WEBVTT - Prince (Pt. 2): Bodyguards, Guns, Gangs, and a Revolution

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<v Speaker 1>Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the story about a murder.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the story of a band member with a gun

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<v Speaker 1>shoved in his face, a bodyguard selling his boss's story

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<v Speaker 1>for drug money. It's the story of an earthquake, a

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<v Speaker 1>cop stuck with a dirty AIDS infected needle, of a

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<v Speaker 1>beating with a baseball bat. It's the story of a

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<v Speaker 1>revolution and a Sign of the Times. It is, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>a story about Prince, a man who might be the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest pop musician of all time, a man who made

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<v Speaker 1>great music, some of the greatest music ever made. Unlike

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<v Speaker 1>that music, I played a few at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the show that wasn't great music. That was a preset

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<v Speaker 1>loop from my melotron called Brown Mark's Lament MK one.

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<v Speaker 1>I played you that loop because I can't afford the

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<v Speaker 1>rights to live in on a Prayer by bon Jovi.

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<v Speaker 1>And why would I play you that specific slice of

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<v Speaker 1>slippery when wet Cheese? Could I afford it? Because that

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<v Speaker 1>was the number one song in America on February eighteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty seven, And that was the day that Prince

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<v Speaker 1>released the song Sign of the Times, his first single

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<v Speaker 1>in four years. Without his legendary band The Revolution, a

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<v Speaker 1>song from an album about death, rebirth, change, crime and

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<v Speaker 1>strife from one of the greatest to ever do it.

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode, Bodyguards, drug habits, guns, gangs, and oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>an ejaculating guitar and I mentioned the ejaculating guitar and

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<v Speaker 1>of course Prince, I'm Jake Brennan and this is disgrace slant.

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<v Speaker 1>As Prince stood up in the audience to accept the

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<v Speaker 1>first of three American Music Awards in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>His bodyguard, Charles.

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<v Speaker 1>Huntsbury aka Big Chick, stood up with Big Chick came

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<v Speaker 1>as advertised six foot eight, three hundred or maybe four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred something pounds, depending on who you asked. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>big white dude in a big white Sanda beard wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a big old black wife beater. He was not just

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<v Speaker 1>a protector, but he was an ally, the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>guy who, when he walked into an establishment alongside a

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<v Speaker 1>black member of Prince's band, would immediately clock the racist

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<v Speaker 1>shit heads inside say without hesitation, this is my friend

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<v Speaker 1>and if you little pussies have a problem with him,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have a problem with me. Big Chick was

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<v Speaker 1>Prince's big shadow and Prince, all five foot two of them,

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<v Speaker 1>though a little taller tonight on account of those heels

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<v Speaker 1>he was wearing, cut a path to the stage with purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>where representatives of the previous generation the Beach Boys, handed

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<v Speaker 1>him his award. He strolled to the mic and said, simply,

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<v Speaker 1>said very much.

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<v Speaker 2>No one else brought.

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<v Speaker 1>Their bodyguard with them to the American Music Awards that night,

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<v Speaker 1>But there was no one else like Prince, not that night,

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<v Speaker 1>not any night. But on January twenty eighth, nineteen eighty five,

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<v Speaker 1>the evening of the American Music Awards, no one could

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<v Speaker 1>do what Prince could do, which specifically was beat Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson in his unbeatable album Thriller in the Favorite Pop

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<v Speaker 1>Album category. Right now, Prince was no longer in the ascendant.

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<v Speaker 1>At twenty six years old, Prince was at the mountaintop.

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<v Speaker 1>The album for which he won those awards, Purple Rain,

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<v Speaker 1>was also the soundtrack to the movie of the same name,

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<v Speaker 1>released the year prior, a number one movie that generated

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<v Speaker 1>two number one singles, When Doves Cry and Let's Go Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But the most impressive statistic was that now, in January

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen eighty five, the album Slash soundtrack Purple Rain

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<v Speaker 1>had just ended its twenty four week streak at number

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<v Speaker 1>one on the Billboard Album Chart. Twenty four weeks, that's

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<v Speaker 1>six months. If you don't want to do the math,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not alone. Prince didn't want to do the

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<v Speaker 1>math either. Prince just wanted to do things the way he.

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<v Speaker 2>Wanted them done.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing it his way was how he made his first

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<v Speaker 1>album For You back in nineteen seventy eight, while he

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<v Speaker 1>was still just a teenager. He produced it, arranged it,

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<v Speaker 1>and performed everything entirely by himself. Doing it his way

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<v Speaker 1>was how he made his third album, Dirty Mind, at

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty. That record's raw, funk and brazen lyrical content

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<v Speaker 1>was so game changing that the Village Voice rock critic

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<v Speaker 1>Robert chris Gau wrote, and I quote, Mick Jagger can

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<v Speaker 1>just fold up his penis and go home. And his

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<v Speaker 1>way was also the only way when it came to

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<v Speaker 1>training his band, The Revolution. The rehearsals went on for

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<v Speaker 1>hours with no interruptions. And you better learn to play

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<v Speaker 1>that bass with one hand so that if you get hungry,

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<v Speaker 1>you can make a sandwich with the other hand and

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<v Speaker 1>not miss a beat. You want bathroom breaks, go ask

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Springsteen if he's hiring and speaking to Bruce.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get back to.

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<v Speaker 1>The evening of January twenty eighth, nineteen eighty five, because

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<v Speaker 1>on this night, immediately following the awards ceremony, the Boss

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<v Speaker 1>and every other major artist in the room are headed

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<v Speaker 1>over to A and M Studios in Hollywood. There they'll

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<v Speaker 1>record a charity single to benefit famine in Ethiopia called

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<v Speaker 1>We Are the World but not Prince corneass supergroup charity

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<v Speaker 1>songs follow that under things Prince does not want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean Prince isn't coming? Quincy Jones was pissed.

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<v Speaker 1>The iconic arranger and producer had assembled a who's who

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<v Speaker 1>of talent for this song, Michael Lionel, Cindy Huey, Bobby, Billy, Tina,

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<v Speaker 1>both Kennies. But if he didn't have Prince, the man

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<v Speaker 1>of the hour, the man who dominated popular culture for

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<v Speaker 1>the last six months, and what did he really have?

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<v Speaker 1>Prince's manager, Bob Cavallo could sense Q's patience wearing thin,

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<v Speaker 1>so we threw him a bone. Prince says he'll come

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<v Speaker 1>play guitar on that track. Quincy Jones was now straight

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<v Speaker 1>up offended.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need him to play guitar, Bob.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got fucking guitars, and Bob Cavallo panicked. He lied

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<v Speaker 1>and told Quincy that the real reason Prince couldn't make.

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<v Speaker 2>It it was because he was sick.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he hung up and called his client Prince

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<v Speaker 1>and made it very clear that because of that lie,

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<v Speaker 1>it was imperative that Prince lail for the evening. Prince

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<v Speaker 1>heard this kind of thing his whole life. Do this,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that. As a kid, his father forbade him

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<v Speaker 1>from playing his family piano, and because his father, an

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<v Speaker 1>accomplished jazz musician, saw himself as the talent in the family,

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<v Speaker 1>and the one with the talent was the one who

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<v Speaker 1>get to play. And of course Prince was not just

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<v Speaker 1>as good as his father, but far better. He had

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<v Speaker 1>that pure God given ability from an early age. But

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<v Speaker 1>I firmly believe that it was this gatekeeping that drove Prince,

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<v Speaker 1>first as an unknown and then as an award winning icon,

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<v Speaker 1>to prove not just to his dad but to the

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<v Speaker 1>whole world that he could play better than anyone on

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<v Speaker 1>any instrument. And by the time of Purple Rain, that talent,

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<v Speaker 1>that fame, and that power it was a potent combination

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<v Speaker 1>that any twenty six year old would find hard to handle.

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<v Speaker 1>As Wendy melvoy and the Revolution's other guitarist, said, Prince

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<v Speaker 1>at this time was quote almost like a kid with

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<v Speaker 1>too much candy unquote. And Prince was and sharing his candy,

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<v Speaker 1>not with Quincy Jones or Kenny Rogers or Kenny Loggins

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<v Speaker 1>or Kenny whoever the fuck. So not only was Prince

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<v Speaker 1>not participating in We Are the World, he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to ignore the advice of his manager go hit the

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<v Speaker 1>town and party like it was well, you know. First

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<v Speaker 1>off was Carlos and Charlie's, a Mexican joint on the

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<v Speaker 1>Sunset step Prince and the Revolution. That's Wendy Melvoyne, along

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<v Speaker 1>with keyboardists Lisa Coleman and Matt doctor Fink, bassist Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Brown aka Brown Mark, and drummer Bobby z. They had

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<v Speaker 1>the run of the place and after some food, they

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<v Speaker 1>all transitioned upstairs to l Pravado, which, yes, movie Ben

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<v Speaker 1>was a private club where the band could be treated

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<v Speaker 1>like the VIP rock star as they were. But Wendy

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest of the Revolution weren't feeling the VIP vibe,

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<v Speaker 1>especially while their peers were collaborating on a collective good deed.

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<v Speaker 1>Prince told him the chill to the victor, go the spoils. Besides,

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<v Speaker 1>who is gonna find out. It was late when they

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<v Speaker 1>left the club and Prince, flanked by his shadow of

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<v Speaker 1>Big Chick and his other bodyguard, Wally Safford, slipped into

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<v Speaker 1>a car outside on the strip. As they did so,

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<v Speaker 1>the other rear passenger door flung open and a man

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<v Speaker 1>with a camera jumped inside and began snapping photos.

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<v Speaker 2>Prince was startled. He threw up his.

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<v Speaker 1>Hands in front of his face and then just blurted out,

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<v Speaker 1>get the film, get the film.

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<v Speaker 2>And the photographer quickly bailed. Pauling ass on foot down.

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<v Speaker 1>Sunset bodyguard Wally Safford gave Chase and the sight of

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<v Speaker 1>this very capable man, a man who learned his trade

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<v Speaker 1>from the Nation of Islam and had paid his dues

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<v Speaker 1>protecting hot shot bands from the Commodore's to Parliament, funking

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<v Speaker 1>delic set more paparazzi running out of the shadows. Wally

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<v Speaker 1>didn't care about the rest of him. He just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>that fucker who had taken the photos of Prince in

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<v Speaker 1>the car. Wally closed in, and the photographer stopped, turned

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<v Speaker 1>around and took a swing at Wally's head with his

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<v Speaker 1>long lens camera. Wally's memories of hanging around Muhammad Ali

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid came flooding back. He ducked, then rose

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<v Speaker 1>and drilled a shutterbug right in his eye, knocking them

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<v Speaker 1>into some bushes. The next morning, just as manager Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Cavallo had predicted, and just how Wendy and the others

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<v Speaker 1>had feared, the story was all over the papers. Wally

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<v Speaker 1>Safford was arrested. Prince was disgraced, exposed as a selfish

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<v Speaker 1>outlier who is now being hit along with his bodyguards,

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<v Speaker 1>with a fifteen million dollar lawsuit. Big Chick freaked out.

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<v Speaker 1>This was more than the usual crowd control bullshit he

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<v Speaker 1>normally dealt with. He worried the next time it would

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<v Speaker 1>be worse, the next time someone would really get hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>His next move shocked Prince as much as that paparazzo

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<v Speaker 1>who jumped into his car. Big Chick quit, but he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't out of Prince's.

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<v Speaker 2>Life just yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Big Chick had an equally big cocaine problem, and in

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<v Speaker 1>order to pay for that problem, he sold a scandalous

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<v Speaker 1>story about his one time boss to the National Inquirer

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<v Speaker 1>for a quick buck, and the resulting article would play

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<v Speaker 1>a huge part in how the general public's perception of

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<v Speaker 1>Prince began to shift. But you can't really blame Big Chick.

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<v Speaker 1>The wheels were already in motion as early as the

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<v Speaker 1>night of January twenty eighth, nineteen eighty five, the night

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<v Speaker 1>of the American Music Awards and of We Are the World.

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<v Speaker 1>The Prince may have reached the mountaintop, but that meant

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<v Speaker 1>that there was nowhere to go but down. And so

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<v Speaker 1>as a photographer nursed his wounds, as the La Times

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<v Speaker 1>ran the kind of headline that Bob Cavallo could have

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<v Speaker 1>written himself, and as the lawyers started to come for

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<v Speaker 1>Princess Wallet, all of it so clearly pointed to the

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<v Speaker 1>next phase of Prince's career, the backlash. Four years earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty one, nineteen year old Mark Brown, just

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<v Speaker 1>out of high school, had yet to flip his name

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<v Speaker 1>around to create the stage name Brown Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>He had also yet to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be drafted by Prince for a role in the Revolution,

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<v Speaker 1>but being a Minneapolis kid playing bass in a band

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<v Speaker 1>on the city scene, of course, Mark already knew about Prince.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody in the Twin Cities knew about Prince. He was

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<v Speaker 1>the local prodigy, the one they called the kid, a

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<v Speaker 1>sonic wizard who was putting their Midwestern town on the

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<v Speaker 1>musical map. Prince was the success story that all other

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<v Speaker 1>Minneapolis funk and R and B bands measured against when

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<v Speaker 1>they dreamed of scoring their own big break. At the moment, however,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark wasn't thinking about big breaks or about Prince. He

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about the gun aimed at his head, a

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<v Speaker 1>gun that had been pulled on him by his own bandmate.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark was used to this sort of thing, the threat

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<v Speaker 1>of violence that was always bubbling under the surface, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in the north side of town, where a local disc

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<v Speaker 1>jockey DJ Kyle Ray have been shot dead the year prior.

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<v Speaker 1>But to have your own bandmate pull a gun on

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<v Speaker 1>you and threaten to pull the trigger all over creative

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<v Speaker 1>differences that was fucked up Mark with the guy would

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<v Speaker 1>in the argument over how to play the song or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever bug was up his ass. Besides, the gun was

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<v Speaker 1>all for show, the tool of an insecure musician who

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<v Speaker 1>is likely overcompensating. Mark knew then and there that it

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<v Speaker 1>was time for a change. Change was good, it was healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>change was survival. And when change literally came calling, Mark answered.

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<v Speaker 1>The phone rang not at Mark's house, but in the

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<v Speaker 1>rehearsal space where he and his group Fantasy were in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of a band practice. It was none other

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<v Speaker 1>than Prince calling for Mark. No shit, Prince asked Mark

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<v Speaker 1>if he would come audition for his band tomorrow night,

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<v Speaker 1>and this required careful exit strategy to avoid another gun

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<v Speaker 1>to the face when Mark broke the news to the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of his band, and when it came to showing

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<v Speaker 1>up a Prince's place to audition, that also required another

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<v Speaker 1>kind of strategy, this one even more delicate than the last,

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody in Minneapolis knew about Prince, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about the kid's musical talent. They'd all heard

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<v Speaker 1>the gossip. The Prince was a freaky motherfucker, as freaky

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<v Speaker 1>as they came. Just look at the cover of his

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<v Speaker 1>latest record, Dirty Mine Dudes, wearing a trench coat and

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<v Speaker 1>black briefs and rocking that mustache, singing songs about oral

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<v Speaker 1>sex and incest. In that falsetto rumor had it, there

0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:46.520
<v Speaker 1>was one particularly shocking and taboo initiation right the Prince

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<v Speaker 1>made all of his auditionees perform, or so one of

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<v Speaker 1>Mark's friends told him, and that friend further told him

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<v Speaker 1>that Prince's house where the audition was to be held,

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<v Speaker 1>was not a house, but instead a compound right by

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<v Speaker 1>armored tanks and German shepherds. As Mark would discover firsthand,

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<v Speaker 1>the craziest part of Prince's house was the automatic driveway

0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.400
<v Speaker 1>gate opener that split the black chain link fence in two.

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<v Speaker 1>And there were no tanks, no dogs, and no sexual favors required.

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<v Speaker 1>Prince was Prince, which is to say, he was just

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<v Speaker 1>cool as shit, and yes, Mark Brown aka Brown Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>passed the audition. A few years later, in nineteen eighty five,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark was doing the thing live in the Dream, an

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<v Speaker 1>integral part of the Purple Rain Tour, which was, let's

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, more than a tour, it was a daily

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<v Speaker 1>grind which consisted of the following. You pull into a

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<v Speaker 1>new city, set up the equipment, and soundcheck for hours.

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<v Speaker 1>The sound check is like its own show, and often

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't end until that night's audience starts to arrive. Next,

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<v Speaker 1>you grabbed dinner, but you don't get to savor it

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<v Speaker 1>because you got to rush back to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Venue where sometimes over one hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Pe people are waiting to see you perform. The show

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<v Speaker 1>is two hours long, give or taken. It's huge, as

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<v Speaker 1>huge as the loads. The Prince's custom made guitar shoots

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<v Speaker 1>over the crowd one hundred feet into the air, all

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<v Speaker 1>that white ivory, liquid, soap, ejaculate and I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>fucking kidding here. This is the thing that happened. Prince

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<v Speaker 1>had a guitar that he could make come in a

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<v Speaker 1>jack u castor he called it.

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<v Speaker 2>Look it up.

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<v Speaker 1>But after you know, the load is blown and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>the night's not over, because next you have to play

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<v Speaker 1>yet another full set, this time at an after party

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<v Speaker 1>at a club somewhere in town, and that takes you

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<v Speaker 1>into the wee hours of the morning, and some nights

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<v Speaker 1>you get lucky. Some nights Prince wants to record new

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<v Speaker 1>music instead, which he does in the mobile recording truck

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<v Speaker 1>that is part of the touring caravan er, maybe at

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<v Speaker 1>a local studio, you know, don't forget.

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<v Speaker 2>On many days you also have to fit into that

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<v Speaker 2>a tenerary.

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<v Speaker 1>Another show, a full two hour set in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>perform for sick children because contrary to do is freaky reputation,

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<v Speaker 1>Contrary to all that negative press he received over the

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<v Speaker 1>We Are the World bullshit, Prince was as charitable as

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<v Speaker 1>they came. But he didn't do it for the publicity,

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<v Speaker 1>not like the rest of them mugging for the camera

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<v Speaker 1>in that video that was playing every day on MTV.

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<v Speaker 1>They were the ones who made a brighter day. Prince

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<v Speaker 1>was out here doing the work, real work for real

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<v Speaker 1>people who needed it, while Quincy Jones's crew was mugging

0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:22.280
<v Speaker 1>for the cameras and patting themselves on the backs.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Many were now approaching Prince with the same kind of

0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:31.679
<v Speaker 1>skepticism that Brown Mark once had, because stirring the pot

0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.520
<v Speaker 1>was that new National Inquirer article courtesy of the tell

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<v Speaker 1>all payday earned by Prince's former shadow Big Chick, who

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<v Speaker 1>took the three thousand dollars check you receive for spilling

0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.680
<v Speaker 1>his supposed guts and promptly snorted it.

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<v Speaker 2>Up his nose.

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<v Speaker 1>The headline of that article read, the real Prince He's

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<v Speaker 1>trapped in a bizarre, secret world of terror. They said,

0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Prince lived in an armed fortress, not with a girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>or a wife, but with a food food taster who

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<v Speaker 1>ensured that every meal was safe for the Purple Ones consumption.

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<v Speaker 2>They said the Prince had.

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<v Speaker 1>Walled wall portraits of Marilyn Monroe, that he talked to

0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.800
<v Speaker 1>them as if they were real. They said about his

0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.320
<v Speaker 1>erotic song Darling Nikki, you know the one that US

0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Senator Al Gore's wife, Tipper Dean pornographic and wanted censored

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to the financial backing of the Beach Boys Mike

0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Love The one and the same we resent to Prince

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<v Speaker 1>with an American Music Award in nineteen eighty five, that

0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.080
<v Speaker 1>little weasel. But I digress, they said the National Inquirer.

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<v Speaker 1>They said that if you played the weird backwards section

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<v Speaker 1>of Darling Nicky in reverse, you'd hear a creepy satanic message. Prince,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, didn't publicly reply to all of this, just

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<v Speaker 1>as he didn't publicly share that he performed shows on

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<v Speaker 1>the regular for kids in need. Instead, he let the

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<v Speaker 1>mystery play out, mystery being the thing that sells. Copies

0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of The Inquirer are sure, but mystery sells records too, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Around the world in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>The follow up to Purple Rain, released just weeks after

0:18:59.880 --> 0:19:03.840
<v Speaker 1>that record breaking tour ended. It too, went right to

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<v Speaker 1>number one on the album chart, even as Prince's reputation

0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:12.479
<v Speaker 1>was taking hits on all fronts. Unlike Purple Rain, Around

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<v Speaker 1>the World in a Day, only held the top spot

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<v Speaker 1>for three weeks. So Prince tried a new tactic that fall.

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<v Speaker 1>He granted Rolling Stone and interview to show that he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't what everyone had made him out to be, and

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<v Speaker 1>also to show that truth could be stranger than fiction, like,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, the backwards section of Darling Nikki. That wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>some subversive satanic message. In fact, you play that part

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<v Speaker 1>in reverse and you hear a message about God. That

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<v Speaker 1>right there, that was fantasy versus reality, and reality at

0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.880
<v Speaker 1>that moment and all of its beautiful and ugly forms

0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.560
<v Speaker 1>was playing out in real time on the streets of

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<v Speaker 1>Prince's beloved Minneapolis.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back after this. We're We're, We're.

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<v Speaker 1>John Scruggs, the self appointed leader of the Black gangster

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<v Speaker 1>Disciple Nation aka the Disciples, told Sandra White to bring

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<v Speaker 1>her twenty two revolver to tonight's meeting. It was October thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty five, just after midnight. Sandra White did as

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<v Speaker 1>she was told, as any loyal disciple would do. When

0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:39.200
<v Speaker 1>John Scruggs spoke, If Scruggs said jump, you asked how high.

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<v Speaker 1>So White showed up with the gun and then listened

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<v Speaker 1>carefully as Scruggs laid out the plan to her and.

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<v Speaker 2>The rest of the group.

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<v Speaker 1>Three weeks earlier, their street gang had robbed a gun

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<v Speaker 1>store in their hometown of Minneapolis. The crime was almost perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>but the cops managed to get their hands on sixteen

0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:03.320
<v Speaker 1>year old disciple well, Christine Krites, and Scruggs was concerned

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<v Speaker 1>that she had turned snitch. That's why Christine Kritz had

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Sandra White and the others would make that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>They were to take her out tonight with Sandra White's gun.

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<v Speaker 1>John Scruggs laid it all out, follow Christine Krit's home

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<v Speaker 1>and shoot her dead. This was their mission. Sandra White,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Braxton, and Grayland Williams did as John Scruggs told them,

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<v Speaker 1>and they followed sixteen year old Christine Kritz back to

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<v Speaker 1>her place, stopping just shy at her front door at

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<v Speaker 1>the tennis courts near Martin Luther King Junior Park in

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<v Speaker 1>South Minneapolis. There, Graylen Williams took hold as a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two He thought again of John Scruggs's orders, follow her

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<v Speaker 1>home and shoot her dead.

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<v Speaker 2>This was their.

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<v Speaker 1>Mission, as grayln Williams did so. Sandra White and Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Bruxton lit a joint and try to look nonchalant, and

0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:01.080
<v Speaker 1>they didn't even notice the moment when Williams pulled the

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<v Speaker 1>gun to Christine Kritz's head and pulled the trigger. Nine

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<v Speaker 1>months later, in the summer of nineteen eighty six, Prince

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<v Speaker 1>was reading all about the murder of Christine Kritz in

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<v Speaker 1>the arrest of the Disciples gang and the impending trial

0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:23.520
<v Speaker 1>on the pages of the Minneapolis Star Tribune. Kids killing Kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Prince thought, man, what the hell was going on? The

0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:30.560
<v Speaker 1>crime rate in his hometown was reaching a fever pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was obviously just a small part of a

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:37.120
<v Speaker 1>larger narrative happening everywhere. He turned the page to read

0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 1>about ballistic nuclear missiles locked cocked and ready to fly,

0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:47.240
<v Speaker 1>US bombs and Libya aids, drugs and famine. Another page,

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<v Speaker 1>the ongoing investigation into the Challenger space shuttle explosion. Another page,

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<v Speaker 1>an earthquake out West in nineteen eighty six. The fault

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<v Speaker 1>lines weren't just out in southern California. They lay beneath

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<v Speaker 1>the ranks of the Revolution, many of whom were beginning

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<v Speaker 1>to feel iced out by the new members Prince was

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<v Speaker 1>bringing on board, including Susannah Melvoyn, Wendy's twin sister, who

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:13.720
<v Speaker 1>was also princess fiance at the time. Those shaky fault

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 1>lines were also undermining Prince's unwavering desire to change. Creatively speaking,

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:21.800
<v Speaker 1>he knew this, just like Brown Mark knew it as

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<v Speaker 1>a musician on the come up with a gun in

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<v Speaker 1>his face.

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<v Speaker 2>Change was survival.

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<v Speaker 1>Just look at Miles Davis. You change your clothes, you

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<v Speaker 1>change your sound. Do you think Miles gave two shits

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<v Speaker 1>about what Columbia Records thought about bitches Brew. Change is

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<v Speaker 1>why Prince refused to repeat the playbook for Purple Rain,

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<v Speaker 1>moving on to psychedelia, funk and pop for Around the

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<v Speaker 1>World in the Day in the underrated Parade. But by

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<v Speaker 1>doing so it cost him first with R and B fans,

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<v Speaker 1>who accused Prince of turning his back on black music,

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and then it cost his bottom line too. Neither album

0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 1>sold nearly as well as Purple Rain and the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>for which Parade also doubled as a soundtrack. Under the

0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:07.159
<v Speaker 1>cherry moon was a box office bomb. And now that

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 1>commercial failure was putting unexpected pressure on his construction of

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Paisley Park, his sixty five thousand square foot complex twenty

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:20.399
<v Speaker 1>minutes outside Minneapolis, which included three private recording studios. It

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 1>was nearing completion, a complex into which Prince had sunk

0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:30.680
<v Speaker 1>ten million dollars. Financial pain, box office poison, the disgrumpled

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 1>members of his own band. None of it could stop

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Prince from finding energy in change. But there was another

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 1>form of energy right now, a dark energy wrestling with

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the light, the energy of total existential dread, staring him

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 1>dead in the face. Every time he opened a newspaper

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 1>or turned on the TV. Prince tapped into them, both

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the light and the dark, and he used them to

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<v Speaker 1>power his next move, which was happening behind closed doors

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<v Speaker 1>in the one place where Prince felt capable of real transformation,

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<v Speaker 1>the recording studio. So hold up to understand this, I

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>have to make sure you understand exactly how Prince worked

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>in the recording studio and how his process differed from

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 1>his peers. First of all, and I don't mean to

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>get into another Prince versus Michael Jackson thing here. But

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<v Speaker 1>as legendary producer Jimmy Jam observed, when Prince went into

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<v Speaker 1>the studio, he would leave at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>day with a classic song like nineteen ninety nine fully

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>written and recorded.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, when Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>Went into the studio, he would leave at the end

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:38.640
<v Speaker 1>of the day having spent the entire session obsessing over

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the volume of the handclaps on the track. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying there's anything right or wrong about either method here,

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm just illustrating the difference. As Jimmy Jam's example demonstrates,

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Prince's genius was largely rooted in inspiration. But and this

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:58.879
<v Speaker 1>is the second thing, Prince's genius was also the result

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>of impatient You know why Prince used real drums on

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>some songs and a drum machine on others. The call

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 1>was made based solely on whichever one is. Engineer Susan

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Rogers got set up.

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<v Speaker 2>First, if the.

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<v Speaker 1>Drum machine was plugged in and ready to rock, the

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 1>drums were made by a machine, he simply could not

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<v Speaker 1>wait for a drummer to get his or her shit together.

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<v Speaker 1>And Third, when inspiration struck at any time of the

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 1>day or night, he called Susan again, his engineer who

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<v Speaker 1>would meet him in the studio to get to work.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a constant flowsting. And there's one particular

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<v Speaker 1>kound of a day in the studio when Prince recorded

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>four songs simultaneously without saying anything to anyone, without having

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<v Speaker 1>anything written down. He had susan roll tape, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he sat behind the drums and recorded the drum track

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>for one song, and the tape kept rolling, and he

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<v Speaker 1>proceeded to record the drum track for the next song,

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth, and then he went back and put

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<v Speaker 1>down the bass for the first song, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>next song, and he get the idea. He started at

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<v Speaker 1>four pm, and nine and a half hours later, at

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<v Speaker 1>one thirty am, he had four brand new who completed

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:04.920
<v Speaker 1>songs with all the instruments, all the vocals, the whole nine.

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>And these are the first four songs on the Parade album.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to go take another listen now that

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<v Speaker 1>you know how they were made. By September of nineteen

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:15.439
<v Speaker 1>eighty six, six months after the release of Parade, the

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.919
<v Speaker 1>new songs he was recording were really piling up, and

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 1>there were so many that he planned for his next

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>release to be a triple album. Bruce Springsteen's new five

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 1>record live box set set the precedent as far as

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Prince was concerned. But Springsteen was just coming off of

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the incredibly successful Born in the USA, A triple album

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>from a guy like Prince whose last two records had underperformed.

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 2>That was the kind of thing that gave.

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>The executives at Warner Brothers heartburn. But Prince was unfazed.

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:49.160
<v Speaker 1>He kept his head down and his vision tunneled. Warner Brothers,

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>like his father, could go ahead and try and tell

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>him what he could and couldn't do, and ditto for

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>his fans, clamoring for another purple rain, for a return

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 1>to his dirty mind, roots to anything that wasn't what

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>he'd been doing. He used it all. He used the

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 1>pain of whatever was going on between him and Susannah.

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>He knew the relationship was ending, just as the revolution

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>was ending. But there was another revolution happening right here

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 1>in the studio where Prince was alone save for his

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 1>loyal engineers, Susan Rogers. He told Susan rolled tape, and

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 1>he laid down a pattern on the mL one drum machine,

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>and then to the Fairlight digital workstation for a bubbling

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>synth sound and a bluesy bassline, and he kept building

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 1>more tracks, more instrumentation, but then he abruptly stripped most

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>of them away, until the song was reduced to just

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>the drums, the fairlight, and his guitar, most likely his

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>iconic Honer MadCat Telemodel. And he mixed the music down

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>onto a cassette, popped it into the tape deck of

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>his Ford Thunderbird, hit the gas, and wrote around town.

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Listening to the mix while writing lyrics. In his head,

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Prince thought again about the Disciples gang. He thought about

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>bombs and missiles, of health crisis and society on the brink,

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>and the collective pain of a world that needed healing.

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 1>He was calling this one the sign of the times.

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 2>He knew he was onto something.

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 1>New, something that could match the power of Purple Rain,

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>even if it sounded completely different, So much so that

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>he did something he didn't normally do. He played the

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>song for Lenny Waronker, then president of Warners, the father figure,

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:34.479
<v Speaker 1>the Gatekeeper, and Lenny listened. Four minutes and fifty six

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>seconds later, when the song ended, Lenny was speechless. It

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 1>totally freaked me out, he later said, When I heard

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.479
<v Speaker 1>the record I thought, oh my god, he's gone to

0:29:45.520 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>another just another zone. It was just unbelievable. On March

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>thirty first, nineteen eighty seven, a police officer in Baltimore

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>was placed on medical leave after being stuck with a

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>hypodermic needle hidden in the pocket of the purp. He

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>just arrested a purp who had tested positive for the

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>AIDS virus. Over in Chicago, elementary school students fearfully passed

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>through an infamous playground on their way to class. We're

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 1>just months earlier, a kid was attacked by a local

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>street gang, beaten so badly with a baseball bat that

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>he lost an eye. In New Jersey, twenty one men

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 1>went on trial for running drugs, gambling, and other illegal

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>activities out of the Hole in the Wall luncheonette in Newark,

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 1>allegedly as part of the Luksey organized crime family. Meanwhile,

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>nightly news broadcasts from coast to coast continued to report

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>on the fallout from President Reagan's recent admission that the

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>United States government had been trading arms with Iran in

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>return for hostages. On that same day, March thirty first,

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty seven, Prince released sign of the Times, his

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>ninth studio album, which led off with the title track

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>that Warner Brothers president Lenny Warniker had described as unbelievable,

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>and that song, which had been released as a single

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>a month prior, was as timely as anything Prince had

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>ever released. It was as potent in eighty seven as

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Marvin Gaye's What's Going On was in seventy one or

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Stevie Wonders Living for the City was in seventy three,

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and as a number one single on the R and

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>B chart. It was also sweet revenge against those who

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>kept calling him out for crossing.

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Over into the pop world.

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.959
<v Speaker 1>Sign of the Times. The album was not a triple album,

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>as was originally intended under its working titles Dream Factory

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and Crystal Ball, but instead a double album, the first

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>of Prince's career, and like many of the greatest double

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>albums in history, The Rolling Stones Exile on Main Street

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the Clash is London Calling. Sign of the Times is

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>an eclectic set of songs that tackled not just the

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>hot button issues of the day, but sex, god, love.

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 2>And everything in between.

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Over at the Village Voice, home of the Dean of

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:25.479
<v Speaker 1>rock critics Robert Chriscau, who just seven years earlier had

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>told Mick Jagger to check his dick into a nursing home.

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Sign of the Times became the biggest winner in the

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>history of the paper's influential year end Passant Job Writer's poll.

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>It beat out Springsteen's.

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Tunnel of Love for the number one.

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Spot by an even wider margin than Michael Jackson's Thriller

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>had beat RIM's Murmur in nineteen eighty three. But although

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Michael was nominated for his album Bad alongside Prince for

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Album of the Year at the thirtieth Grammy Awards a

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>year later in March of nineteen eighty eight, neither artist

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>won that trophy went to U two for their blockbuster

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>album The Joshua Tree. Prince again was unfazed. It didn't

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>matter that Sign of the Times didn't win a bunch

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>of awards the way that Purple Rain once had, Nor

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>did it matter that it didn't sell as well as

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Purple Rain.

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Hell didn't sell as well as.

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Parade or around the World Day either, But it once

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and for all established Prince as a megawak craftsman an artist,

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>in addition to his existing status as a megawalk performer. Baby,

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:29.479
<v Speaker 1>he was a star, but he was a star in

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>his own way, not how anyone else wanted him to be.

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 1>And back at the American Music Awards in nineteen eighty five,

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>on the night of the recording of We Are the World,

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>the night that one of his bodyguards was arrested in

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:44.959
<v Speaker 1>another quit. While accepting the award for Favorite Pop Album,

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Prince told a screaming crowd in that deep bedroom voice

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>of his quote, for all of us, life is death

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 1>without adventure. Adventure only comes to those who are willing

0:33:55.760 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>to be daring and take chances unquote, venture, change, impatience, inspiration.

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Anything less than all that would be a disgrace. I'm

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Jake Brennan, and this is disgraceland, all right. Thanks for

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>keeping it purple with me in this week's episode. Just

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<v Speaker 1>a reminder to Apple podcast listeners, make sure you get

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0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 1>week is which artists best nailed their moment? Was it

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Prince with Sign of the Times? Was it Stevie was

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Living for the City? Was it Marvin Gaye with What's

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 1>going On?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it someone else? Public Enemy?

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren Hill lots to choose from hit me up and

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