1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Ron and Aian. It's the original LT one two port motor. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: This was the Kakamami Nightmare. Kakammi being the technical operative 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: board that GM, decided to take the distributor from up 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: top of the engine where it was accessible and mounted 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: on the forward part of the engine right underneath the 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: water pump. Can get it, Can get it, the Car Doctor. 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Stick your head under the left side of the dashboard 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: or left side of the cluster. You're going to see 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: a gang of relays. May in a way. They don't 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: make tracers anywhere. 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Aim the 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 2: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 2: pick up the phone and call in. 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five five five six, ninety 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: nine hundred and now he. 19 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: Running. 20 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: Hey, how was your weekend automobiles? Mine is great. Thanks 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: for joining me here this hour. You know I had 22 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: this twenty ten Honda Accord. I wanted to talk to 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: you about in the shop this week and we were doing. 24 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: I had to do a forward catalytic converter and it'd 25 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: set a P zero four thirty efficiency fault. And that's 26 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: the forward cat on the radiator side on this particular 27 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: Honda Accord. And in doing so I had to you know, 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: I replaced at one hundred and ninety thousand miles. We 29 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: also did you know air fuel ratio sensor and oxygen sensor, 30 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, pre and post cat sensors. And I couldn't 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: get the air fuel sensor correct. It was like nobody 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: could look it up. And I was a little frustrated 33 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: and I reached out to the guys over at Opus IVS. 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: I went to tech Support. I know it sounds crazy 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: for a part, but I wanted to know, could somebody 36 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: tell me something with regard to you know, had they 37 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: seen this before, because it seems like nobody could look 38 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: it up correctly. And I digg just that I was 39 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: able to put. I was able to get a hold 40 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: of support and speak to them, and it was interesting 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: because what I saw them do was put. They said 42 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: to me, hey, Ron, take your Opus, you know, the 43 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Opus scan tool, and you know what I'm getting ahead 44 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: of myself. Let me introduce our guests this hour because 45 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: I'd like to bring him in and talk to him 46 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: with regard to this, because I know he's itching to 47 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: get in on this conversation. We have Hugh Atkins with 48 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: us from Opus IVS. Opus. Hugh, you have to be 49 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 1: one of the other brothers. So how are you today? 50 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm sort of getting ahead of the curve. 51 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: You know. 52 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: I meant to tell you this story in pre show 53 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: and I never got around to it. But so I 54 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: had this Honda accord and this shows the reach of 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: what Opus IVS can do, right, you know, Hugh. I 56 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: had this Honda accord that I couldn't get the correct 57 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: air fuel sensor. So after I exhausted all the parts 58 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: houses and the dealer and everybody, nobody could tell me 59 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: it was. There seems to be some confusion over California 60 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: or federal emissions. So I called tech support. I put 61 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: in a hotline case and they called me back and 62 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: they said, can you show us what the sensor looks like? 63 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 1: And I went, well, how can I do that? You're 64 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: on the phone and you know my scan tools plugged in, 65 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: but I can't. They said, no, no, no, you know, I 66 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: keep forgetting the tool has a camera built in it, Hugh, right, 67 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: and they actually they're logged into Now this is crazy, 68 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: all right, This is like a zoom conference call with 69 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: your scan tool. They're logged into the tool. I take it. 70 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: I put the camera over the end of the connector. 71 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: I said, I have this, and they were actually able 72 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: to send me a picture after doing some research on 73 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: their side, No, you need this, and I was able 74 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: to take that. Send it, send it, Send it to 75 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: my parts guys, along with what they thought was the 76 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: right part number. They looked it up and whilah, I 77 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: got the correct sensor. Now when was the last time 78 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: you used a scan tool to look up apart? Is 79 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: that crazy or what? Right? 80 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's good. It's also good to be they 81 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: can virtually be there right right. You can say do 82 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: you see what I'm talking about? You don't have to 83 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: describe it and believe it or not. Describing something to 84 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: somebody over the phone accurately isn't as easy as it sounds, right, 85 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: I mean you can say, yeah, it looks it really 86 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: looks hot, but what do you mean that works hot? Well? 87 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: Here take a look. That says a thousand words. 88 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: Right, Well, and the neat thing is with Opus. I 89 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: forget the text name I got, but he was a 90 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: Honda Tech. He'd seen it before, and you know, he 91 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: had run into this and evidently it's a difference between 92 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: an eight cavity air fuel ratio sensor and a five 93 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: cavity air fuel ratio sensor five wire or eight wire, 94 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: and it's the difference between federal and California and then 95 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: California and ultra emissions and all these crazy possibilities of 96 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: what it could be. And it got me to thinking, 97 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: which is why you're here today, Hugh. You know, what 98 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: was it like in the beginning? Because the Opus scan 99 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: tool didn't always have a camera in it, right, it 100 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: didn't always you know, hey, point and click, Hey look 101 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: at this. You know, here's the here's here, here's. 102 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: A yeah we've got Can you tell us about the beginning? 103 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, can you tell us about the beginning? If we 104 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: were looking at family pictures of the opus family, like, 105 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: where did it? Where did it begin? Because it's a 106 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: neat idea and it really works well. 107 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 3: I have a Drew tech background, and of course we 108 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: came together with Autologic and Autological has been around since 109 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: the early two thousands. Also but I'll say it from 110 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: a Drew Tech background because it's for me. It's a 111 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: little more colorful. Right. So Drew Tech made made a 112 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: J twenty five thirty four devices so you can download 113 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: the OEM application for diagnostics and reprogram you can use 114 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 3: it yourself. Users would call in every now and say, hey, 115 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: I'm having a hard time navigating their Chrysler site. We 116 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 3: would help them with that, or help them choose a 117 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: calibration or whatever. Right, it's not really vehicle repair, but 118 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: it's J twenty five thirty four support. And we had 119 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: a lot of requests about hey, can you program this me. 120 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 3: We have been working with Autologic actually we were selling 121 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: them devices because their world was changing. They had a 122 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 3: need to be using OE tools as opposed to their own. 123 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: And so we said, hey, why don't we You know, 124 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: you guys do services, We do reprogramming, We make the equipment, 125 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 3: we use the support for it, but we don't do 126 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: reprogramming services. You want to get together do that. They 127 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: couldn't do that at that time, but we decided, hey, 128 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 3: why don't we make a kit, and so we made 129 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: something called the Wrap Kit. Now you have on the 130 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: drive pro, you have the remote assist program application on 131 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: the right. 132 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: Right, there's a wrap there's a wrap box built into 133 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: that tool. As I understand it, there is right, there is. 134 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: Our first one was a lot more primitive than that 135 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 3: sexy stone thing. 136 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: It was kind of like the right brothers. It was 137 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: a two wing airplane compared to today's jets. 138 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: That yeah, it's a huge, huge kit. Looks like a 139 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: ruggedized suitcase. And it had a tablet on top, you know, 140 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: and you know it had the same benefits where hey, 141 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 3: when it's time to you know, update say forward, we're 142 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: the ones to do that, not the local technician. And 143 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: when it's comes when it comes time to go get 144 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: the subscription again, we do that, not the technician. And 145 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: this is important because technician is really busy. He keeps 146 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: you know, he's entertaining the customers whether they're coming or 147 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: coming back. He's got to keep the mechanics busy. He's 148 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: in parts ordering. He's a pretty popular guy. So if 149 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: he goes, you know, if he quits working so he 150 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: can update forward, well I don't mean anything derogatory toward 151 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: forward there, but if he starts updating OE applications, he's 152 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: probably that the shop is missing out. In other areas, 153 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: but there was a big market for to have programming 154 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: done for them, and we started making what we started 155 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: trying to do it out of our technical support and 156 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: our technical support guys, we're trying to work with other 157 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: people's computer. Okay, that doesn't work. You all of a 158 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: sudden start, you know, fixing their Java updating Windows. 159 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: Right, and that becomes a real problem. And when you're 160 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: especially when you're doing software updating to a vehicle computer, 161 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: there's there's standards for safety to ensure that the program 162 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: is going to go through, to ensure that you're not 163 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: going to you know, pooch the computer that it no 164 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: longer you know, in the middle of in the middle 165 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: of doing a program, Windows update comes on. That's a problem, 166 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: or it can be, depending upon the vehicle and the manufacturer. 167 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: Right, right, Yeah, that the computer has to be able 168 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 3: to pay attention to that task for a little while. 169 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: Most of the applications allow the calibration, that is, the 170 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: program you're installing to come down to the computer fully 171 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: and then it'll dispend it, right, It'll it'll actually send 172 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: the program to the module. 173 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: Right, So you knew that, So you knew that the 174 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: other so you knew that it wouldn't work with Windows 175 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: updates and things like that, so you refined it, right, 176 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: you took it to the next level. You went away 177 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: from the wrap box. Did you work on the wrap 178 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: box US first? Because at some point you knew that 179 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: the wrap box alone by itself wasn't enough and it 180 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: had to become a scan tool. Where was you know, 181 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: where was that evolution over the last twenty years. 182 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: Well, that part that that was really a coming together 183 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: with three companies. There was drew Tech, Autologic and fire 184 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: Site and they needed a they need a platform to 185 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: run with right and prior to the drive pro and natively, 186 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: Autologic used the blue Box and Farsat had another tablet 187 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 3: all set up and both those tools were kind of 188 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 3: running along in the tooth and they didn't have J 189 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: twenty five thirty four built in them. You could run 190 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: the far Site tablet with with a device, but we 191 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: thought wouldn't be great if we had a scan tool 192 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: h J twenty five thirty four device inside, we can 193 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 3: run it for them, you know, we could we could 194 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: manage that environment so that we didn't become the customer's 195 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 3: I I consultant, right, and the Blue Box was getting 196 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: pretty old. So that's when we developed the the Pro 197 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: and we also needed it. 198 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was gonna say that's when you put 199 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: together the wrap, the drive pro and everything all in one. 200 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: It was like one stop shopping, right. 201 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: And we needed what we always needed. We knew this 202 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: because Farsight kind of sprung from Autologic, and Farsite wanted 203 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: Autologic to euros. In the United States, we have a 204 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: lot more vehicle types in that that are very popular. 205 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: Domestic Asians are huge, so they broke off to do that, 206 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 3: and so it was obvious that we because they needed 207 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: it so much, we needed a diagnostic application that would 208 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: be a professional diagnostic application, and we couldn't rent one 209 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: from someone else, right, So we found up purchasing a 210 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: company called Auto Ingenuity. They had a nice PC based 211 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: scan tool, they have a good development group, and hey, 212 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 3: isn't that great. So we've up putting all all of 213 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: that together, and that's what the drive throw is. 214 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: So you've really got you've really got three companies or 215 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: three separate devices or concepts in one box, so to speak. 216 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: From the sounds of it, we do. 217 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the drive post made so that you know, 218 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: the customer obviously can use it as a professional scand tool. 219 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: But then we can use the OE applications using the 220 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: J twenty five thirty four device on board as well 221 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: as the memory to hold those applications, and we can 222 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: do work for them, or like in a reprogramming case, 223 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: you can that once the digestician says, hey, this vehicle 224 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: needs to be reprogrammed, he can hand that kit to 225 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: a non technical person and. 226 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: They can take care of from there and they can 227 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: just kind of walk through it. Hey, you sit on 228 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: the phone, Sit tight. Let me pull over, take a pause. 229 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: When we come back, I want to go a little 230 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: bit more in depth of talk a little bit about 231 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: J twenty five thirty four and WRAP capabilities. I'm Ron 232 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: an Ending and the Card Doctor. I'm here with Hugh 233 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: Atkins of Opus IVS. We'll both return right after this. 234 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: Don't go well, you have done. 235 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 5: What's more fun than listening to Ron and Ady and 236 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 5: the Car Doctor and getting that car fixed? Right A 237 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 5: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 238 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: Give Ron a call now back to Ron. Welcome back, listeners. 239 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: Ron and Aye in the Car Doctor are here today 240 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: with Hugh Atkins of Opus OPA's IVS. H and we 241 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: pulled away from take the pause we were talking, you know, 242 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: to summarize real quick how how Opus came to be 243 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: Right in the beginning, you know it was to be. 244 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: It was the structure of three companies coming together, three concepts, 245 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: a programming box, a scanbox, some tech support, and all 246 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: these different concepts became the current scan tool right, Opus 247 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: IVS the drive pro isn't that? Is that a fair statement? 248 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 3: It is? It is, and it was. It wasn't easy 249 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: because we had done J twenty five thirty four devices 250 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: and that's a component in there. Oh, we hadn't made 251 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 3: whole computers. 252 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: So when we got when you say J twenty five 253 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: thirty four in English, break it down, what does that mean? 254 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: Because the listeners hear that, and the shops out there 255 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: they hear that, and some of them know, some of 256 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: them don't. What is J twenty five thirty four that 257 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: we throw around? 258 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: So casually it's just a communication. You know, I wish 259 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 3: it had had an easier name, like Sally or Bill 260 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 3: or something. It's all it is is a language that 261 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: the OE application. Once that's on your PC and you 262 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: have say Toyota application on there, it speaks J twenty 263 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 3: five thirty four language to our box and it'll say, 264 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 3: you know, let's say you're you're doing a bi directional 265 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: control to roll down the window right, and it'll say, hey, 266 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: talk to the body computer and I show ninety one 267 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: forty one language, and then it does what it really 268 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: has to do. Our device, the J twenty five thirty 269 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 3: four device, is know all the languages. 270 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: And it's it's basically the interpreter. It's the translator. 271 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: Yes, it is. In fact, I talk about I explain 272 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: it all you know. Ignicians will ask me about it, 273 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: and I'll say, this is kind of like if you 274 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: went to China. If I went to China, I don't 275 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: speak Chinese, I would have to have a translator. And 276 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: if that guy selling coke over there speaks Mandarin, but 277 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: my translator doesn't speak Mandarin, well he's not going to 278 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 3: tell me he doesn't, and I'm probably not going to 279 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: get that coke right. But if you have a good translator, 280 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: it speaks to everybody. 281 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: And if you have a bad translator, you get Pepsi. 282 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: So nothing against the folks at PEPSI. Actually I actually 283 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: do like Pepsi, but that's another story. So we've got 284 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: a device built into the tool that will allow it 285 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: to speak to car computers and vehicle computers to do 286 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: software updates and such. And then then the rat Box 287 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: came along. The rat Box is a different than JAY 288 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: twenty five thirty four. What's the story behind that? 289 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: No, it was kind of like the original. It came 290 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: a little bit beforehand, and it was kind of it 291 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: was made for programming only, not for diagnosed. You couldn't 292 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: see through it or anything like that, but we couldn't 293 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: team viewer into it. The wrap box is like a 294 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: ruggedied suitcase with a latwork with a tablet on it. 295 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: The tablets have the OE applications on it. It has 296 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: a cellular card, a J twenty five to thirty four device, 297 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: a card act and it have a battery maintainer. And 298 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: that way, it was a kit, so we knew the 299 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: customer had everything they needed and we can team viewer 300 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: in press the buttons and it would be done the 301 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: right way. And when I say the right way, it 302 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: has the computer with the application on it right by 303 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: the vehicle, connected with a cord to that vehicle. And 304 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: that's the way the only AM applications were intended to 305 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: be used. And that's the way they're most effective. 306 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: So what you've done is you've standardized, to sum it up, 307 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: how a repair shop other than a dealer can program 308 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: and access the ability to download and update software and 309 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: computers if they're replacing a computer, to put fresh software in, 310 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: if there is a calibration update or a software update. 311 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: You've now made it possible for anyone in a repair 312 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: shop as long as they have electricity and a connection 313 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: to you using a wrap box or a drive pro 314 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: as it's now in a drive pro do software. 315 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: What we did, we made it easier, is what we did, 316 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: and a little bit faster it could by outsourcing some 317 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: of the IT stuff. So SAE when they made J 318 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: twenty five thirty four kind of did what you're talking about, right, 319 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: But then they're the ones who were the authors of 320 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: that language, and Mike Drew was a part of that. 321 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: But what we did with a rap kit has made 322 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: it a lot more accessible Now it didn't take so 323 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: much technician time. Now they could hand that kid to 324 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: someone who's non technical and they could handle it from 325 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: there and we would team viewer in do the hard stuff. 326 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: All we're really asking of them to do key cycles 327 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: when required and to make sure powers on the vehicle. 328 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: And you know, the really neat thing about WRAP and 329 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: J twenty five and the way you've done this and 330 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: brought it all to the table is you've standardized everything. 331 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: You know, I used to I used to use a 332 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: Ford IDs I then I would then I would use 333 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: my GM scan tools to do my GM and then 334 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: I would use my Chrysler to do Chrysler. And every 335 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: every company does it a little different. It's you know, 336 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: the learning curve is always there. And Toyota was different 337 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: than than the other three, and then Honda was something 338 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: else entirely. And you know, you would just go through 339 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: the list of procedures and they all got to the 340 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: same result. They all updated software. But what what WRAP? 341 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: And you know J twenty five thirty four and the 342 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: way everything's combined. You standardized everything. You put it all 343 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: in one box and it works in the same procedure. Plus, 344 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: not to mention, somebody else is doing it on the 345 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: other end, so you know they've got the ability to 346 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: do it. For me, I just hook up and walk away. 347 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: Now I can watch the process. But it does make 348 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: life easier in the repair shop. Hey, hughes sit tight 349 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 1: when we when we come back. I want to know 350 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: how all of this ties into the body shops because 351 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: they've got to huge need for this, and I know 352 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: you guys are getting there, so sit tight on wanting. 353 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: Nanni in the Car Doctor with Hugh Atkins of Opus. 354 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: We'll both return right after this. 355 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 4: Don't go. 356 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 5: Ron's in the own the Auto Zone studio and he'll 357 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 5: be back right after this. Who's gonna Jody, Welcome back 358 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 5: to the Auto Zone Studio. 359 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: Here's Ron. Welcome back. It's Ron. Annie in the Car Doctor. 360 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm here at this hour with Hugh Atkins Opus Opus 361 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: iv S. Well, actually I was here. I was here 362 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: for the first half with Hugh and returning this into 363 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: the Opus IVS hour here you're there. Hugh loves to talk. 364 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: He's real good at this, but he's also got a 365 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: lot of information. Listen. I think it's I think it's 366 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: a good interview. Let's let it roll. You know, we 367 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: were talking in the first half here of how Opus 368 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: came to be in this It's such a revolutionary idea 369 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: to be able to go right in with a you know, 370 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: a tech line, a Honda guy working on a Honda, 371 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: a Ford guy working on a Ford. You know, what 372 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: are we looking at? And have the ability to not 373 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: just scan and analyze data, but you've also given repair 374 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: shops the ability to you know, program and calibrate and 375 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: verify things. And then every once in a while, you know, 376 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: I've had the experience where something won't work via Opus 377 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: software and it doesn't and then you you guys have 378 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: a really neat trick you'll pull out of your out 379 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: of your back pocket where you'll download manufacturer software onto 380 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: the tool, right and and and that's it, And I 381 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: should say it a different way. You know, it's not 382 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: that the Opus software doesn't work. We're just not sure 383 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: if it doesn't work because it's why the car is broken, 384 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: or if there's a conflict somewhere with that software. And 385 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: then we have a you know, we have another we 386 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: can put Honda software in for a Honda and if 387 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't work there, well, then some of our testing 388 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: will take us quicker to the to the source of 389 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: the problem. Right, But talk about that for a minute. 390 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: You if you can, you you guys can actually put 391 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: the same software that the dealer has on this tool 392 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: and the shop can use it for that repair in 393 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: that moment. 394 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: Correct, That's exactly what we do. You know that there 395 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: is nothing like having the OE two. You always want 396 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 3: a good scancel, right if it's your first go to 397 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 3: it's it's what tells you about the vehicle. But when 398 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 3: you but if you really need the best there is, 399 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 3: it's going to be the application written by the people 400 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: who made that vehicle, right and also wrote the software 401 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 3: at least describe the software to be written for that 402 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: vehicle by their supplier. And there really is no better. 403 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 3: There's not only time to backwards engineer. You know, when 404 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: something's first on the road. There's no such thing as 405 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 3: a pattern failure, yet they're there. There's just no pattern 406 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: in NINOS data. And you do have to have that 407 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 3: kind of technology built, you know, from the manufacturer because 408 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: the other scan tool, the third what i'll call scan 409 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: tool makers out there haven't had time to backwards engineer them. 410 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: So what happens, you know, we get to that point 411 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: where okay, it's supposed to bi directional control and put 412 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: the window up and down in this Honda, and it doesn't. 413 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: And the tech can then turn to the hotline source 414 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: and they'll do what they'll they'll try it right. And 415 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: I've had this experience where I'll say, you know, I've 416 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: tested this, and I've tested this, and I'm at the 417 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: point where I need to be able to either run 418 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: it through the computer by scan tool and I can't 419 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: get that to work, or I'm going to guess and 420 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: put a motor in it. I don't want to do 421 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: that because it's a three hundred dollars guess and then 422 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: they'll come along and put Honda software on that tool, right, 423 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: But I never see it happen. It's done behind the scenes. 424 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. I mean, what you need to make 425 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: sure that that whole system when I see a system, computer, Java, 426 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 3: OE application, all those types of things need to be correct, right, 427 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 3: and that's why we have that environment as our own, 428 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: and that's what we can maintain it so it does 429 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 3: you know, you don't accidentally install something else and then 430 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: throw it out of whack. I'll just say, right, so, 431 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: having that OE application is hugely important. It allows you 432 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 3: to program. It also allows you all the diagnostics that 433 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: the dealers have, which is quite a bit. 434 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: And you've got a dealer guy kind of pushing the 435 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: buttons and that's the other thing. You know, You've got 436 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: dealer guys that have the hand experience, the Ford experience, 437 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: of GM experience and so forth. So you know they're 438 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: actually you know, you guys are doing more than just scanning. 439 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: You're actually educating the industry and how things work and procedure. 440 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: Do you ever think about that? Is that an intention 441 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: or is that just an accidental product? Yeah? 442 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 3: I use it myself, you know, my my if my 443 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: car has an issue, that's where I go to get 444 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: it and I get to actually feel at firsthand. I 445 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 3: can you know, I can get a handle on their versatility, 446 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 3: like you were saying. You know, I had somebody who says, hey, 447 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 3: do you have a Ford ballance power balance on that 448 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: on that machine? And you know, it turns out no, 449 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: I didn't. And I asked one of these guys, the 450 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 3: IVF sixty guys, and they said, oh, but we can 451 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: do this. We can do this, we can do this, 452 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: we can do this. We can still fix that vehicle. 453 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 3: And it's their versatility, their method, their experience, it's all 454 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: there on tap. 455 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: Now the next evolution. So I just got to ask 456 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: you this question. So I've been thinking of this a 457 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: whole hour here. When you started with Opus, right, how 458 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: many people were at the company. 459 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 3: I think there are twenty three? 460 00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: How many is there now? 461 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: That was true tech? Oh geez, if you were to 462 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: guess three, three fifty or. 463 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: So, wow, And that's over the list. When was when 464 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: was the biggest growth the list? 465 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 3: Five years years probably as we were all coming together, 466 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 3: so that would be like seventeen eighteen nineteen. We started 467 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 3: growing and we started realizing we had to grow. You know, 468 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: like I said, REFT used to be our tech support 469 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 3: guys team veering into someone else's computer, and that does 470 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 3: a word. It turns out you have to have the 471 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: back end support that you have to Our guys have 472 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 3: to have a computer. The customer has to have a 473 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: computer with an environment that we know what we're getting into. 474 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 3: They have to have our reference materials. They can't be 475 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 3: hand to putting in the vent. They've got to be 476 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 3: you know, they can't be writing up the billing and 477 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 3: stuff like that. They need to be doing what they 478 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: do best, and we have to have a back end 479 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 3: to support that. And then we had to grow so 480 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 3: we could meet the time zones. 481 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: So that's where the drive so came in and just 482 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: it was the standard tablet computer that everybody had in 483 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: the shop and it just made everything we're talking about 484 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: here practical and easy. So where you know where it did? 485 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: Where did the body shops come into this, Because now 486 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: you're into the body shops, right and what are you 487 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: doing for them? 488 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: We are and the body shops are really interesting, you know, 489 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: we talked about it a little bit last time. Where 490 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: the body shops collision shops are very different. They're insurance paid, 491 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: which has a huge difference. They are very production. Like 492 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 3: in vehicle repair shop, you have one man, one car 493 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 3: one day. That's the way it works. Coalition shops have 494 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: the estimator and then it goes over to the next 495 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 3: station where they write up insurance work. It goes to 496 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: the next station where they are going to order the 497 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: parts so they have all the right parts because they 498 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 3: can't have a bunch of half half put together cars everywhere, 499 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 3: and then on a room for that. Then it's going 500 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: to go into what I'll call disassembly, and there's a 501 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 3: lot of it, and you have to be up on 502 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 3: that and you have to be ready for them for 503 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 3: them to take a car out of sequence and send 504 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: it to get a an OE scan and send that 505 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: vehicle out to the dealer. Oh my gosh, that that's 506 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 3: super slow for them. But with something like a drive 507 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 3: pro we call it right safe. We can just team 508 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 3: viewer in while the vehicles at that station do the 509 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 3: OE scan and it goes on to the next one 510 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 3: and that that that that's and that's just one fastic. 511 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 3: Like I said earlier, they they that the car might 512 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 3: be two days old. And there's a lot of stories 513 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 3: like that. You hear them all the time. People dry 514 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 3: it off the lot, not used to the car and 515 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 3: this happens. Well, you know, you have to use OE 516 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 3: software because scan tools haven't backwards engineered the newer functions 517 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 3: or the newer the newer subsystem, so you have to 518 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 3: use OE tools. Then there's also you know, our hardware 519 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 3: like the card act for example, there's a Kardac inside 520 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 3: the drive thro and also the. 521 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: Tell I know what a kard Act is, but tell 522 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: the audience what a Kardak is you. 523 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 3: Well, that's the J twenty five thirty four device that's 524 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: a translator. So it's to go between between the compute 525 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 3: that let's say, the Toyota application and the actual Toyota 526 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: vehicle that you're talking to. Right, it translates all those 527 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 3: commands properly, and it used to be when you know, 528 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 3: we didn't see vehicles in vehicle repair until after the 529 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 3: warranty period let's call it five, three or five years, 530 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: while Collision sees it right away. So you absolutely have 531 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: to have the heart, the software and the firmware and 532 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: as well as the hardware and the card act up 533 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 3: for like that year for the absolute new vehicles. Otherwise, 534 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 3: you know, these customers aren't able to get their cars 535 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 3: back into long be an awful thing. But we we 536 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 3: see them over and over and over, which is really 537 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 3: really good. And we have what we take the technician, 538 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 3: the technician that we have that that you're normally talking to, 539 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 3: we have another set that's just a Collision and they're familiar, 540 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: super familiar with ad ASS and they know that their 541 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 3: environment which is not very technician rich, it's almost all mechanics, 542 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 3: but they're explaining the stuff a lot more and there 543 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 3: is no such thing as a pattern failure. Like I 544 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 3: was saying, we've actually told Oe's before, hey, we're seeing 545 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 3: a lot of this in this vehicle, and they've written 546 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 3: service boll based on what we've told them on our feedback, 547 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 3: which we're kind of proud of. 548 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: Any idea on how many tech calls, hotline calls they 549 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: take in a day. 550 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: Oh mind, you know, I don't know. I know we 551 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 3: can reprogram. We can probably program like eight hundred in 552 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: a day. 553 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: Wow. 554 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 3: I might be wrong there. I might be wrong there. 555 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: But that's still a lot when you consider it is 556 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: a lot when you consider how many dealers are out 557 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 1: there doing that. You know, when when you consider how 558 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: many dealers are out there programming on their uh, you know, 559 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: it's it's still a huge number. 560 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 6: Here. 561 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull over when I come back. I want 562 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: to know when they put the camera in the tool 563 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: because because I bet you the camera in the tool 564 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 1: kind of made it easier for you guys when you're 565 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: dealing with the body shop. So sit tight. I'm here 566 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: with Hugh Atkins of Opus IVS. We're just kind of 567 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: chatting about Opus scan tool and the technology and what 568 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: it brings to the marketplace. I'm running any in the 569 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: car doctor, I'll be back right after this. No go away, Hey, Hey, hey, 570 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: we're back, wanting any in the card doctor. I'm here 571 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: today with Hugh Atkins of Opus IVS. Hugh, when we 572 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: pulled away for that pause, we were talking. We were 573 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: getting deep into Opus and its capability and as recovering 574 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: the history and current capabilities of the tool. And then 575 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: we started talking body shops. And then I asked that 576 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: faithful question, where did the camera come into the tool? 577 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: Because I've got to thinking body shop world. Oh yeah, 578 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: the fenders bent in this direction, look right, and we 579 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: can we can now show the bend the broken harness. 580 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: You know, whose idea was it? Where did the camera 581 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: come from? And then does it help the body shops? 582 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: It has to write it helps body and vehicle repair shops. 583 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 3: And it is huge in body shops because they're setting 584 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 3: up like the eight s targets for example, and you're 585 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: working with people who aren't technicians ther mechanics, and they 586 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: don't do this every day. And certainly you know that 587 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 3: they go through one car after another, but not all 588 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: fours one day in all GMS and X. So yeah, 589 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 3: that camera is really important. And when the drive Pro 590 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: was originally designed, designed by I think basically three people. 591 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 3: There was Brian Herron and then there was Andrew Bentley 592 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: and then also Kevin Fitzpatrick. And you know, Kevin has 593 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 3: a you know, a long you know, he really was 594 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 3: Autologic USA, and he knows what his technicians need and 595 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 3: he knows, he knows, he knows what they need in 596 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: order to do a good job efficiently. And between those 597 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 3: three that was that that was putting the camera in 598 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: And I'm I gotta think it would be probably him 599 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: and him or Bryan. 600 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: You know, you just said the magic word. I think 601 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: it just struck me Opus to you know when you 602 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: first think about it, the Opus scan tool. It's not 603 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: really a scan tool, right, I mean it is, but 604 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: it's just a yeah, it's sort of a platform. It's 605 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: sort of an existence of you know, here's the capability 606 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: and what it can do. It can scan, it can program, 607 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: it can get us into OE software, it can problem solve, 608 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: but it's doing it. And you said the word efficiently, right. 609 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: I think if a repair shop out there was thinking 610 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: about this because obviously this isn't for the do it 611 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: yourself for in the weekend warrior. And you know the 612 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: purpose of our conversation today is we wanted to let 613 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: the repair shops know what's out there, but also to 614 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: let the listeners in general know that, you know, to 615 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: look for a shop that has this ability. It ends 616 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: the conversation of hey can you work on my car? 617 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: Do you have the right software. If you have one 618 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: of these, you've got the right software. It's as simple 619 00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: as that. 620 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 3: It's kind of like time sharing these guys time right, 621 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 3: if it's bringing OE tools and services with them, okay, 622 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 3: but it's also about uh time sharing these guys who 623 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 3: are very highly talented and experienced, and I mean think 624 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 3: how hard it is too because they used to only 625 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 3: be in New York, right. New York has a lot 626 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: of people, so you got them to choose from. But 627 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 3: you have to have a guy who has experience, knows 628 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: the OE subsystems, right, you have you got to be 629 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: familiar with the cars and their breaking systems and blah 630 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: blah blah. For that that that OE. You have to 631 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 3: have your source of service information. You have to have 632 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: your knowledge and experience and you and you also have 633 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 3: to be able to talk to a customer as if 634 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 3: they were one and finding that magic combination. You know, 635 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 3: you can't go around and out tech the other tech 636 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 3: that's not nice. You have to you have that's a 637 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: pretty special guy. And when you find them, you have 638 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 3: to take care of them. And in order to scale 639 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: the different time zones, I mean, we've had to go 640 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: all over the place. 641 00:32:59,320 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: Uh. 642 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: You know. We we have Michigan, we have South North Carolina, 643 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 3: we have Comack, New York, and also California. And I'm 644 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: glad we're able to find the guys that we do 645 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: because they've been. 646 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: Excellent, right yeah. 647 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: I can support them well with a back end system yep. 648 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys you give them the ability to 649 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: do that. 650 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 3: Here. 651 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: It's been an absolute pleasure today, sir. I'm sure there's 652 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: more conversations in our future because I'm sure Opus is 653 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: going to continue to evolve and define the industry. If 654 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: a listener is out there, repair shop is out there, 655 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: they want more information. What's the website? 656 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 3: The website is www opusivs dot com. 657 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: Perfect cool beings here. We'll talk again, sir. Thanks for 658 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: the time. We appreciate it. You have a great rest 659 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: of the weekend, you too, Thanks a lot. 660 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 3: I appreciate it all. It's a lot of fun. 661 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. Be well, I'm running any of 662 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. 663 00:33:49,400 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 6: Don't go away. 664 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, well, the heck an of needing the card doctor. 665 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: I want to once again thank our special guest this hour, 666 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: Hugh Atkins of Opus IVS and all his information. He 667 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: is a fountain of information. There's a lot of stuff 668 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: in his head about just you know, beyond even the 669 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: development of the scan tool and where Opus came from, 670 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: and you know what it's doing to the industry. There's 671 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: there's a guy that's been in the industry thirty five 672 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: plus years. I think he once said to me, So 673 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: there's an awful lot of stuff there and just a 674 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: pleasure to sit down and talk with someone like that. 675 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: I hope you got something out of it. You know, 676 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: understand that Opus IVS is here to help fix cars. 677 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: That's what it does. And it's the idea of putting 678 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: somebody at your elbow to give you good diagnostic information 679 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: and the ability to go in and scan with OE 680 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: level scan tool technology because sometimes that's flat out what 681 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: you need. Maybe not every time, but you do need it. 682 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: There's gonna be those moments where nothing's gonna work better 683 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 1: than an OE scan tool, and that's what Opus does. 684 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: I can always tell you that, you know some of 685 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: these stories that you hear from the bay, well they're 686 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: not story is they're real. These are the things that 687 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: happened to me in the Bay, and some of the 688 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: things I have to go through to solve the problems 689 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: of today's cars, and I'm looking forward to to tomorrow's cars, 690 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: so we'll be here to do that till the next 691 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: time I'm run an ad in the card, I can 692 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: reminding each and every one of you. Good mechanics aren't expensive, 693 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: They're priceless. 694 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 4: See