1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, wrapping up podcast. 2 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 2: Elliott Wilson, my name is beat Out, beat Out, that's 3 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: your name, baby, what's up beat out with you? 4 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: So I feel the great Elliott Wilson. I saw him. 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 3: And you're in the road, man, I'm in the road. 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: We're going to Atlanta, Separate, separated witches man, what's going 7 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: on in Atlanta? 8 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to Atlanta for the Revolt World. It's 9 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 4: Revoked World. This ship, it's REVOLTD World. 10 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: It's Puppy's world, man, you know what I'm saying, and we're. 11 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Just living in it. 12 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 4: So going Revote World of having a cool panel with myself, 13 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 4: Trina Wallow, Simba and Tierra wack Oh talking about the 14 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 4: top fifty rappers of all time. Conversation that should be fun. 15 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 4: I'm actually kicking it off like I'm the opening set. 16 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, b get it together manm jalous. But I 17 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: appreciate that. 18 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: No, man, we're opening up, the opening up the set. 19 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fun. 20 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 3: So what you got a whole freestyle, you got the monologue? 21 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: How you said it off? 22 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. We're gonna figure it out. 23 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: You're gonna greet the people. 24 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 3: I don't know. 25 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 4: I mean we we did it last year, so I 26 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: don't know. I'm kind of I guess at this point 27 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 4: where revoke World's veterans. 28 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: Hey, Man, I didn't get the invite this year, Man, Hey, 29 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: that was going on. That's on you this time a 30 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: solo album, man, Bobby brown Man, drop that album and. 31 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: Don't be cruel. It doesn't matter because you're going to 32 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: be at Atlanta too. For Jermaine Duprie. 33 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: So so that yeah, so so Death Study of Anniversary 34 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 3: Jamado Prix. 35 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: I think. 36 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: I think the panel he's putting together is gonna have 37 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: bow Wow t I, a couple other people just JD 38 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: and bow Wow stayed together. 39 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: Should be comedy. 40 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 5: Because you know they always end up getting into it 41 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 5: over something. 42 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: So if you're gon chopped double JD. 43 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: But back to what you were saying, h you'll put 44 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: your panel Tierra Whack. That's that's my new bestiae man 45 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 2: with friends. 46 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 5: Man. 47 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: I met her at the Kamala Harris. 48 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: Think so I like her. 49 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: I've never met her in real life. 50 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: It's Terror's dope. 51 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 6: Man. 52 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: I was hip to her music a few years ago, 53 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: and I actually told Paul and jay Z about her 54 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: a long time ago, so I'm happy to see. 55 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 56 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, man, we've been here for a while. 57 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: Be not always trying to get somebody's side, man, you 58 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: know what I say, Hedrick Lamar and all that little something. 59 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, man, you gotta keep your head to the street. Man. 60 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: She was on my wrap radar early, so I like him. 61 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: I beat up beat up having these minded scenes like 62 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: let's say, let's call them industry assists kind of things. 63 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: But you never you never speak on it the people. 64 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 3: You let the you like ho, you let the people 65 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: speak on it. 66 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: Man. 67 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: It takes the village, Elliott. It takes the villains to 68 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: keep this reppering our podcast going. 69 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 5: Man. 70 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: We got to figure out, you know, it's about there 71 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: to you know, September time, back to school, third quarter, 72 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 2: fourth quarter. 73 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: We gotta close this year a strong beat out. Man. 74 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 3: We need some big ones. Man, what you're thinking, what's 75 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 3: the landscape looking like? 76 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Allen Hughes was a good landscape. 77 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Allen Hughes his great man. Shout out to my 78 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: lfe skinned brother. Amazing stories. Everybody loved it. You know 79 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: our Kelly's canceled. 80 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: We understand that, but that's still it was a great story. 81 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: Hopefully you guys enjoyed that. Sorry about that, but can't 82 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: We can't change history. I think it's dope. 83 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 3: I was surprised that you approved this guest. 84 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: The people that don't know me and b Iu we 85 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: haveing argument sometimes behind the scenes about. 86 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 5: Who should be on the program. 87 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: You know, can I share one, for example, beat out 88 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: if you don't mind god my girls sexy reski Ye, 89 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 2: I want sexy running the show man beat out and 90 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: shutting that down? 91 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: Man? What are the people think? 92 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 5: Man? 93 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Help me? Oh my gosh. 94 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: Ye come on, man, I read the slopper. Was that 95 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 3: not the summer anthem? 96 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: Ski? Ye? Come on, that wasn't it wasn't We need 97 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: female emces? Man, come on, Ben ski he should be 98 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: fun man. Maybe Murray take keys together. Man, we'll go 99 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: see how I gotta take Keith Man. I think you should. 100 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: Consider it man considering, But he didn't. 101 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 3: He didn't have to just consider. 102 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: He approved this guest we have coming up in I 103 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: was surprised, man, because he's a different type of mc man. 104 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: When we got to that, he's no touchdown, you know, 105 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: I call him like your favorite rapper's favorite rap at 106 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 4: this point, you know, like he's everywhere. He's on a 107 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 4: Tyler Trade album, He's on a Trap Scott's album, He's 108 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: worked with Don Tolliver. Drake loves him like he's everywhere, 109 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, he's inescapable, so he's no touchdown. 110 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: I was surprised you liked him go beat out a 111 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: different type of style, different type of look cloud. How 112 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: did you How did he personally connect to his uh, 113 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: his music? 114 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: I mean at first it's it's kind of jarring because 115 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: it's like, who's this guy with nails in his I 116 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 4: thought it was a week, but it's like really nails 117 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: in his head. 118 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: You know. 119 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 4: It reminded me of like early Andre three thousand when 120 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 4: he used to wear the wigs. Yeah, full shoulder pads, 121 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 4: the furry pants. Is just kind of really eccentric. But 122 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: will you give him a chance? Like, Okay, this music's 123 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 4: not too bad and of course I love them on 124 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: todl of the Creators album on run It Up, Yeah, 125 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 4: so I thought you know why not? 126 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said that how do you sleep out? 127 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: And he just put out getting high praise from his peers, 128 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: Drake in particular. 129 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 3: You know, he tells his story. 130 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: I love how he tells stories about his interaction with 131 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: other artists, but he's always he's still also protective of 132 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: like telling too much information about them. Like we asked 133 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 2: about him playing Drake his album and getting Drake's feedback. 134 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: He was, you know, he gave us just enough, but 135 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: he didn't violate you know, any kind of behind the 136 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: scenes conversation or you know what Drake said in particular specifically, 137 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: you know. 138 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 4: Right, And I think you know, you can't judge a 139 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: rapper by his brades, I guess because the thing that 140 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 4: stood out to me the most in conversion with him 141 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: is like he's really a student of the game. Like 142 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: he's watch all of our previous interviews. You know, he 143 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 4: loves hip hop, he loves media. So it's like, wow, okay, 144 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 4: this guy, you know, he's. 145 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: Got a good head on his shoulders. 146 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you watch the video version, he drove us 147 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: crazy or produced a lore. 148 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: He was like assistant that he didn't want to sit down, 149 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: He didn't want to do the normal setup of a 150 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: podcast music due he won us all to stand up. 151 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: So it's like we'll standing up like it's a game show, right, 152 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: beat out about to hit the buzzer. 153 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 3: Like a little game show. 154 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: After what we've done five hundred episodes the First War, 155 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: we were standing up. So yeah. 156 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: So the crazy thing was, like beat, I said, this 157 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: guy has nails all through his head, Like you have 158 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: to be up closer to really understand how progressive and 159 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: nuts it looks. And the funny thing is if you're 160 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: doing a conversation the podcast and like fifteen twenty minutes 161 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 2: into every moment, all of a sudden, you hear one 162 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: of the nails hit the ground. 163 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 4: Like pet, you don't be really dope. If we could 164 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: have like a nail counter for every time the nails dropped. 165 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: I think it was like three to four times. Man, 166 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: all the audio picks it up. But yeah, it was funny. 167 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: But I liked him though. Like you said, he's a 168 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: good dude. Man, he's a real student of the game. 169 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: His energy, you know, he's definitely a new artist that 170 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: has a lot to say, coming with a fresh perspective. 171 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: And I think people should really check out his album, 172 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: and I think it's inspiring a lot of other rappers. 173 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 5: Even he was bigging it. 174 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: Up too, and you know, just such a creative approach 175 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: right with the music. 176 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you know, I think that's the most exciting 177 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: thing about it was just he's different and not in 178 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: a way where it's like forced, you know what I mean, 179 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 4: Like it's yeah, it's just it's just a different take 180 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 4: on the game. So shout tis no touchdown. 181 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 3: Teas A touchdown, Man, we know you're gonna enjoy this. 182 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 5: Man. 183 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: You don't say a rap it up podcast. Man, we 184 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: only talk to the best. 185 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 5: Man. 186 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: This guy's has a potential be one of the good ones, 187 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: one of the great ones out there. 188 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: So it's time to talk to him. 189 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: Man, let's get it. TEASO Touchdown rap rate all podcasts. 190 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 4: Yeah here it's a rap radof podcast. My name is 191 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 4: bet I Elie Wilson Elly. I think we got the 192 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 4: hottest guy in the game right now. 193 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 7: Man, no touchdown? Thank you having absolutely the album. 194 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: Man, is everybody's talking about high praise, high prays for 195 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: the album. 196 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 5: Man. 197 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I've been staying offline. I've been staying offline. It's 198 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 7: just been accepting like the the personal thing that people 199 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 7: been telling me. And it's been great reviews. My team decided, 200 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 7: I'm excited that the people are like accepting this album. 201 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: Board it is like, so, what was your overall vision 202 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: with the project. How do you sleep at night? This 203 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: is your official debut. 204 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 7: Right official debut. The overall vision was just this album 205 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 7: is just my extending my hand out. I say it 206 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 7: was like an icebreaker to a very long conversation you 207 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 7: think about, like the brand you have for years, or 208 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 7: like a girlfriend or wife. You know, it all started 209 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 7: with that first conversation. So this is nothing to me. 210 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 7: We k extending my hand Hello, my name is too touchdown. 211 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 6: How do you sleep at night? This is an icebreaker conversation. 212 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 5: That's the that's the question for icebreaker conversation. 213 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it is. I think I think that translates 214 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 6: through the music. 215 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 7: It's a very you know, I'm taking your right to 216 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 7: the bedroom, a very private and personal space. 217 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 6: So it's I'm going right there with you. This type of. 218 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 7: Relationship we're gonna have, very honest, very open. 219 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 5: MM. How did you land on that? How do you 220 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 5: sleep at night? 221 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 7: I'm glad you asked that because at first I always 222 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 7: said that I pre trivel and success. You know, I'm 223 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 7: not afraid to try. And you know, if it doesn't work, 224 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 7: whatever stakes we keep and if not we r it 225 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 7: rolls off. So I was alred the mandre on after 226 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 7: we had a conversation about cause I had this rollout 227 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 7: that was showing depicted me at twenty eighteen, and at 228 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 7: first it was a it was an exciting start, but 229 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 7: as we kept going to engage, we started to go down. 230 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 7: And I remember Dante Ross told me when cause we 231 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 7: been had this idea of like doing like this biopic thing, 232 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 7: he was like, people aren't gonna care because it's so 233 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 7: early in your career. And then even after when we 234 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 7: go cut, when we shot that, I was like still 235 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 7: going back to my same places. So it's like I'm 236 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 7: showing this twenty eighteen thing, but like not much has changed. 237 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 7: So we had an honest conversation to say, Yo, this 238 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 7: is not translating and it's not connecting. We need to 239 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 7: make a pivot. So we made that pivot. We made 240 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 7: at the mandre on and we said, okay, so what 241 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 7: are we gonna What are we gonna do? And I 242 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 7: looked over right at the bed and the number one 243 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 7: question I get asked because of you know, my appearance 244 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 7: is how do you sleep at night? 245 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 5: Hm? 246 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 7: And I remember just hopping on top of the bed 247 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 7: when me and my manager, I'm all and door, and 248 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 7: I was like, what if I we named that the 249 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 7: album how do You Sleep at Night? And we do 250 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 7: like the the the art around, the visuals around it all. 251 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 7: It has like this constant thread or beds. And if 252 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 7: you go back and look at like my garage content, 253 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 7: I there's always been this constant thread and that was 254 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 7: out of the necessity at first, but it kind of 255 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 7: I think that's where really, that's where you find what 256 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 7: the good stuff is when you don't have anything. Yeah, 257 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 7: so yeah, I wanted to have this constant theme of 258 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 7: how do you sleep at nights? So when that comes, alright, 259 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 7: comes dreams, it comes this very intimate space. So yeah, 260 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 7: in a madreal standing on top of the bed when 261 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 7: it just hit me in it just you know, glew 262 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 7: out like that. 263 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: It makes sense now when you look back on your 264 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: Instagram page, you like laying down on all the the 265 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: the clips for the for the songs. 266 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, we shot that. 267 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 7: We had that conversation about two weeks of planning and 268 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 7: then we shot all of everything you see in like 269 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 7: two days. Album covering included MM so my U again, 270 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 7: I gotta commit my team. 271 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 6: I have a great team. 272 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 7: The reason I shine, theory I shine is because of 273 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 7: the you know, the people behind the cameras. 274 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: How did that personal style develop s t to this 275 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: look you think you have now? 276 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 5: Like that, what was that journey like? 277 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 7: So that was when I came back from LA in 278 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 7: twenty nineteen, which I thought was the scariest thing. I 279 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 7: was like, my managers sending me back to Beaumont, they 280 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 7: gonna think I failed, and I'm gonna think they gonna 281 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 7: think I failed. But I just when I something hit 282 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 7: me when I came back that like, there's no other 283 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 7: place like this. You know, in LA and New York, 284 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 7: you meet a lot of different people, a lot of 285 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 7: different accents, but I never really ran into someone for Beaumont, Texas. 286 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 7: So I went home and I just started romanticizing where 287 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 7: we you know, my surroundings. And my dad is a handyman, 288 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 7: so he had like tools around the house, and I 289 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 7: started putting nails in my boots and like you know, 290 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 7: it first started the brim of my hats, and then 291 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 7: we started putting our shoelaces, and then like a few 292 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 7: months later, I was like, yeah, I'm thinking about putting 293 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 7: these nails in my hair. And it kind of went 294 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 7: from that and as far as like the fashion again, 295 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 7: when I went to when I came out to LA 296 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 7: for the first time, when Trip called me and said, yo, 297 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 7: like we got your flight. 298 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 6: I just took my laptop. 299 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 7: I had some skinny jeans and a white tank top 300 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 7: and that's all I went to LA with. And I 301 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 7: went at for a minute to the point, like a 302 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 7: few weeks in he was like, y'all, I know you 303 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 7: can't out here with nothing. If you wanna go upstairs, 304 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, you can grab a few things. 305 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 7: And all I went and grabbed was just some some change, 306 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 7: just to wrap around myself. Like so I wanna commend 307 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 7: him for just being so welcoming mm cause you know 308 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 7: I literally came out here with you know, the close 309 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 7: of my back and yeah, even then, like I think 310 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 7: the repetition are wearing the same thing over and over. 311 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 7: It's why I'm so confident and just seeing what works, 312 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 7: seeing what sticks. So like this all, if you go back, 313 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 7: you can look at my career on my journey and 314 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 7: see everything a a tiny thread goes back. 315 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 6: To the again. 316 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 4: Your video A hundred Drums is the one that caught 317 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 4: Trippy res attention. He flew you out to LA right. 318 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 7: Absolutely so with a hundred drums. I just had the 319 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 7: idea that I just wanted to do something, something different. 320 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 7: I just hit my friends. I had to depending on 321 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 7: it disco instrumental. I just hit all my friends like yo, 322 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 7: be camer ready on whatever dad was, and I did that. 323 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 7: I remember my boy Jet who house we used to 324 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 7: record at in Bowman at the White House. He came 325 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 7: in and hurt the instrumental and he was like, I 326 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 7: don't know what you gonna do with that, and then. 327 00:11:58,880 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 6: He walked out. 328 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 7: I didn't know I was to do with it either, 329 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 7: but we recorded that then we filmed it. But I 330 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 7: I had this energy. I knew something like yeah, you 331 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 7: know tie inside of twenty twenty. But when I when 332 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 7: I had this vibrado and even how like how my 333 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 7: hair was, I just started painting my nails like I 334 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 7: had this thing of just being a student and understand 335 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 7: that I needed something that was gonna take me apart me, 336 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 7: you know, separate me. So I just had this vibrado 337 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 7: going filmed that posted it up, and then a few 338 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 7: days later I remember saying a prayer, just thanking God 339 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 7: for everything everything that I have right now and everything 340 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 7: I didn't have MM and then The next morning, I 341 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 7: wake up my boy Jet who else we recorded that? 342 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 7: Texted me No. 343 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 6: He called me you like, you know, Chance to Rapper 344 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 6: just posted you. 345 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 7: I was like, nah, you lying. I went on the 346 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 7: story Chanced to Rapper posted me, hopped out of my bag, 347 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 7: ran outside crying and like and that was like the 348 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 7: that was the trick of effect. And I always think 349 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 7: people would asks like why I do the fan of 350 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 7: interaction and why I do that? That m that what 351 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 7: I felt in my stomach from just him doing a 352 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 7: story post. 353 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 5: Ye. 354 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 7: I wanna make everyone who who's in who's in tune 355 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 7: of what I got going on feel that just just 356 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 7: I just want you to feel how good that felt. 357 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 7: So I started with a Chance to Rapper. Things are 358 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 7: going crazy. I come out to New York for the 359 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 7: first time. You know, I'm getting the uh the interest 360 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 7: from like labels and stuff like that. 361 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 6: And then. 362 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 7: Trippy Red not before I go to New York, Trippy 363 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 7: Red it happens to be in Houston and he posted 364 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 7: he posts it depends uh track I did like in 365 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 7: twenty eighteen, and then I DM Hi. 366 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 6: He's like, yo, where you at? 367 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: Uh? 368 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 7: I was like, I'm in bo Mane. He was in Houston, 369 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 7: and I was like, that's an hour and a half drive. 370 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 7: So we all hopped in the car drove down there, 371 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 7: and yeah, he said, Yo, man, I'm about to finish 372 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 7: up these few shows, but like in a few days, 373 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 7: i'm'a send for you to come come to LA And 374 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 7: I wanna give a send love to Hunter, his best 375 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 7: friend who was the one who showed him Hunt the drums, 376 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 7: but Trippy Red just being so intrigued on it, he 377 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 7: clicked on it depends and that's what he posted. 378 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 6: And that's, however, is so wild. 379 00:13:59,120 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 380 00:13:59,559 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 5: I know. 381 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: Another early support was Tyler the Creator, where he uh 382 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: post a strong friend. 383 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 7: I think, yeah, very early on. I wanna say that 384 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 7: was like the end of maybe end of twenty twenty. Yeah, yeah, Tyler. 385 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 7: I always say he's very we all know how intentionally 386 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 7: he is he how inally is always say. 387 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 6: I've only met him twice. 388 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 7: The first time when we record Running Up, and the 389 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 7: second time was in the green room up as Arena tour. 390 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 7: He moved with purpose and I really appreciate that. 391 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, y'all to run it up together. 392 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, we didn't run it up together. 393 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 5: And I don't grabb me award winning album. 394 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 6: Congratulations on that. Congratulations on that, y'all. 395 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 7: And I do you know, I like to keep propacies 396 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 7: like when when we were creating, but I wanna say 397 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 7: when we created that, the AC was out in the studio. 398 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 7: And the reason I pointed to that because I always 399 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 7: say it reminded me of recording it. 400 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 6: What's the name house? 401 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 5: You know? 402 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, what's the name house? And there's no AC. Y'all 403 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 7: sharing headphones and it's some mic. So I always love 404 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 7: when I could see the similarities at this high level 405 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 7: that you would see at the beginning. 406 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 4: MM got you when you're having a hell of a 407 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three though, Man, hey man, he kicked off 408 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 4: the Yeah litl Yachties album. Yes, let's start here on 409 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 4: the ride? Did you know the direction he was gonna 410 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: go in for the album? 411 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 7: No, that was just I'm wonder was it a fashion 412 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 7: week or did I just come out to New York 413 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 7: for that? 414 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: No? 415 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 7: I just met the met the Raisin, met sad Pony there. 416 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 7: He was just in New York. And I knew cause 417 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 7: I met I met Yachty in Atlanta. But when I 418 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 7: seen him in New York, oh yo, this is a 419 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 7: different Yachti in New York. It was something, it was 420 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 7: something different. I didn't know the signings of which album 421 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 7: was gonna become. 422 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 5: H Mm. 423 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 7: That was just the the few records that we worked on, 424 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 7: like I w I have. It was me, Bennie X, 425 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 7: been next to brother James. We all just pulled up 426 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 7: and Yachty just had these musicians all throughout the room. 427 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 7: Mm and I I didn't know what he was playing, 428 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 7: and you know, we just did the ride and wow. 429 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 7: And so to hear this album, which gets better each 430 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 7: time I listened to it, Yeah, congratulations. I'm so humbled 431 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 7: and thankful to be a part of that album. Also 432 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 7: the jump to the beginning of my story. The day 433 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 7: before I flew to New York to sign, I was 434 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 7: at Yachti's crib because I was at I was on 435 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 7: the trip tour and I was like, Yo, they about 436 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 7: to they about to park the bus for a few days. 437 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 7: And then I was like, but I'm not trying to 438 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 7: do that. You mind if I come to at your house? Yeah, 439 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 7: come on. And so yeah, those few days right before 440 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 7: with the two days right before I signed, and you know, 441 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 7: I was. 442 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 6: At Yachty's crib. 443 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 7: So Yachty, very early supporter, always still checks upon me 444 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 7: and and just tells me he loves what I do. 445 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 7: So I gotta say thank you cause I used to 446 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 7: watch when I met When I met him and coach, 447 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 7: I was like, yo, I used to have this USB. 448 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 7: When the cable used to go out, I would go 449 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 7: to the library and download interviews and stuff. And I 450 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 7: had his press one that they did in New York, 451 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 7: a part of those interviews that I used to watch 452 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 7: all the time. So all the first round with game, yeah, yeah, yeah, 453 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 7: I break the press one, so yeah, Man, Shauta Yati, 454 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 7: thank you. 455 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Traving Scott too, right, mind, Jaim, you got some 456 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: incredible placements. 457 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 7: I've been doing a lot of great things in New York, 458 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 7: doing a lot of great things in New York. I 459 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 7: always say New York if like a trampoline in me 460 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 7: every time I come here, about higher and higher, and 461 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 7: another story on that. 462 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 5: I'm big. 463 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 7: I'm big on privacy and respect the privacy. But this moment, 464 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 7: which is me and the engineer, so I'm I'm in 465 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 7: the studio, I'm trying stuff, trying stuff, and I'm like, yo, 466 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 7: try man. I don't think I don't think. I got 467 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 7: nothing and there cause you can't see in the in 468 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 7: the in the live room, and I hear the engineer. 469 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 6: And say, yo, he just stepped out for a minute. 470 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 6: You say he'll be back. 471 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 7: So in that moment and me giving up, he wasn't 472 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 7: even in the room to even hear that. So that 473 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 7: made me step back, take my time, and then I 474 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 7: went back and then how you have what you hear 475 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 7: on modern Jam? 476 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: Wow? 477 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 4: So I feel like there was more to your verse, man, 478 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 4: I feel like you wanted to get a little bit 479 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 4: more or was that what we heard? 480 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 6: I think. 481 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 7: I think I'm never to serve, so like take whatever 482 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 7: you know. I just lay everything down. And you know, Travis, 483 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 7: ever since our barrow has been very a music producer genius, 484 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 7: so he knows what he's looking for. 485 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 6: Oh okay, he knows what he's looking for. 486 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 5: With those collaborations. 487 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 2: And even like as soon as you plus play your album, 488 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: you listen to a song like okay, you know what 489 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 2: I say? 490 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 5: Is that a rock song? 491 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: Like? Do you feel like you know you're stretching these 492 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: genres and how to define music with this album? 493 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 7: I think that's important for you, for you when you're 494 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 7: coming out or with if you wanna just be you know, 495 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 7: in the in the history books are to be researched. 496 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 7: You want to kind of offer something new. And I 497 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 7: say that in the little term. I'm all about service. 498 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 7: So this is my offering. I don't want anything back 499 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 7: from it. This is my offering to the game. And 500 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 7: my sound is called rock and boom. You know, it's 501 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 7: R and B with the antenseitia rock the penmanship of 502 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 7: hip hop, and the boom is gonna shake the world. 503 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 7: I made sure I led with hip hop. The reason 504 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 7: that my pen is so well, I gotta give all 505 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 7: credit to hip hop. 506 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 4: I gotta give you some more credit though. Man, you 507 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 4: were also on that Don Tolliver project. Yes, yes, luckily 508 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 4: I'm having I love that song. Another New York reference. 509 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 5: I just. 510 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 6: Very soon I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be either either 511 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 6: gona be a Brooklyn boy or a Manhattan man. 512 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 4: And you king from Queens. We'll talk about your relationship 513 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 4: with Don Tolliver. I read that why you was creating 514 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 4: the album. You used to go pull up on him 515 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 4: and give him, like try to get feedback from on 516 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 4: the project. 517 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 6: So me and done. 518 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 7: You know, boy from down the street down in Houston, 519 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 7: we met, We met backstays of the Call me if 520 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 7: you get lost, you know, call it if you get 521 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 7: lost tour, and just bonded off of being from Texas. 522 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 7: You know, our twain got a little heavier, you know, 523 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 7: just boy. 524 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, and. 525 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 7: We talked like, yo, we wanna get him the studio, 526 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 7: like while we're on the road. We ended up in Dallas. 527 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 7: A lot of great music history happens in Dallas. You know, 528 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 7: Prince and Rick James first met in Dallas. It's a 529 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 7: lot of things that happens in Dallas. That's the one 530 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 7: I can just come off the top. But we go 531 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 7: to the studio. Another studio story, cause there's a message there, 532 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 7: and the engineers weren't as as verse that we needed 533 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 7: him to be, you know, hm, But Don couldn't smoke 534 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 7: in the studio. But Don, being a true professional, I 535 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 7: was like, man, you can't. I thought he was gonna. 536 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 7: But Don, being a true professional, stuck there, stuck throughout 537 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 7: the whole thing. And that's where we started. Luckily, I'm 538 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 7: having But we ended up wrapping it up in Los Angeles. 539 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 7: And yes, you're a point of of me pulling up 540 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 7: to Don. I pulled up on him, s I had 541 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 7: the album probably like sixty percent done. But when I 542 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 7: pulled up on my playing something that I had made 543 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 7: like that last night instead of playing on like the album, 544 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 7: and he told me like, nah, too, you gotta stand 545 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 7: on your album. You gotta stand on it, like really 546 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 7: focus on this body of work that you got right now. 547 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 7: And when the album dropped, I called him and told 548 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 7: him like, Yo, thank you. Well, every time I talked 549 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 7: to him, I tell him thank you, Cause when I 550 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 7: go and I work on these projects, that's the first 551 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 7: thing I think, like, Yo, you got to stand on this. 552 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 7: You have to really be focused on this body of 553 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 7: work that you present, cause I have songs, I I 554 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 7: have probably the album worked with songs, but this is 555 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 7: my first body of work. So any advice I'm getting 556 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 7: on this, I'm taking it. And that was a solo 557 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 7: when he gave me. Did you feel like uncertain about 558 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 7: some some of the songs. 559 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 5: That you were creating? 560 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 6: Absolutely? Absolutely. 561 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 7: I felt like I had a period of time when 562 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 7: I felt like I was making music for my team, 563 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 7: m making music for my A and rs and the 564 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 7: people at the office, and not really making like what 565 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 7: I wanted to make. And that was just me when 566 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 7: being scared to fail when he get scared to get 567 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 7: dropped or whatever whatever. But I think my team was 568 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 7: very honest and he heard that and I and I 569 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 7: expressed that to him like they like, nah, you need 570 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 7: to one have fun and cliches the sound. Just have 571 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 7: fun and also embrace collaborations. Once you're at this level, 572 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 7: everyone's good. So it's something you can learn from everyone 573 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 7: in the room. 574 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 2: Is there a moment when you started recording this album 575 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: that it clicked it this is the direction or this 576 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: just seemed like I forgetting my confidence, this is why 577 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: I want to go with it. 578 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 7: It's not on the album, but it's when I recorded 579 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 7: I'm Just a Fan. That's when we had that conversation 580 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 7: with just talking about, Yo, you gotta have fun. I 581 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 7: know understand you have a producer background, but like, let 582 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 7: the other people in the room really collaborate because they're 583 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 7: here and they're here for a reason. So I would 584 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 7: say it starts from I'm just a fan. That's where 585 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 7: it starts. And as far as the rock and boom thing, 586 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 7: maybe like the best like potent example. 587 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 6: Of yeah, because we had this, I had. 588 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 7: The album that we were supposed to put out in 589 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 7: June done, and I already started working on the next album, 590 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 7: which was we're gonna call it Rock and Boom and 591 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 7: just working on this sound. 592 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 6: And I just said, I. 593 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 7: Don't want to have the ego and think that I'm 594 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 7: gonna have a second chance to make my first impression. 595 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 7: M So let me mess these two together so they 596 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 7: can see what rock and Boom is now. 597 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 5: Mm. 598 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 6: So that's why we have rock and Boom on this album. 599 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 7: And I'm I'm eager and excited to talk about it 600 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 7: and you know, just play into the world. 601 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 5: And were you still recording a song a day during 602 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 5: this whole process? 603 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 6: Absolutely? 604 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 7: Absolutely, song of day, very not strenuous days, but like 605 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 7: you we may do four hours just on vocal production, 606 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 7: doing harmonies and stuff. So like, yeah, just a just 607 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 7: a song of day just to get it complete. 608 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 5: Mm. Yeah. 609 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: And what do you make it the high praise it 610 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 2: seem like we was teasing, like how it seemed like 611 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 2: your every rapper's favorite rapper right now, Like a lot 612 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 2: of the praise from your peers, Like yeah, I know 613 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: Drake in particular set, it's you know, it's praise And 614 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 2: how creative the collection wasn't music? 615 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 5: And I think you pulled up on him on tour 616 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 5: and played in the record first. 617 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, we definitely we met in LA And to 618 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 7: go home and see that see that post, it was 619 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 7: was insane. 620 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: Uh. 621 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 7: When I first I first told him, I was like, 622 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 7: I'm excited for you just to you know, we know 623 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 7: his lyricism. I was like, I'm excited for you to 624 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 7: hear you know my pen So when I go home 625 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 7: and I see that that's what he said about the album, 626 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 7: it was, you know, I've been a Drake band. I 627 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 7: remember when I first you know, found out about Drake. 628 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 7: You know, some girls put me on, you know, girls 629 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 7: put me on. And then you know that same week, 630 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 7: my mom's friend had some had her like nieces come 631 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 7: down from like Chicago. So like this is the time 632 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 7: when I got I got my Infinity Q forty five. 633 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 6: With the rims. 634 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 7: Okay, uh, you know what I'm saying, showing these young 635 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 7: ladies like this time of Bowl went, you know, with 636 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 7: Drake being the soundtrack to that. So the fast forward 637 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 7: to ask me look him in the eyes and then 638 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 7: hear what he says about this album? 639 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 6: What more can you ask for? 640 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 5: What was it like playing it for him? He played 641 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 5: it for him backstage or it was exciting. 642 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 7: I played it for my DJ app so I was 643 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 7: I was like, my low end is getting you can't 644 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 7: really hit these books, so let me let me turn 645 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 7: it down the low end, then you turn up the 646 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 7: men's and the highest. 647 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 6: Cause I was very making this album. 648 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 7: I was very self conscious about the mix cause I 649 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 7: was doing a lot of research listening to the debut 650 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 7: album debut studio albums. I was like, Yo, my mix 651 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 7: isn't sounding like I get Richard I try and like Nellyville, 652 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 7: like what's what's happening? It's not sounded like B two 653 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 7: K bump bump bump. So I was just that's one 654 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 7: of my references. I love that, that very clear tone 655 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 7: of that song. So yeah, but now I'm so excited 656 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 7: about how it sounds like shot out to my my 657 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 7: mixed of Scottie Demerison in Boston. But yeah, you know, 658 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 7: I'm just I'm protecting the prophecy of the absolutely respect 659 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 7: that absolutely Speaking of Drake, he brought you out on 660 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 7: the tour. 661 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I read that you said bringing him bring 662 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 4: you out was like one of the highest and lowest 663 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 4: points of your life. 664 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 5: No. 665 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, with the same day, No, yeah, it got higher. 666 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 7: So it was high playing the album and then I 667 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 7: went online and seeing just just the comments, the negative comments, 668 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 7: and I was literally curled him in bed, like hearing 669 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 7: it in the in like in the hater's ears, Like 670 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 7: wait a minute, what if they're right? 671 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 6: Like this is you know, I'm scared. 672 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 7: I literally went to the show and my teams like 673 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 7: have like we at the Drake Show like, and I personally, 674 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 7: I'm like, yo, like I think we might need to 675 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 7: go back to the drawing board. I don't think the 676 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 7: world is messing with it. And my manager Malwa was like, oh, 677 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 7: you know you playing it? And then Jay Hill was like, nah, 678 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 7: he's serious, He's serious. So but Monica, my hairstyle just 679 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 7: told me. She was like, once you if you got 680 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 7: a hundred people that love you and teen people that 681 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 7: dislike you, when you get a hundred thousand, that level, 682 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 7: that number of people who dislike you is gonna increase. 683 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 7: You just gotta she said, Are you gonna listen to 684 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 7: what Drake just said in this comment section? Are you 685 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 7: gonna listen to what a faceless person just you know, 686 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 7: but what. 687 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 5: They hate you online about? What was what was speaking of? 688 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 6: Just this wasn't. Is this what Drake called the best 689 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 6: music that he ever heard? 690 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 7: Okay, I'm a TEASO fan, but I kind of expect 691 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 7: a little bit more from what, you know, what what 692 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 7: I was getting, Yeah, a lot of that, and it 693 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 7: got me down. But I would say, you know, charying success, 694 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 7: use me at learn from my mistakes, learned from my 695 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 7: from my corrections. I think once you first started, once 696 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 7: you first starting off, nobody's gonna care. Then the people 697 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 7: who do care probably gonna be in your immediate vicinity, 698 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 7: so like it's gonna be all great things. But once 699 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 7: you break past that level, you're gonna get the people 700 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 7: who are indifferent and don't really I think that's a 701 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 7: good sign, so don't really run from it. 702 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 6: I'm speaking from experience. 703 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 7: When I first felt it, I've curled up in the bed, 704 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 7: But I can't really speak past level because of when 705 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 7: I'm at right now. No, yeah, I can, because the 706 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 7: album is out. I remember receiving good love in person. 707 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 7: So after you get past the internet part, you're gonna 708 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 7: start running to the people that actually tell you how 709 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 7: much they care for you, eye to eye and face 710 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 7: to face. 711 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 6: So don't even trip on. 712 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: That and no, family is important too, Like though it 713 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: was interesting that familiarity stuck around, right, that's one of 714 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: the earliest releases. 715 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 5: Why did that still need to be on the album 716 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 5: in your judgment, I. 717 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 7: Think just because story and just I want that story 718 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 7: to be. I think I need you, I need you 719 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 7: to know that about me. Like I said, this is 720 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 7: a very intimate album. I think you need to know 721 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 7: when I'm doubting myself, I think you need to know that. 722 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 6: And then also this. 723 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 7: Morning I was getting ready, I want I want to 724 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 7: correct myself on the line I said, I said, I'm 725 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 7: a little old for roommates. I want to send this 726 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 7: out publicly. You never your story ain't got nothing to 727 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 7: do with nobody else's story. However long it take. That's 728 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 7: on you. Don't don't trip on that. Don't put yourself 729 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 7: on the timeline. So this is me publicly said, I 730 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 7: apologize for putting that line in. So if you got 731 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 7: a roommate or whatever, it's all a part of your journey. 732 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 7: Don't even be ashamed of that. On the course of 733 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 7: that song, you said I'm not coming back home until 734 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 7: I'm a man. 735 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 4: Did you feel like a masculated that things weren't taken 736 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 4: off at the time, probably. 737 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 7: Not even mascualated, just felt small, I think before before anything. 738 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 6: But it's funny. 739 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 7: Before I before I left the hometown on this previous 740 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 7: trip that I haven't been back since I'm in jack 741 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 7: Books airport, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, man, I'm not 742 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 7: coming back home to star and I just said that 743 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 7: just you know, just it with that verbrido. But here 744 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 7: we are right now. I'm on rap Radar debut album, 745 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 7: and I think I think those words are I think 746 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 7: those words are definitely coming into paration for sure. 747 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 5: I love the scene. Is that really your dad in 748 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 5: the video? Oh? 749 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 7: No, no, no no, So so that's that's that's Thomas Bishop, right, 750 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 7: So we found we found Thomas By. It's funny because 751 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 7: you initially found him on TikTok because he he did 752 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 7: he had like stitched together as a video I did 753 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 7: on another interview our Generation Music, and he was like, cool, 754 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 7: hurt not it being hip hop for you to walk. 755 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 6: Around with these nails in your head. You probably can't 756 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 6: even probly do an airport. 757 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 7: But during that time, we were looking for the person 758 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 7: who was gonna play my dad during this stuff, and 759 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 7: I'm all knowing my managers like, yo, this may be 760 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 7: the person that we that we should that we should 761 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 7: use as your dad. 762 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 6: And it's funny that he said, like you probably won't 763 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 6: be able to. 764 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 7: Get on the on the airport and we flew him 765 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 7: down and pulled out the Texas to play my dad 766 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 7: and that thing. So like it's it's crazy how you 767 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 7: know how that works, how you can take something something negative, 768 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 7: you know, and use it for the positive. But I 769 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 7: also want to say, I don't want to keep rewarding 770 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 7: negativity because that fans who's been hitting me up every day, like, yo, 771 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 7: he didn't, he didn't, he didn't respond by I seen 772 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 7: he just responds to this negative comment. It's gonna make 773 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 7: that person wanna switch and say, oh, I see what 774 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 7: you react to. So it ain't gonna work again. That 775 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 7: was the one time, So stay with family. 776 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: Like your dad was a DJ, right, absolutely, He's the 777 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 4: one that kind of exposed you to all the the music. 778 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my dad was the first one. 779 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 7: My first like Christmas gifts and stuff that I remember 780 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 7: was like DJ Christmas, like Soriado and stuff like that. 781 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 7: Actually having a I remember we had like the digital 782 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 7: version then like I wanted viny just because you know 783 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 7: it's hip hop. So yeah, my dad from elementary school 784 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 7: every weekend ally up until college, just download and Billboard 785 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 7: one hundred, sorry about that, and just DJing wedding's retirement parties, 786 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 7: graduations and just seeing what songs, seeing what songs brought 787 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 7: people to the dam floor, what took them off? 788 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 6: Oh this made them go get something to eat? 789 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 7: Oh, y'all loved the single of this album, which I 790 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 7: don't like the B side of it, like, so just 791 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 7: seeing what what people really like. So I credit a 792 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 7: lot of that to my dad and just DJing r 793 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 7: U d J yourself right, Oh yeah, I still got 794 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 7: the DJ app on my phone right now. I just yeah, 795 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 7: I still. 796 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 5: Scratching all that. 797 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 7: That's definitely pictures of me were like techniques in front 798 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 7: of me for sure. 799 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 5: Okay, you still could do a party now. 800 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 7: I just did want off the phone, just just a 801 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 7: little curation. But I'm definitely gonna definitely bring those back 802 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 7: out and do that for sure. You going by Touchdown 803 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 7: as a DJ, oh No, I was going by king 804 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 7: La Shane. 805 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: Kinglan Shane what some shan go to records records you 806 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: kind of remember enjoy playing. 807 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 7: I don't remember, but I do biblically remember playing Little 808 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 7: John and actual fight springing out. 809 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go, that's it, and. 810 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 7: Just feeling that, like that's one thing that I remember 811 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 7: just playing and then this, you know, someone getting slammed 812 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 7: into the wall on the side. 813 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 6: And I'm a kid, why this is happening? 814 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 7: So I think just seeing that, also DJing parties and 815 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 7: playing like a three six Mafie and hearing kids and 816 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 7: scream and terror. 817 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 6: Because they're like, no, this is the Devil's music. So 818 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 6: like seeing that. 819 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so I've seen like the extremes of what 820 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 7: music can do, which is really cool. 821 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 5: Was you into the screw and chop stuff? 822 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 7: Oh, come on, I'm glad you bought that. Of course, 823 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 7: Little Flip is my favorite rapper. Oh okay, my favorite rapper. 824 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 7: So yeah, I think I used to be so fanned 825 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 7: out or like hearing like a big mo and hearing 826 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 7: him take breaths in between lines, like I remember holding 827 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 7: the radio to my ear just hearing them breathe, like whoa, 828 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 7: this is a human, like this is like a person, 829 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 7: and with them being from Houston, even when pictures get 830 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 7: taken to Houston, when artists perform in Houston. To me, 831 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 7: it looks so different, like y'all right down the street 832 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 7: from my house. So yeah, of course, I just I 833 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 7: think one of the real surreal things of this moment 834 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 7: that I have right now was being able to call 835 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 7: og Ran and see a few days ago and just 836 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 7: ask him about this R and B group that I 837 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 7: that I was asking about, and him being able to 838 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 7: like just tell me like who had been there firsthand 839 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 7: and be able to see this. So to be able 840 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 7: to still call those people and talk to those people 841 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 7: with this, I think that I'm a fan of What 842 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 7: more can I asks for her? So yeah, a huge 843 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 7: group friend, hu, huge group end. Yeah, it seems like 844 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 7: you're a big fan of Janello Net. She's on the 845 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 7: album as well. 846 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 4: You said, uh on Twitter, I can't believe I have 847 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 4: a song with Janell Monet. 848 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, just you know, talking about debuts, like I remember 849 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 7: how they how Janemo on the debuty and her showmanship. 850 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 6: Out the gate mm and still. 851 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 7: Continues to do that, to still continue to push to 852 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 7: p uh push what artistry is in the self expression 853 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 7: and to meet her. And I always say that the 854 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 7: great people who are who are who are ran into 855 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 7: they have these three qualities, and now these three qualities 856 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 7: are what I stand by. They all have hospitality, they 857 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 7: have professionalism, and they have to twinkle in their eye 858 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 7: because they. 859 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 6: Love what they do. 860 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 7: MM and Genemo, they definitely has that. I was honest 861 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 7: that that was the first person who I played for 862 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 7: on this album. 863 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 5: Why was she the right voice for the US for 864 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 5: that song? 865 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 6: I think that's just her talent. 866 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 7: I think I think my team reached out and was like, Yo, 867 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 7: what if it Janelloynae Cause janellmo One has been showing 868 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 7: me love Like I was at her house. 869 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 6: I was born on Halloween. I was at her house 870 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 6: at her party. 871 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 5: You know about her parties. 872 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 6: Now, yeah, the first time, the first time, I always 873 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 6: say the first time I met her. 874 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 7: I don't even know if I truly met her because 875 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 7: it was a rabbit that grabbed me from the front 876 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 7: door and escorting me in. So so yeah, just person 877 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 7: played person played for jelmo One and the beautiful people 878 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 7: that wanted to land and just them just pouring into me, 879 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 7: telling me what they love about the album and just 880 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 7: sharing those stories like I'm glad that that was. That 881 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 7: was a great first person that first played for and 882 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 7: the first person that you hear other. 883 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 6: Than me on this album. 884 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you kept the features kind of to a minimum 885 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 4: on this time around, right. 886 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, out of fear. Out of fear and uh, just 887 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 7: of asking for things. I'm working on it, but yeah, 888 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 7: that was just out of fear of just being scared 889 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 7: to ask someone to It was to the point that 890 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 7: I wouldn't even I was like, I'm not even gonna 891 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 7: make something with them in mind because i know I'm 892 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 7: gonna have this fear of asking. So I'm working on that. 893 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 7: So like Janel Monee, I didn't come up with a fear. 894 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 7: I have my you know, our teams connected bouchet. We 895 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 7: just had a relationship of just being friends and so 896 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 7: that was natural. 897 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 6: And then Isaiah Russ, I'm a fan of him. 898 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 7: He's the front man of a punk band and he 899 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 7: used to fade them all. So it's like with my peers, 900 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 7: I don't get that that that. 901 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 6: That bubbui feeling in my stomach. 902 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 7: But like with the stars, me being so many years 903 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 7: of being a fan, they're still stars to me, and 904 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 7: I'm still scared. 905 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 5: I'm still scared. Were you scared of stuff? 906 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 4: In that stage with Toddler the Creator during uh, call 907 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 4: me for get Lost tour. 908 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 7: I wasn't because he came in and he told me 909 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 7: something that I always tell people who are like going 910 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 7: on the first tour or just about the gone stage. 911 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 7: He told me, he was like, they're gonna be standing there, 912 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 7: They're gonna be looking at you. 913 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 6: Don't take it upfins to it. They're just processing you. 914 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 7: So as an opening act, Yeah, that took away any 915 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 7: fear or worry of going on that on on that stage. 916 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 7: My man concerned was just giving these people a great show. 917 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 7: But then him telling me that took away any stage 918 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 7: fright or fear that I have. 919 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 5: I read before you go on the show, you listen 920 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 5: to gospel music. 921 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 6: I haven't done that in a while. 922 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 7: But what I do now I just call my dad 923 00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 7: and we say the Lord's Prayer before I go on. 924 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 7: So we still got God in the room. 925 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 6: Still on the writer. 926 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 2: Talk about family again too, with the Daddy Mama drama, like, yeah, 927 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 2: how do you balance that? Like it's I guess whatever 928 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: fame looks like, right in terms of celebrity or getting 929 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: noticed and still dealing and being there for family and 930 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 2: the challenge of that. 931 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 7: The day the album came out, cause I played my 932 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 7: dad a few songs of that album, but I didn't 933 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 7: play on Daddy Mama Drama m And I would hear 934 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 7: other artists say like they would play like these personal 935 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 7: records for people before they put them out. I didn't 936 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 7: do that only because I knew this wasn't like a 937 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 7: oh I hate my parents' thing like my I had 938 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 7: the blessing of my I was the first child that 939 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 7: my parents were able. When I say able, I mean 940 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 7: that they were able to raise you know what I'm saying. 941 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 7: My mom from uh what she from? She from wood 942 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,959 Speaker 7: Be in Mississippi. My dad's from Nacadocha's you know, life 943 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 7: is crazy. But I was the first one they were 944 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 7: able to, you know. And I always commend him. I 945 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 7: was like for me to be the you know, the 946 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 7: first child that y'all raised together and y'all make a start. 947 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 7: I always come in them and tell them thank you 948 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 7: so much. A lot of the hosperciity that I have 949 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 7: all comes from, you know, my parents. So when I 950 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 7: did like a song with Dandy Mama Drama and I say, 951 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 7: you know, when I turn thirteen, they say, when I 952 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 7: turned thirteen, I just stopped caring. And my dad told me. 953 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 7: He was like, yeah, man, it's like I want. When 954 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 7: people tell me they got kids, the first thing I 955 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 7: ask him is they made that change it when they 956 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 7: just stopped liking your parents stop liking themselves. So mm 957 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 7: hearing that, I'm I'm also afraid of of having that 958 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 7: moment when there's thing that you have seen and you 959 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 7: held one day just whatever happens to it's just, you know, stops. 960 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 7: But that's support system for my for my family. I 961 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 7: think I'm thankful for it. I think out of fear, 962 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 7: you know, they they want you to go to college, 963 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 7: you know, yeah, they just want you to be alright. 964 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 7: So for for just to start happening for me, they 965 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 7: become my biggest supporters. And I think for the next generation, 966 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 7: you know, when we start having kids, I think they'll 967 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 7: have a little bit easier because we are to live 968 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 7: and breathing thing that it's possible support the kids like, 969 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 7: let them do whatever they want. And you know what 970 00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 7: I'm saying, lead by example. 971 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, going back to being from Texas, Like a lot 972 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 2: of times we'll see you could be successful in Texas 973 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: and have a career, right, but you seem like you 974 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 2: from jump Addup ambition. You want to be bigger and 975 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 2: be bigger than just the home state. 976 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 7: Like absolutely, in Texas, we definitely have that privilege of 977 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 7: we can basically survive just by being you know, big 978 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 7: in Texas. But we also have that standard of stars 979 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 7: that come from Texas. 980 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 6: We have Beyonce, we. 981 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 7: Have Aerykabaddu you got, Larry Graham, you got, the list 982 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 7: goes on and on and on. So we do have that, 983 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 7: but we also have these stars that want everything is 984 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 7: bigger in Texas. I think our aspiration and our drive 985 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 7: is also big as well. 986 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 5: I mean Beyonce the biggest in the game. 987 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 6: I mean right, yeah, absolutely. 988 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 5: When did you start to feel like you were really 989 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 5: making strides? 990 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 7: Probably when I call O gran Cy just cold call, like, 991 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 7: let me I got a slam, Let me call him, 992 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 7: but explain who he is? Oh yeah, O girn c 993 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 7: O Giron c are the chop stars Man, legendary DJ 994 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 7: Houston person And I'm not even gonna I'll say slash 995 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 7: person mentor DJ. I'm gonna shout out this. This YouTube 996 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 7: page called Rare Texts, this mixtapes. If you want to 997 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 7: go see Paul Wall, Mike Jones on the ground, passing 998 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 7: out DVDs and text to relays go check that out. 999 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 6: So I think just being able to. 1000 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 7: Call these people and call and aks for help, and 1001 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 7: being able to just talk to like the people who 1002 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 7: I'm a fan of, like a Don Toliver and so 1003 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 7: on and so forth, I think that's when I started 1004 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 7: realizing that I was probably moving and doing something. 1005 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:28,439 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1006 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 4: Ah, so I feel like twenty twenty, you know, during 1007 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 4: the pandemic is when you really start to make waves. 1008 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 4: He shot like eight videos in front of the garage. Yes, 1009 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 4: did the pandemic afford you that opportunity to create? 1010 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 6: No, so to jump back to one hundred drums. 1011 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 7: I shot that and then Trip was like come to 1012 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 7: LA and it's like that momentum was going, but I 1013 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 7: didn't have anything else to like follow it up with. 1014 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 5: MM. 1015 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 7: So when I went back when we shot those videos, 1016 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 7: I was about to go on the road. On the 1017 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 7: road trip, he offered me to like to just you know, 1018 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 7: I feel like when Trip. 1019 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 6: Brought me to LA. 1020 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 7: He didn't say what his intention was, but to me, 1021 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 7: how I took it was like I want you to 1022 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 7: see this up close. I want you to see this, 1023 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 7: this thing that you're chasing up close. That's my perspective. 1024 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 7: We still haven't talked about why, but I think I 1025 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 7: know why. He's a loving and caring person, so I 1026 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 7: think that just shows his heart. So I was like, 1027 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 7: I am about to go on the road and I 1028 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 7: want to shoot something so I'm able to post while 1029 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 7: I'm stilling the road and I won't lose that momentum 1030 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 7: being away from the garage, being away from my team. 1031 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 7: So I just shot those and again me speaking, I said, Yo, 1032 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 7: I'm gonna drop these videos and I'm gonna get so 1033 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 7: hot they're gonna have to pull me off the tour. 1034 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 7: And that's exactly what happened. 1035 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 6: That's exactly what. 1036 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 4: Happened, right, And people still want you to shoot videos 1037 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 4: in front of the garage. 1038 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 7: Still, they asked about it, and they think that like 1039 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 7: this is like a this is like me moving on 1040 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 7: and moving forward. Oh yeah, I also want to say hero, 1041 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 7: right Brad or I own that garage. Now at first 1042 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 7: we used to trust Pass, we used to trust Pass, 1043 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 7: but I own that garage. 1044 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 5: I haven't said thank you, but you wold shooting her 1045 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 5: for the community? 1046 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, absolutely not. 1047 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, because like I said, the money one hundred dollars 1048 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 7: by the time I edited the video and got it 1049 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 7: back to your money is gone. So a big part 1050 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 7: of why I was one hundred dollars was because I 1051 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 7: couldn'tford videos and I knew my other like other artists 1052 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 7: AROUNDMIC come there for video, so it's. 1053 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 6: Not a money thing with me. 1054 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 7: Yo, spend a little hundred dollars so I can get 1055 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 7: something to eat and put gas in my car and 1056 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 7: be able to go to the studio myself. I'm gonna 1057 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 7: edit that video and I'm gonna have it to you 1058 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 7: in the next day, just because I don't want to 1059 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 7: hold up your dreams. I didn't pay I used to 1060 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 7: pay like music videographers. I probably still ain't got a 1061 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 7: video now I want my video. I still ain't got 1062 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 7: my video yet, but I wanted to. I always felt 1063 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 7: I didn't want to hold up nobody's career, Like I 1064 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 7: knew we all chasing something. So let me shoot a 1065 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 7: video for you and go do your thing. You go 1066 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 7: to my YouTube page right now, I gotta playlist all 1067 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 7: of those and it's like twenty you had twenty videos, 1068 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 7: and I was like, I don't never remember having one 1069 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 7: thousand dollars. I don't loan two thousand dollars. So that's 1070 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 7: closed to show you doing all of that work. But 1071 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 7: the money, it wasn't for me to have money in 1072 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 7: my pocket. It was just to support its all. 1073 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 4: Was that you still keep the old stuff up on 1074 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 4: YouTube like you're not archiving them or taking them down. 1075 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 7: Like yeah, that's because even how I talk about interviews, 1076 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 7: and I could talk my interviews, I was in boment 1077 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 7: watching y'all talk to these artists and watching them get 1078 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 7: that game, watching those j Z those straight interviews, watching 1079 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 7: that and knowing that I couldn't search up how will 1080 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 7: TISO touch down? 1081 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 6: Blank blank blank, But there was. 1082 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 7: A lot of great interviews that were a lot of 1083 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 7: great journalism that I could go out and the study. 1084 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 7: So the reason I leave that up, the reason I 1085 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 7: do my interview so well is for that next person 1086 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 7: who's searching up how do I want to do? 1087 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 6: How what's my story going to be? 1088 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 7: So I want to show you that I say I 1089 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 7: believe in trial success, watch how I mess up? 1090 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 6: Learn from him? 1091 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: Right? 1092 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 4: Is that what tisos Suave did? How did we evolve 1093 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 4: from tvOS Suave into Save was just abhoor invitation in 1094 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 4: Rico Swave. I just had to grow up and let 1095 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 4: that go, and te Thow Touchdown came. You know, I 1096 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 4: was I was a band kid, you know, I played trombone. 1097 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 7: Okay, and my boy, my boy Sewn Lewis, who was 1098 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 7: a football player, we would always joke about, like, yo, 1099 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 7: band ain't a sport. Now we're talking about how bad 1100 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,399 Speaker 7: the football team is. But at the end of the year, 1101 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 7: at the end of the season, all of the football 1102 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 7: players were getting together their highlight tapes because they were 1103 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 7: all going to the They want to go to the 1104 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 7: next level. And here I am making a mixtapes and 1105 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 7: stuff because I want to go to the next level. 1106 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 6: So the reason my name is t Tho. 1107 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 7: Touchdown is because that that that similarity of like the 1108 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 7: athletes putting together these highlight tapes to go to the 1109 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 7: college and then go to the NFL to take care 1110 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 7: of their families. 1111 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 6: I feel like musicians we do the same thing. 1112 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 7: We put together these highlight tapes, like these albums in 1113 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 7: order to go to the next level. 1114 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 2: Be getting probably prior for your pen Like what thing 1115 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 2: draws me a lot of the records the album, it's 1116 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 2: that opening line that draws you in. Like we were 1117 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 2: talking about Spider Man this, so maybe you could have 1118 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 2: been a painter, like speak to that as the right 1119 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 2: like how important it is to kind of grab the 1120 00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 2: audience with that opening ball. 1121 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 7: I think this is my first album. I understand my championship. 1122 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 7: I understand like a few like similarities and repetitions that 1123 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 7: I have, but I haven't gotten down to the point 1124 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 7: of like, this is why you know what? No, I 1125 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 7: think I have a My first love is music, secondest film, 1126 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 7: thirdest journalism, and my fourthest comedy. So I think a 1127 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 7: lot of that comes from watching comedians and not looking 1128 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 7: past the joke, looking at the timing, looking at you know, 1129 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 7: looking at their timing, their writing. I just went to 1130 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 7: the comedy store for their first time so I can 1131 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 7: see it up close, and then I went again and seeing, oh, 1132 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 7: you're doing the same jokes, like they're working on their 1133 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 7: on their craft. So I think a lot of that 1134 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 7: wit comes from wanting to evoke one of the emotions, 1135 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 7: ether it be happy, sad, anger, or laughter. So I 1136 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 7: think right now I'm going to credit that to my 1137 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 7: love for my love for the comedy and timing. 1138 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 5: You said one girl was a comedian man, excuse. 1139 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's funny. It feel like I'm being a comedian. 1140 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 7: Yeah with the laugh track. Yeah, I love comedy. 1141 00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 5: Who's your favorite comedian? 1142 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 6: I don't really have one. I think I just love 1143 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 6: the arts. I haven't really found one. 1144 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 7: I think I'll probably find that as I go to 1145 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 7: more shows and see them in person. 1146 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, what song. 1147 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 2: Albums you are you most proud of? From a lyricism standpoint. 1148 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 6: I'll probably say I want I loved. 1149 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 7: Like I said, I created thousands, not thousands, but a 1150 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 7: lot of songs. 1151 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 6: I feel like already always say, yo, thousands. 1152 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 7: A lot of one on Yeah, a lot of songs. 1153 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 7: But I am proud of this is being like a 1154 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 7: complete body of work. But I want to say I 1155 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 7: think neighborhood, neighborhood, that's my favorite. 1156 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, neighborhood. And that was. 1157 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 7: That was just a just stream of consciousness, like just 1158 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 7: I I didn't understand when I when I. 1159 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,720 Speaker 6: Got the first verse done. 1160 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 7: I was like, Okay, here's an opportunity to talk about 1161 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 7: I guess perspective. I have this trend in my writing 1162 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 7: where sometimes the first verse is kind of like the 1163 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 7: second verse. 1164 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 6: But that's that was. 1165 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 7: I feel like that trend being graduated and just expounded upon. 1166 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 7: And I think a hard second after Neighborhood was going 1167 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 7: to be Impossible, the last song that I recorded for 1168 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 7: the album, and that's when the budgets running out. 1169 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 6: I don't know if I can afford my engineer anymore. 1170 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 7: Like something out to shake right now, And I think 1171 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 7: I want to give love to Andrew Keller, my engineer, 1172 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 7: who did a lot of like the vocal production and 1173 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 7: stuff on this. 1174 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 6: But like that's the last session. 1175 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 7: I was like, you know what, let's trip it down, 1176 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 7: none of that crazy, crazy stuff we've been doing for Impossible. 1177 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 7: I was like, let me just you know, talk to 1178 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 7: the perspective of the first person who told someone you 1179 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 7: can't do this. I kind of I wrote that song 1180 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 7: from the perspective of the first person to say, well, 1181 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 7: that person, but the person that told them they couldn't 1182 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 7: do it, and like and so on and so forth. This 1183 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 7: trend of just projecting that you can't do that to 1184 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 7: the next person. 1185 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 6: So those two I probably say, I love depending on that. 1186 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like, okay, cause it seems like it's a 1187 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,919 Speaker 4: middle finger to all those nays says. 1188 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 7: Probably probably uh huh, okay, I'm gonna do it anyway. Yeah, 1189 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 7: I think subliminity It definitely was that. And you know, 1190 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 7: I say this is my Icebreakers, so like even the 1191 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 7: first line on my debut album is someone stopped me 1192 00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 7: and said, hey, do have you seen this spider Man? 1193 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 7: Like yes, it gets as straightest level as that all 1194 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,280 Speaker 7: the way down to like a daddy mama drama. 1195 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 4: MM. 1196 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 7: So if you listen to if you haven't listened to 1197 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 7: it again with that perspective, I literally started reading Icebreaker 1198 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 7: for this album. 1199 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 4: Right, what's your dad think about all the success that 1200 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 4: you are experiencing right now? 1201 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 6: He loves it. He loves it. 1202 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 7: I remember, like right before, I remember the conversation you 1203 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 7: had with me once, say maybe twenty eighteen or twenty yeah, 1204 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 7: like into twenty eighteen when he came in and brought 1205 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 7: the chair in the room and said, yeah, your mama said, what. 1206 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:28,839 Speaker 6: Y'all was talking about? 1207 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 7: Your saying, you know when we just had that conversation 1208 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 7: with your parents, when you were able to process your childhood, 1209 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 7: you just wanna have that conversation with him. 1210 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 6: And he came like, your mama said, well tell me 1211 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 6: what you was saying. You put the chair down. 1212 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 7: You was like, but you need to find out what 1213 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 7: you're gonna do, cause usually if it don't happen for 1214 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 7: people around this time, it usually doesn't happen mm. 1215 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,399 Speaker 6: And a few months later for him to. 1216 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,280 Speaker 7: Come home from work, I'm like, yo, Daddy, I about 1217 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 7: to dip child be read about to reing me to 1218 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 7: uh l to la. I just remember him sit down saying, man, 1219 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 7: it's it's all happened so fast, but I wanna go 1220 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 7: back a few a few weeks before that, when I 1221 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 7: told him, like, yo, Dad, I really don't want to 1222 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 7: work at a gas station anymore. I really want to 1223 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 7: put all into my music. And he told me, like, yo, 1224 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 7: the reason I'm doing all of this because I notice 1225 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 7: what you want to do. And Barry Movie s he 1226 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 7: had this map of Boma in Texas and I didn't 1227 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 7: know what it was. It was just a big scroll 1228 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 7: and he got it and he like hold his in 1229 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 7: of it and he held it and then he dropped 1230 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 7: it out was a map of Boma and he said, 1231 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 7: you gonna put both money on the map. 1232 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,240 Speaker 5: Wow. 1233 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, So I wanna when I talk about Daddy Mama drama, 1234 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 7: and I want to show the whole spectrum of your 1235 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 7: parents as you're going through this, and your family and 1236 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,919 Speaker 7: your friends accepting this to always say what we're doing 1237 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 7: is achievable, but sometimes it can be unbelievable. Whatever we 1238 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 7: are here, So don't be jaded, don't take it a 1239 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 7: personal that people don't see it. As long as you 1240 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 7: see it, that's all that matters. 1241 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 2: You also touch on relationships and women and what do 1242 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 2: you think the feedback has been from that side of 1243 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 2: things in terms of making that type of content. 1244 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 7: From the the women who talked to me about the album, 1245 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 7: they they love the R and B. 1246 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 6: They they just love it. So I think that's just me. 1247 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 6: I think that's tea. 1248 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 5: But is this some vulnerability in it or is it? 1249 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 5: Is it just more save to you? Oh? 1250 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 6: No, definitely vulnerability. 1251 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 7: I think I gotta go back to giving Drake the 1252 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 7: credit of making that cool and acceptable to be that. 1253 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 6: Like I remember, like I. 1254 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 7: Said, when those girls showed me Drake, like I was 1255 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 7: immediate in the studio, doing my horrible impersonation of the 1256 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 7: behindest vulnerable, putting voice memodes. 1257 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 6: From my dad and my boy like, doing all of that, 1258 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 6: you know. 1259 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 7: But I think just you know, with his offering to 1260 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 7: the game, you know, there's many students who just took 1261 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 7: that and expounded upon it. So I think that's what 1262 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 7: That's definitely where it comes from, for sure. 1263 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 4: And there was a girl that was real significant in 1264 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 4: your life that passed away. 1265 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 6: Absolutely. 1266 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, I was gonna say how important was heard? Yeah, 1267 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 7: you know, very important, very important. I want to give 1268 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 7: a give love, give love to the family. 1269 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 6: You know, I don't want to. 1270 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 7: I've not been saying the name just you know, I 1271 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 7: don't about absolutely to the family. And that was the 1272 00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 7: person she really when I was out of prayer view 1273 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 7: just still DJing off my phone and. 1274 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 6: Like she but she took that seriously. 1275 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 7: She would go with the people like y'all, I know, 1276 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 7: you'll got a party like ts don't need to be 1277 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 7: like the DJ like y'all need to have T was 1278 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 7: like I'm telling y'all tso, And she would be that socialite. 1279 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 7: And I give a credit to a lot of while 1280 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 7: I work the room the way I do because of her. 1281 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 7: So she I think she was the one who was 1282 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 7: like who kept telling me, like, yo, you need to 1283 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 7: really really do this. But I was just being a 1284 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 7: college student, you know, just turning up. But I give 1285 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 7: a lot of credit to what you see today, to 1286 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 7: that family and to her absolutely. 1287 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 5: Because you should, like once one hand of this and 1288 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 5: like you keep to yourself. 1289 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 2: And then you had a line there about new they 1290 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 2: talking about why are we talking in the club. 1291 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 5: It's music's too loud in the club. 1292 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, I think definitely probably I gotta get 1293 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 7: credit to y'all's podcast with with Taler the credit when 1294 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 7: he's talking about like just the performative aspect of that. 1295 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 6: And then ever since then, I was like, wow, I 1296 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,879 Speaker 6: see that. I see that a lot. 1297 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 7: And I went to a party once and I had 1298 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,040 Speaker 7: a studio session the next day and me trying, I 1299 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 7: want to talk in the club when it's smoking that fog. 1300 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 6: Really, you know, damn it is my vocals. 1301 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 7: So I was like, Yo, it's no need to even 1302 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 7: have this conversation or when we're out somewhere, like hey, 1303 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 7: do you want to meet such and such. I'm all 1304 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 7: about me and you in a very intimate setting. It's 1305 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 7: like it's no disrespect, but it's just like, this isn't 1306 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 7: the place. I'm not trying to do the hand on 1307 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 7: the shoulder yelling at you're tell me how much I 1308 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 7: appreciate you. I would trying to do it in a 1309 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 7: very intimate sesson So you can understand that I mean 1310 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 7: what I say, and I really appreciate you. So yeah, 1311 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,360 Speaker 7: new name was just I feel like it's definitely inspired 1312 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 7: by that, So thank you all for that. 1313 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, of course. But I mean that's the thing. 1314 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 2: It's like if you have it, like you come in 1315 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 2: with a unique look, people are drawing to you right, 1316 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 2: absolutely capture. So like child sweeps about that a lot, 1317 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 2: like how are you dealing with like now all this 1318 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 2: newfound extra attention to everything you're doing. 1319 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 7: I move with my big three hospitality, professionalism, and I 1320 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 7: care and I love what I do. So when I 1321 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 7: step out of my hotel room or my wherever I 1322 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 7: step out, I'm t tho touchdown, and the first thing 1323 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 7: is hospitality and professionalism. So feel free to that new 1324 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 7: name thing that's only for the club anyway. 1325 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,320 Speaker 1: Else why I can hear you. 1326 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 7: And I can look at your eyes feel free, like 1327 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 7: I remember when it was zero people interested in this. 1328 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 7: I'm gonna always have time to talk to you, like 1329 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 7: I'm here. I always say I want to be the 1330 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 7: biggest start in the world, but I I I said, like, 1331 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 7: I want you to be able to close your eyes 1332 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 7: and think of like your friends who you told everything 1333 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,439 Speaker 7: to you know where the body is a head. Y'all 1334 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 7: have memories and stuff. He just happened to be the 1335 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 7: biggest start in the world that you could still call 1336 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 7: it the text. So I want I want you to 1337 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 7: come up and talk to me. This is why I 1338 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 7: do it for it right, But as you would send 1339 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 7: you know your stars rising? Are you having a hard 1340 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 7: time saying you know? 1341 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 4: I'm sure people are knocking down your door wanting to 1342 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,399 Speaker 4: collaborate features things like that. 1343 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,319 Speaker 7: I think I'm just having a hard time. I'm not 1344 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,359 Speaker 7: saying yes so fast cause I hate letting people down. 1345 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 7: So I'm always like, yeah, let's do it. But it's 1346 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 7: like I just have to instead of giving them a 1347 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 7: yes or no, just like you give me a second 1348 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 7: so I could check on my team and make sure 1349 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 7: that my schedule even allows it, because I would hate 1350 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 7: to let you down. 1351 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 5: M that's a good one. I'm about to use that. 1352 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 6: I would hate give me a second. 1353 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, what made you close the obum out with? The 1354 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 2: original's better? And what's kind of the message find it for. 1355 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 6: The original was better? 1356 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 7: I think that goes back to my t that's all 1357 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 7: of my loves, you know, the love of film and comedy, 1358 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 7: and you know when you were here like, oh they're 1359 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 7: doing another remake. Oh, Like it's just the idea of nostalgia. 1360 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,359 Speaker 7: And you know what we usually when nostalgia the reagion 1361 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 7: we love these albums, are these movies is because it's 1362 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 7: connected to a memory. That's why when I dropped my album, 1363 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 7: I was like, I want for your first listen, put 1364 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 7: on some pajamas, wind down, and really take on this experience. 1365 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 7: Because when you attach your memory to the music or 1366 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 7: the art, it's gonna be with you forever. So I 1367 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 7: think the original was better with just like a conversation 1368 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 7: about nostalgia. It's a it's a sonic punchline as well, 1369 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 7: you know, being there with uh with Dylan for a 1370 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 7: hundred from a hundred x R y two K, being 1371 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 7: in there just joking, like having it the song start 1372 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 7: off like this, doing this idiom remix in the middle 1373 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 7: of the song and then going back to the original. 1374 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 7: So that's and not only is it a lyrical punchline, 1375 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 7: it's also a sonic punchline. 1376 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 2: Can go back and listen to it, m Well, I 1377 00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 2: wanna go back listen to this man as one of us, 1378 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, wack out with it man, But nah, 1379 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 2: thank you know the creativity man. 1380 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 5: You know, definitely thank you. As people are saying, you know, 1381 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 5: we definitely need that. 1382 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 2: You know, people say everything sounds the same, but just 1383 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 2: to have you come with the right energy and like 1384 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 2: take your time with this and have this body of work. 1385 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 5: That really represents you. It's definitely a standout of the year. 1386 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 5: Thank you. 1387 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 7: I think that comes from me just being a fan first, 1388 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,399 Speaker 7: and I'll look at it like what would I want 1389 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 7: to see from my favorite artist, and I just do that. 1390 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 7: That's that's all you see right now, just me being a. 1391 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,800 Speaker 5: Fan first, true student of the game. 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