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Speaker 4: You're familiar with this whole farm to table concept, right, Yes,
Speaker 4: I am, Bully. I know you're lying right now, but
Speaker 4: just go with me.
Speaker 1: You don't have any food, do you, Paul?
Speaker 4: So the whole we're thinking this is the football version
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Speaker 4: The Niners end zone twice to this stage and on
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Speaker 4: Michael Wilson.
Speaker 1: Michael, how you doing, buddy?
Speaker 6: I'm doing well. I'm doing well. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 6: Nice to meet everyone here. Good to see the turnout.
Speaker 6: Appreciate you guys coming out. But I'm I feel great.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Wolf likes to portray himself is busy during the football season, Okay,
Speaker 4: multiple duties. Nobody has had a crazier week than you,
Speaker 4: I'm guessing right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been. It's it's been pretty wild. Honestly. I've
Speaker 5: had so many people reach out and just congratulate.
Speaker 6: Me on the two touchdowns and finally having sort of
Speaker 6: a breakout game, if you will. But I think it
Speaker 6: would have been more had we won. But uh, I
Speaker 6: think it's any anytime you can score a touchdown, especially
Speaker 6: your first career touchdown, it's special.
Speaker 5: And and people that.
Speaker 6: Know my journey and know my story and have been
Speaker 6: righting with me for a long time, they know how
Speaker 6: much it meant to me to be able to.
Speaker 5: Touch the end zone.
Speaker 6: So I got a lot of overwhelming support and reach
Speaker 6: out from a lot of people special to me.
Speaker 1: So, Michael, talk to us a little bit in regard
Speaker 1: to this season and how this is going for you,
Speaker 1: this NFL rookie season thing. Yeah, talk to me about
Speaker 1: this season and how you're feeling about yourself.
Speaker 6: I feel really really good. I feel like we're in
Speaker 6: a really good spot. Obviously, the record doesn't indicate that
Speaker 6: we're really happy with what we put forth, So far
Speaker 6: because it is a production based business, but it is
Speaker 6: a new staff. It's a completely different new team from
Speaker 6: last year. And I love the direction that the team
Speaker 6: is going in from the top down. I've said this
Speaker 6: in a lot of interviews that I've done since I've
Speaker 6: been here. Is jg MANI, the front office and the
Speaker 6: coaching staff have done an exceptional job of creating a
Speaker 6: communication line where everyone's in line in terms of the
Speaker 6: team is first and you are second. And I think
Speaker 6: you guys can see that out on the field and
Speaker 6: how guys play. We're playing for each other, We're playing
Speaker 6: for the organization. We're playing for our brother to the
Speaker 6: left and our right. And it's not about me scoring
Speaker 6: two touchdowns or me getting X amount of touches or
Speaker 6: Hollywood Brown getting X amount of touches. It's about doing
Speaker 6: the dirty work, making the blocks for James to spring
Speaker 6: him quarterback, making the right read and the open read,
Speaker 6: not just trying to force feed guys just because they
Speaker 6: want the ball.
Speaker 5: And so I think we're in a really good spot.
Speaker 6: And I think if we can continue to put on
Speaker 6: one foot in front of the other, you know, those
Speaker 6: win columns will start to turn in our favor.
Speaker 4: I mean, this was a team the Cardinals had got
Speaker 4: down twenty one to three at the forty nine Ers
Speaker 4: arguably the best team in the league. You came back
Speaker 4: to make it twenty one to sixteen early fourth quarter.
Speaker 4: The two losses before that were by a combined seven points.
Speaker 4: We know that, Wolf. So here's the head coach, Jonathan Gannon,
Speaker 4: just talking about the process and then ultimately, obviously you
Speaker 4: want the dub.
Speaker 7: I like the process that we're operating with, and I
Speaker 7: like their attitude. But we know what we need to
Speaker 7: do to win this next week, you know. And that's
Speaker 7: got to show up in practice and in the game
Speaker 7: because they're itching right now. You're one and three, you
Speaker 7: know what I mean. So, but that's in the past.
Speaker 7: You'll learn from it.
Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon, right there, Wolf and I host his TV
Speaker 4: show every week, and we were talking the other day
Speaker 4: about there's a common denominator, a common thread between all
Speaker 4: the players on this roster. You better be serious about
Speaker 4: the game of football, right or you're not playing for
Speaker 4: JG and MONTI Austin Fort, would you agree with that?
Speaker 5: And kind of what I'm about to answer and is kind.
Speaker 6: Of alluded to what I previously stated about there being
Speaker 6: a unit like the front offices and complete unison about
Speaker 6: what type of guys they want to bring in. They
Speaker 6: want to bring in guys who are high character guys
Speaker 6: on and off the field, who really love the game
Speaker 6: of football and are going to do whatever it takes
Speaker 6: to make sure they're maximizing themselves and bringing out a
Speaker 6: high level in all aspects of life. And I think,
Speaker 6: like just from being in the league, I came from Stanford,
Speaker 6: so I was around a lot of guys who operated
Speaker 6: at a high level, just because to get into that
Speaker 6: school you have to do that. But the intent that
Speaker 6: the guys in our locker room have is at a
Speaker 6: whole other level than what I experienced in college. I mean,
Speaker 6: even guys who have been in the league for eight, nine,
Speaker 6: ten years, doing the same meetings, the same installs, they
Speaker 6: still have a notebook out in are taking notes. So
Speaker 6: everyone's doing a lot of things. JG talks about maximizing
Speaker 6: your potential, maximizing yourself, and I think our team has
Speaker 6: done a really good job since I got here doing that.
Speaker 1: So, Michael, do you know that Paul went to cal
Speaker 1: of course cal Berkeley. Did you know that.
Speaker 4: We wouldn't have brought that up until two years ago
Speaker 4: when we finally beat you after about twelve years. So
Speaker 4: you know, finally once again we can mention that anyway,
Speaker 4: Wolf go ahead.
Speaker 1: That up right there. I'll focus a little bit on
Speaker 1: the process. I've heard him talking about the process. What
Speaker 1: does he mean by the process?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think a lot of times in life
Speaker 6: and you can apply this.
Speaker 5: It doesn't have to just be football.
Speaker 6: Is you set goals and obviously that's the end goal,
Speaker 6: is to accomplish what you set out to do. But
Speaker 6: really the day to day or the process that he
Speaker 6: talks about is more important than the final result, because
Speaker 6: if you don't take care of the process of getting
Speaker 6: into the building, starting your day with a lift, eating
Speaker 6: the right things every single day, taking notes in the
Speaker 6: meeting room, getting out to practice, operating a high level
Speaker 6: of practice, recovering like every single thing, every decision that
Speaker 6: you make, and all those little decisions affects that outcome
Speaker 6: or can affect that outcome. And so when he says
Speaker 6: focus on the process, it's those little decisions that you
Speaker 6: make every day to help try to maximize yourself or
Speaker 6: doing the right things to help yield the result. That
Speaker 6: you want put you in the best position so that
Speaker 6: you can go out on Sunday and perform at your best.
Speaker 4: So the Cardinals beat the Dallas Cowboys, and the head coach,
Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon, showed with us that they started the Monday meeting. Gannon,
Speaker 4: he started with a mistake he made. He held himself
Speaker 4: accountable in front of the team and with both the
Speaker 4: coordinators as well. What does that say to the team
Speaker 4: when the head coach is willing to hold accountable.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that one that shows great leadership. And
Speaker 6: I was fortunate enough to take a bunch of different
Speaker 6: classes at Stanford of leadership and was actually a captain
Speaker 6: at Stanford. The one of the biggest things that shows
Speaker 6: what a true leader is is the ability to take
Speaker 6: accountability for your own actions or when you make mistakes.
Speaker 6: And so when you have a head coach that's able
Speaker 6: to say, hey, you know what, that's my bad. Maybe
Speaker 6: he didn't make a right call or he said he
Speaker 6: made some wrong decisions in the game, like that shows
Speaker 6: emotional maturity and it shows true leadership because he's confident
Speaker 6: in himself and is able to admit when he messes up.
Speaker 5: And I think and also put that on. Put that
Speaker 5: forth on.
Speaker 6: The coordinators too, like they're the ones that are operating
Speaker 6: the whole thing and driving the ship. And so when
Speaker 6: you get that type of disrespect as a man, it
Speaker 6: makes me respect him even more too, because that shows
Speaker 6: respect for us as well, that he's not just putting
Speaker 6: the finger at us and saying, well, we need you
Speaker 6: guys to do X, Y and Z. He says, hey,
Speaker 6: that's my bet. I could have put you guys in
Speaker 6: a better position to win the game. And it's gonna
Speaker 6: get changed from here now.
Speaker 5: So I love that.
Speaker 1: You know what's amazing about that. My old coach used
Speaker 1: to say that culture was the factory. Culture was the factory,
Speaker 1: and process was the product. Like you had this, you
Speaker 1: had the factory culture, this is who we are, this
Speaker 1: is what we're gonna do, and now process was put
Speaker 1: that culture into action, go do it and not just
Speaker 1: talk about it. Very cool to think about that, and JG.
Speaker 1: This this is a very physical team. When I listened
Speaker 1: to JG talk, when I listen to Mani Austin for
Speaker 1: talk about the game of football, it's like a warm
Speaker 1: blanket on a cold winter's night. Yeah, because it is hard.
Speaker 1: It's the harsh reality that it's a physical game. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a very violent game as a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: in between those white lines, and it's very physical. And
Speaker 1: you know what, there's a little bit of danger in
Speaker 1: it as well, if you better go out. It's it's
Speaker 1: a dangerous game played by dangerous people. That's what my
Speaker 1: old coach used to say all the time. Do you
Speaker 1: enjoy that? I do.
Speaker 6: I think you you have to enjoy that to be
Speaker 6: you do play at this level, you have to be
Speaker 6: able to be comfortable with stress, be able to be
Speaker 6: comfortable with playing through pain, be able to be comfortable
Speaker 6: with getting you know, the crap knocked out of eve
Speaker 6: and getting up and doing it again and coming back.
Speaker 6: And so I think that's one of the best parts
Speaker 6: about the game is just I just love to compete,
Speaker 6: and I love to be physical with people and and
Speaker 6: just see, you know, just the test of will against
Speaker 6: other people.
Speaker 1: My old coach used to say, there's two things you
Speaker 1: gotta do. Two things. You gotta give damage and you
Speaker 1: gotta chake damage. That's what you used to say. That's
Speaker 1: why I love the Garve. It really is. It's very cool.
Speaker 4: Guys have one thing in common I mean, we'll play
Speaker 4: ten years in the NFL as a pullback, right, went
Speaker 4: to four Pro Bowls, and you got your early reps
Speaker 4: as a blocker in the run game, right, So we'll
Speaker 4: talk about all that when we come back. Rookie Michael
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Speaker 3: Snapped it drops straight back to throw, looks left, throws
Speaker 3: into the end zone, got a receiver, a sliding catch
Speaker 3: by Wilson pays in for the touchdown. Michael Wilson with
Speaker 3: his first career NFL touchdown played at Stanford just down
Speaker 3: the road, and he comes up big here late in
Speaker 3: the first half shotgun formation for dobb snapped to Dop,
Speaker 3: drops back to Pat looks over the middle throws it
Speaker 3: is caught Wilson and he is into the end zone
Speaker 3: for a second touchdown on ninety nine and a half
Speaker 3: yard drive by the Cardinals against one of the top
Speaker 3: defenses in the NFL.
Speaker 1: What a great throw by Josh Dobbs. Threw that ball
Speaker 1: into a tight window right across the middle.
Speaker 4: Well, would you call a statement drive? Ninety nine and
Speaker 4: a half yards against one of the NFL's top defenses
Speaker 4: in their stadium.
Speaker 1: That was the high points offensively I think for this season.
Speaker 4: Ball, I mean that was And you know what I
Speaker 4: loved about that that touch down when I saw the
Speaker 4: replay is that ball would still be spinning like a
Speaker 4: top if it wasn't for Zach Pascal who scooped it
Speaker 4: up on your behalf Michael Wilson, as our guest, the
Speaker 4: guy in the business end of those two touchdowns at
Speaker 4: the game at the forty nine ers, you had seven
Speaker 4: catchers for seventy six yards of the two touchdowns. But
Speaker 4: first to comment on the spin, I mean, boom, you
Speaker 4: got some serious rotation on that.
Speaker 6: I took a shot on that play. So honestly, I
Speaker 6: didn't even know what was going on. I was in
Speaker 6: pain getting up, and I just, I guess I used
Speaker 6: my anger from.
Speaker 5: The guy that hit me and just put all the
Speaker 5: into the ball.
Speaker 1: So take us through that play if you don't mind, Michael, Like,
Speaker 1: what was your assignment on that play? Yeah?
Speaker 6: So, so the front side of the play was we're
Speaker 6: an empty and Hollywood Brown was the number two receiver
Speaker 6: into the short side of the field.
Speaker 5: He was running an out route.
Speaker 6: And the guy outside of him was running a go
Speaker 6: and so he's the number one prior or number one
Speaker 6: reading that progression.
Speaker 5: But they were in quarters but the border exactly.
Speaker 6: But they've twenty nine, who's a pretty good safety, Pro
Speaker 6: Bowl safety Kufunga. He understood that and knew that Hollywood
Speaker 6: was our go to guy in that scenario, so he
Speaker 6: kind of cut down on the on the out route
Speaker 6: that Hollywood was running. So that's why Josh got off
Speaker 6: that quickly and came backside to me. I had a
Speaker 6: basically a shallow and essentially it turns into match where
Speaker 6: the linebackers matched up on me and all I have
Speaker 6: to do is outrun him. And it was going to
Speaker 6: be a basically a two ball on me. I just
Speaker 6: got to make the catch, protect my body, and get
Speaker 6: in the end zone. And that's exactly how it played out.
Speaker 4: Do you subscribe to the theory that you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm going to get hit anyway, I might as well
Speaker 4: catch the ball.
Speaker 5: I knew I was going to take a shot.
Speaker 6: That's why I started to kind of spin a little
Speaker 6: bit as the ball was getting to me to protect
Speaker 6: my body. But Josh did a great job of putting
Speaker 6: the ball on me and not leading me into the hit.
Speaker 6: So he put the ball on me quick and I
Speaker 6: was able to just kind of body catch it and
Speaker 6: spin into the end zone.
Speaker 1: I love asking questions of rookies in regard to college
Speaker 1: and pro and contrasting, comparing and contrasting the two, especially
Speaker 1: at different positions wide receiver and then offensive line and
Speaker 1: maybe even a full back just a little bit different linebacker,
Speaker 1: different perspectives from your perspective as a wide receiver, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are the differences between the college game and the
Speaker 1: pro game as you see?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I think I can kind of dissect and
Speaker 6: answer that question from two sides. One is obviously the
Speaker 6: scheme that we have. I think everything in the NFL,
Speaker 6: like the timing matters so much more because guys are
Speaker 6: so much better. Right, So everything in our route scheme
Speaker 6: is off of footwork, something that I was never introduced
Speaker 6: to before I got to the Cardinals and how we operate.
Speaker 6: So for people that understand the game, like if I'm
Speaker 6: running a fifteen yard curw like in high school and college, okay,
Speaker 6: I'd run to about fifteen yards, I'd stop and I
Speaker 6: come back down to the quarterback. In the NFL, we
Speaker 6: have something built in called revolutions or rotations. So if
Speaker 6: we say run a fifteen yard curl, we're going off
Speaker 6: are the fifth time that your outside foot hits the ground,
Speaker 6: that's when you start to decelerate and run the crow
Speaker 6: route right. Everything is built in, Like if we're running
Speaker 6: an out route, it's off your third inside step. In college,
Speaker 6: it was just run at ten yards, and so when
Speaker 6: I get about ten yards, then I put my foot
Speaker 6: in the ground and running out route right, everything has
Speaker 6: with seams and bursts like this, the route nuance matters
Speaker 6: so much more than details matter so much more because
Speaker 6: the timing matters so much in the NFL, like you
Speaker 6: damn near every catches a contested catch and if it's not,
Speaker 6: you have guys draped up on the back you. So
Speaker 6: that's why it's important to master the rotation and revolution
Speaker 6: system within our scheme. And then the other side of
Speaker 6: it is the difference between college and the NFL is just
Speaker 6: guys are better and guys play harder.
Speaker 5: I think that's really the big difference is.
Speaker 6: Especially playing in the PAC twelve, you might have on
Speaker 6: a given Saturday maybe five, five or six guys and
Speaker 6: that's pushing it. Sometimes that can actually play in the
Speaker 6: NFL that have NFL talent, Like in the league now,
Speaker 6: it's I'm planning against a real dude or a real
Speaker 6: grown man every single week.
Speaker 5: So you have to be at you have to operate at.
Speaker 6: The highest level day in and day out, because there's
Speaker 6: no room to have bad days or consistent bad days,
Speaker 6: like you have to operate at such a high level
Speaker 6: because everyone else is doing that and guys are too talented. Right,
Speaker 6: I'm not a guy that runs a four to three
Speaker 6: or four to two and has a forty five inch vertical,
Speaker 6: So my edge is I have to be perfect with
Speaker 6: running routes, with catching the football, with how I show
Speaker 6: up every day and how I articulate myself and that's
Speaker 6: what gives me the edge because I can't just fall
Speaker 6: back and rely on straight athleticism because that's that's not
Speaker 6: my game.
Speaker 5: It never has been.
Speaker 6: So you just have to kind of find what you're
Speaker 6: you're blessed with and really capitalize that and use that
Speaker 6: to the best of your ability so that you can't
Speaker 6: stick and last in the league.
Speaker 1: So you're more brained. And Paulie went to cal once again,
Speaker 1: just stop and my hashtag is no math. But you're right.
Speaker 4: You go from the one percent of football players in
Speaker 4: college to the point one percent you're competing. It's now
Speaker 4: in the NFL and one of the best to do
Speaker 4: it ever, Larry Fitzgerald. Well find out if you saw this.
Speaker 4: Darren Urban did a bit nice great profile Michael Wilson
Speaker 4: Azycardinals dot Com. Here's the quote from fits on what
Speaker 4: he's seen through four games.
Speaker 5: Quote.
Speaker 4: He's shown toughness catching balls, has precision route running as
Speaker 4: a young player, which is impressive. You can tell Dobbs
Speaker 4: trust him, which is the ultimate right. You got to
Speaker 4: get the trust of your quarterback. In fact, on the
Speaker 4: Dave Pash Podcast this week, here's Josh Dobbs talking to
Speaker 4: Dave about Michael Wilson.
Speaker 8: The relationship has been awesome, Like he's been a guy
Speaker 8: since the day I got here. I think he was
Speaker 8: probably the first guy that came up and introduced himself
Speaker 8: in the lunch room right when I walked in. But
Speaker 8: he's always you know, picking my brain from a QB
Speaker 8: perspective of hey, like what can I do better? Or hey,
Speaker 8: let's get an extra rep on this, and then from there,
Speaker 8: you know, he's just so locked into the game plan
Speaker 8: and always you know, doing the right things exactly where
Speaker 8: he needs to be. Obviously, he's a great dude off
Speaker 8: the field.
Speaker 4: Here's the stat that says it all. When Josh Dobbs
Speaker 4: has targeted the rookie Michael Wilson, they're fourteen to sixteen
Speaker 4: for two thirty seven, two touchdowns, no picks, and a
Speaker 4: perfect passer rating pretty good of one point fifty eight
Speaker 4: point three. And here's my question, we've seen it, what's
Speaker 4: the upside Because we've seen Josh Dopps just get better,
Speaker 4: Like he had never started three games in a row,
Speaker 4: never started four games in a row, he still only
Speaker 4: started six games in his seven year career. I'm just
Speaker 4: curious how much potential is left.
Speaker 5: I think a lot.
Speaker 6: I think you can never put a ceiling on a
Speaker 6: guy that operates like he does. I've and I kind
Speaker 6: of stole that saying from Jim Nagy who said that
Speaker 6: about Jalen hurt coming out. I've been able to build
Speaker 6: a sort of a relationship with Jim Nage, who's the
Speaker 6: director of the Senior Bowl, and he put out a
Speaker 6: tweet or he said something and I could I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 6: but a lot of the NFL wasn't super high on
Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts. But he differed on that opinion because he said,
Speaker 6: you can never put a ceiling or a cap on
Speaker 6: a guy who's got an exceptional personality and is willing
Speaker 6: to do whatever it takes to maximize himself. And I
Speaker 6: think Josh parallels. I'm not saying he's Jalen Hurts and
Speaker 6: I'm not They're completely different, but in terms of his
Speaker 6: approach to the game, like he does every literally everything right.
Speaker 6: And I said, if you gave him one hundred things
Speaker 6: to do to get work on and get better, like
Speaker 6: he's going.
Speaker 5: To take advantage of all one hundred and try and
Speaker 5: look for more.
Speaker 6: And so I think when you're dealing with someone like
Speaker 6: that who loves the game and wants to be great
Speaker 6: and does whatever it takes and puts in the work
Speaker 6: and goes about things the right way. Like, it's no
Speaker 6: surprise to me that he has success and is going
Speaker 6: to continue to have success.
Speaker 4: I mean he was an SEC quarterback and all timer
Speaker 4: and he got an aerospace engineering degree. Yeah, at the
Speaker 4: same time exactly does internships at NASA in the off season.
Speaker 4: And here's what Josh Dodds told Dave about just the
Speaker 4: first time he kind of realized who you were as
Speaker 4: a player he was watching film.
Speaker 8: It's been tremendous in his growth. Like watching some of
Speaker 8: the camp film and just watching him was like, who's
Speaker 8: this dude, and like, Oh, that's that's the rookie. I
Speaker 8: was like, Wow, he looks like a second third year
Speaker 8: player already. Yeah, and so he'll continue to grow and improve. Man,
Speaker 8: But he's been awesome and so I'm excited for him
Speaker 8: in his career.
Speaker 4: How essential is that to earn the trust to your quarterback.
Speaker 4: I mean as a receiver, that's where it all starts.
Speaker 6: I would imagine, I think trust, Yeah, trust is everything.
Speaker 5: And to hear him say that.
Speaker 6: Makes my day, truthfully, because that was when I first
Speaker 6: got drafted by the Cardinals, and I did an interview
Speaker 6: like my introduction interview.
Speaker 5: All the rookies did.
Speaker 6: It like that was my pretty much my main and
Speaker 6: only goal was to come in Like I didn't said,
Speaker 6: I want to have X amount of yards and X
Speaker 6: amount of catches and this many touchdowns and I want
Speaker 6: to be a starting receiver, and I want to accomplish
Speaker 6: all these things. Like my singular focus was to earn
Speaker 6: the trust of my teammates, coaches, the front office, everyone
Speaker 6: in the organization.
Speaker 5: Because without trust, you have nothing.
Speaker 6: In any walk of life, whether that's a relationship, whether
Speaker 6: that's daily work, business friendships. Trust is everything and everything
Speaker 6: builds off of trust. And so for him to say
Speaker 6: that that means a lot. But I think I think
Speaker 6: I've taken advantage of the opportunities I've had with him
Speaker 6: by staying with him after practice and working on certain
Speaker 6: routes if we missed on a route in practice or
Speaker 6: playing practice, asking him about his footwork so I know
Speaker 6: how much time I have at the line of scrimmage
Speaker 6: on that particular release or a route. So just being
Speaker 6: a sponge and acting like a rookie and probably asking
Speaker 6: him too many questions, even if I sound.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, just picking his brain a lot.
Speaker 6: But uh yeah, we've built a great chemistry and I
Speaker 6: I love playing with Josh.
Speaker 5: I absolutely love playing with him.
Speaker 1: Michael, how many routes do you run that are read routes?
Speaker 5: That are read routes?
Speaker 1: Yes, where you're actually reading coverage running it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in the game plan.
Speaker 6: So if I run thirty routes, say that, give or
Speaker 6: take thirty routes in a game, maybe five to eight
Speaker 6: of them will be read routes.
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, that's very very interesting. Do you like that?
Speaker 1: Do you like the read route?
Speaker 6: I do, because I think if you prepare the right
Speaker 6: way and have a fast thinking brain, you technically can't.
Speaker 5: Be wrong if you have a read route.
Speaker 1: But it's a lot of responsibility because you've got to
Speaker 1: read what the quarterback is reading.
Speaker 6: So, for example, there was a play on third down
Speaker 6: that I think it was third and seven. I caught
Speaker 6: an out route from Josh. Yeah, in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 6: I think it was on our second to last drive.
Speaker 5: So that was a read route.
Speaker 6: It was called Z choice, and so in practice we
Speaker 6: actually rant called that play twice in practice and missed
Speaker 6: both times because I was coming off the ball too
Speaker 6: slow and not making decision quick enough.
Speaker 5: That matched up with Josh's footwork.
Speaker 6: And so when I talk about meeting with him after
Speaker 6: practice and wrapping that after practice, like we ironed out
Speaker 6: all those wrinkles and it worked in the game right.
Speaker 6: Like I broke, I took too much time in practice.
Speaker 6: He got off me and came back later and I was like, hey, man,
Speaker 6: I need you to to be a little quicker because
Speaker 6: I'd like my footwork. I'm waiting on my back foot
Speaker 6: too long. If you're taking that long, I'm just going
Speaker 6: to move off. And so in the in the game,
Speaker 6: it just worked out perfectly. Conferred on that third down.
Speaker 4: By the way, were you aware of how fast your
Speaker 4: quarterback is? I've had about a half dozen guys say
Speaker 4: they had no idea how fast Josh Dobbs was because
Speaker 4: he didn't run in practice, and then when they saw
Speaker 4: him takeoff in the game, they're like, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: don't run, don't leave them.
Speaker 1: Oh wait a.
Speaker 4: Minute, Yeah, you could really run.
Speaker 6: I think, honestly, he might be faster than one of
Speaker 6: our fastest receivers. Rondeo more because and we've been giving
Speaker 6: crap to Rondelo because on Ronde's fifty yard touchdown against
Speaker 6: the Cowboys, Yeah, he ran nineteen point four Miles Brower.
Speaker 5: And then on Josh.
Speaker 4: Dobbs it's a forty four y.
Speaker 6: Four yard run, he ran nineteen point eight, so he
Speaker 6: actually ran faster than one of our fastest receivers.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that's good stuff. That's uh. By the way,
Speaker 4: how's it feel to be a Stanford guy and not
Speaker 4: be the smartest guy in the room, Michael, you know,
Speaker 4: because you know Astro Dobbs that's his nickname, the past
Speaker 4: or not. You know, you and Zach Ertz and Drew Terrell,
Speaker 4: your receivers coach, I mean even Rondell Moore who got
Speaker 4: his degree in two and a half years per due engineering.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, you know, Josh Dobbs is the big bring guy.
Speaker 4: I hope you guys can handle that, that ego blow.
Speaker 4: You guys are good with that, right, Yeah, I'm good
Speaker 4: with that. Good, good with that?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 4: I just want to make sure, by the way, Speaking
Speaker 4: of episode sixty five of the Day Fash podcast featuring
Speaker 4: Cardinals quarterback Josh Dobbs some great stuff talking about going
Speaker 4: into space. It's available now your preferred podcast provider and
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Speaker 4: Once again, it is the Big Red Rage. We are
Speaker 4: live from Trophy and Chandler located on Queen Creek Road
Speaker 4: between Price and Dobson. The rookie Michael Wilson is our guest.
Speaker 4: We'll get into the draft and the Senior Bowl. How
Speaker 4: critical that was. The big Red rage was that of
Speaker 4: Isy santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 1: Post Corner bootsman Zada, Hush pushman Zo. I butchered that
Speaker 1: one too. I don't care. I'm gonna butcher it. Pushman
Speaker 1: Zada rhymes with push hooks, push, push, hush.
Speaker 4: Just say TJ, Just say TJ.
Speaker 1: I'll say hushman Zada for hootsman Zada, pushman Zada.
Speaker 4: Oh, then that was off their wolf. You gotta keep
Speaker 4: your head on a swivel with executive producer Jim mo Monro,
Speaker 4: He's rolling on everything and they'll come back to haunt you.
Speaker 4: Even from two thousand and seven at Cincinnati when during
Speaker 4: the commercial break you're trying to perfect the pronunciation. Michael
Speaker 4: Wilson should know because TJ. Puschman Zada, Yes, was your
Speaker 4: mentor for how many years?
Speaker 1: Right? Three?
Speaker 5: Four years? Now?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 4: Okay, it's a big Red Rage presented by santan Ford
Speaker 4: and Gilbert. Our special guest, the third round rookie Michael Wilson.
Speaker 4: All right, we're live from Trophy and Chandler, located on
Speaker 4: Queen Creek Road between Price and Dobson and t J.
Speaker 4: Huschman Zada. For those not familiar, Oregon state seventh round
Speaker 4: pick played eleven years, went to a Pro Bowl. I mean,
Speaker 4: you talk about the making the most out of a career,
Speaker 4: who cares where you're drafted? I mean he could play,
Speaker 4: played on some great teams, but give us a quick
Speaker 4: recap what he did for you in your career.
Speaker 5: He did a lot.
Speaker 6: I mean, so we started training together COVID when I
Speaker 6: was at when we all got sent home and because
Speaker 6: Stanford was so strict with their policies, especially in Santa
Speaker 6: Clair County. I mean, we got sent home from February
Speaker 6: to March, sorry, February of twenty twenty to July isho
Speaker 6: of twenty twenty, so we were home for like four
Speaker 6: or five months, and I started training with him in
Speaker 6: May and I drove fifty six miles one way, just
Speaker 6: one way to go train with him every single day,
Speaker 6: five days a week in La I'm from the suburbs,
Speaker 6: so I would make that trip out every single day.
Speaker 5: And he did really two things for me. One, I
Speaker 5: think he.
Speaker 6: Gave me a lot of tools and tips and understanding
Speaker 6: how to win at the line of scrimmage, which I
Speaker 6: had no idea how to do, like really understand how
Speaker 6: to win at the line of scrimmage with my releases
Speaker 6: and route running and things like that. But I think
Speaker 6: the other thing he did was and more importantly what
Speaker 6: he did was he gave me confidence because he believed
Speaker 6: in me. And I think anytime that someone who has
Speaker 6: done what you wanted to do or done what you're
Speaker 6: aspiring to do, sure, and was one of the greats
Speaker 6: at during his time, like picks me out and says, hey,
Speaker 6: you can be X, Y and Z, Like I believe
Speaker 6: in you, you can be one of the best receivers
Speaker 6: in college football.
Speaker 5: And he would tell me that.
Speaker 6: Dan there every single day, and so you're a product
Speaker 6: to your environment who you hang out with, and we
Speaker 6: spent so much time together, like I started to really
Speaker 6: believe that and I'm not sure that I truly did
Speaker 6: before I got with him that I actually could be
Speaker 6: one of the best. And I think just him instilling
Speaker 6: that confidence in me, paired with the route running and
Speaker 6: the releases that he taught me, like it was only
Speaker 6: a matter of time before the world or the.
Speaker 5: Football world would recognize what he recognized.
Speaker 6: And it took a while, because I mean, so that
Speaker 6: was a twenty twenty I missed my whole junior year,
Speaker 6: so everything we worked on, I wasn't able to show.
Speaker 6: I missed my entire senior year with everything we worked on,
Speaker 6: I wasn't able to show. And then my fifth year
Speaker 6: I came back for a fifth year at Stanford and
Speaker 6: every single weekend I would fly home during the offseason
Speaker 6: to go train with Every single weekend, every single weekend,
Speaker 6: I would fly home. It's a forty five minute flight,
Speaker 6: so I bought my flights ahead of time because I
Speaker 6: was living on the college stiphen so I would buy
Speaker 6: a flight every single weekend.
Speaker 5: I would come.
Speaker 6: Home, leave Friday night, train with him Saturday, and fly
Speaker 6: back Sunday morning.
Speaker 5: Every single weekend during the off season.
Speaker 6: And it wasn't until like a lot of times, we
Speaker 6: hear in life that the work that you're putting into
Speaker 6: a business to whatever endeavor that you're in, like you
Speaker 6: might not know when your time is coming for people
Speaker 6: to recognize and people to respect what you've been doing.
Speaker 6: And that's really what I wanted for a long time,
Speaker 6: is just to be recognized and respected for what I
Speaker 6: was doing, because I feel.
Speaker 5: Like I didn't have that.
Speaker 1: Michael, I'm sorry and I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: And so the Senior Bowl that was sort of my
Speaker 6: my time, my coming out party.
Speaker 4: So because you had injuries three years in a row. Yeah, right,
Speaker 4: you're on only fourteen games of tape if I saw
Speaker 4: that correctly.
Speaker 5: So season season ending injury and your senior and my
Speaker 5: fig ure.
Speaker 1: Wow, who tipped you off to TJ? Hushmanzana who sold?
Speaker 6: So my high school receiver coach, Jerome Riley, played at
Speaker 6: Washington State, so him and TJ are separated by a
Speaker 6: year or two. Okay, So when my high school receiver
Speaker 6: coach was entering the combine and going through the whole
Speaker 6: draft process, he was training with TJ.
Speaker 5: And Chad Johnson. So that's how I got interested.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very cool.
Speaker 4: So in June, Darren Irvan got a hold of TJ.
Speaker 4: Hushmanzada and he did a story on Michael Wilson and
Speaker 4: he told the story that before the Senior Bowl, he
Speaker 4: told Michael, he said, listen, I'm going to get you
Speaker 4: into the Senior Bowl and I'm going to guarantee them,
Speaker 4: Jim Naggy and the guys who run that he'll be
Speaker 4: the best receiver there. I'm gonna put my name on it,
Speaker 4: and I guarante, bleeping tu you will be drafted in
Speaker 4: the second or third round. That's what he said, he
Speaker 4: told you. And then on draft day, right draft weekend,
Speaker 4: here's the phone call from the war room. This is
Speaker 4: Mantias Sapport and owner Michael biddy Well, the call to
Speaker 4: Michael Wilson after he was the third round selection.
Speaker 5: Hello this Michael. Yes, this is Michael.
Speaker 9: Hey Michael, this is Monte asa Fort, the GM at
Speaker 9: the Ears on the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: How you doing? But what's going?
Speaker 5: I'm doing well?
Speaker 1: How you doing? I'm good? I'm good. Where are you
Speaker 1: at right now?
Speaker 5: I'm just at home in seen the Valley. I just
Speaker 5: got family and friends here, family and friends.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, sir Michael, You're about to have some good
Speaker 9: news for him. Buddy, all right, we're on the clock
Speaker 9: right now. We're about to make you in airs on
Speaker 9: a cardinal.
Speaker 7: Ah.
Speaker 1: Man, that's exciting.
Speaker 7: Man, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, we like everything you're about.
Speaker 9: Okay, you're physical, you know how to run rounde you
Speaker 9: catch the ball.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is an exciting night for you and your family.
Speaker 4: All right, Michael, congratulations, Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: I promise I just you just guys got to steal
Speaker 5: the draft.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking me. We think we
Speaker 1: got to steal the draft too.
Speaker 4: Do you get emotion just listening to that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do.
Speaker 6: I do, honestly good chills every time I I come
Speaker 6: across the video on my camera or just hearing it.
Speaker 5: Now, that was.
Speaker 6: Probably one of the best days if that was probably
Speaker 6: the best day of my life.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 6: And it was just a raw emotion day because I
Speaker 6: had the people that were closer.
Speaker 5: To me all day and everyone was just crying and stuff.
Speaker 4: So here's what's amazing. He had the two touchdown game
Speaker 4: right at the forty nine ers, and there was a
Speaker 4: scout in an NFL scout who tweeted out he wasn't
Speaker 4: surprised because at the Senior Bowl there were two receivers
Speaker 4: who bawled out Michael Wilson and Puka Nikua and think
Speaker 4: about what he's doing for the Rams right now.
Speaker 6: And funny thing is, so me and Puka did our
Speaker 6: combine training together with TJ.
Speaker 1: So TJ was involved in that as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Wow, Me and Puka had had the same strength and
Speaker 6: conditioning coach that did all our forty times and our
Speaker 6: explosive jumps and weight training, and then we would train
Speaker 6: with TJ for receiver work.
Speaker 4: But to you, that Senior Bowl, I mean, your football
Speaker 4: future was hanging in the balance, right for sure. You
Speaker 4: sort of treated that like a Super Bowl for you in.
Speaker 6: Your career one hundred percent because and I knew this,
Speaker 6: Like I think one of the things that I do
Speaker 6: a really good job is I'm really self aware, so
Speaker 6: I can I don't have unrealistic confidence. And I know,
Speaker 6: like if you were to give me a sheet removing
Speaker 6: myself from the situation of the stats that the receivers
Speaker 6: had all there, like I would have been the outlier.
Speaker 6: And some people said when when I would talk to
Speaker 6: other people that I was training with, they'd ask me,
Speaker 6: are you going to a Senior bol And I say,
Speaker 6: I'm going to the recent Senior Bol, and they'd kind
Speaker 6: of look at me and be like, you're going to
Speaker 6: the recent Senior Bol. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to
Speaker 6: the recent Senia Bol. But a lot of people were
Speaker 6: surprised that I got that invite right and probably didn't
Speaker 6: think I deserve to be there and that, and that's
Speaker 6: fair on their point because I didn't have the stats
Speaker 6: per se to back up that invite. But what I
Speaker 6: did have was a lot of people who were around me,
Speaker 6: from people at Stanford, from TJ, from my agent, who
Speaker 6: knew that.
Speaker 5: I possessed the capabilities.
Speaker 6: I just had a string of bad luck with injury
Speaker 6: and wasn't able to show what I was capable of.
Speaker 6: But I treated that moment like my I was pretty
Speaker 6: much told I was going to be sixth to seventh
Speaker 6: round free to undrafted free agent coming out in December
Speaker 6: of twenty twenty two, and so I and I didn't
Speaker 6: want to go that route because I know being undrafted
Speaker 6: is hard in the NFL, and a lot of it
Speaker 6: lies in luck with other guys getting hurt and you
Speaker 6: finding the perfect system. And so I treated that thing
Speaker 6: like my life. My whole life dependent on it, and
Speaker 6: it paid off.
Speaker 1: Here's the one thing I want to say to everybody
Speaker 1: that is listening right now. This guy right here, Michael Wilson,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is just scratching the surface of where
Speaker 1: he's going to be because, honestly, his humility. Do you
Speaker 1: hear his humility when he speaks. His humility will allow
Speaker 1: him to look at himself and say, this is where
Speaker 1: I need to get better. When you say yourself aware,
Speaker 1: that's what I think of I think of humility and
Speaker 1: what it does for a person to allow you to
Speaker 1: look at yourself in a critical kind of way and
Speaker 1: say I need to get better at this. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of guys and you're going to experience this, Michael.
Speaker 1: If you're ten, twelve years, fourteen years, however long you
Speaker 1: play in this league, you're going to come across teammates
Speaker 1: who don't want you to look at where they need
Speaker 1: to get better. They just want to focus on where
Speaker 1: they're good. Look over here, look over here. And because
Speaker 1: of that, your humility will really give you an advantage
Speaker 1: in getting better. Is never lose that I just key,
Speaker 1: and I can tell you already had that, don't.
Speaker 5: You, Yes, sir, I do, Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, that's well said by both of you. That's really
Speaker 4: well done. And I heard you say, Michael, the fact
Speaker 4: that you came out of college at age twenty three
Speaker 4: instead of twenty one, actually, in hindsight maybe might have
Speaker 4: been a bit of a benefit.
Speaker 5: I think so. Yeah, So I was. I just kind
Speaker 5: of thought about that when I had.
Speaker 6: An interview with someone and they said Larry Fitz came
Speaker 6: out at twenty. Yeah, and a lot of guys in
Speaker 6: that I've known in the NFL that come out at
Speaker 6: twenty And I think, god, I wouldn't have been ready
Speaker 6: to perform. Not only physically was I not ready at
Speaker 6: twenty or twenty one, but I think mentally emotionally, I
Speaker 6: wasn't ready to really really capitalize on the opportunity that
Speaker 6: I had. Because I think there's a big difference, and
Speaker 6: I think we all can agree from twenty to twenty
Speaker 6: three or twenty one to twenty three, like.
Speaker 5: That's a huge difference.
Speaker 6: Like you go through to a lot of stuff from
Speaker 6: twenty to twenty three in terms of just being emotionally
Speaker 6: mature and having been through different things, how to handle stress,
Speaker 6: how to articulate myself, how to be punctual, how to
Speaker 6: operate at a high level with people that are way
Speaker 6: older than me.
Speaker 5: I would not have been ready for that.
Speaker 6: And it's not like I was just some you know,
Speaker 6: some dude like I was at Stanford, which is a
Speaker 6: pretty prestigious school.
Speaker 5: But I would not have been ready.
Speaker 6: And so I'm honestly, in hindsight, I'm thankful that I
Speaker 6: probably got hurt my junior senior in fifth year because
Speaker 6: I don't know that i'd have the same success and
Speaker 6: i'd be ready for the moment because in the NFL,
Speaker 6: it's quick.
Speaker 5: It's a production based business.
Speaker 6: Like one or two bad games as a rookie, and
Speaker 6: that can kind of staple an opinion that the fans
Speaker 6: have of you or the building has on you. So
Speaker 6: you have to be ready to capitalize on every moment,
Speaker 6: especially as a young player when you don't have a
Speaker 6: huge sample size of games, Like if I played four games,
Speaker 6: so that that's my resume right now.
Speaker 5: So I can't afford to not.
Speaker 6: Operate at a high level and do all the little
Speaker 6: things that are going to give me the best chance
Speaker 6: to perform on Sunday.
Speaker 4: And by age thirty three, Larry Fitzgerald was tackling wolf
Speaker 4: repeatedly a training camp, So you know there's there's that
Speaker 4: kind of thing that was going on.
Speaker 1: I'm a could never trust a guy from the pit.
Speaker 4: See it's the West Virginia pit thing between the two
Speaker 4: of them. That's how that works, Michael. So I'll tell
Speaker 4: you what I want to get in a little bit
Speaker 4: this opponent. And I know how you've impressed the coaches
Speaker 4: learning multiple positions, right, But Wolf, I know you want
Speaker 4: to ask him too, just about the blocking because remember
Speaker 4: in preseason we were talking to Jonathan Gannon. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: what was the first thing you mentioned his performance, right,
Speaker 4: and what he put on film. It's of the preseason games.
Speaker 4: It's right, that was a single game. Tickets on sale now.
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Speaker 4: seats today. Michael Wilson, the third round rookie out of Stanford,
Speaker 4: is our guest. Two touchdown catches against the forty nine
Speaker 4: ers coming at July from Trophy and Chandler. It's the
Speaker 4: Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We
Speaker 4: are Santan.
Speaker 3: Forward snap to Murray, short set looks, takes off straight ahead.
Speaker 3: He's got the thirty five cuts right to the thirty
Speaker 3: lose to the twenty five to twenty hand down to
Speaker 3: the fifteen yard line. Back to pass goes Murray from
Speaker 3: the pocket, steps up to run after twenty five over
Speaker 3: the middle twenty fifteen to ten, calling out for blockers.
Speaker 1: Did you see the Jets in the pants from Kyler Murray? Wow?
Speaker 3: Murray takes handoff Johnson up the middle. Now it's a fake.
Speaker 3: Murray keats at running left on a five and Murray
Speaker 3: dives but a touchdown. What an incredible fake by Kyler Murray.
Speaker 3: He not only got the Bengals, he got the.
Speaker 1: Broadcaster speed kills baby, right.
Speaker 4: So there you go at Kyler Murray montage at Cincinnati
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, otherwise known as Kyler's first NFL win twenty
Speaker 4: six to twenty three. Wolf as you know you called
Speaker 4: every single game, every single snap. He was the NFL
Speaker 4: Offensive Rookie of the Year. Two more Pro Bowls after that.
Speaker 4: He is coming back currently from the torn acl and meniscus.
Speaker 4: It is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford
Speaker 4: and Gilbert. We are live from Trophy and Chandler with
Speaker 4: Michael Wilson, the third round rookie receiver, coming off a
Speaker 4: two touchdown game at the forty nine ers. Look, Josh
Speaker 4: Dobbs has knocked it out of the park. But how
Speaker 4: curious are you to see what it's like to play
Speaker 4: with Kyler Murray.
Speaker 5: I'm very, very curious.
Speaker 6: And I was a big fan of him when I
Speaker 6: was a freshman in college and he was winning the
Speaker 6: Heisman Trophy, right, and I was looking at him like
Speaker 6: he was like a higher being because.
Speaker 5: He was so good at football.
Speaker 6: And now that I'm in the same building able to
Speaker 6: just be around him on a day to day people,
Speaker 6: the receivers that told me like playing with Kyler special
Speaker 6: because he's able to do things that not many NFL
Speaker 6: quarterbacks are just capable of doing in terms of arm strength,
Speaker 6: in terms of extending to play, in terms of just
Speaker 6: reading defenses and stuff like that. And so I'm extremely
Speaker 6: excited to play because you don't win the Heisman Trophy
Speaker 6: and get drafted number one overall and sign a big
Speaker 6: contract for nothing, like you have to be special on
Speaker 6: what you do to be able to do that, and
Speaker 6: so I'm really excited.
Speaker 1: What about his rehab right now? You've just seen him. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm sure we're in the weight room right or maybe
Speaker 1: going out pulling the slid and outside. How does he
Speaker 1: look right now? Does he look like he's getting better?
Speaker 5: He looks great.
Speaker 6: Honestly, he looks like he'd be trying out for Iron
Speaker 6: Man or something. That dude is freaking jack right now.
Speaker 6: He looks really really good, looks a great physical shape
Speaker 6: in terms of low body fat percentage. Is like, he
Speaker 6: just looks the part right now, and he looks and
Speaker 6: has a great energy and feel, and you could tell
Speaker 6: he's really really excited and ain'xious to get back with everyone.
Speaker 4: You know who doesn't look good. The Cincinnati Bengals, Oh boy,
Speaker 4: they are the lowest scoring team in the NFL. They
Speaker 4: have the thirty first ranked run defense. Yeah, there's some
Speaker 4: macrimony in the locker room after they got Jack stopped
Speaker 4: by Derrick Henry and Tennessee the veteran nose tackle called
Speaker 4: out the second half defense. Guy's not willing to put
Speaker 4: their bodies on the line to make the tackle.
Speaker 1: Demoralizing when you cannot stop the other team from cramming
Speaker 1: it down your throat.
Speaker 4: That's right, you want to cram it. Vertical game, This
Speaker 4: might be it. Here's Josh Dobbs on facing this Bengals
Speaker 4: defense it's or lack thereof.
Speaker 8: We got to do our job, and we're going against
Speaker 8: their defense, which is a strong, stout group that can
Speaker 8: be aggressive, try to get you behind the sticks, and
Speaker 8: so you know, it comes down to execution. We go
Speaker 8: out and they're gonna throw a lot of looks at
Speaker 8: us on different downs and we have to have answers
Speaker 8: and be able to execute and stay out of the sticks.
Speaker 4: Then again, this is a team that won a road
Speaker 4: playoff game each of the last two years at KC
Speaker 4: at Buffalo. They've been to THEFCU Championship game each of
Speaker 4: the last two years. So you want to make sure
Speaker 4: this isn't a get right game for Cincinnati right one.
Speaker 6: And I think you mentioned it and JG mentioned it
Speaker 6: in the meeting, like this is not a team to
Speaker 6: take lightly because they are one of the more talent
Speaker 6: even though their record might not indicate that they're a
Speaker 6: good football team right now if you're just looking at
Speaker 6: us obviously on the sheet, but they are one of
Speaker 6: the more talented teams in the NFL in terms of
Speaker 6: x's and o's, in terms of having an elite quarterback,
Speaker 6: elite wide receivers, They've got a solid defensive line, a
Speaker 6: solid front seven, and they know how to win football
Speaker 6: games because they were playing in the Super Bowl two
Speaker 6: years ago, they were playing ANFC championship less than a
Speaker 6: year ago. So they're a really good team and they're
Speaker 6: not someone to take lightly. And on the flip side
Speaker 6: of it, they're probably looking at us and saying, hey,
Speaker 6: this is a get right game for us, right, Like
Speaker 6: Joe Burrow you mentioned earlier, he said, this is a
Speaker 6: must win for us. So we're preparing like we're getting
Speaker 6: their best shot because we are.
Speaker 5: We're gonna get their best shot. And they're definitely not
Speaker 5: a team to take lightly.
Speaker 4: He's the highest paid player in the game, and you
Speaker 4: don't want this to be the game where he finally
Speaker 4: figures it out and the cap is intact. All right, Michael,
Speaker 4: I can't tell you, for speaking for everyone year, how
Speaker 4: much we enjoyed it. Michael Wilson, the third round rookie year.
Speaker 4: On this edition of The Big Red Rage, presented by
Speaker 4: Santan Ford and Gilbert Live from Trophy and Chandler Cardinals
Speaker 4: and Bengals on Sunday, it'll be the alternate black uniforms
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