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Speaker 1: Is it the same? Here's why Andy Kaufman is a failure. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So thank goodness, someone flips on the lights right before

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Speaker 2: For a number of reasons. Tracy Wigfield, Hi, Hi, people

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Speaker 1: Tracy from thirty Rock, I mean, yes, and your last

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Speaker 1: No, Clark Duke was the clown duke? Oh right?

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Speaker 1: Yes, and we've loved a lot of We love Brian Fellows.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: And now you're doing some writing as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm writing on the Mindy project mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: And this is something and Sam, don't people are okay,

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Speaker 2: Sure, But Sam, what Sam you did is you took

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Speaker 1: It's okay, It wasn't supposed to be that aggressive.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, that's okay, it's okay. I was skittish about it too.

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Speaker 3: I overreacted.

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Speaker 3: No, I want it. I made him do it, I

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Speaker 3: it or or white men. What if it's just you know,

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Speaker 1: Here's my problem with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just for five years.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but here's my problem with what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: And it even it out.

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Speaker 2: Then you're saying a lot of them would have to

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Speaker 2: you're saying are not allowed to have are not allowed

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Speaker 3: And true, they could take any job. They could work

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Speaker 3: To know to know what what, to know who did

434
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 3: the crime? Oh, because there's so many more.

435
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: So many people doing crime.

436
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 3: That's a good point.

437
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: I mean, can hiring just be based on funniness?

438
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 3: Well, that's what it is right now, and we still

439
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 3: have sort of the problem, don't we.

440
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I do like people who look like me,

441
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: I imagine, But then who doesn't. I mean, that's more comfortable.

442
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: That's more comfortable for you because that's what I look like. Yes, right, right,

443
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: that makes sense to me.

444
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: Right, well, that's my friend when I see that.

445
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, when I think about the people who

446
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: probably look like the closest to me that I know,

447
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: it's probably you.

448
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I do. Yeah, well, I do like him. He

449
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: is my friend. The only person who looks more like

450
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: me than you that I'm friends with is my writing partner. Yes,

451
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 1: And so in that sense, I think that a lot

452
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: of friendship is just based on trying to get someone

453
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: very close to you. And that's also probably who finds

454
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: the same stuff funny. But when somebody is a woman

455
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: or a different color than me, it looks so crazy

456
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: to me when I'm interviewing them for a job.

457
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: It does come back to and we talk about evolution

458
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: in science and sort of our lizard brains, and oh

459
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 2: we do read a lot of science books. And what

460
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: it comes down to is when you're a caveman. Caveman

461
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: times when Yeah, it's it's the feeling of when you

462
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: see something that looks just like you, you're supposed to

463
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 2: know that. Maybe that's you're looking into a stream. Trust

464
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: trust it, and it's for drinking.

465
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: It's safe water. It's safe water, and we need water

466
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: to survive. If you see something that looks different in

467
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: those times, it might be a saber to tiger or

468
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: a mirage or.

469
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: A mirage, don't trust.

470
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: It, and then you wind up eating sand.

471
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: Of course, disappear thirstier than ever.

472
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you're thirsty than before. Well it's water water everywhere,

473
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 1: but only sand to drink, like.

474
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: That's the same.

475
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: Yes. So I think that while people want to in

476
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: sind that it's some sort of like good old boys

477
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: like protecting each other thing, it's actually just science. Just

478
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: like most stuff, it's just science. Yeah, yea yeah. Cells.

479
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: Let's talk about thirty Rocke. Yeah. Please. The experience of

480
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: writing on that show must have been interesting.

481
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was fun, I really, I was

482
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: there for a long time. I worked there for six years.

483
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: Was it a thrill writing for my character your character? Yes?

484
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 3: I mean that was challenging.

485
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: Yes.

486
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: Actually.

487
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: In the Sandwich Day episode where Judah Friedlander gave me

488
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: a big kiss on the cheek and threw me in

489
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: the vending machine. What was going on for you guys

490
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: in the writer's room. I just remember reading that script

491
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: and thinking, this is so crazy, but I like it.

492
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we were thinking mostly about you, like

493
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: the other guy with the dark hair, that the one

494
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 3: guy who is like who's like bigger but also a

495
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: guy with dark hair.

496
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: He replaced me. He came on, Ah, he did.

497
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 3: Okay, we were thinking of most of our thinking and

498
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: sort of our story breaking, and was all sort of

499
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: centered about like what's going on with these guys?

500
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: Yes, and all the stories are sort of anchored out of,

501
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, our behavior, and a lot of the other

502
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: characters are doing most of the talking. But if you look,

503
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: they're talking about what we're doing.

504
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: Uh huh, if you really look.

505
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: Yes, because they're talking about the show they're making.

506
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: Right, But who's watching a show or anything, you know,

507
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: with that much focus these days.

508
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: Yes, we talked about us, how we're talking about the

509
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: writer's panel, how everyone sort of usually writes a different

510
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: character on the show.

511
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: Yes, And what they.

512
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 2: Say about you, and what everyone talks about is that

513
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: you're sort of the mind behind Juda's hat And what

514
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 2: was it like coming in every day and thinking about

515
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: different hats.

516
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just sort of would I would submit my

517
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 3: hatless from home and I would fax them in, and

518
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: you know, usually it would just be kind of like

519
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: random words.

520
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: You had a fax machine, I did. Yeah, So was

521
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: a lot of the money that you were making on

522
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: the show just paying down that fax machine.

523
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 3: And here's the problem with a fax machine. It's like

524
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: you can buy a fax machine. It's actually not that much.

525
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 3: It's like two hundred dollars or something, but it's like

526
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 3: someone uses them anymore. So when you have to have

527
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: it maintenance, for example, you're getting parts from all over

528
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: the world, you have to get the maintenance guy to

529
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: come in.

530
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: That's why I won't drive a jack That's why, Yeah,

531
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: that's why I don't. That's why I don't drive a

532
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: Jaguar because it's too hard to get British pieces.

533
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: Yes, and the one main the one fax machine maintenance

534
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: guy is British too, and he has to come that

535
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: whole way.

536
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: M Cedric on an umbrella.

537
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: He flies in on his umbrella, Yeah, in a Marry

538
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: popin sort.

539
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: Of, so that you're faxing the jokes in uh the

540
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: for the hat? Yeah, would you say that it's fair

541
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: to call Judas hat the original Twitter sort of a

542
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: pro to Twitter?

543
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: Oh, I think that is fair. I haven't. I hadn't

544
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: even thought of that. And the monetary ramifications for that

545
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: for me would be huge if that was true. Right,

546
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: Twitter would owe me something, wouldn't they like the company

547
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: the company of Twitter found it?

548
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: If we could make them admit it. Yeah?

549
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's there's the rub, right.

550
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: What are some of your favorite hats that you ever wrote?

551
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: Well, the unicorn posse, sure you know, because.

552
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: That hits me writing that random spot god.

553
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: Unicorn and they're all in again.

554
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: Lit rainbows finding gold Coin. Well, because they're a sweet

555
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they're a sweet tiger, yes, but the idea

556
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: of them as a posse almost makes me think they

557
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: might have like a cowboy hat?

558
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: On?

559
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: Am I am? I wrong? I mean is that part

560
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: of your thinking there?

561
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: Whom I have the unicorn?

562
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: It's a unicorn posse, So the unicorn, the group of

563
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: them is maybe wearing a cowboy hat, rounding up a

564
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: posse like an old Weston.

565
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 3: I guess.

566
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: So, okay, yes, so that is what you were thinking?

567
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: Were you did you do Karate Mama. I mean what karate.

568
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: Mama was not me? I wish I could take credit

569
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: for that. Yes, I only got one hat on the show,

570
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: the one I just mentioned. The rest a lot.

571
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: I guess there were a lot of the ones that

572
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 2: he wrote them, or that you wrote and that he rejected.

573
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: Rejected hats dot Com. Yeah, yes, rejected.

574
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: There are some great ones on there. What was like,

575
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: what was one of your favorite ones?

576
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, because there was something that he refused to wear.

577
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: One of them was it's not abortion if she wanted it,

578
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: Like that was one that you wrote. Yeah, and he

579
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: said it was too long, too long.

580
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, there were other problems with it too, like you

581
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: can't talk about abortion and like it's it's confusing in

582
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: a way too, Like it's like it's not abortion. Well

583
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 3: because it's like if she she wanted she wanted the baby,

584
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: or she wanted she wanted sex. Is what you wrote

585
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: that I know she wanted sex? Was the intention, Like,

586
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: it's not rape if she wanted it. It's playing off

587
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: of Oh okay, that's what it was playing.

588
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, how I took it. It's okay to play off it.

589
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, I don't think it's okay to say it,

590
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: but it's okay to play off it.

591
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. I thought it was good.

592
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: Well, but that's where you also get the benefit of

593
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: Judas experience because he has been wearing hats for a

594
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: long time, so he does know what we'll play and

595
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: what will you know not play play, or what will

596
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: be too long, what won't be long enough? You had

597
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: one that was way too short, right, Yeah, it.

598
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: Was just like a little thumbs up, like a picture.

599
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: You also can't have a picture.

600
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: I guess, okay, Yeah, it's all letters.

601
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, is not yet it becomes something else.

602
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: It was just sort of becomes emoji. Yeah.

603
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could get in on the money from that.

604
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: Were you did you do? This is my fucking Halloween costume? Yeah?

605
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: That was that was That was one of mine too.

606
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: You can't say fuck okay because it's on television.

607
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: Did you think about taking that word out?

608
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: I don't think it would make sense if you took

609
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: it out.

610
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: I see that. I see that. I didn't think that

611
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: question through.

612
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: If we could get personal for just a minute, we

613
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: talked about Hollywood. Is it does seem like this really

614
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: big city, but it is actually a very small town.

615
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: Yes, when it comes to just you.

616
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: Know, everyone is really like your neighbor and you just

617
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: meet them at the store essentially, and day in, day out.

618
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: And in my case, I work with your boyfriend. His

619
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: name's Adam. We were together and he's my very best

620
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: close friend.

621
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: And isn't it funny what a small town it is.

622
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: And I work with your boyfriend and the milk delivery

623
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: man and and all this is just all feels like

624
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: a little tiny Just leave it to beaver World or something. Yes,

625
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: you work with her boyfriend and I work with people

626
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: as well, and so he and I we talk all

627
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: the time.

628
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: And he's told me about all the different kissies that

629
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: you guys have done, the different just the.

630
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: Different kissies kisses. Yes, oh I can't And of course

631
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: downloads me on the kissies after every time he hears

632
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: from Adam, he calls me and but he goes, you

633
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: won't believe the kissy I heard about this week.

634
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: And some of them are amazing, and it's I just

635
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: always think, did you actually do those?

636
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do a lot of silly kissies. Just the

637
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: silliest one, oh.

638
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: Wow, Like there was the one that he was talking

639
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: about when you guys were like dancing really fast.

640
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, a party. If you did a kissie yeah yeah.

641
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: To me, I'm like, it's so those two things are

642
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: so opposite, so disparate.

643
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: You know, fast dancing, fast dancing, and then a kiss,

644
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: which I think of as a slow, sweet act. But

645
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: if you kiss it was fast second. Oh, so it's

646
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: like a peck likes.

647
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: And then it almost becomes part of the dance move

648
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: in a way.

649
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

650
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: I was like hummingbirds. Geez again your mind because I'm

651
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: going this is how you came up with some of

652
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: the stuff you had me doing. Where I'm you know,

653
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: sitting at the table in that writer's room from life Experience,

654
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: or I'm sort of standing over you know, Jack mcbriar's

655
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: shoulder in the office. It's outside of.

656
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: Jack's off for that one scene where you could just

657
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: see a little wisp of your hair just over just

658
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 3: over his hands.

659
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: Yes that's more than one, Yes, yes, yes, more than one,

660
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: he said.

661
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: The kissy, I guess came during the drop of the song,

662
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: and that was what made it sort of interesting that

663
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: you guys were doing. You guys are doing the fast

664
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: dancing and drop boom, and then it comes in with

665
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: the you guys.

666
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: Are and then we're back.

667
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: Sound that the music I listened to now. Hayes described

668
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: one of the kisses to me, Well, I'm just gonna

669
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: say it. I flat out don't understand it.

670
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, I'd love to explain it to you.

671
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: He said, you use your whole mouth right right right,

672
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: and all the parts.

673
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, tonsils, tongue, skin, I need a break undergum, tooth inside,

674
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 3: tooth root.

675
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: Oh wow, those are the four parts, he said. Yeah,

676
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: well the story I mean in that order. If you

677
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: made it up, you did a good job sort of

678
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,959
Speaker 1: collaborating on this story, because I can't find a hole

679
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: in it other than I can't wrap my head around it.

680
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 3: We're trying to get our love life like out there,

681
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: a little more like get sort of some heat.

682
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: People are skeptical of our love Why it seems convenient easy?

683
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: You're both like writing comedy, and it just feels like

684
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: you're both sort of well, it's like, what's next? Is

685
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: the show? The show?

686
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: Yes? No, you think that's what we're thinking about?

687
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: Well, what would that be? You know, just if it

688
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: were going to be the show, if the.

689
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: Two of us were a show, yes, well, probably like

690
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: we'd both we both probably were, like we work on

691
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: a boat or something.

692
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: Idle pitch Yeah, yeah, TNA DNA.

693
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're both. Yeah, that's cute because in the show

694
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: we're nudists who work on a boat.

695
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like.

696
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: We're the boat that seeventive boat isn't fordists.

697
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so everyone else on the boat is like

698
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: a deep sea fisherman. Yeah, sort of trying to catch.

699
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: It's like a dead days Catch kind of vibe. But

700
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: then you two are sort of frolicking and doing that.

701
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: Interesting a storm is coming or whatever.

702
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: That's good conflict.

703
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a drama.

704
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: Sounds like you've got it pretty well thought out. Yeah

705
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: for somebody who's never even considered this before it being

706
00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: the show.

707
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: I know. But I'm pitch it in five minutes. So

708
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: thank god, right after I finished this.

709
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: We've only got five more minutes with you. Yeah, I

710
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: gotta go.

711
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 3: I gotta go.

712
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I didn't, Oh I didn't. Or maybe she's

713
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: pitching it to us.

714
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: No, no, no executives.

715
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna describe certainly, Hayes. I don't like to

716
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: think of myself as a stuffed shirt like that. John.

717
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: You talk about something and I'll find the popcorn song?

718
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: What are your four main rules of writing?

719
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 3: The rules of writing? Yeah, do it do it on

720
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: a computer?

721
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: Yep, right you that's kind of not fair. That's not

722
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: that helpful to our audience.

723
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true, because there's a lot

724
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: of people who kind of, I think, feel like, what

725
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: if I'm using a typewriter or something like old timey,

726
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: like how the greats used to write. You know, a

727
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 3: lot of people are doing that, and I'm telling you

728
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: it's not gonna add anything except time wasted.

729
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: But you got to see the letters we get from

730
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: some of these people. I'm starting to think some of

731
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: them just have a stick and mud. They don't have

732
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: like they don't even have a pencil at times.

733
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: And it's and when you say something like you have

734
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: to do it on a computer, what you're basically saying

735
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: that these people is you have to become a thief.

736
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: Oh you have to steal.

737
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: It's a lot of you encouraging crime.

738
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: I feel like you, guys in a way that I

739
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: don't think about it. You guys see a really strong

740
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: correlation between would be writers and a criminal element.

741
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: Well well.

742
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: Considered to have saved me from that I can always

743
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 2: speak from personal experience.

744
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 3: That's all I can say to your background.

745
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: Because you seem to think that writing is some kind

746
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: of choice that people make and that they have, and

747
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: that they have other options. Oh well, I envy you, sweetheart,

748
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: because let me tell you, I wish I had a choice.

749
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: It was either this or the looney bin. If I

750
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: didn't have some way to express these twisted thoughts that

751
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: are in my mind and some of the wild characters

752
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: that are chattering away. If I could and splash them

753
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: down on the page, boy, I think I'd be stealing

754
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: computers for going to jail.

755
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: For me, I faced the choice at one point. It

756
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: was between writing and grifting intersting.

757
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: Like a long kind of grift where you would.

758
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: Say it was mostly short cons find the lady. You

759
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: know the three card Monty chemist, seen snake oil sales.

760
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of making change in a deceptive way.

761
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: Oh you know what I actually need change for? Give

762
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: me two tens for this twenty Oh you know what

763
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: I screwed up? Yeah, give me that. No, give me

764
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: the twenty back. I'll give you the ten because I

765
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: actually don't need that. And then boom, you made ten bucks.

766
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: And then you know, you could hopefully buy a computer

767
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: become a writer with that.

768
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: There's lots of sleight of hand, and it is against society.

769
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: And I'm not proud of those times. And if I

770
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: could go back and change it, I would, But I.

771
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: Just it's writing saved me. It did.

772
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: And so when I think about all those people who

773
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: are also it's time to make that choice. And you're

774
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: saying that they're not allowed to be hired because of

775
00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: the new rule.

776
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: Well, here's the other thing. Computers are at libraries, Computers

777
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: are at friends' houses. Computers are a lot of places.

778
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: They're everywhere. Now, so why do you have to own it?

779
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: You don't necessarily Well, first of all, friend with a computer,

780
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 3: that's not so.

781
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: Well, we've talked about this library thing, and the letters

782
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: that we get is that I'm at the library. There's

783
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 2: a really long line here. Oh really, Now, everyone else

784
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 2: trying to do their movie.

785
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: I've only gotten a library. I've only got my couple minutes.

786
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: You know. I think they get like a chip or

787
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: something that represents five minutes that they can spend on

788
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: the computer. And another thing is if you write your

789
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: script on the library computer, you don't own it. Now,

790
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: the library owns that, and they could get hired for

791
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: a show.

792
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 3: Oh is that true?

793
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: Yes?

794
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: But how often, though, is a library going out to

795
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: a studio.

796
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: Well they're not doing maybe you're not familiar, but a

797
00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: new TNT show, sorry, John learricat the library.

798
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 3: And that is created by library, by just library.

799
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: Well no, here's what I think. I think somebody created

800
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: the idea in the library right right where you are.

801
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: They always say right where you are and that.

802
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: But but now would you say now when you look

803
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 2: at the end of the show, it says created by

804
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: the library.

805
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 3: Library.

806
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and.

807
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: They stole who do you think did that?

808
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, created by the library. So it's hard to

809
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: good to see Jonny Lair keep back though, Sam, Sam,

810
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: sound sound, We command you, computer sound, computer sound.

811
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: Now it's okay. It's side for the Popcorn Gallery. And

812
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: we got the questions from our listeners for Tracy Wigfield,

813
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: and it's going to be questions about writing and television

814
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: and the movie business and finding a job in the movies.

815
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 2: And we got some questions to read to you right now.

816
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: Do you understand what the segment is?

817
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: People are are these people are asking questions of me?

818
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

819
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: Popcorn at the movies, Popcorn at the movies.

820
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a question from let me find one

821
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 2: that's really good?

822
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: Oh good. I love when he takes his time.

823
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: This question from Bozo's okay, formerly Bozos of Basketball. But he,

824
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: I guess didn't want to be that.

825
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: You should we play the sound drop.

826
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: Yes, let's reach into the bag and find the question.

827
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: Hopefully he'll be from Bozos.

828
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: Okay. Oh, it's uh my own wiener. I guess I'm

829
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: not allowed to have a writing job because I have

830
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: a male organ and so now for five years I

831
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: have to just go commit crimes.

832
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is a question, so that is specific

833
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: to someone like this is Sean's friend Mark from high

834
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: school High School records. He soundrops oh okay, and he

835
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: is the kind of person who is making the choice

836
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 2: right now between.

837
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: A life and entertainment and life. In the CD Underbelly

838
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: of the Criminal.

839
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 2: War, tricking somebody into finding a queen or a walnut

840
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 2: shell under a under a cup.

841
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: Yes, you did find the Bozos.

842
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: Question, Uh, yes, and it was in there. The question

843
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: is Tracy, what's it like to be popular? How do

844
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: you choose which people to like?

845
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: You know, it's hard because a lot of a lot

846
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 3: of people want to hang out with me. I get

847
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: invited to a lot of parties. I get invited to

848
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: a lot of events. And so what I do is

849
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: I say I'm coming to everything. I always say yes.

850
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: I never go. I never go to anything.

851
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 2: That's but you've made people so happy when you said yes.

852
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: I say yes, I'll be there, and then I never

853
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: show up. So that's sort of how I deal with

854
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 3: being popular.

855
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: That's interesting for you because so many of us now

856
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: are coming from this kind of nerdish background, like Shan

857
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: and I and reading science books and reading a comic

858
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: and you're sort of a typical glamour gal.

859
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 3: I'm yeah, I'm what you would call like a glamour gal. Yeah.

860
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: And that's it's interesting because you also felt like writing

861
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: was a choice, and maybe it is because you didn't

862
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: live in these comic book worlds where you only escape

863
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: from the viciousness of the bullies was to sort of

864
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: imagine that you were a Clark Kent, who you know

865
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: was a nerd, wasn't I mean Ken was a nerd.

866
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: We don't talk about that, yes, but had these superabilities.

867
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 3: That's right. I could have done any number of things.

868
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: I you know, modeling in Milan, London, all the great

869
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 3: cities of Europe, modeling in Brazil.

870
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: From anywhere but America. I feel like you could have

871
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: been a model.

872
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: Yes, Knowne was interested here, but in other cultures and countries.

873
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: But I chose to do this because I enjoy it.

874
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 3: And here I am.

875
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: What were you doing for you when some of us

876
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: were reading about mathe were you doing?

877
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: I was partying. I was listening to the sounds of

878
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 3: the city and dancing.

879
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: You go shopping at the mall, Go shopping.

880
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: At the mall? I was, Yeah, I was shopping at

881
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: the mall, beautiful things for myself, the finest stores, Bergdorf, Neiman, Marcus, Sucks,

882
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: fith Avenue.

883
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: Where'd you get your ears pierced.

884
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: At a kiosk?

885
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: That's nice, that's real.

886
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 3: It's all real.

887
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 2: Here's a question in the bag we're gonna find.

888
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 1: Okay, I found a gun and a pencil. So which

889
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: am I gonna use? My gun or my pencil? Well,

890
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: I guess the pencil is not a computer, so I

891
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: can't be a writer. Crack. Let's do this, Okay.

892
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: So it seems like it just it plays out in

893
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: real time for us, Yes, and sometimes it's hard to

894
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: see the effects of the choices you make until.

895
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes we say things from our crystal towers, you know,

896
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: and uh, with our Burgdorf purchases, and we don't necessarily

897
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: realize that there's very real repercussions to the decisions we make.

898
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: This question is from Anastasia Vigo and her question is

899
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: how did it feel to win your Emmy?

900
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 3: Oh? Great, really wonderful. My family was there. It was

901
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: a it was a very nice experience. Did you guy?

902
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: You guys want an Emmy?

903
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: Arts not a competition. Arts not a art.

904
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: Shouldn't art shouldn't be a competition. I turned Miami into

905
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: coins to distribute coins. You melted it down into gold coins. Now,

906
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: did you guys.

907
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 3: Realize when you won your Emmy? Did you feel like

908
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: it's much It's much smaller than you thought it would be.

909
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: Mine was very small, very small, to the point where

910
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: I don't know where it is.

911
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 2: Oh, that's interesting. You guys got one of the small

912
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: ones I did.

913
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 3: I minus you could fit it in your mouth. Oh

914
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 3: so small.

915
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: Oh that could be a new kissie. And I don't

916
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: want to step onto the territory between you, but it feels.

917
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 3: Like Emmy from one lips to another.

918
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: Mine, I would consider it to be too big to

919
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: be I had to drive with my trunk.

920
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 3: Open and you strapped it down with a bungee or yeah,

921
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 3: so it's.

922
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: Very dangerous and you can't see out the back. Oh geez,

923
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: did you guys fall apart?

924
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: You just fell apart?

925
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like when I went to touch it, the freaking

926
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: arm fell off and there was like, I don't know,

927
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: there was like copper wire in there or something like

928
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: it was all sticking out jagged, and it just felt

929
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: dangerous to have it around. And mine was was your

930
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: guys's one holding up? I think it was supposed to

931
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: be holding up like a glow of course. Oh mine

932
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: was an orange pool ball it was yeah.

933
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: Oh that feels like they I think it was the

934
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 3: four cheap out or something, the four ball.

935
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: Well that's more fun though.

936
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 3: Yes, did you when you had your did you try

937
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 3: burying yours in the yard because if you I didn't

938
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 3: know this, but if you bury it in the yard,

939
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 3: a tree will grow. Oh yeah, yeah, did you try that?

940
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: It was like it's like that it was ended up

941
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 2: being the stub hub tree.

942
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, mine?

943
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, mine? What came out of the ground. That was

944
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: not a tree?

945
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 3: What was it?

946
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: It was like it was like, okay, so I'm just

947
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: gonna describe what I.

948
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: Saw, Okay, and we'll try to make heads or tails

949
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:40,959
Speaker 3: of it.

950
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: Okay, there's a beam of light and then there's some

951
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: sort of metal bug. What and he shoots my dad

952
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: little laser was okay, thank god he is Jesus Christ.

953
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: But only because it just shot him in the bulletproof

954
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: vest that he was already withing a cop not anymore.

955
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: After this incident or just no, just.

956
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: Hasn't been one for a while.

957
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: Is that's he's not of cop age really anymore?

958
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: Oh?

959
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 3: I see.

960
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: But anyway, so I don't know exactly what it was,

961
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: but I would not call that a tree. That metal bug.

962
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: And then it took off into the sky. And then

963
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm reading the news. Yeah, a couple of weeks later,

964
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, Ben Laanden's dead. Mm hmmm. I

965
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: don't know.

966
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 3: I don't know.

967
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, and your dad has.

968
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: That, yes, your dad, Yeah, so you think that was what?

969
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 3: That was a misfire on your dad thinking it was

970
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 3: Osama bin Laden.

971
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't.

972
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: I Honestly, I'm saying this, what did the bug say

973
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: when he shot your dad with the laser? Bean?

974
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: Take that?

975
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: Okay, So that sounds like you could have been talking

976
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: to us. It's pretty open ended, but it could have been.

977
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: That would be. Yeah, you'd be within your rights to

978
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: say that.

979
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: It definitely doesn't rule out that's an area. Yeah, no,

980
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: it would be.

981
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be way out of line if you said

982
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: take that now to Osama, but you could say it

983
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: to a lot of people.

984
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: That's true.

985
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: Let's reach into the bag. We'll find another new question.

986
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: Just fill it the back. Just filter bag, just do it,

987
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: Just do it. Why are you doing this? Why are

988
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: you doing this? You don't have to do this? Yes

989
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: I do, man, Yes I do. I'm never gonna write man,

990
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: my only friends are the freaking green arrow and freaking

991
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: the monster thing. Kid. Just put down the gun. You

992
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: don't have to do this, No, come on, just fill

993
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: it the bag. I'm gonna really.

994
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: Shoot my god.

995
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 2: And it sounded like he was scared. He didn't even

996
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: want to be doing it, but he had to. He

997
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: had no other choice.

998
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: Well, he had no other choice because how is he

999
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: going to find us the library? Yes, here's a question

1000
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: from Jacob C. Tracy.

1001
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 2: How would you describe your infamous I just wrote a

1002
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: funny joke victory dance.

1003
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 3: Oh I know it. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah,

1004
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 3: I mean I just sing I just wrote it.

1005
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 2: Let's do a joke first, Like, what's a funny joke

1006
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: you did recently?

1007
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 3: A funny joke recently that's on the show, Like Mindy

1008
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: walks into a room okay, and trips and falls face

1009
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 3: first into a garbage can. Right, that got a big

1010
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 3: garbage Yeah.

1011
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: Like when her head comes up, is there.

1012
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 3: Like a there's a banana fiat show?

1013
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: There is?

1014
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 3: There's an eggshell, big one over her whole head, her

1015
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 3: whole head. Yes, yes, it's an Easter episode, so that's

1016
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 3: s earlier. Yeah, yes episode. Yeah, so that's like a

1017
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 3: you know that obviously got a big reaction in the room.

1018
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: It's funny.

1019
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: I can't wait for that episode.

1020
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, wait till Easter because it's that's when it's

1021
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 3: going to be on.

1022
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: Great.

1023
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: What that's when it's going to be on Great?

1024
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: That's great for me.

1025
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 3: Okay, do you have something on Easter? What's your problem?

1026
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: He say he doesn't have something Jesus Christ. So what

1027
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: I said was, what do you want to say? What's wrong?

1028
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: What do you want to hear?

1029
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 3: Tell me, I'll say it's fine.

1030
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm here to please you, your majesty. What do you

1031
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: want to hear?

1032
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 2: God?

1033
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: And so you do the joke. I'm sorry, you do

1034
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: the funny joke? Yeah, and then fucking ship? What forget it?

1035
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 3: You got a big attitude problem?

1036
00:52:58,920 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess.

1037
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: So from where I'm standing, you talked about your funny joke,

1038
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: and he said it was great.

1039
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be I said, I said, I can't

1040
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: wait to see it. I said great again.

1041
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: You know this, as a writer, there's a reader on

1042
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 3: every on every line of dialogue. And his reader was

1043
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 3: jack Off.

1044
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: The reader that I saw that I saw was loving

1045
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 2: her her ship, loving her.

1046
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: Ship, parenthetical, loving her ship, parenthetical, going to watch. Yes.

1047
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: Well I'm sorry. Then I didn't. I didn't take it

1048
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 3: that way. Loving her ship.

1049
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Well the reader on that is not a great apology.

1050
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: Okay, anyway, I mean, you're you're here, you feel this.

1051
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 3: That's not yes.

1052
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: And I see in Sean someone.

1053
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 3: Who you're going to take his side.

1054
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: I recognize the kind of behavior he's doing.

1055
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: You have to see him tomorrow.

1056
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: Yes, And frankly, I think he looks like me. He

1057
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: has very similar facial hair right now and sort of

1058
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: sandy hair, whereas I look at you and it's like

1059
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: a different creature just in my lizard brain.

1060
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, long brown hair, different face.

1061
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: Yes, the sort of reptilian part of my brain is

1062
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: just fighting to make any kind of sense of you

1063
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: and everything. It's telling me it's just danger, you know,

1064
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: do not.

1065
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: Trust, Yes, fight or flight? But and but instead I

1066
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 2: choose to do podcast. So what's the dance?

1067
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 1: Yes? Describe be Yes? She could she describe the dance

1068
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: as the prize for our pro version?

1069
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I suppose because it is one oh one and

1070
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: there is like, oh, pretty big podcast coming in behind us. Yes,

1071
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 2: and so we uh and you rate us on iTunes,

1072
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: and you like us on the forums, and uh and on.

1073
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: Facebook, and like us on Facebook, rate us on night

1074
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: And thank you so much Tracy for coming.

1075
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you guys.

1076
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 2: Joining us on the show. And it's a good prize

1077
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: coming for salad Jesse. Raphael, the person who bought the

1078
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: pro version this week, thank you so much.

1079
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: Really good pro version coming your way.

1080
00:54:59,360 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: Uh.

1081
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: And Tracy's gonna describe for your her joke dance.

1082
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: Uh yeah. When I tell a good joke, I say,

1083
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 3: uh fuck you, motherfuckers. I told the best joke. And

1084
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 3: then I stand very very erect, and I kick myself

1085
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 3: in the butt.

1086
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: Bye bye. This has been an Earwolf Media production. Executive

1087
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: producers Jeff Ulrick and Scott Ackerman. For more information, visit

1088
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: earwolf dot com, ear Warf Radio, Boom dot com, The

1089
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: WORLF Dead