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Speaker 1: a half an hour at one thirty because some years ago,

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Speaker 1: that coming out after one thirty. All right, Now, over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, it's got a story in the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 1: this whole thing form beginning to end, Deborah, you will

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Speaker 3: I'll never fly a plane again. Why I have never?

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Speaker 3: I have never flown a plane. I'm not a pilot,

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Speaker 2: You want them always in agreement on quality.

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Speaker 1: According to Boeing, all indications are the problem with the

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Speaker 1: And they apparently have many other problems that are just undiscovered.

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Speaker 1: That weasel State Senator Scott Wiener from San Francisco wants

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Speaker 1: Not doing sensationalistic hype. This is a straightforward story from

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Speaker 1: well from AFAR for all these dozens of different factories.

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Speaker 7: That way, you don't want to be the one kid

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Speaker 2: That's right, shut up, shut up, or we won't get pizza. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So on the factory floor, some of the spirit machinists

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Speaker 2: Too many problems. No pizza party.

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Speaker 1: The union reps were complaining that the company would remove

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Speaker 2: God, buddy, get out of here. Shut up. No pizza

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Speaker 2: for you, like, no soup for you. What you don't

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Speaker 2: want the pizza? I want the pizza I like it?

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Speaker 2: Don't I don't care.

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Speaker 3: If people get killed. I want my pizza.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, this is where we're at.

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Speaker 3: We got unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: We've got a bunch of guys in Wichita wanting to

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Speaker 7: I can't believe that a pizza party is an incentive

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 5: Now, I'm going to give you one thousand dollars bonus

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Speaker 3: That's what should be happening that.

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Speaker 2: You're exactly right. You should be an airline executive.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't do any worse than the guys running a

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Speaker 3: Right now, I'm going to go moonlight as that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, give an incentive to find the problem, not hide it.

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Speaker 1: He's a slice of pizza.

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Speaker 5: Seriously, Now, that's what they should do. Everybody should get

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Speaker 1: Here's a two dollars slice of pizza. Well, that'll keep

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Speaker 1: we come back Blake Trolley. Do you know there was

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Speaker 1: It's so bad that even the Democrats and Sacramento want

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Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am

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Speaker 2: We're on the radio from one until four.

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Speaker 1: And then if you missed anything like our last half

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Speaker 1: Else Show on demand. All right, we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: with Blake Trolley. Now, crime is bad, especially in the

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Speaker 1: I think almost half the people in San Francisco either

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Speaker 1: Scott Wiener is trying to close a loophole which apparently

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Speaker 2: You believe that we had a loophole.

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Speaker 1: We have a loophole in California law that makes it

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Speaker 2: Not a big surprise.

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Speaker 1: They were going to talk to Blake Trolley because Wiener

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Speaker 8: Yeah, John, Currently, in California, if somebody breaks into your car,

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Speaker 8: It doesn't matter if somebody breaks your window or what

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Speaker 8: stole stuff. So Senator Scott Wiener, yes you heard that right,

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Speaker 9: A truly absurd loophole in our auto break in statute

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Speaker 8: And one of the places where this really becomes an

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Speaker 8: If their cars get broken into, the only way for

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Speaker 8: break ins is right here in Pasadena, and they just

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Speaker 8: I had a chance to catch up with Lieutenant Keith Gomez,

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Speaker 10: And as a petty theft, the punishment, especially in La

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Speaker 10: You don't stay in jail, and there's really no consequence

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Speaker 8: Gomez tells me John that when people break into cars

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Speaker 8: They go to stadiums, movie theaters, gyms, anywhere where there's

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Speaker 8: So we'll see if Wiener can get this through. I mean,

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Speaker 8: it failed in twenty eighteen and in twenty nineteen didn't

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Speaker 2: You cannot prove your car door was locked. How the

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Speaker 8: And that's what law enforcement sources are telling me today,

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Speaker 8: And you just heard it there. There's barely a pun.

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Speaker 1: Because even if you locked the door, if somebody smashed

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Speaker 1: the scene, right, So you can't prove that it was locked.

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Speaker 1: You've already unlocked it. So they did this on purpose?

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Speaker 1: Who wrote this law? Who put that Because they did

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm looking for the origin of this law. Actually,

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Speaker 8: those situations we're seeing this play out a lot with

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Speaker 1: This is some criminal loving jackass who serves in the

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Speaker 1: an oversight, It wasn't a loophole. That was a feature

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Speaker 8: Well, I think that, you know, the third time might

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Speaker 8: John because I do think there might be a little

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Speaker 8: Maybe they'll they'll get it through this.

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Speaker 1: Ye Well, some of these politicians, they must have written

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Speaker 2: All Right, I want to stay on top of this thing.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Very much. Blake. All right, thanks John, good

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Speaker 1: You believe this when with nobody noticing, they basically made

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Speaker 1: They made it legal. Oh well was it locked? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it was locked? Well you have to prove it was locked.

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Speaker 2: Well that you can't do that, that's not possible.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, isn't that too bad? What did you like

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Speaker 1: to wring the neck of some of these legislators? It

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Speaker 1: twenty ten, So this has been going on for fourteen

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Speaker 1: were fifteen thousand auto burglaries just last year, fifteen thousand,

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Speaker 2: Because it's not against the law.

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Speaker 1: It's like going into a convenience store and stealing stuff.

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Speaker 1: We're going to a grocery store, any retail shop and

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Speaker 1: there's virtually no penalty. Wow, they must change the way

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Speaker 1: you vote. This is the year you must change the

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Speaker 1: way you vote. This has got to stop, all right.

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Speaker 1: We've got more coming up after two o'clock. Today is

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Speaker 1: Sherry Preston from ABC News, and we have some entertaining

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Speaker 1: that after two o'clock on the John Cobelt Show kf

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Speaker 6: six forty.

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Speaker 1: And after two o'clock we're going to talk with Cherry

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Speaker 1: Preston for BBC News because it's an opening day of

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Speaker 1: the election season. The Republicans have the caucus in Iowa.

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Speaker 1: You may have heard Trump, Haley and DeSantis and Ramaswami

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Speaker 1: are all still running and Trump, according to the polls,

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Speaker 1: is winning by several miles.

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Speaker 2: It's below zero. It was below zero through.

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Speaker 1: Much of the state this morning, and it's going to

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Speaker 1: be below zero tonight.

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Speaker 2: When they're actually voting.

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Speaker 1: We will get the details from Sherry coming up, and

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Speaker 1: then we have a number of Trump clips to play,

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Speaker 1: because Trump is back in the stand up comedy form.

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Speaker 1: We also have clips of anti Israel protesters chanting really

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Speaker 1: unkind things outside the White House. To Joe Biden, you're

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Speaker 1: ready for some some more airline news.

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Speaker 3: Not really, all right.

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Speaker 2: We went through the.

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Speaker 1: Apparent disaster on the assembly lines at Boeing and Spirit Aerospace,

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Speaker 1: which the Wall Street Journal chronicled in a very, very

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Speaker 1: a lot of let's say, irregularities on the production line

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Speaker 1: everything has blown sky high since that door plug went flying, Well,

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Speaker 1: listen to this one. The woke of virus has hit

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Speaker 1: the Federal Aviation Administration the FAA. The FAA is in

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Speaker 1: charge of preserving our safety on planes. I'm not making

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Speaker 1: this up. They are actively recruiting workers who suffer quote

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Speaker 1: severe intellectual disabilities and psychiatric disabilities under a new diversity

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Speaker 1: and Inclusion hiring initiative. Targeted disabilities are those that the

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Speaker 1: federal government, as a matter of policy, have identified for

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Speaker 1: special emphasis and recruiting and hiring. This includes things like

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Speaker 1: hearing vision, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability.

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Speaker 3: Wait, these are people that are going to work.

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Speaker 1: For the FAA psychiatric disability. Not Hey, I'm feeling kind

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Speaker 1: of depressed and I'm seeing a therapist once a week.

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Speaker 11: What are they going to be?

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Speaker 3: Air traffic controllers?

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Speaker 7: Do you hear about the nine one one operator that

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Speaker 7: told the firefighter something that they googled it and they

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Speaker 7: were right?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

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Speaker 7: Like there was a fire like a situation going on

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Speaker 7: and it was a nine to one one operator basically

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Speaker 7: googling in the moment how to fix the problem. And

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Speaker 7: she was telling the authority on the other end how

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Speaker 7: to fix the problem. And she was like, no, I'm right,

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Speaker 7: I googled it. I go No, I didn't hear that. Yes,

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Speaker 7: I'll find I'll find the find me, find me the audio.

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Speaker 1: What so? What is a severe intellectual disability? And how

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Speaker 1: can you do your job at the FAA?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: I mean I'm a psychiatric disability.

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Speaker 7: Boy.

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Speaker 1: There's a really rude, tasteless comedy sketch you can make

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Speaker 1: out of this.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: This is overseen by Pete Buddhajeedge and his Department of Transportation,

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Speaker 1: and they're the ones who are overseeing Boeing now over

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Speaker 1: these Max eight Max nine problems. Elon Musk wrote on

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Speaker 1: X last week, Do you want to find an airplane

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Speaker 1: where they prioritize d EI over your safety? This is

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Speaker 1: actually happening.

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Speaker 2: You cannot have You cannot.

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Speaker 1: Have severe, severely intellectually disabled and psychiatric disabled people working

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Speaker 1: for the Federal Aviation Administration in any capacity. Their whole

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Speaker 1: purpose is safety. I I what are they going to

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Speaker 1: do anyway? Because they use the word severe.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: There is there is a a stock a doctor, Stanley Goldfarb.

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Speaker 1: He's a healthcare professional, chairman of a group called Do

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Speaker 1: No Harm. These are These are doctors and medical students

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Speaker 1: trying to protect healthcare from this kind of ideology because

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Speaker 1: this is seeped into the medical industry and at medical schools.

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Speaker 1: And he says the aviation industry has a responsibility for

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Speaker 1: traveler safety. Unfortunately, identity politics is creating opportunity for so

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Speaker 1: called oppressed groups by lowering the standards for entry into

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Speaker 1: those fields and endangering the safety of those it's designed

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Speaker 1: to protect. Some endeavors do not lend themselves to identity

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Speaker 1: process identity politics. Now you can't, and I don't care

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Speaker 1: who sues me over this. You cannot hire severely intellectually

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Speaker 1: disabled people or severely psychiatric, psychiatrically compromised people at the FAA.

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Speaker 2: That that can't work. I was wrong.

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Speaker 7: It was an air traffic controller who was correcting a

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Speaker 7: pilot and I found the audio that.

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Speaker 1: The controller is saying he googled it. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: female telling the pilot that she googled the pilot of

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Speaker 1: pilot of fifteen years. You got to click down, Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Play it for a short approach if you're going to

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Speaker 11: do a power off one eighty, that's my point.

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, I will remember that from now.

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Speaker 10: On, no problem.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, when you ask for a short approach, I expect

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Speaker 11: you to turn your base and being the numbers.

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Speaker 4: This will be a full stop for six five Charlie.

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Speaker 4: And maybe we need to talk about that some more

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Speaker 4: because you're the first controller of fifteen years that's ever

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Speaker 4: said that.

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Speaker 11: Well, I'm just you know, if you ask for a

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Speaker 11: short approach, a short approach is when you turn your

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Speaker 11: base and being the numbers. If Daniel, you're a student

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Speaker 11: asking for a short approach. I know you're out there

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Speaker 11: practicing and you probably will extend, but if you're doing

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Speaker 11: something other than a short approach, don't ask for a

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Speaker 11: short approach.

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Speaker 4: Well, I will definitely look up the definition of short

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Speaker 4: approach because I've never seen where it says you turn

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Speaker 4: base of being the numbers. Because I don't see how

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Speaker 4: you could possibly do that.

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Speaker 11: Well, I googled it. Actually, I googled short approach and

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Speaker 11: effected to turn your base them or before the numbers,

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Speaker 11: and you will land probably touch down around this field.

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Speaker 2: I googled it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, then I apologize for requesting the wrong thing

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Speaker 4: because everywhere else short broke me one. But that's definitely

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Speaker 4: not what to mean to.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 11: it's because I've worked at different airports. I don't know, but.

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Speaker 3: This is terrifying.

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Speaker 7: From a small airport in Dallas, Texas.

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Speaker 3: I want to know who's right.

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Speaker 2: I googled it, you know what, but Google shouldn't decide.

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Speaker 3: I know, I'm now.

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Speaker 5: I'm just curious, though, was the pilot or the air

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Speaker 5: traffic controller correct in this situation?

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Speaker 1: The guy who's never encountered this in fifteen years or

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Speaker 1: a woman who went to Google because she didn't know

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Speaker 1: that's why she went to Google.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, Well there's gonna be more of that.

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Speaker 1: I guess she's already been hired under that Severe Intellectual

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Speaker 1: Disability campaign. More coming up Debora Mark Live in the

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