WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Big Play Michael Wilson Makes Mark 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.280 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles on ahead. 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:06.640 He got jacked. 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:11.959 This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:12.480 and Gilbert. 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.960 Harry's gonna score touchdown slim to the ground by Buddha 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:17.480 Baker like a torpedo. 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:19.400 He came flying into the backfield. 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.960 The Rage is brought to you by santan Ford and 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.120 Gilbert right on the Price right on the corner of 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.720 the Santan two to two Freeway in bal Vista Seek 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:36.680 your Ticket to Great Seats and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.680 Visit Azycardinals dot Com, Slash podcast, A. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.479 Red Seats, Rising ud. 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.840 Jimp You, Rising Vision, Blurry Frage, take it over. 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.720 Here's Paul CALVICI. I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:54.160 I'm telling you I'm ready. 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:57.320 And Ron Wookley, it doesn't get any better than that. 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.240 All right, burn Gang, here we go. We see you. 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.240 Let's hear from you out there. Come on now, right, 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.039 I mean, Bolf, what all the coaches say in the game. 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:13.319 We do this together. 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:17.640 That's right, Paullie, we do it together right now. What's up, 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.480 Red Sea. 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:25.240 I say we're here to restore the roar on the 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:26.600 Big Red Rage. How about that? 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:28.800 Restore the roar, PAULI is that what you're going with? 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:29.319 That's right? 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.720 Let there be a live audience here a trophy and 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:35.240 Chandler located on Queen Creek Road between Price and Dobson. 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:36.280 We are back. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.000 We are back in front of the live crowd. We 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.840 are here with a big time guest. In fact, no 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:43.920 further ado here on the Big Red Rage presented by 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.440 Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul Kelvi's here, Ron Wolfley. 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:46.600 There. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:51.040 You're familiar with this whole farm to table concept, right, Yes, 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:52.960 I am, Bully. I know you're lying right now, but 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:53.680 just go with me. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.160 You don't have any food, do you, Paul? 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.000 So the whole we're thinking this is the football version 0:01:58.040 --> 0:01:59.040 of farm to table. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.200 Follow me here, okay from. 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.960 The Niners end zone twice to this stage and on 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.680 the Valley airways. Please help us. Welcome the rookie Sensation. 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:10.239 Michael Wilson. 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:14.280 Michael, how you doing, buddy? 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:16.320 I'm doing well. I'm doing well. Thanks for having me. 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.680 Nice to meet everyone here. Good to see the turnout. 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.880 Appreciate you guys coming out. But I'm I feel great. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:23.400 You know. 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:27.280 Wolf likes to portray himself is busy during the football season, Okay, 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.320 multiple duties. Nobody has had a crazier week than you, 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:31.239 I'm guessing right. 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.120 Yeah, it's been. It's it's been pretty wild. Honestly. I've 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:38.000 had so many people reach out and just congratulate. 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.480 Me on the two touchdowns and finally having sort of 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.080 a breakout game, if you will. But I think it 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.560 would have been more had we won. But uh, I 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.400 think it's any anytime you can score a touchdown, especially 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.960 your first career touchdown, it's special. 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:53.440 And and people that. 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.560 Know my journey and know my story and have been 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.480 righting with me for a long time, they know how 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.480 much it meant to me to be able to. 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:02.520 Touch the end zone. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:06.240 So I got a lot of overwhelming support and reach 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.160 out from a lot of people special to me. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.160 So, Michael, talk to us a little bit in regard 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.120 to this season and how this is going for you, 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:18.680 this NFL rookie season thing. Yeah, talk to me about 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.920 this season and how you're feeling about yourself. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.400 I feel really really good. I feel like we're in 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:27.359 a really good spot. Obviously, the record doesn't indicate that 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.240 we're really happy with what we put forth, So far 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:34.080 because it is a production based business, but it is 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.800 a new staff. It's a completely different new team from 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:41.040 last year. And I love the direction that the team 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.080 is going in from the top down. I've said this 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.280 in a lot of interviews that I've done since I've 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:50.000 been here. Is jg MANI, the front office and the 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:55.040 coaching staff have done an exceptional job of creating a 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.080 communication line where everyone's in line in terms of the 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.600 team is first and you are second. And I think 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.880 you guys can see that out on the field and 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.760 how guys play. We're playing for each other, We're playing 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.280 for the organization. We're playing for our brother to the 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.720 left and our right. And it's not about me scoring 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.040 two touchdowns or me getting X amount of touches or 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.080 Hollywood Brown getting X amount of touches. It's about doing 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.360 the dirty work, making the blocks for James to spring 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:24.120 him quarterback, making the right read and the open read, 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.359 not just trying to force feed guys just because they 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:27.000 want the ball. 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.480 And so I think we're in a really good spot. 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.800 And I think if we can continue to put on 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.280 one foot in front of the other, you know, those 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.080 win columns will start to turn in our favor. 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.360 I mean, this was a team the Cardinals had got 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.880 down twenty one to three at the forty nine Ers 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.240 arguably the best team in the league. You came back 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.799 to make it twenty one to sixteen early fourth quarter. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.920 The two losses before that were by a combined seven points. 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.400 We know that, Wolf. So here's the head coach, Jonathan Gannon, 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:57.600 just talking about the process and then ultimately, obviously you 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:58.680 want the dub. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:03.920 I like the process that we're operating with, and I 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.919 like their attitude. But we know what we need to 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.719 do to win this next week, you know. And that's 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.680 got to show up in practice and in the game 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.880 because they're itching right now. You're one and three, you 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.480 know what I mean. So, but that's in the past. 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:18.360 You'll learn from it. 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.080 Jonathan Gannon, right there, Wolf and I host his TV 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.480 show every week, and we were talking the other day 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.080 about there's a common denominator, a common thread between all 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.119 the players on this roster. You better be serious about 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.479 the game of football, right or you're not playing for 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.520 JG and MONTI Austin Fort, would you agree with that? 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:40.719 And kind of what I'm about to answer and is kind. 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:44.400 Of alluded to what I previously stated about there being 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:48.200 a unit like the front offices and complete unison about 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.160 what type of guys they want to bring in. They 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.440 want to bring in guys who are high character guys 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.880 on and off the field, who really love the game 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:56.960 of football and are going to do whatever it takes 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.520 to make sure they're maximizing themselves and bringing out a 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.840 high level in all aspects of life. And I think, 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:09.080 like just from being in the league, I came from Stanford, 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:10.839 so I was around a lot of guys who operated 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:12.880 at a high level, just because to get into that 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:20.520 school you have to do that. But the intent that 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:22.680 the guys in our locker room have is at a 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.120 whole other level than what I experienced in college. I mean, 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.680 even guys who have been in the league for eight, nine, 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.320 ten years, doing the same meetings, the same installs, they 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.560 still have a notebook out in are taking notes. So 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.320 everyone's doing a lot of things. JG talks about maximizing 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.360 your potential, maximizing yourself, and I think our team has 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:42.360 done a really good job since I got here doing that. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.680 So, Michael, do you know that Paul went to cal 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:46.440 of course cal Berkeley. Did you know that. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.440 We wouldn't have brought that up until two years ago 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.520 when we finally beat you after about twelve years. So 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.040 you know, finally once again we can mention that anyway, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:56.839 Wolf go ahead. 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.479 That up right there. I'll focus a little bit on 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:02.159 the process. I've heard him talking about the process. What 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:03.840 does he mean by the process? 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.719 Yeah, so I think a lot of times in life 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:08.880 and you can apply this. 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.440 It doesn't have to just be football. 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:15.160 Is you set goals and obviously that's the end goal, 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.280 is to accomplish what you set out to do. But 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.720 really the day to day or the process that he 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.760 talks about is more important than the final result, because 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.520 if you don't take care of the process of getting 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.200 into the building, starting your day with a lift, eating 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.440 the right things every single day, taking notes in the 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.600 meeting room, getting out to practice, operating a high level 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:41.240 of practice, recovering like every single thing, every decision that 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:45.400 you make, and all those little decisions affects that outcome 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.000 or can affect that outcome. And so when he says 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.720 focus on the process, it's those little decisions that you 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.080 make every day to help try to maximize yourself or 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.160 doing the right things to help yield the result. That 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.400 you want put you in the best position so that 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.360 you can go out on Sunday and perform at your best. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.640 So the Cardinals beat the Dallas Cowboys, and the head coach, 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:10.200 Jonathan Gannon, showed with us that they started the Monday meeting. Gannon, 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.640 he started with a mistake he made. He held himself 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.920 accountable in front of the team and with both the 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.040 coordinators as well. What does that say to the team 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.040 when the head coach is willing to hold accountable. 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:26.320 Yeah, I think that one that shows great leadership. And 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.480 I was fortunate enough to take a bunch of different 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.520 classes at Stanford of leadership and was actually a captain 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:35.600 at Stanford. The one of the biggest things that shows 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.360 what a true leader is is the ability to take 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.800 accountability for your own actions or when you make mistakes. 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.720 And so when you have a head coach that's able 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.000 to say, hey, you know what, that's my bad. Maybe 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.280 he didn't make a right call or he said he 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.160 made some wrong decisions in the game, like that shows 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.160 emotional maturity and it shows true leadership because he's confident 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.760 in himself and is able to admit when he messes up. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.880 And I think and also put that on. Put that 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:02.360 forth on. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.480 The coordinators too, like they're the ones that are operating 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.880 the whole thing and driving the ship. And so when 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:13.520 you get that type of disrespect as a man, it 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.240 makes me respect him even more too, because that shows 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.040 respect for us as well, that he's not just putting 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:19.880 the finger at us and saying, well, we need you 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:21.520 guys to do X, Y and Z. He says, hey, 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:23.520 that's my bet. I could have put you guys in 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:25.960 a better position to win the game. And it's gonna 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:26.880 get changed from here now. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:27.720 So I love that. 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:29.959 You know what's amazing about that. My old coach used 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:34.040 to say that culture was the factory. Culture was the factory, 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.600 and process was the product. Like you had this, you 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.600 had the factory culture, this is who we are, this 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:45.040 is what we're gonna do, and now process was put 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.920 that culture into action, go do it and not just 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:53.440 talk about it. Very cool to think about that, and JG. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.280 This this is a very physical team. When I listened 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.839 to JG talk, when I listen to Mani Austin for 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.000 talk about the game of football, it's like a warm 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:07.280 blanket on a cold winter's night. Yeah, because it is hard. 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:11.280 It's the harsh reality that it's a physical game. It's 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.760 a it's a very violent game as a matter of fact, 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:17.000 in between those white lines, and it's very physical. And 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.640 you know what, there's a little bit of danger in 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.439 it as well, if you better go out. It's it's 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.880 a dangerous game played by dangerous people. That's what my 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.440 old coach used to say all the time. Do you 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.240 enjoy that? I do. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.560 I think you you have to enjoy that to be 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.320 you do play at this level, you have to be 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.920 able to be comfortable with stress, be able to be 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.559 comfortable with playing through pain, be able to be comfortable 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.800 with getting you know, the crap knocked out of eve 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.960 and getting up and doing it again and coming back. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.440 And so I think that's one of the best parts 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:53.480 about the game is just I just love to compete, 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.720 and I love to be physical with people and and 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.880 just see, you know, just the test of will against 0:10:58.920 --> 0:10:59.400 other people. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.280 My old coach used to say, there's two things you 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:06.240 gotta do. Two things. You gotta give damage and you 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:10.280 gotta chake damage. That's what you used to say. That's 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.160 why I love the Garve. It really is. It's very cool. 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.480 Guys have one thing in common I mean, we'll play 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.560 ten years in the NFL as a pullback, right, went 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:21.160 to four Pro Bowls, and you got your early reps 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.200 as a blocker in the run game, right, So we'll 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.880 talk about all that when we come back. Rookie Michael 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.800 Wilson are very special guest here and the Big Red 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.080 Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:36.200 Ford and we're coming at July from Trophy and Chandler 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.160 located on Queen Creek Road between Price and Dobson. A 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.880 single game tickets on sale now. 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Michael Wilson with 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:14.280 his first career NFL touchdown played at Stanford just down 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.720 the road, and he comes up big here late in 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.640 the first half shotgun formation for dobb snapped to Dop, 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.000 drops back to Pat looks over the middle throws it 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.040 is caught Wilson and he is into the end zone 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.839 for a second touchdown on ninety nine and a half 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.880 yard drive by the Cardinals against one of the top 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:34.360 defenses in the NFL. 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:39.480 What a great throw by Josh Dobbs. Threw that ball 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.000 into a tight window right across the middle. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:48.360 Well, would you call a statement drive? Ninety nine and 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.439 a half yards against one of the NFL's top defenses 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:52.600 in their stadium. 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:56.640 That was the high points offensively I think for this season. 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:58.800 Ball, I mean that was And you know what I 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:00.720 loved about that that touch down when I saw the 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:03.560 replay is that ball would still be spinning like a 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:05.840 top if it wasn't for Zach Pascal who scooped it 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.199 up on your behalf Michael Wilson, as our guest, the 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.640 guy in the business end of those two touchdowns at 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.920 the game at the forty nine ers, you had seven 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.480 catchers for seventy six yards of the two touchdowns. But 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.360 first to comment on the spin, I mean, boom, you 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.240 got some serious rotation on that. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.360 I took a shot on that play. So honestly, I 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.360 didn't even know what was going on. I was in 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.600 pain getting up, and I just, I guess I used 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:31.160 my anger from. 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:32.880 The guy that hit me and just put all the 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:33.520 into the ball. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.720 So take us through that play if you don't mind, Michael, Like, 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:38.920 what was your assignment on that play? Yeah? 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:43.040 So, so the front side of the play was we're 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:46.240 an empty and Hollywood Brown was the number two receiver 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:48.200 into the short side of the field. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:49.599 He was running an out route. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.960 And the guy outside of him was running a go 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.640 and so he's the number one prior or number one 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:57.679 reading that progression. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:03.120 But they were in quarters but the border exactly. 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.320 But they've twenty nine, who's a pretty good safety, Pro 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:11.200 Bowl safety Kufunga. He understood that and knew that Hollywood 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.120 was our go to guy in that scenario, so he 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.360 kind of cut down on the on the out route 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.240 that Hollywood was running. So that's why Josh got off 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.160 that quickly and came backside to me. I had a 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:25.480 basically a shallow and essentially it turns into match where 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.600 the linebackers matched up on me and all I have 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.560 to do is outrun him. And it was going to 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:32.320 be a basically a two ball on me. I just 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.640 got to make the catch, protect my body, and get 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.840 in the end zone. And that's exactly how it played out. 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:38.720 Do you subscribe to the theory that you know what, 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:40.360 I'm going to get hit anyway, I might as well 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:40.880 catch the ball. 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:43.440 I knew I was going to take a shot. 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.040 That's why I started to kind of spin a little 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.640 bit as the ball was getting to me to protect 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.080 my body. But Josh did a great job of putting 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.280 the ball on me and not leading me into the hit. 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:56.280 So he put the ball on me quick and I 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.080 was able to just kind of body catch it and 0:14:58.120 --> 0:14:59.120 spin into the end zone. 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:03.400 I love asking questions of rookies in regard to college 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:08.480 and pro and contrasting, comparing and contrasting the two, especially 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:12.800 at different positions wide receiver and then offensive line and 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.440 maybe even a full back just a little bit different linebacker, 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:20.800 different perspectives from your perspective as a wide receiver, Yeah, 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.720 what are the differences between the college game and the 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.200 pro game as you see? 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.840 Yeah, So I think I can kind of dissect and 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:32.200 answer that question from two sides. One is obviously the 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.800 scheme that we have. I think everything in the NFL, 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.600 like the timing matters so much more because guys are 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:42.240 so much better. Right, So everything in our route scheme 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.680 is off of footwork, something that I was never introduced 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.720 to before I got to the Cardinals and how we operate. 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.920 So for people that understand the game, like if I'm 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.520 running a fifteen yard curw like in high school and college, okay, 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.360 I'd run to about fifteen yards, I'd stop and I 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.480 come back down to the quarterback. In the NFL, we 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:08.160 have something built in called revolutions or rotations. So if 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.440 we say run a fifteen yard curl, we're going off 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:14.560 are the fifth time that your outside foot hits the ground, 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.400 that's when you start to decelerate and run the crow 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:21.000 route right. Everything is built in, Like if we're running 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.600 an out route, it's off your third inside step. In college, 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:26.840 it was just run at ten yards, and so when 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.920 I get about ten yards, then I put my foot 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.880 in the ground and running out route right, everything has 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:37.520 with seams and bursts like this, the route nuance matters 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:39.800 so much more than details matter so much more because 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.840 the timing matters so much in the NFL, like you 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.200 damn near every catches a contested catch and if it's not, 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.240 you have guys draped up on the back you. So 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:53.440 that's why it's important to master the rotation and revolution 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.840 system within our scheme. And then the other side of 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.520 it is the difference between college and the NFL is just 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.560 guys are better and guys play harder. 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:04.479 I think that's really the big difference is. 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.400 Especially playing in the PAC twelve, you might have on 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.639 a given Saturday maybe five, five or six guys and 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.960 that's pushing it. Sometimes that can actually play in the 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.240 NFL that have NFL talent, Like in the league now, 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.600 it's I'm planning against a real dude or a real 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:24.240 grown man every single week. 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.280 So you have to be at you have to operate at. 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.160 The highest level day in and day out, because there's 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:33.520 no room to have bad days or consistent bad days, 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.400 like you have to operate at such a high level 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.600 because everyone else is doing that and guys are too talented. Right, 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.840 I'm not a guy that runs a four to three 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.440 or four to two and has a forty five inch vertical, 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:49.840 So my edge is I have to be perfect with 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.320 running routes, with catching the football, with how I show 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.360 up every day and how I articulate myself and that's 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.560 what gives me the edge because I can't just fall 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:02.080 back and rely on straight athleticism because that's that's not 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:02.560 my game. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:03.440 It never has been. 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.160 So you just have to kind of find what you're 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.120 you're blessed with and really capitalize that and use that 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.280 to the best of your ability so that you can't 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:13.520 stick and last in the league. 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:17.200 So you're more brained. And Paulie went to cal once again, 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:21.960 just stop and my hashtag is no math. But you're right. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.240 You go from the one percent of football players in 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.320 college to the point one percent you're competing. It's now 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:28.879 in the NFL and one of the best to do 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.280 it ever, Larry Fitzgerald. Well find out if you saw this. 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.159 Darren Urban did a bit nice great profile Michael Wilson 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.800 Azycardinals dot Com. Here's the quote from fits on what 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:39.000 he's seen through four games. 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:39.480 Quote. 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:43.680 He's shown toughness catching balls, has precision route running as 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.560 a young player, which is impressive. You can tell Dobbs 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:48.879 trust him, which is the ultimate right. You got to 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:50.920 get the trust of your quarterback. In fact, on the 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.040 Dave Pash Podcast this week, here's Josh Dobbs talking to 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:55.840 Dave about Michael Wilson. 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.200 The relationship has been awesome, Like he's been a guy 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.320 since the day I got here. I think he was 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.640 probably the first guy that came up and introduced himself 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.240 in the lunch room right when I walked in. But 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.840 he's always you know, picking my brain from a QB 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.399 perspective of hey, like what can I do better? Or hey, 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.960 let's get an extra rep on this, and then from there, 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:14.800 you know, he's just so locked into the game plan 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:16.960 and always you know, doing the right things exactly where 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.280 he needs to be. Obviously, he's a great dude off 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:19.720