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Speaker 1: to go in the fourth quarter, Michael Vick took his

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Speaker 1: Hokies fifty eight yards in seventh place to set Shane

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Speaker 1: Graham up for the game winner. This is the Miracle

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Speaker 1: in Morgantown. Hello, and welcome to Games with Names, presented

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Speaker 1: by Win Bett. I'm Julian Edelman, I'm Sam Morrel. We're

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Speaker 1: here searching for the greatest games of all time, all time.

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Speaker 1: In today's episode, Great Game Virginia Tech versus the West

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Speaker 1: Virginia Mountaineers November sixth, nineteen ninety nine for the Battle

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Speaker 1: of the Black Diamond Trophy and our guest Michael Vick.

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Speaker 1: First thoughts, I mean, just Michael Vick being fast as hell, elusive, quick, incredible.

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Speaker 1: My first thought is he stepped up in the pocket

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Speaker 1: he get that long drop back step up. Let that

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Speaker 1: I mean, everyone always has this notion in this this

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Speaker 1: this thought concept that freaking Michael Vick is a guy

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Speaker 1: that used to just take off and run. But he

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Speaker 1: was slinging that thing. People forget how strong of arm

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Speaker 1: he had. Oh yeah, I mean that, no question. And

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Speaker 1: also you're watching this kid and you're like this, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't know he's about to be an icon, absolute icon.

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Speaker 1: We were doing our little research. We were watching the

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Speaker 1: Nike commercials he's in. You're watching the Matten covers he's in,

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Speaker 1: You're seeing all the magazines he's on. I mean he

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Speaker 1: mean I think of Madden. I think of the video games.

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Speaker 1: I think like everywhere, the commercials, everything, you know what

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Speaker 1: I think of I think of the sideburns. It was

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Speaker 1: the first time people used to thin out their sideburns.

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Speaker 1: And I used to go to my guy and I'd

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Speaker 1: be like, yo, can give me the Michael Vick sideburns

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Speaker 1: and give them a little thin you know. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Remember they used to like thin

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Speaker 1: v like, hey, yeah, I can't get the Michael Vick sideburns.

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Speaker 1: Guy looked at me like, yeah, all right, dude, we'll

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Speaker 1: give you those as long as you stopped at the sideburns.

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Speaker 1: Didn't get the braids, the braids, I mean that was

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Speaker 1: insane too. You always had the corn Rows. That was

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Speaker 1: like him and Iverson, both from the Seven Cities, both

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Speaker 1: huge as icons. Yeah, it's pretty crazy that the four

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Speaker 1: years because he I think, Michael Vick, we got to

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Speaker 1: get Iverson On here. I want I want to eye

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Speaker 1: Verson On here for the stepover game Game one against

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. They lost the series, but that was iconic.

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Speaker 1: We could probably get him actually, because and let's get

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Speaker 1: Ty Luon with him, the guy he steps over come on.

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Speaker 1: That'd be fun as hell. It'd be very fun. But

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Speaker 1: you know what else is fun? What going over? November

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Speaker 1: sixth and nineteen ninety nine, on this day in America,

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Speaker 1: The Bone Collector was the number one movie? Was that

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Speaker 1: with Morgan Freeman? No? Its Denzel Denzel, Yeah, Denzel Washington.

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Speaker 1: I remember that young Angelina Jolie, you angeloking hot. Denzel

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Speaker 1: plays a. He plays I think A. He's detective. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he's he's bedridden that he has to use his

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Speaker 1: mind to find the murderer. A quadriplegic ex homicide detective

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Speaker 1: and his partner try to track down a serial killer

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Speaker 1: terrorizing New York. That's a bummer. That's that's a tough

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Speaker 1: way to live. You know. That's when you look at

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Speaker 1: and you say, man, it ain't that hard. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: really not. It really isn't. Also number one song Smooth

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Speaker 1: by Santana, Is that with the matchbox? Yeah? Rob Thomas,

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Speaker 1: ain't good enough right backing. Yeah, actually sat next to

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Speaker 1: he's Santana's a legend. He I mean this song is

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Speaker 1: it sounds unpleasant. I don't remember the lyrics. The lyrics,

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Speaker 1: it's something like this life is I'd give up my something,

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Speaker 1: look it up because I'm gonna butcher it. But it's like, yeah, zoom,

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Speaker 1: I think he won all kinds of awards for this album.

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Speaker 1: So who wrote it? Was it Santana or was it

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Speaker 1: Looks like Rob Thomas is getting featured artist. Oh thank

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Speaker 1: you Jack once again. Coming up the ridiculous trends. Pokemon cards,

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Speaker 1: I never I never collected them. I was more of

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Speaker 1: a Pog's kid. POGs had a minute. What was that

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Speaker 1: POGs with the slammer, Yeah, the slammer I remember that

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Speaker 1: try to do Alie, never never tried. I remember seeing these.

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Speaker 1: a tech tech. You figured it out. I've seen all

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Speaker 1: the dates you've been on. You figured out that finger decksterity. Hey,

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Speaker 1: speaking of Mambo number five, lou Bega, this song was

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Speaker 1: literally just about a guy who focks a lot. No no,

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Speaker 1: was a good song, great song, but but it's literally like,

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Speaker 1: What's that song in the background? It that's crazy that

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Speaker 1: Bizarre dnt D D How Bizarre? How bizarre? Or what

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Speaker 1: enthusiastic Macarena volta. Well, it reminded me of remember when

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Speaker 1: Austin powers is that was? That's talking about classics. I

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Speaker 1: missed that Fight Club premiered November eleventh this year. Amazing movie.

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Speaker 1: We've already, like, probably you haven't. We referenced to that

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Speaker 1: hard not to reference our age. I remember watching that

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Speaker 1: Helena Bottom Carter as she smoked the cigarette. In that movie,

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Speaker 1: soap material. And it was the explosives, right, Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: the podcast say they turned to each other at the premiere,

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Speaker 1: that's gotta be insane. I mean that that was like

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Speaker 1: that was a like a phenom type movie for our childhood,

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Speaker 1: Like everyone Fight Club. That was when Brad Pitt was

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Speaker 1: the coolest dude ever. He was in like every movie.

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Speaker 1: Edward Norton was fucking the same thing. And to have

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Speaker 1: freaks and geeks. That was a great show. Apatow. Wait wait,

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Speaker 1: who was it? Linda CARDLINI, Yes, well done, Linda CARLINI.

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Speaker 1: We pop culture fucking legends right now, dude, look at us.

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Speaker 1: The only reason I know Linda CARLINI I wouldn't I

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Speaker 1: like related to my dad's, my mom's like ex boyfriend

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Speaker 1: be a Millionaire? But by one more thing about Linda Cardolini,

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Speaker 1: I believe I could be wrong here. Jackie might need

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Speaker 1: Regis rip rip legend love Regis? Can you call a friend? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And then they tried to like kind of go further

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Speaker 1: Regis was. He was the man. Rip Regis. This is

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Speaker 1: also rip to Walter Peyton, who died at forty five. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Great gret Ski Is that is that right? Kyler? Can

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, Tiger Woods wins his four straight PGA

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Speaker 1: you thin it was Tiger out pooning yet? Or do

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Speaker 1: That must have been what just getting laid constantly felt

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00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: Tech on the schedule is the reason why I committed

419
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: the school because that's where you went, and I was

420
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: such a crazy fan, okay, and so it was actually dope,

421
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: it was. It was awesome. Now, why did you pick

422
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech? I don't know, honestly, I said everybody that

423
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: when people ask me why did you pick Virginia Tech?

424
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: Because I you know, I grew up watching big time

425
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: college football every Saturday, and I seen the clip scenes

426
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: that I seen the Notre Dames and the North Carolina's

427
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: and US season. That's where my eyes was locked in

428
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: on old schools. And somehow, some way to Virginia Tech

429
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: came in. They had the right people. Coach being was

430
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 1: spoken right language. He really he really locked arms with

431
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: my mom like him and my mom became like best

432
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: And when I say that, I was like, all right, cool.

433
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: He went to her. He winned me on. It's like

434
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 1: a relationship. You gotta make the mom. Yeah, I mean

435
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: I stayed like, let me streat my mom with a

436
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: lot of respect. You no sound to him, and I

437
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: was like, you know, if you do the same for me,

438
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: I'll probably land on my feet whether I make it

439
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: next level or at least I get it to give

440
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: me an opportunity. So you know, I just trusted him.

441
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: It was more about trust than anything, And I think

442
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: that's big in the recruit process, about trusting the people

443
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: who sitting down with your your parents and making sure

444
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna leave no stones unturn. He did that. Yeah, definitely,

445
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: your red shirt, your freshman year, your red shirt freshman year.

446
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 1: You come out, this is nineteen ninety nine season. You

447
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: guys start triculating these wins. You guys start compounding these

448
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: great games. All of a sudden, you know, Virginia Tech

449
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: was always a good program, Then all of a sudden

450
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: you started hearing these natty vibes and you come in

451
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: and you play a West Virginia team that's not really

452
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: anything special. But once again, if you people that play

453
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: in rivalry games, it doesn't matter what records you guys have.

454
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: So like, when you come into this game, are you

455
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: like we're gonna blow these fools out? Or what was

456
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: going through the mind? Even if every game to me

457
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: was it was so intense, and I've always felt like

458
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: my preparation had to super see anything Like Okay, I

459
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: could go out there and I can get stopped, I

460
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: can take off and try to run court, tell y'all

461
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: gain and get tackle court. Game to seven. But if

462
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm mentally shocked and I'm feeling good, I know it's

463
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: relying on my histins that you know I can, I

464
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: can really progress the team down the field of the

465
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: past the game. So I started looking at it as

466
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: an opposite, like if I could pass the ball just

467
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: as good as I could run it, we'll move the

468
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: ball down. And feeling a lot quicker, so I put

469
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on myself to just really be

470
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: great in like every moment. But they started with my

471
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: with my prep. I felt like if I came out

472
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: of the the filer room and went into the game

473
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: knowing exactly what they was gonna do. Okay, you'll trick

474
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: me here and there, you give me a couple of times,

475
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: you know, that's the game. If I can persevere and

476
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: I can overcome like eighty five percent of that, we've

477
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: been the game. And like I laid the nation that

478
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: pass in efficiency, Like I just tried to put a

479
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: lot of time in some of my preparation. Julie, you

480
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: know what that's about. Preparation. That's the word that hey man,

481
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: that's a corner stone of your success. There's all the

482
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: people around you. For sure. Preparation creates confidence. That's where

483
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: that's where you get your confidence from is through the practice, reps,

484
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: the preparation. I mean even for the both of y'all,

485
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: just to make this show great, it's gotta be prepped. Thanks.

486
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: Thanks for throwing me in there, Mic. I don't know

487
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: if I belong, but don't take it. I don't forget

488
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: about your baby. Oh thank you, man. I mean, first off,

489
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: USC is kicking themselves for not being nicer to their mom.

490
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: To your mom right now, USC, if you're listening, be

491
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: nice to moms. You might get now they're good heads.

492
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: I see that. How much of a rivalry was West

493
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: Virginia and Virginia attaching these days? It was a big rivalry,

494
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: it was. It was a scary rivalry to a point

495
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: where I heard so many stories about going into Morgantown

496
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: and it was a myth that it was saying that

497
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: they'll flip your bus, you know. So I'm like, man,

498
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: I go ahead and try to win this thing, or

499
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: do I go in there and try to just you

500
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: make it a competitive game, and like, I don't want

501
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: to get our bus tipped in the here like they said,

502
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: they like acting like you can't make it out of

503
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: Morgantown to be winning. But that was part of the

504
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: that was part of the competition. Man Like, it was

505
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: a rough crowd, very intense and if I can recall,

506
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: like I kind of struggled in that West Virginia game,

507
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: the things don't really click if you go back and

508
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: probably look at the numbers, that there was probably like

509
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: very you know on part like just with it bed,

510
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, average day. But we found a way to

511
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: win if we had a we had a late game drive,

512
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: game winning driving, a game winning field goals. So that's

513
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: that says a lot about just how competitive the game was.

514
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: But man, they had a good team, really good team. Yeah.

515
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at it, it was a

516
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: battle throughout the whole game. I mean, you guys picked

517
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: up a couple of chunk plays when you hit up

518
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: in that play action hit the crossers. You had a

519
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: couple of big time runs, But it wasn't until you

520
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: felt that, yeah, well that was on that last drive.

521
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: Let's get to that West Virginia. They go, they score

522
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: Mark Bolger's in the game the first half, he gets hurt.

523
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: They bring in some kid no one knows. He comes out,

524
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: has some hero type performance gets them the lead with

525
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: a minute and what was it, a minute and three?

526
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: They left just enough time on the clock for Yeah,

527
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: they give you a minute. Now when you have that

528
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: ball in your hands with a minute to go, everything's

529
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: on the line. Natty potential, natty appearance, you know, all

530
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: the bullshit of playing against a team that's not as

531
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: good as you guys, Like when you're in that huddle,

532
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: because I've seen the eyes of a fucking quarterback that

533
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: is going to lead us down the field. What are

534
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: you telling these guys in the huddle? Like, this is college,

535
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: so it's completely different. Hey, you know it's some cool

536
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: and I asked you. I asked you a question for short,

537
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: I was playing that game with a heavy heart, Like

538
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: you know when you were college, you kind of homesick

539
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: your way. It's my second year. I'm on the grind

540
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: be like they know. Now we find ourselves in this

541
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: very other familiar situation with the team, and you have

542
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: everything was always blow out leads, big leads, and now

543
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: we find ourselves in a position where we got to

544
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: fight to come back, and we got to earn it.

545
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: You really got to go get it. And I remember

546
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: my grandmother was real sick, had called my mom. So

547
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: I remember that like that last drive, just walking into

548
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: the huddle, like you know, I want to be at

549
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: a tell her how great this moment was. One day,

550
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: Like I thought about you in this moment, you know,

551
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: I know you wasn't feeling well. And then I went

552
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: in and like overperformed that in that drafted Thank god

553
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: we had a great kid to shut up the same brand.

554
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: He nailed the kit. But you know, I just you know,

555
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: I always told my grandmother when I was young and

556
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to play the next level in the NFL,

557
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: and I knew that was one of those moments like

558
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: if I if I rise to the top in this

559
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: moment and I don't make the statements and I do

560
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: it right, then at some point they gonna take it

561
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: to a consideration. This young man understands the game. He

562
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: got poised and uh, you know his heart was into

563
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: it in that moment, and that that that equates to

564
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: high draft picks. So you know when I walked into

565
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: that huddle and say the fellas, it was like we

566
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: all got a chance to make history. We all got

567
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: a chance to be a part of something great right now,

568
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: like like don't feel good, like to have the opportunity,

569
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: and you know, that's what it's about. It's about having

570
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: an opportunity through take advantage. That's what big time players

571
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: in big time situations do for their team. I love

572
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: the bag, bro. You we got to get you on here.

573
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: You gotta send us something. May I see you something

574
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: on the wall? How was that party you two were

575
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: at together? Crazy? Yeah it was. It was in New York.

576
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: He was during that Super Bowl I think super bowls chips. Yeah,

577
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 1: there's there's a bunch of good looking people in the building,

578
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: you know YouTube. Yeh. It was fun, it was. It

579
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: was fun. It was the first time I got to

580
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: meet Mike and and you know he, like I said,

581
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: Mike's a legend. And to see how nice and like humble,

582
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: and you know, it was like when you get to

583
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: meet your heroes, it's usually don't you don't have that

584
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: like lasting picture in your mind like, oh yeah, that's

585
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: my hero. They always tell you shouldn't meet your heroes.

586
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: And it was cool to meet Mike and see how

587
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: just humbling and cool he was. He had this just

588
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: coolness about him, like he has right now, you know,

589
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: just got that cool smile, give you that look. What's up? Man?

590
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It was just I always

591
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: school from Fox. I always thought, tell you you on

592
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: the whole crew, your whole New Agney crew. He yo, y'all.

593
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: You know, y'all did it big bro? You gotta get

594
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: into that too. Hey, we care, we care. You play

595
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: with Shane Graham? He lines up. You think he's automatic

596
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: because I played with Shane Graham for a year. Were

597
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: you guys like, all right, we got this. Shane Graham's

598
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: got this. Nothing like having to reliable kick. I'll tell

599
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: you that I watched Sane like really not missing practice,

600
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: and I paid attention because I feel like, you know,

601
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: the kicker is a weapon. It's really a weapon. Think

602
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: about it. You get a good one. Now you crossed

603
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: that fifty, You get it in and then almost guarantee

604
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: three repoints so the end of the day. Add up.

605
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: You always got having a swaggy kickers always. It's always

606
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: interesting because you know a lot of times the kickers

607
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: get left behind in the locker room. There's a lot

608
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: of eyes in the assholes. You know what I mean.

609
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: To have a swaggy kicker, that could take the ship

610
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: and like it also that that always makes it a

611
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: little better. I always remember the Peyton Manning thing where

612
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: he's like, you're a kicker. Remember that guy vander Jack

613
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: Remember that? Yeah, you know what in my back had

614
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: his day though he had he had he had his time.

615
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: Huh had his time, he had a DC, but he

616
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: forgot that He's still just He's just still a kicker.

617
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: Like you still got to know your place. I know

618
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: your place, Like, hey, I got nothing but respect for kickers.

619
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: I've had Steve Gaskowski. He's kicked us into game winning

620
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: kicks and led us into you know, super Bowls. But

621
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: you know it's still you still got to know your place.

622
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: You're not on the field one hundred plays a game. Well, Mike,

623
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: you were a part of so many cool teams. Where

624
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: does this stack up compared to you know, Falcons, Eagles,

625
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: like all these cool teams you're on. Where do you

626
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: place this? Well? I mean you always think about the

627
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 1: locker room, like when you when you live in it,

628
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: it's really cool. But when you when you move on

629
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: and you think back to everybody, like the character that

630
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: was in the locker room, I definite changed tech locker room,

631
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: especially Man and a lot of those guys in friends

632
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: went to this day, just like a lot of the

633
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: guys I played with in the NFL. But you know,

634
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: they all was special in their own way. And don't

635
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if Julie you had a chance experience

636
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: another locker room, but you know when you walk in,

637
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: it's just it's just totally different room. It's a different

638
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: group of people, different personalities. And it was always whether

639
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: I was with the Jets the Steerers, man, it was

640
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: always love. You know, Philadelphia, Atlanta had a good time man,

641
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: and I still love those guys dearly to this day.

642
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: Now do you do you get fired up when you

643
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: hear the song Sam Man? Nah, I be hated. I

644
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: just remember if you have to say, Man, when I

645
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: was there, coolness when out, it's because you made the cool,

646
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: you said, the foundation for the cool. Yeah, that's the

647
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: roots set. I love my Dona Modern represented right now.

648
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: When I hear saying Man, I'm like, I couldn't live

649
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: that moment. I couldn't get it a piece of that moment.

650
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: You can't have everything, you can't. You gotta talk to

651
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: us about Beamer ball. How was old coach Beamer playing

652
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: for him, I always had so much respect for him.

653
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: You know, he special teams guy, defense guy, and then

654
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: you get to throw him Mike Vic on your team.

655
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: It's almost that's like ridiculous. That's why you guys went

656
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: to the Natty. You know, I was more so crowded

657
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: coach because I mean I looked at like the fifteen

658
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: years Friar and he was always every year just itchy

659
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: closer and closer. So having the chaste to compete for

660
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: national championship, it's hard to get there, you know, in

661
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: any sport. You know, we all know it's just so

662
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: competitive that you know, every game count, every moment count.

663
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: And I think, up until you know that season, have

664
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: really made every year count and was well calculated, especially

665
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: when it came to approving, and he was able to

666
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: get me there and get a bunch of good players

667
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: around me, and we kind of came together with players.

668
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: It was a good mix of US, guys from Florida,

669
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: guys from Pennsylvania, a couple of guys from Georgia. Was

670
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: just good East Coast mixed. And you know, we was

671
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: able to to you know, taking one game at a time,

672
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: and Coach stayed in his lane and special teams. He

673
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: was defensive to a tee boyd foster Head that locked up.

674
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: So coach didn't have to do anything really other than

675
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: hold a special teams down and really just be a

676
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: great leader of men, young men. And he did that

677
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: to the best of his ability. And he came with

678
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: a with a core group of guys who like respected

679
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: him in the program enough to just you know, keep

680
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 1: our heads into the game of football. And you see

681
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: the butterfly effect of having Michael Vick come to your school,

682
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: as he just said, you know, fifteen years prior with Beam,

683
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: they were triculating getting better year and year. But then

684
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: you look at two thousand and four to twenty eleven,

685
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech has eight straight ten plus winning seasons. I mean,

686
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean, who's that. That's just straight correlation to having

687
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: Michael Vick come to your school. Ball out be an icon.

688
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: What was it like being an icon at such a

689
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: young age, having your own I had your fucking shoes,

690
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,479
Speaker 1: I used to have your fucking jersey, the head band

691
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 1: with the seven cover of Madden. I mean, I'm going

692
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: ready for well as I'm going ready for it. It

693
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: was just a lot man being a kid from New

694
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: Cornos and like just didn't experience a lot in the

695
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: world other than what I was accustomed to growing up

696
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood that I grew up here. And then,

697
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a good football player to everybody when

698
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: I my hometown, and you know, I get put on

699
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: the national space and get some cod just who understood

700
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: me and how to make great and they did that,

701
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,479
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I'm the first round pick,

702
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I got all these accolades, and I'm

703
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: ready to face it with franchise and you know, you

704
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: just don't really know what that means at the age

705
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: of twenty two. I can tell you this, if my

706
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: son was to be put in that position, he would

707
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: be ready for it and equipped for it, and he's

708
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: gonna maximize and he gonna, you know, try to transcend

709
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: it to it be a generational type of talent and

710
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, all the fruits of the labor to come

711
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: along with it. So I was really young, but to

712
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: you know, to look back and see that there were

713
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: so many people that believed in me, I think they

714
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: deserve a lot of credit. You know. I just try

715
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: to enjoy every moment the moment of it and soak

716
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: it all in that. I really wasn't ready for the

717
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: media that came along with it. I was ready for

718
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: attention that came along with it, Autographs, it was all.

719
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: It got to a point where I was like, I

720
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: just want to just play ball, man, What was what

721
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: was the peak of that? Like people hitting you up?

722
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: I'm sure like a ton of celebrities, it's you don't

723
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: realize how blessed you are to you know, like years

724
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: later you look back on it, still blessed to this

725
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: day on take anything away. But it was overwhelming. It

726
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: was overwhelming. I look back and I see why it

727
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: was the game I made game look so different. There

728
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: was like this is the future. But that's that's that's

729
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: the thing. Like I think Lamar Jackson's a beast, he's

730
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: a monster, and and you know, we all see his

731
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: talents each and every week. But the difference is is

732
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: those are a lot of like designed runs. Mike got

733
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: his runs through like improvise, improvising like if it broke down,

734
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: then he would take off. And he really did sit

735
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: in that pocket and try to sling that thing as

736
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: often as possible. It just so happened that like the

737
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: three times that he went and ran, it'd be like

738
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: for ninety five yards, So like that's you'll take it,

739
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: You'll take ninety five yards. I'm gashing him when I

740
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: take the leg express. When I started to realize, JUNI

741
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: if I come out and I and exert so much energy,

742
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: not too much, nook because my receivers. I used to

743
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: look at my receivers and I see how hard they worked,

744
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: the guys sacrifice and the running, Like, man, I'm overward

745
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: these guys. We gotta get on the same page, and

746
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: it's the quickest way to base the ball down the field.

747
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: They confessionals too. Whether I was in college, I'm like,

748
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: these dudes deserve it. They just running like the track team.

749
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: So you're being on the same page with them was

750
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: extremely important to me. Seeast at least he gets that

751
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: because he runs around. He gets how hard it is

752
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: when you're tired to go to the next play. And

753
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: I remember going out and train with Brady and he'd

754
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: run me on like seventy fucking roundes at two minutes drill.

755
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: That's how we would train. And I'm sitting there like dying,

756
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: like a I'm just dying. I'm out of breath, and

757
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: he's like, we got to keep it going. Like you're

758
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: throwing the rock, bro, I'm over here running fifty five

759
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: seventy five routes. Like it's good to have a quarterback

760
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: that understands that. You know, think you think it paid all?

761
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: Yo paid all quake the bid, Well, it's nice to

762
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: know you sacrifice so much for Tom. I hope he's listening,

763
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: so he knows how much you sacrificed, and maybe he'll

764
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: want to come on games with names at some point. Yeah,

765
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: so hard. We get Mike Vick, we get both the

766
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: Peyton or the Mannings on the on the podcast, we

767
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: get Bruski, like whatever, we'll talk about him. I believe

768
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: seven Cities talk. What's what were those stairs? Is in

769
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: Richmond that I used to run? What are those stairs?

770
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: There's like a fucking there's a group of stairs or

771
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: a hill. I went out there. I visited my boy

772
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: that lived in Norfolk when I was in college. Well,

773
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what trash shill Okay, yeah, in

774
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: Virginia Beach, Virginia Beach, Yes, Mount trash More excellent monument,

775
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: amazing minum. It was like it was like a landfill thing,

776
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: and it was a big ass presidents. Yeah, definitely. But

777
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: you just show up and run that thing. And you'd

778
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: always hear the legends of like Vic and all the

779
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: guys that come from the area to do You were

780
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: super fast, by the way, so that makes you want

781
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: to run. Yeah, you believe in that little body straight?

782
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: Did you? You? Did you play against Iverson in college

783
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: or high school? Four years before me? Four years ahead

784
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: of me? So I just missed him. So when I

785
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: came into high school, he was coming out. He was

786
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be pretty good quarterback, wasn't he? Yeah? He

787
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: was some gay. I watched a couple of his film

788
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: We dug up a couple of his tapes. He looked

789
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: he was solid. He usually loose. Dual threat, dual threat.

790
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: Pretty good at baseball too. Yeah, it was good at baseball.

791
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: He chose the right spot. Mike, weren't you pretty good baseball?

792
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: I heard you play some baseball. Yeah, I was decent

793
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: in baseball. I couldn't bet. I couldn't. I got here

794
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: with a pitch when I was eight, and that, like

795
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: you know how, man, I couldn't. I could recover from that.

796
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 1: It was like mental Toronto. Brett Lefty. I was bad

797
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: and Lefty never get big dude. That cookiees like seez

798
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: Bettery coming up. He just I couldn't hit it left

799
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: and he's okay. I'm okay. I can't batter feel but

800
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: I could cheer right there. Now I was. I was

801
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: really good. I was really good to outfield. You probably

802
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: covered a lot of ground. You ever play with yourself

803
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: and mad? What's that? Did you ever play with yourself

804
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: and Madden? No? I couldn't. It was hard for me.

805
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: It was hard for me to try to do what

806
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: I was doing on the field to actually feel on

807
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: man the master of that. I felt like I should

808
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: have been mastered that. But now I'm a lot better

809
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: when I played with Lamar because I understand how to

810
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: use Lamar right. But yeah, I couldn't do it with

811
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: me back in the day, man, So I used to

812
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: get like paid in it. I used to get Tom

813
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: and Drew. I'm wanted that big passing. Remember the pass

814
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: events back in the day four five? Yeah? Why and

815
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: I had the moves. It was take your pity. We

816
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: were we were doing some research and uh, we were

817
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: watching that Nike commercial with you don Shula fucking irlac

818
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: or like those were some of the dopest commercials and

819
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: you were like the lead. Yeah, man, it was Uh.

820
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: The league put me in an awesome position many they

821
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: uh they you know, they made me the face of

822
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: the league. I was the face of the LANDA was franchise,

823
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: and you know, we did some pretty cool things together.

824
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: I was on the Race the cover of Madden. Fortunate

825
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: enough to be a part of that. You know, you

826
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: just don't grow up thinking that that's gonna happen. So

827
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: when that happened, I was, you know, I got him

828
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: with the curse, you know, I got him to the

829
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: back curse. I missed the whole three easy. Hey, it

830
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: was sack of Christ that made it drew. Everything happens

831
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: for a reason, as long as we all learn from it,

832
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: and we and and just sitting here talking to Mike Man,

833
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: just the humbleness, I mean, it's it's unreal. It's it's

834
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: it really is fucking crazy to just get to sit

835
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: down and talk with I mean, he's he's one of

836
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: the greats that that literally has helped revolutionize this game

837
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: in allowing guys that are athletic, that can take off

838
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: and run get opportunities to play quarterback. And if you

839
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: look at the league now, even our pocket passers, the Mahomes,

840
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: the Josh Allen's, like the the Mars, all these guys

841
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: they can throw the fucking raw the rock. But it's

842
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: because of watching guys like Michael Vick. Hey, I could

843
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: run the ball too, you know, And that's a huge

844
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: part of our game now. And it's largely because of you, Mike, Mike,

845
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: who are your guys? Like, who are your favorite quarterbacks

846
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: coming up? So Randall? Randall, John Hillway, Steve Young and

847
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: uh who else? Those three guys that I looked at

848
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: my game like this, Like, man, people don't understand how

849
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: good John Hillway was, Like John Hillway was a dual

850
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 1: threat before a dual threat. You know, Steve came along

851
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: and I was watching some of Steve highlights a couple

852
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and he had some pretty big runs. He

853
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: was freaking off like thirty yardis and forty yards and

854
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 1: then you know, Kunney Heath came and he he took

855
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: the next level, you know. So you know, I used

856
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: to love more Moon because if I wanted that pocket

857
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: pass inside, like he was like so accurate and so smooth,

858
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: and it's it's just a throwing transition. He became one

859
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: of the greats. So, you know, just watching all those

860
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: guys and I just kind of like made it, just

861
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: like put it all in the pot, mix it up,

862
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: and like I'm gonna be a little bit of every

863
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 1: singing one of these guys. There's an old saying though,

864
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: because I was a huge Niners guy. I grew up

865
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 1: a huge Niners fan. I grew up in the Bay.

866
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: And the word on the street is that Steve Young

867
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: was the fastest guy on the team. I believe it.

868
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: I believe it. I grew I look at those clips,

869
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: go look at those clips. I lived them. Yeah, but

870
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: I I was a little like we we almost stopped

871
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: becoming forty nine Ers fans because we were Joe Montana people.

872
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't until Joe broke in or Steve broke in.

873
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: I mean that was like a huge Joe. Joe was

874
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: literally like fucking he was like a Brady type, you

875
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then they moved on and

876
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: it just the you know, the cutthroat of this business.

877
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta do what's best for the team.

878
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: And they did that, and Steve got his opportunity and

879
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: ran with it. How like, did you always feel like

880
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: you were like the fastest guy in the field, the

881
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: most elusive guy, Like you weren't looking at the guy

882
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: in front of you, because I know this as a runner,

883
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: you're not looking at it. You're looking at the like

884
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: the three dudes past him, because he's automatically gonna get shook.

885
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: So is that how it was? I knew I was

886
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: the most elusive. It was a highlight I had in college.

887
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: And the player that I never forgot at the high

888
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: school excuse me, how to player I'll never forget. And

889
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: I went back and watched the tape and I made

890
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: him move on like four different people, four defenders, And

891
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: my high school coach was watching the take together and

892
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: he looked at it and he was like, you know that,

893
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: just don't people just don't do moves like this. You're

894
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: probably playing the NFL doing move making movies like this.

895
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: So right there and there, and I wasn't fast. It

896
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: was like it was just a lusive quick I was

897
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: more talking from a non athlete here. It was. It

898
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: was incredibly fast, but I always got caught like if

899
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: I if I broke out, you know, scrambling, I broke

900
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: out I always would get caught, So I never feel

901
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: like I had the long speed. It was more so

902
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: I could get I could get off home, I can

903
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: get away from and then it's for you to the

904
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: turn of your jets. So consider yourself fast. No, I

905
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: never Yeah, they might sound weird, but I never considered

906
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: myself fast, more quick and jaactional answered Julius question, just

907
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: the most actletting the more axile person accolade on the field.

908
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: I felt like I was damned, like in a box,

909
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: You're not gonna give me in a box, I'm gonna

910
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: get away from. I just wish that I would make

911
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: eighty yard runs in the National Football League and then

912
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: still have the audacity to say I'm not fast. I

913
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: just if you're not fast, I'm a quadrant, all right.

914
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: I was a loop and so so that big running

915
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: based in Minnesota that people like to talk about. It's

916
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: one of my least favorites, but it was an incredible

917
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: highlight only because like circumstances of how it all happened,

918
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: and then I had to get I did a lot

919
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: in that running and I was really running for my life,

920
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: like she started to run into the zone with them.

921
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: I went through two dudes trying not to get smashed.

922
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, yo, this this has come casey,

923
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: this is crazy, but this is what I do and

924
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: this is what I get paid for. So I had

925
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: to letticism got me through them, and then I kind

926
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: of just shot through a gap, you know, and was

927
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: able to. But it looked fast. I get it. I

928
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: get it, I get it, and you and you can't forget.

929
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: I mean the dude that a fucking laser as an arm.

930
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember. I remember the on ESPN they

931
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: would just throw how far you could gun it. It

932
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: was like seventy yards. Still I still could do it.

933
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: I still could rip it. Well, we might have to

934
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 1: get up, run some routes. Then let's do it. Let's

935
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: do they come back? You know, may need a lefty

936
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: over your throat me a couple of times. You can go,

937
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: maybe line up on the line, see where I'm at.

938
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: I'll hold up an iPhone just to feel useful. Yeah,

939
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: you can come back. I'm not coming back. And I

940
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: got me breathing like shit and everything. Only thirtain people

941
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: can do it. That's wisdom. Those those grays on your

942
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: chim are wisdom. Now where does this game rank in

943
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: your hockey your hockey career, was this the one that

944
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: kind of like it was the comeback at the end

945
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: of the year against a team that shouldn't have been there,

946
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: but you guys still were able to battle it off,

947
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: go and get the win when you guys weren't playing

948
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: this your best football. Sometimes they are the ones that

949
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: fucking springboard you in to like your your groove. Yeah,

950
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: you know, it was the second the last game of

951
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: the season against Boston College is the one that I

952
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: really remember for the whole year. Obviously, the first game

953
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: of the season against James Madison was it was my

954
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: first thought, it was my debut, and you know, I

955
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: played one amazed and half of football, a hell of

956
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: a half of football, and then I got injured, and

957
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: then I came back, and I was sort of like

958
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: I was hurt injured my ankle when I was hurt

959
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,479
Speaker 1: throughout the season, So it was never really a comfort level,

960
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: even though I was able to accomplish a lot into

961
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: the last game in his Boston College where I felt

962
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: like I came into that game completely healthy and it

963
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: was a game we had to win in order to

964
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: even be considered to play the national championship and I

965
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: think I went thirteen fifteen, two hundred seventeen yards three

966
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: touchdowns like super FOLKU is locked there. Anker wasn't bothering me,

967
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: and like that game is the game I remember. I

968
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: remember the sun set in at the end of the game,

969
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: the crowd rushed the field and you know, student body

970
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: level ripped, They ripped down the they ripped the gold

971
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: posts down. It was one of the knights, man, and

972
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: we worked so hard that we had to get there. Man,

973
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: in the preparation we all put in together, man like

974
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 1: we was able to celebrate that as a team, man,

975
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: and it's nothing like a team set of reach. Man. Well, Mike,

976
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: I appreciate you for playing the way he did, for

977
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: growing as you have, for being the guy you are,

978
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: and uh for coming on games with names, bro, I

979
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Man Age your names is official. I love

980
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: the background working from working on mine. We gotta get

981
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: your working on mine. So you know, offend us a pick,

982
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 1: an autograph pick or something we'll throw in the wall.

983
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 1: We gotta you send us something. I'll send you something

984
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 1: if you want something. I got a Kent State Golden

985
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: Flash jersey. We went six and uh I believe he

986
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: went like four and six my senior year. So like,

987
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: if you want, you know, like to trade fucking it's

988
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: a story behind her. That's all that matters. That's all

989
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: that matters. I appreciate you, my bro. Hey, thanks for

990
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: having me, Thanks for coming on. Let me know if

991
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: you ever need anything. What's the legacy of this game,

992
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: just that Michael Vick is this is Michael Vick before

993
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: became the Michael Vick. We knew this is the Michael

994
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: Vick developing in to the Michael Vick that we knew

995
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: because we saw him, as you say, stay in the pocket.

996
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: But we also saw him go for some fucking runs. Yeah,

997
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: Like the last drive where he goes what like he's

998
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: looking downfield last second you think, oh, he's probably six

999
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 1: seven yards ends up being the thirty yard game, sets

1000
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: up Gram for a easy fuel goal. They go on

1001
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: to win, conclude the season with the winning Boston College

1002
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: get the undefeated regular season, playing a national championship against

1003
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 1: Chris Winky and those Florida State seminals. Winky freaking Winky.

1004
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: This rivalry got cooled down over the few years, burning couches,

1005
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: borderline riots. I mean, anytime you get a bunch of

1006
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 1: West Virginians against Virginians not from that part of the country.

1007
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: But I can only imagine. It's amazing when places are

1008
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: just like right here and they just hate each other,

1009
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: your neighbors, and you're just like, fuck you. That that

1010
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: that's that's everything, that's everywhere. That's sports. That's the Middle East,

1011
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: that's Serbia and Croatia. Yeah that I mean, in half

1012
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: the time, they're the same people. Yeah, I mean the

1013
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: Middle East. They're both eating the same shit. You're both

1014
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: making falafel great hummus. Yeah, but that's the life we

1015
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: live in. Yeah, it's the world. It's a fucked up world.

1016
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: It's a fucked up world. I didn't know we were

1017
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: going global with this ship, but we did. That's the

1018
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: type of stuff you can expect to get from games

1019
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 1: with names. It's not just games with names. It's geopolitical whatever,

1020
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 1: we'll do it, geo political, whatever, we'll do it. So, uh,

1021
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: Mike Vick, revolutionary athlete, paved the way for guys. You

1022
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: gotta give him at least a nod. If you're Pat Mahomes,

1023
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: I think with the improv a skill and being able

1024
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: to extend plays, keeping your eyes downfield. I mean, every

1025
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 1: little kid wanted to be Michael Vick. And you're getting

1026
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: all these athletic quarterbacks now that are that are pocket passers.

1027
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: But there's still guys that know how to run. And

1028
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: a lot of that is probably because of Michael Vick

1029
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: and Randall Cunningham and guys in the back pass. We're

1030
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: not gonna have regency bias. But Michael Vick took it

1031
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: to a whole other level. And it's cool to hear

1032
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: him say that he likes Steve Young because I can

1033
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: see that, Yeah, one hundred lefty, lefty scrunning, scrambled quarterback,

1034
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, winner, fast guys. I mean, it's pretty crazy.

1035
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: And it's also nuts to see the Michael Vick effect

1036
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: on Virginia Tech. As before he was saying, like, you know,

1037
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: Beemer was getting it going. They were doing better and better.

1038
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: They go to the National Championship in his red shirt

1039
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: freshman year, and then after that, you know, they go

1040
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: to twenty seven straight bulls. They have two thousand and

1041
00:57:55,080 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: four to twenty nineteen eight straight freaking ten wins. That

1042
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: has to be because of Michael Vick, you know, but

1043
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: you know they they still don't have that that Natty Trophy.

1044
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: They haven't gotten it, But is he the most electric

1045
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: NFL player ever? He's up there. I mean when when

1046
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: Michael Vick played in games you watched, Yeah, because at

1047
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: any moment, it didn't matter what play, what down in distance,

1048
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: like he could do something special. Yeah, you know he's

1049
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: got that same thing like you know Randy Moss or

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00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: or you know Lamar Jackson. These guys that are just

1051
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: so athletically gifted and such great football players and have

1052
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: made so many big type plays in big time situations

1053
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: where you just don't know if they're gonna do something

1054
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 1: that you see usually on a video game. It could

1055
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: happen any moment. It literally, it literally felt like cheap

1056
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: code shit that just shouldn't happen in real life when

1057
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: he played, and then him not even playing with himself

1058
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: in Madden because he didn like his vision tunnel. Yeah,

1059
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: played with Brady and Manning. What a guy. I always

1060
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: thought about that in video games, like when you played,

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00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: when you played, would you ever play with yourself? Always?

1062
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: And I'm throwing every time to me, Yeah, every time

1063
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: I played with uh. I played a game against Snoop

1064
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: in this little Madden Bowl. A couple like a year

1065
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: ago or something or some sometime I played with the Patsy.

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00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: I think, who do you play with the Chiefs or something?

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00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: I think I had like twenty two catches, two hundred yards,

1068
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: five touchdowns. You had a Megatron game. I was a

1069
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: Minatron game. But yeah, Jack, do we forget anything? We

1070
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: came up short of the prop bet Ooh only one

1071
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: Beamer ball? Mmm, that's all right. Though. We were talking

1072
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: about Carlos Santana and Rob Thomas and Smooth that won

1073
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 1: three Grammys that year Best Pop Collaboration, Record of the Year,

1074
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: Song of the Year, So good year for those two dudes.

1075
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: Tiger won his first PGA Tour event, the nineteen ninety

1076
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: six Vegas Invitational, posted a twenty seven under. I can't

1077
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: imagine what happened in that city. Okay, not a bad

1078
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: place to win your first For all you people counting

1079
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: at home, we had two quadriplegic mentions this episode. So

1080
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: that's a record, I think so far. A pronunciation check

1081
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: poke mon cards, not poke man. I said poke man.

1082
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: I believe that was jewels, But I do like say

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01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: man better. There's more fun that way. Well, let's ask

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01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: the cards how they identify and then last thing we

1085
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: mentioned Jason Siegel with Forgetting Sarah Marshall, and in a

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01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight New York Times interview, he did

1087
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: allude to the fact that this was inspired by his

1088
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: breakup with Linda card Leini. Linda Cardline, I know a

1089
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: pronunciation check there. Yeah, you know Rood City native, you know,

1090
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Speaker 1: big fan. She was great and Grandma's boy. She was

1091
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: really good and great mad Man. She was like late

1092
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: season of mad Man. She crushed it. He was a

1093
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: quoted is saying about the breakup. This is hilarious. I

1094
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 1: can't wait for her to leave so I can write

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01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 1: this down. Wow. Yeah, because his dick was out right,

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01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: that's that was the scene. His dick was out in

1097
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: that movie when she dumped him. He was butt naked,

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01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: So that must be what he's referring to. Wow, that

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Speaker 1: is the mind of it. Who who is the rock star?

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01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't know who was it a rock star that

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01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: she was dating a little a little more digging, But

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Speaker 1: I mean Russell Brand killed that role. And that's also

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01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean like that till that's such a Oh yeah,

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01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: he was low key, like super funny. But that's that's

1105
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: like the mind that's a comedian's mind where something bad

1106
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: happens and you're like, all right, good, like on some

1107
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: level good because I can use it. You know, you

1108
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: have to think that way. It makes bad things hurtless. Content.

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01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: You know, content, It's content. Baby. That's a joke right there.

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01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: I remember I had a break up once and I

1111
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: was crying when she left me and I got hard

1112
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: well and I was like, oh this is a bit.

1113
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: So you have that moment where you're like, all right,

1114
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: thank god boner while crying. I'm writing it down. I

1115
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: got a joke here. Yeah, anytime I got broken up

1116
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: with I would just put on like slow soppy music

1117
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: and what was your song? A lot of Casey and jojo,

1118
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: Oh I love someone. Let's let's name this game the

1119
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: Miracle in Morgantown. I mean, yeah, what do you think? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's the Miracle in Morgantown. I guess, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what we got. I mean, it's

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01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: we gotta score. Let's get to the little we'll talk

1123
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: about it more. It's scoring. What do you think is

1124
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: better the Miracle and Morgantown or the Jamestown Massacre? Which

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01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: which is better? Name recognition. I'm gonna go with the

1126
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: Jamestown massacure for two hundred points, so steaks pretty high.

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Speaker 1: This is I mean, this is high for a Virginia

1128
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Speaker 1: Tech team that has never been to national championship, that

1129
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: was going undefeated, but they were playing against I mean

1130
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: it was a rival game, so which which the Yeah

1131
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: they have a low record, sub five hundred, but they

1132
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: are a rival, so it sticks. What's seven seven five

1133
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: seven five? Yeah, star power Mike, but it's it's mostly Mike.

1134
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: It's mostly Mike five. Kyler, what do you think six?

1135
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: Well that we can't that was a curve, clearly, we

1136
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: can't just say what that's a gameplay? Uh? Good ending,

1137
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: great ending? Yeah, have that last scram rough half, rough

1138
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: first half. So it's like you gotta scratch that. I go, like,

1139
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: not super high, not an amazing, not amazing gameplay. Low scoring, yeah,

1140
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: low scoring. I mean you think of Michael Vick, you

1141
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: think of explosion touchdowns. There wasn't many of those. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say probably uh six point five, Yeah, that's right.

1143
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Speaker 1: The name five five. What's our grand total? Jackiere? So

1144
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: flat six flat six? Wow? Wow, it's a good episode.

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01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: Though he was he was very good. You know, it's

1146
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Speaker 1: good to hear from you know, guys like Michael Vick

1147
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: about their collegiate days before they were icons, which I

1148
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: think we called them an icon maybe forty seven times.

1149
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: That's what we should have made the prop bet on,

1150
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: you know, an over under of icon, calling Michael Vick

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01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: an icon, and I would have said it at probably

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Speaker 1: thirty two. And that's all for this episode of Games

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01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: with Names presented by win bet So thank you to

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01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: all our listeners and our sponsors and our sponsors of course,

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01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: go on and follow us at Games with Names on

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Speaker 1: all the social platforms. Enjoy like, click, review, unsubscribed, then resubscribe.

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Speaker 1: I'm Julian Edelman, I'm Samurel. Thank you for listening, and

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Speaker 1: we'll see guys, folks people later