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Speaker 1: Full Circle is an iheartwomen's sports production and partnership with

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Speaker 1: The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, y'all,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to another episode of the Full Circle Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mariah. I'm here with my girl Lexi. Lexi, how

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Speaker 2: you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good. You got a great weekend of women's hoops.

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Speaker 1: I know for those who are just now tuning in,

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Speaker 1: me and Lexi have like so much to get into today.

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Speaker 1: So if this is your first impression of us.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you're welcome. Up, You're welcome, Lexi.

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Speaker 1: First starters, give us your analysis of the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're going to first shout out do women's basketball

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Speaker 3: for making it to the sweet sixteen. Like I knew

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Speaker 3: they would. They had a very interesting game against Oregon,

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Speaker 3: very low scoring like they typically have, but their defense

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Speaker 3: was insane and that's their bread and butter, is their defense.

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Speaker 3: So I'm really happy that they were able to hang

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Speaker 3: their hat on that and get to the round of sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Who else had a fun little game this weekend? I

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Speaker 3: mean all the games. Like I know, last episode I

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Speaker 3: said that these first weekend games can be unwatchable at times.

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Speaker 3: This probably has been like the most competitive top to

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Speaker 3: bottom first weekend games I've seen in a while, So

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Speaker 3: that was really exciting for me to watch and seeing

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Speaker 3: the talent being spread out more and I think that's

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Speaker 3: been fun. My TCU team made it to the Sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 2: You only got a couple more games to be right.

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Speaker 3: Man, None, No, they're going all the way to the

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Speaker 3: final four, right, I'm telling you. I'm telling you they

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Speaker 3: are special. Shout outs to Kansas State, Oh Miss with

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Speaker 3: the upsets on the road too. It's hard to upset

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Speaker 3: teams in the tournament at their home court, so shout

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Speaker 3: out to them. The team that I was most impressed

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Speaker 3: with though this weekend was probably Tennessee though. They're really

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Speaker 3: fun to watch. They shoot a lot of threes, and

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Speaker 3: they just don't like the Tennessee teams that we grew

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Speaker 3: everything is like it's yes, it's very SEC, but like

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Speaker 3: Tennessee used to be, like they were like like the

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Speaker 3: bougie team in the SEC, like the QTc team, and

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Speaker 3: now they're like just running through everybody and they're really exciting.

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Speaker 3: They pressed full court the entire game, which I haven't

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Speaker 3: seen that in a college team. In a minute, I

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Speaker 3: think they forced Ohio State in the twenty three turnovers

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Speaker 3: and then they went ten for thirty four from three.

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Speaker 3: So overall, top to bottom, Tennessee looked the most impressive

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Speaker 3: to me visually. So it was a great weekend. It's

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Speaker 3: been really it's been a great weekend of women's hoops.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sorry to the men's tournament that is very

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Speaker 3: boring right now because it is. It's so boring. There's

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Speaker 3: just no there was no crazy upsets. There's I think

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Speaker 3: there was like one or two buzzer beaters, so shout

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Speaker 3: out to the women holding it down.

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Speaker 2: I peeked in and then I went and watched Temptations.

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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, this year, not this year. It's

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Speaker 3: just we always talk about the state of men's college basketball.

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Speaker 3: It's just in shambles at the moment. So I'm hoping

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Speaker 3: love men's college basketball. The tournament is supposed to be

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Speaker 3: the most exciting time of the year, especially in men's

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Speaker 3: the women are holding it down, and there's actually games

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Speaker 3: going on right as we're recording. Texas is beating the

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Speaker 3: out of Michigan State. So congrats to them. And I'm

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Speaker 3: going to the USC game tonight. Oh that's the BET Awards,

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Speaker 3: I beat, Mariah. That is not how I wanted to

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Speaker 3: segue into this part of the episode. But here we are.

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Speaker 3: We're here now, We're here now, And yeah, I will

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Speaker 3: Tom pressed because I guess that's what they're doing out

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Speaker 3: So Mariah, can you please for people that are lost

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Speaker 3: about that statement, can we please provide some context to

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Speaker 3: our listeners to why you? Of course, the USC women's

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Speaker 2: Bt okay, So if you guys haven't heard already.

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Speaker 1: Holli Row, who is a longtime ESPN sideline reporter, like well,

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Speaker 1: reporting on a USC basketball game this weekend and Juju

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Speaker 1: Watkins was playing. She's talking about how Juju is such

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Speaker 3: Which is the oh, the community, all of that.

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Speaker 1: and that Juju is a cultural icon. Three flags there

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Speaker 1: the BET Awards mentioned girl. Why can't it be the

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Speaker 1: VMA's number two, that community mention and number three the

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Speaker 3: Come on, Holly, it was, and you know, Holly is

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Speaker 3: my girl. Holly has been such an avid supporter of

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Speaker 3: no malicious intent behind that. I hope we want to

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Speaker 3: think Holly made any like wasn't trying to be like

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Speaker 3: the history of having some mishaps with things that she says,

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Speaker 3: being a little bit tone deaf at times. And for us,

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Speaker 3: one of those times and Holly, we love you, we

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Speaker 3: love you down Holly, but like you cannot say things

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Speaker 3: Like why does it have to be this plerson brings

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Speaker 3: Like why is everybody having to be categorized? And it

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Speaker 3: atmospheres I live in, I've only seen this happen in

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Speaker 3: can't we just talk about basketball because y'all still learn

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Speaker 3: not talking about basketball, you're talking about everything else And

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Speaker 3: Like as the world quickly found out, you know, we

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Speaker 3: So she's actually been able to escape these weird, microaggressive conversations,

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Speaker 3: We're not allowing that because we saw what happened when

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Speaker 3: into something very nasty. We can't allow that to happen again.

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Speaker 2: What I will say is we do.

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Speaker 1: This does come up with people in sports in general

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Speaker 1: trying to be divisive when it comes to audiences. For example,

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Speaker 1: the first thing that pops into I had is in

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Speaker 1: the NBA the Celtics fan bases face like what assume

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Speaker 1: for them to be like? That comes up a lot,

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Speaker 1: I think because people like controversy in sports. My thing

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Speaker 1: with Hally's particular comment is just you can't ignore how

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Speaker 1: microaggressive it was. Because I'm not running around comparing stuff

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Speaker 1: to the BT Awards, like I'm a black person. I

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Speaker 1: don't think about the BAT Awards that that was bad.

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Speaker 1: I think that in part it's because people, Oh, we're

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah. But I think the BT Awards thing.

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Speaker 1: Is what makes it unescapable because it's not like black

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Speaker 1: people have been mad at the BT Awards for the

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Speaker 1: last time. That's what I was talking about.

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Speaker 3: We don't even like the BT Awards, no war, because

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Speaker 3: not even are they now They're a mess.

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Speaker 2: Right, So I was like, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think Holly just got a little too comfortable, you

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Speaker 1: like you were saying, it takes away from anything and

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Speaker 1: everything else that happen during the game, because that was

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Speaker 3: And the awkward silence following that statement was so loud.

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Speaker 3: heard that, and they were like, oh yeah, well where

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Speaker 3: do we go from here? So what now, Holly? What now?

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Speaker 1: I've eaten my words one or two or three seven times,

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Speaker 1: She's I've never seen her be anything but an ally,

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Speaker 2: To this whole situation. It should. I honestly think it's funny.

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Speaker 3: No, it was. It was hilarious. But I was like,

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Speaker 3: I was thinking back from when Dion Sanders and all

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Speaker 3: said the exact same comment about the Colorado football games

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Speaker 3: that it looked like the BET Awards. I don't know

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Speaker 2: Like, but also the other words show that other remy.

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Speaker 3: Are there any other mass gatherings of black people outside

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Speaker 3: Is the only place that black people gather.

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Speaker 1: Is that I'm trying to think of stereotypically where a

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Speaker 1: And the first thing that poppup my head is so

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, right, why is it so shocking that.

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Speaker 3: They're exactly where they should be at sporting events? But

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Speaker 3: I was like, now that that's come up twice, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: that's what y'all think of us just anytime any black

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Speaker 3: people of any type of anything, whatever celebrity status, sach area,

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Speaker 3: we're at the BT.

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Speaker 1: Awards, beyond a JZ, don't even go to the BET.

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Speaker 3: Awards, Hello, talk about it. So, okay, we love you

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Speaker 3: Holley though. We love you Holly though, but watch.

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Speaker 1: The mouth while we're being controversial and talking about like

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Speaker 1: divisive conversation in women's basketball. I'm curious to hear what

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Speaker 1: you thought about Cam Newton's comments about ratings.

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Speaker 3: Ravel my gosh, you know it's so crazy. Literally was

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Speaker 3: just talking to my mom on the phone about exactly

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Speaker 3: what he said. I hadn't even seen that clip yet

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Speaker 3: when I said it to you, I had like literally

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Speaker 3: the clip, Cam Newton on his podcast was talking about

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Speaker 2: That's what I think. I've seen a villain.

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Speaker 2: Because I don't envy that either.

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Speaker 3: But also saying that, I'm just like Kim New, how

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Speaker 1: Yeah, outside of that, it's like part of the problem

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Speaker 2: That is nothing for the game.

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Speaker 1: I agree that rivalries bring ratings and sports. That's the

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Speaker 1: So rivalries do bring ratings, but there are still rivalries

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Speaker 2: Why aren't you talking about that?

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Speaker 3: Juju did have top five teams the entire season. That is, right,

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Speaker 3: and now it's what good girl, bad girl? No, how

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Speaker 1: But you know what, hear me out, LEXI, let me

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Speaker 1: follow me here, Okay, when I'm thinking about the good

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Speaker 2: What made Angelies a bad girl?

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Speaker 1: Quote unquote was this which I wouldn't even qualify as

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Speaker 2: This is really just whatever.

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Speaker 3: But if you want to call literally John Cena, can

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Speaker 2: But then we have this year.

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Speaker 1: When I think of the trash talkers that are left,

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Speaker 1: I think of Haley Vanlyth. She's a trash hocker, right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so why why aren't they bad girls? Right?

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Speaker 1: But but Juju is more chill, and you know, she

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Speaker 3: Why can't pay right? Why can't you do girl exactly exactly?

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Speaker 3: What are we doing well?

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Speaker 3: Which even this good girl bad girl thing like that

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Speaker 1: I took that as he was saying that there's not

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Speaker 1: polariz Why can't kim Oki be the villain coach? I

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Speaker 2: It's still entertaining.

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Speaker 3: It's still entertaining. The games have been incredible. This season

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Speaker 1: Lexi, I have to ask you why when it comes

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Speaker 3: The energy the lack of energy for South Carolina. I mean,

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Speaker 3: face of South Carolina. And then I think Asia Wilson

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Speaker 3: is I think Asian Wilson is still also the face

436
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Speaker 3: of South Carolina.

437
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 1: Right and same with Asia, Like you don't really see

438
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: that with her, Like people don't get bored with her

439
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: being great. I think I don't know who you're referring

440
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 1: to or you're offering it in the NBA Jason Tatum,

441
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: because that's a whole different thing because Jason Tatum talking.

442
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Speaker 2: About they're boring, like not coming at y'all. But I'm just.

443
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 3: Saying vero much, Jason Tatum, I actually really like it.

444
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Speaker 2: That's a whole conversation for a whole other day.

445
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Speaker 1: But I think that like what people consider to be

446
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: boring and an athlete is so unfair.

447
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 3: Like so unfair. Okay, Sorry, I'm really good and unproblematic

448
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: and I love playing basketball. Sorry, I'm that bores y'all.

449
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: Like, I'm sorry you want to drag Anthony Edwards it

450
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: being in the face of the NBA, even though he

451
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: touched down and post a homophobic story. Then forgot about

452
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Speaker 1: seventeen I forgot gotten seventeen women pregnant this year, always

453
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: in trouble, always get it fine for cussing.

454
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Speaker 2: I don't got a problem with aunt.

455
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Speaker 1: Go dogs, But like my problem is is, like, so

456
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Speaker 1: you want to make him the face of and be

457
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,719
Speaker 1: like cool, everyone's more drawn to that.

458
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum hasn't done nothing but be great. And when

459
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 3: he said when unproblematic, he's marketable as hell, He's won championships,

460
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 3: stays out of trouble. It's respectful any place for like

461
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 3: one of the most historic iconic franchises in the universe

462
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: of sports. So yeah, we are in like a never

463
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: ending moving of goalposts. Like that's what I've I've boiled

464
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 3: it down to that, like goalposts just get moved constantly

465
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,239
Speaker 3: and you just kind of have to adapt to that

466
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Speaker 3: and figure it out. But I mean, even them giving

467
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: South Carolina the last number one seed, it's just like wow, why.

468
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

469
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Speaker 3: And I hate that they don't got to explain. I

470
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Speaker 3: mean they're like, oh, this, this is the resume, the

471
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: strength of schedule, and da da da da. But okay,

472
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: like at the end of the day, like the committee,

473
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 3: y'all are not robots. Y'all can put anybody wherever y'all want, honestly,

474
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Speaker 3: So the fact that y'all fixed y'all's little hands when

475
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 3: you were writing out the bracket and you made it

476
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 3: South Caroline of the last one seed is crazy.

477
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Speaker 1: So do you think that the nobody, no one's bigger

478
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Speaker 1: than the program.

479
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Speaker 2: School slash teams?

480
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Speaker 1: Like what would you what do you think is better

481
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Speaker 1: being a note? Like I guess it depends on the

482
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Speaker 1: school and the team that you're working with, But I

483
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Speaker 1: can't really figure out what would work better because it's

484
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Speaker 1: like it does kind of work when there is a

485
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Speaker 1: face for ratings wise, but as far as winning, Dawn

486
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: has proved that the nobody's bigger than the program thing

487
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: is working. As far as whin, yeah, because Caitlyn didn't win,

488
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Speaker 1: I'm an angel one.

489
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Speaker 3: But yeah for me now, like I don't really know

490
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 3: now because the NIL stuff has just changed everything. People

491
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 3: are prioritizing different things and that's okay. These are the

492
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 3: decisions you make when you're a pro, though, like I

493
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 3: want to win now or do I want to get

494
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: paid now? Or do I want to win now and

495
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 3: then hopefully when I win, I'll get paid later. Like

496
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 3: you weren't, that's not what you were thinking about in

497
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 3: college five years ago. You were like where can I win?

498
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: Where can I get the most visibility so I can

499
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Speaker 3: make it to the next level, Or if you're not

500
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Speaker 3: interested in being a pro, where can I go to

501
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Speaker 3: get the best education I can and be in a

502
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: good environment for my future. There's like so many different

503
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Speaker 3: things now moving parts and people deciding on what schools

504
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: are going to and what's what they're valuing while they're there.

505
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 3: So honestly, like, I don't have an answer for that,

506
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: and you know, I can't even name the I can't

507
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 3: even name who won the national championship five years ago, honestly, Like, yeah,

508
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 3: I think that winning is important. Yes, you want to

509
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Speaker 3: have winners on your team, but at the end of

510
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: the day, only one team can win. So when you're

511
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: putting things in prioritization, what you're prioritizing, like, yeah, we're

512
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 3: going to see more players prioritize themselves, and I think

513
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Speaker 3: that's not good for the whole state of college as

514
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Speaker 3: a whole. But I'm never gonna be mad at these

515
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 3: players finally getting what they deserve because of all the

516
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 3: money that the NCAA has made of our blood, sweat

517
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Speaker 3: and tears.

518
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Speaker 1: Fair I mean, it's it's children in college having to

519
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: make professional decisions. Like they're making the decisions you're making,

520
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: which is really concerning, but it's.

521
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Speaker 3: Crazy, Like and I struggle with making these decisions now

522
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: I'm thirty, like these girls are eighteen and nineteen. I mean,

523
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Speaker 3: I think we always are talking about Haley van Litt

524
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Speaker 3: because like she's like she's going to be like the

525
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Speaker 3: like the case study of like nil gone horrible and

526
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: then back right, Like what that process looks like for

527
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Speaker 3: a player, like a really really good player so you know,

528
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Speaker 3: her being able to find her way after the fact.

529
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Speaker 3: Like I think, yes, that COVID year saved her because

530
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Speaker 3: if last year was her last year, she would have

531
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Speaker 3: been out shit out of luck.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point.

533
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Speaker 3: So I'm happy that she had that addition year to

534
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Speaker 3: get her her career back on track because she deserved that.

535
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 3: But that's not going to be the case. COVID year

536
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: is over, and I think people forgot about that too.

537
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Speaker 3: Everybody who was in school at that time got in

538
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 3: a whole extra year of college, so it kind of

539
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 3: like threw everything off office tracks a little bit. But

540
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: now like, okay, everyone's back to playing their fourth season

541
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: four years of college. This transferring has gotten out of

542
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 3: freaking control, and like, I don't know what it's going

543
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 3: to look like now because like now we're done with

544
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 3: the five year players. So we also have never seen

545
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 3: that before, five players getting five whole seasons. Because I

546
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 3: know COVID it cut the season short, but ninety nine

547
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: percent of the teams their seasons were over by the

548
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: time COVID happened. Y'all wasn't making the tournament. Y'all wasn't

549
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 3: y'all was gonna lose first round and y'all, conference, your

550
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: season was done. So yes, I feel I felt horrible

551
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 3: for those players that really had a chance to win

552
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: a national championship or win a conference championship and that

553
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: got cut short. Absolutely feel bad for them, but the

554
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: season was over. So that extra year to me, I

555
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: was like, y'all, y'all looked out with that one, because y'all,

556
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: y'all played an entire season of basketball before COVID hit.

557
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: Well, my sister was getting recruited last year, and it

558
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: was like, as far as recruiting goes for incoming freshmen.

559
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: They kind of got screwed with.

560
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 3: Schools being my sister, Why want not just get.

561
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Speaker 1: Somebody out of the portal or keep a senior we

562
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Speaker 1: already have who already knows our system, Yeah, and get

563
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: a freshman and group like that doesn't even make any.

564
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Speaker 3: Sense, I mean, And it's trickling down now too, like

565
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: even now without even without the COVID year, now, like

566
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: it's just trickling down. Like I feel so bad for

567
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: the high school transfer portal. I feel so bad for

568
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: high school kids. And now even with them possibly changing

569
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: the junior college rule and eligibility stuff, like what do

570
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: they want these high school kids to do. Yeah, like

571
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 3: and even for us, like our tournament, yeah, we typically

572
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 3: have like our Sweet sixteen elite eate are typically from

573
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: like the Power five conferences. Like that's not new in

574
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: women's basketball, but I'm pretty sure I saw grab today

575
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: that said the men they only have representation from four conferences,

576
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: so they're like the Cinderella era is over, which I

577
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 3: mean technically like Cinderella's is like a rare thing, Like

578
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: you're not supposed to have a lot of Cinderellas anyway,

579
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: because that's why they call them Cinderellas, because they're not supposed.

580
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Speaker 2: To be there exactly.

581
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Speaker 3: But I mean it's changing the landscape of everything. Like

582
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: we said in our last episode with Elizabeth, was how

583
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: people are going to start gravitating to these four conferences

584
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: and these middle mid major, low major schools are going

585
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: to become like pipelines like the new prep schools.

586
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Speaker 1: We have a lot to get into. So I'm gonna

587
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: segue a little bit because I have to hear your

588
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: thoughts on the top ten the Fox Sports on top

589
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, all time women's college basketball players. I'm

590
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: going to read the list for our audience before you

591
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Speaker 1: give your thoughts. Just for people who are listening who

592
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Speaker 1: haven't seen the list quite yet, it's a doozy So okay,

593
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Speaker 1: that ten, they've got Lynette Woodard.

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Speaker 3: Nine, nine.

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Speaker 1: Sorry they have Asians, all right. I hadn't really seen

596
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: behind beyond the top five. In the ninth spot they

597
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: have Asia Wilson, and the eighth spot they have Kandice Parker,

598
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Speaker 1: seventh and pretty grinds.

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Speaker 3: It gets worse, guys, it gets worse six maya more.

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Speaker 3: Why come the fifth.

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Speaker 1: Jamik Holds Cloud and fourth Cheryl Miller and third Diana Tarassi,

602
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: in second Caitlyn Clark and at first Breonna Stewart.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me just let's start with this. All ten

604
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: of those players are deserving to be in conversations of

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Speaker 3: some of the best college basketball players that we've ever seen. Okay,

606
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna start there. There's a lot of those. It's

607
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Speaker 3: not just ten of them.

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Speaker 2: You go, like, see, because when we get clipped, they

609
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: not including that.

610
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not including that. So when they go watch it,

611
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: we can be like, no, they're all so amazing and whatever,

612
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: like there was no this. So I feel about lists.

613
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: They're dumb. They're stupid, and they're only made to get

614
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: responses and reactions and bickering from people. And that's exactly

615
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: what Fox. When the heit When was the last time

616
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: they posted anything women's basketball related, let alone giving us

617
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: an entire top ten women's college basketball players list in

618
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: the middle of the NCAA tournament. All these amazing things

619
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Speaker 3: happening within the tournament of current players, and this is

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Speaker 3: what you decide to drop in the middle of March madness. Fox,

621
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Speaker 3: Please please be serious for once in your life and

622
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: stop trying to make everybody argue about women's college basketball

623
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: every freaking day of the year. Maya More. You know what,

624
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: I could go on a really long tangent about this list.

625
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: Maya More being at six is all I needed to

626
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: see is to see that that list was bullshit.

627
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Speaker 1: Also, I didn't I realized I didn't read the honorable

628
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: mentions Kelsey Plumps, Renna Unascu, Elena del don Shaw swoops,

629
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Speaker 1: and Rebecca Lobo.

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Speaker 3: What is even the point of that?

631
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Speaker 1: My sister like rants about this all the time, and

632
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: I've never said this in public, but can we stop?

633
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: Actually, Like Kayla Clark won a championship, she didn't.

634
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: I down I Love in that top five, Brianna Stewart

635
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: four time champ, Diana Trossi two time national champion, Scheryl

636
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: Miller two time national champ, Smi coles Claw three time

637
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: national champ, and then Myn More at six, two time

638
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: national champion. I feel like to be as one of

639
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 3: the greats, you have to win a national championship, like

640
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: that's the first. Because if we're talking about scoring, then

641
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: you gotta throw Kelsey Mitchell in there because you have

642
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: the other two scores, you have Plumbing in the honorable mention,

643
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 3: and you got Kaitlin in the top five. Where's Kelsey Mitchell.

644
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: That's a good point.

645
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: I'm tired of the Kelsey Mitchell disrespect. I'm gonna say that.

646
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 3: I say it all the time. It's disrespectful.

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Speaker 1: In any men's sport, they would never put somebody who

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Speaker 1: has one not won a championship in the top ten. Ever, No,

649
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: like on any platform, on any list, they would never

650
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: put somebody.

651
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: I will say I might have I might have seen

652
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: a list with like a Jimmer for debt on there.

653
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, I might have made that up. But

654
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: like every time college who like great college anything, Jimmy

655
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: forre Dead is always thrown in there, and now that

656
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about it, like Caitlin Clark is like our

657
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: Jimmer for debt low key, but she's yeah, she won.

658
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: I think I don't even know like what like he

659
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: did in his conference and all that stuff. But like

660
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: when the tournament came around, everyone was like it's Jimmifred

661
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: at time, Like it's time to watch Gimmer in the tournament.

662
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know, like she's top five, top

663
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: ten and something, but like all time, like these are

664
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: one like two three four time national champs that we

665
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: have in this list. These are three four time player

666
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: of the years.

667
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry it's especially since women have more time,

668
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: like and the men's If you go to the NBA,

669
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: you only got one year for men, So I understand

670
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: their listening.

671
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: So their list looks different than a women's or a

672
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 3: women's list.

673
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: If you don't win a championship, that's on you. You

674
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: have plenty of opportunity.

675
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: You're not on the list. I'm sorry. If the list

676
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: was the most influential.

677
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 3: Cool, oh, absolutely best scoring, best starars we've seen, okay,

678
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: but the greatest, not all time. Like I said, this

679
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: is no disrespect to anybody on this list whatsoever. The

680
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: list is extremely valid, but y'all lost me at Mayamore

681
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 3: being number six. Yeah, that's really where y'all lost me, honestly,

682
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: and then I didn't care about the rest of the

683
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: list after that. So I'm like, I know she's been

684
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: gone for a while, guys, but come on now, just

685
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: watch some mind more highlights please. All you need to

686
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 3: watch is them, about a minute of them.

687
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: Do you agree that Stewie is the best though than

688
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: a number one?

689
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: See? But that's the thing about this list, I don't

690
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 3: I don't know what the what the requirements to get

691
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 3: on the list was, because you four time player of

692
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 3: the Year, four time national champion at one, and then

693
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: you have.

694
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: But based on your assessment, like based on what you

695
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: think would make the greatest women's basket college basketball player.

696
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, if I were to like make my own list, yes,

697
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 3: Stewie would be one based on her play, her accolades.

698
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 3: Like she's like consensus one.

699
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: I agree. I think that's the only thing that that

700
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: made sense on the whole thing was.

701
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, like she's consensus number one as far as like

702
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 3: college player. I feel like even sometimes people let like

703
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 3: people's pro careers affect how we talk about people's college careers,

704
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 3: which has for me, for example, has worked in the

705
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: opposite way. They look at my pro career and they're like, oh,

706
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: you must have been trash in college too then, but like, no,

707
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: I wasn't. I'm not trash now, okay, guys, but like

708
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 3: I definitely wasn't trash in college. But it's works. It

709
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 3: works both ways. So yeah, shout out to my follower. Sometimes,

710
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: you know, you got to peek into your request see

711
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 3: what's going on in there. This guy sent me the

712
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: list and he was like, I want you to talk

713
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: about this on gills and I was like, no, I'm

714
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: going to talk about it online. Yeah, So yeah, shout

715
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: out to homeboy and my request. I appreciate you sending

716
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: me this list because I did not see it. And

717
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 3: when he said it to me, I said, oh, yeah,

718
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: we definitely need to talk about this. I think. Another

719
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: thing I wanted to mention was the amount of commercials

720
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 3: that we've seen. Everybody in I haven't seen any boy

721
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 3: Hoopers and any of these commercials except for Cooper Flag

722
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: and the rest has been the girly pops.

723
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: To be fair, I don't know who really any of

724
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: them are.

725
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 3: So I've been living for these commercials. It's Juju, then

726
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: its Page, then it's Flage, then it's the South Carolina team.

727
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: That's why I don't unershore why people are saying that

728
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: they're not getting hype or people don't know them, or

729
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: that at.

730
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: Bell off because I'm like that I don't really know.

731
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: I've said the seven million times who the men's players

732
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: are right now? No fens, but I know like plenty

733
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: of the world. Like if I think if you ask

734
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: people to name five college basketball players, women's and men's,

735
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: they will be able to name five women before they

736
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: can name it for sure.

737
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: The average person on the street or your name, name

738
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: five players still playing in the tournament right now? Like

739
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: are they trying to like stir the pot? Like yes,

740
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: what agendas are they trying to push like a Cam

741
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: Newton in all them? Like what how do you benefit

742
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: in your conversation and how do you think we benefit

743
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 3: if you want us to have these weird rivalries that

744
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: have nothing to do with basketball.

745
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: It's the same thing that Steven A. Smith does on

746
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: first take. They have to mention women's college basketball, right,

747
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: they have to women mention women's basketball, and they don't

748
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: know what's actually going on on the court. Therefore they

749
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: pull out a little hot topic discourse which always has

750
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: something to do with Kaitlyn Clark, and then they.

751
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: Talk about that so they could check it off their

752
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: But okay, we mentioned women's basketball. Okay, cool, Yeah, we

753
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: can move on. That's the reason why.

754
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: I mean, that's all they know how to talk about,

755
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 3: all they know talk about. And we said it earlier

756
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: in the show, like what is happening to Kaitlin Clark

757
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 3: on the other side of this is also not okay?

758
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 3: Like I don't like leave her alone, right, Like, I

759
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: know we talk about her, but like we talk about

760
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: her because we think she's amazing and she's such a

761
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: great player, and now she's in our she's in my

762
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: sisterhood and this is a WNA women's college basketball show

763
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: and for some reason, nobody knows how to talk about

764
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: women's basketball without mentioning her or angel which I think

765
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: that's a that's a credit to them because how impactful

766
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: they were. But to say that this, I mean, we

767
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: said there has been a lack of narratives, there's been

768
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 3: a lack of storylines. But like y'alll of media. I mean,

769
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: I want to't call Cam media. He does like what

770
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: I do, but like the big media platforms like y'all

771
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: have all the resources and energy in the world to

772
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: push these narratives the way you want to, and y'all

773
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: have chosen to not push any really, and now you're complaining.

774
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: I'm just like, that doesn't make sense. And not even

775
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 3: with the the hot takes think pieces. They're doing it

776
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: with the men's game now too. Now everything oh nil

777
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: is ruining basketball and the transfer proto is ruining basketball

778
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: instead of just talking about the games. So it's happening.

779
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 3: Everythingople getting lazy, it's giving lazy.

780
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: Speaking of a hot topic this year, though, I want

781
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: to know your thoughts on Juju and Jada Daniels.

782
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: See. Don't you know, I don't have any thoughts about it,

783
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: you know, because there's none of my freaking business. But

784
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: the fact that they had an entire segment dedicated to

785
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: it on TV was weird.

786
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: I thought that was so because I wanted to know

787
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: what everybody was talking about. Because this morning, when I

788
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: love back on from being off the grid this weekend,

789
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: that's the first thing I kept seeing, and I was

790
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: like that in the damn four am morning routine, which

791
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: is a whole other conversation.

792
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: But you're off Twitter. Have you seen that girl?

793
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: No, I'm living in Alexi, La la lamb, and it's

794
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: been so great. The only reason why I saw the

795
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: Holly Road thing was because my friend sent it to me.

796
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: We'll I'll send you the morning routinable again that next week.

797
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: But basically I kept seeing things about Juju and they

798
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: were like basically insinuating that she was flirting with him,

799
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: or like I did see one tweet that was funny

800
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: that was like, Juju, don't even open her eyes on

801
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: the course she want to see him.

802
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: She got her eyes over for him. That sent me

803
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 2: into the moon.

804
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: But imagine being a college girl and you're like talking

805
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: to a guy.

806
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 2: I don't even know if she was flirting with him.

807
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what their situation is, but and people

808
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: are videoing it and like analyzing you.

809
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: Not even video like this, guys. This was not like

810
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: someone's iPhone thing that's like, you know how people like

811
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: randomly post things. This was like the four k ESPN

812
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: cameras all in their mouth, all in their face, like

813
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: y'all are rude. And now y'all want to play matchmaker?

814
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: You weirdos? What do we doing?

815
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: But like, so you know, you know that's not why

816
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: the cliffs gone viral. So I have to asked you

817
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 2: about the mama.

818
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: Did you see that or when she sat it between them? Yeah?

819
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: Did you think that was weird?

820
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: Like? Because okay for contacts for those listening, because we're

821
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: going off out a tangent.

822
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: I don't know if everybody has to talking about.

823
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: So basically, a clip of Juju and Jadon Daniels came

824
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: out of the game based on what the ESPN camera saw.

825
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 2: It's not my fault. I saw it. It was giving

826
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: googly eyes.

827
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: You know, they were talking real intently, and then the

828
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: next clip is his mom coming to sit down and

829
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: sits in between them, and Juju's looking unbothered and uninterested

830
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: and looking at the game or whatever. So everybody who's

831
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: been kind of saying his mom will let anybody around him,

832
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: basically because his mom, I think what he was being drafted.

833
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: Isn't she his manager?

834
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, but she's really very mo she's mamas.

835
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was asked what she was the most afraid

836
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: of with him being a professional and she said girls.

837
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: She said, there's a girl at home right now with

838
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: a Jade and Daniels poster, and she's she just thinks

839
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: she's gonna get him, but nobody's getting my son.

840
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: So that's why people were like, she won't let any girls,

841
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 2: not even juju around around her son. But I don't

842
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 2: know if I don't know if it was like that,

843
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: because anyone was.

844
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: Like, okay, the context of it, like it absolutely could

845
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 3: be harmless, and it could not be harmless. But again,

846
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: like I said, none of our business. So yes, the

847
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: fact that the mom already has that reputation and she's

848
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: vocally said, ain't nobody give my baby, didn't do that,

849
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 3: everyone would be like, oh, so it's cap she had

850
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: a stand on business in that moment in time. To

851
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: be fair, she's right to be scared.

852
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: So not.

853
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: It's treacherous out here.

854
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, if anything, the reason I think that it

855
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: was harmless is because if there's anybody you don't need

856
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: to be worried about being around your son, it's a

857
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: woman who is already a professional athlete herself, already a

858
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: millionaire herself at nineteen, and she don't need nothing.

859
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 3: Got the whole world looking at her right, But yeah,

860
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 3: shout out to the cameraman who captured that, because what

861
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 3: was it during a game? It was during a game, like, yeah,

862
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: was it going into commercial break?

863
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: And Cam Doon try to say, nobody cares about Juju, Cam,

864
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: we don't play about that girl.

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Speaker 3: The world does not play about Juju. I think circling

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Speaker 3: back to this good Girl, Bad Girl, Da da da da, like,

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Speaker 3: I think we're finally out of place in women's basketball,

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Speaker 3: finally where people are just simply appreciating the way that

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Speaker 3: we play basketball as women, and we haven't always gotten

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Speaker 3: that respect. Like people genuinely enjoy watching Juju play basketball,

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Speaker 3: and I think that's how it was with Caitlyn too.

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Speaker 3: People really love watching her hoop. I remember, I remember

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Speaker 3: when I first started watching her when she was a

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Speaker 3: freshman in Iowa. I loved watching her play basketball. And

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Speaker 3: I feel that way about a lot of people who

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Speaker 3: hoop men and women, because I just love watching good basketball.

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Speaker 3: So I'm glad that Like when he says something like that,

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Speaker 3: people are just kind of like, what are you even

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00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: talking about, Like why can't you just appreciate Juju for

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Speaker 3: the amazing player that she is and the fact that

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Speaker 3: every body likes watching her, and I think that's like

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00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: gonna be the next stepping stone for us. And women's

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00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: basketball is this division. We don't want it. We don't

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Speaker 3: want that. That's not what the WNBA stands for, it's

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Speaker 3: not what these universities stand for. Sports is the great uniter,

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Speaker 3: and for some reason, people are working over time for

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00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: it to like do the opposite when sports is what

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00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 3: brings people together, all types of people together. And I

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Speaker 3: think that's a heavy crown for Juju to wear. So

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Speaker 3: we will protect her at all costs. Okay, Juju, get

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00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: behind us. We're not gonna let these crazy people put

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Speaker 3: their weird narratives on you that you do not deserve

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Speaker 3: because all you do is put your head down in

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Speaker 3: work and win.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll say that's one of the nice things about

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Speaker 1: the Juju page era, like post Angel Kaitlin, is that

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Speaker 1: nobody's really trying to make it about any time.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about it like a fucking war, right, Oh,

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Speaker 3: heavy it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a war.

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Speaker 3: We had a fire for lives to make it through

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Speaker 3: last summer. Man.

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Speaker 1: But well, I think that I honestly an unpopular opinion.

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Speaker 1: I know it was really hard for both of them.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I think that it

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00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: was a good thing for women's sports in general, not

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00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: just basketball. So now, okay, how do we take that

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00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: momentum and move it into the next era. I think

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00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: the best possible thing is a juju who's not really

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00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: in the media for anything other than damn talking to

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Speaker 1: Jayda Daniels and being on Nike commercials and a page

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Speaker 1: who Yeah, she talks our shit blah blah blah, but she,

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Speaker 1: like you said, she's been a celebrity since high school.

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Speaker 1: So people are gonna pay attention to them regardless for

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00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: how they perform on the court.

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Speaker 2: So that is a good thing for that to be

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Speaker 2: the next step.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think we need to be.

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Speaker 2: Complaining because it's not controversial or a fight.

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00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: Controversy cells, yes, but so does good basketball. And if

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Speaker 3: you guys were watching any of these games this weekend,

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Speaker 3: those arenas were filled. Honey. It was so beautiful to

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Speaker 3: see all these people coming out to support women's basketball

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Speaker 3: this year. And I know the summer is going to

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Speaker 3: be This tournament is lit. The final four, You're gonna

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Speaker 3: be lit. I'm so excited that we get to go.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna conclude with y'all if you're

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Speaker 1: still listening, that means that you love us. So you

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Speaker 1: need to come out to the Final four because I

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Speaker 1: believe we'll be doing a live tape bang and me

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Speaker 1: and Lexi.

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Speaker 2: Will be there and it'll be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, come hang, Come hang with us in Tampa

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Speaker 3: and tap into this podcast live and in person. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for sticking with us. Today was a long one, but

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Speaker 3: it was a fun one. So we will see y'all

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Speaker 3: next week the Full Circle Podcast. Bye.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to Full Circle.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with more basketball for the Girls,

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Speaker 1: by the girls.

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