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Speaker 2: Jason Martin, How you doing man?

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Speaker 4: Everything good, Everything's good. We got some storms that kind

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Speaker 4: of had us worried over the last couple of days,

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Speaker 4: but seems like most of that just didn't transpire at

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Speaker 4: least in the way that we thought. So power has

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Speaker 4: stayed on. Everything's been good. SEC tournament was on fire.

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Speaker 4: It has been the entire week, but some great semi

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Speaker 4: final games outside of it, like Florida's just decided. I

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Speaker 4: think they want a mercy rule everybody they're so that's

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Speaker 4: kind of wild actually just how well they are playing

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Speaker 4: right now. But sets up a great final. But there's

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Speaker 4: been great ball all day. The Big Ten tournament was

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Speaker 4: was a blast, obviously with a little bit of controversy

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Speaker 4: there at the end of the Michigan State game. SEC

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Speaker 4: was a blast. And of course Duke does what Duke does,

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Speaker 4: whether it's Coach K or whether it's John Shire. They

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Speaker 4: win the ACC first of all, a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me say this about Duke, by the way,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's interesting on a day that Kyle Neptune,

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Speaker 2: the Villanova coach, was let go. Basically we can make

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Speaker 2: fun of Coach K. You know, Coach K was kind

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Speaker 2: of the guy that you know, you picked on and whatever.

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Speaker 2: That's basically the only place that the handed off to

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Speaker 3: Like I was thinking about that today.

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Speaker 2: And this isn't necessarily like a a topic that you

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Speaker 2: lead to show with, but Duke did just win the

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Speaker 2: ACC title without Cooper flag. But I was thinking about

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Speaker 2: it is you know, North Carolina, you and I spoke

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Speaker 2: about last night when we were filling in for Jason

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Speaker 2: I think best case scenario, they're probably going to dat

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Speaker 3: But Hebert Davis replaces.

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Speaker 2: Roy Williams, and I know he has made a final four,

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Speaker 2: but he also very well could miss a second NCAA

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Speaker 2: tournament in three years. At North Carolina, that's not acceptable.

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Speaker 2: Beaheim handed it off to his lead assistant. Syracuse is

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Speaker 2: a total train wreck. And then of course Villanova Kyle

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Speaker 2: Neptune was Jay Wright's hand picked replacement, And so I

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Speaker 2: was just thinking about all those other places kind of

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Speaker 2: a mess except at Duke, where listen, I'll credit John

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Speaker 3: I know it's Duke.

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Speaker 2: I know you have access to players that a lot

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Speaker 2: of other people don't, But if you can't see that

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Speaker 2: this is a complete team. They just beat Louisville to

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you.

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Speaker 2: I know everybody wants Duke to stink, and you know,

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Speaker 2: wants to make fun of Duke they're awesome, they get

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Speaker 2: you know, there really has been at least early no

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Speaker 2: and again considering what all these other schools look like,

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Speaker 4: And he's also adapted to what college basketball has become

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Speaker 4: Coach K and learned his tendencies and learned how he led.

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Speaker 4: It's not just about what you're doing during that forty

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Speaker 4: done a very nice job, and they've done it in

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Speaker 4: news for everybody that was hoping Duke was going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember, you know, you and I were doing

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Speaker 2: I love college basketball. You love college basketball, but I

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Speaker 2: But I remember having the conversation of, like, the best

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Speaker 2: He hasn't made a Final four yet, he hasn't won

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Speaker 2: Other thing too is that, you know, we talk so

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Speaker 3: I just I'm not gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: I think for him it's some of it is an

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Speaker 3: And so with Duke, it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: But I think the thing that Shier has done well

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Speaker 2: Seon James is a guard from Tulane that listen, I

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Speaker 2: But you mentioned kind of embracing anil. You've mentioned embracing

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Speaker 2: he's close to one hundred percent, say by the sweet sixteen,

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Speaker 2: and of course the assumption being that they haven't lost

438
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,479
Speaker 2: at that point. Do you do you think Duke's the favorite?

439
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 2: I mean, where do you stand on them at full strength?

440
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 2: Thirty one and three, as I said, a grand total

441
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,919
Speaker 2: of one loss since since the last week in November,

442
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 2: which is kind of crazy.

443
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think I do. I feel like

444
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 4: college basketball is, it's deep with teams that, like my

445
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 4: wife asked me, because she's a Tennessee fan, she asked

446
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 4: me this evening. She said, you know, do you think

447
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 4: this is their best team? Do you think this is

448
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 4: their best shot to win? And I stopped and I said, well,

449
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 4: I mean, the connect team last year was really good,

450
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 4: but their chances of beaten Purdue were kind of slim

451
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 4: because of the way Zach Edy just takes up so

452
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 4: much space and ends up with the free throw one

453
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 4: hundred times and all this. But they played them tight.

454
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 4: That was a great basketball game. And there've been a

455
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 4: couple of other good Tennessee teams, but I was trying

456
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 4: to argue, I said, they're one of a handful of

457
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 4: teams that I feel like their fans can legit believe

458
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 4: they can win it all. Sure, And I don't know

459
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 4: exactly how many teams that is, but it does feel

460
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 4: like it's deeper this year with good teams. I don't

461
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 4: mean that nobody is good and so everybody is sort

462
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 4: of you know, average or whatever. I think all these

463
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 4: teams can be beaten because we've seen it. But I

464
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 4: guess I would give dukena noad, but not by a lot.

465
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Speaker 4: I just I think that there are several teams that

466
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 4: are good enough to get through this tournament. But yeah,

467
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 4: I mean, if flag is available and he is healthy,

468
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 4: with what he does for you and how he changes

469
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 4: the game in a way that kind of nobody else

470
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 4: does in college basketball, I think that I would give

471
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Speaker 4: them the nod.

472
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I'll just say this as far as as

473
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Speaker 2: a duke is concerned, and really as far as what

474
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Speaker 2: you said is concerned, because you know, this time of year,

475
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: a lot of people are asking, oh, who's the you know,

476
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: thirteen seed or fourteen seed, or who's this year is

477
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 2: Florida Atlantic? And you know, my kind of stock answer

478
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 2: has kind of been what you just said, is like,

479
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: I don't know that we're going to have like a

480
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 2: thirteen seed in the Elite eight going to the Final four.

481
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Speaker 2: But you look at some of these teams that could

482
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Speaker 2: be on like that seven, eight, nine seed line, Like

483
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 2: you know, you could make fun of coach Callen Arkansas,

484
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 2: but it's like that's a team full of pros that

485
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 2: went to Rupperena in one, you know, beat seven or

486
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 2: eight tournament teams in the SEC. Like that's a team

487
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Speaker 2: that as a as an eight, nine, ten seed, could

488
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: could cause problems. You know, I'm just looking at some

489
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: of these other brackets. You know, like I said, Yukon

490
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 2: potentially being an eight seed, Like do I think if

491
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: they match up with Duke that they match up?

492
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Speaker 3: Well, No, I don't.

493
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 2: But do I think that you know, a different number

494
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: one or if they're a seven and somebody else's a two,

495
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: can they win one game to get to a Sweet sixteen?

496
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

497
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: Byu By the way, playing really well, they had won

498
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 2: nine straight before they lost to before they lost to

499
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 2: Houston yesterday, They're probably about a six seed. So you know,

500
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: I think the group of teams that can actually win

501
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 2: the championship is always probably a little bit smaller than

502
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 2: people think. But I think the group of teams that

503
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 2: could be in that like five to nine range that

504
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 2: could just absolutely recavoc on a bracket is probably a

505
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: little bit bigger than it is some other year.

506
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Speaker 1: Stream Mark.

507
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's tournament ought to be really good.

508
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 4: I just I feel like college basketball has maybe it's

509
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 4: me and you watch it closer than just about anybody.

510
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 4: I just feel like this year I have found myself

511
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 4: more impressed with the quality of basketball that I've seen.

512
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 4: You know, now I live in SEC Territory, so I've

513
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 4: seen a really good conference obviously, but I mean a

514
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 4: Big Ten and the Big East, and you know, there's

515
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 4: just been a lot of great games and there's been

516
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 4: a lot of depth to be found this year across

517
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 4: the country. And it seems to me to pourtend to

518
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 4: be a tournament with a high skill level.

519
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 2: So a couple things on that really quick and then

520
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: we will get to Di Seger. But so it's really

521
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Speaker 2: interesting because I was watching Florida Alabama, and first of all,

522
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: I do think at the top of the sport, I

523
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Speaker 2: think the quality is better. And it's two reasons that

524
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 2: go hand in hand. Is that one. First of all,

525
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 2: there's just more players coming back now. I was talking

526
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Speaker 2: to Brandon Deuts, who's a huge basketball fan in the back,

527
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: is like, if you're a second round pick now, like five, six, seven,

528
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: eight years ago, you just went pro, You're just like,

529
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Speaker 2: I can't make money in college or you know, you know,

530
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Speaker 2: wink wink, I can't make money in college. I'm gonna

531
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Speaker 2: go I might get drafted, I might not. I'm just

532
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Speaker 2: gonna start my pro career.

533
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Speaker 7: Now.

534
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Speaker 2: It's like, you look across college basketball. The number of

535
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Speaker 2: guys that are just like I can't make more money

536
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 2: being a college basketball player is astronomical. And so I

537
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: saw a stat of I don't know exactly what the

538
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: number was, but I believe last year's NBA draft had

539
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: the fewest underclassmen, so players that have eligibility that entered

540
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: the draft and went undrafted basically in like thirty five years,

541
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Speaker 2: basically sin since players that could go pro. You know,

542
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Speaker 2: I know, we always had the Magic Johnson or the

543
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: whoever that you know, like the all time great guys

544
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 2: would leave after three years, two years, whatever, but we

545
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: all know that for about fifteen years, it just became hey,

546
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Speaker 2: if I might get drafted.

547
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go because there's money to be made

548
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 3: as a pro. So there's that.

549
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Speaker 2: And then I think, as much as the transfer portal

550
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Speaker 2: is kind of an unregulated mess, and we all know

551
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Speaker 2: it is, and it's the topic of conversation every time

552
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 2: we talk, portal, like it does allow these teams to

553
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: really put together really good teams. I mean one, you know,

554
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: you look at Florida, like basically you look at all

555
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: these teams. I mean Mark Sears TRANSFERR series.

556
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Speaker 4: His first guy I was thinking of as a matter

557
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 4: of fact, Yeah.

558
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: Walter Clayton, Florida, all American transfer. You know, Jani Broom

559
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: from Auburn transfer. But I so, I so. But what

560
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 2: I think has really happened is that, like we just

561
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: talked about Duke, the fact that they got a bunch

562
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,239
Speaker 2: of veterans where it's like three four years ago, it's like, oh,

563
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: you lose a bunch of guys to the NBA Draft.

564
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: It's like, well, if you don't have those five star

565
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: guys ready to go, you're kind of screwed, you know.

566
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: And it's like now you just you know, you find

567
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: two or three veterans in the portal to bring with them.

568
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: So it was funny because I was watching the Alabama

569
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: Florida game today, and I know that's an extreme two

570
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 2: top five teams all season long. I get that, but

571
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 2: I was like, you know the way, you know how

572
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: like in the NBA, and and this is this was

573
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: a big thing in my buddy JJ Reddick before before

574
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: he became a coach, was He's like, you guys stalgize

575
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: the nineties in the NBA, and it's like, if you

576
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 2: actually go back and watch those games, I don't think

577
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: we're quite there with college basketball. Listen, I know college

578
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: basketball was better when Patrick Ewing played four years and

579
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: achem Olajuan played three or four years. And you know,

580
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: even when I was growing up in the nineties, Ray

581
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: Allen played three years and Iverson played two and whatever.

582
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 4: But I mean, I mean, we had Latner play his

583
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 4: whole career and Danny Manning played his whole career in

584
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 4: eighty eight, and it was just a different time and

585
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 4: it was better. I mean, remember the UNLV team of

586
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 4: ninety and ninety one. I mean you got to get

587
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 4: to know those guys a lot before Augman and Larry

588
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 4: Johnson and those guys went pro.

589
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 2: And yeah, and all I was gonna say, was I'm

590
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 2: not naive enough to think that this is better. But

591
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: I think the quality of basketball is actually probably gotten

592
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: to the point where it's a little bit better than

593
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: we're giving it credit for. And I understand if you're

594
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: a casual sports fan that follows your NFL team and

595
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: you have an NBA team, but you don't what I

596
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: understand that the All Americans aren't staying three or four

597
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: years and you don't know them the way that you

598
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: knew Larry Johnson or.

599
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: You knew Christian Latner.

600
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Speaker 2: But I guess the only point I was gonna make,

601
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 2: J mart Is, I do think the quality of basketball,

602
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: to your point, is probably a little bit better overall

603
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 2: than people give it credit for.

604
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I've just I've enjoyed this season, maybe

605
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 4: more than I expected to when it started. I've caught

606
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 4: myself just enjoying watching college basketball more the way that

607
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 4: I used to. And look where I grew up on

608
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 4: Tobacco Road. It's just it's been part of my background.

609
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 4: It's been part of something that mattered to me a

610
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 4: tremendous amount. And I do think that for a time there,

611
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 4: I just lost a lot of passion for it, and

612
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 4: it's this year kind of brought it back. I mean,

613
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 4: obviously you get into the tournament, you get into all

614
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: that stuff, but like I watched the good bit of

615
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 4: regular season ball this year, and I just enjoyed a

616
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 4: lot of it, more so than I was expecting to.

617
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 4: And that's a positive. And it does make me really

618
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: excited for this tournament because I just think we have

619
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Speaker 4: the potential for some great games.

620
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 3: We have some poten for some great games.

621
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Speaker 2: Had a great, great, great couple days of conference tournaments

622
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Speaker 2: and of course, uh bracket coming out at six pm

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Speaker 2: Eastern tomorrow. This is Fox Sports Radio eritors Jason Martin

624
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Speaker 2: broadcasting that I from the tirec dot Com studios come

625
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: back talk about the Biggiest Championship where Rick Patino an

626
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: interesting debate and conversation about him.

627
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Speaker 3: We'll do that next. Before we do though news desk first.

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Speaker 2: Time this evening to Sega, can you give us the

629
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: score from every single game today off the top of

630
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Speaker 2: your head?

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Speaker 7: Go yes, it's right in front of me. Yes, No,

632
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Speaker 7: I said, off.

633
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 4: Past to head.

634
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: You can't just look at a piece of paper.

635
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Speaker 7: Note. That's why we have notes in the news business. Okay,

636
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 7: for accuracy. Yeah, as for Cinderellas, we had a chance

637
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 7: at Cinderella winning in the late NBA game. I know

638
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 7: we've got four late conference finals and we'll get to

639
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 7: those in a moment in college basketball.

640
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: But it's called the New York Knicks of Cinderella.

641
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 7: No, it's the game at Denver. Do you recall last

642
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 7: night when we were all on the air together. Denver

643
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 7: was facing a Lakers team that was referred to as

644
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Speaker 7: the South Bay Lakers because we say mostly minor league lineup,

645
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Speaker 7: and somehow the Lakers led in the final minute, Denver

646
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 7: escaped at home. Well, they're facing the Washington Wizards, who

647
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 7: for much of the NBA season has been something of

648
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 7: a minor league lineup record of fourteen and fifty one

649
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 7: coming in and yet tie game final seconds in Denver,

650
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Speaker 7: Washington ready to inbound were Title.

651
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Speaker 4: One twenty three.

652
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Speaker 2: Coolst He lets it around, how to TV legacy game.

653
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Speaker 4: Won twenty three.

654
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Speaker 3: We'll be telling our grandkids about that now.

655
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 7: He took the inbounds and basically said, Hey, my guy's

656
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 7: not guarding me because I'm so far out. I've got

657
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 7: a little space here, and from thirty five feet out

658
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 7: he drained it and Washington wins. At Denver, Yes won

659
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 7: twenty six one twenty three despite forty points from Nikola Jokic.

660
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 7: Golden State won at seventh straight, edging New York ninety

661
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 7: seven to ninety four. Houston won at six and beating

662
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 7: Chicago one seventeen to one fourteen. Oklahoma City won at

663
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 7: Detroit one thirteen, one oh seven. Shay Gilgess Alexander forty

664
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 7: eight points wins for Memphis and Milwaukee. Wins for San

665
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 7: Antonio and Boston, which won at Brooklyn won fifteen one thirteen,

666
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 7: but the Celtics Jalen Brown left with backspasms. For the Nets,

667
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 7: Cam Thomas is out for the season with a strained hamstring.

668
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 7: Now to college hoops and the four late games. Congratulations

669
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 7: to Liberty in Conference USA now and champions of that tournament,

670
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 7: beating Jacksonville State just a moment ago, seventy nine to

671
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 7: sixty seven. They're in the final seconds of the SWACK

672
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 7: championship game. Alabama State has taken the lead fifty six

673
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 7: fifty three over Jackson State, the two seed. It's under

674
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 7: twenty seconds to go in that game, and we're at

675
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 7: five seconds to go. In the Big West Championship. Top

676
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 7: seed U SEE San Diego is gonna win it. They're

677
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 7: up on UC Irvine seventy three fifty eight. The late

678
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 7: game is just minutes away in Las Vegas. It's the

679
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 7: Whack Tournament final. First place Utah Valley against Grand Canyon.

680
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 7: Akron on a basket with two seconds to go won

681
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 7: the MAC Final against Miami Ohio seventy six seventy four.

682
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 7: Norfolk State on a late free throw won the MEAC

683
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 7: sixty six sixty five against South Carolina State. Other conference

684
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 7: final winners Colorado States, Mount Saint Mary's and Bryant.

685
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 5: Yes.

686
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 7: Saint John's won the Big East. They were first place

687
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 7: regular season eighty two to sixty six the final over

688
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 7: Creighton despite trailing at the half. Houston was first place

689
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 7: regular season and won the Big Twelve final tonight against

690
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 7: Arizona seventy two to sixty four. And number one Duke

691
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 7: beat Louisville in a comeback. Yes trailed at halftime but

692
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 7: beat the Cardinals seventy three sixty two to win the

693
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 7: ACC Tournament. Villanova fired coach Kyle Neptune, UNLV fired coach

694
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 7: Kevin Krueger. JJ SPAWN leads by one stroke at the

695
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 7: Players Championship. The final round of live golf going on

696
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 7: right now in Singapore. Brooks Koepka is in second place,

697
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 7: but now five strokes behind the leader, who's midway through

698
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 7: his final round, Joaqin Neeman. And we've got a Dodger

699
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 7: exhibition at the Tokyo Dome going on right now. Third inning,

700
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 7: Dodger scoreless against the han Shin Tigers. Blake Snell on

701
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 7: the mound. Tyler glasnow will follow him very early this

702
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 7: morning our time. The Dodgers won their first of the

703
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 7: weekend exhibitions there, beating the Tokyo Giants five to one

704
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 7: as Sho hey Otani homer it in a five run

705
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 7: third inning.

706
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: Back to you, Dodger's not getting no hit like the

707
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: Cubs yesterday, right.

708
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, Cubs had zero offense the first five innings, wound

709
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 7: up getting shut out by this Hanshin Tigers team the

710
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 7: Dodgers are facing.

711
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: I know that.

712
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 4: By the way, I don't consider that live golf event reel.

713
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 4: And since it's in Singapore, what are you against because

714
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 4: they're wearing shorts.

715
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: I saw this yesterday.

716
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too, because it was happening during our show,

717
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 4: yes and so I flipped it over and I watched it.

718
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 4: I saw this, so just like, okay, well if we're

719
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 4: not if we're not serious enough to wear full pants,

720
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 4: then I'm not serious enough to declare this any kind

721
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: of a real sport.

722
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 7: Now, if the golf tournament is in Bermuda, can they

723
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 7: wear shorts?

724
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: No?

725
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 7: Bermuda shorts?

726
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: No?

727
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: I get it. I knew, I knew what you were doing.

728
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 4: I'm just suggesting. No, there must be some kind of

729
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 4: decorum present in some way, like if you if you

730
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: can't wear slacks, if you can't wear full pants. I

731
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: saw Phil Mickelson out there and some khaki shorts. You know,

732
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 4: maybe it's black shorts. I was just like, nah, man, like,

733
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: this is not real because the country club, this is

734
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: batting practice rules.

735
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: We had it on in studio and I was like

736
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: watching it.

737
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: I was I couldn't figure out something didn't look right,

738
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: and it took me about ten minutes. Admittedly we were

739
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: doing a show, so I wasn't paying that close attention.

740
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: It took me ten minutes to figure out that they

741
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: were wearing shorts. Fox Sports Radio Tours and Martin taking

742
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: you till two am Eastern will come back an interesting

743
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: conversation about Rick Patino and oh, by the way, an

744
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: interesting conversation about Aaron Rodgers.

745
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: That's all next.

746
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio.

747
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: Oh I'm hot today, hich everybody.

748
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Aeric Torris jes Martin broadcasting live from

749
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: theesireak dot com studios. We've talked a lot about Duke

750
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: and the rest of the bracket, but maybe the best

751
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: story in college basketball this season got yet another chapter

752
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: written at Madison Square Garden this evening on Fox. Saint

753
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: John's had not won an Outright League title since nineteen

754
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 2: eighty five in the regular season, was going for their

755
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 2: first conference tournament title since two thousand.

756
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 3: This is how it sounded.

757
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 8: This is a big great for Saint John's, says, Saint

758
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 8: John's won the Outright regular season title. They're the biggest

759
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 8: tournament winner. You know who your big eight champions are.

760
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 8: Saint John's defeats Freighton eighty two sixty six in the

761
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 8: title game.

762
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: That courtesy of Saint John's Radio network.

763
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 2: By the way, I loved the New York accent from

764
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: our radio partners there, uh Patino. So I saw this

765
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: from Dan Wetzel earlier in the word, and I think

766
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: there's something to it J Mark. This is now the

767
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: sixth team that Rick Patino will take to the NCAA Tournament.

768
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: This is now the fifth team that program, not team

769
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: as an individual team. Six programs he's taken to an

770
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament, five that he's won a league title at.

771
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 2: By the way, the only one he didn't win a

772
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: league title at was Providence, who he took to the

773
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: final four. Freaking Providence. Dan Wetzel made the argument, I

774
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: think there's something to it. Rick Patino will never have

775
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 2: the stats of coach k or John Wooden or whomever.

776
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: He might be the greatest guy to ever wear a

777
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: whistle on a college basketball sideline.

778
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 4: It's so funny because when I was watching Saint John's

779
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 4: in the semi final, I caught myself towards the end

780
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 4: of that game, thinking, man, where does this guy? Where

781
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 4: is it possible for this guy not to win? And

782
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 4: then you mentioned us doing this topic earlier when we

783
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 4: were just kind of spitballing this afternoon, and it was

784
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 4: just kind of like, yeah, I mean, that's exactly where

785
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 4: I was too. The argument can be made now, Let's

786
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 4: say coach k Lee's duke and he ends up taking

787
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 4: some of the jobs Rick Patino takes. I feel like

788
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 4: he still would have been successful. I do, but at

789
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 4: the same time, like it's amazing. I mean, Iona and

790
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 4: certainly Louisville and Kentucky. He went to places that had

791
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 4: all sorts of tradition and he won there. He like

792
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: you mentioned, Providence, not a team you usually think about

793
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 4: when it comes to the final four. He gets them there.

794
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 4: And now Saint John's who, I mean, the last Saint

795
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: John's guy that you really think about is Carnaseca. I mean, yeah,

796
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: they have Mike Jarvis for a while and he did

797
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 4: an okay job, But like Saint John's even last year

798
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 4: was not anything that anybody was talking about. But like

799
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 4: within two years, Rick Patino's got them winning a conference.

800
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 4: Going into this tournament being one of those teams you

801
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: probably don't want to see. Maybe they're not the most talented,

802
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 4: but who wants to play a Rick Patino coach team

803
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 4: in March, I would say almost no one. So I

804
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 4: don't know that you would end up saying, yes, he's

805
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 4: the best. But to make that argument, and what's often

806
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 4: makes great arguments, it's absolutely worthy of discussion just because

807
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 4: of the level of success that he has achieved no

808
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: matter where he's been.

809
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's one. I just think because of the

810
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: way he's wired. I don't know that he was ever

811
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: built to be somewhere forty years like coach k was.

812
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 2: But it is one of the great hypotheticals.

813
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: You know.

814
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: He leaves Kentucky in nineteen ninety seven for the Boston Celtics,

815
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: coming off back to back national championship games, won a

816
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: title in ninety six, goes back to the title game

817
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 2: in ninety seven, the team wins in ninety eight with.

818
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 3: All of his players.

819
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 2: So what we've seen a duke the last thirty years

820
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: he was in the process of building at Kentucky. Again,

821
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: we'll never know, he'll never have the raw stats, but

822
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 2: this is the sixth different team that he has taken.

823
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 2: I think the thing to j Mart that you just said,

824
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's the portal era or not.

825
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: In year two, like, it's one thing, Okay, year one,

826
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: you know, and if you remember last year, they were

827
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: right on the cusp of making the tournament. But you know,

828
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 2: it's one thing if okay, year two, you know, you

829
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: make the tournament as a seventh seed, and they destroyed

830
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: everybody like we're talking about all these teams. Duke has

831
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: only lost one game since this and one game since that.

832
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 2: Saint John's what two Big East losses total conference regular

833
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: season title for They split it for the first time

834
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: since ninety two, then won it outright for the first

835
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 2: time since eighty five. Oh, by the way, Big East

836
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: tournament champions as well. All right, so, J Mart, But

837
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: we were talking Patino, I'll tell you this. We were

838
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: talking about, you know, Providence. How about this. Six different

839
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: teams have gone to the NCAA tournament. Five under Patino's

840
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: watch have won a conference tournament. The only one that

841
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: he did not win a conference tournament at was Providence

842
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: goes to a final four and eight. First of all,

843
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: jmrt the fact that we're talking about nineteen eighty seven. Okay, Jay,

844
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how old you are, J Mart, I'll

845
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 2: tell you this. I'm about forty years old, Okay. So

846
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: I bring it up because you know, there are a couple

847
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: of grays are coming in on the side. Patino's been

848
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: doing this since I was essentially in DIPTE, and he's

849
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: still doing it at a high levels. And I think

850
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: the other thing too, is we were just talking about

851
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 2: with Saint John's is at Saint Like, you know, it'd

852
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: be one thing again if he comes back and in

853
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: year two, you know, makes a tournament whatever, or if

854
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: he came back in a place like a Yukon, like Kentucky,

855
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: like wherever where they've done it before. But this program

856
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: was dead for twenty years before he got there. I mean,

857
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: it just it's listen. I know he had a certainly

858
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: a controversial ending to his time at Louisville, but I

859
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: think this is one of the cool stories we've ever seen.

860
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 4: It's definitely impressive, There's no question about it. And to

861
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 4: answer your question, I was nine in nineteen eighty seven,

862
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: so a little older than you. Still in the forties,

863
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 4: but on the back half, on the back end of

864
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: the forties, and even I like, I mean, Patino's just

865
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 4: been kind of a fixture in the pasketball world that

866
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 4: I grew up in. No matter what and wherever he was,

867
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 4: whenever you see his name, you pay attention. You paid

868
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: attention to his son just because Patino was in the name,

869
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: and his son's not too shabby either. But yeah, Rick

870
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 4: Patino's is just I don't know, like to do this

871
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 4: at Saint John's. I want to see what they do

872
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 4: in the tournament, certainly, but just incredibly impressive by the

873
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 4: way I.

874
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 3: Was looking it up.

875
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: So since he made a final four and eighty seven

876
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: at Providence, you know, Province is one of those schools

877
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: you know, they've had some dudes and you kind of

878
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 2: think of, oh, they must they must have some pretty

879
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: good history, and like to a degree, they do. But

880
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 2: since he left in eighty seven, a grand total of

881
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: one Elite eight, which was ninety seven. So we're now

882
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: talking about twenty eight years ago, twenty nine years ago,

883
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: and two Sweet sixteens, And ironically, one of the Sweet

884
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: sixteens was in twenty twenty two. It was just a

885
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 2: few years ago. And I don't know if you've remember this, Jmart,

886
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: but it was the first time Providence had won a

887
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: regular season title maybe ever. Yeah, it was the first

888
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: time ever. And I remember it was such a celebration.

889
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: They lose in the sweet sixteen to Kansas. That was

890
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: near Kansas won the title, you know, four or five

891
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: years ago with Christian Brown and stuff. And I only

892
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: bring it up because, like, so this is a little

893
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: nerdy inside college basketball. But I remember seeing Ed Cooley,

894
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: the Providence coach at the final four, and it was

895
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: I don't know him, but I just saw him and

896
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: people were treating him like he had won a national championship.

897
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: And I think that gave me the perspective of how

898
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: hard it actually is.

899
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: To win at Providence.

900
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: But then beyond that, again Patino going to a final

901
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: four in eighty seven there, and again a Big East

902
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: title throughout earlier today, the first Big East Conference tournament

903
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: title since nineteen two thousand.

904
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 4: Excuse me, yeah, I mean, it's just an amazing accomplishment.

905
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 4: Regardless of where he ends up on the pantheon a

906
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 4: where you think he should be in terms of all

907
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 4: time college basketball coaches, he's certainly right there. He's certainly

908
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 4: going to be in the mixture in the discussion. Any

909
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: real discussion of the grace of all time is going

910
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 4: to have to include Rick Patino. And this is just

911
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 4: kind of the feather in the cap where it's just

912
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 4: like he's done this at this place as well, where

913
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 4: they have wanted something like this for so long and

914
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 4: it didn't take him long to go ahead and bring

915
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 4: it to him. It's a You're right, it is a

916
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: good story. It is I mean, everybody has flaws, no

917
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 4: question about that. But it's a good story and it's

918
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 4: great for that fan base that has been starving for

919
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: so long.

920
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll say this to you know growing up

921
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 2: in the Northeast. I know you grew up on Tobacco Road,

922
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: you know.

923
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 4: One.

924
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: First of all, I'll say this, I have been to

925
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: the Big East Tournament many times and it's a great event.

926
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: And New York City is actually a great It's a

927
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: great across the board sports town. And I think we

928
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: we think of, oh, you know, New York City is

929
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: only this, or it's only a Knicks town, or it's

930
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: only a Yankees town. It's like, no, it's a lot

931
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: of things. But you need a team. You need to

932
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 2: give a team a reason. You need to get fans

933
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: a reason to be engaged. So Saint John's, for the

934
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 2: first time in twenty five years, wins the Big East

935
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: Conference Tournament. Fox Sports Radio er tors Jason Martin, we

936
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: are taking you up till two am Eastern, Coming up,

937
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: Switch gears to the NFL Aaron Rodgers, Giants, Stealers or Vikings.

938
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Speaker 2: all right. J mart Our two of the show talked

959
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 2: to a lot of college basketball in hour one, as

960
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 2: the Segre just told you, Duke is officially your conference

961
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: tournament champs in the ACC. Houston wins the Big Twelve Tournament,

962
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: Saint John's wins the Big East, Colorado State wins the

963
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: Mountain West, among many others, and we will get back

964
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: to college basketball later on in the show. One conference

965
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: tournament is still going on. Utah Valley up against Grand

966
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: State Grand Canyon, excuse me, in the championship game of

967
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: the Whack in Vegas. We will keep you updated on

968
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: that one as well. What I do want to do though,

969
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: switch gears to the NFL. So it's been it's been

970
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: a busy week. If you missed j Martin and I

971
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: on Jason, Jason Smith and Mike Harmon yesterday we did

972
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: a fun little segment of the least impactful moves. It

973
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: feels like we're kind of at the bottom of the

974
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: barrel of things that actually matter. How much does Daniel

975
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 2: Jones to the culturally matter? How much does Sam Darnold

976
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: to the Minnesota or to the Seattle Seahawks really matter.

977
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: Joey Bosa can he stay healthy? DK Metcalf, who's throwing

978
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 2: him the football?

979
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: Well, the one.

980
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 2: Guy that remains certainly of interest to I think even

981
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: the most casual of sports fans, even if maybe he

982
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: isn't what he was four or five years ago.

983
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: That of course is Aaron Rodgers.

984
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: So it feels as though throughout most of the last

985
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: week or so, it has seemed that it was down

986
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: to a Giants versus Steelers. Opportunity for Aaron Rodgers is

987
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: obviously he's in New.

988
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: York right now. The Giants have the third pick in

989
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:00,240
Speaker 3: the draft.

990
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: Whether they don't believe that one of the two quarterbacks

991
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: is gonna fall to them, or they just don't like

992
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: either of the quarterbacks, feels like the Giants are interested,

993
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: and we also know that the Steelers are in need

994
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 2: of a quarterback with Justin Field's going to the Jets

995
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 2: and Russell Wilson a free agent as well. I bring

996
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 2: it up, j Mart, because you brought up on Jason

997
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: Smith Show yesterday. I want to give you credit because

998
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: you've been all over this story just to you know

999
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: that Minnesota Vikings, we don't we're not one hundred percent

1000
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: sure what's going on with their quarterback situation.

1001
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: Sam Donold, as I said, is in Seattle.

1002
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy coming off major knee surgery, and I guess

1003
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: the Athletic put out a story earlier in the afternoon

1004
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: today on Saturday. Jason, I know we're on Sunday on

1005
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: the East Coast, but Saturday the Athletic put out a

1006
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 2: story about Aaron Rodgers. Would love for you to share

1007
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 2: some details for an audience that maybe hasn't had a chance.

1008
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 5: To see it.

1009
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really interesting to me that this happened, because

1010
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 4: it did seem like everything was pointing towards just two

1011
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 4: teams being involved. And I threw that Vikings thing out

1012
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 4: there because it had been discussed during the course of

1013
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 4: the week, but it just seemed to have lost steam.

1014
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 4: And then so I mentioned that article to you this

1015
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 4: afternoon because it just stuck out. I was just looking

1016
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 4: to see what had happened in Free Agency during the

1017
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 4: course of the day. It didn't look like anything major

1018
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 4: had happened. And just because I mean, Luca got traded

1019
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 4: in the middle of our show on February the first,

1020
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 4: I'm now expecting Aaron Rodgers news to drop in about

1021
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 4: ten minutes, but I just wanted to know what had

1022
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 4: happened during the course of the day, and I see

1023
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 4: this article on the Athletic, and I go and look

1024
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 4: at it, and I also look at the timing of it,

1025
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 4: and it was like, at that point, just a few

1026
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 4: hours old, so it wasn't outdated, and it said, essentially,

1027
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is waiting for the Vikings to decide what

1028
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 4: they're going to do. He's not holding the other team's hostage.

1029
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 4: He wants to go to Minnesota, and the ball right

1030
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 4: now is in Kevin O'Connell's court, and so O'Connell is

1031
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 4: the one that is sort of weighing this, and if

1032
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 4: he decides, yeah, let's go with Aaron Rodgers this coming

1033
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 4: year and push back McCarthy one more year or whatever

1034
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 4: it's gonna be, then that's where he's gonna go, because

1035
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 4: that's he's made it clear apparently that's where he wants

1036
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 4: to go. And so Pittsburgh and New York are just

1037
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 4: kind of sitting there trying to figure out what's gonna

1038
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 4: happen from that, because should they decide to go with

1039
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy in Minnesota, then one of the two of

1040
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 4: them would seemingly be where Aaron Rodgers would choose. But

1041
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 4: he's not just seeing there, not making a decision. This

1042
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 4: article gives off a pretty clear impression that it's known

1043
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 4: he wants to go to Minnesota and he's just waiting

1044
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 4: for them to say yeay or nay.

1045
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: Very interesting, And I'll let me defend Aaron Rodgers a

1046
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: little bit here is that I will say I understand

1047
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 2: the argument of you know, it's a little obnoxious, what's

1048
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: taking so long?

1049
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 3: This that the other thing.

1050
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: I will also defend him and say though that I

1051
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: think we all understand that the Minnesota situation just obviously

1052
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: so much better than those other yews. And like, I'll

1053
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: be honest if I thought there was a chance that

1054
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 2: I could play for Kevin O'Connell as opposed to with

1055
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: no disrespect intended. But listen, Brian Dables on the hot seat.

1056
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 2: You know, Mike Tomlin, defensive head coach, you know, never

1057
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 2: been known as a quarterback developer. I would probably take

1058
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 2: advantage as well. So I miss some of what you said.

1059
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: But but so do we think Kevin o' so, Kevin

1060
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: O'Connell has some degree of interest obviously, right.

1061
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what that's what the article says. The article

1062
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 4: says that they believe in Minnesota that he can still play,

1063
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 4: that he still has good command with the ball. He's

1064
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 4: still got an arm, he's still got accuracy. You just

1065
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 4: have to he's got to have some things around him. Now,

1066
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 4: he's got to have some protection and he's got to

1067
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 4: have some weapons. And Minnesota believes that they have those things.

1068
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 4: So they're looking at that and they are enticed by

1069
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 4: what that could look like, and just the sheer fact

1070
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 4: that that's in the article, that that's under consideration, that

1071
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 4: they seriously do our weighing. This tells you that the

1072
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 4: McCarthy thing isn't quite as in stone as we thought,

1073
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 4: or maybe as you hoped. I mean, when you let

1074
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 4: Darnold go. It seems to indicate that unless you're also

1075
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 4: thinking about Aaron Rodgers as well, And maybe there's a

1076
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 4: maybe there's some middle ground to all of this. Maybe

1077
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 4: they do feel pretty comfortable in McCarthy, but they don't

1078
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 4: want to rush it back. Maybe the injury, who knows.

1079
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, but that was not

1080
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 4: the article I was expecting to find today, and it

1081
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,479
Speaker 4: kind of blew my mind.

1082
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of interesting because I'd be curious what's

1083
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: going on with JJ McCarthy, Because what's interesting about JJ

1084
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: McCarthy besides whatever, we all watched him play at Michigan.

1085
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: But what's interesting is, you know, he was brought in

1086
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: last year to be a starter, and so either in

1087
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: the very limited time that they had with him, he

1088
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: was nowhere near as good as they thought, or that

1089
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: injury recovery is not going nearly as well as planned.

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Speaker 2: Let me correct me if I'm wrong, Jmark, because I

1091
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: want to I'm doing this on the fly here. But

1092
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 2: it wasn't there a complication with the first injury?

1093
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 3: The yeah he needed? Yeah, here you go.

1094
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 2: This was from let's see what day this was. This

1095
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: was from November. Uh, the first year quarterback had a

1096
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 2: second knee surgery on his right knee to address swelling

1097
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: that occurred during his ongoing rehab. According to ESPN back

1098
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 2: in August, it was confirmed the twenty four year old,

1099
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 2: twenty one year old we missed the entire season, so

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00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: you know, had a second surgery in November. I mean,

1101
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: maybe he's just not ready to go. I have no

1102
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: idea really quickly, like I think I know where you

1103
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: stand on this, But do we think do we think

1104
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers can still play? Like, like, let me ask

1105
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: you this. This was obviously a team that won fourteen

1106
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: games last year in the regular season. I believe it

1107
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 2: was like the most ever for a wildcard team.

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00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 3: Do you believe that? I?

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00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: I guess I'm a little confused as to what the

1110
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: Vikings are doing here, Like do they believe that he

1111
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: puts them in as good of a position or better

1112
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: than Sam Donald? Like that's the part that's confusing to me.

1113
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, I don't know what that means other

1114
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 4: than well, one thing I think it means is those

1115
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 4: last couple of games that Donald played in Minnesota really

1116
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 4: told them okay with that he is not going to

1117
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 4: be our guy. He can't be our guy because they

1118
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 4: were right there on the doorstep and they tripped, and

1119
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 4: I just feel like I feel like they were out

1120
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 4: on him from that moment. And so now he's gonna

1121
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 4: get his opportunity in Seattle to prove them wrong. And

1122
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 4: he played very well for them last year. But I

1123
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 4: also just think they look at their weapons more than

1124
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 4: they looked at Donald, and they thought to themselves, there's

1125
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 4: a lot of quarterbacks that can come in here with

1126
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 4: these weapons and do something, and there's no reason to

1127
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 4: pay this guy. We've got a rookie that might be

1128
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 4: able to get the job done, and then there are

1129
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 4: other options, and maybe maybe those other options have always

1130
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 4: included Aaron Rodgers. I don't know. I now don't know.

1131
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 4: I said I thought he would end up with the

1132
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 4: Steelers last night when we talked about it, because it

1133
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 4: did seem and you made a really good argument, and

1134
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 4: it was interesting because it's based on kind of my

1135
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 4: philosophy that I've given for years, which is, you got

1136
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 4: to maximize the rookie contract of a quarterback so that

1137
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 4: you can build around him, as opposed to what happened

1138
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 4: in Green Bay with Jordan Love, where by the time

1139
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 4: you realized okay, maybe he can play, you already had

1140
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 4: to pay him on a very small sample size. We

1141
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 4: talked about that last night, So that seems to be

1142
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 4: the risk here. You bring in a guy that maybe

1143
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 4: he's still got some of the juice, maybe he's still

1144
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 4: got some of the magic. But if he doesn't, the

1145
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 4: one thing you do know is you've lost another year

1146
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 4: of JJ McCarthy's rookie contract. If he turns out to

1147
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 4: be good, you're not going to have much time to

1148
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 4: maximize that before you have to pay him. And then

1149
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 4: it cuts into what you're able to do to do

1150
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 4: around him.

1151
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Let's let's switch gears a

1152
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 2: little bit, Aaron Rodgers. It feels as though there's a

1153
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: few different options Russell Wilson, And again, is you know,

1154
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: for the audience that was with us last night? I apologize,

1155
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: but we talked about this a lot last night met

1156
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: with the Browns. Feels like the Giants may be a factor.

1157
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 2: Do you think that, like, is there anything left in

1158
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: the Russell Wilson tank? Is this just you know, a

1159
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: guy that just a guy like listen, I don't blame

1160
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 2: him for wanting to keep playing, but I look at

1161
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: didn't work with Sean Payton in Denver. Didn't work with

1162
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett either, but obviously that was maybe more of

1163
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: a Nathaniel Hackett thing. But didn't work with Sean Payton.

1164
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: You know, Mike Tomlin was the hand pick. You know,

1165
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 2: it was his handpicked guy. We heard about how great

1166
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: the relationship was with Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin kind of

1167
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 2: lets him walk. And to me, that makes it feel like,

1168
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: if Sean Payton doesn't want you and Mike Tomlin, you

1169
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 2: were his handpicked guy and he's willing to let you

1170
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: walk out the door. I think there's a real possibility

1171
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is not in the NFL at this time

1172
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: next year. I think he might get one more shot,

1173
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: But if he couldn't do it in Pittsburgh, given the

1174
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: circumstances that he was set up in, I just can't

1175
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 2: see him, you know, really built for the league for

1176
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: the long term.

1177
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, me either, And I mean I think I think

1178
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 4: that what he is, it seems like to me it's

1179
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 4: less about just trying to play him, more about trying

1180
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 4: to make sure he ends on the right note. And

1181
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 4: I think, honestly, he just did. I think if he

1182
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 4: were to retire right now, it's probably going to be

1183
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 4: better than whatever it is about to come in his

1184
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 4: career now. If it's me, Yeah, go ahead to Cleveland.

1185
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,479
Speaker 4: They Miles Garrett sticking around, You've got Nick Chubb, who's

1186
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 4: still a great back, and the Giants is just not

1187
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 4: where you want to go. He's not going to be

1188
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 4: their answer there. I like Tracy running back, of course,

1189
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 4: we like the league neighbors, but there's still so much

1190
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 4: there that's not right. Cleveland's probably the best bet for

1191
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 4: him at this point, but really the best bet is

1192
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 4: just to go ahead and retire and move on to

1193
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 4: his post playing career because he's gonna have one. He's

1194
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 4: gonna have one. And of course we had seen and

1195
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 4: we had read that, you know, he was very interested

1196
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 4: in being part of ownership, kind of taking that Tom

1197
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 4: Brady route, being in big cities and becoming a mogul

1198
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 4: and hob nobbing with millionaires and billionaires and all of

1199
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 4: those kinds of things, like, you can go ahead and

1200
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 4: do that, and your wife makes a lot of money

1201
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 4: as well. So wherever he goes, he's not going to

1202
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 4: be compete for a championship. They're not going to be

1203
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 4: good enough to do that. He's not going to make

1204
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 4: them good enough to do that either. So unless he

1205
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 4: is completely delusional at this point, the best thing that

1206
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 4: he could do for his career is to have is

1207
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 4: to leave on the note that we saw in Pittsburgh,

1208
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 4: which was far better than the two years that he

1209
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 4: spent in Denver. We have a little bit of a

1210
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 4: better feeling. It's like, you know, Russell Wilson, there was

1211
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 4: a little bit of magic last year. Now we all

1212
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 4: knew that it was not going to lead them to

1213
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 4: the super Bowl, but I mean dude's already won. He's

1214
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 4: got one ring, Like he's not going to win another one.

1215
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 4: That's I don't understand, Like they don't need to carry

1216
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 4: you off the field with a spatula, Like you leave

1217
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 4: on your own accord. You have the ability right now

1218
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 4: to do that. I don't think that he needs the

1219
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 4: money because he can earn it in a myriad of

1220
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 4: other ways. But if it comes down to a choice

1221
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 4: for him, I think Cleveland is the obvious answer. I mean,

1222
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 4: they were able to win some games with Joe Flacco.

1223
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 4: They do have some talent there. The Giants is a disaster.

1224
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Giants are a disaster. Yeah. I feel like I'm

1225
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: piling on.

1226
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm being negative, but I do just

1227
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: feel like that with him. Like you said, maybe it

1228
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: is best to start your post playing career, And I

1229
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 2: think it's a great point by you did make the playoffs,

1230
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: like it didn't go well, you know, last couple games

1231
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 2: against Baltimore endo the regular season, in the playoffs, whatever,

1232
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: But you would leave on top of a playoff quarterback

1233
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: go to the Giants or Browns does not seem like

1234
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: a great way. It's just it's not gonna end better

1235
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,040
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1236
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,600
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1237
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,160
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1238
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,919
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1239
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,920
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1240
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00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,720
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00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,600
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Speaker 2: of your screen. J Martin, just a second, we have

1257
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 2: the latest way to improve the NBA. Here's the question, though,

1258
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: does that way improve? Does the way to improve the

1259
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Speaker 2: NBA actually involve players playing in regular season games. We'll

1260
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 2: discuss that next. Before we do, though, let's get it

1261
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: over the news desk. Steve de Sager. You know we

1262
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: got I'll say this for twelve twenty four Easter. We

1263
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 2: got live motorsports, we got live live golf, we got

1264
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 2: live college basketball.

1265
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: Life is good, Steve de Sager.

1266
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 7: We got a live Dodger baseball from the Tokyo Dolls

1267
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 7: as well. Blake Snell three perfect innings, five strikeouts against

1268
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 7: the Haunchin Tigers, and then he allowed a three run

1269
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 7: homer in the fourth. So the Dodgers, who won their

1270
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 7: exhibition there early this morning our time, five to one

1271
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,919
Speaker 7: against the Tokyo Giants, are trailing the Haunchen Tigers three

1272
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 7: nothing in the fifth. As for the live golf, it's

1273
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 7: on FS one final round from Singapore, still walking. Neeman

1274
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 7: in the lead now by six strokes over Brooks Koepka.

1275
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 7: And yes we have late night college basketball. It's late

1276
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Speaker 7: for taff in Vegas a the Whack Championship game. First

1277
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 7: place Utah Valley is trailing thirty three thirty two against

1278
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 7: the two seed in the Conference Grand Canyon Akron, on

1279
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 7: a basket with two seconds to go, won the MAC Final,

1280
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 7: beating Miami Ohio seventy six seventy four. Norfolk State with

1281
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Speaker 7: a late free throw one sixty six sixty five. In

1282
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 7: the MIAC against South Carolina State, First place Houston won

1283
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 7: the Big Twelve, beating Arizona this evening in that tournament

1284
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 7: final seventy two to sixty four. First place Saint John's

1285
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 7: came back to win the Big East over Creighton eighty

1286
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 7: two to sixty six, and number one Duke beat the

1287
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 7: two seed in the ACC Louisville to win that conference

1288
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 7: tournament seventy three to sixty two. In the NBA's late game, Washington,

1289
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Speaker 7: which had a record of fourteen and fifty one, gotta

1290
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 7: win at Denver on a game winning three pointer from

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01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 7: Jordan Poole, won twenty six to one. Twenty three. At

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01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 7: Golden State, Steph Curry twenty eight points. Warriors won their

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01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 7: seventh straight edging New York ninety seven to ninety four.

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Speaker 7: Jalen Brunson of New York, with his bat ankle, could

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Speaker 7: be out a couple more weeks for New Orleans. Zion

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Speaker 7: Williamson was out for personal reasons tonight. Pelicans record now

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Speaker 7: eighteen and fifty after they lost a close one at

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Speaker 7: San Antonio one nineteen to one fifteen. Houston won at

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Speaker 7: six straight game, edging Chicago won seventeen, won fourteen. Bulls

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Speaker 7: had won four straight at Milwaukee. Jannisontenacumpo scored thirty four

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Speaker 7: points in a victory over Indiana, won twenty six to

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Speaker 7: one nineteen. At Memphis. Jaron Jackson thirty one points in

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Speaker 7: all win one twenty five ninety one over a Miami

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Speaker 7: team that's lost seven straight. For the Grizzlies, Jah Morant

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01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 7: was out tonight with a bad shoulder. He had just

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01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 7: scored forty four points last night against Cleveland. At Detroit,

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Speaker 7: Kate Cunningham five of eighteen shooting, kicked out in the

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Speaker 7: third quarter and the Pistons lost to Oklahoma City one thirteen,

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Speaker 7: one oh seven for OKC, forty eight points for Shay

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Speaker 7: Gilgis Alexander and his team on the road is twenty

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Speaker 7: six and seven. Boston's Jalen Brown left with back spasms,

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Speaker 7: but Jason Tatum scored twenty five points in a narrow

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Speaker 7: win at Brooklyn one fifteen to one thirteen for the Nats.

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Speaker 7: Cam Thomas, who averaged twenty four points a game, is

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Speaker 7: out for the season with a strained hamstring. The Atlanta

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Speaker 7: Falcons kept quarterback Kirk Cousins, so his ten million dollars

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Speaker 7: roster bonus for next year is now fully guaranteed. The

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Speaker 7: forty nine Ers resigned fullback Kyle Yuschek, and San Francisco

1319
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 7: traded running back Jordan Mason to the Vikings. Tonight, the

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Speaker 7: Chiefs re signed wide receiver Juju Smith Schuster. Among the

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Speaker 7: eleven NHL games, Carolina won at seventh in a row

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Speaker 7: five nothing at Philadelphia. Montreal beat Florida three to one.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve de Seger.

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Speaker 2: Sega will be rejoining us in about fifteen minutes from

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Speaker 2: j Martin, so Sega just gave you an update on

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01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 2: all things that have happened across the NBA today. NBA,

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01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 2: you know a little bit of a bump, I think

1344
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: with the Luka Danciz trade trade that you and I

1345
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 2: still have some questions about.

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Speaker 3: But neither here nor there.

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01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 4: I mean, it did happen that we don't have questions about.

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01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 4: It's just how it happened in the circumstance. Why where

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Speaker 4: our questions are?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know who you know, Nico Harrison, you know,

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01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. Maybe maybe he's you know,

1352
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 2: a made man, I mean people you know he'll take

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01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 2: care of for the rest of his life.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, bring it up.

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01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 2: Well, I mean he's yeah, I mean when the team

1356
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 2: moves to Vegas, because yeah, anyway, yeah, all right, so

1357
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of a bump with the Lucas stuff,

1358
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 2: but Lebron's out, Lakers whatever. And I bring it up

1359
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: because even with Luca in La, we know that the

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01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 2: NBA right now is kind of a train wreck, a

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01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: little bit of a disaster. Guys, don't play. Ratings are down,

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01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 2: you know, ratings for the All Star Game. We're basically

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01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: at an all time low. And everybody's got all sorts

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Speaker 2: of different ideas on ways to fix the NBA. Well,

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Speaker 2: I bring it up because the latest it came from

1366
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 2: Bill Simmons of The Ringer. You know Bill Simmons. Obviously,

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01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 2: I think anybody who follows sports media knows, you know,

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01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 2: NBA die Hard wrote the Book of Basketball, and whatever

1369
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 2: you think about him, guy cares about the NBA, loves

1370
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Speaker 2: the NBA, and wants what's best for the NBA. So

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Speaker 2: on one of his podcasts, he spent some time talking

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Speaker 2: about the way that he believes the NBA could be fixed.

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Speaker 3: Producer pre play.

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Speaker 7: This sound to me.

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Speaker 9: The goal should be how do we get away from

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01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 9: football as much as possible. How do we take advantage

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01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 9: of all of June instead of having the finals end

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01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 9: down like June eighteen, June nineteenth, Why are we thrown

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Speaker 9: away June?

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01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 7: And then could July really work for us?

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Speaker 9: Use that so that we're done July twenty seventh, The

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01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 9: draft is July thirty first tone down summer league. Don't

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01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 9: make it this huge thing, and then you basically get

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01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 9: August and September and half of October off before we

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Speaker 9: get the prese.

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Speaker 7: That makes way more sense to me.

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Speaker 10: I think it would make way more money too. And

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01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 10: there's one word that hasn't come up which explains why

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01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 10: it isn't like this already, and that's baseball. When the

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01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 10: NBA started avoiding baseball on the calendar, was that era's

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01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 10: version of avoiding football now And one further point, what

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01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 10: did Disney just do this week or last couple of

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01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 10: weeks is get off of their baseball relationship. That's one

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01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 10: of the major media partners, and they need inventory later

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01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 10: into the spring and summer.

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Speaker 2: So j Mart a couple thoughts on on on that,

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01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 2: you know, you know, before we even get to like

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Speaker 2: the fundamental issues of the NBA, which I still believe

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01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 2: your star players don't play enough. I just think I

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01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 2: think you could move the calendar to you know, thirty,

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01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: you know, eighty games in eighty days. It wouldn't matter

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Speaker 2: if your stars don't play. But a couple of things

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Speaker 2: on that one. First of all, I think the idea

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Speaker 2: of tamping down Summer League is the dumbest thing I've

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Speaker 2: ever heard, because Summer League is like the one thing

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Speaker 2: that has actually gained traction for the NBA the last

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Speaker 2: couple of years. But two, I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's a calendar issue.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I actually think the summer is there's a there's a

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Speaker 2: reason we don't play sports in the summer. People travel.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have two young kids, they're off a school.

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Speaker 2: You have I would defer to you, because you know

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01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 2: you're the parent who kind of builds the schedule around

1415
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Speaker 2: your kids, you know, your schooling and all that stuff.

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01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 2: I don't think changing the calendar and playing games in

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Speaker 2: more games in June and July.

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Speaker 3: Is the answer.

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Speaker 2: I think the answer is how about you just get

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Speaker 2: your players to play when it's actually time for the

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Speaker 2: games to play, whether it's in November, June, whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't think the location of the

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01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 4: season or the duration of the season is really your issue.

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01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 4: Although I will say this, I agree with our good

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 4: pal Klay Travis. I mean, we said it together when

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Speaker 4: we were still on Fox years ago in the mornings.

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Speaker 4: The season should start on Christmas Day, own that day

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Speaker 4: and let that become the start of your year. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean what Bill is saying here about the start

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Speaker 4: of I know exactly what he is arguing. I get

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Speaker 4: what he's arguing. And I also, I mean, I agree

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Speaker 4: with the idea that, yes, they were trying to get

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01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 4: away from baseball, but baseball is not the thing that

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01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 4: it was, especially compared to football. Now like baseball is,

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01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 4: it's better than it was five years ago. But at

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01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 4: the same time, the NFL rules all and as long

1437
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 4: as you were apart from football as much as possible,

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01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 4: you're going to be better off. I don't disagree with

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01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 4: the season going into more of June and July in

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01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 4: terms of the postseason. I just think that, and I

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01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 4: do think, like I'm giving them credit before we tear

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01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 4: them down here, I think that if you start on Christmas,

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01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 4: you are going to have a shorter regular season. I

1444
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 4: just don't know that you need eighty two games. But

1445
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 4: to your point, it doesn't matter what tricks you try

1446
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 4: to pull. It doesn't matter what you know ideas you

1447
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 4: have for the All Star Game to fix this problem

1448
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 4: or that problem. As long as the sports watching public

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01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 4: believes that your athletes can't be bothered to care, then

1450
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 4: none of this matters. It just can't because and it's

1451
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 4: sad because a lot of guys in the NBA do care,

1452
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 4: but the league as a whole, it just it feels

1453
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 4: like an accurate stigma at this point to just say

1454
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 4: these guys just can't be bothered most of the time.

1455
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 4: And it's not about the Luca injury or a Lebron injury.

1456
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about guys that are that have been

1457
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 4: legitimately hurt or anything like that. It's just a league

1458
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 4: that continually shoots itself in the foot with comments that

1459
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 4: are made like the Durant ones that we talked about

1460
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 4: a few weeks back about go watch hockey. They have

1461
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 4: the passion you're looking for, and all of those kinds

1462
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,799
Speaker 4: of things. It's this snark and this like we're above

1463
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 4: you attitude, like we should be grateful that we get

1464
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 4: to see them at all, and It's just like, you

1465
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 4: have no league without us, you have no leak without

1466
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 4: your fans. And until your fans believe that you respect

1467
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 4: that and care about that, you can do all the

1468
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,520
Speaker 4: fixes and the changes and the tinkering and the details

1469
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 4: that you want that you want and it's not going

1470
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 4: to amount to much at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was funny.

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01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: And I know this is a cliche talking point at

1473
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 2: this time of the year on the calendar, and I

1474
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 2: know that I'm a college hoops guy, but I was

1475
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 2: watching Florida Alabama today and you can say, oh, they're

1476
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 2: playing for a once either they're essentially playing for nothing.

1477
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 2: The Big Tournament starts on Thursday. That is what their

1478
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 2: season will be defined by. Alabama season will not be

1479
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: defined by the fact that they lost to Florida in

1480
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 2: the conference tournament. Florida season will not be defined by

1481
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: whether they beat Alabama in the conference tournament. And I

1482
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 2: was sitting there thinking what I think so many of

1483
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 2: us think this time of year is this is the

1484
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 2: NBA like like, and I'm not saying every NBA game

1485
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 2: should have the intensity of a conference tournament semi final

1486
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 2: in March, but college play. I know, I know, I

1487
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 2: sound like a grandma in in Idaho talking about, Oh,

1488
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 2: the college kids, they just tried so hard. But it's

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01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 2: like when you turn on a college basketball game and

1490
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 2: you see the effort being put forth, and then you

1491
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 2: turn on an NBA game and you have the Celtics

1492
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 2: shooting sixty three three pointers.

1493
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know how anybody watches the NBA.

1494
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 2: And I do think, by the way, the point that

1495
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 2: you just brought up, I think we're in a world

1496
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 2: where if you just look at the sports that are

1497
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 2: popular the NFL, nobody questions how bad those guys want

1498
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 2: a college football obviously, even I think the growth of

1499
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: the women's game, you can criticize the skill level, the athleticism,

1500
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 2: the verticality. It's not a better watch than NBA basketball.

1501
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 2: Just like college basketball. The skill level isn't the same

1502
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 2: as the best players in the world. But there's no

1503
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 2: doubt that those girls when they're out there are given

1504
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, just like there's no doubt with these

1505
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 2: college basketball players that they're giving the same. And I'm

1506
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: with you is to me, until you get guys to

1507
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: buy in and until you get guys to make I

1508
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 2: don't mean, I don't not every single game, but a

1509
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: lot more than they're doing right now.

1510
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 3: I just don't know how this.

1511
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 2: I remember about three four weeks ago, Ja Martin, we

1512
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: were talking about one of the issues, whether it was

1513
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: All Star game, whether it was at whatever, and we

1514
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 2: came to the how do you fix it? And I

1515
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 2: don't know how you fix it until you get the

1516
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: public to believe that these guys actually care what they're

1517
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 2: doing out on the court on a Tuesday in December,

1518
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1519
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I mean and I've seen. Look, I've watched

1520
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 4: several videos in the past couple of weeks from guys

1521
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 4: that are really trying to defend the NBA against some

1522
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 4: of the things that we're suggesting in this segment, and

1523
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 4: I'm listening to them and they're making points, and they're

1524
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 4: making pretty good points, and I'm thinking, to myself, none

1525
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 4: of this matters, though, guys, like if this is the perception,

1526
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 4: this is the reality, It is up to the NBA

1527
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 4: to set everyone straight if we're wrong, Like if these

1528
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 4: guys are actually playing way more than we think, and

1529
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 4: you look at the actual games being played and the

1530
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 4: percentage of the season and all this, and it's way

1531
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 4: higher and that this narrative is somehow faulty, then that's

1532
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,520
Speaker 4: up to the NBA to prove. And right now, unfortunately,

1533
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 4: their players just there is no marketing being done by

1534
01:13:55,240 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 4: the NBA players themselves, especially when they talk. That gives

1535
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 4: off that impression that I think is your biggest issue.

1536
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 4: That's the thing that you have to find a way

1537
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 4: to fix. It's not again, and Bill loves the NBA.

1538
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 4: You made that point, and I will underscore it. He

1539
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 4: absolutely adores the NBA, talks about it, relentlessly, cares deeply

1540
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 4: for it. I understand what he is suggesting here. But

1541
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 4: you can make this season whatever you want it to be.

1542
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 4: You can paint the courts, you can paint all of

1543
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 4: this kind of stuff. Yeah, you can set up this

1544
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 4: n season tournament. You can do euro versus or the

1545
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 4: World versus America in the All Star Game. You can

1546
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 4: do all of these things. But if the public doesn't

1547
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 4: buy that your athletes care, it is all in vain

1548
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 4: and that's the biggest issue. You can't tinker around the

1549
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 4: edges until you, Like I said I said before, in

1550
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 4: a perfect world, Adam Silver would be able to get

1551
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 4: every single player in a room together in some giant

1552
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 4: auditorium somewhere, give a state of the NBA address, simply

1553
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 4: to them and beg them to care, because that's all

1554
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,719
Speaker 4: it would take. These guys have immense talent. To JJ

1555
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 4: Reddick's credit, there's a lot of people playing right now

1556
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 4: that have a lot of talent. His argument there is

1557
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 4: not wrong.

1558
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,759
Speaker 3: The problem is, no matter.

1559
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 4: How talented you are, if we think you don't care,

1560
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 4: and that's how it feels.

1561
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 3: Last, last last thought.

1562
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 2: I'll also add this, and I don't know if I

1563
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 2: speak for everybody, I don't really want more sports on

1564
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: the calendar.

1565
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 3: Like I know of a sports talk rate. What's that?

1566
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 4: There's a lot.

1567
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, listen, I don't disagree. Getting away

1568
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 2: from the NFL as much as you can is probably

1569
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,759
Speaker 2: the right idea. Okay, but we go from six months

1570
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:53,839
Speaker 2: of the NFL two you know, basically college basketball NCAA tournament.

1571
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 2: We go, then to the NFL Draft, we go then

1572
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 2: to two months of the NBA playoffs. First of all,

1573
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 2: if you move the seed back, you now have like

1574
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 2: a month or six week gap where you still don't

1575
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 2: care about the NBA. We're just moving back to calendar

1576
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 2: as to when you care But two, I'll be real, man,

1577
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 2: we get to June July, I want to travel, I

1578
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 2: want to sit outside. I want to have a cocktail.

1579
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 2: I want to get some sun, some vitamin D A.

1580
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 2: I don't be watching you know, MAVs nuggets, Like I

1581
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 2: just don't you know, So I actually don't think. I

1582
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 2: don't think having games deeper into the summer is better.

1583
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: I actually like and I think you and I have

1584
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 2: even talked about this kind of that six eight week

1585
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 2: window when there's nothing on our calendar to talk about.

1586
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's not the funnest time.

1587
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 2: To do sports talk radio, but why do you get

1588
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 2: to talk about different stuff? But two, like it is

1589
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 2: nice to have that six eight week period where you

1590
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 2: don't feel obligated like you gotta be in front of

1591
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 2: you gotta do this, you gotta do that. And it's

1592
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 2: like it's another conversation. We can even bring it back

1593
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 2: an hour three if you want. But I don't know

1594
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 2: that changing the calendar is good and then adding stuff

1595
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 2: to the calendar is good either, because I think that

1596
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 2: the sports calendar has spread pretty thin as it is.

1597
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Jammar. We could continue that conversation

1598
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 2: maybe an hour three if you want. But what we

1599
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 2: do need to do is get to Steve Disager. He

1600
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 2: has his extended update. He's got all sorts of good

1601
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 2: news on college basketball MLB stuff going on in Japan.

1602
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 3: To Sega will join us next.

1603
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric

1604
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 2: Tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios.

1605
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 2: As we do every week around this time, let's get

1606
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 2: it over the news desk Steve Disaga with his extended

1607
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,759
Speaker 2: update to Sega floor is yours.

1608
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 7: We have a lot of college hoops to discuss. There

1609
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 7: are three late things in sports to talk about this

1610
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 7: Saturday night. First off, they're getting ready to start the

1611
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 7: second half in Vegas, with Grand Canyon leading first place

1612
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 7: Utah Valley forty to thirty three in the WAT Confernce Final.

1613
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 7: There's also the LIVGALF Final round on FS one from Singapore,

1614
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 7: where it's now a seven stroke lead with Walking Newman

1615
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,799
Speaker 7: five holes to go. A distant second was Brooks Koepka.

1616
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 7: He's now fallen back to eight strokes behind. And the

1617
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 7: Dodgers are getting shut out at the Tokyo Dome and

1618
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 7: their exhibition against the han Hin Tigers, who shut out

1619
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 7: the Cubs three nothing last night. It's three nothing against

1620
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 7: LA in the bottom of the sixth Tonight, Duke, number

1621
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 7: one in the country, wins the ACC Tournament final against

1622
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 7: Louisville this evening.

1623
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,480
Speaker 11: They won nineteen games in the regular season, as dominant

1624
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 11: a run as this league has ever seen, and they

1625
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 11: punk stuated with a twenty third ACC title. They knocked

1626
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 11: off Louisville seventy three to sixty two. The final score gritty,

1627
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 11: It's tough. They get it on the ultimate team and

1628
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 11: they are the ACC champs.

1629
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 7: The team wins the title without Cooper Flag out again

1630
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 7: with a sprained ankle. That was David Choemate from lear Field.

1631
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 7: Great item from SAT saying the fact that Cooper Flag

1632
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 7: only scored two points in this week's tournament due to

1633
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 7: the ankle injury, and still Duke won the title. No

1634
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 7: other Division one team this century has won its conference

1635
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 7: tournament despite having its leading scorer from the regular season

1636
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 7: score so few points, And in fact, that includes instances

1637
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 7: where the leading score from the regular season didn't play

1638
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 7: at all in the conference tournament, because in that case,

1639
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 7: none of those guys teams even won it at all.

1640
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 7: You were talking about Rick Patino, And this is kind

1641
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 7: of true, this discussion about all of sports. Can we

1642
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 7: just appreciate something that's great without it being the greatest?

1643
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 7: Rick Patino's not the greatest college basketball coach of all time.

1644
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,879
Speaker 7: I think we would all agree with the Dan Wetzel

1645
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 7: column that you referenced on Yahoo, the great sentence the

1646
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 7: guy can coach anyone, anywhere, at any time, and the

1647
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 7: fact that he's done it again here at Saint John's.

1648
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 7: They won the Big East Final in a comeback over Creighton.

1649
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 7: By the way, seventy eighty two sixty six. Saint John's

1650
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 7: was down five just before halftime. But no, he doesn't

1651
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 7: have the better winning percentage or even as many wins

1652
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,799
Speaker 7: as Bob Knight quite yet, certainly not as many national titles.

1653
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 7: This night, Mike Krzyzewski would certainly come to mind more titles,

1654
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 7: certainly more wins, better winning percentage. John Wooden's the greatest

1655
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 7: coach of all time.

1656
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you would.

1657
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: You know, we preface the segment the way Dan. What'sill

1658
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 2: preface the column is that he'll never have the raw numbers.

1659
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 2: But I think there's also a very legitimate argument that

1660
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone could ever do what he like.

1661
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 2: I don't think John Wooden respectfully, and you know, there's

1662
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 2: no way I don't think Coach K could go to

1663
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 2: six different schools over forty year period and flip them

1664
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 2: the way that that Rick pattin. It's a conversation, I

1665
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 2: mean it is.

1666
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 7: That is a conversation. Yeah, but goat means greatest of

1667
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 7: all time, Greatest.

1668
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 2: Of all time, Greatest has a lot of different meanings though,

1669
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you could say.

1670
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 7: That winning titles doesn't have to do with.

1671
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,040
Speaker 2: What would you say that Coach K is in the

1672
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,719
Speaker 2: conversation for the greatest of all time.

1673
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 7: Or in the conversation more than Rick Patino.

1674
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 2: But he has half as many titles as John Wooden,

1675
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 2: So if you if it's only about titles, then he

1676
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 2: can't be in the cover.

1677
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 7: The rest of the world has half as many titles

1678
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 7: as John Woulden. Well, but you just said it's only

1679
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,679
Speaker 7: about championships, though no, I said winning the winning percent.

1680
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 7: I mean, it's twelve hundred wins for Coach K. That's

1681
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 7: a ridiculous total.

1682
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 4: I think Coach K is the answer, by the way,

1683
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 4: but I'm just going to toss that out.

1684
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 7: And as far as what was Saint John's basketball before

1685
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 7: Rick Patino arrived? Then the five years prior they had

1686
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 7: five winning records UCLA in the five years before John

1687
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 7: Wooden had won winning season.

1688
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 2: I won a tournament game since nineteen ninety nine or

1689
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 2: two thousand. I mean it's I mean you I think

1690
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 2: any of these conversations, you can skew the stats any

1691
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 2: way you want. It's like it's like the goat in

1692
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,799
Speaker 2: the NBA is that you can actually make a compelling

1693
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 2: case for Kareema.

1694
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,839
Speaker 7: That's that was not skewed. They had one winning record

1695
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 7: in the five years before John wouldn't arrive.

1696
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:54,560
Speaker 5: No, I know.

1697
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 2: But also Saint John's has not won a tournament game

1698
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 2: in twenty five years. So it's not like, well they

1699
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 2: won't because you said, oh they had five winning records

1700
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,600
Speaker 2: or whatever. They were a dead program. They were completely irrelevant.

1701
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 2: And I think there's absolutely an argument. And I think

1702
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 2: the term greatest there's different ways to skew it.

1703
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 7: So you think Patrick Mahomes might be the greatest quarterback

1704
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 7: of all time.

1705
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 2: I think you can make the argument. Now I wouldn't personally,

1706
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 2: but I think you can make it. I don't think

1707
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 2: you should but I think you could. I mean, can

1708
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 2: you not make the argument that Joe Montana's greater than

1709
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: Tom Brady?

1710
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 7: You could have that discussion.

1711
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 2: Yes, And all I'm saying is I think there is

1712
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 2: a conversation that Rick Patino is the greatest person to

1713
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 2: ever coach college basketball.

1714
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 3: I don't think you can say he's the.

1715
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 2: Greatest coach ever because he'll never have the stats that

1716
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 2: everybody else does.

1717
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 7: John Wooden, by the way, and you mentioned what Patino

1718
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,759
Speaker 7: is doing at this advanced age of his career, wouldn't

1719
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 7: in his last twelve years won ten.

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Speaker 2: That's actually the crazy part about Wooden is he just

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01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been given the window to, like, what was

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Speaker 2: it about?

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Speaker 4: Not a chance?

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Speaker 7: This is maybe the best point of all is that

1725
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 7: he was able to stay at UCLA.

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Speaker 2: It's a weird and that's like with college basketball specifically.

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01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 2: That's what makes it so interesting because the eras are

1728
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: just so different.

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01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 7: You had to finish first place in the regular season

1730
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 7: to get an NCAA tournament big back then. Famously, in

1731
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 7: the nineteen seventy one college basketball season, UCLA and its

1732
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 7: rival USC were both ranked top five in the country.

1733
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 7: USC with Hall of Famer Paul Westfall finished twenty four

1734
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Speaker 7: and two and the two losses were against John Wooden

1735
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Speaker 7: and they didn't go to the NCAA tournament.

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01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 2: Was it Maryland and NC State one year or one

1737
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 2: and two? And I think they played like a triple

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01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 2: overtime game in.

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01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 7: The list and go to the go to John Lucas. Yes.

1740
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 7: And the amazing thing also with Wooden is he won

1741
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 7: back to back national titles before Kareem ever arrived. And

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01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 7: then when Kareem did arrive, freshmen were not eligible to play,

1743
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 7: and that was the year that UTEP Texas Western won

1744
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 7: the title.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve disager to say, it will

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Speaker 2: be with us for one more hour. We're taking you

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Speaker 2: till two am Eastern. Fox Sports Radio Er Tours Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: to say about a busy, really couple days in sports,

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Speaker 2: with all the college basketball, the NFL news, spring trainings

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Speaker 2: opening up, and the NBA as well.

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Speaker 3: Bernie Fratto an hour from now.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I wonder if Bernie will have anything

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01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 2: on the newly vacant UNLV basketball coaching jobs.

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01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 3: So Barty Fredi will join us an hour from now.

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01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 2: UNLV will not be in the NCAA tournament this year,

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01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 2: but several tickets have been punched the bracket. In twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours we will have a brackets so Brackett is

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Speaker 2: announced at six pm Eastern Time on Sunday and J Martin,

1770
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Speaker 2: let's just dive into some of the stories of the day.

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Speaker 2: I think the big one I think we would all

1772
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 2: agree it's Duke Blue Devils ACC Tournament. We know the

1773
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 2: ACC is down this year, but as you and I

1774
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Speaker 2: discussed earlier, they survive. UNC On Friday Night, weird situation.

1775
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 2: Everybody knows by now the lane violation in a one

1776
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: point game that costs Carolina a shot to tie it.

1777
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 2: So you kind of wondered, Okay, how are they gonna

1778
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,719
Speaker 2: do once they actually get into a game against Louisville.

1779
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 2: Louisville's a good team, They're headed to the NCAA tournament. Well,

1780
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 2: the Duke Blue Devils had few problems with the Louisville Cardinals.

1781
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,759
Speaker 2: It was actually I shouldn't say few problems because Louisville

1782
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 2: did lead it the half, but Duke outscores them by

1783
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 2: sixteen in the second half. They win the ACC Conference

1784
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 2: championship by nine points, beating Duke locking in. They've already

1785
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 2: had the one seed locked in, but Jmart Duke wins

1786
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 2: the ACC. Were you surprised at the relatively easy manner

1787
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 2: in which they won on Saturday night without Cooper Flag.

1788
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 4: Well, I mean they did have to fight. That first

1789
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 4: half was difficult, and you watched it and you at

1790
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 4: least saw the possibility for Louisville. But at the same time,

1791
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 4: the Duke that you saw in the second half just

1792
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 4: reflected a team that played together and knew each other

1793
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 4: and worked as a unit. They didn't have their hass,

1794
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 4: they didn't have the guy that really has driven it

1795
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 4: for them throughout the year, but they weren't fully reliant

1796
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 4: upon him just because And I do think there's credit

1797
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 4: to Shier here, probably the way that the practices have gone,

1798
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 4: the way that they've coached throughout the year. If you

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01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 4: put all your eggs in one basket, if there's always

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Speaker 4: danger in doing that, And now I think that they

1801
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 4: are learning that they can play even when Cooper flag

1802
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,440
Speaker 4: is not in the game. They're seeing success from that.

1803
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 4: That's gonna make them a lot better. It's to make

1804
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 4: them a lot more dangerous, assuming he can come back

1805
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 4: in the NCAA tournament. These are guys that I think

1806
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 4: have probably built a little bit of confidence seeing success

1807
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:29,839
Speaker 4: and seeing some w's pop up in the ACC tournament

1808
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 4: and still winning the thing even without him being available

1809
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 4: against your arch arrival, your most hated you know, your

1810
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 4: most hated rival in North Carolina. Being able to hang

1811
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 4: on and win that game even with the crazy comeback

1812
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 4: that Carolina made in the second half, and then pulling

1813
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 4: away from Louisville the way that you did in the

1814
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 4: second half, I think that's a big confidence builder for

1815
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 4: the rest of the guys on that roster to just

1816
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 4: remember that if the going gets tough and flag is

1817
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 4: not available, they can still win some games.

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Speaker 2: Thank your question, And I don't know if this is

1819
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 2: anything you have a strong opinion on, but the Auburn

1820
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 2: Tigers really had basically been seemingly in position to get

1821
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 2: the number one overall seed for really most of probably

1822
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 2: February into March. You know, I won't bore people with

1823
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 2: too many analytics, but basically the way that they pick

1824
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament teams, they have what they call a quad

1825
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: system where they rank all of your wins. Auburn has

1826
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 2: an NCAA best sixteen quad one wins. The next closest

1827
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 2: with the win today, Houston would have thirteen. So basically

1828
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 2: they have three more quality wins than anybody else in

1829
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 2: college basketball twenty eight and five overall. Duke, on the

1830
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 2: other hand, thirty one and three after the win tonight,

1831
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 2: nine quad one wins. Again, I won't bore people with details,

1832
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 2: but quad one are the best wins that you can have.

1833
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 2: Do you have any strong opinion? Do you care if

1834
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 2: it's Alburn as the number one overall seed? Obviously I

1835
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 2: think at this point, probably make a little case for

1836
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 2: Houston thirty three, they'll be tied for the second most

1837
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 2: quad win wins, and then of course Duke thirty one

1838
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 2: in three also worth noting that they have the head

1839
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 2: to head win over Auburn. Do you care at all

1840
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 2: about the number one overall seed? Do you have a

1841
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 2: strong opinion on who it should be or who it

1842
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 2: shouldn't be.

1843
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 4: I don't know that I have a strong opinion. I

1844
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 4: definitely don't think that Auburn has put its best foot

1845
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 4: forward here in this last little bit, but they had

1846
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 4: achieved so much prior to that point in time. I mean,

1847
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 4: we talked earlier in the show about the favorites, and

1848
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 4: I thought Duke being the favorite of Cooper Flag comes

1849
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 4: back seems to make sense, especially with them still winning

1850
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 4: the ACC Tournament without him in those last two games.

1851
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 4: I tend to think that's probably like if I were

1852
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 4: looking at the overall seed just for me, I might

1853
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 4: go with Duke at this point in time. But I

1854
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 4: don't think that you're gonna get it wrong necessarily with

1855
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 4: any of them, because I'm not sure that there's just

1856
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,680
Speaker 4: it's just a given it has to be ex school

1857
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 4: because the Flag situation at Duke, I think has actually

1858
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:03,799
Speaker 4: helped them, assuming he's back, of course, and then Auburn

1859
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 4: maybe has dropped a peg, even if they're still the

1860
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 4: overall number one, they've probably dropped a peg. And to

1861
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 4: your point about Houston, So I think that I don't,

1862
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 4: I don't. I can't get two up in arms either way.

1863
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 4: I don't think that there's just one that they could

1864
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 4: completely screw over by not giving them the overall number one.

1865
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1866
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 2: And for people who don't understand, Duke has the most

1867
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 2: wins of any team right now, going, they'll have the

1868
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 2: most wins when the tournament starts at thirty one. Both

1869
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 2: Houston and Saint John's will enter at thirty Why why

1870
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 2: the argument would be you know why the argument wouldn't

1871
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 2: necessarily be for Duke to be the number one overall

1872
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:44,560
Speaker 2: seed is just because the ACC was so down. I

1873
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 2: think most people know but only projected to get three

1874
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 2: tournament teams right now, Clemson, Louisville as well as Duke.

1875
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 2: You know, this was the crazy stat j Mart that

1876
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 2: they brought up on the game today. Louisville today was

1877
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 2: the first ranked team that Duke played in ACC play,

1878
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 2: which is obviously you grew up on Tobacco Road. But

1879
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 2: when they played Louisville earlier in the year, they were unranked.

1880
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 2: That was back in like early January late December. Duke

1881
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 2: did not play a ranked team in ACC play until

1882
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 2: the championship game of the conference tournament.

1883
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 3: So it shows you how far that league has fallen.

1884
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 3: But I'm with you. I don't think it.

1885
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 2: Changes the fact that that I think Duke is, you know,

1886
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 2: Duke is. I don't think they'll get the number one

1887
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 2: overall seed if they do. You know, I know everybody

1888
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 2: wants to have crazy opinions about Duke, but I just

1889
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:34,759
Speaker 2: think if they get it, I wouldn't be upset, especially

1890
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:36,799
Speaker 2: given it's not just that they have the most wins

1891
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 2: and that the whatever. But Alburn, to your point, has

1892
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 2: not been playing well. They've lost three or four going

1893
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 2: into the NCAA tournament. Let me ask you about Alburn.

1894
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 2: We haven't talked much about them. They've lost three of

1895
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 2: four coming in now. It's worth noting all of the

1896
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 2: losses came after they clinched the SEC regular season title.

1897
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 2: All of the losses are to teams that will probably

1898
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 2: be one or probably two or three seeds. I really

1899
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 2: should say they lose to a Texas A and M

1900
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 2: team which is in the top fifteen, probably going to

1901
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 2: be a three or four seed, that was on the road,

1902
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 2: they lose to Alabama at the buzzer, they lose to

1903
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 2: a Tennessee team that, like Alabama, could be a number

1904
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 2: one seed, although probably won't be on a scale of

1905
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 2: one to ten. How worried you about the Alvin Tigers

1906
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 2: right now?

1907
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 4: I don't know that I'm worried about them, but you

1908
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 4: have at least seen you've seen some cracks in that armor.

1909
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 4: You've definitely seen some dents there that maybe can be exploited.

1910
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if they go in the next six

1911
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 4: games what they've done in the last three or four,

1912
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 4: but they've definitely kind of open up the door for

1913
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 4: just a little bit of doubt to creep into their

1914
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 4: own minds as long as they still believe they can

1915
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 4: get it done. They're obviously talented enough to do that,

1916
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 4: but you never want to kind of limp in. And

1917
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 4: it does feel like they're limping in a little bit.

1918
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 4: As much as a potential still number one overall seed

1919
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:00,719
Speaker 4: can be limping in. They're just not They're not functioning

1920
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,639
Speaker 4: at their highest level at this point. As long as

1921
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 4: they can still get that back, they can still be

1922
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:08,719
Speaker 4: cutting the nets down at the end of this thing.

1923
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 4: But I definitely would just say that I don't feel

1924
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 4: quite as strongly about them as I did a month ago,

1925
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 4: for example, or even two and a half three weeks ago,

1926
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 4: when they definitely just look like the team to beat.

1927
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:23,640
Speaker 4: I don't know that I would say that they that

1928
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 4: they kind of fit that bill now because we've now

1929
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 4: seen three of their last four opponents beat them.

1930
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 2: Hey, let me ask you a question I've never I

1931
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 2: don't think I've ever gotten your take on this. So

1932
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 2: you know, Bubble's kind of coming down to a lot

1933
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Speaker 2: of teams with a lot of flawed resumes, you know,

1934
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Speaker 2: teams that have thirteen fourteen losses.

1935
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 3: Whatever. I bring it up.

1936
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 2: Because about an hour ago the Big West Final, what

1937
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 2: you know, the Big West Championship win final. U see

1938
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 2: San Diego beats UC Irvine. I'm looking at Joe Lonardi's

1939
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 2: most recent bracketology and he has UC Irvine as basically

1940
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 2: one of the first eight teams out. So the next

1941
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 2: four out is how you would call it. They finish

1942
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 2: the regular season twenty eight and six overall. Now, admittedly,

1943
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 2: because of the conference they play in, they don't have

1944
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 2: a lot of great wins they have. Again, I told

1945
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 2: you guys a minute ago the quad system quad one

1946
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 2: wins are the best win you can have. They only

1947
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 2: have one, as opposed to a team like Texas that

1948
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 2: has like seven or eight. Are you a guy, and

1949
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 2: there's no right or wrong answer. I'm just curious, would

1950
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Speaker 2: you rather with these last couple spots? Would you rather

1951
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 2: reward the team that maybe doesn't have the win loss

1952
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 2: record as pretty but they played in the tough conference.

1953
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 2: So as an example, Texas entering the NCAA Tournament or

1954
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 2: entering selection Sunday, I really should say they're entering with

1955
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 2: a win lost record overall. This is the Texas Longhorns

1956
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 2: nineteen and fifteen, seven and ten in quad one games. Irvine,

1957
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 2: as I just said, is twenty eight and six with

1958
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 2: one Quad one opportunity one in zero in quad one

1959
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,600
Speaker 2: as opposed to Texas, which apparently had I think seventeen

1960
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 2: quad one games. Do you have a strong opinion? Would

1961
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 2: you rather see the small school that just doesn't get

1962
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 2: the opportunities that everybody else does. Would you rather see

1963
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:08,879
Speaker 2: the big school that has played a much tougher schedule.

1964
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 2: You have on any strong opinions on that one.

1965
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:17,520
Speaker 4: I mean, the NCAA tournament is about the uc Irvines.

1966
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 4: Those are the stories that we generally remember. They're not

1967
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 4: the teams that are going to win the championship. But

1968
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 4: I guess the question that I would fire back at

1969
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 4: just anybody that would ask that is has Texas done

1970
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 4: enough to where you feel like they deserve to be sure?

1971
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 4: And you know, I think the answer might be no.

1972
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:43,759
Speaker 4: And so you look at uc Irvine twenty five plus

1973
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 4: wins and you mentioned I think the important thing you

1974
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 4: said there was one quad one opportunity and they took

1975
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 4: advantage of that. But certainly they didn't play as tough

1976
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,440
Speaker 4: as schedule, but they weren't going to have the opportunity

1977
01:35:56,920 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 4: to play it toughest schedule either. I don't know that

1978
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 4: I have a strong opinion on it. I do know

1979
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 4: what I feel like, March Madness is built on, and

1980
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 4: it's not built on the Texas Longhorns inching in as

1981
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 4: a you know, eleven seed or something like that. It's

1982
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 4: much more built on the Cinderella and the Slipper just

1983
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 4: doesn't fit for Texas. To be called a Cinderella. It

1984
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 4: just doesn't, so I tend to I think I kind

1985
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 4: of fall more on the irvine side. I don't know

1986
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 4: that it's a strong side, but that's that's where I think.

1987
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 4: I just feel like that's the that's the story of

1988
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Speaker 4: this tournament. Yeah.

1989
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Speaker 2: I don't know that Texas has ever been a Cinderella

1990
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 2: in anything that they do. Some might call them the

1991
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Speaker 2: evil stepmother, but that's another conversation for another day. Fox

1992
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 2: Sports Radio air towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

1993
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Speaker 2: Tyreck dot com studios.

1994
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Speaker 3: So what we're gonna do, We're gonna come back.

1995
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Speaker 2: When we do, we will bring on bracketologist Rocko Miller

1996
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Speaker 2: of Field to sixty eight. This guy, you know brackets

1997
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Speaker 2: for okay, So all your by the way, if you

1998
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Speaker 2: want to tweet in a question at Aaron Underscore Tours

1999
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Speaker 2: at jmart Radio, feel free.

2000
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Speaker 3: We'll try to get it in.

2001
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 2: But Rocomiller will join us next to talk number one

2002
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Speaker 2: Seeds the Bubble, a lot of college basketball still ahead.

2003
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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Radio.

2004
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2005
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2006
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2007
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2008
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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio aeron Torris Jason Martin

2009
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2010
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2011
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2017
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Speaker 3: So what we want to do. It's a busy time

2018
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Speaker 3: of year.

2019
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 2: Bracket will be out at six pm Eastern tomorrow and

2020
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 2: there is no one better to break down on what

2021
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 2: the next what twenty or so hours will be like

2022
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 2: then Roco Miller.

2023
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 3: You can follow him on Twitter at Roco Miller eight.

2024
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:10,759
Speaker 2: He does bracketology for the Field of sixty eight, among

2025
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 2: many places. Rocko, Night before the bracket? What is your

2026
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 2: life like? I mean, is the hay in the barn?

2027
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:19,520
Speaker 2: Is the work just starting?

2028
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 3: What is your life like the night before the bracket

2029
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 3: comes out?

2030
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a little anxious, you know, it's one of

2031
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 5: the more exciting feelings in this process. You know, working

2032
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:35,679
Speaker 5: each day of the season leading up to this, it's

2033
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 5: fun to kind of know finally we're going to be

2034
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 5: able to validate some of these answers and critiques throughout

2035
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:44,600
Speaker 5: the year. But yeah, I feel like there is a

2036
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 5: lot of hay in the barn, but there's also just

2037
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 5: such a big, jumbled mess this year. Between I would

2038
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 5: sit in two sections really, one what I call the

2039
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 5: middle seeds Aaron, which are basically everybody from about yu

2040
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:00,559
Speaker 5: who came in this morning number twenty on my chart,

2041
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 5: which is the last of the five seeds, all the

2042
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:06,640
Speaker 5: way into the eighth where Creighton and Yukon live thirty one,

2043
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 5: thirty two, and the teams in that mix are just

2044
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 5: really really hard to separate, and it gets a little scary,

2045
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 5: you know, as you get graded on bracket matrix and

2046
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 5: what else. I obviously I've had very good scores over

2047
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 5: the years, don't want to jeopardize that. So I'll be

2048
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 5: spending a lot of time trying to make sure I

2049
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 5: got that order as good as I can. But there's

2050
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 5: such a wide range for so many of those teams.

2051
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 5: And then also closer to the bubble, there's a lot

2052
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 5: of different outcomes that we could see play out, which

2053
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 5: is different than most years. I think you usually we've

2054
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 5: got it narrowed down to about four to six teams,

2055
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:40,680
Speaker 5: and I would say I would argue, you know, from

2056
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 5: everybody from Oklahoma on down, when do you go? Oklahoma, Baylor, Vanderbilt, SDSU,

2057
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 5: West Virginia, Xavior, Indiana, and then on the outside for

2058
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 5: me right now, Boise State, North Carolina, UC Irvine. There's

2059
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 5: a lot of teams that the committee could remove from

2060
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 5: the field. We have two more potential bid deals in play.

2061
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 5: We know if UAV beats Memphis tomorrow, that's going to

2062
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 5: take a spot away, and we also know if BEFU

2063
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:09,440
Speaker 5: loses to George Mason, there's there's an outside chance BCU

2064
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,680
Speaker 5: as an at large candidate could take somebody's spot. So

2065
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 5: there's still a lot of things to shake out. There's

2066
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 5: a we had to we had to build a seventy

2067
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 5: two team board tonight just to cover all the different

2068
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 5: scenarios for tomorrow, and most years it's not quite that chaotic,

2069
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 5: So I kind of like it.

2070
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 4: So Number one overall, we talked about this in the

2071
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 4: last segment and a little bit earlier in the show,

2072
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 4: Rocko does Auburn's loss affect that at all, and does

2073
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 4: Douke have an opportunity there winning the ACC tournament even

2074
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 4: without Cooper Flagg, especially with them telling the committee he's

2075
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 4: going to be ready for the for the tourney.

2076
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:53,559
Speaker 5: There's an outside chance my forecast won't have that, and

2077
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 5: mainly because the way it works from the committee room

2078
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 5: is uh, well, first of all, I'm fairly confident they

2079
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 5: had Auburn number one this morning before today's loss, and

2080
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 5: so based on that, the way the process would have

2081
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 5: to work this late in the committee process is somebody

2082
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 5: in the room would have to motion to move Duke

2083
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:12,439
Speaker 5: up to the one and get enough votes to support it.

2084
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 5: And what ends up happening if it's close, and I

2085
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 5: still think it's pretty close, because with Auburn you have

2086
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 5: the sixteen quad one wins, you have such dominance, the

2087
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 5: best resume by every resume metrics, and a lot of

2088
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 5: that's really important for number one seeds. I think the

2089
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 5: committee would be more from Duke's perspective, I think the

2090
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 5: committee at best is torn and at worst they're still

2091
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:38,719
Speaker 5: fine with Auburn. So to me, I think there's probably

2092
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:41,800
Speaker 5: a ninety percent chance they stick with Auburn just based

2093
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 5: on how late in the game we are, and maybe

2094
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 5: a ten percent window if they get just enough votes

2095
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 5: to push Duke to number one. But I think either way,

2096
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 5: you know, it's not the end of the world for

2097
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,920
Speaker 5: either team. Auburn's getting the South, Duke's get in the East,

2098
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 5: and let's move on with the rest of the bracket.

2099
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 2: So we actually did get a tweet in from at

2100
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:04,719
Speaker 2: Chiefs seven to two who asked about the Oklahoma Sooners,

2101
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 2: a team you just mentioned. He says, are they out

2102
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:10,720
Speaker 2: in Dayton or a solid non play in game and

2103
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 2: he added the questioning face emoji four effects. So what

2104
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 2: do you think about Oklahoma status going into Sunday?

2105
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 4: Roco.

2106
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's a really interesting thing because Oklahoma,

2107
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 5: I feel like they had three different seasons. You know,

2108
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 5: they went undefeated in the non conference within with some

2109
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:32,679
Speaker 5: amazing wins, you know, beating Arizona, Louisville, Michigan, et cetera.

2110
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 5: I think West Virginia was in there too, So four

2111
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 5: tournament level wins on neutral courts a shiny resume. Then

2112
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 5: we all know they go six and twelve in the league.

2113
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 5: Most of the league's season, they did not look like

2114
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 5: a tournament team. They had that ugly loss at home

2115
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 5: to LSU. I can't get that game out of my head.

2116
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 5: I remember waiting for that game to end on that Saturday,

2117
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 5: and then you know, they come into the SEC down

2118
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 5: the stretch. Getting that win at Texas on the last

2119
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 5: day obviously kept them relevant, and then coming to the

2120
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 5: SEC tournament beating Georgia certainly didn't hurt. So there are

2121
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 5: reasons to leave Oklahoma out. They finished two and seven

2122
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 5: in true road games. I really hold my nose to

2123
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 5: that record a lot. The two wins that Texas and

2124
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 5: at Arkansas are decent wins, but they're not against the

2125
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 5: top of the SEC by any means. Arkansas was out

2126
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:23,640
Speaker 5: for a lot of the season, played their way in

2127
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 5: late Texas was in earlier in the year, played their

2128
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 5: way out down the stretch. So not really impressed per

2129
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 5: se by either of those two wins. But you go

2130
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 5: back and look at all the damage they did with

2131
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 5: the non conference and they picked up some home wins

2132
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 5: against Bazoo and Mississippi State and Vanderbilt. Yeah, I mean

2133
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 5: it's tough. I think when you stack them up against

2134
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,639
Speaker 5: some of these other teams just below them on my board,

2135
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,679
Speaker 5: and right now that would be you know, the teams

2136
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 5: I mentioned earlier, San Diego State, West Virginia, Like, I

2137
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 5: feel more solid on San Diego State. I think with

2138
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 5: Vanderbilt the schedule at three thirty one, that's one where

2139
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 5: I'm really worried if they fall too close to the

2140
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 5: cut that they could be ripped out of the field.

2141
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,080
Speaker 5: So I think Oklahoma, like I try to give these

2142
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 5: teams like credit scores. Pretend you're a mortgage lender, and

2143
01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 5: I would give Oklahoma just a little bit better credit

2144
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:20,600
Speaker 5: score than like a Vanderbilt or Xavier or in Indiana.

2145
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 5: So from that perspective, I think they're in. And if

2146
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 5: they're in, they've got good enough metrics to get seated

2147
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 5: into the ten so they don't have to worry about Dayton.

2148
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 5: So that's how I'll just sum up that answer.

2149
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 4: So you said this to us when we had you

2150
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 4: on last night, and you were very matter of fact

2151
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:40,599
Speaker 4: about it. I imagine nothing's changed but Florida losing or sorry,

2152
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 4: Florida at this point right now got to be locked

2153
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 4: in as it stands. But if they were to lose

2154
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 4: to Tennessee, does that change anything? Is there anybody that

2155
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 4: you look at and say they could sneak in and

2156
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 4: take that from Florida, or do you feel at this point,

2157
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 4: especially with the way Florida dominated Alabama today, that they're

2158
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 4: probably already set in stone.

2159
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:03,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel very good about Florida. And yeah, I

2160
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 5: think tonight as we're speaking, or maybe they're already in bed,

2161
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 5: who knows, because they're in the Eastern time zone, they're

2162
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 5: out in Indianapolis. I hope they're in bed. It's one

2163
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,760
Speaker 5: point thirty now, but or getting a late night drink.

2164
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 5: But the bottom line is it's too late now. I

2165
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:21,640
Speaker 5: think Florida's got so much hey in the bar and themselves.

2166
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 5: That extra Alabama, when as you mentioned, is huge. You

2167
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,600
Speaker 5: could actually argue Florida into the top two if you

2168
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 5: really want to make that argument. There's a case to

2169
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 5: be made, you know, with those rope wings that Auburn

2170
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:35,599
Speaker 5: and Alabama, which is so dynamic. They've only lost four

2171
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 5: times all year. Tennessee's taking a few extra losses compared

2172
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 5: to Florida. So Tennessee beating them on a neutral court

2173
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:46,679
Speaker 5: in Nashville, even if the committee was taking it fully

2174
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 5: in it wouldn't be enough in my opinion. But Now,

2175
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 5: if Tennessee jumps Alabama, that could matter a little bit

2176
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 5: because that could get Tennessee into the East and take

2177
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 5: Alabama out of the East. I don't know how big

2178
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,639
Speaker 5: of a deal that is. But also keep in mind

2179
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 5: that Greg Byrne, Alabama's out directors on the committee. So

2180
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 5: that's one thing I pay attention close to. You usually

2181
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 5: want to help out your buddies in the room. Might

2182
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,640
Speaker 5: just hold Alabama five overall in Tennessee sixth, even if

2183
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 5: Tennessee wins this whole thing.

2184
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a good question.

2185
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 2: Roco Miller joining us a bracketologist field of sixty eight.

2186
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 2: You can follow Rocko on Twitter at Rocko Miller eight.

2187
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 2: I just was curious. You know, this is a question,

2188
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 2: not really a bracketology question, but you watch all these

2189
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 2: these low and mid major teams as well as anybody,

2190
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:33,719
Speaker 2: and it's always a question this time of year. Everybody

2191
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 2: who's filling out a bracket wants to know. I know

2192
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:39,720
Speaker 2: it's impossible without knowing the matchups and without knowing the

2193
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:42,720
Speaker 2: seedings in et cetera, But do you have a mid

2194
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 2: major or small school on your mind that you think

2195
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 2: can make a pseudo run similar to a Florida Atlantic

2196
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 2: a school like that.

2197
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 3: Over the last couple of years, I.

2198
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 5: Can't really ever put anybody on Florida Atlantics level, and

2199
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:55,680
Speaker 5: I was all in on the Als that year. I

2200
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 5: put them in the Final four as part of the

2201
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 5: only time I ever won like real money in a bracket.

2202
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 5: Filling out the brackets not my song suit, but I

2203
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:06,600
Speaker 5: knew I had so much confidence in the Alis, and

2204
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 5: of course they got that brutal draw with Memphis, and

2205
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,320
Speaker 5: so I filled out some with Memphis in the final

2206
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:12,800
Speaker 5: four as well. But that was the first time I

2207
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 5: think in my life where I've had an eight to

2208
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:18,719
Speaker 5: nine winner on either side as a final four team,

2209
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 5: and I just felt so strongly about it because that

2210
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 5: team had everything, a bunch of winners, great coaching, athlete,

2211
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 5: athletes like obviously some NBA talent on that on that

2212
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:31,600
Speaker 5: toyt Land team. So I don't think you're going to

2213
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:34,080
Speaker 5: get that this year from the UC San Diego or

2214
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 5: the Drakes. But those teams are also so very well

2215
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 5: put together, cohesive, don't make mistakes, to control the pace

2216
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 5: at all times. Watching UC San Diego again tonight was

2217
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 5: just phenomenal. They always find the open man. They have

2218
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 5: unorthodox body control, really, and I love them in the

2219
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 5: NCAA tournament for that because there's so many angles they create.

2220
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:57,679
Speaker 5: There's like two of the starters, especially the star player

2221
01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:00,639
Speaker 5: Tate Jones, are they grew up soccers and they picked

2222
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 5: up basketball later as teenagers, and so they have all

2223
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 5: these dynamic moves that they used to use as elite

2224
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 5: soccer players and they're doing them in the college basketball world.

2225
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 5: And I just noticed, you know, because I covered their

2226
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 5: MTE down in Daytona Beach, like these teams just don't

2227
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 5: know how to defend them, and there's not much you

2228
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 5: can do watching film to get ready for them. So

2229
01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 5: that's that's certainly a team I've had circled all year.

2230
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 5: And now you have to mention Colorado State if you

2231
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:26,639
Speaker 5: want to count them as a mid major. Obviously Mountain

2232
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 5: West is strong league, but not power Colorado State. I mean,

2233
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 5: if you run the numbers for the last six weeks

2234
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 5: of the season, including you know this run this weekend,

2235
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 5: they're coming in as and this is adjusted for strength

2236
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:40,840
Speaker 5: of opponent. They're coming in on Bartorvik's website as a

2237
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 5: top ten team nationally regardless of level. So I want

2238
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:49,639
Speaker 5: to see how much that translates. Obviously, a Nie Clifford

2239
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 5: is an elite, elite player, probably a pro. And when

2240
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 5: you have a pro or more, you've got a chance

2241
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 5: to really go far in the tournament. As long as

2242
01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 5: everybody's cohesive and connected. As a mid major team, that's

2243
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 5: the advantage they have over high major teams that might

2244
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 5: be a little more disjointed, maybe one foot in the door,

2245
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:09,800
Speaker 5: one foot out the door, thinking about the portal bag

2246
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:13,400
Speaker 5: next year, thinking about the draft. You know, these teams

2247
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:15,440
Speaker 5: that I just thought about, they don't have those problems.

2248
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. So to that point and to that end, you

2249
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:24,040
Speaker 4: talked about UCSD, Well, I mean you see Irvines won

2250
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 4: you know, twenty eight games this year, you had them

2251
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 4: hurt you off the top. Say you know you had

2252
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,839
Speaker 4: them as one of your first four out. Any chance

2253
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 4: that maybe they find a way in over one of

2254
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:39,519
Speaker 4: those less impressive major schools that has the built in

2255
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:42,920
Speaker 4: advantages but didn't really do anything to distinguish themselves along

2256
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 4: the way.

2257
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 5: I Mean, I'm not the most religious person, but I'll

2258
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 5: say a little prayer tonight for them, because in the

2259
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 5: old in the old days, that this is a team

2260
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 5: that would have been in without even a second look.

2261
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:00,040
Speaker 5: You know, if you went there's a website that I

2262
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 5: still track the old RPI, and I get it that's

2263
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 5: been gone since twenty eighteen. But it just blows you

2264
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:08,719
Speaker 5: away because they've won so many road games. Their RPI

2265
01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 5: coming into today was twenty eight. If their NET was

2266
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:13,599
Speaker 5: twenty eight, I don't think anybody'd be arguing about them.

2267
01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 5: We probably wouldn't even talking about them. They'd be like

2268
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 5: a eight, nine or ten seed. And so it's just

2269
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:22,919
Speaker 5: unfortunate because I don't think the way the NET measures

2270
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 5: some of the things that Irvine accomplished this year is

2271
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 5: quite it's doing a good job of telling their story,

2272
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 5: which is why when I get a chance, I do

2273
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 5: tell their story that you know, I think they've won

2274
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:38,599
Speaker 5: eighteen games away from home. They've only played nine home

2275
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 5: games all year long, and they only lost once this year.

2276
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 5: They've only lost once at home for two years. That

2277
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 5: was that great you see San Diego team, But they

2278
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 5: also got the win at UC San Diego, which is

2279
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:52,439
Speaker 5: a quad one a win. They lead the nation in

2280
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 5: road wins with fourteen true road wins. Four of those

2281
01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 5: registered in the top two quadrants. So it's not like

2282
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 5: they're nobody's they played, They played basketball and all every

2283
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 5: time zone in America, and they played a tournament in

2284
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 5: Canada and they just kept winning everywhere they went. So again,

2285
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 5: I would much rather prefer them over probably almost any

2286
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 5: team I listed. I do think San Diego State belongs

2287
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 5: because they beat Houston, they beat Creighton, and that still

2288
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:23,600
Speaker 5: has to matter for them. But for a lot of

2289
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 5: these other teams, you know, whether it's Oklahoma, even Indiana

2290
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 5: and Xavier and a West Virginia team that hasn't really

2291
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 5: been exactly as elite without debrees all the way since

2292
01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 5: back in the start of the year, you know, I'd

2293
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 5: much rather pull those teams out and replace them with

2294
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 5: Irvine personally. Unfortunately, there's probably not enough Rocos in that.

2295
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 2: Room last one for me, you know. And this is

2296
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:45,599
Speaker 2: a very broad, open ending question, so take it wherever

2297
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 2: you want. But is there a narrative of a story

2298
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 2: we've talked about one seeds bubble. Is there a narrative

2299
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:53,280
Speaker 2: or story that maybe either we're not talking about enough

2300
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:55,760
Speaker 2: right now, or that you could see us talking about

2301
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 2: coming out of the bracket when it's officially announced at

2302
01:51:58,080 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 2: six pm Eastern on Sunday.

2303
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 4: Enough yeah, I.

2304
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:05,640
Speaker 5: Think I think you're going to see Saint John's in Providence.

2305
01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 5: I think that's just going to be a wild scene

2306
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 5: for a full weekend. So I've been trying to tell

2307
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:13,559
Speaker 5: Saint Johns fans to buy all those tickets because we

2308
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 5: had that figured out about three weeks ago. And I

2309
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:18,960
Speaker 5: get it, that's probably not the story you need. You

2310
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:22,799
Speaker 5: probably already talking tons about Califari. Sorry on California and Patino?

2311
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 5: What am I talking about?

2312
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a.

2313
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 3: Question on that Rocco real quick.

2314
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I just want to make sure that I

2315
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 2: have this correct, because this I actually did not know. So,

2316
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 2: because there are so many SEC teams that are projected

2317
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 2: to be one in two seeds, Saint John's actually can't

2318
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:40,000
Speaker 2: get the number two seed in the East region, which

2319
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 2: is in Newark, obviously not far from home.

2320
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 3: Am I accurate on that?

2321
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:44,320
Speaker 5: You are accurate?

2322
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:44,759
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2323
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 5: Okay, then yeah. The rule is, so the rule is

2324
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 5: for each conference, if you're in the protected seed the

2325
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 5: protected seed zone, which is the first sixteen like they

2326
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:59,040
Speaker 5: did the top sixteen reveal in February, you have to

2327
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 5: go into seven regions until you sell them up. So

2328
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:04,040
Speaker 5: like with the SEC, they're going to fill them up

2329
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 5: within the first two seed lines because they've got Auburn, Florida, Alabama,

2330
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 5: and Tennessee. So with the other four teams, which we

2331
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 5: pretty we're pretty confident are going to be Houston and

2332
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 5: Sorry Duke in Houston on the one line, Michigan State

2333
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:19,839
Speaker 5: and Saint John's on the on the two line, Michigan

2334
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:21,720
Speaker 5: State and Saint John's have to go with Auburn and

2335
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 5: Florida whatever region they're in. Whatever region they're in. So

2336
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 5: for today I had Auburn with Saint John's in the South.

2337
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:29,600
Speaker 5: But for the first two rounds, of course, they're going

2338
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 5: to still be able to get their preferred spot Providence.

2339
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:34,840
Speaker 5: I think that'll be a wild scene with the way

2340
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:36,680
Speaker 5: that Johnny's are rolling at the garden. Just try to

2341
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 5: get all those people over to Providence should be a

2342
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 5: good advantage at least to get them to the sweet sixteen.

2343
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:43,760
Speaker 5: Then we'll see what happens if this is the case

2344
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:46,400
Speaker 5: and they end up in Atlanta. I think that's a good,

2345
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:49,080
Speaker 5: good storyline. You know, we'll see there's a lot of

2346
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:50,920
Speaker 5: things that just right themselves too, Like we'll have to

2347
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 5: see what the matchups look like. I've had a bunch

2348
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:57,600
Speaker 5: where Yale's playing Michigan. You know, if we got to

2349
01:53:57,720 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 5: Danny Wolfe storyline, that would be pretty fun. There's there's

2350
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 5: I mean, they just write themselves as you put it together.

2351
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 5: So we'll see who teams like Arkansas and Memphis. We've

2352
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 5: had Mattress with Memphis and Arkansas that would be pretty

2353
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:14,200
Speaker 5: huge regionally out in that part of the country. So yeah,

2354
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:15,600
Speaker 5: those are just a couple that come to mind, but

2355
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:19,640
Speaker 5: we've had several. I'm out in the Bay Area in California,

2356
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:22,760
Speaker 5: Like I think everybody that loves these teams, these really

2357
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 5: good teams like Saint Mary's UC San Diego. Everybody's dreading

2358
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Speaker 5: at Saint Mary's UC San Diego matchup. I get that's

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Speaker 5: not going to be a big concern nationally, but here locally,

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Speaker 5: I think everybody would be stressed out because those are

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Speaker 5: two very fundamentally sound basketball teams. We don't want to

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Speaker 5: see them take each other out.

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Speaker 2: Also seeing a few brackets with John Calperry and the

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Speaker 2: Arkansas Razorbacks going to rupp Arena for a regional there,

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Speaker 2: so I don't know, well, you know if that's gonna

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Speaker 2: ripen or not.

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Speaker 4: But but all right, we got to certainly in play.

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Speaker 2: Now it's in play, Rocco, we got to run in.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much again for your time these last

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Speaker 2: two nights. Make sure you're following Roco Miller on Twitter

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01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 2: at Miller eight on Twitter, and you'll be live on

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Speaker 2: the Field sixty eight broadcast network after the breakt comes

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Speaker 2: out on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're actually gonna be on live during the show,

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01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:16,080
Speaker 5: so we're right. Yeah, So thirty minutes before the show starts,

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Speaker 5: come on over to Field of sixty eight. We're going

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Speaker 5: to reveal our own bracket right before this show starts.

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01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 5: It'd be a good way to warm up, and you

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01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 5: can hang with us if you have your laptop out

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01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 5: and get your TV on CBS. We've done this four

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Speaker 5: th eight years, me and Jeff Goodman and another one

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01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 5: of our guys, Brad Walktel. So we're kind of going

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01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 5: to have a process of elimination format. So if you

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01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:41,200
Speaker 5: get to commercial and you're waiting for that last region,

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01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 5: you probably come over to ours. We'll be able to

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Speaker 5: tell you all the teams that they're probably gonna call

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01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:47,879
Speaker 5: and who's We usually can figure out who got snubbed

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01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 5: before the show's over, so if you like all that

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01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 5: insight or you just want to hear our reactions, it's

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01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 5: a lot of fun and it's also something you can

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01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:58,080
Speaker 5: go back and rewatch after the show's over.

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Speaker 2: He is Rocko Miller Roco Miller eight on Twitter and

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01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 2: you can follow him on Twitter and also Field to

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Speaker 2: sixty eight. Roco Man, We very much appreciate the time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, and yeah, probably talk to you again here

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Speaker 2: before the tournament's over.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: That sounds great, guys anytime. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Roco Miller Field to sixty eight. So

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Speaker 2: what we need to do. Let's get it right over

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Speaker 2: to the news desk. Steve Desager tell us what is

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01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:22,960
Speaker 2: trending to get one forty one Eastern time, my friend.

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Speaker 7: Speaking of the field, you see, San Diego is in

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Speaker 7: and in fact, according to stat Zinc, it is the

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Speaker 7: first school ever to have both its men's and women's

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Speaker 7: teams make the NCAA basketball tournament in the same year

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01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 7: in their first year of eligibility. In the late game

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01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,520
Speaker 7: tonight in men's hoops under four minutes to go and

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Speaker 7: the Whack Tournament Final, Grand Canyon is still leading first place.

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Speaker 7: Utah Valley seventy two to sixty two programming note, NASCAR

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01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:51,640
Speaker 7: is on FS one again Sunday. Michael McDowell earned the

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01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:55,000
Speaker 7: poll to What's going on on FS one right now?

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Speaker 7: Couple holes to play at Singapore in the live golf event.

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Speaker 7: Joaquin Neeman with now a five five stroke lead over

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01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 7: Brooks Keepka and the Dodgers have just been shut out

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01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 7: in their exhibition at the Tokyo Dome three nothing by

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Speaker 7: the han Chin Tigers, who beat the Cubs last night

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01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:12,520
Speaker 7: by a three to nothing final. Tonight, it was Blakesnell

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Speaker 7: taking the l for LA after three perfect innings five strikeouts,

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Speaker 7: he gave up a three run homer in the fourth.

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Speaker 7: Early this morning, our time in Japan, the Dodgers beat

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Speaker 7: the Tokyo Giants five to one. Shoho Tani homered in

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Speaker 7: a five run third. The Braves in Florida won seven

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Speaker 7: to three over the Red Sox today, the win to

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Speaker 7: Chris Saal six innings. He allowed two solo homers, nine

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Speaker 7: strikeouts and ten as Carlos Alcarez was upset in the

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Speaker 7: semifinals at Indian Wells, California. Now to the rest of

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Speaker 7: the college basketball from tonight. Number one Duke was down

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01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 7: five at the half, but still won the ACC Tournament

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01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:50,280
Speaker 7: final over Louisville seventy three sixty two. Saint John's took

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Speaker 7: the Big East Crown down five just before halftime, but

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01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:56,600
Speaker 7: beat Crayton eighty two to sixty six. Houston, the best

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Speaker 7: in the Big twelve, defeated Arizona in that championship game

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01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 7: seven sixty four. The Cougar started the season four and three,

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Speaker 7: including a couple of overtime losses twenty six and one.

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01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:11,880
Speaker 7: Since NBA Oklahoma City's shay gilgis Alexander with forty eight

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Speaker 7: points in a win at Detroit. Houston won at sixth straight,

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Speaker 7: Golden State won at seventh straight, and Washington edge Denver

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01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 7: on a game winning three pointer from Jordan Pool. Nicola

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01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 7: Jokic forty points in defeat NHL Carolina won at seventh

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01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:27,720
Speaker 7: straight game five nothing at Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve, the Saga have a great

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01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:34,640
Speaker 2: evening day. Saga will be back tomorrowste Uh and uh

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Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Radio, Aer toors Jason Martin. One

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01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:40,240
Speaker 2: segment left still a ton to get to Fox Sports thirty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Big Night in.

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Speaker 2: Saint John's, Your Big East tournament champions You saw it

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Speaker 2: on Fox first time since nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: J Martin I discussed earlier.

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01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 2: Can you the argument Rick Patino sixth team he's taken

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01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:05,480
Speaker 2: to an NCAA tournament, fifth team that he has won

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Speaker 2: a conference tournament championship with. Never gonna have the stats

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Speaker 2: of a wooden eer coach. K But maybe you know,

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01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:13,920
Speaker 2: greatest guy to ever carry a whistle on a college

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Speaker 2: basketball sideline, Saint John's Big East Tournament Champs, Duke ACC

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01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:23,280
Speaker 2: Tournament Champs, Houston Big Twelve Tournament Champs, among many others.

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01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:28,360
Speaker 2: And we are now about nineteen hours away from having

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Speaker 2: a bracket in hand ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, sixty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's you know, a little bit more than sixty

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Speaker 2: minutes at this point. But yeah, by the way, should

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Speaker 2: mention a couple things before we get out of here?

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Speaker 2: Like basketball tractor supply knows that a winning season takes practice, teamwork,

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Speaker 2: and a can do attitude.

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Speaker 3: It's bracket challenge, says it Payball.

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Speaker 2: com to register and get rules. The winning bracket in

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio Bracket Challenge will win a twenty

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Speaker 2: your bracket between Sunday night and Thursday morning before the

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Speaker 2: games begin at Fox Sports radio dot com. It's all

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Speaker 2: sponsored by Tractor Supply for Life out Here should also

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Speaker 2: match you. Make sure to download the podcast. It will

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02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:23,680
Speaker 2: be available shortly after the show. Producer Bree in the

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Speaker 2: Lab right now editing that puppy up. You can find

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02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:28,880
Speaker 2: it anywhere you get your podcasts. Talked a lot of

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02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:31,360
Speaker 2: Duke talked, a lot of Saint John's talked a little

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02:00:31,400 --> 02:00:34,840
Speaker 2: bit of Aaron Rodgers, had Rocko Miller bracketologist.

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02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:37,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, busy three hours.

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Speaker 2: Jmart flew on by how excited you to have a

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Speaker 2: bracket in your hand tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:44,800
Speaker 4: To be fun. Like I said, I'm more excited about

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02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:48,280
Speaker 4: this tournament than I have been in the last handful

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02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:51,520
Speaker 4: of years. For sure. I just I've watched more college

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02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:53,600
Speaker 4: hoops this year, but I've also just enjoyed it more.

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Speaker 4: I feel like there's a lot more depth. There's a

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02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 4: lot more teams that can cause some trouble. And it's

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02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:04,240
Speaker 4: not because everybody is mediocre, which I've argued in years past.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just I think it's just generally a

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02:01:06,160 --> 02:01:10,320
Speaker 4: higher level of basketball, and it's been a little less

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02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:13,960
Speaker 4: reliant on the three ball, thankfully then maybe it had

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02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:16,000
Speaker 4: been in a few years past. There's still plenty of them,

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Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, but I've just felt I've just

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Speaker 4: felt more entertained by the product, and there's a there's

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Speaker 4: such a different feeling watching college ball and the effort

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02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:29,720
Speaker 4: and the energy and how much those guys appear to

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Speaker 4: care at all times, which you know, we talked about

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02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:34,200
Speaker 4: as it relates to the NBA, and it's it's the

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Speaker 4: biggest problem. It's the thing the NBA has to find

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Speaker 4: a way to fix. It's just how they come across,

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Speaker 4: whether or not it's even accurate, it's almost irrelevant to

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Speaker 4: what it looks like and how it comes across, and

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Speaker 4: it just doesn't ever feel that way in college basketball,

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Speaker 4: and the tournament should be great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking now among the top fifteen teams in scoring

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Speaker 2: in college basketball, Alabama number one, Lord to number seven,

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Speaker 2: Auburn number ten, Duke number fifteen. So I mean, in theory,

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Speaker 2: those won't be your four number one seeds, but all

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Speaker 2: of those teams were good enough to get number one seeds,

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Speaker 2: and so you just talk about a higher level from

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Speaker 2: the top teams. I mean, there's been teams in the

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Speaker 2: past that could put up one hundred, but you know,

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Speaker 2: were they a team that could really win it? And

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Speaker 2: I think all those teams are probably good enough to

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Speaker 2: do so. By the way, Kentucky, Gonzaga among others in

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Speaker 2: Missouri as well, top ten in the country in scoring.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of high quality basketball and it has

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Speaker 2: been a lot of fun. Brackets are out at six

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern on Sunday. By the way, Dan Byer and

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Speaker 2: I will be on here on Fox Sports ready to

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Speaker 2: whin the bracket is released. Yeah, so I got j

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Speaker 2: Mart you know, fun show. I think we hit on everything.

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Speaker 2: You know if you missed. By the way, we did

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Speaker 2: a little Miles Garrett on Friday night with when we

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02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:50,560
Speaker 2: were filling in for Jason and Mike.

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Speaker 3: We talked a little bit about Demark Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: Anything really quick that we missed on, anything going into

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Speaker 2: Okay Iowa.

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Speaker 3: Sam has something that he needs to share.

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Speaker 12: It's weird when the UVM Catamounts are not in the

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Speaker 12: NCAA Tournament and it's the Bryant Bulldogs who are the

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Speaker 12: America East champions. Sure, I mean Vermont cornered the market

2540
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Speaker 12: the American East Tournament every year, but this year no.

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Speaker 3: And Arnie Spanier. Is just tough day for Arnie Spanier.

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Speaker 2: Arizona Wildcats losing the Big twelve championship game Virginia or Vermont,

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02:03:22,120 --> 02:03:23,560
Speaker 2: excuse me, is not in By the way, we do

2544
02:03:23,600 --> 02:03:26,760
Speaker 2: have one game still going on. Grand Canyon up nine

2545
02:03:27,160 --> 02:03:29,080
Speaker 2: with thirty five seconds to go. They just got an

2546
02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:33,320
Speaker 2: offensive rebound, fast breaking and they have now taken an

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02:03:33,320 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 2: eleven point lead with twenty nine seconds to go. Grand

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Speaker 2: Canyon will win the Whack Championship, go back to the

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Speaker 2: NCAA Tournament. Last year they upset Saint Mary's in round one.

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Speaker 3: We gotta get out of real fast.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna miss Greg gumbele.

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Speaker 2: Oh rip Greg Gumble. That is really sad. He was

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Speaker 2: the host of the bracket show. Rest in peace, Greg

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Speaker 2: mc gumble. Sad to not have him. We gotta get

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Speaker 2: out of here. Thank the crew. Download the podcast. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports radio