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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, twelve, Episode

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Speaker 1: two of Dirt Daily Night guyst a production of by

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This here's a podcast where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness and say, officially, off

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Speaker 1: the top, fuck the Cooke brothers and their coke industries,

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Speaker 1: and fuck Fox News. It's not Friday's it not? It's Tuesday?

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Speaker 1: December ten, two thousand nineteen. My name's Jack O'Brien, a k.

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Speaker 1: Jack O'Brian, Jack O'Brian, host of g d Zy with

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Speaker 1: hot takes and hands that shake and and ask you

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Speaker 1: just can't see. Oh, Jack O'Brian, Jack O'Brian, love that

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Speaker 1: Mountain dew, prayers for impeachment of that on Presidential fool

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Speaker 1: Surtasy pot morn and I'm thrilled to be joined as

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Speaker 1: always by my co host, Mr Miles Gras smoke Queed.

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Speaker 1: Like mys watching it of something ninety days, I really

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Speaker 1: don't think it's strong enough. No use move we like

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Speaker 1: was watching Love Okay, thank you too, Taylor Fleming for

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Speaker 1: that share inspired aka watching Love the uh Netflix? Uh

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Speaker 1: yeah that too, big Paul Rusts fan, so I had

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Speaker 1: to tune in for that more of my nineties bay

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Speaker 1: just generally, but yeah, shout out to what did jut

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Speaker 1: up to? The executive produce it? Yeah, peoplere like how

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Speaker 1: many people in this? Right? Yeah? I remember that was

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Speaker 1: somebody after about five episodes was like, wait, this is

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Speaker 1: interesting because, if I recall correctly, was believed by share

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Speaker 1: of an episode we did with our guests today talking

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Speaker 1: about the year ninety nine. Yes, anyway, it was circle Baby,

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Speaker 1: it is full circle. Well, that guest that you're speaking of, Miles,

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Speaker 1: who did an episode about the year, is none other

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Speaker 1: than the hilarious and talented comedian and podcast host and

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Speaker 1: advanced degree having film. Uh, come on, you're doing so

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Speaker 1: good intellectual. Uh. She is Latin dancer U t I.

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Speaker 1: She is Caitlin Dorante today for us, Yeah, dancer U

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Speaker 1: t I is uh the anagram for Caitlin Dorante as

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Speaker 1: is a identical runt and a deliriant cunt and those

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Speaker 1: are those are courtesy of Bob Dad and his son Harlie. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Bob Dad. Charlie came up with the

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Speaker 1: delirium cunt one. Wow. Okay, that's just his Twitter handle. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Bob Dad and Charlie. Um well, I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, but he emailed me and he was like,

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Speaker 1: I want you and is his email handle Bob Dad

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Speaker 1: and his son Charlie? You know what, I don't know

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Speaker 1: Bob Dad And he just said just yeah, And I said, who,

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Speaker 1: what's your Twitter handle? Twitt hand? Someone turned it a

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Speaker 1: little full year old. I said, what's your Twitter handle?

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Speaker 1: And he's like, I don't use Twitter that much, but

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Speaker 1: if you just credit Bob Dad and Charlie, that'll be great,

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Speaker 1: like a rock duo animated series? Is that like a

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Speaker 1: New Lisa Hannah Walt show? WHENHO did bo Jack? Alright, Caitlin,

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Speaker 1: we're going to get to know you even better than

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Speaker 1: we already do in a moment. But first we're gonna

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Speaker 1: tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the continued fallout from the bombshell

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Speaker 1: Peloton ad Peloton ad. Yeah, you noticed that I got

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Speaker 1: nervous there that I was pronouncing it incredibly well, But

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Speaker 1: I don't know howell in pellet peloton and I was

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Speaker 1: just working with you more. I appreciate it. Uh well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's can just continued fallout from that. I love that.

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Speaker 1: It's this is I don't know how we're getting multiple

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Speaker 1: either Peloton Pelletan has uh a really bad marketing department

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Speaker 1: and a really bad legal department also, or they are

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Speaker 1: just like Galaxy mind on this ship and they're doing

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Speaker 1: unbiable as a Christmas major, considering they lost one and

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Speaker 1: a half billion dollars in valuation. No, but see a

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Speaker 1: long term they're playing nine D chess Man. It's like

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Speaker 1: talk about all that and plenty moore. But first, Caitlin,

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that's revealing about

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Speaker 1: who you are? I searched for Red Herring movie examples,

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Speaker 1: like examples of Red Herrings and movies because I've been

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Speaker 1: developing a screenwriting class. Again, I I hate to bring

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Speaker 1: have the screenwriting class that I am like developing curriculum

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Speaker 1: was looking for examples. What's a good one? Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: the first Harry Potter movie, Snape Professor Snape is a

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Speaker 1: red herring, right, because you think he's that guy's a fish.

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Speaker 1: Yeah's exactly. I don't watch this Stuff's next. I thought

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Speaker 1: something you think is under rag? Oh? I just want

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Speaker 1: person who teaches a screenwriting class and doesn't just xerox

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Speaker 1: a class because there never Man, I've seen some ship

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Speaker 1: we haven't read story by Robert McKee and you're you're

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Speaker 1: extracting that into like a print out and then being like,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this part. Are you teaching Robert McKee

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Speaker 1: are actually do we research. That's the mark of a

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Speaker 1: true educator, someone with a master's degree that was not

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Speaker 1: purchased online. Verified. And if you're interested in taking my

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Speaker 1: screenwriting classes out there, listeners, I have one new sections

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Speaker 1: starting in January. So go to my website Caitlin dot

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Speaker 1: what is Rosebud considered a red heron or is that

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Speaker 1: that's almost more of a mcguffin. Mcguffin. Yeah, okay, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the difference. You better take my class.

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Speaker 1: I thought was just the proper name for a different

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Speaker 1: is a proper name for a crime dog? Sure? Was

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Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated? Um? Women having

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Speaker 1: What the water is warm? Well, it's the maintenance is

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Speaker 1: But like I think, like for women especially, there's this

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Speaker 1: and that's actual hair. And then there's also this idea

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Speaker 1: But like I don't know, I just it's so easy.

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Speaker 1: Ghostbusters as a franchise is overrated. I know. Off have

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Speaker 1: that had been the pitch turns out there's a ghost.

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Speaker 1: There's a ghost. I mean, you're not far off. They

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Speaker 1: that's a ghost trap in it. And there's the allusions

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Speaker 1: to the movies from the eighties. But they're like, there

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Speaker 1: ghosts they're not coming from New York. They're coming from Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: And they use like some of the stuff actually happening

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00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: she's so nervous about the idea of Peloton in a

421
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: way that makes Peloton seem like more loaded almost. And

422
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: then just to your point, Caitlin, the application is no,

423
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: it's none of that, Like I don't like the way

424
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: you look. It's that I think your life needs more

425
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: meaning me like what you seem just going through the

426
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: motions here on this peloton and let a woman with

427
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: an eight pack screaming iPad and now you have reached

428
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: a higher level of enlightenment. So this has been a

429
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: story since they dropped this viral marketing campaign round Thanksgiving.

430
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: People were just there's just like something ineffably fucked up

431
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: about the whole world and which she d takes place.

432
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: I feel like all the takes at the beginning of

433
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: last week, we're like, did y'all see that? And then

434
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: hold on, let's break this down. Was like around Tuesday Wednesday,

435
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: then it's like, what the fun Peloton? Then yeah, they

436
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: lost a billion dollars in market capitalization or market value

437
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: because uh well it was a couple of things. One,

438
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: this was part of their campaign to like bring Peloton

439
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 1: to the masses, and so they were lowering their price

440
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: while also like you know, breaking out this brilliant marketing strategy,

441
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: and people were like, oh, that's this is not going

442
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,239
Speaker 1: to be good for you, and so they lost over

443
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: a billion dollars. Uh. And now there's some continued fallout,

444
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: the third wave of fall right, third wave peloton edge activism.

445
00:29:53,280 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: So the wife from the ad, the error protagonist exactly. Uh.

446
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: She is appearing in a new gin ad aviation gin

447
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: Aviation gin from Ryan Reynolds. So you know the fact

448
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: that it was tweeted by Ryan Reynolds helped this ad

449
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: like immediately gain traction. And then it's just a pretty

450
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: straightforward ad where she appears to be somebody who has

451
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: the worst husband in the world, out for drinks with

452
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: her friends. Here. Actually, let's take another So we're back,

453
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: we're back. We've watched the gin ad. It's when I

454
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: watch it again, it's little, it's a lot darker. Actually,

455
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: oh yeah, because well she's toasting two new beginnings, which

456
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: and she has like a you know, the thousand yard

457
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: stare that people have after they come back from war.

458
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: So there is sort of an implication that her marriage

459
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: has fallen up, her marriage to the guy who her,

460
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: because I guess if we're if this is the reality

461
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: for in the same advertising universe, this woman was in

462
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: a terrible relationship with a potentially abusive partner. Her friends

463
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 1: are now all by her side, saying, let's drink. Are

464
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: they're acting very awkward to like they like, maybe the

465
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: situation is so intense they might not even be equipped

466
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: to be there for her, right, So I don't know

467
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: that it feels the way they're so awkward about it

468
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: almost makes me think that the reality is much darker

469
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: than even the one in the Peloton ad. And then

470
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Speaker 1: I'm also like, well, then what's Ryan Reynolds doing now

471
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: with like the like writing this wave of criticism to

472
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: then be like, yeah, dude, she's a she's a haunted woman.

473
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: Drink this gin? Right? Yeah, another lay she's being like

474
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: doubly exploited, a like get her to be the victim

475
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: for my gin commercial. Yeah. The Peloton ad, the initial

476
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: Peloton ad has become a text that you can then

477
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: assume everybody understands the implication of basically uh and of

478
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: course they're weird capitalists motives and you know, alternate UH

479
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: ideas beneath the surface. But even the husband now has

480
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: stepped out and is complaining. So Peloton clearly didn't sign

481
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: the performers in their original ad to any sort of

482
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: like n d A or uh non com anything, and

483
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: they're just openly shitting all over the original Peloton ad

484
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: that was released like a week ago. The guy who

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00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: played faceless husband Sean Hunter. He is an actor and

486
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: elementary school teacher in Vancouver. There's a lot of Vancouver

487
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: energy going on because Ryan Reynolds also from Vancouver to

488
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: like this must have been a Canadian production, which is

489
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: how he probably knew all these actors anyway. So in

490
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: it he has been talking about how his like life

491
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: has just basically not been upended, but he thought things

492
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: were going in a much different direction prior to it.

493
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: In the beginning, people were so stoked for him. They're like,

494
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, you're gonna be part of this huge

495
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: ad campaign. You made it, he said. He quote. My

496
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: acting coach messaged me after seeing the video and said

497
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: that I looked great. We shared a positive discussion about

498
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: my part in the commercial, and her advice helped me

499
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: endeavor of me and my endeavor of becoming a better actor.

500
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Speaker 1: As I hold her opinion highly a few of my

501
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: comments or my friends came in, and the overall consensus

502
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: was that it was awesome. But a few days ago

503
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: that all changed. Reviews from my friends stopped. As the

504
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: video went viral, I soon noticed that the commercial had

505
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: several thousand down votes. As the tweets came out and

506
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: talk shows weighed in. Quote absolutely chance that the husband

507
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: in the peloton ad is abusive end quote quote. She

508
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: would rather be anywhere else in the world than here

509
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: in her glacial home with the husband she loads. End quote.

510
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe what I was seeing. My five seconds

511
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: of airtime created an array of malicious feedback that is

512
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: all associated with my face. My friend texted me to

513
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: day today declaring that I'm quote a symbol of the

514
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: patriarchy end quote quote. We have the chance to make

515
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: hashtag peloton husband a meme. As my face continues to

516
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: be a screenshot online, I wonder what repercussions will come

517
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: back to me. I pride myself on being a great

518
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: teacher and developing actor. Blah blah blah blah blah. So

519
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: he was sort of going on with like, I honestly

520
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: didn't say anything. I didn't, you know, I'm fucking this dude,

521
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: I'm the evil, I'm Peloton husband. Yeah. And then did

522
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: you see the statement from the child who plays the

523
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: five year old that's the only other person. Yeah, but

524
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: she has not come out and said anything, or the

525
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: instructor on the bike who said her name, which she

526
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: says my name, she goes, actually she looks haunted. That'd

527
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: be great if that's what the instructor said. I mean,

528
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: if I had to hazard a guess, it would be

529
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: that the creative team behind this ad was predominantly men,

530
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: and that they did I know, and that they didn't

531
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: really think about what the implications of the ad would be. Uh.

532
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: Nor did apparently the people participating in the ad, And

533
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of times it's like they

534
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: need a paycheck, you know, they're struggling actors, and then

535
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: they'll get what roles are given to them. But I mean,

536
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: the guy who plays a husband just being like, I

537
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: can't believe it. It's like, well, did you read the script?

538
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: Did you see the all? I wondered too, because it's

539
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: probably a lot harder to glean from the script like

540
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: you could in your mind if you're thinking in terms

541
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: of how ad would actually operate like, Oh, it's about

542
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: this woman who gets a bike and she's so she

543
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: loves her life now, right, And but then when you

544
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: see how it's edited and how she's being directed, because

545
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: he was probably only there for those two shots, like

546
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: one when she comes down the stairs and the next

547
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: one when they're on the couch, So I don't know

548
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: how he saw that. Not to defend him, but I

549
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: also but from to your point, the way it is

550
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: written is from a dude who thinks the way to

551
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: solve your issue if you're unhappy with how your wife

552
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: looks is to get her an exercise bike, and there's

553
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: no examination of what that means to how you look

554
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: at a relationship, how you view someone's agency to be

555
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: of whatever physical shape they want to be, because it's

556
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: sort of like, yeah, get that and then she's gonna

557
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: love it, and then boom, you're you're like a winner. Right,

558
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: But it's so unclear because even their point of view

559
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: is so murky. The commercials, well, they've written the ad

560
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: so that she is resistant to the idea of peloton

561
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: to begin with, so by implication, like you're getting this

562
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: idea that he is pushing her towards this. She wasn't like,

563
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: I want a peloton peloton, and then he got her

564
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: a peloton and then she was like this is to me,

565
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: it's like my first ride. I'm so it's like you're

566
00:36:54,200 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 1: not about to go skydiving and like freation, you're free

567
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: to stop it anytime, right, And I mean there's also

568
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: another sort of miscalculation on the part of the men

569
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: who made this ad is that, like I think with

570
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: other active hobbies that this ad could have worked. But

571
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: there's something dystopian about a stationary anything like something where

572
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: you're just like working like a rat at a wheel,

573
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: like on a wheel, just like working, and there's a

574
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: like person who like says your name and you're being judged,

575
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: like there is something inherent genera. There literally is a

576
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: Black Mirror episode about this. Isn't also in like uh

577
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: Keimi Schmidt, like the confinement that they're in at the beginning,

578
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: isn't there some sort of like exercise bike that like

579
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, it's like a generator and they just

580
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: have to keep going. That's actually like one of the

581
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: darker like philosophical moments is because she's like I just

582
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: keep pretending like the next crank is the last one,

583
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: and then I can just go as hard as I

584
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: possibly can. And that's actually like true of endurance athletes,

585
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: like if you have a worse memory, or like if

586
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: people who have certain like damage to their brain are

587
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: really good distance runners because they just are purely in

588
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: the moment and aren't thinking about like how much longer

589
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: this is gonna be, Like give me very deep stuff

590
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: about how awful exercises I can't. I honestly feel like

591
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: we could do a whole episode on this card. I

592
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: think this should be the podcast from now on. And

593
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: that's just the non well investigative journalism into the reality

594
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: of which these people live. We're always looking for ways

595
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: into the zeitgeist, and I think this add for whatever reason,

596
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: has proven to be what so many things, because it's

597
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: the advertising. It's this bike that so many people either

598
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: swear by with this form of exercise, and like it's

599
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: it's everything. Yeah, I mean like in the future, like

600
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: hundreds of years from now, I feel like the thing

601
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: that people will study to understand our culture will probably

602
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: be advertisements because it's like, yeah, they're like the most money,

603
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: the most like energy, and like you know, thinking that

604
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: our society is doing going into like, you know, appealing

605
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: to people and making statements about people. Well, also, in

606
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: a hundred years, I think everyone will have a peloton

607
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: because we'll all be living in like underground because we

608
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: fucked the environment. I'm so badly that we can't live

609
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: above ground. So like, yeah, yeah, you've got to get

610
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: a stationary bike. Will all be powering the hydrogen generation? Caitlyn,

611
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I mean number two to three eight c D.

612
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: What time is your labor shift? Wait? Do trees generate

613
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: hydrogen or oxygen? Oxygen? Oxygen? That's yeah, yeah, sorry, I

614
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: get those mixed up. Um, someone doesn't have a master's triology. Yeah, terriology.

615
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: All right. So in in the remaining few minutes that

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Speaker 1: we have for our second section, where we usually discussed

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Speaker 1: the hard hitting stories, Miles, you are are hard hitting,

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Speaker 1: expert hard What do you want to what do you

619
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Speaker 1: want to cover? I mean in terms of impeachment, I'm

620
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: talking about impeaching this creed. Thank you. I feel I

621
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: don't know right now. It's the yesterday and the Judiciary

622
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: Committee they were doing the hearings where the legal counsel

623
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: to each side from the Intel Committee hearings was basically

624
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: laying out their case in front of the committee, and

625
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: it was just basically on one side, you have the

626
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: Democrat lawyer basically laying out of an actual legal case

627
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: and an arguments as to like this is what said,

628
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Speaker 1: this is why we believe it's an abusive power, this

629
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: is why you need to impeach them. And then the

630
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: Republican lawyer castor that just guy goes up and just

631
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: like says work set reads things as if they're bad,

632
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Speaker 1: like just the tone so like as an innocuous sentence

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Speaker 1: of But then in June of twenty nineteen, the President

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Speaker 1: told Zalinski that he wasn't going to allow the aid

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Speaker 1: to flow unless he investigated the bidens. Now I don't know,

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Speaker 1: like you just said the bad part about in the

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Speaker 1: form of like you're questioning it. It was very frustrating

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Speaker 1: and just such yeah, and they like so cynical. They

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Speaker 1: have the same so they adopting the same sort of

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Speaker 1: outraged tone of like cross examining that Democrats used for

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Speaker 1: people who were actually revealing details. And I get it's

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Speaker 1: thet yeah, but they are like, as you pointed out

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Speaker 1: yesterday when we came in, they the Republicans were doing

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Speaker 1: the same thing to the Democratic lawyer, uh like doing

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Speaker 1: like an exasperated Southern lawyer who's just outraged at the

647
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Speaker 1: clear guiltiness and irrationality of the people he's questioning. But

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Speaker 1: his question was, how did you find out that Nunas

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Speaker 1: was making these phone calls? Hartness? And it's basically like

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Speaker 1: who told you that? Why? Why? Why did you decide

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Speaker 1: to do that? Right? But like would the thing that

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Speaker 1: like I'm successfully found your crime because I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: it and I go, wait, what's this DC number? Right?

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Speaker 1: Hold on what Devin nuna Yeah? But who told you

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Speaker 1: to do that? Right you? Adam Shift? It's like, why

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Speaker 1: does that? I don't know, man, are you disputing the

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Speaker 1: call or what? Because he's just mad that we found out. Right,

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Speaker 1: So it's just a ton of you know, it goes on.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll be even more nonsense coming out of there,

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Speaker 1: but it's you know a lot of gish galloping shout

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Speaker 1: out to Andrew. Yeah, but then without any without any

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00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: substance to latch onto like usually if you're doing that,

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00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: hitting someone with a bunch of wrong takes, So you

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Speaker 1: like overwhelmed them with how they're going to rebut everything.

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Speaker 1: There are things you can catch onto. But this was

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Speaker 1: just sort of like say, he was just saying a

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00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that I wasn't even sure what the

668
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: logic he said that. He said that the Democratic lawyer

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Speaker 1: had donated millions to Democrats, and he had to like

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Speaker 1: stop and like one of the Democratic uh you know people,

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Speaker 1: one of the Democratic politicians had to seed time so

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Speaker 1: that he could be like, I didn't donate anywhere close

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Speaker 1: to a million dollars? What the funk are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: And then like go through systematically, but by the end

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Speaker 1: of his like systematic refutation of something that was shouted

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Speaker 1: at him in like fifteen seconds in a Southern accident,

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Speaker 1: you're kind of like, alright, nerd whatever, like onto the

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Speaker 1: next thing. The other thing, too, is that guy cast

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Speaker 1: or the Republicans lawyer, he just had like the flimsiest defense,

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Speaker 1: Like he really like when he was talking about I

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Speaker 1: can rebut all these assertions or like these claims about

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Speaker 1: the president's behavior. The one he's really trying to go for,

683
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: which is like a total lie verifiably a fabrication. Is

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Speaker 1: this defense of Trump of like, why this whole thing

685
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Speaker 1: isn't bad. He goes, at the time of the July call,

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Speaker 1: senior officials in Kiev did not know that the security

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Speaker 1: assistance was paused. They did not learn it was paused

688
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Speaker 1: until the pause was reported publicly in the U S

689
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Speaker 1: on August and basically saying that that his idea is

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Speaker 1: that that matters because if the Ukrainians didn't know, then

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Speaker 1: there's no way there could have been any coercion on

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Speaker 1: the on the side of Trump. However, and then what

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Speaker 1: he says to back this up, He goes Kurt Volker,

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Speaker 1: who actually testified in front of the Intel Committee, said

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Speaker 1: his testimony was, quote, I believe that the Ukrainians became

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Speaker 1: aware of the hold on August twenty nine, not before.

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Speaker 1: That is the first date, or that's the first time

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Speaker 1: any of them asked me about the hold. But then

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Speaker 1: after the next day after Volker said that one of

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Speaker 1: the officials from the Pentagon was completely just blew that

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Speaker 1: narrative up and said that on the July the call,

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Speaker 1: the date of the call, her staff was informed at

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Speaker 1: the pen have gone on that day that the State

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Speaker 1: Department told the Pentagon that the Ukrainian embassy the of

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Speaker 1: diplomatic body that is in the United States asked them, like,

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Speaker 1: what what's going on? We are aware of this situation, right,

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Speaker 1: but they are still be like, well, they didn't know,

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Speaker 1: and that's why it can't be abusive power. Right. But

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Speaker 1: then we're saying, no, they did know. What what are

710
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Speaker 1: you saying, sir? And then he'll continue to be like

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Speaker 1: but then on July the embassy said they were aware

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Speaker 1: of a situation. Yeah, I asked my case. Right. It's

713
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Speaker 1: all about impeachment process and the idea of a functioning media,

714
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Speaker 1: like somebody who's paying attention to all of this and

715
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Speaker 1: giving you like a summary of what is happening has

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00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: all just broken apart because through entire Republican side is

717
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: just like full of bad faith, like running out the

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Speaker 1: clock and just saying things to have something out there

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Speaker 1: that can be turned into a sound by it on

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Speaker 1: Fox News. And Yeah, the thing that you saw too

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Speaker 1: is when uh Goldman, the lawyer for the Democrats, was

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Speaker 1: presenting his case, is like, oh, there's facts on this

723
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Speaker 1: side of this argument or this debate, and when the

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Speaker 1: Republicans go up castor was basically trying to use legal

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Speaker 1: ease to like articulate a rebuttal which was just simply

726
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Speaker 1: not like but in fancy words. There was nothing of

727
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Speaker 1: substance that actually refuted anything. It's just it's a mess.

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Speaker 1: Look bottom line, the president of uses power to coerce

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Speaker 1: a government to launch an illegal investigation that would help

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Speaker 1: him in he's cheating at the election. YEA, yeah exactly.

731
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Speaker 1: And I get it. People are so worn down. They're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, and there's like kids dying at the border,

733
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Speaker 1: and like we don't give a funk about the rest

734
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Speaker 1: of the earth. Yeah, what else is new? And that's

735
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Speaker 1: the problem we're at is because it's just throwing on

736
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Speaker 1: the fucking pile of a bunch of ships that has

737
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Speaker 1: everybody completely disillusioned and disheartened about this whole situation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I keep thinking back about that New York article

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Speaker 1: I talked about sometimes this Rebecca Mead is like a

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Speaker 1: journalist who's from London who became a US citizen right

741
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Speaker 1: before Trump became president but then moved back. And her

742
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Speaker 1: partner is somebody who's like an expert on like the

743
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: rise of Nazism, and he he realized, like right when

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Speaker 1: the Republicans started opposing Obamacare and just like their perspective

745
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: came untethered from reality. He was like, Oh, we're headed

746
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Speaker 1: in a direction where like this whole system is completely broken,

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Speaker 1: Like this is going to be like the rise of

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Speaker 1: like authoritarianism essentially, and like you realized that when Obamacare

749
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Speaker 1: was like being approved, and it just seems like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the things that he recognized back then are the things

751
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: that are now coming to bear like that. Trump is

752
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: just aware and like the Republicans who support Trump are

753
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: just aware like, oh, yeah, you there's nothing to hold

754
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: us accountable if we have this file snows thing like

755
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: there you can impeach us. Yeah, well, because the second

756
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: it truly does be like okay, now we have to compete.

757
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: We have reality, and then we have the thing that

758
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: helps sounded rationalized, like why you think a certain way

759
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: I was known as reality? Right, all right, we're gonna

760
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: take a another quick break and we'll be right back.

761
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: And we're back, and there's continued fall out we I

762
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Speaker 1: think on yesterday's episode, we're talking about the IG report

763
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Speaker 1: that bar Head you know, tried to put together, done

764
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: everything in his power to get a report that made

765
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Speaker 1: it seem as though the beginning of the Russia investigation

766
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Speaker 1: was corrupt, and that Yeah, everything President Trump says is

767
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: true essentially, so he doesn't have to look like some

768
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: one who's dealing conspiracy theories and object corruption. And we said,

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Speaker 1: you know, we know, we got trailers teasers last week saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, this report is not gonna be as

771
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Speaker 1: sexy as you thought. It's gonna be pretty fact based,

772
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Speaker 1: in which case there is no deep state issue here

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00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: and it was a fully legal investigation. So now the

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Speaker 1: report has officially been released, and I will just read

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Speaker 1: this one line from the Department of Justice Inspector General

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Speaker 1: Michael Horowitz, referring to the investigations into George Papadopolis, Michael Flynn,

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Speaker 1: Paul Manaford Carter page the beginnings of the Russia investigation. Quote,

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Speaker 1: we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political

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Speaker 1: bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the

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Speaker 1: four individual investigations. Oh no, that's the opposite. Bill Barr

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00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 1: wanted to hear. There's an FBI deep state problem where

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00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: Democrats are wielding their law enforcement abilities to smear this

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Speaker 1: pro is a wired tup and all this just say

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Speaker 1: there wasn't like a technical like technically something wrong that happened.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't find any evidence of political bias or even

786
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Speaker 1: improper motivation. Yeah, they they did find one very low

787
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Speaker 1: level lawyer who completely fucked up on some paperwork with

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Speaker 1: Carter Page, his surveillors, FISA warrant or his visa order.

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Speaker 1: But the thing with that is that even if you

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Speaker 1: even take that part, it wasn't necessarily a h an

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Speaker 1: integral part of that investigation. Even if you remove that,

792
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Speaker 1: a lot of the information that came out is completely

793
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Speaker 1: it's inconsequential. So Bill Barr, of course he's summary, how

794
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Speaker 1: does he saw what he did to them report where

795
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: he's like completely exonerates the president, and it was like, no,

796
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Speaker 1: well he did the exact same thing. This is what

797
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: Bill Barr says. The Inspector General's report now makes clear

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Speaker 1: that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a US

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Speaker 1: presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view,

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Speaker 1: were insufficient to justify the steps taken. So okay is closed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, essentially it's really fucked up. This is like,

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Speaker 1: this is exactly the kind of Attorney General that Trump

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Speaker 1: wanted when uh Jeff Sessions was in office. It was

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Speaker 1: like someone who's like, I need you to just be

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Speaker 1: my hype man. I need you to be split star

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Speaker 1: of the flip most squad and fucking just scream it

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Speaker 1: out from the side and back me up when I

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Speaker 1: do this ship. I need to be the street corner colonel.

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Speaker 1: But then this is what he has now, someone who

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Speaker 1: literally goes the first line of the idea board. We

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Speaker 1: did not find documentary, documentary, testimonial evidence. Then he says

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Speaker 1: the inspector, I mean, it's now makes clear that launched

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Speaker 1: an intrusive Yeah. So it's just it is, uh what

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Speaker 1: we thought it was. Yeah, And I guess this is

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00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: again another person why we need to complete we need

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Speaker 1: to be looking at Bill Barr's actions among everyone else,

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00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: because there's so many people involved at this point, at

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Speaker 1: every level to try and obscure like our reality or

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Speaker 1: what's what the president's motivations are and things like that.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean, there's not a single person here who

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00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: isn't completely just uh fully swamp dnide at this point.

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Speaker 1: The words of the movie The Irishman, it is what

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Speaker 1: it is, or it's what it is they said, it's

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Speaker 1: it's what it is, and they say it multiple times

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Speaker 1: in a way that implies that that is like the

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Speaker 1: most damning thing that can be said in a mafia

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Speaker 1: in Mafia Parliament is what it is. And he's like,

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Speaker 1: wait he said that, Wait, it's what it said. It's

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Speaker 1: what it is. And then it does eventually mean that

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Speaker 1: somebody is completely fucked. But it's yeah, it's the way

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Speaker 1: the mafia, uh and the zeitgeist uh communicates it is

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Speaker 1: we just say things very vaguely. Whatever, it's what it's,

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Speaker 1: it's what it's. Uh, let's talk about this art fiasco

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Speaker 1: in Miami. In Miami, dude, art Basil, So Miami is

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Speaker 1: like a big part of the art scene. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: the art. There's art bass, there's the wheel in Basil

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Speaker 1: in Switzerland. But then this is for a bunch of

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Speaker 1: like people trying to escape the snow to go somewhere

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Speaker 1: to buy more art in December. Is what art Basil is.

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Speaker 1: If I'm it's what, it's what it's, it's it's what

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Speaker 1: it is. So there was a piece called the Artist

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Speaker 1: that had everybody a flutter because it was essentially a piece.

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Speaker 1: It was a banana duct taped to a wall and

844
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Speaker 1: it's sold for one thousand now um or know. So

845
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: it's called the Comedian. I believe that's what the name of.

846
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Why don't you leave the jokes to us?

847
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: This joke sucks? Yeah? Wait, so did they just go

848
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: up to the wall of the art museum? Did they

849
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: produce a chunk of wall and tape them? It's just

850
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: on the wall right there, So if you jist the

851
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: wall out, yeah, okay, yeah, nope. Super Producer around hoosnie

852
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: A has more information on the subject. So super Producer

853
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: roundajosnie A is pointing out that in the art world,

854
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: like in the modern art world, where sometimes uh, just

855
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: like pissing on something or painting the word ar mutt

856
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: on a on a urinal, which was like a hugely

857
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: influential piece of art in the early twentieth century, was

858
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: that like just the concept is what you're buying. You're

859
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: buying a certificate that gives you the right to recreate

860
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: that art wherever the funk you want to with the

861
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: artist essentially. Um, but so you don't. It's not because

862
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: that banana is going to go bad? Was my next question. Oh,

863
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna go all the way. But well that's why

864
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: this other guy came up to it and ate the

865
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: banana off the wall. He just took the banana off

866
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: and was like, well, I'm doing a performance art piece

867
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: called the Hungry Artist, and so I consumed this piece

868
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: and and people are like, oh, okay, that guy was

869
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: just kicked out. He was just kicked out, and they

870
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: taped up another banana. Well they what they did was

871
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: they put a piece of duct tape that said we'll

872
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: be right back, because they didn't want to inspire anyone

873
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: else to just keep doing it. They're like, okay, you've

874
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: had your fun. We're not going to tape another piece back. However,

875
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: to make a fully twenty nineteen, this other guy named

876
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: Rod Weber, this artist goes up with lipstick and wrote

877
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: with his finger. Epstein didn't kill himself on the wall

878
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: where that piece was. What did he name that? The Philosopher? No,

879
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: he just did it. I mean that, yeah, I don't

880
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: know if he had, but he himself is also another

881
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: conceptual artist or performance artist. The thing was the fucking

882
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: people have to think. They covered it up like it

883
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: was a murder scene, like with a sheet, and he

884
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: was arrested. Oh the epsceute thing. Yeah, the guy was

885
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: like the police took him away, I mean versus the

886
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: guy who ate it, Hey, get the funk out of here,

887
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: the guy who wrote up Epstein didn't kill himself. Police, please, sir,

888
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: come get this man. Yeah. I wonder if that has

889
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: anything to do with the incredible number of people who

890
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: hang out at art museums who probably had a frequent

891
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: flyer miles on the little ladic. I mean, art is

892
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: a great way to shield yourself from taxes, you know,

893
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: by art. But that the it's weird. In the Miami

894
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: Herald one of the Miami papers, like first one people Uh,

895
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: I think it was Boston magazine or someone. They were

896
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 1: just sort of like artist writes Epstein didn't kill himself.

897
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: In one of the Miami papers, it was like someone

898
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: vandalizes wall with message about Epstein. Huh. And it wasn't

899
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: like you read in it. They actually have the quote

900
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: of vote was real. But it was weird to just

901
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: sort of the different something regarding Epstein. Also, you know,

902
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: points to you for doing them in the year. Also

903
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: he didn't kill himself, but uh, some points are knocked

904
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: off because he misspelled Epstein's name, he wins uh. Actually

905
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: the banana thing. A couple of things here. Um, if

906
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: you want to make a piece of art and call

907
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: it the comedian, you should just paint my face, thank

908
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: you so much. And then secondly, um, the one dollar

909
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: banana art. I'm reminded of that episode of Arrested Development

910
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: when Lucile blues. It's like they're talking about like the

911
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: banana stand and like and she's like, well, it's one banana.

912
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: What could it cost ten dollars? Just she just has

913
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: no idea banana would cost. Yeah, that's it. That's a

914
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: great I forget who did this, but somebody who interviewed

915
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: celebrities used to ask them to guess how much a

916
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: gallon of milk cost. And there was Bill Gates was

917
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: on I think Ellen, yeah or somewhere, one of my

918
00:57:53,280 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: favorite comedians. That's amazing that she did because she's like,

919
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: we don't know this is he guess that? Like he

920
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: was really spot on with like pizza rolls or something

921
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: like he knew but he did not know milk right, well,

922
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: milk is He's like, do people still drink that? Yeah?

923
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: Absurd to me, sir, I thought I canceled milk. They're

924
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: still making that, all right. Well, he thought pizza rolls

925
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: caused two dollars for Riceroni five bucks a box. Yeah, no,

926
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: that's probably true at justed for inflation today he knew

927
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: dental fuss. He guessed it was four dollars. It was

928
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: three dollars and seventy eight. All right, really, dent what

929
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: kind of this one? Like the most expensive, like high

930
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: end billionaire dentals. It's weird. I have not It's called

931
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: Signature Care, so it seems like an off brand. It's

932
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: not like I don't know, it's not a name brand.

933
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's yeah. I think that's like a brand.

934
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah right, huh crogery Maybe yeah, it is I who

935
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: doesn't know the cost of dental flush, perhaps perhaps who

936
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: steals dental flush from you know what it is? What

937
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: it is, it's what it's what it's what it's um.

938
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: I think it's because I've never used the dental flush.

939
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: My dentist gives me to the point of running out

940
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: of it. H R. I p to Carol Spiney. Carol Stinney,

941
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: who was the puppeteer inside of Big Bird. Yeah, yeah,

942
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: passed away Sunday at the age of eighty five was

943
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: the one and only right, I feel like, I mean,

944
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if if he had retired up until

945
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: that point, but I imagine possibly there There's just this

946
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: one quote. I just read what he said. I used

947
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: to sit from him, he said, I used to say

948
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: I'd move on to something greater. I wouldn't leave this

949
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: for anything, but I'd like to keep doing it until

950
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: I can't hold that bird's head up. Big bird one

951
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: of the candidates or one of the characters, one of

952
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: the candidates for the Democratic nomination, who I support, one

953
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: of the Sesame Street characters who still holds up like

954
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: Grover has been fully replaced by Elmo, and like Grover,

955
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: what do you mean, like in Children's Hearts, Yeah, and

956
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: Children's Hearts like Grover was like when you look back

957
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: at like books from like the eighties, Yeah, a lot

958
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: of Grover Grover Grover centric universe. And I don't think

959
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: Burton Ernie too. I don't think my three year old

960
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: could pick Grover out of the line. Well, tickle me,

961
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: Elmo fucking vaporized all the other characters. Yeah, they all

962
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: all those other Sesame Street. Those muppets got drinking problems, right,

963
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: they're like, yo, ain't the Big Bird is still front

964
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: and center as Oscar the Grouch still around? Yeah, really

965
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 1: identify strongly love Oscar. Oscar is still there. I mean,

966
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: Oscar is such a like iconic, like such a clear

967
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: representation of he's the only one who's allowed to be mean.

968
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: Like it's like, yeah, like of course that's going to

969
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: be not mean, but like having negative feelings that he

970
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: expresses on a consistent basis and maybe but not really

971
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: uh so, like it makes sense that Oscar what would

972
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: still be kind of iconic but bigcause like Big Bird,

973
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: I guess Big Bird is sort of the protestist. Yeah,

974
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: I mean he was always I mean from when I

975
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: was watching in like the eighties, and like a lot

976
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: of those episodes from the late sies and eighties I

977
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: was watching as a kid was typically around him, learning everything,

978
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: and then other people began to get their shine. You know,

979
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: I just want to say I was always I was

980
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: not big. It was pretty chill. Yeah, burn burner and

981
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: got a lot of shine too, you know. Put down

982
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: the Ducky was a big moment. But you know, some

983
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: of us still remember when Big Bird went to Japan. Oh,

984
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was kind of culturally inaccurate. He

985
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: was there. Wait wait, what was culturally inaccurate? I felt

986
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: like there was one part I was just sort of

987
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: like as a kid even I was like, this is

988
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: an interesting take on Japan, but it's for kids, you know,

989
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: the tank it complex. Yeah, I have to watch against

990
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: people like, oh have you seen it now? I'm like, oh,

991
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: shout out to them for not overthinking his name. Also

992
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: because everybody else has it was it was developed by

993
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: like all child learning development experts. Wasn't it like that?

994
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: Why other character has has a name and they're just like, no,

995
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: that's that's big Bird. That's just a big gass bird

996
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, stuff Elophagus, that's a san same street character,

997
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: right something, big birds homie. Yeah there, what happened to stuff?

998
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: He's still out here but partying with on the street.

999
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: He's still on the block. Yeah, he's still on the

1000
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: You've seen stuff Alophagus recently, like in latter day production,

1001
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: but not he's not like he used hugely significant character,

1002
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: although he's being phased out right because he had a

1003
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: drug habit. Bird guys. I mean, we're almost out of time,

1004
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: but we have to talk about the Globe noms is

1005
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: basically like early Christmas here in tinsel Town. I mean

1006
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: it's the town is a buzz uh. Snubs include Watchmen.

1007
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: M uh. I actually don't care about this at all,

1008
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: but it does seem like the this is a big deal, right,

1009
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. You go to you go to the

1010
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: Golden globes. Miles, You're you're a man on the street,

1011
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: a man town. I'm a man who usemanpotism to his advantage. Yeah, yeah, no,

1012
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: I've I'm so bad at watching contenders, Like by the

1013
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: time nominations come out, I'm always like, the nominations come

1014
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: out and then I start watching things. I'm like, tell

1015
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 1: me what to watch. There's a few things. Yeah, so

1016
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I mean shout out to anyone who has nominated.

1017
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: Wish Pen fifteen got nominated. Yeah, what are you gonna do? Well?

1018
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: They were too busy nominating Catch twenty two. Hey, but

1019
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: Graham of Thrones there, I respect the ship out of them.

1020
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: Not not like Game of Thrones. The last six seasons

1021
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: have been nominated in like Best TV Show, Best like

1022
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: tons of acting nominations. They gave it ah nominating even

1023
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: the octogenarians at the Hollywood Form press were like, that

1024
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: was not it. That's how you're gonna do Colici. No, yeah,

1025
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: not for us. Otherwise, no surprises here. Uh No women

1026
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: directors nominated despite movies like Hustlers that would have been

1027
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: great candidates. Uh, Once upon a Time in Hollywood is

1028
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: a comedy musical? I think both probably we could all

1029
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: agree on that. Definitely hilarious and get your toe tappen?

1030
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: What is your favorite musical number? That one with the flamethrower,

1031
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: The flamethrower, Eat my flamethrower. It's like hippie scum. It's

1032
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: the one that it's like every year when you have

1033
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: these categories, the studios just like, okay, can we how

1034
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: do we work this? Martians comedy? Martians comedy? Martins a comedy?

1035
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: Martins a comedy, right because people there are parts that

1036
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: you laugh at, so it's comedy in a way. Yeah. Um,

1037
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: they should be lawyers for the GOP. Yeah. There were.

1038
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: There were some other ones, like Jennifer Lopez was nominated

1039
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: for Hustlers, but as supporting actor, so like there there's

1040
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: all sorts of supporting versus Tom Hanks was that supporting actor?

1041
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: Was that an ensemble cast? Would you say it would

1042
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: make sense for her to be supporting or been. Well,

1043
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: it's there's a pretty clear protagonist. Um but and it's

1044
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: not j Lo. But she's such a major role in right, right. Yeah.

1045
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: I wonder how they or they're like, ok, I think

1046
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: it's the right. I wonder if they look at who

1047
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: they're putting up for best actress, like, Okay, let's maybe

1048
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: we'll migrate to the supporting actress field to get some

1049
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: more love. What about that Playmobile movie I just heard

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Speaker 1: again because I heard this morning you come in. I

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Speaker 1: I P that's being optioned for fucking reboots and why

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Speaker 1: uh and the Playmobile movie. I was like, that doesn't

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Speaker 1: make sense because A, I don't know how many Americans

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Speaker 1: are really that familiar with Playmobile, Like I get it

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Speaker 1: in the eighties and seventies a lot of people fun

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Speaker 1: with Playmobile. But I knew that as like the weird

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Speaker 1: thing that, like the cars didn't look quite right because

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Speaker 1: it was all from Germany, I think, so it didn't

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Speaker 1: quite match what I thought Germans suck a building cars.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exactly. Um yeah, terrible terrible automotive capabilities there.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, and then so when I saw that it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a movie, like, there's no way this

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Speaker 1: is gonna do well. So it made and so it

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Speaker 1: was releasing Your First where it made twelve million dollars

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Speaker 1: on a budget of I think seventy five million dollars.

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Speaker 1: And they then went big with their release in the

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Speaker 1: United States after putting it off for a little while,

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Speaker 1: like this it's going to be bad. Uh. They experimented

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Speaker 1: with dropping the price of tickets, which is something you

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Speaker 1: can apparently do didn't cost full price what they did

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Speaker 1: with Peloton right, so exactly, it was released in over

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Speaker 1: two thousand locations, which is usually the benchmark for a

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Speaker 1: wide release. Uh, and it made under one million. It

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Speaker 1: made six hundred sixty thousand dollars over the weekend, making

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Speaker 1: it the third worst debut ever for a film that

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Speaker 1: was playing in over two thousand locals. It's like each

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Speaker 1: theater made about three hundred bucks. Yeah tops, Oh no,

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Speaker 1: I mean when you want I'm looking at the trade alert,

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Speaker 1: it just looks like a Jankee Lego movie, like you're

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Speaker 1: just swapping it out for the round faced playmobile characters,

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Speaker 1: Jankie version of a movie that when they made a

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Speaker 1: sequel to it. That was the official sequel to that movie.

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Speaker 1: People like it was a big disappointment box office one,

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Speaker 1: so they And it's funny too because Playmobile is a

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Speaker 1: German brand, so you think, okay, well then maybe they're

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Speaker 1: gonna make their coins in Europe? And really, did twelve

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Speaker 1: million that budget? Is that the mark though total? Like

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Speaker 1: what they need to be for profitability? Or it costs

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Speaker 1: seventy million dollars to animate this? I think that's I

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Speaker 1: think it's probably production budget. But you're not going to

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Speaker 1: hear anything like that. Is that has to be the

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Speaker 1: bare bones, like lowest you could say this movie cost

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Speaker 1: without like making people laugh. Uh, And it's still not

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Speaker 1: even going to come close to that. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be one of the all time biggest flops in the

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Speaker 1: history of the New anything. When I saw the trailer

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Speaker 1: for it, I don't know, I guess like a month

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Speaker 1: or so ago, I was like, I tweeted, I was like,

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Speaker 1: legitimate question, is play Malbile a popular enough toy to

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Speaker 1: justify making a movie about it? And the responses where

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Speaker 1: it is in Europe? But like right, no one in

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Speaker 1: the US really anymore, at least I don't think plays

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Speaker 1: with these toys are like, hardly anyone. I was like,

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Speaker 1: what do you do well? And European cinema is knowns

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Speaker 1: traditionally for its toy based movies. Yeah, I mean the

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Speaker 1: French cinema. I think mostly made with tinker tots. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of Lincoln log Lincoln movies in Germany classics. Well, Caitlin, Uh,

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Speaker 1: this has been fun as always having you. Where can

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Speaker 1: people find you? Follow you? Uh? Enjoy you? Oh gee wiz,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me number one? Number two. You can

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Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Caitlin Durante. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, you can go to my website Caitlin Dronte

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Speaker 1: dot com. If you click on the show's tab, you

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Speaker 1: can see all my upcoming shows as well as the

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Speaker 1: classes I said that I teach. Again, I have some

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Speaker 1: intro level classes starting in January. If anyone's interested in

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Speaker 1: learning screenwriting from a master, Yes, I am the master

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Speaker 1: and the commander of the class. And uh yeah. Check

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Speaker 1: out the Bechtel cast. We talked about the representation of

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Speaker 1: women in film from a feminist lens. Nice. Is there

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Speaker 1: a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh? Indeed, yes, this comes

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Speaker 1: from Maggie may Fish and it says, um, my favorite

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Speaker 1: films of the decade are all of them, even the

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Speaker 1: ones named bad have had some of the most creative

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Speaker 1: shots slash lighting. There's a diamond in every art and

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Speaker 1: it's it's an expression of humanity anyway you look at it,

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Speaker 1: dot dot dot. But it's also absolutely Paddington Yeah, unequivocal

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Speaker 1: would see that is the best film of the decade.

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Speaker 1: Paddington two is I will say, right here, right now,

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Speaker 1: the best film of not only the decade, of the

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Speaker 1: history of womankind. Yeah, yeah, with a fantastic miles Where

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Speaker 1: can by the way, I think you must pronounce bomb

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Speaker 1: with a bomb? Sorry? Where people find you? And what

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Speaker 1: is the tweet you've been enjoying? Oh? Okay, yes, you

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Speaker 1: can find me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram

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Speaker 1: at Miles of Gray. Uh god, I just a tweet.

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Speaker 1: I like, let me tell you a tweet. I don't like,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you a little tweet. I'm really here.

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Speaker 1: You're just scrolling through my Twitter, aren't you? From hater?

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Speaker 1: Who's a real hater if you ask me? That said

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Speaker 1: Pete Buddha judge the type of guy who goes on

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Speaker 1: vacation to Italy and when it comes back is always

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Speaker 1: going cho gotta stop saying that I was just in

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Speaker 1: Italy and also he committed some kind of international bank

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Speaker 1: fraud while he was there. Now I will say this,

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Speaker 1: I have not committed international bank fraud, but I have

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Speaker 1: been to Italy. And Pete Buddha Judge was dining next

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Speaker 1: to me Mario in the Piazzale michel Angelo, just on

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Speaker 1: the hills of Tuscany looking at anyway. Actually that's not

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Speaker 1: where that restaurant is. And I'm shamed myself because that's

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Speaker 1: actually near the central market of Tuscany. Anyone would know that,

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Speaker 1: not Tuscany, it's Florence or uh. And Jack O'Brien, I

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Speaker 1: have to really thank you for oh for tweeting it

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Speaker 1: out and just putting and everybody actually was everybody group effort.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for you saying at miles A

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Speaker 1: great I'll just leave this here so much um. And

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Speaker 1: then another two day like is this from a listener

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Speaker 1: who we were talking about Ross Putin Rasputin? Uh? And

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Speaker 1: I was like, what about ross Putin, the Jamaican version

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Speaker 1: of Vladimir Putin? Uh? And I'm sure this draft must existed,

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Speaker 1: or the Robin problem at graphic expletive put this together

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Speaker 1: because this image of Ross putin with the dreadlocks and

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Speaker 1: like the everything the nit hat he could have been

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Speaker 1: wearing a mesh marina to fully make it Ross style.

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Speaker 1: But thank you so much for putting that in my

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Speaker 1: in my mentions because I did laugh at that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Rob does put the robbing problem. So yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: It's always been true. I've said that from day one. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Some tweets I've been enjoying. One is from a comedian

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Speaker 1: named Caitlin Durante, who tweeted, turns out Watchman on HBO

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Speaker 1: is not about a man who get fitten by a

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Speaker 1: radioactive watch. Hollywood has let me down again. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: I will always shout shout it out every time. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's that good. Uh. And I liked the responses to

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Speaker 1: Bette Midler's tweet. So Bette Midler tweeted a photograph of

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Speaker 1: three young women looking at their phones in an art

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Speaker 1: gallery and tweeted, what's wrong with this picture because they're

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Speaker 1: looking at their phone instead of the paintings, And Paul

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Speaker 1: if Thompkins tweeted, you should also shame the people in

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Speaker 1: the gift shop and the cafe of the museum, and

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Speaker 1: anyone leaving the museum look at the art at all times.

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Speaker 1: Once you enter the museum, you die there and the

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Speaker 1: last image on your lifeless eyes is an art. Uh

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Speaker 1: oh and also uh. CBS News tweeted a banana duct

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Speaker 1: tape to a wall was sold for a d twenty

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars at Art Basil Miami, and Matt Oswald tweeted, idiot,

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Speaker 1: you can buy a banana for half that price at

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Speaker 1: Whole Foods. Damn. Yeah, that's some good, good dead content

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Speaker 1: with approved finances. You can find me on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: daily Zeke. Guys were at the Daily zeit geys on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page and a website Daily

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Speaker 1: zi guys dot com where we post our episodes and

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Speaker 1: our foot where we link off to the information that

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Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, as well as the

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Speaker 1: song we right out on miles What's that going to be? Today,

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Speaker 1: we'll do a track by DJ Crush from Japan, who's

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Speaker 1: kind of like Japan's DJ Shadow if you like, you know,

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Speaker 1: just dudes who put little samples together. This track is

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Speaker 1: called Drum and it's a song that when I used

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Speaker 1: to go to the gym, I would use to work

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Speaker 1: out a lot, and I was singing the peloton ad.

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Speaker 1: And if I was on a peloton, uh and was

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Speaker 1: a little bit more serious about my health, I would

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Speaker 1: probably listening to this. Let's just remind me of all that. Instead,

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Speaker 1: I take the stairs at work and I'll call that

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Speaker 1: I'll work out right now. I'm not asking this for

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Speaker 1: any reason, but would you be offended if her majesty

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Speaker 1: got you a peloton? Yes, you would because she knows

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Speaker 1: because she says a lot of stuff underhanded leaves to

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Speaker 1: me and she's like, oh wow, that peloton I heard

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Speaker 1: it worked for some other dude. I was like, oh no,

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Speaker 1: it's it's cool, and she's like, your legs are looking

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Speaker 1: at She wasn't gonna get away less tunny than they

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Speaker 1: could be, less pelotoni than they could be. Uh cool. Well,

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Speaker 1: if she got me when actually I would be upset

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Speaker 1: because I feel like two dollars could be spent so

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Speaker 1: much better. They are of money, but they break it

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Speaker 1: down and be like, but you can basically be under

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Speaker 1: our thumb. Monthly for sixty. They give you a great

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Speaker 1: deal on it. I'm sick. Yeah, because it's a subscription service. Also,

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Speaker 1: you get to pay that and then subscribe to the

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Speaker 1: thing the iPad that screams at you on the off

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Speaker 1: chance that they'll call you Grace from look just from Boston.

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Speaker 1: Just get that thing where you take your regular bike

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Speaker 1: you have that lifts your back wheel off the ground

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Speaker 1: so you can peddle it, and then put an iPad

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Speaker 1: right in front of you. Boom, put pelotoni. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like legitimately that would work just as well. Yeah, or

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Speaker 1: it's just any stationary bike, right, but with I pad

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Speaker 1: right and look, anyone who's does spin class or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I look, I don't. I don't know about it. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna assume that's what it is. Well, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: write out on Miles is Jock jams Uh. Daily Likes

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Speaker 1: is production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts for

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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is

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Speaker 1: going to do it for today, actually not today, for

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Speaker 1: this morning. I will be back later on this afternoon

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Speaker 1: with trendings I guess and back tomorrow with another whole

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