WEBVTT - Saving the F*cking World with Celeste Barber 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.760 Hi Catherine, Hi Chelsea. 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:02.800 Should we get right into it? 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:04.320 Sure? Auden say, why not? 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:06.040 We have an amazing guest today. 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:06.720 Who is it here? 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:07.400 From Australia? 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:07.840 Oh? 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:10.559 Okay, ah, you know her. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.880 She's an author, she's got her own makeup line, she's 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.360 a comedian, and she's the best Instagram celest Barber. 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.160 Yeah, and her UK, Europe and Dubai tour is kicking 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:22.000 off April fourth, so I'll be sure to check that 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:26.040 out and check out Blue Beauty at booie dot com. 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:30.640 Okay, we're sitting here with my girlfriend, Celeste Barber. She's 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.000 not only my girlfriend, she's a lot of things do 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:33.800 a lot of people. 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.720 How did I find out about you? I found out 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:37.199 about you? 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.400 I think probably from your Instagram because she does these 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.680 If you don't follow her, which you should be following 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.000 her for those of you who are unfamiliar, she does 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:49.080 these great kind of how would you describe them? 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.440 Just ripping off idiotic modeling. 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.800 Poses, and then how I would have described it, recreating 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.200 them as a regular person a regular. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.840 Parties, Yeah, parardies of them, taking inappropriate, unfluttering photos of 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:05.319 myself and putting them up against models. 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.920 And videos and videos are really where it's at, because 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:08.920 you know, when you. 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:13.560 See honestly dogs around me at the moment, it's a 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:14.960 whole thing. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:18.640 Let her sit here, It's fine, okay, as long as 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:20.000 she's not snorting into the microphone. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:20.640 Yeah, I know. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.679 He made some questionable sounds the other day, Doug, and 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:24.480 I was like, get out of here. It sounds like 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.360 someone's farting and it doesn't sound like you. Anyway, she 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.959 does Celet's recreates. You know what I like about it 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.920 more than the obvious, which is taking the piss and laughing. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.760 It really shows you how ridiculous modeling can be, Like 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.240 what sexy is supposed to be. When these girls walk 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.960 around half naked, you know, with like their tongues out 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.080 of their mouths or just in some ridiculous pose that 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:47.280 you're like, is that sexy? 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:48.840 Like when did that become sexy? 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:49.160 Yeah? 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.560 But like walking around, you know, you know, holding a 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:54.920 green smooth like you say, we're likely their tongues hang 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:56.720 out of the mouth and the caption is just dropping 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.360 the kids to school, right, And. 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:00.960 That's absolutely not what it looks like. 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.680 Drop when you fucking keeps to school, that's not And 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.000 that's kind of why I started doing it right, because 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.680 it's like magazines are pain in the ass and Mike 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.200 us all hide ourselves, and now there's this social media 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.440 that kind of seeps in without us knowing. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:14.800 I was like, no, I'm going to poke fun to that. 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:15.880 I actually started doing. 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.359 It before videos were available on Instagram. Oh well I've 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.040 been doing this shit for a long time, but it. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:21.919 Was just photos. 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:22.600 Yeah. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:24.720 Yeah, Well the videos really lend a little bit more 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.560 context to it because we were also just watching this 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:31.360 episode you did of Drew Barrymore Show where this is 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.880 an issue that happens. We get calls about this all 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.680 the time on this podcast about body image and how 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.040 do you know? Everyone always I can't get down to 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:40.600 the size I want to get down, and it's like 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:42.200 I always want to give advice that it is not 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:43.880 about dieting, you know what I mean. I want to 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.280 give advice about empowering yourself to accept the body that 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.400 you're in and be happy about it and learn like 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.760 how strong, healthy and vibrant you are and where your 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.680 value comes from, because it's not your body image that 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.760 is paramount to everything, you know. I spent so much 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.680 time in my youth and early twenties no, all of 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:06.560 my twenties just obsessing over what I looked like and 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:08.679 what a fucking waste of time that it is. 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.480 It's obsessing of it being thin, and I know I'm 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:15.919 forty two now, so getting into the sexy perimenopause vibes, 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:21.360 which is a real riot, and how it's like, no, no, ladies, 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:22.880 you don't need to just do cardio anymore. 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:24.960 What you need to do is lift weights. And I 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.600 think I wish I fucking knew. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:31.079 That earlier, about how important it is to be strong 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:35.360 and healthy, not just scared and skinny at all times. 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.240 Or it's like skinny but grateful because you can fit 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.960 into clothes and that body image stuff. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:42.560 It's it's all encompassing. 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.120 Was that quote? It was it Keith Mass's quote. Nothing. 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:50.000 It tastes as good as skinny feels. She set us 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:51.920 up for this demise that we're living out. 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:55.760 Yeah, we'll blame her for that, absolutely, but it is important. 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:57.920 I mean, I think you're a pretty grid example of 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:02.640 being a normal size and exploiting that you know, and 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.160 talking about where your value comes from, because you talked 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:06.920 about that and Drew barrymore So, I'd love for you 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:08.200 to say a little bit about that. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.200 Well, how I look is the least interesting thing about me, 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.360 and I've always kind of known that, Like I've never 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.920 been I look fine, but I haven't really cared, do 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:19.760 you know what I mean. I remember when I was younger, though, 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.200 my mom said to me, who are going out? I 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.240 don't know if maybe it was a school thing, and 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.359 school was a bag addicts for me, so I probably 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.400 didn't want to go. And mom got me something nice 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:29.440 to wear, and I was like, oh no, I don't 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.120 want to do it. And she said to me, you 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.080 are scared to look nice. You are scared to actually 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:37.080 look good because you think you can only do one 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:38.080 and you can't do the other. 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.040 And when I was younger, of course, I was like, 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.640 fuck you, mommy, you don't know me. I look beautiful 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:43.039 all the time. 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.480 You know. I was always defensive. But as I got old, 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.040 I was like, I think that's right. I think I'm like, 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.960 I know, I just have to know. My currency is 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.719 my sense of humor, my personality, all those. 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:54.440 Sort of things. People. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.479 You know, I'm very open with people and I'm not 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.680 allowed to kind of be But as I got older, 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:06.120 I was like, I really think my currency of being 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.280 funny and kind and cutting through shit is a really 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:13.800 beautiful thing and it makes me feel like kind of 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:15.640 really gorgeous. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:15.840 In that world. 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.240 And you know, it's fucking tricky because we want to 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.920 point at someone to blame them, but it's it's everywhere. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.480 Society just looks at women and goes, if you look 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.520 a certain way, then certain doors will open for you. 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.240 If you don't look a certain way, all the best. 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:36.159 Sorry about that. So, like even the body positive movements, 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.039 like they put Ashley Graham on one catwalk and they're like, brilliant, 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:39.919 We've ticked that box. 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.520 You know, we're being inclusive now. I never I never. 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.839 Started this to get caught up in the body positive movement. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.040 I'm very happy for that movement to pick me up, 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:50.680 but I kind of always did it just to make 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:52.440 people fucking laugh and just to. 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.840 See how absurd it is. 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.000 And I did this thing in my first stand up tour, 0:05:58.440 --> 0:05:59.320 had a section in my lihye. 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.560 I just want to say that the heavy panting is 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:02.800 celast vagina. 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:04.599 And they don't want you to think that that's me 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:05.560 or anything. 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:06.640 They've heard that before. 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.360 We have we have MEMSI on the cell for today. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:10.280 Catherine's dog. 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:15.720 Yeah, breathing heavy about if you're hearing, that's what you're hearing. 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.360 No one's listening to me. That the fuck is going on. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.920 In the background. It's like a doggy. 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.159 It's a whole other demographic for podcasts. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:25.640 Sorry to interrupt, no please. 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:31.040 In my first show, I did a section brave versus empowering. 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.919 So when I would post a photo, whoever the model was, 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:35.599 I'd look on that and underneath a lot of it, 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.360 you know, because they're not usually wearing much. It'd be like, oh, 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.240 that's really empowering for women. Yeah, look at us when 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.040 we can get get our tits out and look amazing. 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:43.640 And then when I do my parody and put my 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.640 photo next to it, everyone said how brave. It was like, 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.880 she is for putting that body out into the world. 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.760 So a gorgeous model does it and it's empowering for women. 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.080 Then I do it, it's like, oh God, the children, 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.000 it's so brave of her. I was like, that's not 0:06:59.120 --> 0:06:59.800 fucking brave. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.479 We have to redefine a lot of words in society. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:04.280 Absolutely. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.479 I remember breaking my arm when I was a little 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.600 girl and them telling me at the hospital how brave 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:11.440 I was, and I'm like, I didn't try to try 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.720 arm I didn't didn't do it on purpose. I didn't 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:15.400 run in front of a car to save another kid. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.200 I fucking fell over my dog. Like, there's nothing brave 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.240 about this. Even at eight, I was like, that's not 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:21.280 the right use of that word. 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.920 Yeah, and why and always with women and girls, you're 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.640 being so brave. It's like, no, you were just fucking uncoordinated. 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:27.560 You fell over your dog. 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:28.160 It's not bright. 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:28.760 Yeah. 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:29.600 Yeah. 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.480 You also said something on Drew's show that I loved, 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:36.280 which is you your husband is a tree true? 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:37.880 What is the word? Not an arborist? 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:41.360 He's an arborist okay, yeah, and you were talking about 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:42.960 what that means. You know that he gets up in 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.200 trim's trees and you know takes care of trees. 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:46.800 But you said that you've retired him. 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.840 And we both loved that because we were like, thank you, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:51.680 Like that is exactly right. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:52.360 You love that. 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:53.640 Yeah, he loves that. 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.640 I absolutely love that he. 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.440 Had Some husband is her husband, And yeah, I've met 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.360 him in person. We see each other in Sydney, so 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.800 Last and I have had a burgeoning friendship for many years. 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:05.640 We keep running into each other in different parts of 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.640 the world and they were nice enough to come to 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.600 my show and one of his shows in Sydney. 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.400 Yeah, right, and he is very handsome and I. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:14.160 Was really hot. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.480 I was like, good for you, Like I love this 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.960 reverse dynamic, which is sadly to say a reverse dynamic, as. 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.800 We say, absolutely, and he is incredible about that as well. 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.520 We have, you know, groups of friends where the couple 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.640 the husband is you know, well he's a like a 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.600 surfer or a professional surfer, but his wife has been 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.080 looking after those children, taking them around the world on 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:37.480 these world tours and stuff. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.000 But Arpy, even that's my husband's name. 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.439 Arpy even points out that he gets so much more 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.520 of an audience as being a stay at home dad 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:46.360 than our friend does with being a stay at home mom. 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.200 Like they'll be like, that's so amazing that so hang on, 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:53.040 you do the lunches for the boys every morning. 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.920 That's amazing. And he's like, yeah, a dad, so do 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:56.880 my friends. 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.000 Like there's sort of those ladies over there, but there's 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:00.400 just no audience for it. 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.160 And people always say how lucky I am, are you? 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:05.920 I'm lucky to have him. 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.080 I'm like, bitch, I'm flying business class every way and 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:10.280 you're all lucky. 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.360 Yeah, and you're also fucking flying around the world doing 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.600 your thing and but busting your ass. Yeah, it is 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:20.319 so funny how imbalanced the like the rewards systems are 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.840 for men who stay at home. But I mean, I'm 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:24.680 hoping that will change, even in the face of what 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:29.080 we're dealing with politically, because women are the reason why 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.240 this election happened the way it is because of men, 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.719 I believe is because men are so threatened anyway by 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:35.960 women's success. And it's like, you can be as threatened 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.760 to you as you want. We're still succeeding. There are 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.319 too many women that are like paying for their families 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.080 and that are the breadwinners. Absolutely, and there are many 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:45.960 women that are single that are doing it, that are 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.199 choosing not to have children, and that's a huge threat 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:48.560 to men. 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.280 Yeah, and that's fine, be threatened, but just go over 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:52.840 there and be threatened, Like, get out of the fucking 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.400 way and be threatened so we can just keep going. 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.960 Yeah, let's talk about your Also, you came when you 0:09:58.000 --> 0:09:59.840 were launching your makeup line. 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.440 Booie Yeah Bowie Boe beauty. 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.440 She has a great makeup line that she just launched 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.160 and just launched here in the States as well. 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:12.120 If you're listening nationally, you're listening listening domestically, if you're 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:16.160 looking ark, if you're listening to this on AM stereo. 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.600 That's how my father used to go, say a stereo. 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.600 He's like, turn on the stereo. I'm like, where are 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.000 you from? Philadelphia? 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:27.880 Anyway? My favorite product is that eyebrow enhanser. 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:28.320 Bring back the bush. 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.600 Oh yeah, eyebrow bush. 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.280 Yeah, because the nineties fucking stole them. 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:34.280 The nineties stole them. 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.280 And also once you're dealing, once you hit forty five 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.800 or forty, your eyebrows all of a sudden turn into 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:41.920 I don't know what. 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.199 I mean, wispy little same with my fucking hair. What's that. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.520 It's like all my hair has now started growing out 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.360 of my face and my fucking neck and not on 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.920 my head, like it's thinning and it's not like feathers. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:56.440 I like the idea of neck hair. 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.800 It was like goiter hair. It's and that thing. 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:02.560 The other day I was standing and I was like, oh, 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.640 this is really nice light, and my husband went yet 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:06.920 hang on and walked over and just like went yoink 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:08.720 and pulled it one and out of my neck, and 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:10.560 I was like, and asked the fucking feedback. 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.960 He goes, you needed the feedback before you feel yourself. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.760 Got these long, luscious locks that come out of my neck. 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:18.960 I know my sister's always goes like this. My sister 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:22.200 Shanna always goes like this. She's always feeling for her 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:23.920 whisker to come in. And I'm like, can you stop 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:24.760 rubbing your beard? 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:26.480 It's like she stop playing. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:27.959 Come to think of it, I just spent the weekend 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:29.920 with her on the East Coast and she wasn't doing that, 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:31.000 So maybe she learned her. 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.520 I was like, you pluck your hairs before you come out. 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:35.360 She probably got someone to shave her face before you 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:35.840 turned up. 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:37.680 But you know, no, there the thicker ones, you know, 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.240 you know, the black ones, not the little like I 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:41.319 shaved my face all the time. 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.920 I say, I raise her right result, it's a great 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:44.480 X folio. 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:45.400 It's so good. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.400 But then it gets a little bit I actually did 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.240 it before I came over here, got a little bit 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.840 a little bit of stubble there. Now. I was talking 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:53.800 to a friend the other day and I thought she 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:55.920 just had like a little eyelash here, and I leant 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.640 over and went and pull but it was connected and 0:11:58.679 --> 0:11:58.960 it's just. 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:00.880 A long one and I went, oh, that's connected. 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.160 I'm sorry somewhere and it was like really long, and 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.800 White said it wasn't there last night here this morning. 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:08.280 I didn't know was connected. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:09.880 The joys of aging as a woman. 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.800 Yeah, you need good friends, but no hair on my eyebrows. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.400 So that's why, Yeah, bring back the bush, got to 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:18.240 draw the bastards back in. 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:20.400 How long did it take you to develop your brand? 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:21.319 To create it? 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.280 And well, it's been in my head for a long time, 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.800 but you know, breaking news ADHD, So I kind. 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.360 Of I couldn't. I couldn't get it out of my head. 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:31.680 I was kind of at a point where I was like, 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:33.559 I'm happy just to go to parties now for the 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:34.760 next five years and be like I've. 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:36.360 Got a really good idea for a makeup brand and 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:37.520 do fuck all about it. 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:39.920 And then I met Claire, my business partner, and she 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.520 was like, you're a lot and made it happen. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:43.920 So I reckon. 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.360 We've been developing for about a year and a half, 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.480 two years, getting it all together and then. 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:49.840 Read to get something off the ground. 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:51.600 I mean, I've tried to develop things in the past 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.040 and I've lost interest halfway through. 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:54.080 This is too long. 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:55.719 I'm exactly the same way. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:56.000 Too long. 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:56.439 I don't care. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:58.360 We launched when I was doing a world tour, which 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.280 was great because already I was like, do we really 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.280 want to do a makeup brand. They're like, we've sunk 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.199 a fur bit of money, Yes, idiot, yes we're gonna 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:05.400 do it. 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:07.040 I get really bored of stuff as well. 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.440 So and so what was your impetus, Like, what was 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:10.960 your ethos behind the bround? 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.120 Well, I wanted it to be makeup that you just 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.800 you can't fuck up because I find, like I said, 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.720 I'm forty two, and the only thing kind of in 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.160 the makeup space in the beauty space now for women 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.200 over the age of six is like anti aging serum 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.920 or anti aging cream. Like there's nothing really directly targeted 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.360 at us. It's like we just my eleven year old niece. 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:35.600 It's all for her. And I wanted to make it 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:40.000 uncomplicated and nothing that you need to watch a seventy 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.440 five minute makeup tutorial to understand. Like, I love makeup. 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.640 I have a face for makeup, so I want I 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.360 really do which was great when I was younger, right 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.000 because at school you know, I look like a slapped ass. 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.000 But then for a year twelve formul I rocked up 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:55.920 with makeup people like them, and I was like, yeah, 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.480 you're bulling me out to get that's right, I've got 0:13:58.480 --> 0:13:58.920 it going on. 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.400 So I fucking love makeup and I wanted to. 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.520 We've started with just five products, and I just use 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.360 every single day, all the time to get you out 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.400 the door for busy moms. For I heard someone say 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.360 the other day that when you're in your forties, like 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:16.880 forty onward, you're moving into your invisible era. Oh I 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:18.840 don't want that, Like, I just feel like I'm getting 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:19.840 more excellent now. 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:20.480 I remember you. 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.760 Saying that one like, you've never been in better shape 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.280 in your life, You've never been stronger, more successful. 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:26.560 And that's exactly how I feel. 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:30.600 So and it's it's for like Wendy and Wichita who's 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:34.960 listening on the stereo. It's for those girls who come 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.600 to my shows all around the world. They're like placeholders 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.920 for everyone else in their life who are going, oh, 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.200 I've just used the same stuff forever because I don't understand. 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.440 I'm like, no, I got you. This is fun, easy 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.080 and makes you It's all about like the best version 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.560 of you. That's what I'm interested in, the best version 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:52.920 of you, and that's what Boobie does. 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.120 Yeah, and it's also low maintenance because I'm easy. 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.240 I'm not into you, like I like five products because 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.160 if I'm not camera, even for this podcast, you know, 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.120 I slap on some blush and some lip balm and 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.040 I'm like, let's just hope for the best. 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.040 And I think that's what most of us do when. 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:11.160 I can't be bothered with all of the shenanigans around 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:12.480 makeup and all of this stuff. 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.160 It's like taking supplements. I don't want to do that either, 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:15.440 you know. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.920 I'd just rather get a shot a week with everything 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:19.040 in it and he'd done with it. 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:19.960 I'm exactly the same. 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.000 My kids were given all these supplements a while ago, 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.080 and try and get kids fucking tablets. I was like, 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:27.840 you get that at six am, you've got to have 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.400 that at five, you know, and all these things. And 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.320 I just said to my husband, let's just not give 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.640 them anything, and we'll pay for a fucking kidney transplant 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:34.640 or whatever when they're sixteen. 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:36.840 I'd rather that. I'm not doing this shit. 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:38.080 How old are your boys now? 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:39.280 Ten and thirteen. 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:43.400 Do they respect you? 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:44.680 You just answered your own question. 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:51.240