1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to The Two Pros and a 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe Podcast with LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: myself Jonas Knox. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern Time three to six am 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your local 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: station for the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: All right, Mark, we can turn this off. 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll do it. That'll do it. 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: Does this thing that I have an off button suck? 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: Do we not? Sooner? 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 4: Yeah? 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 2: LeVar is not here. We don't need to be subjective to. 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: This awful, awful song, which he would change at some point. 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course. Listen. 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Great messaging, you know it is good, good to read. 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: You know it's good, A good teaching lesson for kids. 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: All that's awesome. The song stinks, all right, So if 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: you're a songwriter or a singer, that that's the one 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: you look at and go, yeah, don't be that all right? 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: So that that's your h that's your lesson learned when 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: it comes to that front. 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 3: So speaking of sinks, by the way, did you see 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 3: the report from the Jets? 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh listen, man, the 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: New York Jets. That's you know, that's what I was, uh, 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, mentioning in the uh in the teas a 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: short time ago that if you are a Browns fan 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: and you're looking at the team, chase away their defensive 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: coordinator because they hired somebody else and led Jim Schwartz 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: to believe they were going to hire him. At least 34 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: she got the Jets to look at and be like, well, 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, there is that some misery loves company, and 36 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: the New York Jets are a miserable franchise who according 37 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: to The Athletic, apparently the Jets they reached out to 38 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: John Gruden about joining their coaching staff in some manner 39 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: he declined, and why wouldn't he. They did hire Brian 40 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: Duker as defensive coordinator, but Aaron Glenn will reportedly still 41 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: call plays. He did such a tremendous job last year, 42 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: especially in the turnover department, that they decided, why don't 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: we just have Aaron Glenn do things but still hire 44 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: a DC. Yeah, I don't understand that one either this 45 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: whole Aaron Glenn's stuff is just not God Well, it 46 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: seems like he's over his skis. 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 2: It felt like that last year. 48 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: It felt like that when he came in and he 49 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: was adamant they didn't need Aaron Rodgers only to roll 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: out whenever they rolled out the mixed messaging, the Justin 51 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: Field stuff, the Woody Johnson stuff. I think they only 52 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: kept him around for another year because firing him after 53 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: one year would be them admitting we screwed this up again. 54 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: But I don't know, if you're a Jets fan, how 55 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: you have any confidence going into this year with what's 56 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: happened with the coaching staff there already in the off season. 57 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: It's kind of like one of my kids had a 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: birthday recently and they, like some of are legos, some 59 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: of them aren't. But they got the gift and they 60 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 3: were super super excited about it. I mean they were like, 61 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: look at oh wait, and they're looking at the box 62 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: and then they kind of go to open it up 63 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: and they're all excited about it. They're getting all the 64 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: pieces out and it's like, well, they don't know what 65 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: to do with it. It's just like they don't know 66 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: how to put it together. They need mom or dad 67 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: or someone else to help. And that's the problem for 68 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn with the Jets is there's no one coming 69 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: to help or save him at this point, you know, 70 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: he is, he's in a tough spot. If you're John Gruden, 71 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: you don't know how many more shots, especially at his age, 72 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: he's going to get the especially you know, given how 73 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: long he's been out and the reasons for why he 74 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: was out. Like, I think he wants his next opportunity 75 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: to be one where it's a home run, you know, 76 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: not just like they go in and he gets another 77 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: job to get his foot in the door. I think 78 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: he looks at it and says, I need to have success. 79 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: I need to come back in and be with the winner. Otherwise, 80 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: like that could be it for me. I may never 81 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: get another opportunity, you know, given to all the other 82 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: stuff I've already had to overcome. So it makes sense 83 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: why he would decline that. I don't think it has 84 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: anything to do with, you know, Aaron Glenn. Necessarily, it's 85 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: probably more the Jets organization and the lack of you know, 86 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: really feeling like they have a quarterback that's their long 87 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: term future, because if they did a different story, Like 88 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: I bet if Joe Brady reached out for the Buffalo Bills, 89 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: He's like, you would to come help me with Josh 90 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: out and be like, hell yeah, man, I'm in on that, 91 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: Like that's John Gruden's deal. So I think it has 92 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: a lot more to do with maybe who's not there 93 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: than necessarily who is there for New York. But you're 94 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: not wrong. I mean, it feels like, unless something turns 95 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: around dramatically for the Jets this year, that Aaron Glenn's 96 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: probably gonna be gone after the season. And we're sitting 97 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: here right now in January making these comments. 98 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: Zach Rosenblatt of The Athletic He covered the Jets, and 99 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: he gave a detailed accounting as to what has gone 100 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: on there, which has sort of been you know, with 101 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl going on and everything that's happening, this 102 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: has sort of been. 103 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: Buried a little bit. 104 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: But according to Rosenblatt, there were some Jets coaches, including 105 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: Tanner Engstron, who were under the impression at the end 106 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: of the season that Aaron Glenn would be bringing them 107 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: back for their same roles In twenty twenty six, According 108 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: to sources, various coaches were told at the end of 109 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: the season that they were free to explore other opportunities, 110 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 1: though many still felt they were safe as of last 111 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: week based on conversation. 112 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 2: They'd had with Aaron Glenn. 113 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: At some point in the last week or so, multiple 114 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: sources said they felt Glenn change course on his original 115 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: plan in the off season. At the end of the week, 116 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: various position coaches were fired, and at least a few 117 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: of them were surprised at that happening. Conversations also started 118 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: about Engstrand having his role adjusted and giving up play 119 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: calling so that Glenn could bring in a veteran voice 120 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 1: to lead the offensive operation. So he wasn't being fired 121 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: he would have remained as the offensive coordinator technically. Now, 122 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: after some back and forth and with the team openly 123 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: pursuing his replacement, Frank Reich at the top of their list, 124 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: as Connor Hughes reported, Angstrand and the Jets have parted ways, 125 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: So now the Jets have to start their search for 126 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. On January twenty seventh, this couple of 127 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: days ago, three plus weeks after the season ended, and 128 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: will have to satisfy the Rooney rule at least two 129 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: in person interviews with minorities in order to fill the position. 130 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: By the way, Glenn still hasn't hired his new defensive coordinator, 131 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: who actually did just yesterday yet either, as the approach 132 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: to that position changed in recent days too, with Glenn 133 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: being more open to the idea of calling plays himself 134 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: on defense. According to sources, it's like all of this 135 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: could have been done right after the season, when you 136 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: would have had a bevy of candidates available who didn't 137 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: go elsewhere. I mean, who knows if they would have 138 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: taken the job. But it's almost like he took time 139 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: off after the season and then he opened up his 140 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: laptop again and was like, oh, we were terrible last year. 141 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: I got to make some moves here and everybody's gone, 142 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't get it. 143 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: It's I mean, look, and I don't know how much 144 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: Woody Johnson as far as the ownership in front office 145 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: plays a role in all of it. But I mean, 146 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: we always have used the word dysfunction, at least LeVar has, 147 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: and it's true. I mean there's multiple organizations that fall 148 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: in that category. We've talked about two of them so 149 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: far today. But clearly this is one of them, and 150 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: it's one of what you go Not only did he 151 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: seem overwhelmed during the season for this opportunity, he seems 152 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: overwhelmed for the opportunity of just now trying to hire 153 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: guys that he feel liked and help him win or 154 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: at least keep his job. I mean, think about it. 155 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: For a first time head coaches, you know, to me, 156 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: the most important decisions you make or how you build 157 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: out your coordinators and your staff, like right from the gate, 158 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: right out of the jump, right out the gate. You've 159 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: got to be able to have a staff that can 160 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: go in you can delegate to because there's to be 161 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: a ton on your plate as a head coach of 162 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: a team, especially a first time head coach, and you've 163 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: got to be able to delegate. You've got to be 164 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: able to trust those guys can go out there. They 165 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: can help echo the sentiment that you want, the scheme 166 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: that you want teaching, the technique fundamental that you want. 167 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: But handle all of that. There's just too much on 168 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: your plate. And the fact that he after one year 169 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: as a first time head coach now has to basically 170 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: start over again with his entire staff because they've fired 171 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: so many coaches, and they've obviously botched how they've done this. 172 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: It's got to be an incredibly difficult process. And also 173 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: you've probably lost trust in a coaching community that has 174 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: a lot of recycling that goes on. And you can 175 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: imagine that any of those guys who got the job 176 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: were hired for him, they're now moving on saying like, dude, 177 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: you don't want to go there, Like he's gonna be 178 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 3: fired after a year. It's a mess. You know, you 179 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: really need a job like good luck, but it's it's 180 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: going to be a state on your resume. I mean, 181 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: that's the reputation that they're going to have now. And 182 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 3: so it's gonna be incredibly difficult finding a staff or 183 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: putting together a staff that's going to be anywhere close 184 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: to the optimism that he had coming in year one. 185 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: And that's why I was thinking about this over the 186 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: weekend and watching these you know, we came in on 187 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: Monday and we're talking about you know, Seahawks, Patriots, super Bowl. 188 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: You know who's this a bad look for. It's a 189 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: bad look for the Titans. They let Mike Frable go, 190 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: he didn't want to leave, so on and so forth. Dude, 191 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: if you're the Jets and you're looking around and I'm 192 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: thinking about this watching Seattle win the NFC Championship, and 193 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're a Jets fan and you're watching the 194 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: Patriots after being awful and losing the best coach of 195 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: all time, the best quarterback of all time, and going 196 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: through a rebuild, drafting a guy, and they're already back 197 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: in the super Bowl, and the Seahawks are in a 198 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: super Bowl with Sam Arnold, the guy that you drafted 199 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: and couldn't make it work with. 200 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: Like, if I'm the Jets, I'm looking at. 201 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: This going and yet here we are firing six seven 202 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: assistant coaches in late January and still having no plan 203 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: for what we're doing on when. 204 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: It comes to that part of our team. It just 205 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: I don't know how. 206 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: Some franchises in the NFL, unless this is all about 207 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: just what hey, if you're making money, who cares. 208 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: I don't know how. If you're Woody. 209 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: Johnson, if you're the Browns, you're not looking at some 210 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: of these other organizations that seemingly are able to figure 211 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: it out even after they have a downturn and saying 212 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: to yourself, Yeah, why can't we have that why can't 213 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: we do that Seattle, Like there's a thought that Seattle 214 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: was going to be a full blown rebuild. They got 215 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: rid of their coach, they got rid of their longtime quarterback, 216 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: and they just continued to draft. Well, they signed Sam Darnold. 217 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: There was a lot of people thought it was a 218 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: mistake to get rid of Gino Smith. Christ I even 219 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: picked Seattle to finish last in the division. 220 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 2: Not proud of it. 221 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: All right, that was a bad, bad pick and I 222 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: will wear that. And somehow they figured it out. And 223 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: the Jets are still kind of, you know, in the 224 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: mud looking around, going yeah, we were not really sure 225 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: what to do. 226 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: Hey, some of us had them winning the division. Excuse me, 227 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: not not the Seahawks, but the Cardinals in that one. 228 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 2: So there you go, Yeah, who was that? 229 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about me? 230 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so who was that? 231 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: By the way, No, that's you know, but he likes 232 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: to uh, you know, we'll skip past all the. 233 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: Well, you can't bloviate about teams that you feel that 234 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: highly about the beginning of the season and then act 235 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: like you want a part of You can't be a 236 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 3: part of that downfall. 237 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: So hey, by the way, speaking of the Cardinals. Did 238 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: you see the mysterious Diana Rossini tweet from a short 239 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: time ago, Diana Rossini tweeted the following quote. Candidates up 240 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: for either the Arizona or Raiders head coaching jobs were 241 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: informed that there's still one more interview to be conducted 242 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: with another candidate. Per sources, who's the mystery candidate, Kurt Signetti? 243 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: Who do you think the mystery candidate is that they've 244 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: still got to talk to? 245 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 3: Because I have no idea wondering, like if you had 246 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,359 Speaker 3: to guess why those two teams are those two organizations 247 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 3: because everyone Here's the thing that's interesting about a lot 248 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: of the head coaches who are up for different jobs 249 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 3: or various jobs. Everyone would pitch Las Vegas. They'd say, well, 250 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: they've got the number one overall pick, so they get Mendoza. 251 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, hold on for a second, Like 252 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: that's maybe the only attractive thing that that Las Vegas 253 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: has going for it. I mean, that roster needs completely rebuilt. 254 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: There's a lot of concern over the ownership and how 255 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: and you know, who's kind of pulling the strings there 256 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: and how that's ultimately working out, and you know, are 257 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: you gonna be the guy or is it going to 258 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: be Spytek who's Tom Brady's guy. Like there's a lot 259 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 3: of concern over have that things being run and obviously 260 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: the Cardinals have their own issues, but it is interesting, 261 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: but these two jobs are still open and everyone seems 262 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: to keep trying to convincement. The Raiders is like the 263 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: job that Candy should want to look at. 264 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: And by the way, are we sure that Las Vegas 265 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: is the best place for Fernando Mendoza? Are we sure 266 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: that's a good place for him? 267 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: Like you think he's gonna get like turnout or something. 268 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: And I mean it's just, you know, he seems like 269 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: a pretty pure guy, Like I just I feel like 270 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: he'll be there, all right. 271 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: Well, I'm just wondering if you. 272 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: Know, in fact, I would make the case that, like 273 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: there's no better players suited to be there than him. 274 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: All right, but like, you know, do you really want 275 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: that influence? Like it's it's week five. All of a sudden, 276 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: a story comes out that Fernando Mendoza was you know, 277 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: in a suite at the Luxe or with the Blue 278 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: Man group, a couple of hookers and a coffee table 279 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: full of drugs, Like it just feels like that's not 280 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: the place for him, Like he needs to go someplace 281 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: like DoD the You talk. 282 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: It's incredibly reckless that you were attributing him him growing 283 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: up in South Florida Miami to all of a sudden 284 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: there's been drug using. 285 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 5: No. 286 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: I just think there's that there's a lot of suckubisses 287 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: out there that they want to latch on and and 288 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,239 Speaker 1: be a bad influence. 289 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: And you don't think they were in Bloomington. I mean, 290 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: come on, there's a bunch of who's. 291 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I didn't know that that was the 292 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: Las Vegas of Indiana. 293 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: I had no idea. I wasn't I wasn't aware of that. 294 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: But I could see a somewhere in Indiana. I think, do 295 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 3: they I don't know. Maybe they do. They do. I'm 296 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: positive they do in the northern part of the state. 297 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: I believe there's one like right outside of Gary, Indiana. 298 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: I think it's a little horseshoe, but there Gary. I 299 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: believe there's some throughout too. 300 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: Gary, Indiana. 301 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: That was that was another place the Bears threatened to 302 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: move to if they didn't get a new stadium. 303 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: And so what did they do? 304 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: Is that still off the table. I don't know. 305 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: I mean listening to Indiana's pushing hard for him. 306 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: They would an here's the problem for Kevin Warren. You 307 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 3: can't keep using it as leverage if you're not actually 308 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: gonna do it. At some point, I bet the state 309 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: of Indiana gives them a sweetheart deal where it might 310 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: be too hard to turn down, and there we go. 311 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: Your your beloved Chicago Bears end up playing their home 312 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: games in the state of Indiana. 313 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: That was one of Mike North's great radio bits when 314 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: he was on the Score in Chicago back in the day. 315 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: They were threatening to go to Gary, Indiana if they 316 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: didn't get a new stadium on the Lake Front, And 317 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: so the Bears caved and just built some UFO in 318 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: the middle of the old Soldier Field. And so Mike 319 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: North showed up to Gary, Indiana in a gas mask 320 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: trying to get across the state Lions. Apparently it smells 321 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: in Gary, Indiana. There's like some some odor that's going 322 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: on there. 323 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: There's a lot going on. There's a lot. I was 324 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: just going to say, By the way, if you truly 325 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 3: are a man that loves Chicago, you would have taken 326 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: a trip somehow working east to west. You had driven 327 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: through Gary, Indiana. But that's how I know you're just 328 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: one of those plans, got it? Not a true Chicago, 329 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: You are not a true Changa. 330 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: Also with the I you know that after I heard 331 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: Mike North showed up with a gas mask on, I 332 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: didn't really want to visit that place. You know, I've 333 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: been through enough, you know, smelly parts of southern California. 334 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: Do not want to not want to take part in that. 335 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: But hey, you know what, though, maybe they need some 336 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: dudewivees because you've ever tried to wipe with a piece 337 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: of dry toilet paper and water? 338 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: Is this as good as it gets? 339 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: Well, it's not switched to life changing wet extra large 340 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: flushable dude wipes because wetter just cleans better. Available to 341 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: Amazon and at major retailers nationwide, dude wipes best clean 342 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: pants down you know. Also, can I just say this 343 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: about the Kurtz Signetti. I was joking when I said that, 344 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: has nobody reached out to the guy, as nobody touched 345 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: bases with him just to gauge his interest, Like, hey man, 346 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: would you be up for it? 347 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: Even if he says no? 348 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: Like, wouldn't you at least want to just like have 349 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: him tell you no before before you move on with 350 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: your search in the NFL. 351 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: I keep trying to explain to people when you when 352 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: you're an NFL organization or an NFL owner, you know 353 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 3: you should you should be looking at every potential candidate 354 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 3: and even someone who maybe not at your level but 355 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 3: has succeeded and turned things around. And if you're the 356 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 3: Cardinals and you're the Raiders, I'm sure having a conversation 357 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: and an interview with him would help give you a 358 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: little bit more of a sense of what he's done 359 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: to turn things around, like what his formula or recipe is, 360 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 3: and maybe that can help you out. Like this, it's 361 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 3: like a free shot and free opportunity of doing it. 362 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: And you might say, well, they could probably go down 363 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 3: to Bloomington if they wanted to, and you know, watch 364 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: him practice and watch how he does things and try 365 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: to implement those things if they want. Yeah, but it's 366 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: it's a little different when he's actually interviewing for the job, 367 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 3: because there is that potential thought like he wouldn't go 368 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: do the interview if he wasn't giving it some consideration, right, Yeah, 369 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 3: So like you got to take that into you know, 370 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: into consideration of saying like he probably is going to 371 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: be a little bit more you know, forthcoming with with 372 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 3: some of the things that he would implement or do 373 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: or how he sees it. I think that'd be beneficial 374 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: for any organization. We said this with Belichick and the Falcons, 375 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 3: which obviously they moved on for Maheem Morris after what 376 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 3: two years. Yeah, so it's like, I don't know why, 377 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 3: if you're the Bills, you wouldn't have done that. You know. Again, 378 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: they just kind of ended up going Joe Brady or 379 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns. I'm not sure if you know he 380 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: even got contacted by the Browns, but it would make sense, 381 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: despite the history of college coaches at the NFL level, 382 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: to at least talk to the guy or see if 383 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: he's interested, or see if he can get something that 384 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: can help you turn around your organization like he's turned 385 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: around Indiana. Yeah. 386 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: Well, look, they're not good. That's why they wouldn't make 387 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: that call. 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At DraftKings, 426 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: the crown is yours. So Deion Sanders, coach Prime's putting 427 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: his foot down, all right, Enough's enough. He's announced some fines, 428 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: some stiff penalties at the Colorado football program. This according 429 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: to a report that came out. Here's the fine system 430 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: that is set up there at Colorado. Five hundred dollars 431 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 1: for being late to practice. Okay, twenty five hundred dollars 432 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: for not showing. 433 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: Up at all. 434 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: Two thousand dollars for being a no show to a 435 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: meeting or film session, four hundred dollars for being late 436 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: to that, fifteen hundred dollars for not showing up to 437 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: strength and conditioning, a one thousand dollars fine for being 438 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: late to treatment or fifteen hundred dollars for a no 439 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: show to treatment, up to a twenty five hundred dollars 440 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: fine for a violation of team rules, and up to 441 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: a five thousand dollars fine for public or social media misconduct. 442 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: Sanders is also banned profanity outside of the meeting room 443 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: and especially in the dining area, because quote, we're not 444 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: the only ones in the cafeteria. You need to be respectful. 445 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: In addition, Sanders stress the importance of being respectful to women. 446 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: The fines are not connected to name, image and likeness 447 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: licensing agreements and not related to on field performance. They 448 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: are strictly for violating team rules, which is permissible according 449 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: to the school. One of the biggest forbidden items was 450 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: directed at transfers that t shirts, sweatshirts, or any other 451 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: gear of their form team you cannot wear, and he 452 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: went on to say as much to those players. 453 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 8: Don't wear your old team's gear in this facility. That's disrespectful. 454 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 3: That would be like your lady that you. 455 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 8: Have currently wearing her ex stuff. How you feel about that? 456 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 8: She said, I'll be able to shirt own it has 457 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 8: legs tag while you taking in, feeding in and moving. 458 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 8: That's how I feel about that. When I said, you 459 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 8: come into the kfteria, you eat high food, put your 460 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 8: last teams on. Obviously if you want to stay that 461 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 8: you should have stayed. 462 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: Sush, Well, you better not message. Let me actually present 463 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: it in a different way, because even though I do 464 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: feel like it's wrong and it's disrespectful, I'm also not 465 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 3: ignorant to the fact that there's some kids who wear 466 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: a lot of issue gear because that's all they got, right. 467 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: I had a lot of teammates who didn't necessarily come 468 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 3: from a very great background, so they didn't have much, 469 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 3: and what they wore oftentimes was what was issued to 470 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 3: them by that school. And so let me make a 471 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: different little spin on that. It's not that this girl 472 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: or this boo is wearing the ex boyfriend surely says 473 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 3: his name on it. It might be the stuff that 474 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 3: he bought her, because that might be all she has. 475 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 3: So I look at it a little bit different that case, 476 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 3: where like he should know as well as anyone else 477 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: that they like obviously they wear something else if they 478 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 3: had it. I mean, this comes off and I'm not 479 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 3: saying that there's not other schools that don't have clauses 480 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 3: within their agreements, and it could even be nil agreements, 481 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 3: but this comes off as somewhat odd that it becomes public. 482 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: I mean, in most cases, what usually happens is if 483 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: you have certain clauses that if you act a certain way, 484 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: it could be a conduct policy, or you do certain 485 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: things you know you might not be you know, able 486 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 3: to get the funds that were originally contracted out you, 487 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: but not necessarily fine, meaning like you're getting money taken 488 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: out of however you're paid, whether it's weekly, bi weekly, monthly, however, 489 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 3: that's it's structure you're set up, you know now where 490 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 3: you're seeing that deduction out of your paycheck. So that's 491 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: a it's a little bit different. Or maybe they guarantee 492 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: would be voided in something or whatever the case would be. 493 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: So this is all and good, but if someone ever 494 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 3: racked up enough fines, I'm sure they would challenge it. 495 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: And given that there's no collective bargaining agreement. They probably 496 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 3: have a decent chance of winning this because most likely 497 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 3: some would try to say, hey, you're treating them like 498 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 3: an employee, but you don't want to call them an employee. Well, 499 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: then you can't institute this sort of agreement. That would 500 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 3: that would be my guess. But it also this also 501 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: comes off as it like to me, is all right, 502 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: are these the issues you're dealing with? Yeah? Is that? 503 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 3: Is that why you need to make this publicly known 504 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: out there that like all these players and everyone on 505 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 3: the outside is going to know that your players are 506 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: object to these fines because it's happening in your program. 507 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 3: Like I like there's one thing about the call about 508 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 3: a program that because I've enjoyed everything that Dion's done 509 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 3: to revamp it. But sometimes you don't need to make everything, 510 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: you know, transparent for all to see. Like sometimes it's 511 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 3: okay to keep some stuff in house. And this is 512 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: one where it looks like there's a lot of a 513 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 3: lot of trouble apparently going on there. If these are 514 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 3: the things that get highlighted, because clearly you must be 515 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 3: dealing with them, otherwise it would become a story. 516 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: It just it feels like and we talked about this 517 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: a few weeks back. I think that the tone surrounding 518 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: the program is completely changed. 519 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: And I know that. Look, Travis Hunter was there, his 520 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: son was there. There was a lot of buzz. I mean, 521 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: at one point I thought you went to school there. 522 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. 523 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: You guys were there so often, like I thought you 524 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: and Coela were taking classes there in Boulder with how 525 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: often you guys were there doing games. 526 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 3: By the way, Happy birthday to Dave Couello. 527 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 2: Is it his birthday? 528 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: I believe it was his birthday? I think yesterday? No kidding, Yeah, 529 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: how about that Big Dave? 530 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Big Dave who I thought was it at Super 531 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: Bowl New Orleans outside the hotel last year? And I 532 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: went up and gave gave him a big hug. Turned 533 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: out it was not him, So that was fun. That 534 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: was a nice, nice little meeting. And Scott Shapira, our boss, 535 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: looked at me and said, did you think that was 536 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: Dave Coelo? And I was like, it wasn't He said no, 537 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: I thought the same thing, but when he got closer 538 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: it wasn't him. I was like, oh, that's why the 539 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: guy gave me. 540 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 3: A weird look. 541 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: Looked just like Dave Coello had, so I completely butchered that. 542 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: But happy birthday to that guy as well too. The 543 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: point is like, it just seems like the whole conversation 544 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: surrounding the program is completely changed. And look, I know 545 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: that you lose those two players. You know that that's 546 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: a lot to overcome, but other programs have lost really 547 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: good players and still continued, you know, the train kept moving, 548 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: and it just feels like maybe the momentum or whatever. 549 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 2: They built has sort of died down a little bit. 550 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: And he went through his medical stuff, which is you know, 551 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: probably doesn't get brought up enough, which is all serious, 552 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: and he was really going through it last year. 553 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: But it just doesn't feel like the same. 554 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: Vibe surrounding the program that there was, you know, a 555 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: year and a half two years ago, when. 556 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: They were really rolling and they may not have been a. 557 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: National title contender, but it felt like there was growth 558 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: and they were developing and turning into something to where 559 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: they were a respected program. Again, doesn't feel like that. 560 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 3: Well, I would say this, there's excitement, you know, That's 561 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: what it was. There was hope, and there's excitement. In 562 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: particular year one, we were there for we saw kind 563 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 3: of how they were able to, you know, basically beat 564 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 3: TCU and what was you know, essentially a shootout, and 565 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 3: even past that, like beat you know, Nebraska who came 566 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: into their house, and I think we'd all agree Nebraska 567 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 3: in a better is in a better spot than where 568 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: Colorado was at this point point. But you know, they 569 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 3: beat some legit programs kind of hung in there. It 570 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: wasn't until they played sc and that's where the wheels 571 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: started to fall off. And even the following year with 572 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 3: miche Door and Travis and some of other receivers too 573 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: that had played a role, it felt like there was excitement, 574 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: there was hope. The problem is is I never felt 575 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 3: like they really build a foundation. And it's one of 576 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 3: the issues that I think. I think a lot of 577 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 3: coaches who have to go to the transfer portal time 578 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: and time and time again are always going to have 579 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: that issue. They're always going to have a culture issue, 580 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 3: an environment issue, and a hard time building the foundation 581 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: because you were bringing in guys who they are there 582 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 3: for two reasons, to get paid more than whatever they're 583 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: getting paid before or place they can get paid, and 584 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 3: if you don't have the money to pay them, they're 585 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 3: going to move on to somewhere else. And so if 586 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: you don't have enough substance in Colorado or at Boulder, 587 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 3: and that's the place I took a visit at. I 588 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: loved it there. I thought it was awesome. To me, 589 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: it just ends up being not the right fit. But 590 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: you know, they have a lot of things that I 591 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 3: think they can offer young people, and aside from just 592 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: you know, making money and being a part of a 593 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: staff as coach prime a lot of other good coaches, 594 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 3: But if they can't find more stability in coaching through 595 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 3: high school kids and building on that side, like you've 596 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: got to have a blend. Like to me, at this 597 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: point in time, it's ten years what four years into 598 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 3: it now, right, And if you look at how you 599 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: shouldn't have constructed a roster now. You should be having 600 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: kids that you would recruit out of high school who 601 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 3: should be seniors that you feel really really confident taking 602 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: over and flourishing. Like that should be at least half 603 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: your roster at this point. And the problem is is 604 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: I feel like they're oftentimes going back to the portal 605 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: to keep looking for starters. That's that's not a sustaining model. 606 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 3: You know, you look at even Indiana, everyone wants to 607 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 3: make a big deal about their transfer. Well they had 608 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: a coach who came from JMU who brought a lot 609 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 3: of those guys with them. Well, now once those guys 610 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 3: have exhausted their eligibility, yeah, they'll go to the portal 611 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 3: sum but they're also going to be getting a much 612 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: better high school recruiting class. Or they'll find other kids 613 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: that they still have a number of years of eligibility left, 614 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 3: so they get them in the program, then they keep them. 615 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 3: You know, it's hard when you're trying to get guys 616 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 3: who are coming in with a year left or two 617 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 3: years left. They're just trying to prove themselves because especially 618 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: when things don't go right, those guys oftentimes have no 619 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 3: equity built within the program. So when you talk about 620 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: this fine system, like why do you need it? Probably 621 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: because there's a lot of guys who really just came 622 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: there for the money, or came there in a place 623 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 3: so they can make some money. So it's all about money. 624 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: So you got to even make the punishment about money. 625 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: I mean, before it was about money, like they used 626 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 3: to have other ways of getting around it, Like you 627 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 3: used to get used to have to come in for 628 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: five am workouts, you know, every single day, like you 629 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: didn't get the opportunity to come in a little bit 630 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: later or do it after, you know, in between classes 631 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: or practice or what have you, or all of a 632 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 3: sudden when you wouldn't schedule different courses, you wouldn't get 633 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: the preferential courses. You know, they'd make it harder on 634 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: you in different ways. And that was enough sometimes to 635 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: make guys transfer and make gays just quit the team altogether. 636 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: And that that was real, Like that was back then. 637 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 3: So they don't have to necessarily do what they're doing. 638 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: But I think it also tells you where the you know, 639 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 3: college football is in this day and age. It's all 640 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 3: about money. It's all about being more of a professional model, 641 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 3: even if the schools aren't willing to admit that that's 642 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: what they are. They are employees essentially, are the schools. 643 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: Did you ever get fined at Notre Dame? What was 644 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: the punishment you got? 645 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 3: No? No, no, no. The only thing I ever ever 646 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 3: had an issue with was I went to meet with 647 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 3: a professor and I had parked in a spot where 648 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 3: he told me to park, where I was blocking in 649 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 3: a car, and so as I went in. We were 650 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: probably in the meeting for like twenty minutes, maybe twenty 651 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: five minutes, and the secretary had run in and she said, hey, 652 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: your car is getting towed. And the professor walked out 653 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 3: with me and he said, hey, I'm so sorry, can 654 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: you please put it down? I you know, he goes 655 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 3: I told him to park there, and he's like, well, look, 656 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to do my job. It's and you 657 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 3: know the rule if it's up off the ground, you 658 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: got to be you have to show out some cash. 659 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: And I'd been a college kid, I didn't have much 660 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 3: money on me. I think he was asked for like 661 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 3: a hundred bucks, so the professor gave him one hundred dollars. Well, 662 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 3: things are so strict and notre dame in that regard. 663 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 3: By the time I, you know, finished the meeting with him, 664 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: and I ended up going to you know, you know, 665 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 3: one or two other classes before we had practiced that day. 666 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 3: I get called in as soon as I get out 667 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: of my last class to the coach's office and Charlie 668 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: White says like, hey, look like I you know, I 669 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: heard what happened. I'm like, what are you talking about 670 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: He's like, you know this whole you know, you're car 671 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: getting tone and all stuff. I said, well, didn't get towed, 672 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 3: I said the professor. You know, I end up having 673 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 3: to you know, pay for whatever because he told me 674 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: to park there. He goes, no, no, no, no, he goes, 675 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 3: you're ineligible. He's like, that's viewed as a gift. He's like, 676 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 3: so you have to make a donation. And I forget 677 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 3: the formula. I think you had to make a donation 678 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 3: for like double whatever the amount was, to a nonprofit 679 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 3: in order to become eligible again. So I had to donate, 680 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 3: like it was like two D three hundred bucks, which 681 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: I donated to Hanna and Friends, which was Charlie's Charlie 682 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 3: Weiss's foundation for his daughter. And then that was like 683 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 3: the threshold I whatever, I need to meet in order 684 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 3: to be able to go to practice that day. So 685 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 3: that was like the only trouble that I'd really gotten 686 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 3: in in regards to like what could be viewed as 687 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 3: even a potential fine. 688 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you should have just let it get towed 689 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: if you're going to do that, I mean, look at that. 690 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 3: Point, well yeah, of course, but I wasn't aware of 691 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 3: how that really even worked. And again I didn't. I 692 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 3: kind of felt like, you know, they should be blaming 693 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 3: me for this. It wasn't like how was just doing 694 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: what I was told to do. 695 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. 696 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: Well things have changed now nowadays you would just owe 697 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: the even own the tow truck company like that would 698 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: just be yours, like you. 699 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 3: Know, you do it, you do an nil deal. So 700 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: next thing, you know, you'd be like taking pictures with 701 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: the tow truck driver and he'd be posting and advertising 702 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 3: the rights to do and then he'd you know, put 703 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: your card down and then you basically, honestly to crumbies 704 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: probably do that in college towns. 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Yeah, we're don't have much of an 731 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: indication at this point. 732 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, very bag. 733 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: He's turned his phone off. 734 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: His phone is off. I don't buy that for a second, 735 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: but a lot of the details are a little sketchy. 736 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: But listen, we'll, you know, maybe we'll interrogate him a 737 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: little bit. And he didn't do his whereabouts coming up 738 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow. 739 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 3: Pull for all we know. 740 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 5: Uh. 741 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 2: By the way, hey, we like to do this every 742 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 2: single week on this show. We'd like to hand out 743 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 2: an award. 744 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: It's our Express Pros Pro of the Week and the 745 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: Pro of the Week this week goes to. 746 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 5: JASN now comes into the backfield. Sam out of the shotgun, looks, steps, 747 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 5: throws back. 748 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: Harder touch down. 749 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 4: Hawks say, on the left side, wide open, and you'll 750 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 4: love to see defensive back stop and look at each 751 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 4: other and say, who the hell was supposed to cover 752 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 4: you if he was wide open? From fourteen now and 753 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 4: the Seahawks retake the lead sixteen thirteen. 754 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 5: A third down and three at the Rams thirteen the shotgun. 755 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 5: Here comes the four man Rams rush. Sam steps up, 756 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 5: goes back inside, come. 757 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 4: Make the catch, touchdown, say Hawks, the former Ram Super 758 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 4: Bowl MVP, now the Seahawks, and he has another big 759 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 4: touch thirteen yards and a touchdown. 760 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 5: This is a guy who's used to making big plays 761 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 5: at the. 762 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 4: Biggest moments, and there's none bigger than tonight the NFC Championship. 763 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 4: Seahawks now lead again by. 764 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: Ten Seahawks Radio Network on the calls. That is your 765 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: Express pros Pro of the Week going to Sam Darnold 766 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 1: facing a peak season looking for a new team member. 767 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: Workforce solutions from Express Employment Professionals make hiring easier. Visit 768 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: expresspros dot com to find an office and see how 769 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: Express can help you hire smarter and faster. Sam Darnold 770 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: three hundred and forty six yards in the air, three touchdowns, 771 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: No picks your Express pros Pro the Week and man 772 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 1: Oman It probably should go to the team doctor who 773 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: must have used an elephant gun to inject toward all 774 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: into his oblique to get him out there and just 775 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: sling it in the NFC title game. 776 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 3: Didn't really know how much gamesmanship played a role in that. 777 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 3: There's a portion of me that and we talked about 778 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 3: this too, like I would have played it up. I 779 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 3: would have made it seem like an off in injury 780 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 3: where there's a little indecision of whether or not he 781 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 3: would play force the Rams potentially to have to, you know, 782 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 3: think about who they would face, whether it be what Jolen, Milro, 783 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 3: Drew Locke, whatever. But that was, you know, to me, 784 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 3: one of the mysteries going into the game clearly looked fine. 785 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think he was dealing with issues 786 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 3: that were any greater than I guess you know what 787 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 3: we thought or did impact this game. I should say 788 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 3: so again two weeks to prepare for that. I think 789 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 3: the real concern isn't so much Sam Darnald for the Seahawks. 790 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 3: More Drake May. There's some concerns about his shoulder and 791 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 3: his health going into the Super Bowl. 792 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, doctor Chow. 793 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: David Chow pointed it out that he thinks Donald her 794 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: or not, Donald Drake May hurt himself in the AFC 795 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: title Game. And there's a play where he went down, 796 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 1: but it's so the footage I saw was so snowy 797 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: you couldn't tell what was actually happening. But it looked 798 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: like he grabbed his shoulder and he looked like he 799 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: was affected following that. And had they practiced yesterday, he 800 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: would have been limited. All right, So had they practiced yesterday, 801 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: Drake May would have been limited as they head into 802 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. 803 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,439 Speaker 3: So now what's interesting about that? As I did hear 804 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 3: from some critics that said, well, his shoulder didn't seem 805 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 3: hurt in the first half. 806 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, all right. 807 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 3: That was the clap back at that report that, Yeah, Yeah, 808 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 3: that's It's funny. 809 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: You know the report that I've seen, or some of 810 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: the the outrage I've seen, which I didn't actually believe 811 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: that this was true. There really were people like Prisco 812 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: who did not want that game played in those conditions. 813 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: I think Mike Florio even pointed out, you know, should 814 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: the conference championship games be played on a neutral site? 815 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 3: Jesus? 816 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 2: What? What what are we doing? 817 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 3: Has everyone just gotten sought it? I mean, can we 818 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 3: just admit it? I mean, I'll say this like, I'm 819 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 3: not as you know, tough as my dad was, the 820 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 3: stuff they had to deal with. I think we're all 821 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 3: just getting soft. 822 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: I just all right, Like so now those who got 823 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: to be played on a neutral so okay, fair enough, 824 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: all right, let's you know what, everybody just playing the 825 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 1: same place. 826 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 2: And just rent it out, like just rent it out 827 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 2: or share stadium. 828 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 3: Vegas, Yeah, share stadiums. We will do Vegas, Miami will 829 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 3: alternate east coast west coast over the year. You know, 830 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 3: those seem to make everyone happy. Everyone seems to love 831 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 3: those for Super Bowl, So at least we can do that. 832 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 3: Here's why I don't understand about this, Like what was like, 833 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 3: what were they upset about the outcome. I mean, at 834 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 3: the end of the day, the team that was favored one, 835 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 3: you know, you're not seeing a backup go on and 836 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 3: play for the Super Bowl, which I know that. Look 837 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 3: they won one with Foles and Eagles, but again, I 838 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 3: just I don't understand what the issue is with it. 839 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: And it's not like there's not ugly football all the 840 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: time in perfect conditions. 841 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that they watched the regular season, like. 842 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: Dude, like some of these teams are terrible and it's 843 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: seventy five out like who cares? 844 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 2: Don't get it.