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Speaker 4: Here's Paul CALVICI. I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you I'm ready.

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Speaker 4: All right, burn Gang, here we go. We see you.

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Speaker 4: Let's hear from you out there. Come on now, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, Bolf, what all the coaches say in the game.

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Speaker 4: We do this together.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Paullie, we do it together right now. What's up,

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Speaker 4: I say we're here to restore the roar on the

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Speaker 4: Big Red Rage. How about that?

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Speaker 1: Restore the roar, PAULI is that what you're going with?

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Speaker 1: That's right?

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Speaker 1: We are back.

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Speaker 4: We are back in front of the live crowd. We

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Speaker 4: are here with a big time guest. In fact, no

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Speaker 4: further ado here on the Big Red Rage presented by

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Speaker 4: Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul Kelvi's here, Ron Wolfley.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 4: You're familiar with this whole farm to table concept, right, Yes,

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Speaker 4: I am, Bully. I know you're lying right now, but

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Speaker 1: You don't have any food, do you, Paul?

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Speaker 4: So the whole we're thinking this is the football version

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Speaker 4: The Niners end zone twice to this stage and on

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Speaker 4: the Valley airways. Please help us. Welcome the rookie Sensation.

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Speaker 4: Michael Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Michael, how you doing, buddy?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing well. I'm doing well. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 6: Nice to meet everyone here. Good to see the turnout.

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Speaker 4: Wolf likes to portray himself is busy during the football season, Okay,

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Speaker 4: multiple duties. Nobody has had a crazier week than you,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been. It's it's been pretty wild. Honestly. I've

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Speaker 6: Know my journey and know my story and have been

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Speaker 1: So, Michael, talk to us a little bit in regard

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Speaker 6: I feel really really good. I feel like we're in

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Speaker 5: And so I think we're in a really good spot.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this was a team the Cardinals had got

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Speaker 6: Of alluded to what I previously stated about there being

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Speaker 1: So, Michael, do you know that Paul went to cal

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Speaker 4: We wouldn't have brought that up until two years ago

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Speaker 1: That up right there. I'll focus a little bit on

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Speaker 1: You know what's amazing about that. My old coach used

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Speaker 4: Guys have one thing in common I mean, we'll play

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Speaker 3: Snapped it drops straight back to throw, looks left, throws

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Speaker 1: What a great throw by Josh Dobbs. Threw that ball

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Speaker 4: Well, would you call a statement drive? Ninety nine and

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Speaker 1: So take us through that play if you don't mind, Michael, Like,

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Speaker 5: So you have to be at you have to operate at.

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Speaker 6: So you just have to kind of find what you're

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Speaker 1: So you're more brained. And Paulie went to cal once again,

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Speaker 4: You go from the one percent of football players in

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Speaker 4: Azycardinals dot Com. Here's the quote from fits on what

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Speaker 4: He's shown toughness catching balls, has precision route running as

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Speaker 8: The relationship has been awesome, Like he's been a guy

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Speaker 4: Here's the stat that says it all. When Josh Dobbs

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Speaker 4: same time exactly does internships at NASA in the off season.

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Speaker 4: And here's what Josh Dodds told Dave about just the

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Speaker 4: first time he kind of realized who you were as

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Speaker 4: a player he was watching film.

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Speaker 8: It's been tremendous in his growth. Like watching some of

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Speaker 8: the camp film and just watching him was like, who's

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Speaker 8: this dude, and like, Oh, that's that's the rookie. I

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Speaker 8: was like, Wow, he looks like a second third year

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Speaker 8: player already. Yeah, and so he'll continue to grow and improve. Man,

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Speaker 8: But he's been awesome and so I'm excited for him

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Speaker 8: in his career.

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Speaker 4: How essential is that to earn the trust to your quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I mean as a receiver, that's where it all starts.

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Speaker 6: I would imagine, I think trust, Yeah, trust is everything.

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Speaker 5: And to hear him say that.

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Speaker 6: Makes my day, truthfully, because that was when I first

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Speaker 6: got drafted by the Cardinals, and I did an interview

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Speaker 6: like my introduction interview.

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Speaker 5: All the rookies did.

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Speaker 6: It like that was my pretty much my main and

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Speaker 6: only goal was to come in Like I didn't said,

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Speaker 6: I want to have X amount of yards and X

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Speaker 6: amount of catches and this many touchdowns and I want

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Speaker 6: to be a starting receiver, and I want to accomplish

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Speaker 6: all these things. Like my singular focus was to earn

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Speaker 6: the trust of my teammates, coaches, the front office, everyone

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Speaker 6: in the organization.

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Speaker 5: Because without trust, you have nothing.

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Speaker 6: In any walk of life, whether that's a relationship, whether

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Speaker 6: that's daily work, business friendships. Trust is everything and everything

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Speaker 6: builds off of trust. And so for him to say

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Speaker 6: that that means a lot. But I think I think

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Speaker 6: I've taken advantage of the opportunities I've had with him

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Speaker 6: by staying with him after practice and working on certain

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Speaker 6: routes if we missed on a route in practice or

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Speaker 6: playing practice, asking him about his footwork so I know

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Speaker 6: how much time I have at the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 6: on that particular release or a route. So just being

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Speaker 6: a sponge and acting like a rookie and probably asking

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Speaker 6: him too many questions, even if I sound.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean, just picking his brain a lot.

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Speaker 6: But uh yeah, we've built a great chemistry and I

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Speaker 6: I love playing with Josh.

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Speaker 5: I absolutely love playing with him.

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Speaker 1: Michael, how many routes do you run that are read routes?

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Speaker 5: That are read routes?

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Speaker 1: Yes, where you're actually reading coverage running it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in the game plan.

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Speaker 6: So if I run thirty routes, say that, give or

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Speaker 6: take thirty routes in a game, maybe five to eight

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Speaker 6: of them will be read routes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, that's very very interesting. Do you like that?

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Speaker 1: Do you like the read route?

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Speaker 6: I do, because I think if you prepare the right

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Speaker 6: way and have a fast thinking brain, you technically can't.

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Speaker 5: Be wrong if you have a read route.

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Speaker 1: But it's a lot of responsibility because you've got to

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Speaker 1: read what the quarterback is reading.

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Speaker 6: So, for example, there was a play on third down

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Speaker 6: that I think it was third and seven. I caught

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Speaker 6: an out route from Josh. Yeah, in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 6: I think it was on our second to last drive.

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Speaker 5: So that was a read route.

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Speaker 6: It was called Z choice, and so in practice we

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Speaker 6: actually rant called that play twice in practice and missed

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Speaker 6: both times because I was coming off the ball too

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Speaker 6: slow and not making decision quick enough.

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Speaker 5: That matched up with Josh's footwork.

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Speaker 6: And so when I talk about meeting with him after

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Speaker 6: practice and wrapping that after practice, like we ironed out

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Speaker 6: all those wrinkles and it worked in the game right.

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Speaker 6: Like I broke, I took too much time in practice.

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Speaker 6: He got off me and came back later and I was like, hey, man,

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Speaker 6: I need you to to be a little quicker because

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Speaker 6: I'd like my footwork. I'm waiting on my back foot

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Speaker 6: too long. If you're taking that long, I'm just going

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Speaker 6: to move off. And so in the in the game,

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Speaker 6: it just worked out perfectly. Conferred on that third down.

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Speaker 4: By the way, were you aware of how fast your

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Speaker 4: quarterback is? I've had about a half dozen guys say

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Speaker 4: they had no idea how fast Josh Dobbs was because

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Speaker 4: he didn't run in practice, and then when they saw

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Speaker 4: him takeoff in the game, they're like, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: don't run, don't leave them.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait a.

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Speaker 4: Minute, Yeah, you could really run.

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Speaker 6: I think, honestly, he might be faster than one of

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Speaker 6: our fastest receivers. Rondeo more because and we've been giving

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Speaker 6: crap to Rondelo because on Ronde's fifty yard touchdown against

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys, Yeah, he ran nineteen point four Miles Brower.

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Speaker 5: And then on Josh.

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Speaker 4: Dobbs it's a forty four y.

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Speaker 6: Four yard run, he ran nineteen point eight, so he

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Speaker 6: actually ran faster than one of our fastest receivers.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that's good stuff. That's uh. By the way,

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Speaker 4: how's it feel to be a Stanford guy and not

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Speaker 4: be the smartest guy in the room, Michael, you know,

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Speaker 4: because you know Astro Dobbs that's his nickname, the past

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Speaker 4: or not. You know, you and Zach Ertz and Drew Terrell,

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Speaker 4: your receivers coach, I mean even Rondell Moore who got

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Speaker 4: his degree in two and a half years per due engineering.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, you know, Josh Dobbs is the big bring guy.

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Speaker 4: I hope you guys can handle that, that ego blow.

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Speaker 4: You guys are good with that, right, Yeah, I'm good

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Speaker 4: with that. Good, good with that?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 4: I just want to make sure, by the way, Speaking

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Speaker 4: of episode sixty five of the Day Fash podcast featuring

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Speaker 4: Cardinals quarterback Josh Dobbs some great stuff talking about going

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Speaker 4: into space. It's available now your preferred podcast provider and

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Speaker 4: get all the latest up days via Twitter app hash pod.

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Speaker 4: Once again, it is the Big Red Rage. We are

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Speaker 4: live from Trophy and Chandler located on Queen Creek Road

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Speaker 4: between Price and Dobson. The rookie Michael Wilson is our guest.

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Speaker 4: We'll get into the draft and the Senior Bowl. How

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Speaker 4: critical that was. The big Red rage was that of

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Speaker 4: Isy santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 1: Post Corner bootsman Zada, Hush pushman Zo. I butchered that

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Speaker 1: one too. I don't care. I'm gonna butcher it. Pushman

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Speaker 1: Zada rhymes with push hooks, push, push, hush.

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Speaker 4: Just say TJ, Just say TJ.

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Speaker 1: I'll say hushman Zada for hootsman Zada, pushman Zada.

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Speaker 4: Oh, then that was off their wolf. You gotta keep

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Speaker 4: your head on a swivel with executive producer Jim mo Monro,

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Speaker 4: He's rolling on everything and they'll come back to haunt you.

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Speaker 4: Even from two thousand and seven at Cincinnati when during

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Speaker 4: the commercial break you're trying to perfect the pronunciation. Michael

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Speaker 4: Wilson should know because TJ. Puschman Zada, Yes, was your

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Speaker 4: mentor for how many years?

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Speaker 1: Right? Three?

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Speaker 5: Four years? Now?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's a big Red Rage presented by santan Ford

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Speaker 4: and Gilbert. Our special guest, the third round rookie Michael Wilson.

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Speaker 4: All right, we're live from Trophy and Chandler, located on

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Speaker 4: Queen Creek Road between Price and Dobson and t J.

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Speaker 4: Huschman Zada. For those not familiar, Oregon state seventh round

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Speaker 4: pick played eleven years, went to a Pro Bowl. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you talk about the making the most out of a career,

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Speaker 4: who cares where you're drafted? I mean he could play,

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Speaker 4: played on some great teams, but give us a quick

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Speaker 4: recap what he did for you in your career.

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Speaker 5: He did a lot.

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Speaker 6: I mean, so we started training together COVID when I

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Speaker 6: was at when we all got sent home and because

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Speaker 6: Stanford was so strict with their policies, especially in Santa

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Speaker 6: Clair County. I mean, we got sent home from February

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Speaker 6: to March, sorry, February of twenty twenty to July isho

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Speaker 6: of twenty twenty, so we were home for like four

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Speaker 6: or five months, and I started training with him in

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Speaker 6: May and I drove fifty six miles one way, just

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Speaker 6: one way to go train with him every single day,

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Speaker 6: five days a week in La I'm from the suburbs,

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Speaker 6: so I would make that trip out every single day.

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Speaker 5: And he did really two things for me. One, I

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Speaker 5: think he.

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Speaker 6: Gave me a lot of tools and tips and understanding

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Speaker 6: how to win at the line of scrimmage, which I

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Speaker 6: had no idea how to do, like really understand how

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Speaker 6: to win at the line of scrimmage with my releases

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Speaker 6: and route running and things like that. But I think

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Speaker 6: the other thing he did was and more importantly what

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Speaker 6: he did was he gave me confidence because he believed

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Speaker 6: in me. And I think anytime that someone who has

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Speaker 6: done what you wanted to do or done what you're

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Speaker 6: aspiring to do, sure, and was one of the greats

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Speaker 6: at during his time, like picks me out and says, hey,

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Speaker 6: you can be X, Y and Z, Like I believe

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Speaker 6: in you, you can be one of the best receivers

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Speaker 6: in college football.

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Speaker 5: And he would tell me that.

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Speaker 6: Dan there every single day, and so you're a product

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Speaker 6: to your environment who you hang out with, and we

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Speaker 6: spent so much time together, like I started to really

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Speaker 6: believe that and I'm not sure that I truly did

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Speaker 6: before I got with him that I actually could be

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Speaker 6: one of the best. And I think just him instilling

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Speaker 6: that confidence in me, paired with the route running and

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Speaker 6: the releases that he taught me, like it was only

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Speaker 6: a matter of time before the world or the.

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Speaker 5: Football world would recognize what he recognized.

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Speaker 6: And it took a while, because I mean, so that

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Speaker 6: was a twenty twenty I missed my whole junior year,

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Speaker 6: so everything we worked on, I wasn't able to show.

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Speaker 6: I missed my entire senior year with everything we worked on,

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Speaker 6: I wasn't able to show. And then my fifth year

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Speaker 6: I came back for a fifth year at Stanford and

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Speaker 6: every single weekend I would fly home during the offseason

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Speaker 6: to go train with Every single weekend, every single weekend,

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Speaker 6: I would fly home. It's a forty five minute flight,

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Speaker 6: so I bought my flights ahead of time because I

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Speaker 6: was living on the college stiphen so I would buy

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Speaker 6: a flight every single weekend.

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Speaker 5: I would come.

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Speaker 6: Home, leave Friday night, train with him Saturday, and fly

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Speaker 6: back Sunday morning.

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Speaker 5: Every single weekend during the off season.

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Speaker 6: And it wasn't until like a lot of times, we

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Speaker 6: hear in life that the work that you're putting into

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Speaker 6: a business to whatever endeavor that you're in, like you

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Speaker 6: might not know when your time is coming for people

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Speaker 6: to recognize and people to respect what you've been doing.

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Speaker 6: And that's really what I wanted for a long time,

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Speaker 6: is just to be recognized and respected for what I

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Speaker 6: was doing, because I feel.

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Speaker 5: Like I didn't have that.

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Speaker 1: Michael, I'm sorry and I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: And so the Senior Bowl that was sort of my

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Speaker 6: my time, my coming out party.

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Speaker 4: So because you had injuries three years in a row. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: you're on only fourteen games of tape if I saw

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Speaker 4: that correctly.

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Speaker 5: So season season ending injury and your senior and my

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Speaker 5: fig ure.

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Speaker 1: Wow, who tipped you off to TJ? Hushmanzana who sold?

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Speaker 6: So my high school receiver coach, Jerome Riley, played at

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Speaker 6: Washington State, so him and TJ are separated by a

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Speaker 6: year or two. Okay, So when my high school receiver

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Speaker 6: coach was entering the combine and going through the whole

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Speaker 6: draft process, he was training with TJ.

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Speaker 5: And Chad Johnson. So that's how I got interested.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very cool.

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Speaker 4: So in June, Darren Irvan got a hold of TJ.

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Speaker 4: Hushmanzada and he did a story on Michael Wilson and

665
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Speaker 4: he told the story that before the Senior Bowl, he

666
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Speaker 4: told Michael, he said, listen, I'm going to get you

667
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Speaker 4: into the Senior Bowl and I'm going to guarantee them,

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Speaker 4: Jim Naggy and the guys who run that he'll be

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Speaker 4: the best receiver there. I'm gonna put my name on it,

670
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Speaker 4: and I guarante, bleeping tu you will be drafted in

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Speaker 4: the second or third round. That's what he said, he

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Speaker 4: told you. And then on draft day, right draft weekend,

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Speaker 4: here's the phone call from the war room. This is

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Speaker 4: Mantias Sapport and owner Michael biddy Well, the call to

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Speaker 4: Michael Wilson after he was the third round selection.

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Speaker 5: Hello this Michael. Yes, this is Michael.

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Speaker 9: Hey Michael, this is Monte asa Fort, the GM at

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Speaker 9: the Ears on the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: How you doing? But what's going?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing well?

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Speaker 1: How you doing? I'm good? I'm good. Where are you

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Speaker 1: at right now?

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Speaker 5: I'm just at home in seen the Valley. I just

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Speaker 5: got family and friends here, family and friends.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, sir Michael, You're about to have some good

687
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Speaker 9: news for him. Buddy, all right, we're on the clock

688
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Speaker 9: right now. We're about to make you in airs on

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Speaker 9: a cardinal.

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Speaker 7: Ah.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's exciting.

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Speaker 7: Man, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, we like everything you're about.

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Speaker 9: Okay, you're physical, you know how to run rounde you

695
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Speaker 9: catch the ball.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is an exciting night for you and your family.

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Speaker 4: All right, Michael, congratulations, Thank you so much.

698
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Speaker 5: I promise I just you just guys got to steal

699
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Speaker 5: the draft.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking me. We think we

701
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Speaker 1: got to steal the draft too.

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Speaker 4: Do you get emotion just listening to that?

703
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Speaker 1: Yeah? I do.

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00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 6: I do, honestly good chills every time I I come

705
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Speaker 6: across the video on my camera or just hearing it.

706
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Speaker 5: Now, that was.

707
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Speaker 6: Probably one of the best days if that was probably

708
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Speaker 6: the best day of my life.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 6: And it was just a raw emotion day because I

711
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 6: had the people that were closer.

712
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Speaker 5: To me all day and everyone was just crying and stuff.

713
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Speaker 4: So here's what's amazing. He had the two touchdown game

714
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Speaker 4: right at the forty nine ers, and there was a

715
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Speaker 4: scout in an NFL scout who tweeted out he wasn't

716
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Speaker 4: surprised because at the Senior Bowl there were two receivers

717
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Speaker 4: who bawled out Michael Wilson and Puka Nikua and think

718
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Speaker 4: about what he's doing for the Rams right now.

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Speaker 6: And funny thing is, so me and Puka did our

720
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Speaker 6: combine training together with TJ.

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Speaker 1: So TJ was involved in that as well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Wow, Me and Puka had had the same strength and

724
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Speaker 6: conditioning coach that did all our forty times and our

725
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 6: explosive jumps and weight training, and then we would train

726
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Speaker 6: with TJ for receiver work.

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Speaker 4: But to you, that Senior Bowl, I mean, your football

728
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 4: future was hanging in the balance, right for sure. You

729
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 4: sort of treated that like a Super Bowl for you in.

730
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Speaker 6: Your career one hundred percent because and I knew this,

731
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Speaker 6: Like I think one of the things that I do

732
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Speaker 6: a really good job is I'm really self aware, so

733
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Speaker 6: I can I don't have unrealistic confidence. And I know,

734
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Speaker 6: like if you were to give me a sheet removing

735
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Speaker 6: myself from the situation of the stats that the receivers

736
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Speaker 6: had all there, like I would have been the outlier.

737
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Speaker 6: And some people said when when I would talk to

738
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Speaker 6: other people that I was training with, they'd ask me,

739
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Speaker 6: are you going to a Senior bol And I say,

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Speaker 6: I'm going to the recent Senior Bol, and they'd kind

741
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 6: of look at me and be like, you're going to

742
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Speaker 6: the recent Senior Bol. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to

743
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 6: the recent Senia Bol. But a lot of people were

744
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 6: surprised that I got that invite right and probably didn't

745
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Speaker 6: think I deserve to be there and that, and that's

746
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Speaker 6: fair on their point because I didn't have the stats

747
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Speaker 6: per se to back up that invite. But what I

748
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 6: did have was a lot of people who were around me,

749
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 6: from people at Stanford, from TJ, from my agent, who

750
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 6: knew that.

751
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Speaker 5: I possessed the capabilities.

752
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 6: I just had a string of bad luck with injury

753
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 6: and wasn't able to show what I was capable of.

754
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Speaker 6: But I treated that moment like my I was pretty

755
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 6: much told I was going to be sixth to seventh

756
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 6: round free to undrafted free agent coming out in December

757
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 6: of twenty twenty two, and so I and I didn't

758
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Speaker 6: want to go that route because I know being undrafted

759
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 6: is hard in the NFL, and a lot of it

760
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 6: lies in luck with other guys getting hurt and you

761
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 6: finding the perfect system. And so I treated that thing

762
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 6: like my life. My whole life dependent on it, and

763
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Speaker 6: it paid off.

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Speaker 1: Here's the one thing I want to say to everybody

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Speaker 1: that is listening right now. This guy right here, Michael Wilson,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, is just scratching the surface of where

767
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: he's going to be because, honestly, his humility. Do you

768
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: hear his humility when he speaks. His humility will allow

769
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Speaker 1: him to look at himself and say, this is where

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Speaker 1: I need to get better. When you say yourself aware,

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Speaker 1: that's what I think of I think of humility and

772
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: what it does for a person to allow you to

773
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Speaker 1: look at yourself in a critical kind of way and

774
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: say I need to get better at this. There are

775
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Speaker 1: a lot of guys and you're going to experience this, Michael.

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Speaker 1: If you're ten, twelve years, fourteen years, however long you

777
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: play in this league, you're going to come across teammates

778
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: who don't want you to look at where they need

779
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: to get better. They just want to focus on where

780
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: they're good. Look over here, look over here. And because

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00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: of that, your humility will really give you an advantage

782
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Speaker 1: in getting better. Is never lose that I just key,

783
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Speaker 1: and I can tell you already had that, don't.

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Speaker 5: You, Yes, sir, I do, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, that's well said by both of you. That's really

786
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: well done. And I heard you say, Michael, the fact

787
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Speaker 4: that you came out of college at age twenty three

788
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 4: instead of twenty one, actually, in hindsight maybe might have

789
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Speaker 4: been a bit of a benefit.

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Speaker 5: I think so. Yeah, So I was. I just kind

791
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 5: of thought about that when I had.

792
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Speaker 6: An interview with someone and they said Larry Fitz came

793
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 6: out at twenty. Yeah, and a lot of guys in

794
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 6: that I've known in the NFL that come out at

795
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 6: twenty And I think, god, I wouldn't have been ready

796
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 6: to perform. Not only physically was I not ready at

797
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 6: twenty or twenty one, but I think mentally emotionally, I

798
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 6: wasn't ready to really really capitalize on the opportunity that

799
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Speaker 6: I had. Because I think there's a big difference, and

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Speaker 6: I think we all can agree from twenty to twenty

801
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 6: three or twenty one to twenty three, like.

802
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Speaker 5: That's a huge difference.

803
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 6: Like you go through to a lot of stuff from

804
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 6: twenty to twenty three in terms of just being emotionally

805
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 6: mature and having been through different things, how to handle stress,

806
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 6: how to articulate myself, how to be punctual, how to

807
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 6: operate at a high level with people that are way

808
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 6: older than me.

809
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Speaker 5: I would not have been ready for that.

810
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 6: And it's not like I was just some you know,

811
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Speaker 6: some dude like I was at Stanford, which is a

812
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 6: pretty prestigious school.

813
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 5: But I would not have been ready.

814
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 6: And so I'm honestly, in hindsight, I'm thankful that I

815
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 6: probably got hurt my junior senior in fifth year because

816
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 6: I don't know that i'd have the same success and

817
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 6: i'd be ready for the moment because in the NFL,

818
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 6: it's quick.

819
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Speaker 5: It's a production based business.

820
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 6: Like one or two bad games as a rookie, and

821
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 6: that can kind of staple an opinion that the fans

822
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 6: have of you or the building has on you. So

823
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 6: you have to be ready to capitalize on every moment,

824
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Speaker 6: especially as a young player when you don't have a

825
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 6: huge sample size of games, Like if I played four games,

826
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Speaker 6: so that that's my resume right now.

827
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Speaker 5: So I can't afford to not.

828
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Speaker 6: Operate at a high level and do all the little

829
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Speaker 6: things that are going to give me the best chance

830
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Speaker 6: to perform on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: And by age thirty three, Larry Fitzgerald was tackling wolf

832
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 4: repeatedly a training camp, So you know there's there's that

833
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 4: kind of thing that was going on.

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Speaker 1: I'm a could never trust a guy from the pit.

835
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Speaker 4: See it's the West Virginia pit thing between the two

836
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Speaker 4: of them. That's how that works, Michael. So I'll tell

837
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Speaker 4: you what I want to get in a little bit

838
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 4: this opponent. And I know how you've impressed the coaches

839
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 4: learning multiple positions, right, But Wolf, I know you want

840
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 4: to ask him too, just about the blocking because remember

841
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 4: in preseason we were talking to Jonathan Gannon. Yeah, and

842
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 4: what was the first thing you mentioned his performance, right,

843
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 4: and what he put on film. It's of the preseason games.

844
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Speaker 4: It's right, that was a single game. Tickets on sale now.

845
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: Go to Easycardinals dot com slash buy tickets, secure your

846
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 4: seats today. Michael Wilson, the third round rookie out of Stanford,

847
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 4: is our guest. Two touchdown catches against the forty nine

848
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 4: ers coming at July from Trophy and Chandler. It's the

849
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 4: Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We

850
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 4: are Santan.

851
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 3: Forward snap to Murray, short set looks, takes off straight ahead.

852
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,959
Speaker 3: He's got the thirty five cuts right to the thirty

853
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: lose to the twenty five to twenty hand down to

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Speaker 3: the fifteen yard line. Back to pass goes Murray from

855
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Speaker 3: the pocket, steps up to run after twenty five over

856
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Speaker 3: the middle twenty fifteen to ten, calling out for blockers.

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Speaker 1: Did you see the Jets in the pants from Kyler Murray? Wow?

858
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: Murray takes handoff Johnson up the middle. Now it's a fake.

859
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: Murray keats at running left on a five and Murray

860
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Speaker 3: dives but a touchdown. What an incredible fake by Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: He not only got the Bengals, he got the.

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Speaker 1: Broadcaster speed kills baby, right.

863
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Speaker 4: So there you go at Kyler Murray montage at Cincinnati

864
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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, otherwise known as Kyler's first NFL win twenty

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Speaker 4: six to twenty three. Wolf as you know you called

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Speaker 4: every single game, every single snap. He was the NFL

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Speaker 4: Offensive Rookie of the Year. Two more Pro Bowls after that.

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Speaker 4: He is coming back currently from the torn acl and meniscus.

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Speaker 4: It is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford

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Speaker 4: and Gilbert. We are live from Trophy and Chandler with

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Speaker 4: Michael Wilson, the third round rookie receiver, coming off a

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Speaker 4: two touchdown game at the forty nine ers. Look, Josh

873
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 4: Dobbs has knocked it out of the park. But how

874
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Speaker 4: curious are you to see what it's like to play

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Speaker 4: with Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 5: I'm very, very curious.

877
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 6: And I was a big fan of him when I

878
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 6: was a freshman in college and he was winning the

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00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 6: Heisman Trophy, right, and I was looking at him like

880
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 6: he was like a higher being because.

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Speaker 5: He was so good at football.

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Speaker 6: And now that I'm in the same building able to

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Speaker 6: just be around him on a day to day people,

884
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Speaker 6: the receivers that told me like playing with Kyler special

885
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 6: because he's able to do things that not many NFL

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Speaker 6: quarterbacks are just capable of doing in terms of arm strength,

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Speaker 6: in terms of extending to play, in terms of just

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Speaker 6: reading defenses and stuff like that. And so I'm extremely

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Speaker 6: excited to play because you don't win the Heisman Trophy

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Speaker 6: and get drafted number one overall and sign a big

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00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 6: contract for nothing, like you have to be special on

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Speaker 6: what you do to be able to do that, and

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Speaker 6: so I'm really excited.

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Speaker 1: What about his rehab right now? You've just seen him. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we're in the weight room right or maybe

896
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: going out pulling the slid and outside. How does he

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00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 1: look right now? Does he look like he's getting better?

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Speaker 5: He looks great.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, he looks like he'd be trying out for Iron

900
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Speaker 6: Man or something. That dude is freaking jack right now.

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Speaker 6: He looks really really good, looks a great physical shape

902
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 6: in terms of low body fat percentage. Is like, he

903
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 6: just looks the part right now, and he looks and

904
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Speaker 6: has a great energy and feel, and you could tell

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Speaker 6: he's really really excited and ain'xious to get back with everyone.

906
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Speaker 4: You know who doesn't look good. The Cincinnati Bengals, Oh boy,

907
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 4: they are the lowest scoring team in the NFL. They

908
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 4: have the thirty first ranked run defense. Yeah, there's some

909
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 4: macrimony in the locker room after they got Jack stopped

910
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Speaker 4: by Derrick Henry and Tennessee the veteran nose tackle called

911
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 4: out the second half defense. Guy's not willing to put

912
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Speaker 4: their bodies on the line to make the tackle.

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Speaker 1: Demoralizing when you cannot stop the other team from cramming

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Speaker 1: it down your throat.

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Speaker 4: That's right, you want to cram it. Vertical game, This

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Speaker 4: might be it. Here's Josh Dobbs on facing this Bengals

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Speaker 4: defense it's or lack thereof.

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Speaker 8: We got to do our job, and we're going against

919
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Speaker 8: their defense, which is a strong, stout group that can

920
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Speaker 8: be aggressive, try to get you behind the sticks, and

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Speaker 8: so you know, it comes down to execution. We go

922
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Speaker 8: out and they're gonna throw a lot of looks at

923
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Speaker 8: us on different downs and we have to have answers

924
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Speaker 8: and be able to execute and stay out of the sticks.

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Speaker 4: Then again, this is a team that won a road

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Speaker 4: playoff game each of the last two years at KC

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Speaker 4: at Buffalo. They've been to THEFCU Championship game each of

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Speaker 4: the last two years. So you want to make sure

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Speaker 4: this isn't a get right game for Cincinnati right one.

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Speaker 6: And I think you mentioned it and JG mentioned it

931
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Speaker 6: in the meeting, like this is not a team to

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Speaker 6: take lightly because they are one of the more talent

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Speaker 6: even though their record might not indicate that they're a

934
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Speaker 6: good football team right now if you're just looking at

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Speaker 6: us obviously on the sheet, but they are one of

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Speaker 6: the more talented teams in the NFL in terms of

937
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 6: x's and o's, in terms of having an elite quarterback,

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Speaker 6: elite wide receivers, They've got a solid defensive line, a

939
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Speaker 6: solid front seven, and they know how to win football

940
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Speaker 6: games because they were playing in the Super Bowl two

941
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Speaker 6: years ago, they were playing ANFC championship less than a

942
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Speaker 6: year ago. So they're a really good team and they're

943
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Speaker 6: not someone to take lightly. And on the flip side

944
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Speaker 6: of it, they're probably looking at us and saying, hey,

945
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Speaker 6: this is a get right game for us, right, Like

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Speaker 6: Joe Burrow you mentioned earlier, he said, this is a

947
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Speaker 6: must win for us. So we're preparing like we're getting

948
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Speaker 6: their best shot because we are.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna get their best shot. And they're definitely not

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Speaker 5: a team to take lightly.

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Speaker 4: He's the highest paid player in the game, and you

952
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Speaker 4: don't want this to be the game where he finally

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Speaker 4: figures it out and the cap is intact. All right, Michael,

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Speaker 4: I can't tell you, for speaking for everyone year, how

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Speaker 4: much we enjoyed it. Michael Wilson, the third round rookie year.

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Speaker 4: On this edition of The Big Red Rage, presented by

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Speaker 4: Santan Ford and Gilbert Live from Trophy and Chandler Cardinals

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Speaker 4: and Bengals on Sunday, it'll be the alternate black uniforms

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Speaker 4: as well, so that'll be a great look here.

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Speaker 1: We go Special.

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Speaker 4: Thanks to everyone including Jim, i'm monro, Cody Fincher, Lauren Coble.

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Speaker 4: That is the Big Red Range.

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