1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: What's critical my race theories? UM, well, all right, that's 2 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: not a great introduction, but it's not a great time 3 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: in America. I'm Robert Evans. This is it could happen 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: here with me tonight as often but not always is 5 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: is Garrison Davis UH and our good friend Christopher Wong. Uh. 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: We're here to talk about, um a bunch of stuff. Largely, 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about the increasing and escalating attacks on school 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: boards and attempts to take over and dominate school boards 9 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: by far right activists. And a lot of this is 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: centered around critical race theory, a lot of it centered 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: around vaccine mandates. It all kind of blends together like 12 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: a good gumbo um or like fascist syncretism UM. One 13 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: of the things I would say that's that's kind of 14 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: most relevant right now as we're recording this. I don't 15 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: think the race has been officially called, but it's become 16 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: an increasingly obvious that Uh, Terry mccaulliffe has lost his 17 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: re election bid and the new governor of Virginia will 18 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: be a Republican who, among other things, as like promised 19 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 1: and based a huge amount of his campaign on banning 20 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: critical race theory and specifically like banning books and ship 21 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: from being taught in Virginia schools UM. And this is 22 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: all the result of a pretty far reaching UM and 23 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: and complex and honestly pretty pretty scary campaign. And we're 24 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: gonna talk about that tonight, Garrison. Do you wanna do 25 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: you wanna take it from here? Yeah? Yeah, I'll do 26 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: a little bit then we can move over to telegram. 27 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, you like the getty lee of this. So 28 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: so this is your drum solo time. Yeah, we we 29 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: decided we needed to do an episode on this, Sinnon 30 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: And later when a few weeks ago, a large number 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: of of of of anti vacts and anti mask protesters 32 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: UM took over a school board meeting in uh Portland. 33 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: And the reason why that is special in and of 34 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: itself because this has been happening across the country for 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: a long time. But that but the fact that they 36 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: were able to overwhelm and shut down an entire school 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: board meeting with hundreds of people like invading this building, 38 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: UM and shutting this down with just the shurement of 39 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: like power that the people had there was it was 40 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: It's notable because it's like it's it's a liberal ish city, right, 41 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: It's that's generally how people view it as. And you know, 42 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: we're used to this happening, you know, more like southern 43 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: states and states that are more like overwhelmingly conservative. But 44 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: when like a Portland school board meeting get shut down, 45 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: people were like, oh wow, this is like extra important 46 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: because this is showing that it's not this isn't isolated 47 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: to like quote unquote red states, right, this can this 48 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: can spread out everywhere now, you know. With Portland it 49 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: was it was a mix of like hippie types who 50 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: are like anti vax, but there was a good deal 51 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: of like actual proud boys there as well. Yes, and 52 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: it was partly organized through an organization run by the 53 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: Bundies UM, and there were some direct ties and they 54 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: helped to advertise it. So it's there's a lot of UM. 55 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 1: I mean, one of the things that was so unsettling 56 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: is that a lot of these people were not Portland's residents, 57 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: but they were showing up and we're able to effectively 58 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: like take over and dominate a Portland's school board meeting. 59 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: UM in part because law enforcement is never ever willing 60 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: to do anything against there's there's a there's a lot 61 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: of a lot of points here so like, yeah, one 62 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: of it being is like these like these big mobs 63 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: are definitely able to benefit from being you know, white, 64 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: mostly middle class like parents and stuff, or maybe not 65 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: maybe not not even parents. They're gonna be a white 66 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: middle class um, which means they can like storm buildings 67 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: and shut stuff down without any real consequence because police 68 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: aren't police and security aren't really going to get involved 69 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: that much, and the like the libs are not gonna 70 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: like really be pushing back on this in any kind 71 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: of make fun of these people if they misspell something 72 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: on a sign. Yeah. So, like basically the idea for 73 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: this episode as we want to talk about why and 74 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: how school boards have become kind of the new front 75 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: lines for pushing far right stuff into the culturals like guist, 76 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: because they've really become the new, the new, the new 77 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: like space that people on the right are able to 78 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: push things that are that are more that are more extreme, 79 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: and push things that are gonna you know, hurt you know, 80 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: kids mostly m hmm. So looking for this, we put 81 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: together a decent amount of stuff from organizing chats for 82 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: how basically the right is talking about these things and 83 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: how they're trying to organize it. UM. And one really 84 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: interesting kind of thing of not which will come up 85 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: later in the telegram stuff, is that in I think 86 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: it was when was it it was late September, UM, 87 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: the National school Boards Associations like that the National school 88 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: Board Union UM put in a request for federal assistance 89 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: to stop um ongoing threats and acts of violence against 90 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: UH school boards like meeting members and people president at 91 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: school boards because this has been ramping up. You know 92 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: this that this was happening the last last school season 93 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: as well, but really the past few months, the the 94 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: prevalence and the number of these types of like mobs 95 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: based overtaking these school boards has become so much more 96 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: common UM that the school Board Union put in like 97 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: sent like a letter directly to the president saying, hey, 98 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: we kind of need help here. UM. So it's it's 99 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: not just it's this is this is a problem that's 100 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: recognized widely even among people like on school boards, because yeah, 101 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: they're getting like harassed, they're getting death threats. UM. This 102 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: is becoming like unsafe to hold school board meetings. UM. 103 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: And whether or not you like our modern school system 104 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: or not, the resulting effect of this is that it's 105 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: gonna be hurting like kids, like like, it's a good 106 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: whether it be through like COVID, whether it be through 107 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: teaching them racist like curriculums, or whether it be to 108 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: you know, making trans kids make their lives a whole 109 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: lot harder. Right, all of this kind of stuff is 110 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 1: gonna be worse by this happening. So it is something 111 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: definitely worth caring about. Yeah, it's worth caring about. All 112 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: It's clearly an attempt in order to to to arrest 113 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: the kind of progressive tilt that that society has gone through. 114 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: All of this is a reaction both too. I mean, 115 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: the religious right was initially, more than anything, a reaction 116 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: to desegregation and the women's liberation movement UM. And what 117 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: we're seeing now is a reaction to primarily the gains 118 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: that LGBT people have made in the last like twenty years, 119 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: including the legalization of gay marriage UM. And so the 120 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: ultimate goal of all of this is to stop progress 121 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: towards racial justice, to roll back gay rights, UM, to 122 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: enshrine white supremacy using violence. And that's why, I that's 123 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: why all of these different school board meanings, like the 124 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: threat of violence from these people is a constant factor. UM. 125 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: There's regular discussion of it. There's like, I mean, that's 126 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: why the Proud Boys are showing up. Is to be 127 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: a of like is to be a death squad, um, 128 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, a little precursor death squad. They're not quite 129 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: willing to start start pulling triggers yet, but they want 130 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: people to know that it's possible. They want to scare 131 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: people away from getting involved in local politics unless they 132 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: adhere to a very specific far right political ideas. It's 133 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: working because a lot of these school boards are getting 134 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: these school meanings are just getting shut down, like they 135 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: just can't have them in person or sometimes not at 136 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: all because they'll just they'll like zoom bam. Like it's 137 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: not like they're just shutting down so they cannot take 138 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: place or at school by members are afraid to go 139 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: out in public because these people are are going to 140 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: hurt them. Um. And this is like a lot of 141 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: people involved in this are maybe not themselves like Proud 142 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: Boys like they they're they're they're they're not super like 143 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: their individual lee are more kind of regular Republicans in 144 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: these states. But the reason why it gets so extreme 145 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: and accelerate so quickly is mostly because of how these 146 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: organizing efforts take place, and also because of stuff like 147 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: Fox News and News Marx and on it and O 148 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: A N like pushing people further right in the past 149 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: few years, but like specifically the method of organizing on 150 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: apps like Telegram and Facebook groups. This this is, this 151 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: is the thing common on the Internet, but like it 152 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: rewards accelerationism, it rewards the most extreme, takes those the 153 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: ones to get shared the most. So even if you 154 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: know this is just some mom and her forties who's 155 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: not a proud boy by any means, she's she still 156 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: poses a threat in this in this way because she's 157 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: who boosting this same rhetoric and as part of these 158 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: same organizing channels that are full of like actual fascists. Uh, 159 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: there's a decent amount of very popular posts from very 160 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: popular channels I pulled that talks about the Jews in 161 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: the school boards and we we'll get to that kind 162 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: of stuff shortly. Um So there, Robert, do you wanna 163 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: start on the telegram with the whole the whole school 164 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: board Telegram channel that is popped up by no means 165 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: the most popular Telegram channel for organizing, but it is 166 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: specifically dedicated to school boards because of how Telegram works. 167 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: This channel gets shared around a lot in other much 168 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: bigger channels. Yeah, and and just so you know, So 169 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: the way Telegram works, if you're a decent person, um 170 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: and you don't live in a country where Telegram is 171 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: a legitimately good choice for you, there's some areas where 172 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: it's perfectly normal social media network, but for the most 173 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: part in the United States it's used by fascists and 174 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: weirdos um. So if you're fortunate enough to not use Telegram, 175 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: the way it works is you have open groups and 176 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: closed groups. Open groups are anyone can view them, Uh, 177 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: you don't expose yourself by looking at them, and people 178 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: largely just kind of post images, memes, videos and then 179 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: can comment on them. And a lot of what's posted 180 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: in any given Telegram channel is shared from another Telegram channel. 181 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: So for people like Garrison and I who research extremism, 182 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: one of the uses of telegram is that by looking 183 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: at what's being shared in one group from other groups, 184 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: you can actually start to build networks and see, oh, 185 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: there's affinity between these two groups. Because this group may 186 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: claim that they're just concerned conservatives, but they're sharing all 187 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: of this, all of this content from this far right 188 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: you know Pepe group that's also sharing a lot of 189 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 1: neo Nazi content, and you can see there's a lot 190 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: of affinity between the other thing that happens is that 191 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: these channels that are getting big and being you and 192 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: you are being used for this kind of like right 193 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: wing organizing who present themselves as more just like regular 194 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: conservative channels. If you I've been in this channel for 195 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: like years at this point, and this channel used to 196 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: be a like proud Boy channel. They just change their name. 197 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: Like It's like that happens all the time, where a 198 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: lot of the big organizing channels used to be like 199 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: openly violent organizing, like for different mobs to go beat 200 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: up people, and now they've rebranded to make them appeal 201 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: more to like regular Trump voters. That is the other 202 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: thing that happens all the time. And one of the 203 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: main channels that we're talking about today is one of 204 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: these one of these channels that used to be a 205 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: proud Boy thing and is now just kind of right 206 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: wing organizing a general Yeah, and it's um, I don't know, 207 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get into it. So actually you know 208 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: what I'm going to get into before I start talking 209 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: about fascists on telegram trying to destroy the concept of democracy. 210 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: You know what else is trying to destroy the concept 211 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: of democracy? That's right, Chris, products and services, that's right. 212 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, we are just having a great time here. 213 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: So let's talk about Stand for Students, which is a 214 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: telegram channel that Garrison pointed out to me, and I 215 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: spent more time than I really wanted to. Yeah, that's never, never, 216 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: never a good idea. So the stuff in here, this 217 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: is no umber one on the surface, a much more 218 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: moderate group. These people are not ranting about like Jews 219 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: destroying civilization or the need to like execute uh black 220 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: people or something like that. Um, the stuff in here 221 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: runs the gamut from like one of the first things 222 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: I found was a clip from Jesse Ventura, wrestler, predator 223 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: star and former governor once had a conspiracy TV show. 224 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: There's a popular clip in anti vaccine circles from it 225 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: where he's talking with Alex Jones about the Builderberg group 226 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: and stuff. So I found that in there, which is 227 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: like pretty garden variety, like early two thousands conspiracy nonsense. 228 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: Definitely like, oh yeah, these are like older people, like 229 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't think mostly boomers, but definitely like gen X 230 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: and stuff, like folks who were in like their forties 231 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: and fifties. Um, this is the kind of ship that 232 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: they would have been like exposed to in their late 233 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: twenties and whatnot. Um. One of the posters I found 234 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: commenting on that video said quote aired onto TV into 235 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: this and nine about a plan for depopulation through a 236 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: virus and injections. Too much of a coincidence, and another 237 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: responded to this. I was never a huge Alex Jones fan, 238 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: but he was right all along. My kids were born 239 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: in the early eighties and I refused their vaxes way 240 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: back then. Unfortunately, one of them is now a late 241 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: thirties CNN jabbed zombie and has infected my grandkids with 242 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: this inspiric experimental treatment. I'm done, um, which is silly, 243 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: but it also keys you and like these are it's 244 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: it's what you see a lot with Q and on right. 245 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: It's these folks who are getting brought in onto telegram. Yeah, 246 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: it's great. It's terrible that this person, this lady who 247 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: has to be what in her fifties sixties my parents age, 248 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: the boomer um is on telegram which two years ago 249 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: even was the only Americans you were fine, We're fine, 250 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: were like extremely online Nazi weirdos. Um. Yeah, I remember 251 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: doing like old trainings like yeah, it was over over 252 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: two years ago, and telegram was nowhere near the prevalent 253 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: for like regular organizing now. And this is a result 254 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: of of the d platforming of folks in the wake 255 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: of the capital attack. But anyway, we don't need to 256 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: get too much into that right now, So I want 257 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit more about some of the 258 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: things folks are sharing in this in this channel, which 259 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: is again kind of like I'm gonna guess everyone here 260 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: is kind of late thirties to maybe sixties, fifties, sixties. 261 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: There's one local story that it was actually very popular 262 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: among a lot of like lefty folks on Twitter of 263 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: this like group of dads who showed up to stop 264 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: there's like an epidemic of fighting in their school or something, 265 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: and they showed up to do like a community policing 266 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: or a community self defense sort of thing. It was 267 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: celebrated by a lot of folks because it was like, oh, hey, 268 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: this is you know, a way that communities can protect 269 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: themselves without cops. YadA, YadA, YadA. Which is a nice 270 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: thing to see. It was also celebrated um by these people, um, 271 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: by by people in this channel, and specifically the clip 272 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: of the news story covering this I found was from 273 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: the Pepe Lives Matter channel, which is, um, you know, 274 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: an alt right channel like it. Again, as we were 275 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: talking about earlier, the Pepe Lives isn't all like the 276 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: way full Nazi pilled stuff, um, but it shares a 277 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: lot of stuff from the channels that are straight up Nazis, 278 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: And so you can you can see already this like 279 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: lady in her sixties who's probably with some pretty normal 280 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: boomer three years ago, is now two steps away from 281 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: Adam often type motherfucker's that's just the way telegram works, um, 282 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: And they're all kind of bonding. Over again, this is 283 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: not a bad story what these local dads did, but 284 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: it very much ties into this idea of like we 285 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: gotta get all these parents together and take action in 286 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: the real world, like and that's gonna that's gonna go 287 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: towards taking action against the people you don't want showing 288 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: up in your school, meaning like black children and like children. Yes, yes, 289 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: that's yeah, yeah, yeah. Community self defense is great, but 290 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: also It really depends on what community is defending itself 291 00:15:55,640 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: from what. UM. So that's all probably have to talk 292 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: about that more at some point in the future. But yeah, 293 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: another thing I found on that channel was video this. 294 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: This I dug into a bit. So there was this 295 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: video that was claimed to be an ad. It was, 296 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: in fact an ad that Comcast had refused to air. 297 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: UM and the video this, this unaired ad claimed that 298 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: it was about. It was telling the story of a 299 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: thirteen year old girl, Maddie de Garay Um, who was vaccinated. 300 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: She was part of a FASER trial and had she 301 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: claims like a disastrously bad reaction. UM. An ad about 302 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: her situation was rejected by Comcast. UM and this girl 303 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: like has done the whole right wing in her I'm 304 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm guessing her parents are the driver's done the whole 305 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: right wing media kind of circuit at this point. UM. 306 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: The fact that Comcast banned the ad is what the 307 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: people in this telegram channel were yelling about. UM. And 308 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: I want to actually quote from the an article about 309 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: why Comcast rejected it, because it makes clear what's actually 310 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: happening here. Comcast is said to have told the ads 311 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: buyer it was rejected because it needed substantial creation and 312 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: all graphic images needed to be removed. Documents reportedly submitted 313 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: for substantiation included the girl's complete medical records, which are 314 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: said to have outlined symptoms such as erratic blood pressure 315 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: and pulse, muscle spasms, muscle tremors, headaches, brain fog, mixing 316 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: up words, and the inability to walk and cough. Um. 317 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: So you've got this case where number one there's graphic images, um, 318 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: and number two there's documentations that this girl has symptoms, 319 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: but there's not documentation that they're tied in any way 320 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: to the vaccine, Like it's just one of these the 321 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: comcast is being careful to not spread unsubstantiated shit about 322 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: vaccine reactions and stuff. Um. But within the telegram channel, 323 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: the focus is entirely on like how this is evidence 324 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: of this conspiracy there suppressing information and suppressing information. Um. 325 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: One response was, why in Heaven's name don't these parents 326 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: do their research before having their kids vaccinated? My heart 327 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: goes out to the precious child and family. What a 328 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: lesson to learn for so many parents. Never too late 329 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: to educate your selves. People. Also, I want to point 330 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: it just that the spelling and the are incredible. There's 331 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: an upsetting amount of emojis that Yeah, honestly, I couldn't 332 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: never never two with one oh late to educate your 333 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: space selves. Uh, it's just again and now I'm doing 334 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: they're doing the thing. I'm doing the thing I tried 335 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: not to. I did try to give it a straight 336 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: read through. You can be challenging with It's like it's 337 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: very funny content. It's it's very funny. Yeah, but but 338 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: but I think you know this, this is this goes 339 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: back to the whole point about how this pradicalization works, right, 340 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: which is, you know you have, especially with anti vax 341 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: stuff that has this sort of larger base from just 342 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: like regular peer like hardwright Nazi stuff. You get to 343 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: see people who you know, otherwise probably would be a 344 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: vaguely normal person, very very quickly get all this stuff 345 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: and very quickly just go off the deep end. They're not. Yeah, 346 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: these it is it's hard to say like these are 347 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: all extremists because like they are themselves aren't extremists. There's 348 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: surrounded by so much content that is made by extremists 349 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: that it's making them do these things, which is how, 350 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: which is how extremism works right, but it's it's challenging 351 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: because like when you try to explain this to someone, 352 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: you're like, no, this is obviously just like a regular 353 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: grandma or something, right, And it's hard to explain to 354 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: them how fast this thing can move to the point 355 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: where they're showing up at a school board with their 356 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: grand killed children yelling at like teachers and stuff. Yeah, 357 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: and it's not that this lady is a Nazi. It's 358 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: that this lady can be, through the process you just outlined, 359 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: convinced to stand up next to a Nazi and like, uh, 360 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: defend his his right to do violence to people. She 361 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: has been convinced are president a threat to the lives 362 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: of her, her grandchildren, which is people may say, like 363 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: the whole like, oh, it's not worth parsing out that 364 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: much if you're standing next to a Nazi or a Nazi, 365 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: but like I would argue, no, what's actually the logistics 366 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: of what is happening here are much more dangerous than 367 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: a grandma radicalized into national socialism. Anyway. Another meme I 368 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: found it was a screen grab from fucking um Shawshank 369 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: Redemption with Morgan Freeman and I don't know whatever one 370 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: of the white dudes in that movie in prison jumpsuits, 371 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: sitting next to each other, and it's the text on 372 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: it is what are you in for? I spoke of 373 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: at a school board meeting, which you she see a 374 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: lot of stuff like this, the idea that they're going 375 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: to jail, they're going to get rated by the FBI 376 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: because they're like showing up at school boards to protest 377 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: vaccine mandates and mask mandates. Um. And then like in 378 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: the middle of all this stuff mostly talking about like 379 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: anti vac shit, there's also this post talking about how 380 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: this post that's a video of a woman at a 381 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: school board talking about how a book needed to be banned, 382 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: and she's reading. The book she's reading is a queer memoir, um, 383 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: and it's about I'll talk about this more at the end, 384 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: but you can definitely mention it here because it gets 385 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: up a lot. It's it's a gay it's a gay 386 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: coming of age story, right, And as a result, there's 387 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: a couple of of semi graphic scenes in it. And 388 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: she like gets up in front of the school board 389 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: and reads this and argues that it's basically like pornography. 390 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: The children. They think it's child pornography. Yeah, that's what 391 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: they're marching mistaken what child pornography is. They're trying to 392 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: they're trying to get all the people at the school 393 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: board either killed or arrested over this. That is that 394 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: is their goal. And I'll talk about this specific instance 395 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: later because it keeps coming up with all of these channels, 396 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: and it's one of the main things that links someone 397 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: from like a sodden red channel to a channel like this. 398 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 1: This is like one of the main things they've been 399 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: using the past few weeks, like this is the current, 400 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: this is like the past, and and this is this 401 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: though has been going on for a while. You've seen 402 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: a lot of like the libertarian right wing, a lot 403 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: of like kill your local pedophile shirts because who's gonna 404 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: and most people don't think, like, who's going to defend 405 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: a pedophile about pedophiles? Yeah, the proud boy at the 406 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: Portland school Board who was standing and ready to fight, 407 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: the ready to fight scared guards and stuff, he was 408 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,719 Speaker 1: wearing a killer local pedophile. Uh, it's this is this 409 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: is the thing. This is the thing the right wing 410 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: figured out. And if they figured this out a long 411 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: time ago, which is that Okay, if if you want 412 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: to get a bunch of people who are vaguely normal 413 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: to do like absolutely horrible violence. The way you do 414 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: it is to tell them that they're threatening kids and 415 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know 416 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 1: and this once and what once you've convinced you know, 417 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: like this, this is this is just a very I 418 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: think a very important thing about media messaging in general 419 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: is that the literally the instant someone says think of 420 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: the children, you need to stop and you need to 421 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: disregard everything they're about to say after that stick. Yeah, 422 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: Like of the time that person is like about to 423 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: try to convince you that like you need to like 424 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: we need to murder the gauge or something like that. 425 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 1: Like that's that. That's the thing that follows from I 426 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: feel confident saying no one has ever advocated thinking of 427 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: the children and meant anything, but I want to kill 428 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: this specific group of people. Um, just like I that's 429 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: not even really hyperbole. It's it's a a trite and 430 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: true organizing tactic for these people, and it's part of 431 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: the reason why, like the famous white nationalist catchphrase is 432 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: focused around we need to secure a future for white children, right, 433 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: Like that's what they're always talking about with all of 434 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: this ship and it's it's about being able to demonize 435 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: a group in a way that they can't be defended. 436 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: It's about ending any sort of debate or conversation, and 437 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: it's about justifying thoughtless violence because it's you're protecting children. Um. 438 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: You know who else protects children, Robert, definitely not the 439 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: advertisers of this show, um, because we are sponsored by 440 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: raytheon brand school bus seeking missiles. The only missiles that 441 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: only seek school buses. You cannot shoot them at a tank, 442 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: at a at a technical at a at a terrorist 443 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: training camp. They go right for school buses no matter 444 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: where you aim them. So in that way, they're a 445 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: fire and forget kind of weapon as long as you're 446 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: willing to forget anything but hitting a child's school bus 447 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: with the with the missile. Okay, here's here's some as 448 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: check it out. All right, we have we're back still 449 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: talking about this. Uh so last segment for this episode. 450 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: As we as we as I was talking about that, 451 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: there's a post and in the post is a video 452 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: of a woman from a different school board meeting reading 453 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: out a graphics graphic ish sex scene from this queer 454 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: memoir and ranting about how it's it's child pornography. Comments 455 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: include fucking monsters running these schools, satanic and disgusting an 456 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: elementary school. Unreal. Why aren't charges brought against the school 457 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: for distributing pornography to minors? It's not even read they 458 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: can It's just available from some other library. It's like, 459 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: because you can request a lot of books at libraries 460 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: in all caps, where's the sheriffs, where are the city, county, state, 461 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: and federal task forces? And uh yeah, it's It'll talk 462 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: about this more in the next episode. Tied to the 463 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: overarching anti anti queer, anti trans, anti gay school board 464 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: side of things, and of course other things I found. 465 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: There's like video of them celebrating Capital rioters, celebrating Josh 466 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 1: Holly for defending Capital rioters. Um. I went into some 467 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: other channels that were adjacent that I saw shared, you know, 468 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: in this channel. One of them was Oscar's midnight writer 469 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: Patriot Post channel, which actually has thousands and thousands of followers. 470 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: Average post would get two to three thousand views. Um, 471 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: here's one. I'm considered a domestic terrorist if I tell 472 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: a school board that I don't want my eight year 473 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: old daughter watching sex videos in her third grade classroom. Um, 474 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: and that post was right above this post. The constitution 475 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: actually says you can legally overthrow your government if they 476 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: are tyrannical. And that post was right above this post, 477 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: which was a screen which was a screen grab from 478 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: a Twitter account for a guy who calls himself Murray 479 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: Rothbard seventeen seventies X. The FBI didn't rate Epstein Island 480 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: or protect hundreds of young female gymnasts from being sexually 481 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: assaulted for years, but they'll raid your PTA meetings when 482 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: you questioned the curriculum and on scientific mask mandates and 483 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: their indoctrination camps, I mean public schools. And of course 484 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: this from Twitter user named Emerald Robinson. And again this 485 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: is all shared in that channel. It's like a screen 486 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: grab from Twitter. When the FBI starts arresting parents at 487 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: school board meetings, just remember the GOP senators who made 488 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: it happen by confirming Merritt Gardland as Attorney general. And 489 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: then it's a list of Republican u Emerald Emarad Robinson 490 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: is the White House correspondent for news Max. Oh right, 491 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: oh my god, yeah, you're right. Uh huh great, great, 492 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: So I don't know. That's probably all I should get into. 493 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: Uh well, no, there's we can more things. So Oscar's 494 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: Midnight Writer, which was shared in in that uh that 495 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: school board channel took me to the Western Chauvinist school 496 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: Board Channel, which took me to a post which with 497 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,239 Speaker 1: a video UM with a link to a video. The 498 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: text with the video was woman at school board meeting 499 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: calls out Jewish power by name um and it's a 500 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: woman ranting about how the Jews are behind all of 501 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: the critical race theory in schools UM. So again not 502 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 1: hard to get to this kind of ship. Another post 503 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: was it was in the Western Chauvinist Telegram. It was 504 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: sharing a post from the Murder the Media telegram who 505 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: were part of the Capital riot. UM. That post from 506 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: Murder the Media was National school Board Association apology letter 507 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: for calling you domestic terrorists. It was we'll talk about 508 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: this later, but the comment in the Western Chauvinist was like, 509 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: we don't apologize for being like for being domestic terrorists. 510 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: Like we're yeah, we we think it's rad that they 511 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: called us domestic terrorists. Because Javinist channel, by the way, 512 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: has over fifty subscribers UM and used to be a 513 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: proud Boy channel, which is now just a general kind 514 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: of farther right wing organizing channel that it's probably it's 515 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: one of the most shared Telegram channels in this whole network. UM, 516 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: and they are really good at creating propaganda that appeals 517 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: to Trump voters while slipping in a lot of accelerationist 518 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: talking points UM to slowly lead people on that breadcrumb 519 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: trail to make them be okay with mass violence. There 520 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: was a comment in there, forwarded from another from the 521 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: telegram account of a guy named Eric Striker. UM and 522 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: this was a post Striker made commenting on a video 523 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: of a father being dragged out of a quote woke 524 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: school board meeting. UM for uh complaining of complaining about 525 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: this kind of ship UM. The post from Eric Striker 526 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 1: I think is worth reading, and I'm going to read 527 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: it now. For now, all we can do is impotently 528 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: watch injustices like this unfold. This is really upsetting. We 529 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: must build our political organization to the point where we 530 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: can rapidly mobilize to defend this man, including physical demonstrations, 531 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: sent him free legal support, and make people realize that 532 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: the time of fucking with whites is over. We need 533 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: our own media, civil society groups and activists. We need 534 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: money and volunteers. It's not the Republican Party or anything 535 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: in the conservative movement. It never or will be. We 536 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: need to build it from scratch. We are well underway 537 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: National Justice Party. We must quietly and patiently build. Eventually 538 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: we will have the capacity to come on the scene 539 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: when they at least expect it and will be and 540 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: we will be too powerful to stop. And that's probably 541 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: where we should end for today. Yep. That that's a 542 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: good part, good sad intro into the current problem of 543 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: schoolboard meetings. We'll get into a lot more like accelerating 544 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: rhetoric in the next bit and then talk about kind 545 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: of where the stuff originated from and the other other 546 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: side of things beyond just like the CRT and UH 547 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: and and mask stuff, because it branches out into a 548 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: lot of other kind of adjacent cultural war bullshit issues. Um. Anyway, yeah, 549 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: we'll do that tomorrow. Um. You can follow the show 550 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram, it happen here, pod and cool 551 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: zone Media if you want to be on those apps, 552 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: which I don't know why you would. 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