1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep within 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Fresco, 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys like Ted Lambs and now your hosts Brian 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: brought us David Hellman, Bucky Brooks, and Kyle Yeomans. There 6 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: are one hundred and thirty four days remaining until the 7 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one NFL drafted. We are fully engold in 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: the draft process even though there's still three weeks left 9 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: of the NFL season. Welcome into the Dallas Cowboys dot 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: Com Draft Show. It's episode three of the twenty twenty 11 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: one draft and I'm glad to be back alongside Brian 12 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: brought us repertus Joe Burrow Jersey because those LSU Tigers 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: got themselves a win this week over the Florida Gators. 14 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: And you can see David Hellman he's pretty happy. That's 15 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: how he celebrated his birthday was by the win of 16 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: the LSU Tigers. And then we've got Bucky Brooks as well, 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: Chris Beam holding down the fourth back at the Star 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: in Frisco. And who wants to start Brian Dave, who 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: wants to start about these LSU Tigers. I want to 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: kind of get it out of the way early. I 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: want to kind of talk about it. I love Brian's jacket, 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: so I think I'm gonna let Bronas go first here. 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: But that is a fantastic hoodie with the Joe Burrow 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: reppin and all. I mean, how happy are you that 25 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: you finally got that win and it was against the 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: top ten opponent as well. Yeah it was. We were 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: a shoe in all the time to win the things. 28 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was a great thing for the for 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: the Tigers to get that victory. And by the way, 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: let's take congratulation to Bucky Brooks North Carolina tar Heels 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: putting it on ye. Yeah, I mean this is say, 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: this is a winning this is a winning combination right here. 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: But good for anytime your program gets a big victory, 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: it makes your week a whole lot better. And we 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: had a lot of good weeks last year this week 36 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: this year, we haven't had this many, but it was 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: nice to get one against that crew. I can actually 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: tie this back to the Cowboys because if you're if 39 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: you're a Cowboys fan listening, you understand I'm not asking 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: you to win every game. I'm just asking you to 41 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: look like a competent football team, and that has not 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: been the case for the Cowboys or the LSU Tigers 43 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: this year. But hey, they they both did it this weekend. 44 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: So nice of them to both put on a good 45 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: show at the same time for a change, because that 46 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: hasn't happened a lot in twenty twenty. Yeah, Bucky, I 47 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: mean I feel like all of our teams won. So 48 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: the Cowboys won, we got LSU a dub, We've got 49 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: UNC getting the dub, we got North Texas winning, and hey, 50 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 1: the one guy that we have a chance to get 51 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: get drafted had four touchdowns. But Bucky, how did your 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: weekend go overall? And what are you looking for? It 53 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: was a great weekend. You guys alluded to Carolina and 54 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: knocking off Miami and just seeing them run the ball 55 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: at will. I mean, you just don't see run for 56 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: fifty yard for two running backs. But no, it was 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: a great weekend. And then the Cowboys finally coming up 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: and playing well. I just don't want them to win 59 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: too many because then you know, you kind of out 60 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: of the kind of out of the race when it 61 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: comes to the top pick. So wait, which looks like Bucky. 62 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: That's a that's a phenomenal point because I mean, you know, 63 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: we want the Cowboys to be good. They're they're mathematically 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: still alive in the playoffs, but if they're gonna win 65 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: a game, it worked out pretty great for us because 66 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: the lah Chargers also won, so they haven't given up 67 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: a ton of ground in the draft packing order. And 68 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: then you know the gamble, You kind of take a 69 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: gamble when you start a draft show before the season's 70 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: over that you know it's gonna it's gonna look a 71 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: little weird if they make the playoffs. But you know, 72 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: Washington took care of business on Sunday afternoon, and I 73 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: guess we can't speak too too soon, but it doesn't 74 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: look like the Cowboys are playoff plat bound right now. 75 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: So now we can just sit back and see which 76 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: pick they get. Well, this is a great set way 77 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: into kind of what I wanted to hit early here 78 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: in this show is the fact of how costly are 79 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: these wins, because at least earlier in the week, and 80 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: we were talking last week of if they beat the Bengals, 81 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: then they're not the third overall pick. That's where they 82 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: would have been if they would have had the loss, 83 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: But we were expecting them to jump to eight, nine, 84 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: ten overall, kind of like how Philadelphia did with their 85 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: win over New Orleans. Now they're picking ninth in the 86 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: pecking order, at least at this very moment. The Giants 87 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: with the loss has them at ten, but the Cowboys 88 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: with their win only moved them down to five in 89 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: the draft orders. So I ask you, guys the question 90 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: of whenever it comes to these wins later in the season, 91 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: and especially for those of you Bucky and Brian who 92 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: have been on a scouting staff, have been a coaching 93 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: staff previously, but how costly are these wins or is 94 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: it still something that you want to build going in 95 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty one. Yeah, I think they're You know, 96 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: it's when you start to think about going for that 97 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: you you see, you want to win the games. You 98 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: absolutely want to win these games. And so you know, 99 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 1: as a front office, you know, because that's your job 100 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: that now fans on the outside when the season doesn't 101 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: look right, you know, when you know you're not going 102 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: to really go anywhere, when you really don't have a shot, 103 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: and you start to think about what's the best way 104 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: to help our football team, and the draft is the 105 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: best way to do that. You know. The draft is 106 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: the way that you know, if you get to pick 107 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: high in every single round, you give yourself a shot 108 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: to go and get players to make a difference for 109 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: your football team. And so, yeah, front office guys they 110 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: want to win that, you know, that's their job. Fans 111 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: that understand the big picture of things, Yeah, these these wins, 112 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: they come at a cost because there's gonna be differences 113 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: when we really start getting into this and the different 114 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: tiers of players and the ones you're going to have 115 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: available to you. Uh, that's you know. I tell my 116 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: folks all the time that listen to me, Hey, when 117 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: you win these games, don't complain to me when I 118 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: tell you you're going to pick the fourth best corner 119 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: and not the first best corner. So that's where this 120 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: thing will fall for a lot of these as we 121 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: go forward here. Yeah, Brian, you make a great point, 122 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: because front officers are tasked with winning. The coaches are 123 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: coaching their tails off because they not only want to win, 124 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: but they want to get some of this heat off 125 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: of them for a disappointing season. However, I still think 126 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: as a scout, you kind of look towards the draft 127 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: and you're trying to figure out where there's strengths and weaknesses, 128 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: and if we fall too far, we could put ourselves 129 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: in a shallow pool when it comes to the positions 130 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: of greatest need. And so when I look at the 131 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: Cowboys sitting at five, you're still in good shape. But 132 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: now if you win some more games, it changes the 133 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: dynamic with some of your biggest needs and some of 134 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: the players that could be available at those spots. You know, 135 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: it's I talked about this yesterday on Cowboys break is. 136 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 1: I don't mind at all that they won that game. 137 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: First of all, as we saw, like even against the 138 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: bad Cowboys team, the Bengals are another level of bad Bucky. 139 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: You alluded to that when you previewed him last week, 140 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: Like you like the last thing you told us was like, 141 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: if the Cowboys can't beat this team, I don't even know. 142 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. So on like, 143 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: first of all, it maybe it was never realistic to 144 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys could lose that game. I also think, 145 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, you want to establish a winning mindset, Like 146 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it's good for anybody, coaches players, anybody 147 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: to just like lose out the rest of the season 148 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: and finish with, you know, three wins. I don't. I 149 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: don't think that's a good idea. So I don't mind 150 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: that they won that game. Like I said, like it 151 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: hasn't moved them in the draft order too much because 152 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 1: of what else is happening around them. But I will say, 153 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: if if you're getting if you're getting up to five 154 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: or six wins, now I'm getting nervous about the the 155 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: talent that's going to be available to you because I 156 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: actually I looked at this before we went on the show, 157 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: like the Chargers are gonna lose some more games, Like 158 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: they've still got a game against the Chiefs, they got 159 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: to play a pretty decent Raiders team. Carolina's playing Green Bay. 160 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Think they've got Washington as well. Atlanta's playing the Chiefs 161 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: as well as the Buccaneers, who are in a wild 162 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: card chase right now. Like a lot of these teams 163 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: that are around the Cowboys are definitely going to lose 164 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: some more games. So it's cool that they beat the Bengals, 165 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: but every win they get for the rest of these 166 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: three weeks stands to really affect them in the draft order, 167 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: and I would probably advise against doing too much more. 168 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: Winning well with this win against Cincinnati, ultimately they lost out. 169 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: It was the Pinna Seul Bowl, And right now it 170 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: seems like you have lost out on Pina Soul offensive 171 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: tackle out of Oregon, and we're going to get into 172 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: just how good he is and where he compares with 173 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the offensive tackle should the Cowboys potentially 174 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: want to go in that direction later in the draft 175 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: or at least whenever they end up picking. But I 176 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: kinda want to ask you guys about the difference between 177 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: a top five prospect and a player of another prospect 178 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: with a first round grade, because that's kind of what 179 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: we're talking about right now, is if you're going to 180 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: be in the top five, you're gonna have a top 181 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: five guy. But if you're going to be in five 182 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: through twelve or even five through twenty, especially with this 183 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: draft class, you're going to be limited with the talented 184 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: prospects that you have. But Brian, whenever it comes to 185 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: separating these guys into those tiers, what goes into that 186 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: and what's the biggest difference between those players? Well, the 187 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: biggest difference I think, and when you watch these players, 188 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: it's clear when you have those players that have that 189 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: rare top five talent. When you sit down in that 190 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: war room and watch tape with everybody and then listen 191 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: to the area's scout describe the player. Listen to the 192 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: regional scout, describe the player. Listen to the cross checker 193 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: describe the player. It's like you're watching that tape and 194 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: you're like going, Okay, I see every single thing that 195 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: those scouts are talking about right now. My own eyes 196 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: can tell me that. I mean, there is a clear 197 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: difference when you get to the top of that draft. 198 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: And you know that's why when you stack your board 199 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: from that one to one fifty and you put them 200 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: in order of how you would take them, it's clear 201 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: those guys have that, you know. I mean I used 202 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: to always the night before the draft, I would say this, Uh, 203 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: I'd look at the board. I'm saying, please, football guys, 204 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: let the tags glow of the ones that are gonna 205 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: be all pros, you know, just let him glow for 206 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: me so I can. I could see that. But with 207 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: these top, these top guys, you could tell, you know 208 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: exactly maybe the traits, the characteristics, the way they play 209 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: on tape, the way they handle their interviews and stuff 210 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: like that. I mean that the pieces all come together. 211 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: Now when you get down towards the middle of the board, 212 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: maybe the traits aren't as pronounced, and it's kind of 213 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: like you're sitting there going, okay, we're having to dig 214 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: a little further, and maybe he's comparing to this guy. 215 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: He's this guy's got a couple more traits than this guy. 216 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: And oh wait, the interview puts him over here, and 217 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: so yeah, it's it's it's a little bit more of 218 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: they have of a putting the puzzle together at the 219 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: middle to the bottom as it is to top those 220 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: those tags at the top. You know that those guys 221 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: up there could play football. Now you bust on him sometimes, 222 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: but also then you have times where those guys are 223 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: your Hall of Fame type players as well. So it's funny, 224 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: Run I learned this from you going all the way 225 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: back to when I was playing in Green Bay and 226 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: we were at a workout in Carolina, and I don't 227 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: know if you remember, it was Brian Simmons linebacker that 228 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: went to Cincinnati in the first round, and was Kay 229 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: Mays who was a linebacker from Carolina that went to 230 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: the fourth round to the Minnesota Vikings, and we're sitting 231 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: there watching the workout and and watching the workout. One 232 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: guy was super explosive, super dynamic. You could just tell 233 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: and you whisper to my heir, that's the dish between 234 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: a first rounder and a fourth rounder. And so to 235 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: bring it in the first round. When you think about 236 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: a top five player, a top five player has typically 237 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: all of the blue chip traits, size, athleticism, production, he's dominant. 238 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: He's a guy that you can easily see as a 239 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: top two or three player in this position really quickly. 240 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: A first round guy may have eighty to ninety percent 241 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: of the traits, but when you look at him, you're like, Okay, 242 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: he can be a starter. He can be a starter 243 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: right away. He's gonna make that contribution. I think the 244 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: best example I can give right now recently is the 245 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: game that Chase Young had on Sunday. That is what 246 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: a top five player is supposed to do right away, 247 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: Like when you put them on the field. It is 248 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: easily readily inapparent like okay, yeah, we gotta do it. 249 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: Shouldn't take you a lot of time to go through 250 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: the tape and do all this other stuff to figure 251 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: out if you can play. Because if you're spending that 252 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: long debating he's not a top five guy, it stands 253 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: out it's easy. I mean, it's it's the easiest guy 254 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: that you can get. Like, okay, yeah he's a guy. 255 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: Now how high do I want to put my grade on? 256 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: But you know, a top five player when you see 257 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: when it stands out, I completely I was just gonna 258 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: say when you you said earlier that you were okay 259 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: losing or winning this game whenever it comes to the 260 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals game. But it's the reason why you you 261 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: are a little bit more at peace about the win 262 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: is because maybe those top five guys and those guys 263 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: that are dudes, and the guys that stand out like 264 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: Bucky and Brian just said, just aren't necessarily the same 265 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: caliber of guys that we've seen in other drafts. Exactly 266 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: what I was about to say is, you know, I 267 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: don't want to put any words in anybody's mouth, but 268 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: I think we would all agree that there's not a 269 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: Chase Young in this draft class, right. I mean, other 270 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: than maybe maybe you feel great about one of the quarterbacks, 271 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: but in terms of all the other positions. I don't 272 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: think you have that slam dunk guy that's just got 273 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: to go in the top two. And I'm actually, you know, 274 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: I was. I was looking at other draft classes, and 275 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: I agree with everything they said, like there's typically a 276 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: clear difference between like your top five can't miss guy 277 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: and then everybody else. But then you know, you gotta 278 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: keep in mind too that all of these teams are 279 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: going to evaluate guys different and beauty is really in 280 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: the eye of the beholder. You got to give coaching 281 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: staffs a chance to get in there and mess everything up, 282 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: like we always joke that they do. I mean, like, 283 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: right right off the top of my head, you know, 284 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: Chase Young was the obvious number two guy. Jeff Okuda 285 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: goes number three. Who goes number four in last year's draft, 286 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas, which surprised a lot of people, and a 287 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: lot of people would have told you he's probably the 288 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: least promising of the big offensive tackles, and maybe the 289 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: best of them is either McKay Beckton, who went to eleventh, 290 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: or Jedrick Wills, who's been playing so great for Cleveland 291 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: helping their offensive line. He goes number ten, and the 292 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: reason I bring these things up or even you know, 293 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: last year, nobody thought or two years ago, I'm sorry, 294 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: nobody thought Cleveland Ferrell would be the third overall pick 295 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: to the Oakland Raiders except for Mike Mayock. And then 296 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones goes sixth overall, which floored a ton of people, 297 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, a guy like Josh Allen 298 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: is sitting for you there at seventh overall. And I 299 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: bring all of this stuff up to say, yes, you 300 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: won as high of a pick as possible. Yes, the 301 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: blue chip players are typically at the top of the draft, 302 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: but stuff happens every year that gives you a shot 303 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: at these type of guys later on in the process. 304 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm not gonna lose sleep if the 305 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys pick seventh instead of fourth, because especially in a 306 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: year like this where I don't think there are as 307 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: many slam dunk prospects at the top of the draft, 308 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: I just I think it'll work itself out to where 309 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: you have a pretty good player sitting there for you 310 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: even if you fall a little bit. Now, let's talk 311 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: about one of those those blue chip guys really quickly 312 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: before we take our first break, but the Cowboys losing 313 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: out on pina Soul with the win potentially because like 314 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: Dave just said, things could happen. He could fall to you, 315 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: but how much different is pina Soul at the offensive 316 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: tackle spot, Bucky when it comes to the rest of 317 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: these offensive tackles, Where does he compare and how much 318 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: of a difference is it if the Cowboys wanted to 319 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: go offensive line in this first round. No, he's a 320 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: unique talent. He's a unique talent because he's a big, 321 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: athletic edge player who has the ability to get to 322 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: the next level two plays with great ballot, has the 323 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: nasty that you want to see on the edge, and 324 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: he's dominant and disruptive. You know. I think the biggest 325 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: thing that stood out to me is I had a 326 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: chance to talk to Marlon Davidson from Auburn last year 327 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: here and Derek Brown, and I asked him who is 328 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: the best offensive linement that you saw? And I'm thinking 329 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna say sec guy, maybe Andrew Thomas whatever. And 330 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: to a man that said, o'penny swell is real. They 331 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: say he has a level of dog and national's to 332 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: him that we were surprised because look, West Coast Pac twelve. 333 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: You don't really see that kind of player, and so 334 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: he's a talented player. Mario crystal Ball squears by him, 335 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: says he's one of the best guys that he's ever 336 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: been around, and given who's been exposed to I think 337 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: it carries weight. I think the one thing that you 338 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: worry about because he hasn't played like just kind of 339 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: where is he? But when I looked at him up 340 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: close last year justin Herbert's Pro day, he is not 341 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: a big man in terms of fat or whatever. Everything 342 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: is together is locked and loaded. I mean, he's a 343 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: body beautiful type. Considering your six six, three hundred and 344 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: thirty pounds, you just don't see guys built like that 345 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: that I can also move and play like that. Yeah, 346 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: and guys, what you're doing is you're watching a nineteen 347 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: year old play right now too. You know this is 348 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: not a This is not a guy that's an older guy. 349 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, yeah, you're having to watch 350 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: that tape from last year. And if you do watch 351 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: the Auburn tape, if you get an opportunity, that was 352 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: that was a tough game. There were a couple of 353 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: games where he had some he had some games. You 354 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: can watch Auburn USC you can watch the Washington game. 355 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: I mean there were some times where he had his 356 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: hands full. But you have to remember he's nineteen years old, 357 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: he's six six, he's three hundred and thirty pounds. The 358 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: ease of movement is incredible with this guy. And I 359 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, I you know, anytime you you talk about 360 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, guys that can play at space, can get 361 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: to the second level, can you know, make the backside cutoffs? 362 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: Can you know it just can hammer guys at the 363 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: point of attack, get to movement in the running game 364 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: when you have to do that, create a lane when 365 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: they're running the ball. These are all things that this 366 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: kid can do. And you know, the ease movement, it's 367 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: just it's almost effortlessen And again you're watching tape of 368 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: a nineteen you will play and so you know, is 369 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: there some things he could work on? Yeah? Absolutely. I 370 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 1: there's times in that Auburn game where I didn't think 371 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: he finished great. But that's again the level of competition. 372 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: You want to watch these guys play against the best, 373 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: and that will kind of they'll paint a picture of 374 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: really with the type of player that he is. But 375 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: there's some other tackles in this draft. I think that 376 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: that Merrick consideration too. This is just not a one 377 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: tackle draft. I think there's a couple of guys in 378 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: here that could really help a football team. Yeah, I 379 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: think you've got guys like ray Shon Slater, Samuel cosmey 380 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: derres All from Virginia tack There are multiple offensive tackles 381 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: that could go in the first round, but they're just 382 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: not what Penne Soule is And that's one of the 383 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: reasons why he's one of those blue chip guys that 384 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: Bucky and Brian were just talking about a couple of 385 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: moments ago. 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On the twenty. 433 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: I don't know if we have a play back in 434 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: the background there it is, okay, I talked right over 435 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: but that's okay, But yes, Twitter on the twenty it's 436 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: a little different doing it virtually, but hey, Chris Bean 437 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: holding it down the four back at the studio. Let's 438 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: go to Tony Baker. And this is the one that 439 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: I tease going into the break boys. How could the 440 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: how far could the Cowboys trade down or drop I'd 441 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: put it out in parentheses to still get a quality 442 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: player in this draft. And this is kind of talking 443 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: about trade doown potentials and what you would get for 444 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: those trade doowns, but just specifically, whenever you're talking about 445 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: draft position in this first round, Bucky, where could they 446 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: fall for the Cowboys to still get a really solid 447 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: player that can make an immediate impact. I mean, Bryan 448 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: would know this. Ron Wolf would always tell you there's 449 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: anywhere from twenty two to twenty four players that are 450 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: really first round players. And so I think when you 451 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: get too low in the first round, you put yourself 452 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: out of the market to get what we call a 453 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: blue chip player. And so I understand like the novelty 454 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: of trading down, but if there's a good player sitting 455 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: right there, I'm about getting good players. And so I 456 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 1: think when you do this, you do this looking at 457 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: the board and understanding where that cluster of players at 458 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: positions that you may really really want, where that line is, 459 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: and you put yourself in position to make sure that 460 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: you don't miss out on a player that you deem 461 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: to be a guy that can come in right away 462 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: and make contributions. Yeah, Bookie's absolutely right. You know. The 463 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: one thing that we learned in Grey and it's something 464 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: I carried over to the places, and you know, and 465 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: had discussions with other teams I was with, is you 466 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: never want to trade away from a great player. You 467 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: just don't. You just I mean, I don't care. And 468 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: and scouts are guilty of gimme picks, gimme picks, gimme picks, 469 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. But you know, you 470 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: need to stand in there and pick a player. If 471 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: you've got a guy on that board that's that you 472 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: feel like, man, this guy could come in, he could 473 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: start for us, he could play for us for two 474 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: contracts and be great standing there and make that pick, 475 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: you know. And and I kind of feel like, though, 476 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: then even if you got even if you were say 477 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: it the in the four whole picket and you're and 478 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: it's not the board doesn't really fall the right way 479 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: for you. You know, if you take your highest rated guy, 480 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna probably be okay. And so I just don't 481 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: see dropping from like four to twelve and then having 482 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: to sweat those picks in between. There could be a 483 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: level where you feel like, okay, let's take for sample, 484 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: all these cornerbacks. You know, maybe you don't feel like 485 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: they're all top four on your on a board overall, 486 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: but maybe when the stack hits they're somewhere around seven, 487 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: eight nine, right around there. Now, if you can make 488 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: a deal where you could go down a couple of 489 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: spots and grab those guys, and your intelligence tells you 490 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: that the teams between you are not going to take 491 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 1: a quarter or somebody's not going to come up there 492 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: and jump, you know. That's why I feel like, though 493 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: you can, you can make those kinds of deals. But 494 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: to sit there at bail from four to eighteen just 495 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: to get some picks, I don't think that necessarily is 496 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: the right way to run your draft sounds kind of 497 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: sounds kind of cowardly, Brian, to be honest with you, 498 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: like let's let's have some. Let's have some. I'm kidding. 499 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: I can't even say that with a straight face. I'm sorry. Yeah, 500 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: you're talking about trade. You want to trade back to keep. 501 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: I just want to point that, like I feel like 502 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 1: it's my duty. I just feel like people get tunnel 503 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: vision when it comes to the draft, like there's only 504 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: one way to do it. You gotta pick here. You know, 505 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to 506 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: people that are listening. But I think it always depends 507 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: on what are you getting in return, what do you 508 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: think is there? How far are they asking you to go, 509 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: like in a vacuum. Let's just say the Cowboys are 510 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: going to pick in the top ten, and I think 511 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: they probably will. If I'm if I have a top 512 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: ten pick, I would feel real leery about trading past 513 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: like fourteen or fifteen, unless it is for excessts, for 514 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: just a total haul of picks. Having said that, though, 515 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: I think this is a really interesting point again going 516 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: back into recent history. Twenty seventeen draft, the Buffalo Bills 517 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: hold the tenth overall pick. Now they should have picked 518 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes. Everybody should have picked Pat Mahomes. I totally 519 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: understand that, but they don't because Kansas City wants him. 520 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: So they bail all the way to twenty seven. They 521 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: get a third round pick and next year's won, they 522 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: find an All Pro corner in Tredavious White, and then 523 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: they use the first to get Josh Allen the very 524 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: next year. And Josh Allen is not Pat Mahomes, but 525 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: he seems like he's on a really nice trajectory to 526 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: be a very good quarterback. So when I hear that, 527 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: I say, man, you can trade back really far, get 528 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: some good resources and still find a good player if 529 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: you know what you're doing. Now. Would I want a 530 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: trade all the way back to twenty seven, Absolutely not. 531 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: But I do think it's interesting that a team did 532 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: that and still managed to have it work out really well. Well, 533 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: it worked out for the Cowboys if you look now. 534 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: It didn't work out for the compensation and they got back. 535 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: If you remember the Travis Frederick trade, they basically go 536 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: from like eighteen or thirty or thirty one, and you know, 537 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: and they should have got a two in compensation. They 538 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: took the three. So you know, because they bailed because 539 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: they just panicked and got out of there. You take 540 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: less compensation if you're going to get a haul that 541 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: makes sense for you. You know, it's for example, if 542 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: you trading with a team for like next year's one, 543 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: and that's a team that might be like a team 544 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: that gets back in the playoffs the next year, and 545 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: then that that pick turns into twenty two or twenty three. Yeah, 546 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: it's a first round pick, but you would like to 547 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: just try and get as many high picks you know 548 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: going forth. This this to me, this is about trying 549 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: to fix things now and if I can, if I 550 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: can get a bad team behind me that wants to 551 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: move up, and I know that they're pick they're about 552 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: to give me, or two picks they're about to give 553 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: me in this current draft are high picks, and they're 554 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: kind of maybe right around where my picks are gonna be. 555 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: I'll double dip all day. I'll absolutely double dip all day. 556 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: I just don't want to see I don't feel like 557 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: that we need to see this massive drop, you know, 558 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: from from say five down to eight and then oh yeah, 559 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. Yeah, it worth great for Buffalo, 560 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: but does that in this a team that needs to 561 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: take quality players now? Is that really the best player. 562 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: I think the danger in all of it is because 563 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: it's really cute on the outside to kind of move 564 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: and if you lead the board as they say, and 565 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: he looks like fantasy a fantasy football draft. I did this. 566 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: I did that. I think at the end of the day, 567 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: it should always be players over picks. If you get 568 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: enough good players, the picks don't matter. And even if 569 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: that means sometimes in trade, because we've seen in recent 570 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: years teams have given up picks to get players Jamal Adams, 571 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs and others. It is about can you identify 572 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: the player and how he would fit into your system 573 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: versus what's behind door number two? And so I'm more 574 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: likely to just a I found a player that I like, 575 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the player, and I'm gonna live with 576 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: the stuff, as opposed to getting a couple of extra 577 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: picks that I don't necessarily know if I'm a hit 578 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: on or not lucky. Do you still think that's the case. 579 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: Whenever you're in a Cowboys standpoint and this defense, it's 580 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: more than one player, more than one guy, And that's 581 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: kind of where I think Cowboys fans are looking at 582 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: it is they're not just one player away on defense. 583 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: They're only they're more than just that one guy from 584 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: making a big difference. They want multiple darts at the 585 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: dark board to try and find a player to work 586 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: out for them, and maybe multiple players to work out 587 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: for them. But do you stick with that same kind 588 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: of mindset even with the situation the color? I mean, 589 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: I think everything is always negotiable, depending upon what it is. 590 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: But I would rather have one A player than a 591 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: bunch of b's and c's because the A player players 592 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: can make a difference, and his ability to dominate and 593 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: disrupt will allow everybody else to look like a good player. 594 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: And so if that's a pass rusher, well, a great 595 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: pass rusher then impacts the way that you cover because 596 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: you don't have to cover as long. A great cover 597 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: corner impacts the pass rush. So a lot of it 598 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: depends on the player. But if I can get an 599 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: A level player, I'm more likely to get that player 600 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,239 Speaker 1: as opposed to kind of wait on a bunch of 601 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: guys where I have a bunch of numbers, but I 602 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: may not have the same kind of production and disruption. Well, 603 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: here we were talking about the cowboys picking high, and 604 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about offensive players at the top of the board. 605 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, We're talking about offensive tackles 606 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and so that just goes to 607 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: show you though that you know, might necessarily the way 608 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the top of this draft board, there 609 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 1: seems to be more of better offensive players than there 610 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: are defensive playoffs. So you know, to your point, if 611 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: you feel like, well, we're not going to take these 612 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: you should take these offensive players. They did it with 613 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb and it's worked out for them. So but 614 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: I agree with Bucky. I just feel like, though you're 615 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: better off taking the guy that you feel like that 616 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: has those traits that he mentioned earlier that can help you. 617 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: And then we'll work the draft from here on. If 618 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: we have an opportunity to move in the second round 619 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: or third round and pick up some of those extra guys, 620 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: that's not a problem for me to deal with right 621 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: then and there, Let's go on to our next question. 622 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: This one comes from Brandon and Hooper, and this kind 623 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: of has something to do with a little bit of 624 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. But the Cowboys double bit last 625 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: year at cornerback, what two positions, So we're gonna try 626 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: and get a couple of opportunities to talk about it here. 627 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: But what two positions could the Cowboys double dip on 628 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: the draft this year? David Hell cornerback, just do it again, 629 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: because you know, we don't know what the future holds 630 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: for Cheeto, Woozier, Jordan Lewis. I mean, Anthony Brown is 631 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: still here, but you know that's you probably don't feel 632 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: one hundred percent comfortable with that. You obviously have Treyvon Diggs, 633 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: but they're they're gonna turn over the cornerback depth chart 634 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: again this year. And then really any position on the 635 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: d line, but I'll say edge rusher um just because 636 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, again we don't know what the future holds 637 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: for Aldon Smith. You have Randy Gregory and DeMarcus Lawrence, 638 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: but you'd probably like a little more juice there. Doren's 639 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: Armstrong is not in a contract year, but he's nearing 640 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: the end. He's closer to the end of his rookie 641 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: contract in the beginning. And again, I mean, this is 642 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: not some crazy fierce pass rush. Maybe maybe you don't 643 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: double up and draft two defensive ends, but a defensive 644 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: end and the defensive tackle. But they need pass rushers. 645 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: And they need cornerbacks. And I would say safety, but 646 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: they'll just disappoint me again, so I won't. Oh, he's 647 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: not wrong about the safety. I mean, I was thinking 648 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: to myself, Kyle, when you asked the question, I double 649 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: dip a safety. But I know they won't draft the 650 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: safety now maybe maybe maybe this is maybe now. And 651 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 1: I was talking to some guys. I was talking some 652 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: scouts about this, and I asked that question. I'm like, 653 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: why why no safeties? And they're like, you know, looking 654 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: back on it, we had all those safeties during the 655 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: Tristan Hill draft. And he goes, there was just such 656 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: an influence from Rod Marinelli about Tristan Hill that we got, 657 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: you know, went that direction. You know, all those safeties 658 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: were sitting on the board. They could have taken, you know, 659 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: they could have taken any one of those guys, and 660 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: they and they didn't. They passed. I have a feeling 661 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: now that they, you know, this is very eye opening 662 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: to them. What happened to them, not only a corner, 663 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: but what's happened at safety, what's happened at defensive tackle, 664 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: what's happened at linebacker. I mean, you could draft any position. 665 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: I've said this before. I think they double dip the corner. 666 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: But man, there's got to be a safety in that mix. 667 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about in the sixth round. I'm 668 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: talking about it. There's a second round safety up there 669 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: that they sure need to consider that a direction to go. 670 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: You know, Brian's funny because I think it's important that 671 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: the listeners and viewers kind of understand when we're talking 672 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: late round, fourth and seventh rounders. Brian, you know, in 673 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 1: the draft room, we're talking about developmental guys, and so 674 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: if you really want to shore up a position, then 675 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: you double up. You double up high. You don't double 676 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: up with a second rounder, and in a fifth rounder 677 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: you go big. So if I got two twos and 678 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm throw both of them at corner and then let 679 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: them duke it out a two dolls one bone, I'm 680 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: willing to do that. But I think you have to 681 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: make sure that the positions that you really are concerned 682 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: about within the first three rounds, you have to throw 683 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: a couple of darts at those positions. And if something 684 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: in the lower state the later stages, that's great, But 685 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: in the first three rounds you have to find guys 686 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: that can play and they can play right away. I 687 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: like that, and one final question here on Twitter on 688 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: the twenty and then we'll move on to our final segment. 689 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: But this was just really quick and this is actually 690 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: revisiting a question from last year. This is kind of 691 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 1: what the theme has been on Twitter on the twenty today. 692 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: But who would have a better combine today? A former 693 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: athlete Brian brought us or a younger but non athletic. 694 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: I guess is what his words? Not mine? That was 695 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: Philip non athletic David Hellman. So who would have a 696 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: better combine today? I'll let Bucky start us off here, 697 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: so you know, like so the thing that you're trying 698 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: to identify in the background is you want to see 699 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: who is the guy that is kind of the scrapper. 700 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: And I just I get a sense just from being 701 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: around Dave Helman that he is scrapping. And so when 702 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: we're doing the three cone and the shuttles and all 703 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: that stuff, I think it's all about the preparation. Like 704 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: he's the guy that kind of strikes me up to 705 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: day starts at one o'clock, twelve o'clock. He's on the 706 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: turf like kind of going through his self, getting mine, right, 707 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Hillman. Nope, Nope, no disrespect 708 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: to Brian brothers, but I just kind of see I 709 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: see Hillman just kind of I'm gonna make this happen. 710 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: It's my last chance. I gotta get this done, and 711 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: so I kind of see him doing it. I see 712 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: him pulling it off. I really, well, I really appreciate that, Bucky, 713 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: but I don't I don't think I can. I don't 714 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: think I can go along with that. I mean, Brian 715 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: wins an SEC athlete and he's still he still works 716 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: out to this day. My man gets on the treadmill 717 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: and does three miles like it's nothing. I think he'd 718 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: probably say that I'd roll up to the pro day 719 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: with like a fifth of jack in my hand. So yeah, 720 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, you forgot, you forgot the cigarette hanging 721 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: out of the quarter of your mouth like hey, But 722 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: but Brian would tell you. We've had some players that 723 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: I played with that rolled up like that, and they 724 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: were pro bowlers. So it doesn't come. It doesn't coming 725 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 1: great back. Hey, I'll say this, I think Buck Buckie 726 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: is a great scout and he's absolutely right watching me 727 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: in a Pro day would be painful. I'm fifty seven 728 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: years old now. If it was a Pro Bowl of 729 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: running a marathon, I'm all in. But it's not a 730 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: day running a marathon. I'm not in. But the thing 731 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: that the thing I have no bend. I have no flexibility. 732 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: The shuttles would be bad. I would miss the line 733 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: every time. I would try and cheat the line on 734 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: the forty, I would crowd the line. Gorshack, the guy 735 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: that blows the whistle, would always be bringing me back 736 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: because I'd be jumping the jump in the line. And 737 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: then finally he'd let me run. Coughlin would tie me 738 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: at the ten. It would be like about four seconds. Yeah, 739 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, and it would just be 740 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: a disaster. The law, the broad jump would be bad. 741 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: The vertical would be bad. I think it's probably it's 742 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,479 Speaker 1: probably in everybody's best interest if we just talk about 743 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: it and don't put it. Put it okay, Yeah, oh 744 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: I I wholeheartedly. I'm sure you do. Fail. The interviews, 745 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: I would be a bad interview. Like the next day. 746 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: The next day on the NFL network, Buck he would say, Hey, 747 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: I'm hearing that brought us really poorly. In the interviews, 748 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: you know that's thought was punched a coach when he 749 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: asked him a tough question. Throat. Oh, I feel like 750 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: I feel like this has to be a post COVID 751 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: event that needs to actually happen, so I think it 752 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: doesn't need to just be taught. But I also appreciate 753 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: how analytical buck he was in that whole answer. Like 754 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: you could have taken a snippet out of that and 755 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: put it right up next to his analysis of these 756 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: other players. It wouldn't have been any different. Like he 757 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: actually had thought it out, he was ready to go. 758 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thanks for the question, Philip. That was 759 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of Hey, let me say this though real quick. Guys, 760 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: let's all go to Indianapolis and meat. Hopefully we could 761 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: do that, and I'll buy everybody a steak dinner at 762 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: Saint Elmos and we will have no Okay, we'll have 763 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: a contest to see you. Yeah, we'll see who can 764 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: eat a tomahawk chid. That's what we need to go. 765 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm in on that. Yeah, we put a put a 766 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: shrimp cocktail in there. I'll be right there with you, 767 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: and I like that. How about that? All right? Well, 768 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: when we come back here, on Talking Cowboys. Is there 769 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: a clear quarterback number two behind Trevor Lawrence. We'll discuss 770 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: it next. Right after the break, we're back in a 771 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: tasty treat that's sweeping airwaves and taste buds. It's new 772 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: Doctor pepper and cream Soda. Let's take a listen, Doctor 773 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: cream Soda. Is he a new combone. 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It'll be a late Christmas 809 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 1: gift for everybody on the draft, but this group will 810 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: be back in a couple of weeks. But I want 811 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: to hit these quarterbacks really quickly because we've been getting 812 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: a lot of questions on Twitter. Bucky Brooks, I'm sure 813 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: you've been hearing a bunch about it with your coverage 814 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: on the NFL network. But right after Trevor Lawrence, there 815 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: is a cluster of quarterbacks, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Zach Wilson. 816 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there are so many different guys that could 817 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: be considered as that quarterback number two, And I'm interested 818 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: to see where you guys think those guys are at 819 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: the moment. Brian, We'll start with you, who's your quarterback 820 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: number two and how close are they together behind Trevor Lawrence? 821 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 1: And hey, maybe Trevor Lawrence isn't your top guy. Yeah, 822 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: I've got Justin Fields is my number two guy. I 823 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: just think the actors see the mobility, the size, the 824 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: way he protects the football. I know he had a 825 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: bad game the other last time out. He had some 826 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: interceptions they throw, but overall, you watch him, he can 827 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: make all the throws. He can stand on the right 828 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: hash he could throw the ball all the way to 829 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 1: the sidelines. He's got touched down the field, the way 830 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: he manipulates the poet, the way he moves around, the 831 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: way he keeps his eyes down the field. I'm a big, 832 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: big fan of his. I'll tell you for number three, 833 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,720 Speaker 1: I really like Trey Lance out of North Dakota State. 834 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: And you know this is no disrespect to Wilson at BYU, 835 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: but I just feel like though that Trey Lance, I 836 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: think he's got some dak Prescott trades to him. And 837 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: I mean this in a way of a big, good 838 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: looking athlete. The ball really flies off his hand. You 839 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: watch him, of all the quarterbacks, that ball really is 840 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: coming off his hand. Now he's throwing to guys, and 841 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: this is no offense, no defense to those guys who offense. 842 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: Thus he's throwing the guys that are some pharmacists, some accountants, 843 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: some guys that are gonna be some cattle ranchers. You know, 844 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 1: he's throw up, and you know there's times where they 845 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 1: put him in a bad spot. But you see the touch, 846 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: you see the ball flight, and I see the toughness. 847 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: I mean he is slamming into people running the football. 848 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 1: I really like him as the number three guy, and 849 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: then Wilson after that. We'll see where Trask and the 850 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 1: others fall after that. But but Lance is a guy 851 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. I think a lot of 852 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: teams are going to fall in love with him. You know, 853 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: Ryan is funny. I think these three quarterbacks are all solid. 854 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm with you on Justin Fields, and in fact, I 855 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: believe Justin Fields should be ready closer to Trevor Lawrence 856 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: than not. I know that Trevor Lawrence is going to 857 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: be the number one, but if you go all the 858 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 1: way back from high school, these guys have always alternated 859 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: being number one and number two in the country, having 860 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: a chance to coach both of them. Both of these 861 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: guys are terrific. I think Justin Fields his baseball background 862 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 1: should not be underestimated. We've seen guys like Mahomes and 863 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Cala Murray have success because they can 864 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: do things. This is a guy that was a high 865 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: level baseball player, so keep them in mind. I think 866 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: the two that you mentioned after that, Zach Wilson and 867 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 1: Trey Lance. I think, for whatever reason, Trey Lance is 868 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 1: going to be undervalued in this draft. I think the 869 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: one game showcase actually hurt him because it kind of 870 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: leaves a vision and guy's mind. But if you go back, 871 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: can look at last year's tape. This guy was fantastic. 872 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: I had visions of him playing in a Kyle Shanahan 873 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: like system and absolutely tearing it up. He's big, six four, 874 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: two twenty eight pounds. His dad played in the CFL. 875 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: Football is not a novelty to him. This is a 876 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: really good player. Zach Wilson is also intriguing. I don't 877 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: think you can go wrong with him either. He's a 878 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: gun slinger, he has athleticism and mobility. He has a 879 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: little that I would call it that Joe Burrows swag 880 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: that when you're around, he has a little something to 881 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,720 Speaker 1: him that you like. Okay, this is not my typical 882 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 1: PYU quarterback. He can play. I think ultimately at the 883 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: end of the day, I would stack him Fields, Wilson, 884 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 1: then Lance, And the only reason I put Lance a 885 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 1: little bit behind is because the one year thing. But 886 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: I don't think you can go wrong with those players. 887 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: I think it really goes down to going to the 888 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,280 Speaker 1: ice cream shop and trying to figure out what flavor 889 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: do you want? Okay, So, Brian, remember remember in twenty 890 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: sixteen when we fell in love with Lakwan Treadwell and 891 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: it didn't work out. It was big miss, you know, 892 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: didn't have the career we thought, and we were scared 893 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: of the big bodied, bad route running receiver, like we 894 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: were scared of all those guys for like a couple 895 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: of years. So maybe maybe this is recency bias in 896 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: the opposite way because of Patrick Mahomes. But I am. 897 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: I am smitten with Zach Wilson, Like I don't want 898 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: to be the guy. I don't want to be the 899 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: guy that passes up on this guy because I thought 900 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: Bucky Bucky said it perfectly, like this guy's thumbnail. I mean, okay, 901 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: he's completing He's completing seventy percent of his passes. He's 902 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: got thirty touchdowns and three picks. I know he's not 903 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 1: playing an SEC or a big tent level of competition. 904 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: Who's playing a much higher level of competition than Trey 905 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: Lance did at BYU. I mean, they go and play everybody. 906 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, he's a freak. This guy 907 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: has got an absolute canon like he I mean, it's 908 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 1: He's got the strongest arm I think I've seen on 909 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 1: a college quarterback since Patrick Mahomes came out. And on 910 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: top of that, he just seems to kind of have 911 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 1: that it factor like you kind of want you kind 912 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: of want your quarterback to be an a hole, like 913 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: like he's an a hole, but he's my a hole. 914 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: Like nobody else likes him, but I love him. Like 915 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: That's how That's how I felt about Joe Burrow Is, Like, man, 916 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: if he wasn't on my team, I would hate this guy, 917 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: but he's on my team, so I love him. And 918 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: that's how I feel about Jack Wilson. Yeah, yeah, Zach Wilson. 919 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: It's not his fault though. I mean we talk about 920 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 1: the schedule. They had a big time schedule until the 921 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: pandemic YAP. I mean being an independent and being an 922 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: independent actually hurt him because he they had Washington, they 923 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,800 Speaker 1: had some big games on their schedule, that's some SEC 924 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 1: games since they were gonna play. I think that you 925 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: talk about the Mahome stuff, I think you do see 926 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: that that ability to move around, to to kind of 927 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: stow its side, arm to drop down, you know. But 928 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: I think the thing with Lance and maybe it's the 929 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 1: old krusty guy in me. I look at that size, 930 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 1: I look at the way he takes the snap. I 931 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 1: look at the way he moved and that ball comes 932 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: out of his hand and stuff like that. I just 933 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 1: really that that that guy right there. That to me, 934 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, that's what a quarterback looks like. But 935 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 1: everything you said about Zach Wills, about Zach Wilson is 936 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: absolutely correct. I just don't you know, it's funny and sorry, 937 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: all right, Buck, No, no, no, Dave run I think 938 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 1: it's funny because I think now more than ever, when 939 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: it comes to the traits personality and that leadership, that 940 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: confidence really really matters and really coming on the heels 941 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: of it. And I'm gonna say this in Trey Lance's favor, 942 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: coming on the heels of Jalen Hurts having the performance 943 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: that he had against New Orleans, I think it's only 944 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: going to bode will for Trey Lance because we're beginning 945 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,439 Speaker 1: to see the game change where you have to count 946 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: total yards from the quarterback position, rush yards, pass yards 947 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: and those things. And when you get a guy like 948 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: Trey Lance who can do it under center, he can 949 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 1: do it from the gun, there's a lot to light. 950 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: But I'm saying that also saying that Zach Wilson can 951 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: do those same things. And so if you're a team 952 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: in need of a quarterback, this is the year that 953 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: you want to be in the mix because all of 954 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: these guys have the trays to play in a new 955 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,399 Speaker 1: school stuff. And Brian, I hear what you're saying about 956 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: Lance's athleticism. Zach Wilson has two hundred and fifty rushing 957 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: yards and eight rushing touchdowns this season. No, no, there's 958 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 1: no question, no question. No, you're not wrong about the player. 959 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: I just me my vision, krusty scout guy. I'm looking 960 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: at I mean physically when that when I said those quarterbacks, 961 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: if they stood next to each other, they said, okay, 962 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: pick your quarterback for your your sideyard game. Oh here 963 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: a Trey Lance, come play on my team. You know. 964 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: That's that's the old that's you know, it's the same 965 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: thing with I took a lot of heat for Alan, 966 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, coming out of Wyoming. I mean they got 967 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 1: on me about, oh you like Alan, Why do you 968 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: like he can't do I go look at him? Look 969 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: at him? You tell me, you know? So it's hey, 970 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 1: I would have never and Bucky can attest to this. 971 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 1: I would have never in my life thirty years in 972 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: the National Football League ever believed that we were going 973 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 1: to take a five nine quarterback one overall. Never would 974 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: have saw it never never, never thought that the cope 975 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: would be televised, and never believe that you're gonna take 976 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: a five nine quarterback one overall, Folks, we got them 977 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: both right now, So enjoy your quarterbacks. Fucking Trike. It's 978 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: your flavor of ice cream. And yeah, I think the 979 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 1: final thing, I think your imagination and creativity now taps 980 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,240 Speaker 1: into it. It is really the conversation, Brian, what can 981 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: he be right if we do these things around him 982 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 1: just to help him. I think Dad has to be 983 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: in consideration when we look at the quarterbacks as well. 984 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,320 Speaker 1: Lots of quarterbacks up at the top of the draft, 985 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: and lots of time to talk about him throughout the 986 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,359 Speaker 1: draft process and continue to get those values up there 987 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: so that way their potential trade bait for everybody that 988 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 1: wants to come take the Dallas Cowboys spot. But not 989 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: trade down too far. Not trade down too far. We 990 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 1: talked about that earlier. It can't do that, can't go 991 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: back down that far. But that's going to do it 992 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: for us here on the Draft Show today. Hope you 993 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: enjoyed it over the last forty five minutes. For Chris 994 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 1: being back in studio, for Brian brought us, for Bucky Brooks, 995 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: and for David Helmont. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long. 996 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 1: We'll see you next Tuesday. Hey, here on the Dallas 997 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. 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