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Speaker 2: The breakfast club, yep, Charlamagne the God just hilarious and

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Speaker 2: But we got a brother in the building. You know,

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Speaker 2: you know a lot of things that you see that

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Speaker 3: How you doing, my brother, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, I'm blessed man. I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know how to introduce you. Do I

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Speaker 2: say publisher? Do I say business manager?

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Speaker 3: Like? What do I say? You say?

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Speaker 1: Jamaican look product, product of the hip hop environment? Okay?

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Speaker 1: I started uh in the early nineties. God bless Andre Herrel.

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Speaker 1: eighty eight and then fast forward, I would start managing

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Speaker 1: amazing experience because they were so for real. It was

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Speaker 1: Heavy DP, Mary J. Blige, Everybody's walking around on this

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Speaker 1: But we had to make Andre see that, you know,

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Speaker 1: You know what you wanna do? And Sugar Dice opened

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Speaker 1: up his office and I just sprinkled the cassettes all

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Speaker 1: fastest growing record company ever. Our record was the first

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Speaker 1: Now platinum went gold. And now you look at it

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Speaker 1: And my good friend Troy Carter said, Charles, you got

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Speaker 1: And she said, well, Charles, how are you going to

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Speaker 1: looking at Zuri and I as the young kings that

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Speaker 1: But I went to college with Cheeks and at that

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Speaker 1: And Charles. I loved the way you handed yourself in college.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's like.

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Speaker 1: It's the book is literally made for a white young executive.

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Speaker 1: You follow this, you'll be successful. Right, I made every

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Speaker 1: you know Nas? And we were like nah Cheeks knew

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Speaker 1: him from Queen's and she handed us the album and

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Speaker 1: And it got back to Andre and Andre said, lawyer up,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, how do you know? Oh, we know everything,

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Speaker 2: I always wondered why why they didn't sign the Bad

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Speaker 2: Boy I always felt like Lost Boys were such a

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Speaker 1: Well, to be honest with you, when when Puff and Andre separated,

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Speaker 1: and his other sisters and his mom. So it's a

430
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 1: it's a great American story, these story, all of these stories,

431
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 1: from Pinky to Dion. These aren't just black stories. These

432
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: are American stories. And my job is to tell a story.

433
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 1: I'm no different than Kenya Barrus or Spike Lee or

434
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 1: any of these filmmakers. My goal is to tell our stories.

435
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: You know, Italians have been telling their stories for sixty years.

436
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 1: We've been watching and idolizing the Italian When when are

437
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: we going? Ours is the greatest story ever? Ours is

438
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 1: the greatest story never really told. The only stories that

439
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: we're telling are slavery and no. It is, oh my god,

440
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 1: this story. He's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of year.

441
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 1: One of my favorite movies is Book of Clarence. You know,

442
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: like that is loved, probably probably the most accurate story

443
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: ever told about Biblical times, and we laugh about it.

444
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: So thirteen eight. Our goal is to tell our stories

445
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: and make them enjoyable. I have a book with Allen

446
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: iverson coming next year. Who Wallowed Wallow is coming in September.

447
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: When I tell you Wallow's story and who he is,

448
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: like it's real, like how hard he works? Right? I

449
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: wish I could tell you who did his forward, But

450
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 1: like he called me from the person's house in the house, yo, suit,

451
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 1: you know he still gets excited with all his success

452
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: and all his all the money and everything. Suit, I'm here,

453
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: da da da da. And then the next day it

454
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: was a handwritten forward. He sent it to me, and

455
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: then the next day he had his assistant transcribe it, right,

456
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: And the book is just so real, like if you're

457
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 1: from the hood, you're gonna love it because he's telling

458
00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: his story of growing up with the family who indulged

459
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: in crime and he did it because it was what

460
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 1: everybody did. But he's also talking about his transformation and

461
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: the fact that he carried a gun right, but he

462
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: knew in his mind he didn't have the capacity to

463
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: shoot anybody at killing anybody. So it's that story and

464
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: then him waiting. It was almost like you know when

465
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: you see a boxer and the bells about the ring

466
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 1: and they're just like this. He was like that, just

467
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: waiting to get out, and he couldn't wait. And he's

468
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: doing great things. I'm happy to publish that book because

469
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: there's so many messages in it, so many things that

470
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 1: he went through that he's trying to get you to

471
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: not go through it. And as you know, he tells you,

472
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: you know, love our women, flower your girls, and all

473
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: that stuff. So while it was real, I have a

474
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 1: book with Neil Long coming. I can that book. Oh

475
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: my god, it reads like boys in the Hood. I mean,

476
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: she is just she's genius. She's smart. None of it

477
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: is calculated. She's just like when you read that and

478
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: you feel like you read movie like from from four

479
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: years old to current right. And she's standing up for women,

480
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: she's standing up for racial inequality in Hollywood, she standing

481
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: up for her family, and what happened with the Boston Celtics,

482
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: just all of that stuff. And I'm honored to that

483
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: she chose me. You know, everybody wanted that book. And

484
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,719
Speaker 1: I looked at her and I says, sister, you are

485
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,719
Speaker 1: one of our queens, and I got you. I'm not

486
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: gonna let nothing happen to you. And she she felt

487
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: that she walked out. She didn't let me know that,

488
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 1: you know. And then that was like a Thursday, and

489
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: she called me on and I want to say thank

490
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: you to BJ and Mike Kaiser. Literally after she left

491
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: my meeting, she went to have lunch with them and

492
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: I called BJ. Had called me murder inc.

493
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 3: BJ, And no sign from that table, by the way.

494
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no did that. So it's funny, you know,

495
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: I pride myself. I learned so much from the great

496
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: Andre Herrol, but I pride myself in learning from everybody.

497
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: And Doug Morris always taught me return phone calls right.

498
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 1: So BJ had called me like the day before. So

499
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: after the na A long meeting, I looked at my

500
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: call log and I called BJ back and I said,

501
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: B I apologize, what's going on? Suit? Where you at?

502
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: I man Noble with Nori and and Kaiser and Neil.

503
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: I said, niel lng. She just left my office. Nia,

504
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: get over here. You just left and she was like,

505
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, yes, and she got on the phone.

506
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: She said, Charles take my number. And we spoke all

507
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: week and she told her agent I'm going with him,

508
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: and we got it Young Publishing. Nori. I can't his

509
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: book is coming. I can't wait.

510
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 4: You're really like careful and passionate about their stories, like

511
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 4: you don't just see these people as money, like oh

512
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 4: just because of who they are, you know, yeah, like,

513
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 4: oh no, this is gonna make money. Like you you

514
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 4: seem so like into their story and being able to

515
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 4: tell it from their stamp.

516
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: And if Charles wasn't dead, those stories wouldn't be told.

517
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 2: Like people don't understand that. An these publishing companies, these

518
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: people are icons to us, but they're not looking at

519
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: noriy Wallow. They're they're not paying attention. They're not paying

520
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 2: attention to our culture.

521
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: And it's strategic. So after the success I was able

522
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: to sign Norri after the success of stephen A. Right,

523
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: I just went in the meeting. Hey, there's somebody else

524
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: I need to sign right now. Who is it? Nori?

525
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: Of course, nobody in that room. Okay, well you sign them,

526
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: let's go, you know. So that's strategically the same thing

527
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: with Wallow. You know, it's always after the success or

528
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: something I go in. I'm working with Cameron. Now, Cameron

529
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: story is crazy and it's not just hip hop, and

530
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: it's not just man. I mean Pinky Cole, you know,

531
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: it's from Baltimore, but she had a story. She's an entrepreneur.

532
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: She came from a family that was doing some things

533
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, and she created this, this empire. So I

534
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: want to tell our stories. I'm happy to be that

535
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: kind doit. And a part of it is I was

536
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: adopted at age three, right, so I don't know who

537
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: my birth parents are, and I was I have My

538
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: story is a good story. It wasn't the whate was

539
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: me and foster homes and abuse and all that. It

540
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: was literally when I was three years old, two parents

541
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: came along who wanted to have a son in their life,

542
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: and I was blessed, and I feel like my life

543
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: has been blessed and ordained by God. So my mom

544
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: used to tell me they never hint that I was adopted,

545
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: and they said this two ways you can go. You

546
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: can go this way and use this as a crutch

547
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: for being adopted, or you can go on and do

548
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: great things. And you know, I pride myself on trying

549
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: to do the right thing and do great things. So

550
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, my mission is to tell our stories. From

551
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: Pati la Belle. I published Danish Jackson. I published Chris

552
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 1: Jenner on which Chris Jenner was I mean to get

553
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: that book? Was no one saw that coming to tell

554
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: her story. And you know, we'd go years later and

555
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'd say, you know, when I tell people

556
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: that I published, you know you she wow, Christian is white.

557
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: How did you get that book? And Chris would say, Charles,

558
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm a Kardashian. What would they expect? But I mean

559
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: she welcomed me in her house like instantly, this is

560
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: before she really blew. She said, Charles, can you fly?

561
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: And I was like really, And Kim was running around

562
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,479
Speaker 1: and Bruce Jenn at the time was running around and

563
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: she was the first one to tell me that, Look,

564
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, I believe o J did it. And initially

565
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: I looked at her, like, you know, why would she

566
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: tell me that. She said, I can say that because

567
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: he was my brother. He's like I spent every vacation

568
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: with OJ. He was he was like family to me.

569
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: But I know the relationship that Nicole and hed. So

570
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: that's her belief. I guess we'll never know.

571
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: But so yeah, and you know it's interesting right because

572
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: you know, me and Charles are both at Simon and

573
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: she was through with He got thirteen e.

574
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: I got black privilege. We don't step on each other

575
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: at all.

576
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: If somebody said if they say, YO, doing a book

577
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: and somebody said, yeah, but thirteen eight doing it, I

578
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: don't even I'm not trying to outbit him on anything

579
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: at all.

580
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: And we talk. I know what he got coming, he's

581
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: taught he and I don't say a word. He got

582
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: some great books coming, oh my god, not just his.

583
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: He got some that I'm gonna buy that I'm gonna

584
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: we talk about it. And that's the beauty. Like it's yes, competitive,

585
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's not competitive, but it's not

586
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: competitive against one another, right, Like I've told him all

587
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: the books I've gotten. I tell him what I'm going after,

588
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: and he'll say, okay, that's a good one. He tells

589
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: the people that I'm going to have to do it

590
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: with suit. He doesn't say, nah, do it with me,

591
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: yo nori, do that with suit. That's he, you know.

592
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: So it's it's a beautiful thing, and it's it's you know,

593
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: it's it's a blessing with all these beefs going on

594
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: around and wrap like y'all could really work together instead

595
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: of doing all of that negativity. Yeah, first, it's fun

596
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: and it's cute. You know. I was involved in the

597
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: ll Cannabis beef, Yes on cannabis, which Charlemagne said that

598
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't a real big beef, but it was at

599
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: the time because LLL it was the gold at the time, right,

600
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: and cannabis was that young lion, and I got cannabis.

601
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: In the top ten disrecord. I would say.

602
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: I said that to somebody yesterday because I saw Elliot

603
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: Wilson put out the top ten disrecords of all time,

604
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, I feel like second round Knockout

605
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: should be up there.

606
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: Oh man, that record. Oh I'm gonna let the world

607
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: know the truth. You don't want me to shine and study?

608
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god. He played it for me. He was

609
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: in Europe, and I advised him not to do it.

610
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: When it all happened, I said, yo, this, you know.

611
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, I saw Elle like last week

612
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: at the F one in Miami. I'm on the side

613
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: of the stage. He looked at me a few times,

614
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: a smile. We never had any beef, right, That was

615
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: a beef that could have been crazy. I mean, Cannabis

616
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: ran with Haitian, Jack, Ricky Lee, Scooter, all of the

617
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: all of those folks, right, and L had been me

618
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: and self, you know, he had his crew and it

619
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: never it never really went there. It was two people

620
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: that the beef was dumb and L. L would admit

621
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: at some he has admitted that it was kind of

622
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: his fault. You know, it didn't have to go down

623
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: the way it went down. Cannabis looked up to L

624
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: and the rhyme he wrote initially was after sitting with

625
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: L for like hours and talking about the tattoo on

626
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: his arm and saying like, I don't have any tattoos

627
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: like L like if I got and El says, surety,

628
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: if you want to get you you represent that you

629
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: can get it. So that the whole his whole rat

630
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: was giving honor to L, and L kind of came

631
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: in the studio and heard it and just he went crazy,

632
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, so go went on top of that. After

633
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: I found out about it, Eric Simon called me and

634
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: told me about it, called Cannabis, told him. They spoke again,

635
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: and Elle said, Yo, if you change your rhyme, I'll

636
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: change mind. Cannabis came to the studio, changed his rhyme,

637
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: asked me, you know, and L put the record out anyway,

638
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: and at that point there's nothing I could do about it.

639
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we went to even after even after Cannabis

640
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: had been freestyle on the record, the record still was

641
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: not We still went to visit L in La, went

642
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: on the set of the sitcom everything. We were trying

643
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: to really bring this together and it just had gotten

644
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: to a point where they shot the video without him

645
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: and Cannabis is like, yo, suit man, you know, I

646
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: gotta do this, and he went and did it, and

647
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: I was just I was blown away. Got him back,

648
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: though I don't think he got him back.

649
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: He won the war.

650
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Speaker 1: No, no, I'm not gonna see everybody says that, No,

651
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: that can that couldn't look ll won the war clearly, right.

652
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: He had all of the power and muscle of death

653
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: jam who had been doing this longer than them. Right.

654
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: He did not win the battle, That's my opinion. His

655
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: record was better, but he won the war. He had

656
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: more money, more everything. And l is a legend.

657
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: But what did you think when you heard Cannabis tell

658
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: that love you don't got the skills to eat a

659
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: niggas ass like me.

660
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: See, that was before, that was before he said he

661
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: said that. That was before all of this stuff that's

662
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: calling around. We know we we knew what he meant.

663
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: He just meant rapping. He meant rapping that he was

664
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: better than him, so we knew. You knew what that

665
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: meant then.

666
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: And also the Patty of products, right, Patty got the

667
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: pancake mixing everything out now, yep, and I saw master

668
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: p recently he said in an interview that Patty LaBelle

669
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: only owns ten percent of her Patty's Pies. You've worked

670
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: with her, how much truth is in that?

671
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: So I want to say this respectfully, Right, master p

672
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: is out of his mind, right, So he has this

673
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: thing called the master class. And in order to teach

674
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: a masterclass, you should have done your research, right. So

675
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: he claimed that Patty's pies are up front because Walmart

676
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: owns the pie. Walmart does not own anything. They owned

677
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: zero percent of the pie. What it is is that

678
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: the bakery itself. If you walk into any Walmart, the

679
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: bakery is the first thing you see. We are at

680
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: the back of the bakery, right. And it's strategic for

681
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: Walmart to do that because when a customer comes through,

682
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: they're looking for the pie, right, and their goal is like,

683
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: while they're looking for the pie, they might pick up

684
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: some cookies and who knows before they get to the pie.

685
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: He also stated that he did his research and he

686
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: got stuff from Forbes fifty over fifty. You don't make

687
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: the fores fifty over fifty. Owning ten percent of a company,

688
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: she wouldn't even been on the list. Forbes did their

689
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: own research. Business Week did their own research. She owns

690
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. What we did do as a owner,

691
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: you strategically make different partnerships. So what she did do

692
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: is five of her items are exclusive to Walmart. On

693
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: a handshake because they have forty eight hundred stores in

694
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: their high volume. There's no contract on a handshake. Walmart

695
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: buys the pie from us, period, No if ends a butt.

696
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: I think Master Pee mentioned the person who bought the

697
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: pie in Yes, there are buyers, just like there's an

698
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: RS at every record company that called us and said, hey,

699
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: miss LaBelle, I googled you. And when I google you,

700
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: Mac and Cheese comes up, and sweet Potato Pie comes up?

701
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: Do you have a sweet Potato pie? And we were ready.

702
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: And this is a lesson to all the young folks.

703
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: You gotta be ready. We were ready. We had our

704
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: business set up and we said yes, and we approached

705
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: the factory. And the factory we have factories going almost

706
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day making that pie. She employs

707
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of people. And we don't just have

708
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: the poe. We have cobblers, we have mac and cheese,

709
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: we have collar greens, we have pasta dishes. And oh,

710
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: by the way, we're not only just in Walmart. We're

711
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: in Kroger, We're in a Target, We're in our Hold,

712
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: We're in Rouse, We're all over the country. We are

713
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: a nationwide brand. So it was extremely reckless of master

714
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: p to say that I understand it point he's suing

715
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 1: Walmart now because he feels like his product isn't being

716
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: promoted or upfront, that there's a there's a there's a point.

717
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: He has a point, right, But what the consumer needs

718
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: to understand is that Walmart is a real estate company.

719
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: All they're selling is is real estate. They're selling space

720
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: in their store, right and when you have companies like

721
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: Craft and uh, you name a, Pepsi and Coke and dropping,

722
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: all these big companies, they're buying that space. So when

723
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: a black company comes along, nine times out of ten

724
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: they don't have the money to but we don't. We

725
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: don't have the money to buy that space. We don't

726
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: have Coca Cola money, right, So they take a chance

727
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: on young, up and coming companies, like they took a

728
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: chance on us. We hit. They took a chance on us.

729
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: We hit. And by the way, and shout out to

730
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: James chanel Wright, my brother who up the pie and

731
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: it was selling before that, right, so when they called us,

732
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: they had a sleep. Potato Pie was selling four or

733
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: five six pies per store per week. Right when we

734
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: went in. We immediately went up to ten pies per

735
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: So that's a success. If the video never would have happened,

736
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: But that video obviously made it infamous. And I'm super

737
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: grateful for James and what he did, and it was organic.

738
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: He loved people don't understand. He loved Patty LaBelle. And

739
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, thanks for reminding me. The

740
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: pie really popped off. Now, Charlaine's gonna probably try to

741
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: get in my pockets, but the pie really took off

742
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: because I bought the pie up. I called him, I said,

743
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: can I bring this pie up? Just let you taste it?

744
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: So I gave him about four or five pies and

745
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: he posted it. When he posted it, Charlemagne posted it

746
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: because look at he's looking like. So when he posted it,

747
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: James saw that post and went to Walmart, came back.

748
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: And it's because he loved Patty. He had been to

749
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: almost every show when she came into town, and that

750
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: was his ode to her, you know. And on top

751
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: of that, immediately, not when it went viral. Immediately she

752
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: was in overseas somewhere. Her security guard hit him on

753
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: Facebook and said, hey, I saw the video, like, here's

754
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: my number, and they started talking.

755
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: I want you to before it blew.

756
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: I want you to come to my house for Thanksgiving

757
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: because she was just so blown away. She is at

758
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: a place now that she is so humble. Right. We

759
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: just got back from Atlanta and we did two install

760
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: shinings at Kroger's. Just pulled up, she said, Charles, I

761
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: want to go to some Krogers, And hundreds of people

762
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: found out she was in the words spread and she

763
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: just signed boxes. That's who she is. So the audacity woman, man,

764
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: So the audacity of master p. And what hurt me

765
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: so bad is that when he did it, there was

766
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: a guy in the classroom that said he bought the

767
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: pie because it's my sister's a black woman. And he

768
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: was like, you mean she don't own the pie, And

769
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: then all the comments that were coming in, Pai, I'm

770
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: never buying that pie again, Patty, we don't even own it.

771
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: That is a lot of people she owns one hundred percent.

772
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: If you want to know, call Walmart and they'll tell

773
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: you that they buy the pie from us and then

774
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: they sell it. They buy it from us at a

775
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: wholesale price and then sell it at a retail price.

776
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: And where did he even get that from? Where do

777
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: you get that back.

778
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I get what he was

779
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: trying to say, Like, Patty's pies are up front. Well,

780
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: they're a front because the bakery is upfront. And the

781
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: only reason why it's doing well is because it's a front. Well, no,

782
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: we're in the back of the bakery. You got to

783
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: go through the whole bakery, defined or pies or cobblers.

784
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: We have puddings. And now I proclaim today pat Leabelle

785
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: is the queen of breakfast. So this right here is

786
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: a pancake mix. And you know, the whole thing with

787
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: pearrel milling and antemima is when it was created in

788
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds, it was created to really celebrate black people. Right,

789
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't created in a bad way. What happen is

790
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: they never updated, right, who a black woman is? A

791
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: black woman now is an icon. Right, She's a grandmother,

792
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: she's an aunt's, she's a sister. And I feel like

793
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: this is what a black woman represents. And oh, by

794
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: the way, this stuff is good. I mean, this stuff

795
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: is so good and it's organic. Patty's had best selling

796
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: cookbooks for thirty years. She's cooked on Oprah. She was

797
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: the most visited guest on Oprah. Ever, she got voted

798
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: best mac and Cheese. This is not no like yo,

799
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: let me go out and this is real.

800
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 3: It's organic.

801
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: It's organic. Everybody wants to come to Patty's house and

802
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: eat because she loves to cook almost as much and

803
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: almost as much as she loves to singing. And the team, yes,

804
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: Charlamagne has been there, so everybody please go out and support.

805
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: You know, we've gone to essence and Patty's fed forty

806
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: thousand people, right, and people overwhelmingly say, oh my god,

807
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: this is good. Why would I buy pro Milling or

808
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: anybody else is making it when Patty LaBelle, my sister

809
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: makes the same product. Right And oh, by the way,

810
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: she gives back so much pandemic. We gave palettes and

811
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: palace of pies to all the health works. We have

812
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: photos of just delivering the post. Patty is you know,

813
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: she's of that age, and she put on her mask

814
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: and went with us and delivered to the hospitals in

815
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: Philadelphia every Thanksgiving to the food banks out of her

816
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: own pocket. Right. So there's not only yes, it's a

817
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: successful company and you should want it to be successful

818
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: the same way jay Z is successful with a sus

819
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: Spade and all his products. Pay La Belle should be

820
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: held at a certain place because she started a company,

821
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: is sixty years old. She employs hundreds and hundreds of people,

822
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, she gives back and we

823
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: make great products and where everywhere. If you if you're

824
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: buying pancake mix, this is the one. I promise you.

825
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: I promise you. This is the best pancake mix you're

826
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: ever gonna taste. It tastes, it tastes like cake. You're like,

827
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna be like, oh my goodness. We have syrups

828
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 1: and just everything. So support pay La Belle. We're trying

829
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: to do what I'm doing in book publishing, bring our

830
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: coach into stores. I am blessed to be able to

831
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: text and talk to Doug McMillan, who's the CEO of Walmart,

832
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: even when they make a mist They did something that

833
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: was crazy for Juneteenth and I texted him like, dude,

834
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And he said, Charles, believe it

835
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: or not, it was a black employee who suggested it.

836
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: You take that down. Don't do that. So so so

837
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: yeah I did, Yeah I did. But but to be

838
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: able to yeah, to be able to get in touch

839
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: with the CEO of Walmart and Target and have these conversations.

840
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, we started a company called

841
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: z Pak where we're bringing in other developing and some

842
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: One of the companies that we bought into retail is

843
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Chop House and Brooklyn Dumpling Shop and it's it's parties.

844
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: Cardi's whip Shots were already in but we've helped her promote.

845
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 1: We called Walmart and helped her get into more stores.

846
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: Angelaye's Coffee we work with her at Target, but specifically

847
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,959
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful story. I've known Don Pooh for thirty

848
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: years and shout out to Don Pooh Cummings. We work

849
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: with him, got Brooklyn Dumpling Shop into Walmarts and now

850
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: stud Leonards and shop rights. He then circled back and

851
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: gave back to us. The Dumpling Shop is going public.

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Speaker 1: We have shares in the Dumpling Shop. Also, we have

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Speaker 1: equity in the parent company of the Dumpling Shop. And

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Speaker 1: he didn't necessarily have to do that, and he did

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Speaker 1: with no question. He said, Charles, we appreciate what you

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Speaker 1: did for you're a partner. We're going public. We're doing

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Speaker 1: this so we want to give you these shares and

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Speaker 1: it's equity. So Patty is working with Kevin O'Leary, who's

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Speaker 1: a partner in it as well. You're gonna see a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff with them promoting together. But again, it's

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Speaker 1: hip hop and it's the beauty of hip hop. I

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Speaker 1: known Don Pooh since Biggie and Foxy Brown, So for

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Speaker 1: us to be working together in this way is other partner,

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Speaker 1: Dave Thomas. Shout out to him. So we're all working

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Speaker 1: together and it's a beautiful thing. Go out. I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you this pancake mix right now some Kroger nationwide, rouse

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Speaker 1: tons of other stores. You're not going to regret it.

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Speaker 1: It's an amazing product and I'm so proud of it.

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Speaker 3: And get this book.

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Speaker 1: Is coming in September. Your Pinky Wallows is exciting, and

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Speaker 1: shout out to Wallow. Shout out to Gilly as well.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Norri.

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Speaker 3: I think for pre order now right, it's pre order.

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Speaker 1: Go to his page and you can pre order it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for having me. I'm not famous, but

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Speaker 1: I'm up here and thank you for for having me

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Speaker 1: up here. And it's it's an honor and a pleasure

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Speaker 1: and envy. I don't. I don't take it for granted.

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Speaker 1: I used to see his son Logan all the time

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Speaker 1: in high school. I know envy since he was sixteen

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Speaker 1: years old.

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Speaker 3: Wow, he used to come.

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Speaker 1: Up to my office with his YO, I need a song,

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Speaker 1: you know, for his mixtape. So I questioned whether he's black.

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Speaker 1: I thought I didn't know what he was. I was like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: what is this guy?

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Speaker 3: Another? Well, now, y'all, suit man, you should be celebrated.

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Speaker 2: And like I said earlier, people need to see the

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Speaker 2: folks behind the scenes that are making you know, the

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Speaker 2: people in front of the camera look good man, because

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Speaker 2: a lot of these things don't happen without you.

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much, Strat, thank you, congratulations, thank you.

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Speaker 3: It's chall suit It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.