1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: That's the problem with the Republican Party is that they 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: are suffused with lies. I don't know why this network 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: is paying Scott to commit to say. 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: What if Scott is our colleague and we're going to 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: treat him respectfully as such. 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 3: This is a perfect encapsulation of the state of American journalism. 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 3: American people don't like it, they can't stand it. The 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: formula is old, it's stale, and it's collapsing. But don't 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: underestimate its capacity to misinform and do damage. Each person 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: has an obligation to understand what is happening around them 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: in the community, in the state, and their county in 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: the country, and that includes being able to watch a 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 3: news program and figure out who is bullshitting you and 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: who is not. It is June third, one and fifty 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: five days remain out there on the horizon. There is 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: a fight going on. 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 4: It. 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: It is a battle between the truth and the lie, 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: and it is very important to understand that a democracy 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: cannot survive when the citizen cannot distinguish between the two. 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: This weekend, Donald Trump appeared on Fox and Friends. It 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 3: was an absurd spectacle. Over and over and over again. 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: Donald Trump talked about they, they, they, they and them, 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: the thems and the days all conspiring together since who 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: knows when to bring him down. What he said over 26 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: and over again in the interview is that anybody who 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: opposes him is sick. They're evil. He talked about retribution elliptically. 28 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: He denied the revenge he's called for openly, and all 29 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: the while three slack jawed imbeciles stared at him. Story eyed, 30 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: it's incredible to watch. 31 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: You, famously said, regarding Hillary Clinton, lock her up. You 32 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: declined to do that as president. 33 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 4: I beat her. It's easier when you win. And they 34 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 4: all said luck of it, and I felt and I 35 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: could have done it, but I felt it would have 36 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 4: been a terrible thing. And then this happened to me, 37 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 4: and so I may feel differently about it. I can't 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: tell you. I'm not sure I can answer the question. 39 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: When it was all over the real world, alumni sitting 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: in the middle says, Wow, isn't he honest? Let's watch 41 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: the incredibleness. 42 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: Directly when I'm rewatching it from having been there yesterday. 43 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 4: He's just so honest. 44 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 5: I think that is his strength. 45 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 4: He's just kind of telling you what he thinks. He 46 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 4: speaks from the heart. 47 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 3: There's never a question that hones in specifically on anything. 48 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: It's all blather, it's all nonsense, and it's incredibly dangerous. 49 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 4: It's like they took me to trial. There's no crime. 50 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: They were trying to devise the crime during the trial. 51 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 4: That's how bad it was. 52 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: In the end. Across America, many people were convicted of 53 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: felonies last week, some plog guilty to felonies, some were acquitted. 54 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: It's the way the process works, and yet another pillar 55 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 3: of American life is under assault. Let's take a look 56 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 3: at CNN, where there was an extraordinary confrontation between George 57 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: Conway and MAGA CNN pundit Scott Jennings. At first, post 58 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: Casey Hunt stoked the confrontation, but then when George Conway 59 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: raised the central question, why is a global news organization 60 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: paying somebody to muddle the truth and confuse their audience 61 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: in the name of balance, Casey Hunt intervened and she said. 62 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: This, God if Scott is our colleague and we're going 63 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: to treat him respectfully as such, continued. 64 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: What's important to understand about that clip is that everything 65 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: else that of a about to show you at a 66 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: fundamental level doesn't really matter. All that does is that 67 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: outcome that declaration. Think about it like a boundary, a circle. 68 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: Maybe there are people that are inside the circle and 69 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 3: there are people that are outside the circle. In the 70 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: center of the circle, the ring master literally is Casey Hunt, 71 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: who is addressing a camera and through the lens an audience. 72 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: This is so important to understand. There is a hierarchy. 73 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 3: The people inside the circle are colleagues, and the people 74 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: outside the circle are the audience. And a colleague must 75 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 3: never be confronted when they're purposely and deliberately lying or 76 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 3: not to the audience, because colleagues outrank the American public, 77 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: the American citizen, the global citizen, and the truth. What 78 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 3: is it that Scott Jennings is paid to do. Let's 79 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: watch what drove George Conway completely crazy. 80 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 5: He's talking about these obvious crimes that were committed. That 81 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 5: I mean, he's talking about the obvious crimes that were 82 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 5: supposedly committed. But that's the core of what a lot 83 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 5: of decidedly non MAGA Republicans are mad about is that 84 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 5: there is no underlying crime. I looked at the statement 85 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 5: from Maine Senator Susan Collins, who I think encapsulated it perfectly. 86 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 5: She said, this was a partisan prosecutor who promised to 87 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 5: get Trump. And that's what he did. Not promised to 88 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 5: go after the law, but he promised, Feral promised to 89 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 5: go after Donald Trump. And so the issue is here, 90 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 5: what is the crime? 91 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: The first thing you'll notice is Scott Jennings denies that 92 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: Donald Trump was even convicted. Whether you think the case 93 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 3: should have been bought or not, the fact remains the 94 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 3: case was brought, he was indicted by a grand jury 95 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: in Manhattan, and a jury of twelve individuals under oath 96 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: convicted him. He now has an appellate process to go through. 97 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 3: But the event happened. Scott Jennings is an interpreter of sort. 98 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: He's not rantid and wretched in the same manner that 99 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: Corey Lowandowski was or any of the other paid liars 100 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: from CNN during the Zucker era. Scott Jennings is a 101 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 3: veteran of the Bush White House and of Miss McConnell's 102 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 3: Senate Majority Leader office. But what Scott Jennings has become 103 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: over nine years time is a spokesperson for the MAGA 104 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 3: extremist cause. He seeks to reconcile the connection point to 105 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: a fascist extremist movement and the old Republican Party that 106 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: it has completely consumed and subsumed. What Scott Jennings's main 107 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: job is is to interpret with Donald Trump and his 108 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 3: top mag lieutenant say by telling the audience they don't 109 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: mean the words that they clearly just spoke that have 110 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: specific meaning. Scott Jenning's job is to say that red 111 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 3: is blue, and blue is yellow and yellow is green. 112 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: Scott Jenning's job is to say up is down and 113 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: down is up, that anything and nothing can be everything. 114 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: Scott Jennings's job is to confuse the truth and the 115 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: plain meaning of plain statements in the name of balance. 116 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: His job is to argue that it's the rhetoric that's different, 117 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: not the meaning, not the intent, that it's just a 118 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: little bit hotter and a little bit more heated. But 119 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: things are just the way they always have been. When 120 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: the Republicans and Democrats get together in the room, everybody 121 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: is friends. After five o'clock, everybody is friends in the 122 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: green room. But is that what is happening in America 123 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: at this hour? The news which George Conway spoke to 124 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: the guilty verdict wasn't the headline by the time this 125 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: group convened. Listen to what George Conway said, Scott, I 126 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: have to say. 127 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I mean, you know, Scott's lying. And 128 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: that's the problem with the Republican Party. It is continually 129 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: addicted to lies. You're lying. You're lying, Scott, You're lying 130 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: about the law. You're lying about what the jury was 131 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: charged to find. They don't have to find it underlying crime. 132 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: They had to find the intent to cover up and 133 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: underlying crime. And the underlying crime was pretty obvious. What 134 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: was you ran for public office? Scott? You you ran 135 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: for public office, Scott. You know you can't take money 136 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: from somebody and reimburse them for as a you know, 137 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: if it's a campaign. 138 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: Damn well Okay, fine. 139 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: Well you you're close enough, you're involved in politics to 140 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: know that. 141 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: Okay. 142 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: So that's the problem with the Republican Party is that 143 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: they are suffused with lies. I don't know why this 144 00:08:50,679 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: network is paying Scott to commit Okay. 145 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: Scott is our polleag again, going to treat him respectfully 146 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: as such, continue. 147 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: The progression of this conversation. George Conway's accurate and precise 148 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: legal description Scott jennings garranty based on the fact and 149 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: part that he is not a lawyer and has no 150 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: idea what he's talking about. George Conway's harsh and theatrical 151 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: rebuke Casey Hunt's intervention all the way up to the 152 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: dramatic moment, speaks perfectly to the crisis in American media. 153 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: Why the American people can't figure out what's happening? Is 154 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: the danger reel or does it pretend? Is it a 155 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: reality show? Is it make believe? Scott Jennings is there 156 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: to tell you everything is as it ever was? Is 157 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: that true? It's not. This is an urgent moment. Something 158 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: terrible happened, and it wasn't Trump's conviction. That was an 159 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: ordinary thing in an extraordinary situation. Donald Trump, in the end, 160 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: is citizen Trump, not President Trump. Though we bestow out 161 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: of courtesy and respect the honorific for a lifetime, the 162 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: power is fleeting. Many citizens were convicted of felonies last week. 163 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 3: Many pled guilty to felonies. Many prisoners were discharged from 164 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: penitentiaries who had served time for felonies. Nothing unusual happened. 165 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: Some of last week's convictions across the country will be 166 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: overturned on appeal. Maybe Donald Trump's will be one of them. 167 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 3: What happened last week was completely and utterly ordinary, except 168 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 3: for that it happened to a former president of the 169 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: United States, which makes it an exceptional individual situation, not 170 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: an exceptional circumstance in its details. In its specifics, what 171 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 3: was extraordinary was the explosion of threats to violence, to kahos, 172 00:10:54,720 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 3: to murder, to mayhem that spewed like poison across the Internet, 173 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: across TikTok, across Twitter, from senators, from congressmen, from party officials. 174 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 3: The threats piled up dozens, turned into hundreds, into thousands, 175 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 3: into tens of thousands, of calls from mayhem and the 176 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 3: destruction of America's civilization and our institutions. Because Donald Trump alleges, 177 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: without any fact, without any evidence, a conspiracy of days 178 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: and THEMS plotting to get him. Since when Marco Rubia, 179 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: When did the conspiracy begin? How long has his prospective 180 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: jurypool been in on it? When were they first selected 181 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: ten years ago, twenty years ago? Were they selected in 182 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: grade school to bring Donald Trump down? When he inevitably 183 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: finished the apprentice and became president, lost the election, started 184 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 3: the insurrection, and then came back. It is all madness. 185 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: And what we know for certain is that it is 186 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: indulged not at a journalism level, but at a management 187 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: level at CNN, and that's very unfortunate because there should 188 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: be consequences for untruthfulness, for obfuscations, dissembling. The constancy of 189 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 3: it has eroded the ability of most people to have 190 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: an appreciation for what it's happening. Everything isn't down the middle, 191 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: it's not split evenly. Both sides are not calling for violence. 192 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: One is not calling for the overthrow of the election process, 193 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: the jury system, the judicial system. One does not have 194 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: two Supreme Court justices with seditionists and insurrectionist flags flying 195 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: over their homes associated with it. This is a perfect 196 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 3: encapsulation of the state of American journalism. The American people 197 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: don't like it, they can't stand it. Formula is old, 198 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: it's stale, and it's collapsing, But don't underestimate its capacity 199 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: to misinform and do damage. Each person has an obligation 200 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: to understand what is happening around them in the community, 201 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: in the state, and their county in the country, and 202 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 3: that includes being able to watch a news program and 203 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: figure out who is bullshitting you, and who is not. 204 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: Where the news starts and where it ends, where the 205 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: show business starts and where that ends. A lot of 206 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: these panels are kabuki. This moment doesn't require more kabuki. 207 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: It requires deep understanding about complex issues. A nation of 208 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: three hundred and thirty million people being run by Lauren 209 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 3: Boberts and Matt Gates's and Marjorie Taylor Green's is headed 210 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: to catastrophe. The news media is supposed to be in 211 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: the business of clearly presenting that danger. In the case 212 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 3: of Fox, they stoke it and instigate it. But in 213 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: the case of CNN, so long as it doesn't touch 214 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: on a colleague's ability to lie and confuse, everything is 215 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 3: a okay, it's not. And that is today's warning. I'm 216 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: Steve Schmidt. This is the warning, and I invite you 217 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 3: to join. 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