1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our. 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: We are a sibling railvalry. 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth. 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: Revely. 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 2: That's good. 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: All are very excited. 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: This is a solo episode. Yeah, I think it's servers 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: solo episode, right. 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: I think so. 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: I don't think we've done one. 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: I think we're kind of. 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: Overdue for this. We are. There's a lot to chat about. 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Well, there's you know, you you popped this thing. I 17 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: mean before we you know, we just finished with an 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: episode with somebody, and then before we were doing the episode, 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: you were like, I started reading that Alan Carr. I 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: thought you were going to see the smoking thing before 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: Alan Carr. 22 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: Did the smoking. 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: Yes, but I guess he did a drinking book. 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: Well, he's done a few how to stop books, you know, 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 3: and there were two of them in the drinking space, 26 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: which was how to quit drinking, and then there's how 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: to sort of moderate drinking. 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: And I'm assuming you want to moderate Yeah, okay, yeah, 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: is it because when you start it's like you drink 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: too much. 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: No. 32 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: I just think. 33 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 3: I when I do drink, I maybe drink too much 34 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: and I don't feel good. 35 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: And then, right, well. 36 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: You've always had that, yeah, since you were young. You 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: know you you if you drink, you don't, you usually 38 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: don't feel right. It's almost like you might have a 39 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: little bit of an allergy. 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: Maybe. 41 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: But I just know that when I work out and 42 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: I wake up and I feel good and I don't drink, 43 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: I feel great. 44 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 2: Great. 45 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, well alcohol is not great for you. 46 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this. 47 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: I mean it's alcohol and moderation obviously you know, yes, 48 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: but like if you're drinking. 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: No, no daily, right, I know. Sometimes great. 50 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: I get into a habitual pattern, right you gets or six, 51 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: I sit down in my little chair and I put 52 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: my computer on my lap, and I like have a cocktail. 53 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: And then I look up the fishing reports and I'm like, like, 54 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: I love in my life right now. 55 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I wake up in the morning. 56 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: I just feel like I don't need to cut it 57 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: and just cut it off. 58 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: I think, actually, I think, yeah, be. 59 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: More moderate, right, not stop, because you're not really like 60 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: an alcoholic. I'm just I just don't want to drink 61 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: as much. 62 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: I have a friend who recently just decided to stop drinking. 63 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: He just was like, I've done a lot of drinking 64 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: in my day, Like I'm just going to stop for 65 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: a bit and see I feel. And like it went 66 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: from like two weeks to a month to like three months. 67 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: And I was like, are you sober? 68 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: And He's like, no, I. 69 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: Just now I'm in this. Like it's almost like I'm 70 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: competitive with myself, Like if I have a drink, then like. 71 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: It starts over it right. Yeah, but he was. 72 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: Saying that he feels the best you felt in years. 73 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 3: That is true, Yeah, because I'll go, you know, ten 74 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: days or whatever days, it's incredible how great you feel. 75 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: But then there's the flip side of it, like I 76 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: missed that like feeling of sit down a cocktail. 77 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: I know, But why can't you do both your in 78 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: lives though I'm Alan Carr. Yeah, I think Alan Carr 79 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: is one thing, but it's also just about this is 80 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: one of the things that I always get asks all 81 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: the time. It's like, how do you balance your life? 82 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: How do you balance you know, your career and kids? 83 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: How do you balance like your career and kids and 84 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: working out and food and the thing is like this 85 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: lifestyle concept, like the concept of you know, living a 86 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: certain lifestyle really exists best when things are in moderation. 87 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: The second you start stressing over anything is is where 88 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: things start to become and balanced. I think this is 89 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: just my own dumb theory. So you can you can 90 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: take it might be good, it might be not, but 91 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, so for me, it's like, you know, is 92 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: it about, Okay, the super regimented you need to be 93 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: like very structured and regimented. I would want to go 94 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: deeper and to try to understand. 95 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: What is in their life. 96 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: It's caused them to have to have so much structure 97 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: in order to live healthy versus people that can you know, 98 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: have a very like normal routine and sit in it 99 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: and have ease. And you know, I think there's like 100 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: I think there's a way that we that we can 101 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: balance our lives where we're not kind of trying to 102 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: overthink things. Yes, and then then when you get into 103 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: the sort of like excessive, like heatedistic approach of like 104 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: I need everything, like I need. 105 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: Pure assumption of all vices. 106 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's also just it's an imbalance. 107 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what is that? 108 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: How do we create balance without having to feel the 109 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: stress of like, oh I'm not doing it right or 110 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, and I think. 111 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: That is that's the sweet spot. 112 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: Yes, right, I agree, and it's hard. Well, everyone's a 113 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 3: little bit different. Some people need more structure. I think 114 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: for me, structure is better when I can ructure out 115 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: my day and say I'm gonna do this, this, this, 116 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: I got a podcast, I'm going to meditate it. This time, 117 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to ride my journal here, I'm gonna sit 118 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 3: down and write for an hour and then once that 119 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 3: time is up, if I keep going, great, If not, 120 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: that I got the kids and there's an accomplishment. You know, 121 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: idle time is no good. We're just sitting around, you know. 122 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 3: I need structure. That's better for me. And it's just 123 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: about it's going back to the drinking. It's having like 124 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: one or two drinks, you know what I mean, and 125 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: now having like ten. 126 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: Oh well maybe you are. 127 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: An alcol No, I mean not ten. But like you know, 128 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: you get in boring and they're like, I. 129 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: Was thinking about this the other day and now I know, 130 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: like I posted this like stupid thing, right, and I 131 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: was like dancing and I literally was dancing in my 132 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: in my in my gym too. I was putting on 133 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: all my old favorite songs. I posted it like not 134 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: thinking about what it was, right, it was just like fine, 135 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: I thought it was. 136 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 2: I think it's funny, it's like us, it's. 137 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: And I realized that things like that get the most attention, 138 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: the most likes. And then like the random people who 139 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: are like that don't they don't understand it at all, 140 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: the sense. 141 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: Of humor or what it is. 142 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: They just they don't get like having fun. Everyone has 143 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: an opinion, everybody has something to say, you know, you know, 144 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: comparing you to other people, and you realize like, oh, 145 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: this is just people are just bored. And the bottom 146 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: line is is that it's sad because we really, we 147 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: really should be celebrating people's like openness and and and 148 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, we should just be celebrating each other. 149 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then there's but there's so many there's three 150 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty million people in America and then more 151 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: in the world obviously, and so you're going to get 152 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: cross sections of all kinds of people who are going 153 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: to look at that or look at some of the 154 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: things that I say and be like, hey, no, he's 155 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: just speaking him truth. 156 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: Whatever. 157 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: Wait, the fact that it matters is problematic, meaning like 158 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things in the world that really 159 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: matter for us to be focusing on, right, for one 160 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: to really be honing in on, And when anyone's focus 161 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: becomes something that ridiculous, it's kind of problematic because it's like, 162 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, that's what grabs the interest of somebody, and 163 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: if that's really what's grabbing somebody's interests, like. 164 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 2: Our world is really i you know, and. 165 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: And and and so it kind of highlights it kind 166 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: of highlights this sort of microscope that everyone thinks they're under. 167 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: They forget like nobody's under a microscope. 168 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: Just like with your. 169 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: Life, just have fun, say what you want to say. 170 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: If you're if you. 171 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: Know in your life that you are living a good 172 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: you're a good person. If you're living a healthy life, 173 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: if you're a good person, if your goal is to 174 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: make people feel good happy, if you're if you're raising 175 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: your children the best you know how, putting your all 176 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: into it, if you're working as hard as you possibly can, 177 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: then you're then you're winning. 178 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: Period. 179 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: It is a matter what anyone chooses to see or 180 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: how they choose to see it. What matters is that 181 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: that is that is that is absolute best thing you 182 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: can do. And like even kids, the pressure that kids 183 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: are feeling with social media and they're like all of 184 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: this stuff, we have created a disaster of people like 185 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: only seeing themselves through these other lenses when really they 186 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: should feel the freedom of just seeing it through their 187 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: own lenses and not worrying about what other people think. 188 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: Because social media is interesting, sort of creating clones, Like 189 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: I see a thousand of Wilders. 190 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: Walking down the street. That's just now. 191 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: I think it's just it's it's just spread, you know, 192 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: just because it's all the trends, it's all the stuff. 193 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: I mean, Rianna knows way more music, current music than 194 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: I do. Songs. 195 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: Come on, she's singing and what is this? Yeah, it's 196 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: just in the world YouTube reels. 197 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: Or whatever the hell is nowadays, you know. 198 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the biggest thing for our wellness is 199 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: to shut these things off. I think that the the 200 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: one thing we're missing in the home for a lot 201 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: of families is that five o'clock dinner time. Yeah, that 202 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: where where families gather, where you have to eat, you 203 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: have to talk about you're kind of forced to talk 204 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,479 Speaker 1: about the day. You're forced to gather out of sustenance, 205 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: but that substance at the family unit. No matter what 206 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: your family unit looks like, it doesn't matter if it's 207 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: some antiquated concept of family unit has to be. 208 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 2: Hasard, wife, kids, it could be whatever it is. 209 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: That unit, that time is where you shut down and 210 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: you connect. 211 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: And like, I think that that. 212 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: Is it is like like when people talk about wellness, 213 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: like family dinner, even if it's like with your friends 214 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: on college, Like hey guys, every day Thursday, we gather 215 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: at this person's dorm room and we sit with our 216 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, ramen, and we're gonna phone phones go away, 217 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: Like that's the thing that's missing. And I read this 218 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: great article I think is in the Atlantic or something 219 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: about the dumb phone that they're they're like on the rise. 220 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: And it's the flip phone. 221 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: That they're on the rise because people are putting their 222 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: smartphones away because it's too distracting to their life. And 223 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: people who are getting on the dumb phones, the flip phones, 224 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: the ones that don't have basically a computer to it, 225 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: are finding that they're significantly happier, way less anxious. 226 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: So basically they use it for phone calls, like not 227 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 3: even text like. 228 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: Let's say you're going out with your family to dinner, 229 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: you take your dumb phone. Yeah, and the only way 230 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: someone can read it's a text, like only you're really like, 231 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: I mean. 232 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: You can use it however you want. You got business 233 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: on there. 234 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: Too, but you're not going to be doing the like 235 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: emails and ship when you're on your dumphone, right, someone 236 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: has to call you to be like, hey, man, sorry 237 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: to disturb your dinner, but you really got to call 238 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: so and so because they're waiting for your call. 239 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 2: I love it. 240 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: And so when you're sitting there with your family instead 241 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: of talking to instead of going like, oh wait, let 242 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: me look and hey, let's look on our phone to 243 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: see like what's going on over here, you're actually forced 244 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: to just completely be present. 245 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: With your family. I like the dumb phone. 246 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 4: I know. 247 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: I think that they should only allow those in school. 248 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. Is there a market for the dumphone. 249 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: Yes, it's it's like booming, like the dumb phone is 250 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: becoming a cool thing. I'm going to give my kids 251 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: the dumb phone. I'm taking their phones away from them 252 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: for school fun to see what I think we should 253 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: do that for for the new for back to school. 254 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and see what happens. 255 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: The first month of school. We're going to give all 256 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: of the Hudson kids the dumb phone and they can 257 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: leave their iPhone home. When they get home, they can 258 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: get back on their iPhone. 259 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: I like it, but the phone to me is almost 260 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: a sense of anxiety these days, where you're looking at 261 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: you're like, oh my god, like it's so nice when 262 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: it's not near you. 263 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, email emails are. 264 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: Are That's why I like my computer better. Well that's what. 265 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: I've only started looking at. I've done this thing now. 266 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: I think it's different for people who work in different future. Okay, 267 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: so so if I, like, if I was day to 268 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: day on any of my businesses, I wouldn't be able. 269 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: Then nobody cannot look at their emails and run a business, 270 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: Like it's just that's just insane, right. But as a 271 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: creative person who has to like learn lines beyond set, 272 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: be present, create characters or when I'm writing like music 273 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: or whatever I have to, I have to that has 274 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: to go away. So I've kind of had to create 275 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: days that are my business days. That's what I've been 276 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: doing lately. I change it up all the time to 277 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: see what works. Lately, I'm like, Monday is my office day, 278 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: and I do all my emails and I do all 279 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: my stuff and then I basically let everybody know that 280 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: I will not be looking at my email like Friday. 281 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm also working. Now. I hate them so much. 282 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: I know you're working. 283 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: You got to learn lines, You got to you know, 284 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,119 Speaker 3: you can shut it down easier, better excuses. 285 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: God, it's hard to shut it down. Will you. 286 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: Promise me that you will promise? Yeah, you have promise. 287 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: Let's just let's just let's make this pact that even 288 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: if it last a week for the kids, that we 289 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: are going to get them from school. 290 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: So from like eight to three. 291 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: In September, we're going to have like a little get 292 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: back to school gift with them. We're gonna get them 293 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: all flip no keys that are quite different now, they're 294 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: like newer and other things, and we're going to be like, 295 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: you guys are going to start a trend in school 296 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: and you're going to be the cool kids or the 297 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: flip phones. So you're going to have a dumb phone 298 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: from eight to three, and then you can have your 299 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: iPhone when you come home. 300 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: Your iPhone is left at home when you go to 301 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: school I like it, I'll do it. Okay, I'll do it. 302 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: I'll do it, and. 303 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: Then we can talk about it around around October next 304 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: this year. 305 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: But do we have to have dumb phone? 306 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm getting a dumb phone because I want to go 307 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: to dinner with my family and not have my cell phone. 308 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: Right, not have my smartphone. Yeah, I want to. 309 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: I want to be in Greece with you guys with 310 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: the dumb phone. 311 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, got the The pictures might be the pictures and 312 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: it might be nice to go to sit out and look. 313 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: At the news. No it's not. 314 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: You know what, Well, let's let's try. Let's try to 315 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: make it cool for the kids and get no Kia 316 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: flip phones. 317 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: By the way, those were cool back. 318 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: And then next thing, you know, and Christmas time, we're gonna. 319 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: Get them pagers going back and back and back. 320 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: By the way, the pay the pager. The pager would 321 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: be really cool if they all there's no way. Yeah, 322 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: like doctors, of course, But pager is a great idea 323 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: because you can actually get to your kids in class. 324 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. You can like text them one four three, Yeah, 325 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna look into the pager. You can text them 326 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: on the phones they. 327 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: Can't bring their phones in the class. The page the 328 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: wild they look down and see a number seven. Kill 329 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: you for like ling our kids in class? 330 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: We like you know, it's like three zero zero eight. 331 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: We get called into the station. 332 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 2: We're just having so much fun. 333 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: Okay, I like this conversation. I feel like I feel 334 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: like I overtook it. I feel like I talked the 335 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: whole time. 336 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: That's good, it's good. You need it. 337 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 3: I'm down to uh do the dumb phone without a doubt. 338 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: And then as. 339 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: Far as my alcoholism go, this like Alan Carr does 340 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: the smoking thing. You read the book and then when 341 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 3: you're done with it, you sort of just drink when 342 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: when you're reading the book, and then when you're done 343 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: with it it you know then you have moderated your 344 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 3: drinking or you have a better idea of why you should. Okay, 345 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 3: the thing is I can stop drinking, meaning I like it. 346 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 3: But if I say I'm not going to drink for 347 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 3: seven days, it's not a hard thing to stop drinking 348 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 3: for seven days. It's it's more licensed, more volume, Like 349 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: a couple of glasses of wine, don't drink the whole bottle. 350 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: Right, I know, I get going. 351 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: I have like two more glasses and families of like, 352 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: let's let's go lat thing and nang and nang. 353 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 2: But well we're together. That's kind of what happened. 354 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: No, I know, but I know what you're saying, Like 355 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: you wish you just have like two glasses or glass that. 356 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: Have that's an alf of wine. You smoke a little 357 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: and then you're good. 358 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well let's do Okay, let's see what happens. Yeah, 359 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: so we asked some of our listeners to ask questions 360 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: and now we're going. 361 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: To answer them. 362 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, next time you had a great idea, I want 363 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: to get their audio recording. 364 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is fun. So we get really be fun 365 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 2: to do live. But that might be a little nuts. 366 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I would love that. We like sake zones. It's 367 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: like General Ester from Albert of Texas there with Oliver 368 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: that's like Ryan Seacrest. Isn't Ryan Seacrest. 369 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's got a whole setup, you know. 370 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 3: But it would be fun to do live that, It 371 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 3: would be hysterical. I think we should do that. 372 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: We should get totally off the. 373 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: We should do that. Okay, this is from Susie. Uh. 374 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: Susie's question is how long have you gone without talking 375 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: to each other because of a disagreement? Great question, Uh, 376 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: not long. But there was a moment where I was like, 377 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: I was not. 378 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 4: Having it with my brothers me too. What yeah, when 379 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 4: I don't want to say you're talking about I was 380 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: just not having it with you at some point when 381 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 4: I don't know, a few years ago, where was I 382 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 4: in England? 383 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: Aund? 384 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: No, you we were together. It was it was it 385 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: was a deal situation. 386 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was not having you. 387 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: And then similarly, it seems that it was just everything 388 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 3: yours was work related. In mind was work related right 389 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 3: because you said brother Yeah right, yeah, so it's sort 390 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 3: of a work related thing, both of them both separate, 391 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: but it worked, seemed to work. 392 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: Out all right. How you feel it still? God, Susie, 393 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 2: why did you have to bring this up? 394 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: No? 395 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: No, no, honestly fine. But but I I think to 396 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: answer Susie's question, and being the only girl is probably 397 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: more challenging with disagreements, especially if it's family related. 398 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 3: That never had a disagreement where we have not spoken 399 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: to each other, That is a more of an emotional 400 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 3: personal thing. 401 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: To be honest, I think that as communicative as we are, 402 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: we're not that communicative. Ill. 403 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 2: We had a therapy session, we. 404 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: Did yes, and I got nothing out. I feel like 405 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: it's harder for you to confront things. 406 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: You're not exactly what. 407 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: You don't like talking about stuff I don't talking you 408 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: don't like talking it out. 409 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 2: I can go off the rails. I know. 410 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like instead of just like actively listening 411 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: and then you know what, you know what we should do? 412 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: You know we should do it should be really good. 413 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: Is doctor John Gotman for like love relationships. They also 414 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: do it for family. Have this active listening tool, which 415 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: is you write everything that you can't say anything. Well, 416 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: that's how I communicate best, and so well, no, you 417 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: have to know that's not that's not a mouse. 418 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: No. 419 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: You you basically if I'm like, okay, this is how 420 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: I feel when you did this, and you have to 421 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: write every word out of what I'm saying to you 422 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: and you can't say anything, you then have to repeat, 423 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 1: you have to read it, read it out. You know 424 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: when this happened, you felt like this, and then you 425 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 1: validate as you go along. So if I say, you know, 426 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: when that happened, I felt so alone, then you have 427 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: to go I had totally I really understand why you feel. 428 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: Alone, even if I don't. 429 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: No, no, if you don't, then you don't validate it, 430 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, but you don't. You don't to tell someone 431 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: how they're supposed to feel that they shouldn't feel that way, right, 432 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: And usually. 433 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: That doesn't happen. But I understand that concept for sure. 434 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: But aren't people's feelings sometimes irrational? Even though you might 435 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: feel that way or I might feel that way. 436 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: You respect that that it's that person's feelings. But what 437 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: if those feelings. 438 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: Are both like, well, dude, I mean the respect that 439 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: you feel that way, but you're not right. 440 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: Well, that wouldn't work. 441 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that that's probably that's how you think. 442 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: That's not what you would say. 443 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: No, it's more like it's more like okay. So that's 444 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: the first part of the of the tool, and then 445 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 1: after that there's a series of questions, and part of 446 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: that is is there anything about this that triggers anything 447 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: from your childhood or that is there a reason why 448 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: you're more you know, sensitive to these things or something 449 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: I should know about? And you would go, yeah, because 450 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: like growing up when you know, I don't know this 451 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: happened with that, this person in my life. It made 452 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: me feel like this, and so I'm very sensitive to that. 453 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: So instead of it being like, oh, your feelings are irrational, 454 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: you kind of get to know the. 455 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: Person and you do this your family. 456 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: You can do it with your relationship. You can do 457 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: it with your family, you can do it with even 458 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: like a business partner. Right. But but it's really it's 459 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: really in conflict. So it's like, Okay, I need to, 460 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: I need to I have to talk this out with you. 461 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: And it allows the other person to actively listen versus 462 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: defend because you're sort of forced into this, right. It's 463 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: really honestly, it's like in a relationship, it's fucking amazing. 464 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: And you do it when you're calm and everything's good, 465 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: and you kind of look at it and you're like, 466 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: oh yeah, and it brings you. You get to know 467 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: people deeper. Right, you know that's good? All right, I'll 468 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: try it, Susie. Thanks, great, Thanks, We're going to figure 469 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: out that disagreement because you just brought up that we haven't. 470 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 3: Once once this episode ends, no words, I'm just getting 471 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 3: in my car and getting out of here. Okay, you 472 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 3: did the nice amount of Alexis, how do I try 473 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 3: to relate to my brother that's eight years older than me. 474 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 3: I'm a twenty four year old girl, and we don't 475 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 3: have a. 476 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: Lot in common. 477 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: Oh well, that's actually probably for me the answer, because 478 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: I have a brother that's seven years younger, and there 479 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 1: was actually a time where I felt like, not that 480 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: we didn't have anything common. I actually feel like I 481 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: have a lot in common with Wyatt, but I just 482 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: felt like I felt I didn't close to him because 483 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: we were so far apart in age and hadn't spent 484 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: a lot of time together. 485 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: So I feel like, I think that you have to 486 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: we'll do. 487 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 3: Make an effort. When you're twenty four. That means he's 488 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 3: thirty two, right, Yeah, years older. An effort has to 489 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 3: be made. Yeahs having a lot in common, that sounds 490 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 3: like you've got to find out what you have in 491 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 3: common really sort of get together. 492 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: I also think these are moments where you being vulnerable matters, 493 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: where you can you say yeah, where you say to 494 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: your brother, like I want to feel closer to you, 495 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, I want to feel more connected. I miss 496 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: you and I want to get to know you better. 497 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: And I like that. 498 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's great because, like I think that's 499 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: the hardest part for anyone is to just be that vulnerable. 500 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: It's fucking hard to be honest. Yeah, it's not easy. Yeah, 501 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: I mean especially for me, maybe men, I don't know, 502 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: But I think that's a good. I think that's a 503 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: good you know, because you might not have a lot 504 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: in common. I mean just because your siblings doesn't mean 505 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: but I guess if your siblings, you do have a 506 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: lot in common, Like the very foundation of your childhood 507 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: is similar, and that's a huge common awy can build 508 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: things as well, if you're willing to. Yeah, I would 509 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: say that would be My advice is to actually just 510 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: be vulnerable and say, you know, I've been thinking a 511 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: lot about this, and I know you're thirty two and 512 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm twenty four, and we're in different seasons of our life, 513 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: but I really want to get to know you better 514 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: and be closer. 515 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: What is this whole seasons thing? 516 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: The different seasons of your life? You know, season can 517 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: change from day to day. That's right, that's the whole word. No, No, 518 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: seasons aren't like a day to day. Seasons are like 519 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: where you are in your life. Like in one moment, 520 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: you're single and you know in this place and then 521 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: the next you know, you're in the aggrieving season because 522 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: someone passes. The next year in you know, a divorce season, 523 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: a time in your life. Yeah, we are happening that 524 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: are like really. 525 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: Changing a season means shame. Changing seasons. 526 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want I can tell by your face 527 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: you hate that. 528 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: I don't know all the all the mindful buzzwords. Sometimes 529 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, but it's it's good. 530 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: I like it because I just come in out of 531 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: every every other day. I mean, so what do you 532 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: call that? Well, you know, well, what season are you 533 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: in right now? Oh? 534 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm in my I'm in my, I'm I'm in change 535 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: A big changing season for me. Mine is like coming 536 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: into that place where I really like am putting myself 537 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: out there creatively. And that's big for me because I 538 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: feel very exposed. Like having my first interview about the album, 539 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: it's like I left, I had I had like really 540 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: kind of like remember like fuck it, I'm doing this 541 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: for a reason. 542 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: I have to put myself out here. 543 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it feels exposed for people just to be like, 544 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, as they do anyway judge, but like yeah, 545 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: so anyway, okay, okay from Okay Kendall Kate. As a sister, 546 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: how do you tell your brother to have better hygiene 547 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: without hurting his well. 548 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: All of yours? There you go right there. Yeah, we're 549 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: not very sensitive with those things. No, no, no, I 550 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: want to be told straight up. 551 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to be sensitive about it. 552 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: It's your brother or your sister or whatever some bad. 553 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: Say Hey, yeah, like and if I go into or like, 554 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: you need to get your ship together? 555 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: Right? 556 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you smell you need both tucks? 557 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: What's going on? You bet a fucking facial something. I 558 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. 559 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: What are these shoes? Get your shoes? Yeah, I'm super 560 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm super honest. 561 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: I think to answer the question, you will not hurt 562 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 3: his feelings if you're being honest. 563 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: But if he's sensitive, because I mean there are we 564 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: also aren't very. 565 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: Sensitive about those things. 566 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: If he has a sensitive spirit, then I would say, 567 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, I love you and I want you to 568 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: like be in your best self, and I just have 569 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: to tell you that you have to get your you 570 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: have to brush your teeth like it's driving me. 571 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 3: Or you have a humors way, you know, there's a 572 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 3: way to lighten the mood. 573 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, take them to coffee and go I'm taking 574 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: you to coffee right to tell you that you're discussing. 575 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 3: Right alread, you just asking a simple question to say, 576 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: when you go and sit on the toilet to take 577 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: a poop, do you smell your butt before anything comes out? 578 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: Oh? Why would you say that? 579 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 3: Because then you know he has bad hygiene because he 580 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: hasn't washed his butt. 581 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: And why, oh why did you have to go to 582 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: the butt of all hygiene? That's disgusting. I don't know, no, 583 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: but here, Honestly, the thing about hygiene is it does 584 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: reflect someone's mental state as well, like people who aren't 585 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: showering or aren't like brushing their hair, or you know, 586 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: they're not putting you know, hair. 587 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: I don't even brush my hair in my life. 588 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: No, but I mean, like you know, like like right 589 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: for women, but for women, like you can tell when 590 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: someone is not feeling good about themselves. So like, if 591 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: that's what's happening, then I think that it's a bigger 592 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: conversation than just like you know, Oliver, and you know, 593 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, right, I like being out fishing, right, 594 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: like not stinking? 595 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would just say use humor, be direct, 596 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 3: see what happens. Okay from Emma, Yeah, how would you 597 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 3: handle if you don't like your siblings significant. 598 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: Oh we don't have that. I know, we don't have that. 599 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: That's it. That would be that would suck. That would 600 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 2: be really rough. I mean, I don't know, I don't 601 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 2: know what we have the best all. 602 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sisters and brothers, everybody, like even the families 603 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: love each other. 604 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: It's pretty We got lucky. You definitely got lucky. I don't. 605 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what. Imagine if you 606 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: were married or with someone who I just did not like. 607 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 2: When I'm like this person, how do you deal with that? 608 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: I'd probably leave him? 609 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: You would, Yeah, my family didn't like the guy. I'd 610 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: be like, this isn't Yeah, I feel like a lot. 611 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. This is a tough one. Okay. From 612 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 2: a different perspective, how would you handle it if you 613 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: don't like your You know what I mean? I would 614 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 2: say it? What would you say? Stands your wife? 615 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 1: I'd be like Oliver, Oliver, She's terrible, right, I really would. 616 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: I'd be like, I don't know what. 617 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: You're doing, like she's so mean, or or like how 618 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: do you connect with her. She's like, how would you 619 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: would if I would have? 620 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 2: Then you don't like her. 621 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 3: I appreciate that, but I'm in love and this is 622 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck you want me to do. 623 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to deal with it. And how 624 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: are you going to deal with that? I'd probably tell her, 625 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: you'd just be like, you need to be nicer. I 626 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 2: probably would just go up to the sister in Longo. 627 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 2: Here's the deal. I love my brother. 628 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: I have a hard time with you, and I don't 629 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: know what that is. I hope it changes, but I 630 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: think you're kind of mean sometimes. I don't know I'm 631 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: making these happens. You are like or like you don't 632 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: get our sense of humor as a family really funny 633 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: and like or how about I don't like how you 634 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: break my brother or I don't like how you boss 635 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: my brother around. It bugs me and it and I 636 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: have a problem with it. So I just want you 637 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: to know that and. 638 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: Let's have a good ques give. 639 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, see you honesty is. 640 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: You're very direct that way. 641 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 3: I would probably could shouldered a little bit, you know 642 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 3: what I mean? 643 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: I make God, it's too passive. 644 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 3: It's passive aggressive, but i'd be like, I don't want 645 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 3: to deal with it, So I'm not going to you know, 646 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 3: I'm not going to fake it, but to kind of 647 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: be like, oh yeah, yeah, okay, because what am I 648 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 3: going to accomplish by telling the significant other that I 649 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 3: don't like them? 650 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: Oh? Well, I think it's just it's like, it's not 651 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: like you don't like I mean, you're not saying you 652 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: don't like them. You're saying this is I have a 653 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: hard time with this, And so you know, I want 654 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: you to know when I don't want to talk to you, 655 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: it's because you're bothered. If you want to get to 656 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: know me and understand why I don't like this. Like 657 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: I remember one time I had to say to my 658 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: friend of mine's husband, I didn't like the way he 659 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 1: was talking to her. And I said, and I kept 660 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: in front of them, I said, I'm going to stop you. 661 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 2: Guys. 662 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,959 Speaker 1: If you're going to talk to my friend this way, 663 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: you need to get out of my house. I love you, guys, 664 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: but like I'm not doing that right because I by 665 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: the way, you might love it. You guys might love this, 666 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: but like I can't sit here and watch my friend 667 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: get spoken to like that, and he actually took it 668 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: really well. He was like, I'm so sorry, and I 669 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I just honestly like, this isn't fun 670 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: for me, and this is supposed to be a party. 671 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: I like, and and that's my girl. That's my girlfriend, 672 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: and she might not be in a place to stand 673 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: up for herself, but you're in my house, so I'm 674 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: going to do that. 675 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 2: And I do that to my brothers too. 676 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: Even if you were mad at me, I'd be like, 677 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't I'm I don't like this, or. 678 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 3: You send I'd send an anonymous letter to the significant other, 679 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 3: just saying leave so and so or you're dead like that. 680 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I would also like to do that. 681 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: And then I'd be like okay, and I'd like cut on. 682 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: Like the Rolling Stones, I'd be like, let's arty, Okay, 683 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: that was we should do those more on. 684 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 2: I like how the quick they are like bang bang bang, yeah, 685 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 686 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 3: They're not like the long emails, which is fun too, Yeah, 687 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 3: but these are like the quick questions, like they're almost 688 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 3: rapid fire for me. 689 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: And you, yeah, which which I really enjoyed. Thank you 690 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: guys for sending you in and alli