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Speaker 1: with Jerry is every week you're gonna get some quotes

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Speaker 1: have been the back to back playoffs and the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers are one of the best organizations in football,

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Speaker 1: so like, it looked a little weird when Tua got hurt,

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Speaker 1: but since he's come back, they've won three straight games

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Speaker 1: and it's just a very intriguing matchup. Here's the problem.

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Speaker 1: It is freezing cold in Green Bay. Decent chance that

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Speaker 1: the game is in the teens and it could be

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Speaker 1: snowing on Thursday night, I looked up some stats on

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Speaker 1: Tuatonga bai looa one. The Dolphins in general have not

439
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Speaker 1: been very good on primetime in like their last twelve games.

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Speaker 1: That game against the Rams helped their record out a

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Speaker 1: lot because going into that game they were two and

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Speaker 1: eight in their last ten games. After winning that game,

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Speaker 1: they went to three and nine, so, or excuse me,

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Speaker 1: they were two and nine. My math is, John, did

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Speaker 1: you go to college? Did you listen to high school?

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Speaker 1: The answer is kinda and no, not really. But coming

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Speaker 1: into the Rams game, they were two and nine in

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Speaker 1: their last eleven primetime games. Winning that game got them

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Speaker 1: to three and nine. So they have not been great

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Speaker 1: in bright light spots, but where they are really terrible,

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Speaker 1: and this to me, is a direct reflection of Tua,

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Speaker 1: who actually has looked good these last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: He's looked like a really good quarterback, look like a

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Speaker 1: top ten quarterback in the NFL. He has been atrocious

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Speaker 1: in cold games, and there's a difference in cold games, right,

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Speaker 1: Like that Chiefs game was frigid. It was like negative

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Speaker 1: wind chills. I'm just talking games under forty degrees. Under

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Speaker 1: forty degrees, Tua has not won a game in his

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Speaker 1: last seven attempts. He is zero to seven in forty

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Speaker 1: degree or under games. And it's understandable. Doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: great arm. His game doesn't really translate to freezing cold temperatures.

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Speaker 1: And then you factor in the franchise. They play in

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Speaker 1: tropical weather. It's fucking gorgeous. I just a couple days ago,

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Speaker 1: was that last Friday? So last Friday Saturday, I played

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Speaker 1: with the played golf with the guy that lives in Miami,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, what was the weather? He's like,

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Speaker 1: played golf yesterday was gorgeous, like eighty degrees, no humidity, beautiful.

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Speaker 1: This is why you know these six months in Miami

469
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Speaker 1: are hard to beat. Like, yeah, same thing here, How

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Speaker 1: do you relate to going in that weather. It's why

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Speaker 1: I like Seattle last week. It's like Arizona their last

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Speaker 1: two big wins against the Jets and the Bears have

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Speaker 1: been in Scottsdale or in Glendale in a controlled environment.

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Speaker 1: Then you've got to go to Seattle in late November,

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Speaker 1: where the weather it can be cold, windy, and wet.

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Speaker 1: It's a tough transition. And what happened to Arizona. They

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Speaker 1: look terrible on offense, and Kyler is much more physically

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Speaker 1: gifted with arm strength than Tua. Now this is Packers

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Speaker 1: minus three and a half. That extra half point makes

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Speaker 1: you a little nervous. But I have a simple philosophy,

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Speaker 1: like I will bet against the Jets. I will just

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Speaker 1: bet against the Jets. Who are the Jets playing this weekend?

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Speaker 1: I will bet against them. I'll do the same thing

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Speaker 1: with the Miami Dolphins when they play in cold weather,

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Speaker 1: as long as Tua is their quarterback. Now, what's weird

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Speaker 1: what about the Dolphins is you know their defense under

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel has been more than questionable the last three weeks. Now,

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Speaker 1: granted they have played the Raiders and they played the

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Speaker 1: Patriots last week, they have held teams under twenty points.

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Speaker 1: They have played and they played the Rams. They have

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Speaker 1: been playing very very good defense. I just think this

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Speaker 1: is a mismatch. Like to me, this has like I

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Speaker 1: don't know, twenty seven to ten written all over it

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Speaker 1: and just a physical like we're used to playing in this,

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Speaker 1: practicing it, and living in it. You're just not. So

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Speaker 1: I like the Dolphins, and I'm not gonna do something.

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Speaker 1: I guess I will. Will I talk about the Raider

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Speaker 1: game before Raiders Chiefs. I guess we can talk about

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Speaker 1: it after we We will do something in regards after

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Speaker 1: these games are played, so I guess I can. I

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Speaker 1: can say something about the Raider Chiefs game on Thursday

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Speaker 1: night after this game finishes and we record a little

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Speaker 1: son something. But that spread, I look today, it feels

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Speaker 1: a little big. Even though the Raiders are in complete shambles.

505
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Speaker 1: The Chiefs don't really blow people out. And that's spread

506
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Speaker 1: is twelve and a half. Pretty big number, honestly, pretty

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Speaker 1: bad reflection of the Raiders. Like, listen, we're ten and

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Speaker 1: one and we beat everybody, but we don't win games

509
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Speaker 1: by much. But Vegas thinks you guys are that shitty

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Speaker 1: likes that's pretty embarrassing, but we'll get into that a

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Speaker 1: little bit later. Okay, back at it again with my

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Speaker 1: main man, Jackson, who is truly living the dream. Update us.

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Speaker 1: Are you moving to downtown Old Town Scottsdale as a

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Speaker 1: young man in your How old are you? Twenty three?

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Speaker 1: Twenty four?

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm twenty four years old John, about to

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Speaker 3: be twenty five in two weeks. I tell my mom

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Speaker 3: this all the time. I'm a single man. I've been

519
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Speaker 3: single for a while for two reasons. One invested a

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Speaker 3: lot of time in college football, so much parody, not

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Speaker 3: a lot of time when in terms of women and

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Speaker 3: dates and stuff like that. But my second one, I've

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Speaker 3: been living in a little studio for about a year

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Speaker 3: and a half. So now we're we're branching out to

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Speaker 3: a one bedroom. Don't have to come over. We got

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Speaker 3: a couch, we got.

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Speaker 4: A living room.

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Speaker 3: You can come over, John, grab a beer. Like the

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Speaker 3: studio apartment was just not working, and I think part

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Speaker 3: of it. Hopefully my dating love life will increase because

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Speaker 3: I'm in a one bedroom, So that's why it's a

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Speaker 3: little dry in the background. Got the helmets still in

533
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Speaker 3: the back, haven't packed those yet, but yeah, we're moving

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Speaker 3: to old town. Man, it's gonna be it's gonna be wild.

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Speaker 1: If you can't get it done down there, you might

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Speaker 1: as well just retire because.

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Speaker 3: These Scott Stale girls, Man, I just don't know, man,

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Speaker 3: But it's.

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Speaker 1: Just the options are pretty Oh yeah, I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: good luck in your future endeavors now in old town

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Speaker 1: scott Stale.

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Speaker 3: You know we'll stay a locked. No, but I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: We got a ton of questions. College football just continues

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Speaker 3: to get better and better every week. So I want

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Speaker 3: to start out here. We've covered the sport fifteen years plus,

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Speaker 3: is this the craziest college football season that you've covered

547
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Speaker 3: or seen? Because I mean, in the top twenty five

548
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Speaker 3: this season, we've had forty nine upsets, whether it's a

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Speaker 3: lower ranked team being a higher ranked team. And then

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Speaker 3: my second question is so much parity in the sport.

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Speaker 3: What's rooted all of this?

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Speaker 1: Well, I would say college football has dramatically changed in

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Speaker 1: the nil transfer portal era, and I think we're really

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Speaker 1: feeling the impacts today more than even the last couple years.

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Speaker 1: Not that we didn't, I mean we had good players

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Speaker 1: that transferred to other teams, but now the dispersion of talent,

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Speaker 1: Like if it didn't exist, I think we would see

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Speaker 1: LSU Alabama, for example, be a lot better than they

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Speaker 1: are in terms of talent on their roster, and teams

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Speaker 1: like Ole Miss, who has improved greatly. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: a disaster. They're probably gonna end up nine to three,

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Speaker 1: much closer to the mean of seven or six wins

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Speaker 1: how they've always been. But they have players that would

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Speaker 1: have been on the other team's rosters because they can

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Speaker 1: buy them. And I just think you're seeing these teams

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Speaker 1: like what the hell is the difference of Like I'm

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Speaker 1: just watching Oklahoma play Alabama and you just watch the

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Speaker 1: talent plus conference realignment, Right, Alabama never had to play

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma on the road, like that was just a game

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Speaker 1: that did not exist. And I think the more and

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Speaker 1: more you have to play these games, it just makes

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Speaker 1: it more difficult. Look at you know, the Big Ten,

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Speaker 1: just adding Oregon USC, it's just an extra game of

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Speaker 1: not a Patsy And obviously Oregon's better than this a

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Speaker 1: C but you know what I mean. So I think

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Speaker 1: a lot has to do with the transfer portal, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is gonna stop. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot more like the NFL. Now, the good teams

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Speaker 1: are always gonna be the good teams because they have

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Speaker 1: more money. But I think it's gonna be much more difficult,

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Speaker 1: you know, for a good team with a tough schedule

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Speaker 1: to go undefeated. Those days are probably gonna be few

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Speaker 1: and far between, because it never in the NFL you

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Speaker 1: have an incredible season if you're fourteen and three, Like,

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Speaker 1: maybe we need to change our mindset of like ten

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Speaker 1: and two, if you play in a big conference, is

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Speaker 1: a great season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw a couple I saw a tweet.

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Speaker 3: Actually it was a couple of years ago when it

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Speaker 3: was the fourteen format and it was like a ten

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Speaker 3: and two team was like ranked five in the country.

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Speaker 3: And now it's like, if you're a ten and two,

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Speaker 3: you're ranked sixteenth, seventeenth, fifteenth.

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Speaker 4: In the country.

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Speaker 3: So you're right, the parody in the sport at the

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Speaker 3: transfer portal, it's it's chaotic. That leads me to my

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Speaker 3: second question, which loss is worse? Nine Ole miss losing

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Speaker 3: at Florida or seven Alabama losing to Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: I actually think Florida's pretty good, and if you put

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Speaker 1: them in the dance right now, I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people would bet on them to like beat Penn

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Speaker 1: State or or let me rephrase, I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: inconceivable that they could beat like Penn State or Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame on a neutral site right with their talent. I

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Speaker 1: mean you just watch them, like defensively they got due

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Speaker 1: to obviously the young quarterback, the young running back are good.

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Speaker 3: What's your question, No, you're good. I was just saying,

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Speaker 3: which loss Ole Miss or Alabama?

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Speaker 4: Oklahoma?

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Speaker 3: I mean both teams were in the driver's seat, and

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Speaker 3: now it's like both teams I think I saw Ole

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Speaker 3: Miss is four percent to make the CFP and then

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Speaker 3: Alabama's like eleven percent, and people are still thinking that

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Speaker 3: sec bias, which we'll get into later, that Alabama can

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Speaker 3: still make it.

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Speaker 1: But which loss do you think is worse? I think

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Speaker 1: we also got to preface this all by both these

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Speaker 1: were on the road, Like playing at the Swamp and

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Speaker 1: playing at Norman at night is not easy. Now, Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: this year has been a disaster on offense. I mean, statistically,

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Speaker 1: I think their offense was one of the worst in

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Speaker 1: the country. And from the eye test, they've I mean,

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Speaker 1: they benched Jackson Arnold, they went to the other kid.

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Speaker 1: Then they benched him and went back to Jackson Arnold,

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Speaker 1: who probably had his finest moment in the program. And

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Speaker 1: I actually give Venables a lot of credit because in

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Speaker 1: the transfer portal Era to get benched in his shoes,

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Speaker 1: and he was what like the third or fourth quarterback

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Speaker 1: in arch Manning's class, Like he was right there Nico,

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Speaker 1: like he's a hype guy. He didn't like, fuck you guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm out. He stayed. When I went to the Texas game,

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Speaker 1: he was there playing catch. I forget the backup quarterback

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Speaker 1: Michael Hawkins Junior the other day, Hawkins, he was like

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Speaker 1: playing he was playing catch with him and warm ups

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Speaker 1: like he was into it. So like you deserve credit

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Speaker 1: in a day and age where how often in that

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Speaker 1: situation does the Jackson Arnold ever play another snat for Oakland.

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Speaker 3: Especially with the whole UNLV thing with Matthew Sluca. He

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Speaker 3: could have said, you know what, I'm gon a red shirt,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave, but he stayed. And they didn't even

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Speaker 3: throw the football in Alabama either. I mean he ran

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Speaker 3: for like one hundred and fifteen yards one hundred twenty yards.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would imagine Jackson Arnold is the

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback for Oklahoma next year.

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Speaker 4: At this pace, if he just can't turn the ball over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say neither loss is that crazy. Like Alabama,

647
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: their team just Nick Saban last year had one of

648
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Speaker 1: the greatest coaching years in the history of his Life's

649
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Speaker 1: in sane and let's face it, they got a little lucky.

650
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: They easily could have lost a couple games, and they

651
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: won the Auburn game on a last second. It wasn't

652
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Speaker 1: quite a hail Mary because like he threw it like

653
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers or Brett Farv he didn't have to heave it,

654
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Speaker 1: but it was a forty yard bomb in the back

655
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Speaker 1: of the end zone to win the game. You lose.

656
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Speaker 1: They're not in the playoff, right, I'm pretty sure they lose.

657
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: They're not even in the SEC championship game. No, so

658
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Speaker 1: it would have derailed everything. I guess my overall take is,

659
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Speaker 1: like I I don't think these losses are that crazy.

660
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Speaker 1: I think we act like it's twenty fifteen. Those days

661
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: are over all the difference of these teams. Oklahoma's good

662
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Speaker 1: on defense. DJ Lagway is really really good. You know.

663
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Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, I don't think it's really

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Speaker 1: that nuts. This is not twenty fourteen Alabama. It was

665
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Speaker 1: a twenty point favorite where if they would have lost,

666
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Speaker 1: this would have been there. We've already seen them lose

667
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: to Vanderbilt, right, we saw that happen. I think what

668
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: makes their season crazy is they, you know, for a half,

669
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Speaker 1: they beat the living piss out of Georgia like that.

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00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: That's one thing that's like, God, how did that happen?

671
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Speaker 1: I think clearly if they played again, Georgia would probably

672
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Speaker 1: win right at Alabama at Georgia neutral field. So overall,

673
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Speaker 1: take I don't think these upsets are as crazy as

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Speaker 1: the way we're like, uh you know, uh, not brainwashed,

675
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: but just wired with college football all of our life.

676
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: Like those days are over.

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Speaker 3: I think I was just more shocked by Old Miss

678
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Speaker 3: because they beat Georgia at home coming off of a

679
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Speaker 3: bye week. Their defensive front looked unstoppable, Jackson Dart looked great,

680
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: came back off the ankle injury, and then they just

681
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Speaker 3: kind of fell flat to Florida.

682
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Speaker 1: So my next question to you is there's a good

683
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Speaker 1: example like Jackson Dart. Everyone's been hyping this guy up. Yea,

684
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Speaker 1: he has some bad moments early in the season. Then

685
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Speaker 1: they get it rolling a little bit. I mean they

686
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: beat Georgia, you know, driving rainstorm. Right, it wasn't like

687
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: it was a tough place to play. Carson Beck was awful.

688
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart was making throws in that game that looked

689
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Speaker 1: like an undrafted free agent. Like it was pretty embarrassing

690
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Speaker 1: his decisions. Now he wore it after the game was

691
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Speaker 1: in tears. I saw his price conference, But like the

692
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Speaker 1: he threw one ball in the end zone. He threw

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Speaker 1: in a triple coverage.

694
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was like a minute fifty eight left,

695
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Speaker 3: three timeouts on the thirty nine yard line.

696
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Speaker 4: Then they get the balls in triple coverage. Yeah.

697
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Speaker 3: Then they got the ball back through two interceptions. One

698
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: was dropped, then through another one, so basically through three

699
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Speaker 3: interceptions in one minute.

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Speaker 1: I do think, and I'm not an SEC historian, but

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Speaker 1: if they win this week, which I would imagine is

702
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Speaker 1: the egg bawl, right, they playing Missippi State, then they

703
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: win their bowl game. It would be one last year

704
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: is the first time in the regular season they've ever

705
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Speaker 1: won back to back double digit games, and this would

706
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Speaker 1: be three straight years of double digit wins. Like you

707
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Speaker 1: guys are in Alabama, ALSU Ohio State, like it's a

708
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Speaker 1: remarkable run. You're all miss enjoy it.

709
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Speaker 3: Twenty million dollars in nil though to not make the

710
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Speaker 3: twelve team playoff.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

712
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Speaker 1: That's just they've been brown bagging people there forever. It's

713
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Speaker 1: just a little more.

714
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. I was gonna ask you. Then we'll

715
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Speaker 3: move on to the next one. In terms of Alabama,

716
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're a former scout. What's been going on

717
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Speaker 3: with Jalen Milroe? Just the inconsistencies from him? And then

718
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Speaker 3: my second question is we kind of saw Pennix with

719
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Speaker 3: de boor year one was fine, Year two he comes

720
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Speaker 3: in and just takes off. Do you kind of thinkuse

721
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Speaker 3: Milroe has one where year left that he would go

722
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Speaker 3: or do you think there's so much hype around him

723
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Speaker 3: that he'll go and probably be a first second round quarterback.

724
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Speaker 1: Well, Michael Penix was a pocket quarterback, redefenses, chuck that

725
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: thing around like an NFL player. Jalen Milroe is like

726
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Speaker 1: advanced version of what the cult were hoping for. Anthony

727
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: Richardson kind of run around, makes some big plays. He's

728
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Speaker 1: not like I don't think even if he wanted to

729
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Speaker 1: come back Kaylen Duboor. If you think about the quarterbacks,

730
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Speaker 1: Kayln du Boor became Kaylen Duber with on the national

731
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Speaker 1: level was Jay Hayner, who was a fifth round pick

732
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Speaker 1: at Resident State, who was originally at Washington, and then

733
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Speaker 1: Michael Pennix. These are pocket quarterbacks. Jalen Milroe is kind

734
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Speaker 1: of a run around. Remember a couple of years they

735
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Speaker 1: bench Jalen Milrow. Last year right in the second or

736
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Speaker 1: third game of the season. Yeah, so I think this

737
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Speaker 1: thing's over, and I listen. He's obviously a very physically

738
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Speaker 1: gifted guy, but when it just comes to throwing the

739
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Speaker 1: ball in the pocket, being calm, cool, collected, it's not

740
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Speaker 1: really his thing. I saw a clip on Instagram of

741
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Speaker 1: AJ mccherrn say, it's kind of like meshing of two philosophies.

742
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: The way Dubar wins with his offense is not the

743
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Speaker 1: way Jalen operates, and they've tried to adapt, but it's

744
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: just hard. And obviously, you know, the best player on

745
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Speaker 1: their team, potentially he's the seventeen year old, maybe he's

746
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: eighteen now, but it's hard to get him the ball

747
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Speaker 1: unless you're just kind of scrambling, throwing bombs.

748
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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the era of the transfer portal, two people

749
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 3: already saying that he's gonna transfer after this season because

750
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Speaker 3: of what's going on this year.

751
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Speaker 1: I know this. If I was a quarterback who was good,

752
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: like the equivalent of you know, the Penix is the

753
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Speaker 1: Boon Knicks, whoever Will Howard, whoever the top transfer portal

754
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: become and there we know there's always like ten Ali.

755
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: I would be all over to boor in Alabama, wouldn't you.

756
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean, with the talent they're gonna have on offense

757
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: and an offensive head coach.

758
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Speaker 3: That's why it's tough for him because Alabama was an

759
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: Alabama Ohio State are one of those spoiled fan bases,

760
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 3: Like I remember you talking about it on your podcast

761
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago about how Alabama fans have

762
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 3: been so spoiled and then you lose two games, you

763
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 3: freak out, you lose three, everyone's freaking out.

764
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 4: But it's like Calen de Bor was the perfect hire.

765
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: It's his first year. Let's relax. He doesn't have most

766
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: of his guys. You're right too. The identity of the

767
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: quarterback position is not one that he's used to heading

768
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 3: in like you just kind of just came into mill Row.

769
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't get choose a gay and what was

770
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: he supposed to do? They just went toe to toe

771
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: with Michigan and it happened.

772
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Speaker 4: Happened in like February, I think too.

773
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Speaker 3: So it was like after the portal and then he

774
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Speaker 3: had to wait till spring transfer portal guys leaving guys

775
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: coming in. So but speaking of the portal, how do

776
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 3: you view Indiana ten and one after their blowout loss

777
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: to Ohio State.

778
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't take him seriously anymore. That second half I

779
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: think they had after the first drive. I mean, the

780
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: quarterback threw for under a hundred yards. And this Ohio

781
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: State team isn't exactly known like some a Trestle's dominant

782
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: defenses of the Urban Myers like this is that's not

783
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: the vibe here. They don't got Joey, Nick Bosa and

784
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: Chase Young running after you. But like they got lucky

785
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: because I think if every if Chalk just would have

786
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: handled business on Saturday and all those upsets wouldn't happen.

787
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: If A and M would have won, Ole Miss would

788
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: have won, in Alabama would have won. I would have

789
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: said Indiana shod a luck, but like, three losses is

790
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: a lot different than one, even if your schedule's easier.

791
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: I think I don't even know who they're playing this week,

792
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: but PERDW Yeah there, who's I think, like the worst

793
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: team in the Big ten, right, Yeah, so I would

794
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: have I got no problem with Indiana getting in given

795
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: that these teams have three losses. If all those teams

796
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: had two losses, I would feel no sympathy if they

797
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: got left down. I think they would be in grave

798
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: danger of getting left out. But I do you agree,

799
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: like it feels like they're in.

800
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're in. I was gonna compare it to like.

801
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: Probably the last Power four seed though, whatever that is.

802
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think right now you're gonna have a ten

803
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: to one Indiana. You're gonna have the loser of the

804
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 3: ACC game. You could potentially have Clemson South Carolina, depending

805
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: on how that game goes this weekend, and then you

806
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: would start to get into the Alabamas of the world,

807
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: potentially speak squeaking their way back in.

808
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 4: But I I think it's got to be Indiana.

809
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: I mean, it sucks because they're probably gonna get blown

810
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 3: out in the first round, and I kind of compare

811
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 3: it when I went to the Final four last year,

812
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: where the product wasn't the greatest because they all the

813
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 3: games Yukon just blew everyone out. So I think if

814
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: you're the CFP, you kind of sit back and you're like, damn, Like,

815
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 3: we don't want any blowout games, especially for television ratings,

816
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 3: money wise and stuff like that.

817
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: They've always had. They've always had blowouts. I think the

818
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: the t average margin of victory once they went to

819
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: the final four from the championship game whatever what year

820
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: that start, like fourteen or fifteen. I think the averag

821
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: margin of victory in the semi final games was pretty

822
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: big for like a six year span, So it's I mean,

823
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: it's inevitable. Could you argue that if Notre Dame were

824
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: to lose this weekend the USC, they'd still be in

825
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: or would they be screwed?

826
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 3: They'd be screwed too, Yeah, they'd be screwed. That NAU lost, Man,

827
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: it's just too tough. But hopefully they can come back

828
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 3: and beat USC.

829
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Speaker 1: We'll see.

830
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 3: But my next question for you, Ever since I was born,

831
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: the SEC has dominated the college fotball world. This season,

832
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 3: the SEC went no divisions last week, Greg Sankie complained

833
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: that you know on Twitter that his top teams based

834
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: on Shrek the schedule should get in the playoff over

835
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: in Indiana, and then this all happens last week. So

836
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: my question to you is, how do you view what's

837
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 3: happened with the SEC and do you think the SEC

838
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: bias is going to carry.

839
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Speaker 4: On to the playoff?

840
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: Where you were?

841
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 4: You born ninety nine? Barely?

842
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, make me feel old. That's a good, good, good

843
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: year to be born. You had you born right, You

844
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: never even had shitty internet once you came into your

845
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: own You just had good high speed Wi Fi. Yeah. Yeah, television, yeah,

846
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: half of my life. If you said the word WiFi, know,

847
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: people would look at you like, what is that a

848
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: dish at a restaurant. I would say the SEC bias

849
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: exists simply because Nick Saban won whatever six championships over

850
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: the last whatever years. We have several other cam Newton Championship,

851
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,959
Speaker 1: LSU Championship, like we have seen other championships. Ohio State

852
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: basically lands Urban Meyer when he quits the SEC after

853
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: dominating at Florida multiple national championships and immediately takes them

854
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: to a national championship and then the draft every year

855
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: speaks for itself. They always have the most players drafted.

856
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: Like I was talking to Colin about this, and listen,

857
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: I get Joel klass loyalties part of the Big Ten essentially,

858
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: right Fox and Danny Knell's an acc guy at Florida

859
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: State and they just they get so angry at the SEC.

860
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: But I think, if you don't have any bias, I

861
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: didn't go to any of these schools, I want to

862
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: fucking cal Pauly. I just watch college football because I

863
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: love it my whole life. If you watch Auburn against

864
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: A and M or Oklahoma against Alabama, and you didn't

865
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: know like the rankings or who's good who's bad, you

866
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: would just think, like, look at all the good players

867
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: on Auburn, like their speed, Like how many guys if

868
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: if let's just take ten schools in the Big Ten

869
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: not named Ohio State or even probably Michigan, how many

870
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: guys at Iowa or Minnesota or Wisconsin or Nebraska would

871
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: they want off Auburn's roster or Oklahoma's roster on their

872
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: Like would they cut immediately their guy to take that guy?

873
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: It'd be a ton And that That's where it's like, Listen,

874
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: I get like, well they're seven and five, they're not

875
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: that good. Just watch them play, especially especially at home,

876
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: because their environments I think we have to acknowledge are

877
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: way harder to play. And now because the TV deals

878
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: I saw ESPN just tweeted out like the television ratings

879
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: these SEC games. I mean like five to ten million

880
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: people are watching them all night because they got the

881
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: night slots now, and these environments look incredible, like I

882
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't say Norman, Oklahoma is known for like being the

883
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: most incredible home field and that place.

884
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 4: At night was rocking.

885
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: So I think when you factor in like the NFL

886
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: talent all these schools have, like they've earned the bias

887
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: Big ten could change it. Like what would the Big

888
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: ten do if the PAC twelve hadn't dissolved and they

889
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: didn't just get to add to Oregon. We'd be talking

890
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: about the conference being a joke. It's like Ohio State, Well,

891
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: hiwo State's been good. I don't know, I've been a

892
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: live forty years that entire time, probably even longer, like

893
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: Penn State, no one takes seriously. Everyone's making fun of Indiana,

894
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: like what would they be Like they're like claiming Oregon

895
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: like Oregan's been there for fucking five minutes. So like,

896
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: I don't know the other and the other two conferences

897
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: we all acknowledge, like, yeah, they're lucky to get one,

898
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: right did you say, like, do you think the ACC

899
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: might get two? Now?

900
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 4: Is that they might?

901
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 3: They they'll probably get two because both teams being one

902
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 3: loss and if both teams bearing that Miami doesn't lose

903
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: to Syracuse next week. I don't know who SMU plays,

904
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 3: but they probably play some lower ranked team in the

905
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 3: a c C Clemson out correct, yeah, they I mean,

906
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: you never know what the chaos. They technically still have

907
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: South Carolina, so they finished their conference games, so if

908
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 3: Miami or SMU loses, they would get or not SMU

909
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: because they clinch. But if Miami loses, they would get

910
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: into the a SEC Championship. But it's slim, but they

911
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 3: still have a chance if they beat South Carolina to

912
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 3: get an ass at large.

913
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: So Miami plays Florida State this week, right, I think

914
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: Miami plays Sarah No that game, that game already happened.

915
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: Actually yeah, yeah, that game already happened.

916
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 3: But to your point about the Big Ten, like everyone's

917
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 3: complaining about Indiana's schedule, being so weak, like most of

918
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 3: that most of their schedule is the Big Ten Conference

919
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 3: being six and five five and six seven four teams

920
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 3: like it exists, but everyone's ripping their schedule.

921
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: They just played a pretty normal Big Ten schedule, right,

922
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: I mean in those teams like we just look at

923
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: you just beat the shit in Nebraska, Like you just

924
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: don't get that much credit for that, which is not

925
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: necessarily their fault. But these are the current the current situation,

926
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: the actual world we're living in is these teams are

927
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: just not that good. I wish they were good. I

928
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 1: want Nebraska to be good, And every time I watch them,

929
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, Reola is the most overrated player in

930
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: recent memory. But that is like, but now, who's Michigan?

931
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: Like all the hype on Michigan is going to be

932
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: around this Underwood kid, who like all of our lives

933
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: that we've been following, Like, college basketball isn't typically like this.

934
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: If there's a guy at Underwood's level, like the hype

935
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: at that level or Riola's level, even if the guy

936
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: doesn't live up to the hype and he's up the

937
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: number one overall pick, he's like the seventh pick or

938
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: the twelfth pick in the NBA Draft. In college football,

939
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: it's like this guy's going to change the program. Two

940
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: years later he's like third shrink. Now with transfer portal,

941
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: he's just gone. So it's like they were we know,

942
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: the sec like whether the hype or not, like their

943
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: recruits always turned into big time players, I think the

944
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 1: Big Ten. Some of these schools, the hype hasn't matched

945
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: the actual player, which has been a major problem for

946
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: you know, Riola being average. I don't want to say

947
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: fuck Nebraska, but it obviously had a huge impact. If

948
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: Underwood doesn't live up to the hype, which is gonna

949
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: be huge, it's going to be a problem. I had

950
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: never heard of c J. Strout and I don't follow

951
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: recruiting like some but like he just started. Obviously he

952
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: was a big recruit. He'st Ohio State. But you know,

953
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: it was just like, damn, this guy can play and

954
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: that you know. I think sometimes now with the money,

955
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: it just has derailed. It's hard. I've heard I heard

956
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 1: a story about Riola. He like lives at the super

957
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: nice house kind of by himself with some family, like

958
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: Matt Lioner when he was going to school, just like

959
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: had a house probably with like Reggie Bush and like

960
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, and it's those and listen, you could

961
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: brown bad guys back then, but it was everyone was

962
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: kind of together and you just played with whoever you

963
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: came in with the class, and then the class under

964
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: you for like three or four years. And now it's

965
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: like everyone's kind of it's almost like pro sports, but

966
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: also kind of not. It's just a very bizarre time

967
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: if you don't have the right culture and you're breaking

968
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: off these freshmen for millions of dollars, which are mainly

969
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: just the quarterbacks, and then they don't live up to it.

970
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: Imagine being like a guard at Nebraska, who's you know,

971
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: let's just say you're making eighty grand from the nil

972
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: and you're a good player. You're like gonna be an

973
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: NFL guy one day. And you see this Riola guy

974
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: who everyone has been circle jerking for. It feels like

975
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm probably around the program for several years. I think

976
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: his uncle's on the pro the staff now. Granted like

977
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: they played there. His dad's a legendary player. And all

978
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: you do is hear about this and then you start

979
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,479
Speaker 1: playing the games. You're like, well, what are we doing?

980
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 1: This isn't really working, And that's to me how resentment starts.

981
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: You see it in the NFL. But what eventually happens

982
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: The guy gets bench? Guy gets cut in college? Now

983
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: with nil, it's harder, you know, it's like, what are

984
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: you gonna do bench Dylan Rayola because he has a

985
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: bad three game in hell?

986
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 4: No, yeah, I was. I was gonna ask you my

987
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 4: next question.

988
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: You talked about Bryce Underwood, long commit of LSUD, commits

989
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: and goes to Michigan for a guaranteed NILD of twelve

990
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 3: plus million dollars. What if a program signs a guy

991
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 3: like this, expectations got to be national championship or money's

992
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 3: not worth it for this kid? Like what are the

993
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 3: expectations for Underwood heading in? And then my second question

994
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: is is this a good move for Michigan because we

995
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 3: even talked last week, like you even said, I have

996
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 3: a hard time paying ten twelve million dollars to a

997
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,479
Speaker 3: freshman when I could go out and get a transperportal guy,

998
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: five year senior that played a lot of college football

999
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 3: for like four or five or even less than that.

1000
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: I would never in a million years. Like the NFL,

1001
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: you have to draft somebody, but the draft slot where

1002
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: you pick him is set right what NIL has turned into,

1003
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: especially you know with recruiting a freshman, it's much more

1004
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: like free agency. You get to pick and choose and stories.

1005
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: You know people, and I've talked to some people like

1006
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart is not comfortable paying huge amounts of money

1007
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: for high school recruits at quarterback. So why Reola is

1008
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: at Nebraska and not at Georgia? I would so to

1009
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: answer the second party, your I would not be in

1010
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: the business of giving millions of dollars to a high

1011
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: school quarterback. I think that is fucking insane. I mean

1012
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: I watched arch Manning come in that Georgia game, like,

1013
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, an underrated story about arch Manning that no

1014
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: one's gonna talk about U till next year, Like doesn

1015
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: not have the greatest arm, Like he's not This is

1016
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: not Josh Allen. Now he's I was close to him

1017
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: when he was warming up. He's big, but he's a

1018
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: He's like a baseball pitcher that's six ' four that

1019
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: throws ninety two. He's not throwing one hundred miles an hour.

1020
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: And I don't think most people realize that. Like, he's

1021
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: much more like Payden so it's like he's look differently

1022
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: than I think, like people expect Caleb Williams with an

1023
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: arm or even Jade Daniels. That's not really his thing.

1024
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: So I listen, I've never besides some clips on Twitter

1025
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: of Bryce Underwood. I to me, it's national championship, like

1026
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: it's some out of his control, Like their team has

1027
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: to be good. So it's on the coach and the program.

1028
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: But anything less than being like a potential first round

1029
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: pick after you know, a year or two starting where

1030
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear he's one of the best players in

1031
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: the country. It is just is a complete waste of

1032
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: resources because while there's no salary cap like the NFL,

1033
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: these programs don't have unlimited millions, right, and soon it's

1034
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: gonna be capped, right.

1035
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got fifty million dollars in nil for Michigan

1036
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: this year because of Oracle CEO and like the lums

1037
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 3: they have and stuff too. But you're right, there's no

1038
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 3: salary cap right now. I think the NCAA is trying

1039
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: to get that over. But if you got fifty million dollars,

1040
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 3: then hopefully.

1041
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: If you have fifty million dollars, it's to screw that up, right,

1042
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: But Larry Ellison, the Oracle guy. He's not even a

1043
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: Michigan alum, right, he's just dating the chick that went

1044
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: to Michigan.

1045
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 4: I think you're right. I think.

1046
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: Someone I talk to someone that's kind of in the

1047
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: loop or at least you know, has secondhand heard some things.

1048
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: This isn't they're cutting him a twelve million dollar check.

1049
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: It's like a year by year, you know, you get

1050
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: a couple million dollars, you hit incentives like you got

1051
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: to stay with the program. But I don't know. Man,

1052
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: if if you had to say this worker doesn't work,

1053
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: I would say it does not work. Right. The other

1054
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: thing is like, and here's what I do respect about Arch.

1055
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 1: Arch is pretty low key, right, He's been a backup

1056
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: now for a couple of years. If it doesn't work,

1057
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: it's not going to derail the program. It would be

1058
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: a big story if it just turns out Arch is,

1059
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: let's just say, not as good as Quinn yours or

1060
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: something right, because people are gonna expect a huge upgrade

1061
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: when he starts, which I'm telling you right now, I

1062
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: think people be careful what you like. And I'm not

1063
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be bad, but people are expecting to

1064
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: see like Tim Tebow meets Cam Newton meets Kayleb Williams,

1065
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: like the greatest college football player of all time, And

1066
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure that's gonna take place. But I

1067
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: would say the same thing with Underwood, Right, what are

1068
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: Michigan fans going to expect when this guy starts playing?

1069
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: Because fair or not? And who knows these numbers get out?

1070
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: It's not like this public information. What if he's only

1071
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: making like a million dollars next year, Everyone's like, oh,

1072
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: that's fifteen million dollar kid? Does he do you have

1073
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: to start him immediately? Like if Nebraska didn't have to,

1074
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: would they have just taken a deep breath and started

1075
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: someone else and let Riola come into it? Or do

1076
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: they just have no choice?

1077
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 4: Now?

1078
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, like Nebraska, it's not like Michigan has

1079
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: better options on the roster right now. But I don't know.

1080
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: Have you watched this kid play at all on YouTube

1081
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: or any No?

1082
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 4: I haven't.

1083
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: No.

1084
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like you, I'm not not a big high

1085
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 3: school guy. But to your point about arch Manning, like

1086
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 3: I think people get so enamored of him playing this season.

1087
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 3: He's had some reps started, he's played against Uo, Monroe,

1088
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 3: UTSA and Colorado State is what arch Manning has, so

1089
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 3: he hasn't faced any type of pressure. So that to

1090
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: me like when people are so in Ambra by arch

1091
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 3: Manning making all these throws and stuff, it's like, okay,

1092
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 3: but how about Nick Scorton from Texas A and M

1093
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 3: running you down? How are you gonna do? And then

1094
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 3: he played in Georgia and he couldn't do anything against Georgia.

1095
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: No. In fairness, I mean they got four NFL guys,

1096
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, I didn't looked at their schedule in twenty five.

1097
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: I would imagine it's not easy in the SEC where

1098
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the storm. And in fairness, you know,

1099
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,959
Speaker 1: and I respect Sark about this, they usually play someone

1100
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: real in the non conference, like it's you're playing real teams.

1101
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: I guess overall, I saw some clips of you know, BKA,

1102
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: who's getting crushed because of their season, and this is

1103
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: like added negativity on. This becomes much worse. If LSU

1104
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: was undefeated, it'd be like, oh, Bride didn't even want

1105
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: him anyway, right, But when you're having a shitty season,

1106
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, are we losing it? I would say,

1107
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: would not shock me at all. If this is not

1108
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: a big deal at all for LSU and I would

1109
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: not be And I don't think it's crazy one. I

1110
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: mean the way you described it and seeing Larry Ellison's

1111
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: name on all these maybe they just they didn't have

1112
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: they couldn't compete with the offer. Which what are you

1113
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: supposed to do? If you can't compete with the offer?

1114
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: There's literally nothing you can do. And two do you

1115
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: really want? I just think it's a very slippery slope

1116
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: when we're talking this much money with college kids, Like,

1117
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this guy? And I'm not against

1118
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: him getting paid, but how weird is it for literally

1119
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: everyone else on the team, Like Michigan's gonna have some

1120
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: right tackle whos making a couple hundred grand who might

1121
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: be what if by the end of the year, he's

1122
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: a way better prospect than this other guy, And he's like, God,

1123
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: this guy pulls up in a Rolls Royce. We don't

1124
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 1: even see him. He doesn't hang out with the team.

1125
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: He just gets weird.

1126
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: I feel you, All right, let's get back to some

1127
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 3: football talk. What happened last weekend. I want to talk

1128
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 3: about this team because we're both in Arizona Arizona State

1129
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 3: Sun Devils one went away from the Big Twelve title.

1130
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: Kenny Dillingham in year two into the sudden turnaround.

1131
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 4: What's your overall.

1132
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 3: Reaction by this team because sixteen they were picked sixteen

1133
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 3: before the season in the Big Twelve and now they're

1134
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 3: odds on favorite to win the Big Twelve.

1135
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: Right now, Kenny Dillingham is might. He's a absolute nut job.

1136
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean that video of him surrounded by the fans

1137
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:20,479
Speaker 1: screaming at.

1138
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 4: The referee with his wife behind him, with his.

1139
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: Who turned around after he started like screaming f bombs

1140
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: at him is everything that I love about, like the

1141
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: type human being I want in my life. Now. They

1142
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: should never have been in that situation, Like what was

1143
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 1: he doing at the end of the game, like having

1144
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: his quarterback run around for it was a disaster. If

1145
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: that was an NFL game with what was on the line,

1146
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: like two playoff teams, he would have got e viscerated.

1147
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: I mean, cause it it was you started doing the

1148
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: math when they still had some time out. You're like, Kenny,

1149
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: how's this gonna work? Like you're still gonna have six

1150
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: or seven seconds or it was gonna be like twelve

1151
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: or thirteen seconds on fourth down your quarterback, like, is

1152
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: he gonna be able to throw it in the air

1153
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: high enough after running around for five minutes? Even the

1154
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: play before on third down? Like it was it could

1155
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,479
Speaker 1: have gotten really bad, really fast. I know he was mad,

1156
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: but it was like, Kenny, you are flirting with disaster. There.

1157
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 4: There was like fifty seconds left.

1158
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 3: Fifty seconds left, Cam Scoutabo, one of the best running backs,

1159
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 3: gets four yards, You're on the three yard line, you're

1160
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 3: up five. Why not score and be up twelve with

1161
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 3: forty seconds left?

1162
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? I agree?

1163
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 4: But what do you make of like their turnaround? Because

1164
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 4: I think in the new age of college football, and let's.

1165
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 3: Face it, the younger generation with now with the transfer

1166
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 3: portal and nil, they're more sensitive to hard coaching. And

1167
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 3: I feel like a guy like Kenny Dillingham, he coaches hard,

1168
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 3: but he's also personable and can relate because of his age,

1169
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: and I think that kind of translates to their play

1170
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 3: this season. I think he's a cool story because you know,

1171
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 3: this is a guy that did not play football in college,

1172
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 3: Like he got hurt a senior year in high school

1173
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 3: towards acl here in Gottsdale, like he's from this area.

1174
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 3: The first time I ever heard about him is when

1175
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 3: I first moved to Scottsdale, probably late twenty twenty one.

1176
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 3: When I was coming here a lot.

1177
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: I played golf with a couple guys at the Phoenetian

1178
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: and by you know, it always comes up and what

1179
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm doing and what they do, and we start talking football,

1180
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: and this guy tells me he's, like, you know, my neighbor.

1181
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: Their son is the offensive coordinator at the University of Oregon.

1182
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: He's a big time up and coming coach. And his

1183
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: name's Kenny Dillingham. And I didn't know much about him,

1184
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: but when Dan Lanning first got the job, that was

1185
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: his guy. And what he's done a couple of years

1186
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: later at Arizona State, Like I don't think most people

1187
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: realize because everyone talks about Deon Sanders constantly and Rightfley,

1188
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: so I mean Colorado's and they got, you know, two

1189
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be drafted potentially like one and two.

1190
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: Dillingham not only does not have two guys are gonna

1191
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: be drafted one and two. I doubt they even have

1192
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna sniff. I don't know the top

1193
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: fifty in the draft. He is one win away from

1194
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: being coach of the year in the Big Twelve. On

1195
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: Sanders is not going to be the coach of the year,

1196
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: and you could argue like Dillingham would deserve it because,

1197
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: like you know, Deon's had a great turnaround, but he

1198
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: does have the two best players in the country potentially.

1199
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: Dillingham has a white running back from sax State. It's

1200
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: his best offensive player who kind of is pretty sweet,

1201
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: looks like Michael Start.

1202
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 3: No, he's phenomenal man. And they're they're transperportal recruiting class

1203
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 3: was ranked sixty six in the country. So on top

1204
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 3: of that, they kind of call themselves like the team

1205
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 3: of misfits but overall just an unreal story.

1206
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: They picked to finish last in the Big Twelve.

1207
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, they're picked finish sixteenth coming off a

1208
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 3: nine to three to nine season, Bowl ban bunch of chaos.

1209
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 3: And then I like him him after talking about how

1210
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 3: these players deserve to get paid, because I mean, we

1211
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 3: both live here, like Phoenix is such such a big city,

1212
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 3: so much going on, so much pro teams, so I

1213
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 3: think it's also cool for him to say, hey, let's

1214
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 3: start paying nil. You just kind of hope long term

1215
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 3: that ASU can keep them because I got like this,

1216
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 3: if he goes to like an Auburn or like a Florida,

1217
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 3: not Florida with Napier there. Now he's doing well, but

1218
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 3: I mean, the sky is the limit for him to

1219
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 3: be at an SEC school.

1220
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: I think he is one year away. I don't know.

1221
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: I saw Fine Bomb saying that there probably weren't going

1222
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: to be that many jobs opening up this season, so

1223
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: we might be a cycle away. But he wins. He

1224
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: doesn't need to win ten next year. He wins eight

1225
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: or nine again at Arizona State. I think he is

1226
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: a lock, like to be the hot name in college

1227
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: or one of them, you know, at Arizona State. This

1228
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: program has been a joke. Herm Edwards got fired well

1229
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: coach for five years. ESPN's like, we'll rehire you. I

1230
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you're gonna talk about college football? He

1231
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: does a landscaper. No, he doesn't even speak about it.

1232
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 4: It shows you.

1233
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I had people telling me that Herham couldn't

1234
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: name half his team like it was an embarrassment when

1235
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: he was here. It really was. And obviously they had

1236
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: a lot of good players over the years and it

1237
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: never turned into much. And I'd even say most of

1238
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: my you know, you were born in ninety nine, when

1239
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: I was in college in the mid two thousands and

1240
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: you were like four or five. They had Dennis Erickson,

1241
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: and they actually had some like you know, they recruited

1242
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: pretty well, but it always felt like something was missing

1243
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: and they could never quite get it going. And it

1244
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: goes back to like, you know, Jake Plummer. They had

1245
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: a couple of moments, you know, the Tillman years with

1246
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: Jake Plumber. But for the most part of this program's

1247
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 1: kind of I don't even want to stay underachieving because

1248
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: you live here, you realize no one really cares. But

1249
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: if they could make you care, I do think they

1250
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: could be a big deal. One. It's way easier to

1251
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: get there than it is to go to a NFL game,

1252
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: and it's obviously way cheaper, and you watch that environment,

1253
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: it actually is pretty cool. Even if you live where

1254
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,919
Speaker 1: I live in North Scottsdale, you're twenty minutes away from there,

1255
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: and if they're playing you know, cool teams. I actually

1256
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: think that they could get a little life. Now, you know,

1257
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: you start getting he wins nine games next year, you

1258
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: get you know, sixty seventy million dollars offer from some

1259
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: SCC school. What's Arizona State gonna do? And he just

1260
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: has to leave because you just go this is sustainable.

1261
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: And part of the reason he's banging the table because

1262
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: he knows the only way he can compete is to

1263
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: pay the players. And I remember when I first uh,

1264
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: I was slipping around channels early on when when he

1265
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: got hired, and they do training camp in Flagstaff because

1266
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: it's so hot, you know, in Tempe, which makes sense

1267
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: in august's one hundred and seventy five degrees, and he

1268
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: said that someone asked, like, who is that old man

1269
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: you know at training camp standing next to you? And

1270
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: he described the guy that was really their only donor

1271
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: that gave Kenny Dillingham a million dollars. I forget his name,

1272
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: but he's some businessman you know around the program. And

1273
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: they were fucked because Dealingham, when he first got hired,

1274
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: said if we don't if I don't raise some money,

1275
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm my entire team's gonna transfer. I'm not gonna have

1276
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: a We're not gonna have a football team. And he's like,

1277
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: this is the only guy that stepped up, and I

1278
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: and the guy asked me at the start of training camp.

1279
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: He's like, where do you want me to stand during practice?

1280
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: And Kenny Dillingham said, you can walk to the middle

1281
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: of the fucking huddle. This program doesn't exist without you.

1282
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: And it was like, you realize, how, like how can

1283
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: Dan Lanning relate to that at Oregon or de Bord Alabama.

1284
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the thing with Nil. It's kind

1285
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: of the halves and the have nots. Even this is

1286
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: the thing with Colorado, Like Dion doesn't have NIL issues there.

1287
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean it's kids are on KFC commercials and all

1288
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: State commercials like they're living large.

1289
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of Colorado, spoke too soon about the Colorado

1290
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 3: Buffalo's tough loss against another hot team in the country,

1291
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 3: like the two oddest teams in the country right now.

1292
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 3: You texted me this Florida Kansas or to turn around

1293
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 3: by Kansas, but kind of talk about what you saw

1294
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 3: in that game.

1295
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 4: It sucks.

1296
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 3: Colorado does not control their destiny. The only way they

1297
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 3: make the Big Twelve title is byu Iowa State, Arizona State.

1298
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 3: Two of those teams have to lose next week. Other

1299
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 3: than that, they're not gonna make the Big Twelve.

1300
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: Title. So yeah, I mean I think Kansas. I've heard

1301
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of people say the stat is the is

1302
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: the first under five hundred team to beat three straight

1303
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: ranked teams. They were a priest's and potential playoff team, right,

1304
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: and then they lost all the one score games. They

1305
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: didn't just beat Colorado, they kind of beat their ass.

1306
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: My gambling guy Stucky was on that matchup like two

1307
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: weeks ago. He's like, I'm looking ahead and that's that's

1308
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: a game at Kansas. They're gonna be a dog against

1309
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: Colorado if they keep winning hammer that and I had

1310
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: been betting Colorado. Now I stayed away, but it was

1311
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: clear earlier like oh, this is the difference. Like Colorado

1312
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: came back from Texas Tech, but you're like they can

1313
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: come back. This game there was a physical news to them.

1314
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: I think their running back went for like two hundred

1315
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: and fifty yards. I mean just even Dion said like,

1316
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 1: we got our ass kicked. So I I yeah, man,

1317
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: it sucks because I think Colorado Arizona State would have

1318
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: been pretty sweet. But yeah, I mean they got I

1319
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: would say if you could just restart the season right now,

1320
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: Kansas would be a problem that they would be a problem.

1321
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: So I don't even think that lost is that crazy,

1322
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: Like Kansas is pretty good. It's not your typical like

1323
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, Auburn beating A and M's a crazy upset.

1324
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: I think going into the game, Kansas was like a

1325
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: two or three point underdog. Now granted it was at

1326
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: home Arrowhead, but I.

1327
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 3: Was just shocked that Colorado could just not stop him

1328
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 3: once because it felt like Colorado would get within one possession.

1329
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 3: They need a critical stop. And then Devin Neil Jalen Daniels,

1330
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 3: like Kansas probably has like two or three guys that

1331
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 3: will get drafted in the top three rounds, Like Devin

1332
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 3: Neil's a stud running back, and they held the ball

1333
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:27,839
Speaker 3: for forty minutes time possessions, Colorado's nineteen crazy.

1334
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: I do think, you know, I mean that lost. Drail's

1335
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: probably the Colorado's championship host with Derail's their bull hopes,

1336
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: which is a problem for Colorado's bowl, right if you

1337
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 1: want Colorado in a bowl that's not a playoff game,

1338
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter and should do work Sanders are not going

1339
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: to play, so it makes it a link.

1340
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 3: So you think so because of Dion or will he

1341
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 3: be like you know what we want you healthy for

1342
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 3: the NFL.

1343
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: You think Travis Hunter would play in a meaningless bowl

1344
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: game that's not the playoffs, I don't know, I mean,

1345
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: it never happens. These guys are the two top five picks.

1346
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 4: The pop tards ball was pretty pretty special last year.

1347
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: Well listen, I'm a sucker for the Bulls, but I

1348
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: also think you know, if Dion Dion's gonna be fascinating

1349
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: this next month. The thing is not that many jobs

1350
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: are open, and he easily could just stay another year

1351
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 1: if he doesn't go to the NFL, which maybe he

1352
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: doesn't want to go to the NFL. He's tailor made

1353
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: for college because he got that big recruit that announced

1354
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: on McAfee's show, and everyone makes a big deal like

1355
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: these recruits if Dion next year goes to Auburn or

1356
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: Florida State, like his start that left tackle seventy seven,

1357
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: the number one overall recruit, the new quarterback, like everyone realized,

1358
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 1: these guys can just go with him, right, So it's

1359
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: everyone hypes up these commitments. That same thing with Underwood,

1360
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: like if Underwood doesn't like Michigan and he can just leave,

1361
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: Like commitments don't mean as much as they did our

1362
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,879
Speaker 1: entire life where it's like, ah, this guy signed with LSU.

1363
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 1: Do you remember land in Collins when he picked Alabama

1364
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: over LSU and his mom got really mad at the

1365
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: under Armour game, Like that was a big deal because

1366
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: it was like, this guy's just going to Alabama. That's

1367
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: where he's gonna play, Like he's not gonna Now if

1368
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: that happened, you'd be like, well, if he doesn't like

1369
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: it at Alabama, he can just transfer to LSU. So

1370
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 1: before it was like you kinda it was like a

1371
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: marriage with not really an out with a divorce because

1372
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: if you did transfer, you had to sit out a year,

1373
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: and who the fuck wants to do that?

1374
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 3: Last question for you, biggest game of the weekend, Texas

1375
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 3: Longhorns at Texas.

1376
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: A and M.

1377
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 3: Winner of this game will play Georgia in the SEC Championship.

1378
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 3: What's your early look ahead and when you look at

1379
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 3: this matchup. A and M come off a tough loss

1380
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 3: at Auburn, Texas on the road, probably gonna be if

1381
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 3: they win this game their best win of the season

1382
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 3: because they don't really have any ranked wins on their schedule.

1383
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 4: Texas, though quinn Ewers is dealing with an ankle injury.

1384
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 3: So to your point earlier about arch Manning, if arch

1385
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 3: Manning plays, we're gonna know a lot about him early

1386
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 3: in a hostile environment at Kyle Field.

1387
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: I think Texas could easily this game. I mean, assuming

1388
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: that A and M just didn't go into the tank,

1389
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: which they shouldn't, because if they win this game and

1390
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: they're in the SEC Championship game, they kind of control

1391
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 1: their own destiny, right because if they win, they automatically

1392
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: get in. We saw that game against LSU at night

1393
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: was insane. I don't know, I mean I I Arch

1394
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: may or not Arch, but quin you weres some some's

1395
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: been off with that team honestly for weeks. Like you

1396
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: just watch them play, they just feel kind of lifeless

1397
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: is probably the wrong way to put it. But every

1398
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: game is like fourteen to ten. You know, it's like,

1399
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: what is going on? Why? We know how talented this

1400
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 1: team is, we know how explosive their offense is. I

1401
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: mean when I was watch them against Oklahoma, I'm like,

1402
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: this team is just gonna overwhelm team with talent. You know,

1403
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: defensively they're stacked, and offensively they have two running backs

1404
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,839
Speaker 1: who can play the wide receiver number seven is a baller,

1405
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: but you just get these guys on quick screens and

1406
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: they can take a fifty eight. You watch them against

1407
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: like Kentucky's in the Arkansas, it's like this, why is

1408
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: it so hard for them to get a ten point lead?

1409
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: So I just don't trust Texas. They have been they've

1410
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: been winning games, which is what matters. But I know

1411
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: you watch them because your your buddy's on the staff, Like,

1412
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: don't they just look something just off?

1413
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1414
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 3: I think that game against Michigan, both Youers and Texas,

1415
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 3: you looked at them and you're like, Okay, this seems

1416
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 3: a national championship contender, like you were just throwing it

1417
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,799
Speaker 3: all over the yard, that the play calling from Sarkesan

1418
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,719
Speaker 3: was aggressive, and then you're right, since he got hurt

1419
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 3: and came back, they've just been so stagnant and they

1420
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 3: haven't really gotten the running game going. They did a

1421
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 3: little bit against Kentucky, but you're going to be against

1422
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 3: a front seven, And I'm worried about the offensive line

1423
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 3: of Texas because this Texas A and m front seven

1424
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 3: Nick Gorton, and what they have is the second or

1425
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 3: third best in the SEC. So if their offensive line

1426
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 3: struggles viewers doesn't particularly.

1427
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: Respond well from that.

1428
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 4: But I think you're right.

1429
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 3: This Texas team, like the odds right now, they're the

1430
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 3: third best or fourth best to win and it's like

1431
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 3: plus five hundred. But you don't even feel like confident

1432
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 3: in betting them because they've been so up and down,

1433
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 3: and they've.

1434
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: Said if they won the national championship stunned, stunned, they

1435
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: could easily win this week, like it's you know, it's

1436
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 1: not like I have a lot of fit you know,

1437
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: A and M They were down twenty one to nothing

1438
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: against auvereign teams, so who knows, I mean college football. Now,

1439
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: they've been bad on the road, but I have a

1440
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 1: hard time seeing sark host hoist the National Championship trophy

1441
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: and where because they brought everyone back on offense and

1442
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: their defense was way better, and they were they were

1443
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: right there toe to toe with Michigan. They should have

1444
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: been in the title game. And it feels like, in

1445
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: a weird way, they're worse. I don't know. Now, they

1446
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: lost a couple of de tackles obviously, who are really good,

1447
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean the dude to the Titans sweat the big

1448
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: guy and Murphy, But still to me, it's yours. He

1449
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 1: just he just looks kind of as you, what generation

1450
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: are your gen z?

1451
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:56,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think gen Z millennial.

1452
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're definitely not a millennial. Well you know eighty

1453
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: to like maybe ninety nine. Maybe you're the last year

1454
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: of millennial. I would say he's pretty mid as the

1455
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: kids would say average, Like to me, he's if I

1456
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: was a GM, obviously he's a draftable player. He would

1457
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 1: just be like I would not draft the player. I'd acknowledge, like, yeah,

1458
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: I third, fourth, whoever if someone wants him. But he's

1459
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: a no draft for my team.

1460
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 3: That's like what's been the one of the more not disappointments.

1461
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 3: But last year he had so much dominant elite quarterback play.

1462
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 3: It just feels like this year it's been so inconsistent.

1463
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 3: Like heading into the year, it was Carson Beck, Milrow,

1464
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 3: you Wers and just up and down the peaks and valleys,

1465
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 3: like the two quarterbacks I would trust, right, I mean,

1466
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 3: the one quarterback I trust right now is maybe Dylan

1467
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 3: Gabriel in college football right now, and then cam Ward

1468
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 3: is the second best. But he throws the ball interceptions

1469
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 3: a little nonchalantan iss But from your side of things, like,

1470
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 3: what quarterbacks in college football do you trust?

1471
01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: I do believe the nil of putting these guys on

1472
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: a pedestal, these guys making so much more than their

1473
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 1: entire team, these guys being treated completely different, these guys

1474
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 1: controlling college football because if they transferred to such a

1475
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: big deal, like they have a bunch of leverage, has

1476
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: really derailed the all of my life. These quarterbacks that

1477
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 1: played in college, even that were stars, you know, from

1478
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning to Tom Brady, through the Linered era through Tebow.

1479
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: Tebo's a good example, they still felt like a part

1480
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: of the team. And I think now it's got like

1481
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks in the NFL, they feel like part

1482
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 1: one of the guys. And I do think it's kind

1483
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 1: of thrown off its axis with the amount of money

1484
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,879
Speaker 1: these guys are being paid. Like imagine playing for Georgia

1485
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 1: being like the pass rusher Walker who's gonna be I

1486
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: don't know, a top ten pick and knowing that Carson

1487
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: Beck gets like three times as you if it's the NFL,

1488
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 1: Like listen, it is what it is. They're pay scales,

1489
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: Like in what world I getting paid five hundred grand

1490
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: and we're paying this guy a couple million dollars. I mean,

1491
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 1: because as you get older, you mature a little bit.

1492
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: At twenty years old, the fucking no way, I'd be

1493
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: like what And I just and he's living on his

1494
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: own in a high rise. It's a massive house, and

1495
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm you know, just I just think it's it's a

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01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: lot for young people to handle. And I wonder if

1497
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: when you watch these teams play that they don't feels

1498
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: like cohesive like usually in college even unlike the NFL,

1499
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: like you'd have the same group of guys together forever,

1500
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,759
Speaker 1: and now it's like guy's moving and shaking, this guy's gone,

1501
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: this guy's coming. The quarterback just feels not that they

1502
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: haven't always, but I think now knowing how much they're

1503
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: getting has to throw people off on the team. There

1504
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: has to be some resentment. These are human beings and

1505
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks are struggling. That's the thing. Like, So if

1506
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: you're a wide receiver on Texas, even if you're getting

1507
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: broken off and you're making seven hundred grand, you know,

1508
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: VI, youwrers is making millions. Like even if you like Arch,

1509
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: you're like, we know, I'm paying this guy five million

1510
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:07,799
Speaker 1: dollars is crazy?

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01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Nil is just I don't know, man, I think

1512
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 3: heading into NIL, I thought, specifically for me, I thought

1513
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 3: NIL was just for like brand deals and for sponsorships,

1514
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 3: for these kids to make money on their name, image

1515
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 3: and likeness. And now it's just turning the Tampa.

1516
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's it was. How was it not going

1517
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: to be that way? Because remember early on the NCAA

1518
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 1: was adamant that you had to separate the collective. Well

1519
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: that's no longer the case. The programs all run in it.

1520
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 1: They've just kind of waved the white flag. And these

1521
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 1: NIL deals, like Underwood was literally that's not NIL, that's

1522
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: we just bought them, which again I'm not against, I

1523
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 1: don't care, but if if you're trying to run a

1524
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: football team and win big, like how did Harbad just win?

1525
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: With that group? It felt like they were all together,

1526
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: like JJ was no different than Blake Korum, that was

1527
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 1: no different than all the defensive guys that all got

1528
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: drafted like that. And now it feels like, how is

1529
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: Underwood gonna show up on campus the first day and

1530
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 1: few himself as an equal? How could he?

1531
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 3: Do you think Charon Moore is gonna have to probably

1532
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 3: change his offense too, because if you're Underwood. You're not

1533
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 3: going in there handing the ball off as much as

1534
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 3: Orgie did this year and JJ McCarthy did. I guess

1535
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 3: did throw the ball a little bit. But you're not

1536
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 3: gonna have a Penn State game out of Bryce Underwood.

1537
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have to recruit unlike Jim and

1538
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 1: more like the SEC schools of like getting wide receivers.

1539
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 1: You know, that's just that wasn't Jim's deal. Offensive defensive lineman,

1540
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: running backs, quarterback, could be the game manager. You don't

1541
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: pay twelve million. Now, you could argue that's what the

1542
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: money's for. Do what we tell you. But part of

1543
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean Ohio State like why they dominate is they

1544
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: have awesome They have good quarterbacks, but they also have

1545
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: incredible wide receivers. When's the last time Michigan had like

1546
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: the equivalent of that at wide receiver. I mean they're

1547
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: guys like, wait, Nico Collins went to Michigan. You don't

1548
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 1: even realize it because the guys in college they stink

1549
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 1: or they just don't do much because that's not never

1550
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 1: how Jim played. I mean, look at Jim now, he's

1551
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 1: like best receivers lad McConkie. It's like a it's like

1552
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: a dream come true.

1553
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 3: Giving US White boys a chance on wide receiver. I'd

1554
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 3: love to see it. But that's all I got. Man,

1555
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 3: college football, unbelievable. It's incredible, manez it is.

1556
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: It's been a it's been a fun year. So we are.

1557
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: We just got I guess the conference championship games next week,

1558
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: so we will talk once we have a good idea

1559
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: who's playing who and uh, obviously they're gonna be some

1560
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: serious for the first time ever playoff burst on the one, uh,

1561
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: and I think we'll have a pretty good idea. I

1562
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: would say, what do you think maybe beside one spot

1563
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: of the at large bids we'll kind of know.

1564
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think a team that loses in the

1565
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 3: conference championship, I think they've said they're not gonna get

1566
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 3: penalized unless it's like obviously an A and M who's

1567
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 3: already had three losses, they're gonna get knocked out. But

1568
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 3: if Georgia loses the A and M, let's say an

1569
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 3: Er beat Texas and there they lose to him, they're

1570
01:19:59,080 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 3: still gonna get in.

1571
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say whoever gets the SEC

1572
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: championship game, there's a pretty good chance that both the

1573
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: schools get there. What's A and m's record right now?

1574
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 4: A and M's eight and three.

1575
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 1: So you're saying, if they lost, they'd have a fourth loss.

1576
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: That'd be interesting, well in them if an M loss,

1577
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 1: they probably get knocked out.

1578
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 3: Four losses, you would say. But then it's like the

1579
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 3: extra game. They had a game win against Texas, but

1580
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 3: then they win, they're in, and then Georgia would get

1581
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 3: in as well as a three loss team, and then

1582
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 3: you have Texas as a two loss team, you would

1583
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 3: have Tennessee in the mix too. So then for the

1584
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 3: SEC's purpose, if you're Greg Senki, I think you kind

1585
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 3: of want AM to win the SEC, so you get

1586
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 3: four teams in versus three.

1587
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be stunned, no matter how the gymnastics work,

1588
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: if the SEC is not have four teams representing them.

1589
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly, it's it's a little convoluted right now,

1590
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: but I think you know the Big ten ain't getting

1591
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: four teams in the SEC. Getting three, I think that

1592
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 1: would be you talk about us think, because they'd point

1593
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 1: right to Indiana and Penn State be like this is

1594
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: a joke. Those teams Penn State. Out of the two

1595
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: of them, they've played two real games and they both lost.

1596
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,560
Speaker 1: At least Penn State could hold their head high. I

1597
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,879
Speaker 1: mean that wasn't like I mean, they lost by touchdown

1598
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 1: at home, but still it's like that was a bad

1599
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: loss given they were up whatever seven nothing before you

1600
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: could even blink, and then kind of got worked from there.

1601
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 1: But Indiana, I don't think you can let Indiana in

1602
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: and let some of these you know, SEC teams go

1603
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: play in some random bowls that no one's gonna care

1604
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: about anymore beside us gamblers.

1605
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 3: Signetty's gonna be pissed if he doesn't get in, He's

1606
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 3: gonna be pissed.

1607
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 1: Okay, Jackson, enjoy old town Scottsdale, and we will talk

1608
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 1: to you next week.

1609
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 3: Appreciate you better lighting new apartment next week. Appreciate you,

1610
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 3: John Audios

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Speaker 1: The volume