WEBVTT - #205 - Lil Zay Osama 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:05.720 Rolling Boulet Cap Podcast special guests in here from Chicago. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:10.160 Your new project is dropped. So trench Baby three, trench 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:13.520 Baby three little is in the building. Man, Well, so welcome, welcome? 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:15.480 Is this a new is this a relatively new chain? 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:18.360 The trench Baby chain? I probably got this like a 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.520 year ago. Not like it's a serious piece of ice 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.400 right there, the baby with the ski mask and the 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.640 miss and the matching ring. That's what's that. I've never 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:31.560 seen the ring chain or something. Oh, that's that's what 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:38.120 some have been lying, oh some at some Okay, how 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.120 did you get your name? Man? Let's get the mic 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:43.920 raight if you can move the mic in front of you. Perfect. Yeah. 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:48.320 First at first they was calling me like zays. You know, Lise, 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.480 you know me being in the streets for a long time, 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:55.400 you know it just start oh some oh something. I 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:59.440 guess it was off the street ship, you know. Yeah. Uh, 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:04.520 how long has it been since you decided to fully 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.760 focus on music and get out of the streets fully 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:09.240 because a lot of people do the one foot in, 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.240 one foot out shit real? Since I got out of jail, 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:13.600 because you know, I wouldn't did juvenile life. And then 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:17.440 when I got out, you feel me. It's just like, yeah, 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.720 I gotta focus on my craft, you know, I gotta 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:22.360 get my people out of the hood. I gotta get 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.119 myself together. And that's really the only lane I knew. 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.399 You know, I wouldn't I know how to adapt to 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.640 anything like hustling, fraud, whatever, you know what I'm saying. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.800 But like, that wasn't what I wanted to do. You 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:38.280 know what I'm saying. The music what I wanted to do. So, Yop, 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.120 you can't open the door. You go in there. You 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:48.480 want a water boom, Gotta hydrate, gotta get the water man. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.840 So you said that, Uh you obviously you did some 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.440 time in juvenile What time did you get locked up? 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:59.280 You're sixteen when I was fifteen? And then when did 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:03.720 you get out when I was? Oh I was I 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.800 was nineteen, So you did four years in between juvie. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.359 So when you got arrested, did you go from juvenile 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.880 hall to like the adult shit? Nah? I went from 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.840 the AUDI Home, which is a juvenile correctional center, and 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.200 then I went from the AUDI Home and got sentenced, 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.400 and then I went to DC Department of Correction, Love DC. 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.840 You can't be over twenty one and no got you. 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:32.240 So you ended up doing time as a juvenile and 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:35.600 then all and then moving on to the actual like 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:37.679 being in jail with like people who are adults and shit. 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.600 So that was like something that kind of shook you up, obviously. No, 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.280 hell no, I was already used to it. You know. 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.600 I was in the streets. I was going to do 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.639 thirty days, then get out, Go do sixty days, then 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:53.560 get out, go do two months, three four months, get out. 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.840 You feel me. I was always back and forth, locked up. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.320 When that real time came, it was like I was 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.880 already used to it for real. Damn, what was your charge? 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:09.840 I had aggravated discharge with a fight. I had an 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:14.600 arm robbery. I had a vehictor high jack. I had 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.160 a couple of a lot of ship, four years worth 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:21.880 of ship. Well you made it man out, you made 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:23.600 it out. You made it out from the other side. 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.320 I saw that. You said that back in the day, 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.400 used to rob all the cameraman in Chicago. Come on, man, 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:35.000 I don't do that. I had my little up. No, 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.360 I did my I did my little wrong ship. I 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:41.080 was gonna say, like, did you ever spend the block 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:42.760 on the cameraman where they ended up working with you 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.040 later on, because you know, there's there's only a few 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.440 cameramen I'm sure. I mean, I don't know. I don't 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.320 even for real, for real, I don't even remember all 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.440 the dumb ship I used to be on back when 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.480 I was on for Surety ship. But like I used 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.360 to be on some goofy ship like that. But I 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.440 don't remember exactly all the ones. You know, it probably 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.280 is because all the cameramans fucking me. You know, I 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.360 even I am today, you know, I overcame all that 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.600 just so a lot of the cameramens fuck with me. 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.320 It probably been one of the years I don't even 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.400 remember so long ago. It feels like a cameraman is 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:17.960 probably the easiest lit right I was, really I was. 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:19.640 It wasn't like I was doing it for the money. 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.560 I was really doing it to get my own camera 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.360 to shoot my own videos and have my my cameraman 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:28.320 shoot my videos. So you wouldjacked the nice camera, give 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.440 it to your cameraman, and it'd be like you got 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:34.359 new equipment, shoot my ship. That's not a bad I mean, listen, 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.840 that's not bad. At least you weren't like at least 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:38.720 there was some sort of purpose. You were doing it 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.839 to further your career thing I do. It's for a purpose, yeah, 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.680 and it ain't never for no reason. Trench Baby three, 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:46.800 you got some dope features on here. Icewarve was one 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:51.080 of my favorite artists is on there. I congrats to 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:55.039 him in the QC situation. Yeah, for obviously, Durk Herbo 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.880 for you, like this is technically is this your first project, 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.920 like as like under a major? No, hell no, I 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:08.599 did Hood Bible, I did Baby one, so this is okay? 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.960 So this this hood Bible. I did Hood Bible, I 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.320 did trench Baby one, Trench Baby two, and it's trench 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.200 Baby three. So folk mixtape since I've been under one? 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.760 So is this considered the tape for Ah's a mixtape? Okay? 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:25.520 These days I hate I hate the mixtape differentiate feel 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.960 like a bootleg. You know what I'm saying. But how 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.320 do you what's the album to the mixtape difference? Like 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.880 it feels like it's all the same nowadays. I don't 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:34.520 know that it is kind of the same. But I 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.880 don't like calling the mixtape because you feel like I'm 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.200 saying my ship bootleg or some ship. You know why. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:42.560 I like the call it of the project or album. 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.880 You know why the label, like because the label doesn't 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.400 count against your contract, so they love it when it's 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:53.479 called a mixtape. No, not necessarily. Most if you recoup, 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.680 you know, then that bitch go go or some ship, 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.320 and they gonna count that bitch as an album. They 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.640 have to. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna count that mo fuckers. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.640 So uh do you? Because I feel like your buzz 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:09.719 is like really catching fire. What do you think like 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.640 has been the difference in the last like twelve months 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.480 or so some sh it's really catching fire for you 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.279 in terms of just like was it things you were 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.599 doing differently? Was it a certain record that went crazy? 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:21.640 Like why do you think like you got the most 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:23.440 eyes on your light right now? I feel like the 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.120 momentum going crazy right now, you know what I'm saying. 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:30.320 Because my brother Smirk hopped up on the Fuck my Cubs, Yeah, 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.880 he hopped on that record, So a lot of more 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.840 people reaching out, you know what I'm saying, niggas I 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:39.240 hit seeing the message like hey, oh I ain't even 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.159 see this? What up? Like you know, like, eh, body, Yeah, 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:46.120 things falling in place since Bro hopped on the record. Yeah, 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.600 I feel like we always talk about how people get 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.520 the Drake stimulus package. There's like a such thing as 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:55.440 a Dirk stimulus package. Yea, so nowadays, bro my daughter, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:07:00.880 But Dirk gang like turning niggas could real round like 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.480 folks hop on the record. I mean, we talked about 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.560 that he had up the skull, which I feel like 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.240 really put him in a different space. Dirk hopped on 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.200 that motherfucker took him out of the Boston Richie. Dirk 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:16.119 hop on that blood golden and this ship He's stamp 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:20.960 ship for sure. For people who have never heard Fuck 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:27.720 my Cousin, Yeah, the song titles wild explain fuck my Cousin. 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.240 It was like I just couldn't sugarcoat it, you know, 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.720 that's what it was. You know, I got a lot 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.280 of cousins that's on the other side with the ops. 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.640 So if you have a family member who's on the 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.960 other side with the ops, fuck them. Hell yeah, fuck 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.000 them because they don't think they're saying about you. Fuck 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.960 you you op. You know, like of course it won't 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:51.080 like I ain't seen these niggas since I was a kid, 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.440 you know what I'm saying. But then my cousins, though 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.440 you feel me, So it really ain't no relationship that anyway. 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:58.600 You feel what I'm saying. It's just that we know 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:03.160 we cousins, you know, and it's up he on that side. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.640 I'm on this side and have been times out of 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.640 gave my cousin and passes like noah, folks, don't do that, 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.920 or I was gonna keep it moving or catch him. 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.720 He's so goofied out. He's such a fucking clown. Catch him, 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.000 smack him up, punch him up, put it on camera, 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.120 uploaded on the ground or something like. Just treat him 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:25.760 like a flat yeah, like ship like that. Like but here, Yeah, 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.480 my homie shot my cousin and miss up, I see 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.160 my cousin, Miss Up. Is there is there like a 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.960 family like okay, because you could be you could be 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.000 cousins with somebody and barely know them. Yeah for sure, Right, 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.319 that's that's that's normal. That's what it really is. Like 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.240 with the cousins that I'm in too with. You feel 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.439 what I'm saying, Like I norm I grew up with them, 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.240 But it's like, ain't no bond or no relationship. Yeah, 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:53.760 you know what I'm saying. For me to feel some 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.000 type of way you have a stronger bond with your 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.360 brothers that are yeah, my brothers and my sisters, Like 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.760 I got real actual cousin is that I know that 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.880 will never turn on me, never go fuck with the ops, 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.400 never do no out of order ship or cross me. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:11.280 You know, I got cousins like that. That's my real family, 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.640 right that you grew up with that you're super close 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.120 and I'm super super close with for sure. Damn does 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.760 the auntie ever call like your mom and be like hey, yeah, 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:21.920 And there been times like that in the past, Like 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.280 even one of my ops that's dead, like his daddy 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.800 is from well, my mama and my daddy and then 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.480 from where I grew up as a kid though right 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:33.839 then I moved from over there, but my mom and 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.360 them from over there. That's where they grew up at 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.599 all they life forty third state speaking, you know, Like 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.199 he came and talked to me like, yeah, y'all leave 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.640 that shit alone, y'all family woo, you know, but this 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.880 shit too deep, like bloodshit behind this shit already, so 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.840 motherfucker really can't take that shit back. I think that's 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:57.400 what civilians have a hard time wrapping their head around. 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.040 Why the psych who doesn't stop. And I think what 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:06.120 they don't understand is once blood is shed, it's like 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.560 almost like I'm not talking about your I'm not talking 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.920 about it. For the record, though, I won't make it clear. 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:12.839 I'm not talking about you or any situation you're I 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:16.959 just mean in terms of gang violence in general. Yeah, 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:21.959 it's just like, boy, you gotta understand, bro, if if 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.760 you kill me, I got kids, I got brothers, I 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.679 got cousins that I don't want to get to get back. Boy, 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.920 they ain't gonna play about me. They ain't gonna forget 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:35.679 about me. Boy, Right, It's gonna be generations and generations 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.880 of this ship. You feel me, This shit go on 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:43.400 and go on like generations for real, for real, It's 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.160 not possible. You took my fucker love one out this ship. 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.600 My fucker ready to man fuck ready to go all out. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:53.679 You know. Did you see, uh, recently twenty one Savage 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.240 spoke about like in Atlanta, obviously there's a lot of 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.760 gang or a lot of gun violence happening. Did you 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:00.480 see the twenty one Savage had said he just kind 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:01.679 of was trying to put a message out there to 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:03.839 everybody to like kind of, you know, try I think 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.720 I saw a postal. He was like, we we need 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.160 to do better, Yeah, do better, try to keep the peace. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.439 Like do you think like it would take somebody like 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.480 in that position to kind of like do the same 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:18.120 thing in Chicago? It doesn't matter, Like I mean, I 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:23.120 feel like, like I told you, it's like we I 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:27.000 know me personally, bro, we was in walls from generations 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:28.720 to go to my big homy and my old than 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.600 them homing and on was in you feel what I'm saying, 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.000 and the end it just it just kind of gets 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.000 passed on. So like that's that ship will never be 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.199 over with. I don't care who you is, bro, Like 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.959 that should never be over with. Niggas can't come to 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.040 agreement and come to each other and talk and be like, 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.679 let's squash this shit or leave it alone, or he 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:49.920 gonna be considered a whole He's gonna be considered a 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.599 bitch as nigga pussy a nigga. Niggas proud in the 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.240 way that it ain't gonna never It feels like pride 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.400 is probably the biggest thing standing in the way and 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.839 a lot of that shit right, yeah for sure. But 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.240 you know, like I told you, death too pride and death. 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.600 Niggas got locked up since the eighty years he told 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.520 and he's still out of jail. Niggas trying to kill 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:15.160 him like this. It's all types of situations, do you think, Like, 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:19.000 for someone like yourself that has found a way to 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:24.640 get out of that environment, it's like the only right 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.280 thing to do is to kind of get out of 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.199 Chicago and and and try like I told him in 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.319 La now, so you feel you think of someone like 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.000 Chief Keith. I don't think Chief Keep's been back for 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:34.439 I don't know how long, but you know, it feels 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.920 like he got about the way someone like God damn 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:41.480 snuck and never told nobody just out now. But for 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.320 the most part, I don't think you've been out there. 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.800 But hell yeah, Like it's better to just get away, 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:48.800 you know, it's better just get the fuck out the 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:52.240 city you already got, Like I'm just saying me, I 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.960 already got ops, hella ops. You feel what I'm saying. 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:00.240 And there's money and there's motherfucking fame. This ship bring 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.480 mot enemies and mold problems and bullshit. You feel what 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.960 I'm saying, So they just add on. So it's best 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:07.920 to just get the fuck away, get out of those city, 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.560 tuck off and run that ship up and take care 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:12.760 of your people for real, for real, this shit really 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.080 dried up in the streets. This shit over with. Yeah, 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.839 I think that's smart. Man, Help me understand, because you know, 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:23.040 sometimes I get frustrated from the outside looking in when 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:26.080 I see people who have real beef with like real 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.040 people who are from their city, like situations that you 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.560 were just talking about. But then we'll beef with rappers 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.560 that aren't from their city, and then that equals ship 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.920 and it's like almost like yo, like rap beef is 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.160 so it's turning into something very serious. Obviously, people have 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.240 lost their lives in some of these beefs. But because 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.360 this ain't this shit ain't back then like how you 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:56.400 will see like you'll see like or something or p Diddy, 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.439 Like they'll be like on the internet going back and 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:04.319 forth arguing like real, but it's like you don't never 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.960 see nobody dead behind it or you don't never see 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.960 it like go up for real for real. So motherfucker's 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.719 on the outside from the street street standpoint, like, man, 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.480 that'sh it fake the niggas doing that, that's a publicity stunner. 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:19.640 Some shit, you know what I'm saying, Like like us nowadays, 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:24.480 like it ain't no faking, like we don't know how 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.520 to fake. Were too real for this shit, Like we 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.680 don't know how to fake. Like if it's up, it's up. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.960 We ain't finela, We ain't finna do no shit. I'm 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.520 gonna stop saying we me, I ain't finna do no shit. 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.480 To hop on the internet and be like always up 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:39.120 with him or it is cracking with him and da 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.320 da da da da da, and then we see each other, 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.840 we shaking hands or we taking a picture or a photo. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.480 If I say it's up, it's really that you feel me. 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:48.720 But I got that side of me. I'll come to 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:51.440 you and talk like a man and get an understanding, 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.480 you know what I'm saying. If it ain't no bloodshed behind, 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.520 or if it ain't nothing seious, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.800 I feel like the rap shit sometimes like it turns. 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.200 It starts with something like extremely weird and petty, and 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.520 then sometimes it just gets serious quick like it's like 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.600 it goes from like some weird internet ship someone's on 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:11.920 Instagram live saying some passive aggressive generation and different. Yeah, 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:16.680 it's generations different. Trump is bad. The fucker just ready 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.200 to go off the bridge that didn't give him on. Yeah, 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.880 it's it's it's like it's unfortunate too, man, because it's 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.680 like I just see this ship too much. I'm like, 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.240 gotta be a nigga like me. You gotta have this 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.520 head in his head. Yeah, I got two heads on myselves. 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.800 What do you mean by that? Two heads on myselves? Yeah, 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.720 this right here, I could be this way right here. 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.120 I can be this way right here because I've heard 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.200 the music. It feels like, you know, you got you 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:48.400 got some pretty aggressives. Yeah, how was your Did you 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.600 have a relationship with Vonn before he passed? Yeah? Yeah, n. 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.640 Me and Vonn used to always be in the inbox, 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.320 tweaking with each other, kicking any shit like that. Me 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.840 and Bro supposed to get the record together, but blood 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.360 was getting hot. He was doing that, he for sure 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.120 needed to do it, and I was doing what the 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:04.880 fuck I needed to do, you know, trying to figure 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.840 my shit out. But yeah, hell yeah, blow. It was 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:10.400 a cool last Dawn nigga for sure. For people who 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.160 don't know what what part of Chicago are you from, 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:17.080 I'm from like the southwest side, sixty third California. The kids, 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:21.240 that's across the western How far is that from? Because 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.480 everyone knows Old Block they got to it's on that 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:27.120 GTA now, So like like I'm on my hood is 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:31.120 from sixty first to sixty seven California, the kids. So 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.240 like you be seeing the fans tweaking under my shat, like, ah, 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.480 is they from sixty third? How he doing the song 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:41.720 with with dirt? Like I'm from sixty third, but I'm 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:45.160 from sixty third off the other side of Chicago. They 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.840 on the east side. I'm on the southwest side. Gotcha 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.920 you feel what I'm saying. So all I gotta do 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.640 is get on sixty third in California and ride straight 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:59.560 down to the east side and being Old Block, you 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.200 feel me, It's just like a straight shot down, straight shot, 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:08.119 like fifteen minutes, twenty minutes. Do you feel like for 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:13.680 you obviously you know having because I saw the OTF 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.199 logo on the back of your track track Listen, are 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.240 you like officially an OTF artist? You know? You know, 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:24.000 you know, Dirk, that's my mentor you feel So it's 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.440 just like, really, blood was just trying to get behind 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.000 me on some anything I can do to help anything 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.000 I could do to help whatever you need you need 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.159 to do, like, I'm behind you one hundred percent. You 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.119 know what I'm saying. So we partner it up a 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.200 lot of you know, what is some of the game 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.400 that you know? You know, I think some people forget 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.520 how long Dirk's been at this blood. I always tell me, 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:48.280 like Steak consistent, like stay in the studio, whatever you 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.920 gotta do, go do that ship and then come back 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.000 to the studio. Steak assisted, it's a new artist here 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.120 a day out. You feel what I'm saying. I can't 0:17:56.200 --> 0:18:00.439 let them forget about you, you know, Yeah, always be different. 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:05.400 Don't never do these niggas doing? Do you be different? Yeah? 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.719 That's crazy? You know. I feel like he's right. I mean, 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.080 I think Dirk's you went through a couple of eras 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.560 of music and a couple of eras in his career 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.360 where he was like on Deft Jam, they were trying, 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:19.080 took real live years of experiencing this ship on a 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:23.480 lot of levels. For sure. Let's talk about Chicago hip hop. 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:28.440 Who would you put on the Mount Rushmore of Chicago rap? 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.840 That's four people we gotta put four people, gotta put 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.920 myself though, No, you gotta excluding yourself. Exclude myself. Okay, 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:44.399 we're gonna put Keith. Okay, we're gonna put Juice, Chance 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:53.000 to rapper, Smart and Dirk. No, Kanye Kanye cool, but 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.800 I can't put Kanye up there. You put Kanye over 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.520 like that's that's that you put Chance over Kanye? Yeah, 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:04.280 like Chance. I feel like it's our era Kanye. That's fair, 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.400 you know what I'm saying, Kanye West, that's y'all era 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:09.800 my mama. And did you them You ain't finna catch 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.359 me riding through the city off. No, Yeah, that's feeling 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.200 gonna lot. But I funck with yr music as a person. 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.800 We both them and the most shit, like you know 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:19.639 what I'm saying, But like, what do you think that is? 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:23.760 Like in Chicago, there's such a dynamic range of artists 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.000 that are like you got the chances, you got like 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:29.399 the vic Menses, the Kanye's, the Commons, and then on 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:31.560 the other side you got the Chief Keeps, the Dirks, 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:35.000 guys like yourself. Like it's like either like super artsy 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:40.240 very like you know, heavily like art involved rap, and 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.480 then there's like the hardcore gangster ship like but but 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.119 is it because they grew up in different areas or 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:51.840 I don't really know the history behind like all those 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:55.560 all those people like cuts them in and like all them, 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:57.520 Like I don't I can't even tell you the street 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.119 common grew up on for real, Like I don't really know. 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.560 You ever listen to Coming probably when Pops with somebody 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:07.440 was listening to him Chicago Legends. Twister too, Yeah, Twister 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:09.360 for so I went to the gun range with Twisted 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.640 and ship. Twist took you to the gun range. Yeah, 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:13.680 Twist took me to the gun range. Me and a 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:15.680 lot of my homies. We were shooting guns and ship 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:18.600 he was showing us all exclusive as gun he got 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:23.359 all type of big crazy Yes, he's like training people 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.640 like how to get their gun perman, and yeah that's 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:27.159 what he that's he that's what he gonna do with me. 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.160 That's firing to give my shout out to Twister. Twist 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:31.560 is a great guy. How did he just reach out 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:33.040 to you? How do that? How did that end up happened? 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.040 I think we supposed to been doing the song or 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.080 some ship and then you know he was just on 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.320 some regular ship. Like it's beyond the song type ship 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.040 like this is beial you know on some big broler 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.080 bro shit. You know he's a good dude for sure. 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.560 Shout out to say he's a fucking legend. Shout out 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:53.040 to Chicago man on Fuck my Cousin. You were saying, 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:57.479 if you don't like the fucking OPS posts? Uh, if 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:01.280 you like if you like the OPS post, So, let 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:05.639 me ask you this, right hypothetically speaking, you have like 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:11.000 a relative that's close to you and we're talking like 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.880 in this song from what I gathered, if you're cool 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.800