man kind 586 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: of before it was even popular. He had it in 587 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: our bullpen and he was like making pitches up on 588 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: the fly and talking about horizontal movement and things like that. 589 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: We weren't even you know, we didn't know what it meant. 590 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: So I'll blame I forget who was a triple A 591 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: pitching coach at that time, But we can blame him, 592 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: not me. 593 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, it might have been Horseman. I don't know 594 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 3: who it was, but anyway it might have been. It 595 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 3: might have been Paul Elliott. But I'm gonna say that 596 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 3: name only to say that when you stay two more years, 597 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: pabably that it's a name that only Schneid and I 598 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 3: know because we were roommates. Like the last time we 599 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 3: talked about it, what's the gift that you want from 600 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 3: the Blue Jays for your diamond anniversary of being with 601 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 3: the Blue Jays when you have your twenty fifth year 602 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: in the organization. We were drafted together in two thousand 603 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 3: and two, and he was He was a player, and 604 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 3: then he became a coach, and then he became a manager, 605 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: and then he became the big league manager. But what 606 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 3: do you want? What gift do you want? Do you 607 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 3: want a Harley? Do you want do you want a diamond? 608 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 4: Oh? Man? 609 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty five. I'll be next year, which is pretty crazy. 610 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'll have to call it. I'll 611 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: throw out another name for it. Dennis Holmberg. You know, 612 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: he was our first prosser and he was like the 613 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: big collector of like the watches, the pins, the rings. 614 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: Don't know, twenty five years and you kind of covered 615 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: everywhere from rookie ball manager to big league manager. 616 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I don't know. 617 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a Harley guy, not a motorcycle guy, so 618 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: I like, you know, I like a nice truck. 619 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 4: You know that might might not be too bad, you. 620 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: Know, just throwing it out there, and you probably know 621 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: more people than I do. Cratzy, just you know, sending 622 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: that out there. Nice you know, GMC or Chevy trucks. 623 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm pretty easy. 624 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go a truck and then Laddie, which 625 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: was the gift before that that he's. 626 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: Got already got it. He got his Laddie. 627 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 2: That was the pre gift. 628 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 3: He got his Laddie. So now Schneid's is gonna have 629 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: to be extended because it's a coat. He's gonna be 630 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 3: on his coach and then and then you can have 631 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 3: your you can have you can have your license plate 632 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 3: that says thanks Vlad, and it would be your your 633 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 3: your license plate on your truck will just say thanks Blad. 634 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: Right, I mean I've done I've followed him around, threw 635 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: him in the derby, you know what I mean, riding 636 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: his coat tails and you know I tried to get 637 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: the four years included for me. 638 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 4: It didn't work out. But have Ben for sure locked 639 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 4: up for. 640 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 2: The organization good dinners at the least. Well, Schneid's great 641 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 2: to have you back on. Appreciate the time. Keep doing 642 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: your thing. Teams looking great, great catching. 643 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 4: Up, appreciate it. Thanks guys, good catching up.