1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: today's best minds, and Donald Trump says, we have no 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: evacuation plan for embassies because it happened very quickly. We 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: have such a great show for you today the Don 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: Lemon Shows. Don Lemon stops by to talk about Trump's 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: admission that he has no plan for what to do 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: in ran. Then we'll talk to Wisconsin Senator Tami Baldwin 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: about the Save Act and how Democrats can make sure 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: that it doesn't pass. 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: But first the news, Mike, Donald Trump has made quite 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: the mess of the Middle East. Every time I come 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: upstairs to my wife's office and she's watching Al Jazeera, 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: I go, why the fuck are we bombing Bay Route? 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 3: Now? 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: Why the fuck are their bombs on the Bersh Khalifa? 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: Why the fuck is this happening? 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: Yes, so, Donald Trump. Now we are in the process 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: where he's trying to spin this Department of Military Conflict 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: or as we call it war. We have all different theories. 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: He is calling everyone in the entire world. He has 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: called at least nineteen reporters since Saturday. He has given 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: them a number of different explanations as to why he 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: has bombed or on they differ from everything in the world. 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio said that Israel quote knew there was going 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: to be an Israeli action, and so we did it 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: because of that. If you said that, certain people like 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: Jonathan Greenblat would say you're being anti Semitic. But that 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: is what Marco Rubio is saying. Trump is both taking 30 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: credit for it and also trying to back away from it, 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: which is a pretty interesting stance for him. They were 32 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: hoping to make this like what happened where what happened 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: in Venezuela where Trump arrested the president and his wife. 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: But this seems as if it has kind of spiraled 35 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: out of control. They killed the Ayatola, they killed the 36 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: second Ayatola. I think they're trying to figure out who 37 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: they haven't killed in order to you know, this administration 38 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: has said they want regime change. They don't want regime change. 39 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: They want the oil. They don't want the oil. They 40 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: seem like they're kind of caught flat footed. The Dow 41 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: is not happy. The oil prices are going way up, 42 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: and three thousand ships about four percent of globe global 43 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: shipping remain stuck in the Persian Gulf. The airports in 44 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: some of these golf states are closed, and a prolonged 45 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: war could be even more damaging to global energy markets. 46 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: Here's the deal. Trump has cut green energy projects because 47 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: it's wool. So there are a lot of green energy 48 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: projects that were started that were stuck the Trump administration 49 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: because they were woke, and he hates woke. Now that's 50 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: a problem when you start a war in the Middle East, 51 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: because that is going to make oil more expensive. All 52 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: of this is buttressed by another problem, which is Trump's 53 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: war on trade. So we have things more expensive because 54 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: Trump has tariffed them. The global supply chain disrupted by 55 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: Trump's tariffs, then further disrupted by Trump's wars, then further 56 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: disrupted by Trump's war on green energy, leading us to 57 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: what will likely be a very hot summer filled with 58 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: the need for gas and electricity to pay for, you know, 59 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: to support air conditioning, and also large data centers which 60 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: are used to make AI slop and also need a 61 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: lot of water and electricity. So we're going to go 62 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: into a summer that's going to be very expensive. And 63 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: Donald Trump campaigned on making things more affordable, so this 64 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: should be a bit of an interesting summer. 65 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: He really is not going to do well with high 66 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: oil prices right now. And my wife turned me last 67 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: night and she's like, did you fill up the guests yet? 68 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: And she's like, you might want to get on that. 69 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: I think important to mention that Trump advance. This is 70 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: from k filet CNN. He went through and dug up 71 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: all of the many, many, many times that jd Vance 72 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: has said that Donald Trump will prevent war. It's interesting 73 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: to note that one of the many things that Trump 74 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: World has been spinning is this idea that the war 75 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: was actually Jadie Vance's idea, or that jd Vance had 76 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: signed off on it. But here are some of the 77 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: things that Jadie Van said in twenty twenty four when 78 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: he was campaigning with Trump. Me and tweets and world 79 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: Peace has a pretty nice ring to Advance said. I 80 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: say that if you start it's a war in Iran 81 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: before the election, which will make it very hard for 82 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: Republican to win. Trump said of then President Barack Obama 83 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve on Sean Hannity's radio program, he'll start 84 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: a war, you know, lives will be wasted for no reason. 85 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: I think we're up to six American troops of our God. 86 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: The twenty twelve comment from Trump, who was then making 87 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: early fours into conservative politics with appearances at seapacket on 88 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: Fox News, prompted Hannity to call the notion of bombing 89 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: Iran the most chilling abuse of power. Is what you're 90 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 1: describing in American history. I wonder what Sean Hannity thinks 91 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: of it. Now, you'll remember that last night, John Hannity 92 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: had the President of Israel on to make the case 93 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: that what Donald Trump had done was good, pretty chilling stuff. 94 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 95 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: So one of the things that we were saying before 96 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: mister Trump was elected as one of the biggest problems 97 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: they will have is that we've read in Project twenty 98 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: twenty nine that they were going to purge all of 99 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: the disoil people who came from mister Trump, all the 100 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: people who don't say he's the greatest. 101 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: And the best. 102 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: It turns out, right before this whole stupid iron debacle, 103 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: Cash Battel fired the entire team of Iran experts right 104 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: before the war. 105 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they didn't say thank you, mister Trump for 106 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: the dow at fifty thousand. As Pam Bondi said, you must. 107 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: Did you even say please once? 108 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: Did you even say please? That's a quote from Janie 109 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: Vans being mad that he felt that President Zelenski of 110 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: Ukraine did not thank Trump for his help. So, yeah, 111 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: here we are, and I'm not entirely sure. You know, 112 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: cash Battel has just decimated the FBI, and then we 113 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: have the guy who's the head of counter terrorism is 114 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: like a twenty two. 115 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: Year old Thomas Fugate. 116 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: Yes, Thomas Fugate, a twenty two year old intern from 117 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation. 118 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: He ran a golf course too. 119 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: If there ever were a moment to have real people 120 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: and real jobs, it's like making me long for the 121 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: time of Donald Rumsfeld. And that is a sad, sad, 122 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: sad statement. 123 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: We have two opposing visions of what to do with 124 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: our tax coach. In one corner, we have my man, 125 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders, who you're saying, we have to text the billionaires, 126 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: especially now that we're at war and war is expensive. 127 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: We have Ted Cruz who's saying we can avert congressional 128 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: approval to cut taxes. 129 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Ted CRUs wants to cut taxes more. I 130 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: don't think that's going to happen. Ted but he's like 131 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: just such an unbelievable suck up, that fucking guy. Ted 132 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: Cruz and Tim Scott. Tim Scott who got his money 133 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: from Medicare fraud and Ted Cruz, who got his personality 134 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: from Dracula. That's a great crew, those two. I want 135 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: to talk about the Bernie sand Anders tax Plan, which 136 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: is a Bernie Sanders Rocanna joint. It's a megatax on 137 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: America's one thousand billionaires. Would raise four point four trillion 138 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: dollars and Rocana is introducing the House version. Money would 139 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: be directed to a three thousand dollars stimulus check per 140 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: person earning under one hundred and fifty k a year. 141 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: It would expand Medicare to cover dental, vision and hearing 142 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: for all seniors. By the way, you know, Bernie has 143 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: always been absolutely obsessed with dental for Medicare for dental 144 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: and glasses and hearing aids. That's been something he's been 145 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: obsessed with for a long time. And it's very smart 146 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: and sure, every public school teacher gets paid at least 147 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: sixty k per year, which is great. And eight hundred 148 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: and fifty billion dollars for affordable home constructions, abolish homelessness, 149 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: also universal child's care and reversing Trump's Medicaid cut. Okay, 150 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: that's one, and the other side for Ted Cruz is 151 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: his Treasury Secretary Scott Besson a letter calling for a 152 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: two hundred billion dollar tech cut without congressional approval, would 153 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: slash capital gains taxes that when you make money on investments, 154 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: so it would help the very rich. And by the way, 155 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: capital gains is already not taxed at the same rate 156 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: that income is. It's taxed at a much lower rate 157 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: because capital gains is the kind of income that can 158 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: really only be made on venture investing or on the 159 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: stock market. So it's a really good example of a 160 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: tax that, just like inheritance tax, is largely paid by 161 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: very wealthy people. So it's just a real moment to 162 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: look at how incredibly focused on the very wealthy the 163 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: Republican Party is and how incredibly focused on everyone else. 164 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: Rocanna and Bernie are here. We have exciting news over 165 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: at our YouTube channel. 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Welcome, Welcome, Don Lemon. 181 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: Hi, I'm Molly Dunkass, I'm a Fast Politics I'm. 182 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: So happy to have you and I love to be 183 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: on Lemon Live. Two of you know my favorite. So 184 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: let's talk about this letter. Donald Trump has a war 185 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: powers it's a war powers I think it's it's a 186 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: sort of War Powers Act, some kind of and basically 187 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: it's the same as everything this administration has said over 188 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:43,359 Speaker 1: the last two days, which is Israel made us. Saudis 189 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: wanted it. We had to do it to distract from 190 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: the Epstein files. 191 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: Discuss Well, basically he's saying now he is he wants 192 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 4: to alert Congress of airstrikes now, but after he is 193 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 4: already right, am I correct? After he already leveled attacks 194 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: against Iran at the girls school. 195 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: I saw a photo of them like digging up mass 196 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: graves for these children. 197 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and as we are recording this, six US servicemen 198 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 4: have already died, and we are in the very early 199 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 4: days that that girls school happened. I believe within the 200 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 4: opening hours of this you know, attack on Iran. Yeah, 201 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: of course it's a distraction from the Epstein files, but 202 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 4: I think it's it goes beyond that. And as you know, 203 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 4: I've been discussing on my show with folks. Yet everyone 204 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 4: believes that, you know, the the Epscene files were heating up. 205 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 4: They were not not. I mean, as if it could 206 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 4: get any hotter, but they were not going out of 207 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: the headlines no matter what they tried to do, including 208 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 4: you know, bringing Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton in for 209 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 4: some bogus testimony. And if you watch that, it was 210 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 4: a it was a farce. But also just a distraction 211 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 4: from other things that that that that's happening in this country, 212 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 4: which I believe were distractions from the Epstein files, and 213 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 4: that went bad. I eat, what happened in Minnesota. Remember 214 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 4: what happened in Minnesota was all started because this guy 215 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: and Nick Shirley went there and said he was uncovering fraud. 216 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 4: They send people to Minnesota and then people ended up dying, 217 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: and so they can't get out of their own ways. 218 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 4: They create these problems because they're trying to deflect, and 219 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: then they come up with solutions and those solutions become 220 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 4: even bigger problems for them. And that's where we are 221 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: right now. 222 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's a really good point. I mean, 223 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: it's this sort of law of unintended consequences, and we 224 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: keep seeing that again and again. And I think this 225 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: is a pretty interesting moment because yesterday we had this 226 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: incredible testimony from Bill and Hilary four and a half 227 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: hours each. It was so interesting to me. One of 228 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: the things that I was really impressed with in her testimony, 229 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: and this is something we've seen again and again with her, 230 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: is that she just is able to be enraged in 231 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: a way that I I you know as women for 232 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: women tends to be that rage is not. You know, 233 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: we get in a lot of trouble when we're angry. 234 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: We're not sort you know, the culture sort of says 235 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: in a million different ways, you're not supposed to be angry, 236 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: and yet she is able to you know, the rage 237 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: she has is just sort of effervescent and amazing, and 238 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: listening to her is very inspiring in my mind. 239 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I relate to that because you're not 240 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: supposed to be the angry black man either, right, because 241 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: people interpret your ire differently than others. But I would 242 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 4: you know, you can call it rage. I call it 243 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 4: righteous indignation. And no one is righteously indignant better than 244 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton, and she has every right is that. That's 245 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 4: what's why I said righteous to be indignant about it. 246 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 4: Because they're questioning her about Pizzagate and she doesn't even 247 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: know Jeffrey Epstein and her relationship with Howard Lutnick, and 248 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 4: it's like, wait a minute, Howard Luttnik is in the 249 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 4: Trump administration, and she tried to explain to them. At 250 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 4: the time, I was a senator in New York, Howard 251 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: Lutnick was a head of cantor Fitzgerald or a leading 252 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: voice at a leading person counterfeitz serial and lost many 253 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 4: employees and friends, including his brother. And so if I 254 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 4: have communications with him, it is about that. It's not 255 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 4: about the Epstein files. And it's just is this outrageous 256 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 4: when you look at the firepower so to speak, meaning 257 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 4: brain power and intelligence of a Hillary Clinton versus Lauren 258 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: Bobert and Nancy Mays, there's no comparison. And look, I 259 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 4: think them releasing this video, well, them doing it is 260 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 4: a cell phone, but this video is even more of 261 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 4: a cell phone because they look really bad. Yeah, she 262 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,239 Speaker 4: comes off very well. 263 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: She does. 264 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: She comes off really well. And I think that's a 265 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: really good point about how first of all, the fact 266 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: that Lutnick is being questioned about but not being interviewed, 267 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: when he's in those files again and again and again, 268 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: and he signed in LLC and CBS reported that they 269 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: did business together, right, that Lutnik and Jeffrey Epstein had 270 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: some kind of business together. And there are photos of 271 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: Lutnik and Epstein that the just This Department took down 272 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: from the website. Like if that isn't suspicious, I don't 273 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: know what is. I want to get back. 274 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: I had a business together, Molly though, real quick. They 275 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: had business together after Jeffrey Epstein lied about he said, 276 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 4: you know about his he said, I cut my relationship 277 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: with him after I visited his house and he was 278 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 4: very creepy. And then years later they strike up a 279 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: business deal together and he ends up going to Epstein Island, 280 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 4: I believe, right on the plane with his family. It's 281 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 4: just crazy. 282 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: And then also you have you'll have Lutnik with the 283 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: emails with the nanny right that the nanny, which is like, 284 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if a Democrat did this, people would be 285 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: losing their minds. I want to get back to the 286 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: CBS War Powers Resolution notification that Donald Trump has done. 287 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: By the way, talk about Democrats getting caught on the 288 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: back foot. Last week we saw Rocanna and Thomas Massey 289 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: tried to do a War Powers Act. Hakeem was like, 290 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: wait till this week. They should have done it last week. 291 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 4: They should have done it last week. And yeah, always 292 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 4: and there are real concerns about the Democratic leadership. As 293 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 4: you point out so accurately, they always seem to be 294 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 4: on their back foot. And we need a little bit 295 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 4: more a proactive mindset and nature with the Democrats. And look, Molly, 296 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 4: I think you notice I'm not a Democrat. I'm not 297 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: a Republican either, I'm an independent. But I feel like 298 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 4: the Democrats are the only party right now. Democratic Party 299 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 4: is the only party right now fighting for democracy, not 300 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 4: always doing such a great job at it, but anybody 301 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: who's fighting for a democracy and who believes in the 302 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 4: Constitution and our Bill of Rights, and then I'm you know, 303 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 4: I'm on that side. So they could be a bit 304 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 4: more proactive and a bit more look, have a bit 305 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: more righteous indignation. 306 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right. And I think Rocanna is 307 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: a really good example of just being on it right. 308 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: He's a Democrat and he just sort of vary. And 309 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: we've seen this with Robert Garcia too, who's the ranking 310 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: member of Oversight, is relentless and in fact, but I 311 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: want to get back to the War Powers Resolution for 312 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: a minute, because I have now have it. The CBS 313 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: News CBS News, by the way, you'll remember CBS News 314 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: lost twenty five percent of its audience because it now 315 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: has it is now part of Barry Weiss's Empire has 316 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: obtained the War Powers Resolution notification. President Trump said to 317 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: Congress today on February twenty eighth. That's like four days 318 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: into the strikes. Okay, it outlines the missile air defense 319 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: targets that were hit, acknowledges. It's not clear how long 320 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: operations may last. 321 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, despite my administration's repeated efforts to achieve 322 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 4: a diplomatic solution in Aron's malign behavior, the threat to 323 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 4: the United States and its allies and partners became untenable. 324 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 4: That's what he said. But then, but this is a 325 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: you know, this is sort of retrofitting what was supposed 326 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 4: to have happened, you know, into it four days later. 327 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 4: So perhaps if the Democrats have been more proactive, as 328 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: you said. But yeah, look, people are still dying. 329 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: I think. 330 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: Look, it's an effort, but it's not a good faith effort. 331 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 4: It's not a good faith effort at this point. A 332 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 4: faith a good faith effort would have been to go 333 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 4: to Congress, who really does should have the war powers, 334 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 4: the powers of the purse. There's a reason that the 335 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 4: Congress is in the First Amendment of the Constitution, and 336 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: in the Constitution, the beginning starts with the Congress. The 337 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: Congress is really sort of the thread that runs through 338 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 4: the entire Constitution to hold it together, but Donald Trump 339 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 4: just ignores them. 340 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's interesting to listen to Marco. Yesterday. Marco 341 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: gave a little presser on the Hill and he said, 342 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: first of all, he said, Israel told us to get 343 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: involved in this, which, by the way, if you said that, 344 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: Jonathan Greenblat would say you are an anti Samite. So 345 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: but Marco said it because it's factually correct. And I 346 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: was sort of blown away by that. But then he 347 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: also said, you know, Trump doesn't need more power. You know, 348 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't need to come to Congress. He can do 349 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: whatever he wants. And I was reminded that Marco Rubio 350 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: was until very recently a senator. 351 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's part he's part of the legislative branch. 352 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 4: And they have completely given their power, just handed their 353 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 4: power over to the executive branch. They've allowed the executive 354 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 4: branch to usurp their power and their jobs. So what 355 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 4: what what need is there for a senator or a 356 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: congressman if Donald Trump can do whatever he wants. And basically, Molly, 357 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 4: that's what he said to them at the State of 358 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: the Union. He looked right at the Supreme Court and said, 359 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 4: I don't need you there are other ways to get 360 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 4: what I want to get as it relates to tariffs, 361 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 4: so you know, fu And then he, you know, with 362 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 4: Mike Johnson standing behind him, he said that he didn't 363 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: need to go to the Congress to do any of 364 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 4: it as well, and Mike Johnson stood up and applauded. 365 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 4: So then, Mike Johnson, then why are you there? It 366 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 4: doesn't make sense. The whole thing about Israel is that 367 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 4: none of what Marco Rubio said yesterday made sense, as 368 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 4: none of what Pete Hexeth said made sense. There's a 369 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 4: regime change, but it wasn't intended. But there is a 370 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 4: regime change. And he's not like he sounded like he 371 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 4: was trying to be like a rapper. I was like, 372 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: who who are you? 373 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: Now? 374 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 4: I know, say fifty cent? What's his name? Anyway? 375 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: The person? But yes, I mean. 376 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 4: If I can make my point, if I can make 377 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 4: my point, sorry Molly, if I make my point. And 378 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 4: they said, as someone I had on yesterday made a 379 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 4: very good point saying because he said they had to 380 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 4: do it because Israel was going to strike them and 381 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 4: they didn't want the fallout from it. Then he's painting 382 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 4: Israel as the preeminent threat in this scenario. And so 383 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: someone pointed out, when does one country get to dictate 384 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 4: another country's foreign policy, And it sounds like Israel is 385 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 4: dictating America's foreign policy and how reacts to in this situation, 386 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 4: it's it's really something else. 387 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: And the Washington Post of reporting that MBA had been 388 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: lobbying for this, So that would mean that you have 389 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: both the Saudis and the Israelis telling Donald Trump what 390 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 1: to do. But I also want to point out another 391 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: thing which I think is important, which is the people 392 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 1: who were tasked with these negotiations were Jared Kushner, who 393 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: has a ton of financial interests in the golf and 394 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: has no training and has never done this before, and 395 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: Steve Woodcoff, who is a friend of Donald Trump's. I mean, like, 396 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: there are reasons that people have the training to do 397 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: things like this. I mean discuss. 398 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean, do you remember in the beginning 399 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: during the first administration when Jared Kushner was put in 400 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 4: charge of Middle East peace right, and look at where 401 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 4: we are now. Uh, there's a reason, quite honestly that 402 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 4: someone like Marco Rubio has experienced in foreign policy. He 403 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 4: was a senator and now he's a Secretary of State, 404 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 4: which gives him even more credibility. He's even in a 405 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 4: bigger part. I believe sort of that this is a 406 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 4: hybrid role. I believe between the executive and the legislative branch, 407 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 4: and Marco Rubio does not understand nor does he respect that, 408 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 4: or appears to understand or respect that at this moment. Yes, 409 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 4: there are reasons that we have generals, even though Donald 410 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 4: Trump says he knows more than the generals. There is 411 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 4: a reason that people go to war become the career 412 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 4: military people so that they can become two, three, four 413 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 4: star generals or more. And they have the experience that 414 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 4: a Donald Trump doesn't have, or even quite frankly, even 415 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 4: a Marco Rubio doesn't have. But yes, there are people 416 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 4: who are steeped in foreign policy, in diplomacy, and none 417 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 4: of this seems to be diplomatic. None of their excuses 418 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: are making any sense. The more they explain, the more 419 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 4: confused the American people. And I believe our allies and 420 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 4: our nessary nemesis around the world, I believe that they 421 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 4: become even more confused. And you know the old saying, Molly, 422 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 4: if you're explaining which they're doing a lot. 423 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: Of yes, you're losing yes, And I actually think about 424 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: that a lot. Now. I think this is all exactly right. 425 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: Now. 426 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: We have just a few minutes left, and I want 427 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: to devote it to the Christie Gnome testimony because I 428 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: want to talk about this incredible testimony. And she's being 429 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: interviewed by Kennedy and it is just you'll remember super 430 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: woke leftist Senator Kennedy from the great State of Louisiana, 431 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: who is neither woke nor a leftist. He basically asks 432 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: her why she has spent so much money. 433 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 4: Well, it says here that he confronts her on the 434 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 4: two hundred million dollars, yeah, twenty million dollars spent on 435 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 4: TV ads. 436 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: Let me read it here we go. Okay, so who 437 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: asked Noam to square her concern for government spending waste 438 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: with the move to spend two hundred and twenty million 439 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: dollars on TV ads that feature Gnome prominently. Nome says 440 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 1: she went through the legal process for the ads and 441 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: that Trump knew she was making them. No, the ads 442 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: were effective, Kennedy. They were effective for your name recognition. 443 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: It puts the president in a terribly awkward spot. One 444 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: of the people you picked Safe America Media was formed 445 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 1: eleven days before you pick them, and the head is 446 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: married to your former spokesperson. How bad must it be? 447 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: How corrupt must they be for John Kennedy, Louisiana's Foghorn 448 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: Leghorn to do this? 449 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 4: I don't say must they be? I think we know. 450 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: I think we know that they be. Can we can 451 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 4: see it? I mean, honestly, it all played out to 452 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 4: us and it's still playing out from the horrible videos 453 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 4: that we're seeing of people being dragged and pulled out 454 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 4: of their homes and the testimony that's happening now with 455 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 4: people being pulled out of the shower and their underwear 456 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 4: and American citizens and they have the wrong people. And 457 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 4: her answer to that is when asked should American citizens 458 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 4: be treated this way or pulled out of their home? 459 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 4: She goes in every law enforcement operation or activity there 460 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 4: are basically saying that there are casualties, not being able 461 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 4: to admit admit that. We saw her standing in front 462 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 4: of a jail cell or prison cell full of people 463 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 4: with shaved heads in uniform or in prison guard Some 464 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 4: of them were American citizens, some of them were not 465 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 4: violent people. They made them out to be. We've seen 466 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 4: her on the boats, on her photo shoots in makeup, 467 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: full hair and makeup, and that's why they call her 468 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 4: Ice Barbie. We've seen all of the things. We've seen 469 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 4: her horrific behavior when she called Alex Preddy a domestic terrorist, 470 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 4: and then in this hearing that you and I are 471 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 4: discussing now, just lied about it to Senator Richard Blumenthal 472 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 4: and saying you know, basically or either was Amy Klobeshar 473 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 4: saying I didn't do that when all you have to 474 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 4: do is run the sound bite back. Now. I have 475 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 4: a bit of experience lately with federal agents, and I 476 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 4: will tell you not all of them are created the same. 477 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 4: The people who are out there snatching people up off 478 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 4: the streets with forty seven days of experience are not 479 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 4: the career professionals who I believe are embarrassed by this 480 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: administration and they don't want to be associated with those 481 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 4: ice goons that should not be in any position of power. 482 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. 483 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 4: We know it's bad. 484 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 3: We see it. 485 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 4: The evidence is there in primor eyes. 486 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to talk a little more about where 487 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: you are in your situation with us, Well, everyone. 488 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 4: Look, I'll talk to you about what's out there. I mean, look, 489 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 4: it's still ongoing. This administration is you know, I don't 490 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 4: think that they're going to stop. They're going to try 491 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 4: everything that they can, as they say, every trick in 492 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 4: the book, because that's all they have is tricks, right. 493 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 4: You know, there have been you know, motions filed and whatever. 494 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 4: So we're just in the middle of the legal process 495 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 4: right now, and so it's just playing out. And that's 496 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 4: all I really know. I have good representation. I rely 497 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 4: on my representation and my attorneys to do whatever they 498 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 4: need to do legally, and then I go about my 499 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 4: life and I live my life, and I go on 500 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 4: you know, fast politics, and I do my show, and 501 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 4: I just continue to be hopefully a good storage of 502 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 4: the First Amendment and freedom of the press. This is 503 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 4: much bigger than me, Molly, as you know, this is 504 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 4: ramifications for all of us and anyone who operates under 505 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 4: the First Amendment. And if an administration can decide what 506 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 4: stories that we should be able to cover as journalists, 507 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: then we've lost the plot. And they are trying to 508 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 4: do that. You see what they've done with the White 509 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 4: House Media, with the White House cores. You see what 510 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 4: they've done at the Pentagon, where they are getting people 511 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 4: to sign statements or sign agreement that they have to 512 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 4: show them something, you know, some things that they want 513 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 4: to produce or that they want to publish. It's outrageous 514 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 4: and it is Unamerican. It is against the Constitution, it's 515 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: against the Bill of Rights, it's unpatriotic. And so that's 516 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 4: where I am right now. I'm standing for the First Amendment, 517 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 4: for freedom of the press and for all journalists all 518 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 4: not only in America, but for but all over the world. 519 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you, Don Lemon. 520 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 4: Thank you, Molly John Fast Tammy Baldwin is the junior 521 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 4: Senator from Wisconsin. 522 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome Senator Baldwin. It's great to join you. So 523 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: the Save Act is the stuff of nightmares. It has 524 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: now made it through the House again. It sits in 525 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: the Senate. Tell us just give us the four one one. 526 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: Besides federalizing elections, what does a save AC do? 527 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know President Trump said he wants to 528 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 5: nationalize elections. He was on a podcast. He said in many, 529 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 5: many states, not every state, many many, and then he said, 530 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 5: like fifteen states and you could just imagine who he's 531 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 5: thinking about, right, your state, yeah, and and several other 532 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 5: blue states, et cetera. The Save Act is kind of 533 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 5: like the toolkit or the vehicle to use if he 534 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 5: wants to do that, And the number of folks that 535 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 5: would potentially be disenfranchised by it are significant. 536 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: So you know, it. 537 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 5: Requires a passport or a birth certificate. There are significant 538 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 5: swaths of America that have neither a passport or a 539 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 5: birth certificate and don't have the funds to you know, 540 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 5: it's it's well over one hundred dollars to get a 541 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 5: passport and just finding you know, how to go about 542 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 5: ordering a certified birth certificate from the state, that county 543 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 5: or whatever that you were born. And then if you 544 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 5: have changed your last name for any reason, Mari, divorce, whatever, 545 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 5: and it doesn't match this document that you're showing, you 546 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 5: have to like do over. And anyways, let me just 547 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 5: say that in Wisconsin, our elections are safe. Our elections 548 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 5: are extremely accurate. They are conducted by local elected clerks, 549 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 5: hundreds upon hundreds of them throughout the state. When we've 550 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 5: had recounts, when we've had they've come back with such 551 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 5: great accuracy. There is no reason for the Save Act. 552 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 5: Other than to stop Americans from accessing the ballot box, 553 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 5: we cannot let this bill advance. 554 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: If you're looking at the math on the Save Act, 555 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: you would need to either end the filibuster, or and 556 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: the filibuster, or somehow find a bunch of Democrats to 557 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: make a terrible decision, which right, John Federman might but 558 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: I don't think you have others who would. So this 559 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: is really up to John Soon and leadership. If they're 560 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: going to do something insane, what's your sense on this? 561 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 5: So you know during the State of the Union address 562 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 5: that Trump actually called Thoone out, I mean just by 563 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 5: first name, but sort of John, You're going to get 564 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 5: this done sort of thing. And so he's upping the pressure. 565 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 5: But look, the last time that Trump put a lot 566 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 5: of pressure on Republican leader Thuon to break the filibuster, 567 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 5: he didn't. And the only sort of discussion that we've 568 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 5: heard other than him pressuring Thuone in that direction is 569 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 5: would they consider a talking filibuster? And frankly, should they 570 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 5: consider that we are there on the floor, we are ready. 571 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 5: So I think it's safe to say that the Save Act, 572 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 5: whether they bring it up or not, I don't think 573 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 5: on the other end of that consideration that the Senate 574 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 5: is sending it to the President's desk. 575 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: Let's talk about this, DHS. So we're in a moment 576 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: here where Donald Trump has unilaterally declared war. He has 577 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: started this situation. The reporting is all over the place. 578 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: You know, Marco Rubio said Israel told him to do it. 579 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: The Washington Post said that the Saudis told him to 580 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: do it. Who even knows what's going on. I want 581 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: you to talk about like the House is going to 582 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: try to do a War Powers Act. It does not 583 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: seem like to me this president is going to be 584 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: fettered by that. But what can you and the Senate do? 585 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, as you just stated, there have been probably a 586 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 5: half a dozen reasons given for getting into this illegal war. 587 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 5: They changed the explanation hour to hour. This is ridiculous. 588 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 5: This is a war of choice. We were not under attack, 589 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 5: we were not under imminent threat of attack. The goal 590 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 5: posts change. There's no goal that's been articulated, there's no strategy, 591 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 5: there's no exit path. This is an illegal war and 592 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 5: this is not what the American people want. And this 593 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 5: is what Trump promised never to do. He was going 594 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 5: to end all wars, not initiate a new what could 595 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 5: be major, long running war in the Middle East, endangering 596 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 5: our troops, endangering US citizens in the region, endangering our 597 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 5: allies in the region. So here's what I would say 598 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 5: in terms of where we are right now. Under our 599 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 5: constitution and under our laws, the president is not allowed 600 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 5: to start a war absent a congressional authorization unless we 601 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 5: are under attack or imminently under attack, which is not 602 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 5: the case. It is really on the shoulders of the 603 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 5: proponents of war to put authorization of use of military 604 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 5: force before the Congress, and a debate should ensue. I 605 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 5: remember during the lead up to the war in Iraq. 606 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 5: I remember going to the House floor I was a 607 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 5: House member back then, and arguing against going to war 608 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 5: with Iraq because we did not have any sort of 609 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 5: imminent threat that we were facing, and there were other 610 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 5: paths to resolving our differences in our issues like there 611 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 5: are and were in Iran before this president's reckless behavior. 612 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 5: So it is on the proponents to authorize this. And 613 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 5: what I would say is that, just like the Save Act, 614 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 5: I would see very little chance of that authorization being 615 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 5: successful in the United States Senate, in the meantime, we 616 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 5: want to show folks whose side were on and Tim Kaine, 617 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 5: my colleague from Virginia, is offering a war Powers resolution 618 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 5: that will allow us to do just that. 619 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: Let's talk about this. Christine Nome, you are not on 620 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: this committee, no, but you have been watching it and 621 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: was it oversighter? Is that the committee that was interviewing 622 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: her today? 623 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 5: I believe she was in front of the Judiciary Committee 624 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 5: this morning. 625 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: Judiciary, that's right, And so it seems as if, and 626 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: I've talked to other members of Congress who have said 627 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: the same, that impeaching her would be very much a 628 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: sort of low hanging fruit. Do you think that's true? Clearly? 629 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean, there are so many reasons for impeachment if 630 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: you think about like the advertisements, the two hundred and 631 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars she spent on advertisements boosting her brand 632 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: with a contractor that was set up eleven days before. 633 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: That was what Ken he talked about. There are just 634 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: quite a lot of reasons to do that. Do you 635 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: see you think that is possible? I mean, it will 636 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: have to come from the House, but do you think 637 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: there's a world where that happens? 638 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 5: Months ago? Now, I called on secretary knowing to resign 639 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 5: or Trump to fire her, or her to be impeached. 640 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 5: She's got to go. But when we watch, and remember 641 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 5: I'm from Wisconsin, so we're next door to Minnesota, we 642 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 5: are watching in the Twin Cities as she presides over 643 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 5: chaos and a rogue agency that is masked, armed, untrained, 644 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 5: roving the streets, residential neighborhoods, schools, churches, health care facilities. 645 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 5: If that is not reason for impeachment, resignation, or firing, 646 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 5: I can't tell you what is. But there are two 647 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 5: US citizens who are no longer with us because of 648 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 5: that rogue agency, and it needs to be rained in 649 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 5: and she needs to go. 650 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Casey Means confirmation here. So she 651 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: wants to be surgeon in General. Talk us through this 652 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: confirmation hearing. Yes, So the. 653 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 5: Surgeon General is often referred to as the nation's top 654 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 5: doctor or the nation's doctor, and so it's particularly important 655 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 5: to have a figure who is trusted, who relies on 656 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 5: evidence and science. And when I saw the nomination of 657 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 5: Casey Means, who I probably know more by what I've 658 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 5: seen on line, her hawking supplements and tests and diagnostics. 659 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 5: It's just kind of like she goes hand in hand 660 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 5: with RFK June year and wants to profit off of 661 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 5: poking holes or raising doubt about well settled science. There's 662 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 5: so many reasons to be suspicious of her nomination, including 663 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 5: the fact that she could not answer any of my 664 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 5: colleagues's questions about vaccines, their efficacy, their safety straight. She 665 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 5: had all sorts of wiggle room in every answer. But 666 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 5: also my concern and what I questioned her about, was 667 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 5: her conflicts of interest. I asked her about a company 668 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 5: called Genova Diagnostics that paid her thousands of dollars for 669 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 5: boosting some of their products. I asked her if she 670 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 5: knew that that company settled a forty three million dollar 671 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 5: case of false claims making fraudulent claims about your products 672 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 5: before she took money from them, and she said, oh, 673 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 5: I'm unaware of that, and then went on to underscore 674 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 5: her support of some of their products. I believe she's 675 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 5: terribly conflicted with regard to how she's made her hundreds 676 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 5: of thousands, if not millions of dollars and the role 677 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 5: she would play as Surgeon General if confirmed. 678 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this stuff is just wild. And there 679 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: were other companies too, that she was doing this with. 680 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: Does it seem like she's going to get confirmed? 681 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 5: You know, I always hold up hope that enough of 682 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 5: my colleagues will see the light. You know, first she'll 683 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 5: have to come through committee with a very tight Senate 684 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 5: majority on the part of Republicans. Most of our committees. 685 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 5: You know, the vote can be decided by one vote. 686 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 5: So I certainly hope that one or more of my 687 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 5: Republican colleagues will opt to vote know who advance her nomination. 688 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 5: That could take care of it in short order. But 689 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 5: I saw the contortions that went on when RFK Junior 690 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 5: came before our committee, when the chairman of our committee, 691 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 5: the Help Committee, Cassidy, extracted all these promises from RFK 692 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 5: Junior in exchange for his yes vote on his confirmation, 693 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 5: including that he would come to our committee quarterly, and 694 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 5: he has come twice, including his nomination hearing, since the 695 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 5: beginning of the Trump administration. This is the example of 696 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 5: what happens. I hope that my Republican colleagues will see 697 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 5: Casey means for who she is and vote no. 698 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: There are ways to just stop confirming people and to 699 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: throw sand in the gears. What's your take? On this 700 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: like it definitely seems when you watch those Gnome hearings 701 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: there are Republicans who are not pleased with how this 702 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: is going. Again, this is my personal opinion. I worry 703 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: that Thumor, who I have talked to many times, may 704 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: not want to operate in a new and super aggressive 705 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: way that this moment calls for. So explain to us 706 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: what you think sort of the moment is here. 707 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, let me separate, for example, the ability of 708 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 5: the minority party to hold up confirmations with other things 709 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 5: we can do to rise to this moment. So, you know, 710 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 5: we were talking earlier about the Gnome hearing. Tom Tillis 711 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 5: had quite the day at that hearing, questioning and bringing 712 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 5: focus onto Secretary Nomes performance. I want to just bring 713 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 5: it back to another instance where a member of the 714 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 5: majority party, the Republican Party, same person, Tom Tillis, reacted 715 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 5: to President Trump's threat to indict or investigate criminally the 716 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 5: head of and he said that as long as that 717 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 5: investigation was going on, he would not vote to confirm 718 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 5: anybody to that body or to write, you know, to 719 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 5: confirm somebody's chair to succeed Jerome Paul. So one member 720 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 5: of the majority party has a lot of sway on 721 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 5: those sort of things. But back to what the minority 722 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 5: party can do. You know, I think we are watching 723 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 5: right now. I mean we've watched this present be lawless overreach, 724 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 5: do unconstitutional things over and over and over again. But 725 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 5: when you bring a nation to war, and illegal war 726 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 5: where there was no imminent threat, there was no attack. 727 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 5: When you do that, I think we have to do 728 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 5: everything we can in our power to bring this to 729 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 5: a stop. 730 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, are you willing to sort of just push 731 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: as hard as you can at this moment? 732 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 733 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Thank you, Senator Baldwin, thank you. 734 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 1: No moment, Jesse Cannon, so MARII. 735 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 2: The DOJ has dropped the cases against the law firms 736 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 2: targeted by Trump's orders to go after them. 737 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't even say thank you for the Dow 738 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: at fifty thousand, But that's because the Dow is no 739 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 1: longer at fifty thousand. 740 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 3: Big drop today, Yeah, yikes. 741 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. This is the great truism of trump Ism. And 742 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: as someone who is so incredibly stressed about this moment 743 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: in time, I really do think it's worth pausing and 744 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: just looking at this truism, which is these guys do 745 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: not win. This stuff is illegal. Even the tariffs were 746 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: ruled illegal. And that is why the difference between Trump 747 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 1: one point zero and Trump two point zero is really 748 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: that if you don't cave, you will win. If you 749 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: don't cave, you will when if you do preemptively cave, 750 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: you will absolutely lose. And I feel like, if nothing else, 751 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: that is really the most important thing you can focus 752 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 1: on in this administration is that if you don't cave, 753 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: you will ultimately win. That's it for this episode of 754 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: Fast Politics. Tune in every Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Saturday 755 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: to hear the best minds and politics make sense of 756 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: all this chaos. If you enjoy this podcast, please send 757 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: it to a friend and keep the conversation going. Thanks 758 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: for listening.