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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and Derek Eagleton. It

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Speaker 1: is Thursday, August twenty fourth, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number twenty nine. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We are live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star. Got a lot to talk about this morning.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with a little bit of news and then

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Speaker 1: I have a new game I'm gonna play with you

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Speaker 1: guys that I'm gonna roll out. It's called We're Good Here.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that in just a few minutes. Now

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Speaker 1: to Jason Witten, I know, we'll talk about that in

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Speaker 1: just a minute. Get into that a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: But before we get there, let's talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about practice. Yesterday. Cowboys had a lot of players not

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Speaker 1: out there practicing yesterday. Dave, I saw you wrote a

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Speaker 1: concerned about that didn't practice, wasn't out, Derek. I did

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Speaker 1: some quick math. Nineteen guys miss practice yesterday for one

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Speaker 1: what that would be for fifty three. But it's a

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Speaker 1: big one is probably Charles Tapper. He missed he suffered

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Speaker 1: on two on Monday because yesterday was Tuesday. No, it's yes,

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Speaker 1: X rays and stuff were negative, which is positive always

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Speaker 1: a funny wording. M Garrett said, I mean it's a

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Speaker 1: day by day situation, so it's not something that they're

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Speaker 1: Other than that, a lot of veteran days orlander Scandrick

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Speaker 1: all those guys that usually rest rested. You still got

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Speaker 1: all your hammy problems in the secondary, but nothing new.

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Speaker 1: Um speaking of those handy problems, Nick the uh. It

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Speaker 1: was interesting yesterday I thought that coach Marinelli called it

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Speaker 1: We're a little bit surprised he used that word dilemma

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Speaker 1: you know two, I mean he I mean, but he's

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Speaker 1: They have different agendas. I mean Garrett, and they have

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Speaker 1: He moved on to the Denver Broncos. He received a

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Speaker 1: We're talking were good. The name of the game is

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Speaker 1: we Good. Here we're talking about different players the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: let walk this offseason and the guys that have been

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Speaker 1: brought in to replace them. Let's keep going down on

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Speaker 1: the list. Brandon Cars the next guy up. He went

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Speaker 1: to the Baltimore Ravens, got a four year, twenty three

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Speaker 1: point five million dollars deal, four million of that being guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys in turn signed Nolan Carroll from the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: They signed him to a three year, ten million dollar deal,

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Speaker 1: where three million of that is guaranteed. I thought, initially,

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Speaker 1: I thought when we had talked about this before, I

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Speaker 1: thought there was a big discrepancy in their contracts because

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Speaker 1: you look at the big number of the twenty three

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Speaker 1: point five million in Brandon's contract, but when you look

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Speaker 1: at the guarantees, it's really only a million dollar difference.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if Baltimore decided they went to part ways

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Speaker 1: after this year, I don't know that they lose a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of money on that deal. All that being said,

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Speaker 1: though we've seen Nolan Carroll practice out here with this

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Speaker 1: team for five weeks. We're good here. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't, not relative to what they they've had.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you kind of knew what you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: with Brandon Carr m and I still don't know if

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Speaker 1: you see that so much with Carol. I think they'll

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Speaker 1: be comparable players. But give me, Brandon Carr thinks a

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Speaker 1: little bit more physical. He maybe you lose some athletically,

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Speaker 1: but he's a little bit more physical, seems more reliable.

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Speaker 1: And when it comes to the community, you get a

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Speaker 1: guy that you know, you know what you're gonna have,

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Speaker 1: and you have a guy that you may be suspended. Say,

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Speaker 1: as it stands right now, we don't know for sure

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Speaker 1: that Carol will be available for all sixteen games. Brand

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Speaker 1: Carr has never missed a game ever ever ever start

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Speaker 1: in his career. That I love Brandon Carr. I might

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Speaker 1: be biased, I know. I mean, he's he's he's not

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Speaker 1: a shutdown corner, but he was much more reliable over

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Speaker 1: the last two years he was here than the first

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Speaker 1: two or the first three. Um, I think he's a

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Speaker 1: little bit better than Carol. He's a commune, upstanding locker

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Speaker 1: room guy, like team leader. So now it's yeah, down

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Speaker 1: We're in downgrade right now, that's the word I'm looking for. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree, I thought Carol would be a little bit better,

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Speaker 1: But after seeing him camp, I'm honestly not feeling great

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Speaker 1: about him. My expectations were somewhat higher, and he's not.

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Speaker 1: At this point. He's not better than Brandon Card to

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Speaker 1: be honest, He's not terrible either for that matter, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's as good as car, but I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna he's not very constant either. You know, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: throw on my broadest impression real quick. And you wanted

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Speaker 1: one of these young corners to come out here and

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Speaker 1: compete and try to take that job, and it just

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Speaker 1: just hasn't happened. That's it, I mean, that's it. I

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Speaker 1: mean he was. The draft is after free agency, so

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Speaker 1: you're gonna kind of somewhat cover yourself, but then you're

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Speaker 1: gonna go and sign, you know, draft other corners and

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Speaker 1: hope that one of them can step up, just like

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Speaker 1: just like David brought us said right there, thanks, which

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Speaker 1: I but you could have gone Kevin King in the

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Speaker 1: first round if you really wanted that guy, because he

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Speaker 1: was there. I think I said yesterday or earlier this

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Speaker 1: week that just just because it didn't happen at training

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Speaker 1: camp doesn't mean it can't happen though, right, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean if Jordan Lewis is really this stud cornerback

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00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: that will play itself out as the season goes along.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny, It's like all these people that

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Speaker 1: would always talk crap about Brandon Carr and now it's like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: we want him back and now we miss him. That's

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Speaker 1: the way it normally goes, right, I don't I would

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Speaker 1: guess Cowboy fans regardless of what we're saying. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Cowboy fans are ready to say that yet.

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00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: It'll take actual touchdowns being scored in real games with

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Speaker 1: Carol running behind them and then doing the infamous handclap. Yeah, yeah,

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00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: you get me some messages here. That's what I'm seeing bring.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I will say this though I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Brandon Carr took took his lumps from time

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Speaker 1: to time with fans. But I think by the end

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Speaker 1: of last year, at at least the listeners of this

565
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: show and the way that they were calling in and

566
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Speaker 1: that kind of thing, I don't think they thought Brandon

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Speaker 1: was a problem. I think they felt like Brandon was

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00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: a solid guy. Again, he goes back to what we

569
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: said about Barry Church. He's a solid guy. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody said Brandon was a pro bowler,

571
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Speaker 1: but he was a solid cornerback and there was something too,

572
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Speaker 1: the ability to be healthy, to play every week and

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Speaker 1: to be a solid corner There was gonna be in

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Speaker 1: his career. Here, I think which you could probably bet on,

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Speaker 1: was that there were gonna be one or two games

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Speaker 1: a year where you were like, oh wow, that was

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Speaker 1: bad for Brandon Carr, and most of the rest of

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Speaker 1: those other games you were gonna be like, he did

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Speaker 1: his job, and that's that's kind of the player that

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Speaker 1: he was. That's the nature of cornerback. Though he spent

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Speaker 1: how he spent seventeen weeks kind of building his credibility

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Speaker 1: back up, and then one play against Green Bay that

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Speaker 1: the sides of the season is how people are going

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Speaker 1: to remember him. And I mean that's football, that's life.

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00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm not I mean, especially cornerback. You know, not gonna

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Speaker 1: lose sleep for Brandon Carr about it. But that's really that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'd say the eighty percent of his performances

588
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: were pretty good. But the top two things on the list,

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Speaker 1: the top three things on the list will be Beckham,

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Speaker 1: Green Bay in the playoffs, and then the freaking Calvin

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Speaker 1: Johnson game. Like those are probably the three that jump out,

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Speaker 1: even though they were three of his worst performances out

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Speaker 1: of five years that were pretty solid over and by

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Speaker 1: the way, those are some pretty good receivers suit pretty

595
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: pretty good receiver. It's I think, right up there with quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It's the hardest job in the NFL mentally and physically.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the next position. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about Terrell McClain. He went to Washington four year,

599
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Speaker 1: twenty one million dollars deal, ten point five million guarantee.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty nice deal for a guy that, while

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Speaker 1: he was with the Cowboys, really had issues. More so

602
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: stank healthy than anything else. Because when he was playing,

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Speaker 1: which usually a pretty good player for the Cowboys, the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys replace him with what I think is probably the

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Speaker 1: steal of this entire conversation. They get Steven Pye on

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Speaker 1: a one year deal, two million dollars and five hundred

607
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: thousand guaranteed. We got here, we have one. We have

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Speaker 1: to figure this out, like which one of us has

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Speaker 1: the man crush on Stephen Pie because like we've been

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Speaker 1: fighting about, well, I've been I've always since at first

611
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Speaker 1: the first few practices, after I saw him doing some

612
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Speaker 1: of the things he was doing, I was like, they

613
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Speaker 1: got themselves a player right there. I really liked Stephen Pie.

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Speaker 1: He'd liked him after the soccer I did. I did.

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Speaker 1: I did like him after the soccer video. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he he probably ranked second or third among among the players,

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Speaker 1: among the players, first among all linemen. Yeah, and the

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Speaker 1: big fat boys. He was pretty good, which means he's

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Speaker 1: got a pretty good feet, good fee. I never ever

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Speaker 1: was a big fan of Terrell McClean because of the

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Speaker 1: injuries or just period just just h yeah, injuries number one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and he was pretty good and he kind

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Speaker 1: of heard everyone talk about how asually was and all that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I know Brian really liked him, but

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Speaker 1: I just I never really he never really did it

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Speaker 1: for me. It was just like, Okay, he's a solid player,

627
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Speaker 1: but I never thought, you know, he didn't make a

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Speaker 1: lot of plays, a lot of stats, which you're not

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Speaker 1: going to from that position too often. But I just

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Speaker 1: you know, he was one of those guys. If yeah,

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Speaker 1: he left the free agency, okay, we figured out, and

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Speaker 1: for right now it seems like they sort of have.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be hurt down in Washington, and

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Speaker 1: I just don't think he'll be a guy that you're like, man,

635
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Speaker 1: we missed him. So if Piez as good as he's

636
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Speaker 1: looked at training camp, I think this will be a

637
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Speaker 1: steal for them. I mean, he looks disruptive and that's

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Speaker 1: the big I think he looks like a guy who

639
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: can get sacks, which is what this team needs, and

640
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: he's playing at a bargain rate. So I think that

641
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: is a big coup for them, a good job. I

642
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: also think when all the suspensions are over and if

643
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: the injuries, if they can stay healthy at that position,

644
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: I think Demontre Moore goes back to you know, obviously

645
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: he plays in you you've got Mayaver there, You've got

646
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, and you've got Taco. I could see a

647
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: scenario a word, Tyrone Crawford does go back. If everyone's

648
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: pretty healthy and Taco's doing his job and Demontre Moore

649
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: is getting some some reps. I could see Crawford playing

650
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: more in the inside. Could see Irving playing something right.

651
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna so where does Irving face? Well? Everything

652
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: just you know, you just plug a guy that's six

653
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: seven somewhere in there. He'll play. I mean, I'm just

654
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: saying it's a good rotation. But I could see more

655
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: guys going back to tackle. If Demontre Moore can can

656
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: give you some some things and Taco also comes on,

657
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean there's kind of an odd

658
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: man out when it's all said and done, like in

659
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: the middle of the year. So does someone get hurt?

660
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: Do you just cut a veteran who And that's what

661
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: we're talking about yesterday. Does Taper end up being a

662
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: guy that's oh yeah, that's right there at that point

663
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: where he could be cut because I have you have

664
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: a lot of guys once everybody's not just factoring in

665
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: Tapper by week seven. I'm just he's out of the

666
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: equation for me, whether he was cutting now or an

667
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: ir or whatever. I just I'm not even factoring him.

668
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm taking him out of the equation. I still think

669
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: you've got more more players than you need. If everyone

670
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: comes back, I mean, maywe may not be completely safe,

671
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, throughout the whole year. Wow, I mean just

672
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: when you when you think about it, I mean, if

673
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: when everyone comes back, who you've got in the middle,

674
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: You've got You've got MALIEK. Collins, Paiac Cedric Thornton, He's

675
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: another one that you know. I mean, guys like that

676
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: you kind of just wonder, well, what are we gonna do?

677
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: But if that's that's if Demontre Moore shows that he

678
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: can be reliable and taco as well. All right, let's

679
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: move on Morris Clayborne. He went to the New York

680
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: Jets on a one year deal five million dollars, two

681
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: million of that is guaranteed. And the Cowboys obviously are

682
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: are elevating Anthony Brown, a guy that was is in

683
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: his second year as a Cowboy and then obviously drafted

684
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: Cheetahbo Woozier, drafted Jordan Lewis, drafted Marquez White. They're looking

685
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: for other options to be able to bring in supplement

686
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: that cornerback position. Were good here based upon again Morris

687
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: Clayborne being leaving and these guys kind of as a

688
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: collective group coming in to be to kind of add

689
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: that depth to the cornerback position or were Yes, you

690
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: will not find a bigger cheerleader than I was for

691
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: the way that mo raised his game last year and

692
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: how well he played and how reliably was until right

693
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: up until he got hurt, which was the fifth year

694
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: in a row that that's happened for him, and you

695
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: know it just tough. We went to LSU. Love the guy,

696
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: nice dude, better player than he got credit for. Clearly

697
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: did not live up to the number six. I mean,

698
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: nobody could argue that ever clearly didn't live up to

699
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: that couldn't stay healthy at some point, just just cut

700
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: your losses, any I mean, we haven't seen Cheeto or

701
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis in a real game situation. And you know,

702
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown's only in year or two. But I'm perfectly

703
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: willing to just ride with what they might be over

704
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: just going down that road again. And all of a sudden,

705
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: you know, Mo's not playing in Week nine for the

706
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: fourth year in a row. Yep, I agree. I mean

707
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: I wish he was a better wish you know, you

708
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: always rooted for him for everything that that he that

709
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: he went through on and off the field, but at

710
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: the end of the day he had to just kind

711
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: of and you know, and changes the scenery can work

712
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: great both ways. I mean, I've got my eye on

713
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: him with the Jets. I don't I mean, I couldn't

714
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: tell you right now how he's doing up there. But

715
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: I hope, you know, I hope he's got I hope

716
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: he goes to the Pro Bowls. I'd be awesome, But

717
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: it's just at some point, numbers wiring over there. I

718
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: don't even know. I heard maybe he was gonna wear

719
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: twenty one, but that they didn't let him or something.

720
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: I can't be twenty four right then, I canna give him.

721
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look that up when I get off the air.

722
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if he's like, is Revas

723
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 1: like number retired? Was he that great with the Jets?

724
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he's pretty damn great. No he was. No,

725
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not getting it. I'm saying was he

726
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: that great where they would say, hey, nobody's wearing that number?

727
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: Are you looking at the roster? Can't looking at a

728
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: photo of him? And I would consider that, I say,

729
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: I bet that big for the Jets. People will tell

730
00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: you that Darrell Rivas authored like, statistically like one to

731
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: three of the best cornerback seasons ever in the history

732
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: of the game, especially like in modern day. Yeah, I

733
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: remember that one season where he faced all the best

734
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: receivers and they them all down. And then remember that

735
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: it's the New York Jets, and other than Joe Namath,

736
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: they don't have a lot to hang there at Broadway Joe,

737
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: And then yeah, who who's He's the best player in

738
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: recent Jets history. I mean, Wayne Cribet, what else you got,

739
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: art guest? I know how long ago is that? I

740
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: don't know? Yeah, I mean you are alive. I don't

741
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: think Darrell Reeves has got to be the best Jets

742
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: player in the last ten fifteen years. Yeah, probably sway.

743
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Jets Break. All right, let's let's

744
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: let's move on. Let's go with the final name. I

745
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: want to throw out, Lance Dunbar. He moved on to wait, wait,

746
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: let me painting. How's that a question? Well, it's the

747
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: reason it's a question is because last year you had

748
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: Lance Dunbar, who was your third down back. He was

749
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: a guy that was kind of your gadget guy. He

750
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: could return some kicks, like, he had some different roles

751
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: that he played for this team. And so now he's gone,

752
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna fill those roles. And again I'm

753
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: not saying that he was an all world player, but

754
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: it was a role that the Cowboys will will fill

755
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: with I guess other players. It was a role that

756
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys like forced into their game plan because they

757
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: felt weird about how many running backs they had. Like

758
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, when he tore his knee, up. He

759
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: was actually kind of he was killing it. I mean

760
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: he was on pace for like a boatload of touches.

761
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: He was he was a receiver, he was running it.

762
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: And then they drafted Ezekiel Elliott and bye bye. I

763
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: mean it just didn't make sense and I never understood why.

764
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean it felt so forced. And again for the

765
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: fifth time, I really like Lance. He was a great guy,

766
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: Like all these guys are. I love it. All of

767
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: these players were super nice dudes. But you spend a

768
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: top five pick on a running back, I mean, it

769
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: never made sense to me. And he's another guy who

770
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: had a hard time stay unhealthy. I read on my

771
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: phone during the break that he's going to start the

772
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: season on pup for the Rams. So snake snake bitten

773
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: career for him. I wish, you know, I hope for

774
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: the best for him, but there was no spot for

775
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: him in this offense. You know, when when you look

776
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: at people, you know, players throughout their whole career, even

777
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: like going back to high school in college, you know,

778
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: you see certain guys and you go, yeah, I play football.

779
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: You look at you know, really your first thought is

780
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: you play football. I mean you're you look small and

781
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: people the thing that guys that aren't that big are

782
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: gonna get hurt. Well, here's a case of a guy

783
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: that that that does. I mean they're not all Wes

784
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: Welker and Cole Beasley and Danny A. Mendola. I mean

785
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: some short some little guys kind of get hurt a lot,

786
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: just like like the Kellen Moore you know situation when

787
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: you know he's he's a short guy. Well he got

788
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: hurt last year because a guy fell on his foot.

789
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: I mean that happens a lot. But when you're not

790
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: that big and your hands aren't that big to get

791
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: knocked out of your hands, I mean sometimes this game

792
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: has meant for big players. Now there are exceptions to

793
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: the rule, and some of them are really really good.

794
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: We'll see if Ryan Switzer can be that guy. Right now,

795
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: he's been banged up, so it doesn't work for everyone.

796
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: And Landstombar, to me is one of those guys that

797
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: if if you, I mean, I'll never forget that play

798
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: in a preseason game against Arizona, probably thirteen three years ago,

799
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: four years ago, but one play just described his entire career.

800
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: He caught the ball into the flat, good receiver gets

801
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: himselves open in space, he can fly forty yards down

802
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: the field. Then he gets hit and he fumbled and

803
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: then he got hurt all in the same play. Wow,

804
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: If you don't touch him, he's pretty good. If he

805
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: gets hit, he might fumble and he might get hurt

806
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: or both. Not good for a football player, right, just

807
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: saying he was good when no one hit him. He

808
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: would be sitting at his locker room and I would

809
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: be walking by. He's like, man, I'm so tired. I'm

810
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: like from what like being in the hot top like no,

811
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: and he was a great guy. But I think I mean,

812
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: you know what, I love that about the NFL though,

813
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: Like Lance Dunbar's like one of the greatest players in

814
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: the history of North Texas football, Like he was the

815
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: man in college. And that's the NFL. Though. Everybody's great

816
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yep. Everybody's fast, everybody's big, everybody's strong. Well,

817
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 1: not everybody's big, but most guys are big. It gets

818
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: to your point, right, so you're not You're not. You're

819
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: not gonna beat anybody just because you got more, just

820
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: you got more athletic ability, you got more god given talent.

821
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: Like it's it's just everybody's that good, right, But at

822
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: least same story with Morris Claver And we were just

823
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: talking about him, the differences. When Morris was on the field,

824
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: he was making big plays or plays. I definitely helped

825
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: the team here and there. I mean he would to

826
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: me he was a great player when he was on

827
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: the field certain occasions, certain occasions, but get what he

828
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: did at your point. I mean, I'm the I'm the

829
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: captain of the Mo cheerleading club. But he I can't

830
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: go great. I can say his thing. I mean, I

831
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: like his thing was, you know, look at look at

832
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: the best cornerback to ever play ever? Yeah, Deon? What

833
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: did Deon have other than great athletic ability? What did

834
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: Deon have more than anybody in life? Swag? Confidence? That's

835
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: what Mo missed, I think, And and it was hard

836
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: for him, you know, because he was getting hurt and

837
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: then I think he was He would get beat during

838
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: a game and it was hard for him to recover.

839
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: You say, those corners supposed to have bad memories. He

840
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: didn't have a bad memory. He would kind of let

841
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: those things kind of get with them. And so I

842
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: think confidence always was an issue with him, even though

843
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: he says it was, and I think I would art

844
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: he it seemed, and last year it seemed like he

845
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: had it. He had confidence. He did John with Dez

846
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: He I mean the airplane thing. I love that incomplete,

847
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: but I called it the airplane whatever. But then he

848
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: got hurt again, and that probably, yeah, probably had an effect. Honestly,

849
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Speaker 1: what I just say, I said, they're gonna be days

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Speaker 1: and Beefy TET. What up, gents, lady? How are you

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Speaker 1: all doing doing well? I don't know if you to

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Speaker 1: but I was just watching on Twitter as it pertained

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Speaker 1: to the comments made about Dez Bryant and Blaze Pizza

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Speaker 1: He said, well, he wasn't going to go there anymore.

962
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Speaker 1: And how this turned into some big political statement of well,

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Speaker 1: he'll boycott a pizza place over the national anthem. This

964
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Speaker 1: is getting old, guys, Like, this is getting really old

965
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Speaker 1: where we're losing the essence of what football is. It's fun, right,

966
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Speaker 1: I mean there's a time and place for all these things.

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Speaker 1: But when something as small as leaving a tip and

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Speaker 1: it pertaining to someone not being fan. We're getting way

973
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Speaker 1: out of bounds now, and so as one as you

974
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Speaker 1: guys to comment on it, because now morning ever, I'm

975
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Speaker 1: starting to understand why some of these athletes remain quiet

976
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Speaker 1: as it pertains of certain issues, because they're getting ridiculed

977
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Speaker 1: So why would I take as a political stance on

979
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Speaker 1: certain things knowing that the ridicule was in some cases

980
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Speaker 1: going to outweigh the good it comes out of it.

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Speaker 1: I just want you guys for comment on that. All right,

982
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Speaker 1: Thanks for the call. Yeah, did y'all see this this morning.

983
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Speaker 1: I did not see it. So Daz had a little

984
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Speaker 1: back and forth at a Blaze Blaze. I'd heard about that. Yes,

985
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Speaker 1: so he's right, I'm not gonna eat at that Blaze

986
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Speaker 1: pizza anymore. Didn't even say he wouldn't eat Blaze pizza anymore,

987
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Speaker 1: just not at that last And I thought it was

988
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Speaker 1: kind of tongue in cheek, very tongue in cheek. It

989
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Speaker 1: was a joke. And then some I don't even had

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Speaker 1: those laughing emojis, right, one of the one of a

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Speaker 1: blog I don't like a you know what, I don't

992
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Speaker 1: even remember what it's called. It wasn't PFT, but you know,

993
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Speaker 1: one of those types of things was like Dez Bryant

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Speaker 1: his boy boycotting a eats a chain because of the

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Speaker 1: and then it turned into this whole thing. And then

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Speaker 1: I saw Jamel Hill for sure. I don't know if

997
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Speaker 1: anybody else picked up on it, but she was like, oh,

998
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Speaker 1: so you'll boycott where you eat pizza, but you're not

999
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Speaker 1: going to take a stand for you know, civil rights

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Speaker 1: or whatever because of what Deaz said about the national

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Speaker 1: anthem a week ago. And my response, you know, he

1002
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Speaker 1: was asking us to comment on it is. You know,

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Speaker 1: nobody loves Twitter more than I do. I live on

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1006
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Speaker 1: people get lost in. You know, it's amazing when you

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Speaker 1: take a step back and realize, like how different the

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1011
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1014
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Speaker 1: and these types of things happen, And yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: the caller is absolutely right. I totally understand why athletes,

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1019
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Speaker 1: what I can and can't say without it turning into

1020
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Speaker 1: a national story. So yeah, I absolutely get it, although

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Speaker 1: but I would argue for people like us and probably

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1023
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Speaker 1: with this that you know, I don't even think that

1025
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Speaker 1: permeates out fully into the culture the way that people

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Speaker 1: think it does, you know, and that Dez probably thinks

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Speaker 1: it does, like Deaz is probably frustrated. I doubt eighty

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Speaker 1: five percent of people even realize that that's a story

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Speaker 1: because eighty five percent of people have better stuff to

1030
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Speaker 1: do than constantly be reading Twitter. So it's stupid and

1031
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: overblown ninety five percent of the time. And my advice

1032
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Speaker 1: to Death and any fan that's annoyed by it is

1033
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Speaker 1: just pay less attention to it. That just makes me

1034
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Speaker 1: really upset. Like, like you said, I agree with you,

1035
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Speaker 1: it's so dumb. And then when you sit back and

1036
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Speaker 1: look at everything else that's going on around the world

1037
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Speaker 1: and outside of football, what are you doing, Like why

1038
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Speaker 1: would you make something like this such a big deal

1039
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Speaker 1: It's dumb. Find something else better to do than kind

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1042
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1044
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1045
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Speaker 1: is that it's just there is when you're a professional athlete,

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1047
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1050
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1051
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1052
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1053
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1054
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00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: there's something to be said for that. But in this

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Speaker 1: day and age, it's our industry is in trouble, you know,

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00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean the media industry. Yeah, sorry, generate traffic. I

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00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: don't think there's like this agenda like, oh, how can

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00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: we how can we put Dez in hot water over this?

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00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: It's Dez Bryant is on that short list of names.

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00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: That's going to generate traffic no matter what he does.

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00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: And to be fair, when Dez does something like go

1066
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: to Walmart at two am and buy PlayStations for a

1067
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: bunch of people, that goes viral too. I mean, whatever

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00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: he people are, his name's involved. People gravitate toward that

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00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: name and then the p and when you put it

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00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: out on Twitter, the problem is you're exposing it to

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00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: ten million different viewpoints and ideas. Whether they're fair or

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00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: based in rational logic or not, they're out there. And

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00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: then all it takes is Dez to see that, and

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00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: then he reacts to it, and then it becomes a

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00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: whole another thing, and it folds in on itself, and

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00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: it happens time and time again. I would certainly get

1077
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: frustrated by if I were a player, I completely understand it.

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00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: But that's just the nature of the game, really, and

1079
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: that's in, you know, on a much smaller scale. Obviously

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Speaker 1: I'm not Dez Bryant, but I mean we do we

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00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: see some of that. You know, stuff we say on

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00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: this show can get aggregated by a blog or you know,

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00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: people can call us nasty names on Twitter or some

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00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: message board or whatever. And in my it can be difficult,

1085
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: but just tune that stuff out, man, I mean, it's

1086
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: it's not even worth your time. And you're gonna plan

1087
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: that world, you have to accept that that's a part

1088
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: of that world. And and fans for that matter too.

1089
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: Like my biggest pet peeve with fans no offense to

1090
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: anybody listening, is like, do you see what Stephen A.

1091
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: Smith said about the Cowboys today? I hate that guy.

1092
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, turn it off. This guy just did it.

1093
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: This guy, the guy that can just called the guy.

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00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, one of our best fans and one

1095
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: of our most loyal listeners. But honestly, don't call up

1096
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: here and say that you're upset up was something and

1097
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: think it's stupid and all that, but then but then

1098
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: ask about it, comment about it, and now we've been

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00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: talking about it. I just read what the what you

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00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: just caught up on? What the girl said, I mean,

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00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill or whatever, that's a problem. I mean she

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00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: said she what she wrote was you won't take a stand.

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00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: You know, she said, you'll take a stand on that,

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00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: but you won't take a stand dot dot dot never mind.

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00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: And then to come back later and say I was

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00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: just joking. There are ways to share on Twitter and

1107
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: text message that you're joking. You didn't do that until

1108
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: there was a backlash a little bit, until he's fired

1109
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: back and you're like, I'm joking. Then she says, there's

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00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: a there's a truth in every joke, though, what are

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00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: you saying? I don't know. I just I feel like

1112
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: and that's instigated it a little bit more. And the

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00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: national anthem, I mean, the national anthem thing is a

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00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: conversation worth having and a serious issue in my opinion,

1115
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: And if you know, Dez can decide what he wants

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00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: to say about it or what he wants to do

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00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: about it, and that's fine, but like, don't don't force

1118
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: that conversation on him through some Twitter bs in my opinion,

1119
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: And it's it's too it's too real and serious of

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00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: an issue to be flippant about it. And I'll say this,

1121
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna speak for a lot of people,

1122
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: but I know this. You can stand for the national anthem,

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00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: put your right hand or across your heart, and because

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00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: you feel strongly about the country you live in and

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00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: the rights that you have, that doesn't mean that you

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00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: don't disagree with what the president and and things that

1127
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: are going going on. It's two different things. You don't

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00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: it's not just black and white. Literally to just sit

1129
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: there and say, well, you're not standing so then you

1130
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: must you must approve of what's going on. That's not

1131
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: true at all. And you, I mean des Brian has

1132
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: a boatload of money. You don't know what causes he's

1133
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: giving money to or what he's doing with his own life.

1134
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean, neither do I for that matter. I'm just

1135
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: saying it's it's flipping and stupid and going back to

1136
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: the earlier point, it's take it from me. It's it's

1137
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: pretty easy to tune out the stupid stuff that you

1138
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: don't want to see. It's not worth getting worked up

1139
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: about from a fan's perspective. In my opinion, somebody has

1140
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: a stupid opinion, turn it off, ignore it, come find

1141
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: a smart opinion, like on Cowboy's Break. I will say

1142
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: this too, And we talked. I had this conversation the

1143
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: other day. Not everybody should be a spokesperson. I know

1144
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: sometimes people try to paint they want to say all

1145
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: athletes should be willing to use their platform. Guess what,

1146
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: I don't want every athlete using their platform to speak

1147
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: for me and the issues that I care about, because

1148
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: if they're educated on them, if they aren't, um, if

1149
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: they aren't articular enough in order to be able to

1150
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: really express what's going on and the problems that are

1151
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: going on and to be able to bring some some

1152
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: light to it in a in a way that's actually

1153
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: going to create change, then I prefer they just be quiet. Right.

1154
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: It's just like the same as in general society. I

1155
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: don't want everybody being the person that's stepping up and

1156
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: giving in an opinion about whatever that topic is. If

1157
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: you're educated, great, and if you want to do that, great.

1158
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: I don't think we should put make situations where we

1159
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: try to force athletes, particularly to use the platform that

1160
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: they have in order to espouse whatever. We'll talk about.

1161
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: What number one athlete probably of all time, UM, didn't

1162
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: really do that. No, I mean you can say Muhammad

1163
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: Ali was, but I don't. I don't. You must be

1164
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: talking about Michael Joe Well, I think, yeah, I mean,

1165
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: are you wearing all these I'm actually I'm wearing Jordan's

1166
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: right now for whatever that I think Michael, I mean,

1167
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: he's yeah, but you can say that about Jordan, But

1168
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: I know very much. I understand. I understand that. I

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00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: think where we are right now, I think I think

1170
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan probably probably affected more people. Um maybe now

1171
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: when you say affect it, that's where I made different.

1172
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah we don't need to have Yeah we don't have that.

1173
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: That's a whole different discussion. But whether it's one, whether

1174
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: it's too Michael. But Michael Jordan did it a different way, right,

1175
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: he didn't, and he had a right to do that.

1176
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: That's kind of my point is if you don't, if

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00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: you don't feel comfortable that you understand all the issues

1178
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: and that you have the right way to be able

1179
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: to talk about them, don't talk about it. And if

1180
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: you do, in the case of Muhammad Ali, and you

1181
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: feel passionate about it, go talk about it. Right. I

1182
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with players one way or the other.

1183
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: If you choose it, that's the way you want to go. Great.

1184
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: If you choose that's the way you don't want to go,

1185
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: that's also okay. If you don't feel like you're educated

1186
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: enough or already enough to be able to have that discussion. Now,

1187
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: the face of the franchise here for about ten years

1188
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: didn't do that. Romo didn't do that. You know, Elma

1189
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: didn't didn't go out and do things in the community

1190
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: as much as as other as other players did. He

1191
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: had obviously had a platform to do it. It's just

1192
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: not what he chose to do, and he got ridiculed

1193
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: for it. He still probably does, but that's kind of

1194
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: what he did. It's not that he didn't do things

1195
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: in the community. He didn't have the same kind of

1196
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: platforms and he didn't have the same kind of foundations

1197
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: and stuff like that as you see like Jason witten

1198
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: Brand and Carr things like that as Andrew. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's I think it's

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00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: every player's decision to write. Every player has the right

1201
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: to be able to decide what they choose to do

1202
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: or not choose to do. All right, we appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys joined us. We are back to actually we're back

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Speaker 1: on Monday tomorrow. We'll have a joint show. Check the

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00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 1: website for more information on that. We'll have a joint

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Speaker 1: show between the shows tomorrow afternoon. Until then for Nick

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Speaker 1: even Amber Garcia, Dave helm and I'm Derek Eagleton. This

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Speaker 1: has been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Radio.

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.