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Speaker 1: Every Thursday from noon to two Appreciated by four. Welcome

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Speaker 1: into the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keats, and Stacy Ross.

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Speaker 1: We are getting you guys ready. It's Wildcard weekend. Seahawks

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Speaker 1: first opponent here is the LA Rams second matchup and

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Speaker 1: what is it now? Three weeks we'll see if they

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Speaker 1: can beat them again. I'm feeling good about this game though, Dave,

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Speaker 1: and it's not just because of their win over San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: We are going to look back at that win right now,

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Speaker 1: but it's because they might be playing John Wolford. So

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Speaker 1: we'll get to all of that. Don't worry. We've got

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Speaker 1: two hours of a preview show here. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: a look back at San Francisco. Another pretty solid performance

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Speaker 1: it's just something that that they've always done, you know,

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Speaker 1: But um, but they got the job done. And that's

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Speaker 1: the thing, you know, at the end of this this

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Speaker 1: he comes back and had a lot of confidence. Tell

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Speaker 1: us about John Wolford if we see him. Yeah, it

427
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Speaker 1: was a bout fact that I think was most impressive

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Speaker 1: against the Cardinals. Like he mentioned, first pass the game,

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Speaker 1: I mean the first passes a pitch, but first real

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Speaker 1: passes the game, interception almost return for six, but he

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Speaker 1: really bounced back. Um, you know, I think it was

432
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Speaker 1: a little I don't say the beginner's luck, but you know,

433
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Speaker 1: going in that Cardinals admitted they've never seen to throw

434
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Speaker 1: a past, had no idea what to expect. Then what

435
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 1: he's mobile. Obviously, now the film's out on John Wild,

436
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: he's mobile. He uses his legs. Um, you know, he

437
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Speaker 1: did drop back in the pocket. I think more than

438
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Speaker 1: anyone expected to throw the ball down the field, a

439
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: lot more than anyone expected. Um. But as far as

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Speaker 1: him being, you know, a better quarterback or there's a

441
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Speaker 1: quarterback controversy here. You know, Jared Goff is still clearly

442
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Speaker 1: I'm more talented, a more capable and more experienced quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But I think John Wolf really did proven his first

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Speaker 1: NFL appearance and he is a capable backup. Now, Lindsey

445
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Speaker 1: the defense for the Rams, There's been a few sound

446
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Speaker 1: bites here that you know, Aaron Donald is this was

447
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: the Seahawks were exactly the team that they were hoping for.

448
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Speaker 1: John Johnson talking about how, hey, you know, the the

449
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Speaker 1: Seahawks tried to hide DK away from Jalen Ramsey. What

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Speaker 1: is the confidence level of the Rams defense because it

451
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Speaker 1: seems to be very very high. Oh absolutely, it's very

452
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Speaker 1: very high. And I think it is so high because

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Speaker 1: it's based on their results. The Rams record. I don't

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Speaker 1: think this season is necessarily reflective of how outstanding their

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Speaker 1: defense has been. It's obviously the number one defense in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, but they have been really wreaking havoc for

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Speaker 1: opposing quarterbacks, for opposing receivers. It's really just come down

458
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Speaker 1: in the fact that their elphins can't score. But the

459
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Speaker 1: defense now has four touchdowns since Week eleven. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that's lost to the Seahawks, and Seattle really

461
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Speaker 1: stung for them, obviously knocks them out of contention for

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Speaker 1: the division title. And I know they really enjoy playing

463
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks. It's always competitive, it's always fun, and so

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Speaker 1: I don't think Aaron Donald when he said that made

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Speaker 1: any disrespect towards the Seahawks in any way, and they

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Speaker 1: really do like playing that team edge as competitive as

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Speaker 1: they are. You got a couple of guys who could

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Speaker 1: be in this game who either weren't last week or

469
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Speaker 1: haven't been for a while. Andrew Whitworth, which shocking could return,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. Michael Brockers could come off of the COVID list.

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Speaker 1: What's the status on those three and do you think

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Speaker 1: we'll see them on Saturday? Yeah, you know, Andrew Whitworth

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Speaker 1: has been desiated to return from into the reserve. They

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Speaker 1: knew its play. I'll be activated this week. It was

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Speaker 1: resand against the Seahawks. If you remember he was he

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Speaker 1: left the field on a cart. He toured PCL and

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Speaker 1: MCL and he on Sunday before the game was out

478
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Speaker 1: running laps around the practice field. He's rejoined practice. From

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Speaker 1: what I've seen, it looks pretty good. Of course, it

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Speaker 1: always remains to be seen. When he's actually in they're

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Speaker 1: getting toussed around by some defensive linemen. But I think

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of hope that he will be able

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Speaker 1: to return on Saturday. And then Cooper Cup and Michael

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Speaker 1: Brocker's like he said on the on the COVID list,

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Speaker 1: Cups should be coming off any day as long as

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Speaker 1: he continues progressing like he was, and Michael Brocker should

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Speaker 1: be off that list by the week. But they're confidence

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Speaker 1: that he'll be back to the game as well. Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: I know it's not a huge part of it, but

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Speaker 1: I just I admire guys that play as long as

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Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth and he's thirty nine, I mean, is he

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Speaker 1: I thought that was going to be it for him

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Speaker 1: first of all, and I think it was kJ Wright

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Speaker 1: that actually hit him and injured his knee in the

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Speaker 1: first go around in week ten. But do you get

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Speaker 1: the sense that he is still wanting to play and

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Speaker 1: you think he's going to be back next year? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Wild I mean, the guy's thirty nine, and do you

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Speaker 1: even think, like thirty nine, how is he still his

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Speaker 1: body able to move, let alone recovering like six weeks,

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Speaker 1: seven weeks from a major knee injury. I think Andrew

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Speaker 1: Whitworth is going to go until his body absolutely tells him,

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Speaker 1: like you can't go anymore. This is year fifteen for him.

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Speaker 1: I could see him trying to go into year sixteen.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's a matter of what his body

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Speaker 1: telling him. And so far, so good. I mean, he's

507
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Speaker 1: been talking about or the retirement rumor has been bubbling

508
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Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen when the Rhymes was the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: and two seasons later, he's still there. Lindsay. The person

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Speaker 1: that we focus so much on is Aaron Donald here

511
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Speaker 1: for obvious reasons, but Leonard Floyd has had a really

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Speaker 1: good season, and he's been the one actually that has

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Speaker 1: been the one that's been racking up the sacks against

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and the Seahawks this year. How good has

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Speaker 1: he been. He's been phenomenal. And the thing about Aaron

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Speaker 1: Donald is, you know, thirteen and a half stacks this season,

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Speaker 1: but the stats don't tell the story of what he

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Speaker 1: contributes to this team. I mean, every opponent had to

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Speaker 1: game plan specifically around Aaron Donald. They have to account

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Speaker 1: for where he is every single snap, because if you

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Speaker 1: lose track of him for just a second, he will

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Speaker 1: destroy your quarterback. You know. So every he's leader of

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Speaker 1: the defense by example, obviously hiss and spectacular, but it's

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Speaker 1: really that there's a place that maybe you don't see

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Speaker 1: up here in the stat sheet that has meant the

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Speaker 1: most of this Rams defense. Lindsay. We were just talking

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Speaker 1: to your ESPN colleague Nick Wagner last week as we

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Speaker 1: previewed the Seahawks game against the forty nine Ers. In

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Speaker 1: that conversation, we asked about Robert Sala, their defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: potentially moving on his head coach. Your guys's defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Staley also part of those conversations. Now, Wagner expected

532
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Speaker 1: Salah to be gone. Where are you on Staley? You know,

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Speaker 1: it's really interesting. Um, I think it's a little bit

534
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Speaker 1: more difficult in the NFL for a defensive coordinator to

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Speaker 1: get a head coaching job after one season. I think

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Speaker 1: it's happened five times since two twelve, so it does.

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Speaker 1: It can certainly happen. But I would be a little

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Speaker 1: bit surprised, although there are there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: head coach openings, but I would be a little bit

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Speaker 1: surprised to see him get get the job this year. Now,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised at all if he spends one

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Speaker 1: more year with the Rams and then moving on to

543
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Speaker 1: be a head coach. I mean, he definitely certainly has

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Speaker 1: the makeup of it his defense. I know people will say, well,

545
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: he has Aaron Donald and Jelen Ramsey, so of course

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Speaker 1: they're good. But he has got everybody around those guys,

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00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: a ton of no name players to really perform beyond

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Speaker 1: their standards or perhaps what people thought they would perform.

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Speaker 1: It is what I really should be saying. And not

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Speaker 1: only that, but I had spoke to so many people

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Speaker 1: who have played for Staley in the past and currently

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Speaker 1: play for him, and he seems to have a real

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Speaker 1: way of connecting with every single player on the roster,

554
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Speaker 1: no matter what their background, whatever, no matter how they

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00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: need to be coached, he finds the way to connect

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Speaker 1: with them. So it sounds like he's in really great

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Speaker 1: leadership qualities too. She is ESPN ram supporter Lindsay theory. Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much. We really appreciate the time. Thanks so much.

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00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 1: I was going to ask her that, you know, and

560
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: she answered the question. But yeah, there's obviously something very

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00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: special about Brandon Staley. He got in the league. He

562
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: did not start coaching in the NFL until just four

563
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Speaker 1: years ago, and now all of a sudden you're being,

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Speaker 1: you know, considered a head coaching candidate. And he comes

565
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Speaker 1: in and in the first year just entirely turns it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got a couple of good pieces. But I remember

567
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: Clayton talking about this at the beginning of the year.

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00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I know who Jalen Ramsey is and

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Speaker 1: I know who Aaron Donald is. But yeah, and it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, putting it a little bit simplistically,

571
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Speaker 1: but still, yeah, there he's getting these guys like John Johnson.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was a terrible safety and he's playing

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Speaker 1: well this year. So um, yeah, it's it's it's pretty

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Speaker 1: amazing what that guy has done. I mean, he he

575
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Speaker 1: was coaching at like Carol College. I think he's like

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Speaker 1: thirty seven, thirty eight years old. He started in twenty

577
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Speaker 1: seventeen under Fangio with Denver Oh. I was actually in Chicago, Chicago, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's why. Um, you know, he brought Leonard

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Speaker 1: Floyd with him. So it's it's amazing what he has done.

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Speaker 1: And obviously he has that it factor. Yeah, so we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I would be surprised if he got a head coaching job.

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Speaker 1: But still it's amazing what he's done. It is very

583
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: quick ascension, but I mean what he's been able to

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Speaker 1: do them this year. Speaking of the Rams defense, we

585
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: all know about Aaron Donald, we all know he's one

586
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: name to watch. There is another defender though, that Seahawks

587
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: fans should be more worried about. We'll ask Ray Roberts

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Speaker 1: about that. Next. This is the Huddle, presented by Bickford

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Speaker 1: four every Thursday from noon to two on seven ten ESPN,

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Speaker 1: Seattle welcome back into the huddle. We are going in

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Speaker 1: the trenches, joined now by Ray Roberts. Ray, how are

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Speaker 1: you considering what's gone on today? I'm making it that Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: tell me about it all right, Ray, Well, we appreciate

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Speaker 1: you joining us now. I'm looking at this Rams defensive line,

595
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: and what I've noticed is that it's a good idea

596
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: to block Aaron Donald would highly recommend it. Ten out

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Speaker 1: of ten, please do that. But it's given Leonard Floyd

598
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Speaker 1: some great opportunity. He's got five sacks alone of Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: which is almost half of his total for the year.

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Speaker 1: Is this just a situation where hey, it's gonna have

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Speaker 1: to happen, get rid of the ball? I mean, how

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Speaker 1: do you also protect Wilson against Floyd when you're double

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Speaker 1: teaming Aaron Donald. Yeah. So I went back and watched

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Speaker 1: the first game last night, and what I see is,

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Speaker 1: and I watched some of the second game too, is

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Speaker 1: that Aaron Donald in the first game pretty much had

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Speaker 1: a zero stat line if you looked at the stat book,

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Speaker 1: But that didn't tell the whole story. He was so

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Speaker 1: disruptive that it was creating opportunities for Floyd. So they

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Speaker 1: ran a lot of tackle in games where the tackle

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Speaker 1: is basically like a pick and roll in basketball. So

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Speaker 1: the tackle is picking the inside hip of the Aaron

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Speaker 1: Donald's picking the inside hip of the tackle of our

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle, and then Floyd is looping back inside. And

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00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: so when when Donald's able to get to that hip,

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00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: it puts everybody in no man's land, so you can't

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Speaker 1: recover in a way to get back to Floyd coming

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Speaker 1: back to the inside and getting a sack. And so

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Speaker 1: I think if if Seattle really wants to show up

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00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: what they're doing with the offensive line, they need to

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Speaker 1: really work on those and on passing off those games.

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Speaker 1: And when Aaron Donald does work those games, you have

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Speaker 1: to not just use your hands to punch him over

624
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: to the tackle, you have to use your feet to

625
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: deliver him to the tackle so that then you can

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Speaker 1: get off to get Floyd looking back inside. And also

627
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: the same things we're kind of happening in the running game,

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00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: not as much of the games, but the offensive line

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Speaker 1: needs to get a little bit more movement. There was

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00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: a little there was a lot of stalematings, so you

631
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: just kind of everyone's just kind of pushing against each

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Speaker 1: other at the offensive line and at the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: and so I think if they get a little bit

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Speaker 1: more drives in the running game and just be a

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00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: little bit cleaner with those uh line stunts, I think

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Speaker 1: Russell will have a better chance to do some damage

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Speaker 1: throwing the ball. Ray, What are you seeing out of

638
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Speaker 1: the running backs? What do you like going into the playoffs?

639
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: I thought Alex Collins, I mean, the first time time

640
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: they played the Rams, he was just off the streets,

641
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: as we put it. But um, he looked like he

642
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: had a little bit of shake there. But you know,

643
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: what are you saying from Carlos Hide obviously didn't play

644
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: last week, but Chris Carson from this season? What would

645
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: you like to see as far as the combination goes

646
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: with the running backs? Yeah, well, however the combination goes,

647
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think, you know, Carlos, Alex and U

648
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: and Penny they bring something all different to that to

649
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: that second back end role. But I think that you know,

650
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: they've been keeping Chris on kind of a pitch count

651
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: all the season long. Every game he's played. I think

652
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: he's averaging somewhere between like fourteen and fifteen carries and

653
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: arouse sixty to seventy yards a game. Uh, And they

654
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: were pretty consistent with that the whole time he was playing.

655
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: But at this point, I think it'd be nice to

656
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: kind of crank that up to like, you know, twenty

657
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, twenty two carries U In the playoffs, the

658
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: Rams average about three point eight yards to carry they

659
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: give up, which is you know, people will say like, wow,

660
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: that's a really good run defense, but that's closer to

661
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: four yards than it is the three yards, So there's

662
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: yards to be game there. I like the I like

663
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: the patience that Carlos plays with. I like to speed

664
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: that Penny can give us. So we just haven't been

665
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: able to really see him get the volume of carries

666
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: uh to show us where he is at this point.

667
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: And then with Alice Collins coming in, man he is

668
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: just every time they've called on him, he's been able

669
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: to produce. And so it's good to have a guy

670
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: like that in the corner. Ray. When you talk about

671
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: the stalemate that's going on, uh, do you think that

672
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: that is a moment where they need to stay patient

673
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: with the run game? Uh? Do you think that they

674
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: get away with it too too quickly or do you

675
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: think that maybe some teams. Some years, they change, they evolve.

676
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're you're a ground and pound team like they

677
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: were in twenty eighteen and nineteen bringing in the jumbo

678
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 1: package with George Fan Or are they a team that

679
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: runs better from lighter eleven person scenel or spread or

680
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: spread out formations. That's what seemed to be working better

681
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: in this in the fourth quarter, I was curious what

682
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: your what your thought on that was? Yeah to me, Jake, like,

683
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: I think this team has the UH, the playmakers and

684
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: all the different levels that they don't have to be

685
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: the ground and pound like they you know, have been

686
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: in the past, and they don't have to be the

687
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: offense we saw in the first five or six weeks

688
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: of the season. I think they're capable of having a

689
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: very balanced attack like we've talked about all year. When

690
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: they've been able to marry the UH, the the run

691
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: game to the passing game, they've been more effective. If

692
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: you look at the game last week, I think it

693
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: was maybe four minutes left in the fourth quarter before

694
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: they ran the ball twice in a row. So like that,

695
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: that doesn't allow the offensive line to get any counter

696
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: rhythm in the run game. It doesn't allow the like

697
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: there was a play where, um, Chris Carson missed a

698
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: cutback and it would have been held, hit it head

699
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: on the goal post, but then they didn't run it.

700
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: They he never saw that that run again for like

701
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: you know, half of the quarter and so like so

702
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: you don't get to really like go like, Okay, that

703
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: thing was open the next time, I'm gonna look back there,

704
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: because you never know when it's gonna come back, and

705
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: so I think that kind of messes them up as

706
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: it relates to the personnel. Like I'm however, however, the

707
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: running game needs to be effective. If we need to

708
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: have you know, heavy tight ends and run it that way,

709
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that. If we need to spread them out,

710
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: or we got to throw it to run it, I'm

711
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: cool with that, just as long as as long as

712
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 1: they're able to create some some rhythm with the run

713
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: game and the passing game together. So like like we've

714
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: been saying all year, it doesn't feel like there's two

715
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: separate game plans going on where it's like, oh, right,

716
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 1: we got this running back, let's hand him the ball

717
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: this time, and or you know what I'm saying, So

718
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: the personnel to me, um, you know, I think the

719
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: way Chris runs, I think spread them out would probably

720
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: be better because then you kind of always have the run,

721
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: the pass and play, and so they have to defend,

722
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, they have to think about more things. But

723
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: but definitely with the offensive line has to play a

724
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: cleaner game in the past game. And then in the

725
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: run game, they can't just grab and try to twist

726
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: and turn with their body. They got to really drive

727
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: their legs and use their feet to get some movement.

728
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 1: You gotta love Dwayne Brown. Uh. I was thinking He's

729
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: the one guy who I really thought that they should

730
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: have maybe, you know, given some rest to m Apparently

731
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: he wanted to play because he almost got in a

732
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: fight in the kneel down at the very end of

733
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: the game. And I just loved his, you know, sort

734
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: of enforcer attitude out there. He just means so much

735
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: to that offensive line. Yeah, he does, man to me.

736
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: He you know, when Marshawn Lynch came, it just kind

737
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: of changed, like the attitude and the swagger of the

738
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: whole team. Well when when Dwayne came, it may not

739
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: have changed the swagger of the whole team, but it

740
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: definitely changed the swagger of the offensive line rule, I

741
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: think before we had too many guys that were, you know,

742
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: maybe not ready to step up and be LEAs like Britain.

743
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: Those guys they just probably wanted that place in their

744
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: careers and to kind of do that. But Dwayne came in,

745
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: you know, Dwayne came in with a resume and uh,

746
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: and he came in with an attitude and he came

747
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: in with his professionalism and his way to dominate. And

748
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: so I think that that's a great thing. And speaking

749
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: of getting fights at the Mildown, I got into a

750
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: fight um against Virginia Tech at the Mildown when you

751
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: were beating them. And I got into a fight with

752
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears on Thanksgiving a game when we're when

753
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: we're beating them and just kneeling and killing the clock. Casey,

754
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: dude all the way to the locker room. I don't

755
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: know why. I always Thanksgiving Day on Thanksgiving Day, both

756
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: both Dave and I. When I when I heard that

757
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: about Dwayne Brown, I was like yes, and then we

758
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: had to immediately No, kids, don't fight, but you might

759
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: want to see from an offensive like I'm not asking

760
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: anybody to go down the street and like punch the

761
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: kid in the face. But you have the pads and

762
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: you're in between the white lines and if rep threes

763
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: and there's coaches and stuff, and you have to throw

764
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: a punch. Hey, throw a punch. That's all I got

765
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: to say. Yeah, sometimes sometimes it costs you a few

766
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, but you know it. And if you married,

767
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: your wifeles meet you at the door and say, let

768
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: let somebody else take one for the team. But you know,

769
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: I've been there. I've been there, done that. You know

770
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But the smart thing is I learned

771
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: really quickly that I liked my freedom too much to

772
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: take that same attitude off the field. So yeah, the field,

773
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: that's wall foot fine, and keep it moving. When you're

774
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: off the field, they put you behind those things they

775
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: call bars, and so I'm not up. Yeah, great, what's

776
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: your lifetime? Find them out? Do you know? I know mine?

777
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: Do you? Uh? Well? Shoot, I got just in the

778
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: Raider fight alone. It was fourteen grand and I got

779
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: kicked out of probably five or six more games beyond that.

780
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: So those use it about five seven grand apiece, way

781
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: less than Rayne. I got two fines, one for twelve

782
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: five the other for twenty five hundreds, so you're way

783
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: ahead of Yeah, when we were. When I was in Detroit,

784
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: it was the last play of the game, we threw

785
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: an interception and the Vikings say, always, John Tierling, you's

786
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: always teach their dlaman to go after the quarterback. And

787
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: so then John Randall was going out to the quarterback

788
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: and he was already out of bounds, and so I

789
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: just ran punched him right in the face, and then

790
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: we got into a big fight, and then I got its.

791
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: Two seconds left in the game, I got kicked out

792
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: of the game. So that was automatic, like five thousand

793
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: dollars fun. So we fly back to Detroit. I rolled

794
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: up into my place. I opened the door and all

795
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: five foot four, my wife is standing there and she

796
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: just put her finger in my face and said, let

797
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: someone else take one for the team. That's the last time.

798
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: And that's exactly who you listen to, exactly right, all

799
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: right he is. Ray Roberts hosted the Seahawks pre and

800
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: postgame show. Not gonna be any fights on that one,

801
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: but there will be some really good analysis, So make

802
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: sure you tune in this Saturday. Thanks so much, right,

803
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: you guys, have a great one. All right now, guys,

804
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: I thought Ryan was one of the best stories from

805
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: the Seahawks secondary this year, but there's another one that

806
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: we all loved, and that's been the season we've seen

807
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: from dj Reid. He's going to join us next to

808
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: talk about that. Don't go anywhere from noon to two,

809
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: presented by Thick four. Welcome back into the huddle with

810
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jay Keats, and Stacy Ross. We're getting you

811
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Speaker 1: guys ready for wild Card weekend. Seahawks gonna host the

812
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: La Rams for their third meeting of the year in

813
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: the first game of the playoffs. It'll happen on Saturday,

814
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: one forty pm is kickoff. Not sure yet which quarterback

815
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,479
Speaker 1: is gonna be under center for the Rams. We're gonna

816
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: be talking a bit more of that when we take

817
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: a listen to Sean McVeigh coming up at one fifteen

818
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: from his press conference. We're gonna be joined in just

819
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes by Seahawks defensive back DJ Reid,

820
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: so let's talk about him right before he gets here.

821
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: Both Jake and Dave. Dj Reid made his debut for

822
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: Seattle in Week eight, and Jake has already mentioned this.

823
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: Dave but a really good year from John Schneider. That's

824
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: kind of flown under the radar because DJ Reid was

825
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: a guy that he claimed off of waivers San Francisco,

826
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: hoping he'd be able to slip through after suffering a tornpack.

827
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: And the belief is that John Schneider knew that it

828
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: would take a while for him to get right, but

829
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: that when he came on he at five foot nine,

830
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: would still be able to play outside corner. Yeah. Well,

831
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: John's had a great year if you ask me, I mean,

832
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: look who's he missed on? Philip Dorset. Yeah, I mean

833
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: he got hurt, but you traded him, huh said yeah, Fenny,

834
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: you got Dune lap right, So um, you know that

835
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: to me. And the other thing too is I think

836
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: Fenny might have lit a fire underneath Ethan Posic so

837
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: to get him going and you know, kind of grabbing

838
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: that job at center by the throat. So yeah, it's

839
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: it's been a really good year for John. I mean

840
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: he's just and look at the draft choices, I mean

841
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: other than Darryl Taylor, and everybody keeps dwelling on that, like,

842
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: oh so disappointing. Disappointing, man, you got two potential All

843
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: Pro guys with Damian Lewis and Jordan Brooks. And look,

844
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks has hardly been on the field and he's

845
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: making plays all over the place. Did a football one

846
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: on one thing on him yesterday. So and I think

847
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: I've talked about him a couple of times this year,

848
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's been a really good year for John.

849
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: He's gotten almost every player involved, and it's yeah, and

850
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: this is one of them. I mean, this is one

851
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: of the great gets. And I'm sure the Niners are

852
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: not happy watching him run around the field, and he's

853
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: been just a total surprise and a really pleasant one. Jake,

854
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: You've been adamant that national critics are wrong to be

855
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: doubting the Seahawks defense against the Rams offense this week. Yeah,

856
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: I have been. I've got respect for John Wolford, as

857
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: Dave Lyman said, but I don't fear him, and I

858
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: don't think that anybody should be fearful of John Wolford.

859
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: And the best thing that John Wolford had, which Lindsey

860
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: Theory came on and said, was hit the element of surprise.

861
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: No one knew that John Wolford could run like that.

862
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: No one knew that Sean McVeigh was going to call

863
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: design quarterback runs for him. Now you see it. You

864
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: know you can you you can prepare for that, and

865
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: so I believe that that is the best thing that

866
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: could have happened for the Seahawks, And now they have

867
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: a chance to really prepare for those things. And when

868
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: you have a player like DJ Reid who has been

869
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: as solid as he's been on the outside at five nine,

870
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: not just in coverage, but also in the run team

871
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: as well, Dave, I mean you have to be fired

872
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: up by the way that he has been such a

873
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: willing tackler as well. Yeah, well, and you love that

874
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: in corners. But and Shaquille's really good too. I mean,

875
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: he will stick his nose in there. So but yeah,

876
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: this is uh, this has been a really good one.

877
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: Not a big guy, um and I want to talk

878
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: to him about the return game as soon as we

879
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: get him in here. But um, yeah, he's just been

880
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: a really good addition. And again, that's a John Schneider

881
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: special right there. And I know him and John Lancher

882
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: are good friends and everything, so I'll bet you he's

883
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: been giving him a hard texting him. Guess who I

884
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: just claimed off. Won't believe it. DJ read By the way,

885
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: Shaks just wrapped up practice, will join us momentarily talking

886
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: about the Seahawks defense, you know, as a whole. I

887
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: want to get back to Brooks. I know we're going

888
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: to be talking about the secondary a little bit more,

889
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: but I was interested in you saying you think he

890
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: could be an all pro. Obviously it wouldn't be this year.

891
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: Those have already been done but are close to being announced.

892
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: But so you think when you look at what you've

893
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: seen from Brooks this year, you see someone that is

894
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: that is going to be a star. Oh yeah, I

895
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: mean he has got it all. And this is the thing.

896
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: I talked about two different plays. One was from the

897
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: first meeting with the Rams where he picked up a

898
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: deep crosser and that forced a sack that Jamal Adams

899
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: got a strip sack because he picked up the deep crosser.

900
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: He didn't do that in college. He was not asked

901
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: to do that. We talked to him the other day

902
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, being in the Big twelve, there

903
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: was lots of running quarterbacks. I was up near the

904
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, you know, and neither spying or playing

905
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: man to man and didn't really drop into his own

906
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: and he was a running back really coming into college

907
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: and became a linebackers. He understands these concepts. He did

908
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: it against Arizona in the first game. He picked up

909
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: a deep crosser, and he's doing things that veterans aren't doing.

910
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: And I almost compared him to the Lofa Tatupu in

911
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: his rookie year. But you know, Lofa was really next level.

912
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: I mean, he really understood the game. And I think

913
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: that that Jordan is getting there and you know, not

914
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: quite as fast. But also he's only playing in you know,

915
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the snaps thirty percent. The other day

916
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: it was seventy three percent, and I think he's had

917
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: over seventy percent a couple of times. All right, And

918
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: joining us right now, right off the Seahawks practice field

919
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: is cornerback DJ read DJ, how are you? I'm doing

920
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: really good? How are you good? Thank you? DJ. It

921
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: has been phenomenal to see what you've been able to

922
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: do for this defense. You had to sit out a

923
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: couple of weeks recovering from that torn pack, and you know,

924
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 1: we talk a lot about what Carlos Dunlap has brought

925
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: and what Jamal Adams has brought. But I think it's

926
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: worth mentioning that a lot of this defensive turnaround has

927
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: also been better play in the secondary, and we've seen

928
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: a lot of that from you. How have you felt

929
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: being on the field as part of this unit. Does

930
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: it feel like the energy is different? I mean, how

931
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: does it feel in the building? Well, first, thank you

932
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: for your acknowledgement. I appreciate that, and honestly, you know,

933
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: it's been fun. It's been a journey, but I feel

934
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: like we're jailing together, especially at the right time because

935
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: playoffs are this Saturday. And you know, Carlos Dunlack, he's

936
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: a tremendous player. He's definitely, you know, stepped up big

937
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: time in big games. Sam and Jamal Adams. He's starting

938
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: to you know, jail, he's getting used to the defense

939
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: and he's making splash plays out there. And with me,

940
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: you know, I just want to come in and just

941
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: do my job and just be a great teammate. And

942
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: I feel like all of us we bring that swag

943
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: and I just feel like we bring that confidence and

944
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: the biggest thing for our successes. You know, we've been

945
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,959
Speaker 1: communicating more on the field when we communicate. I feel

946
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: like nobody could beat us, nobody could, you know, play

947
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: with us. So we got to just keep communicating and

948
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: keep having fun. So, DJ, I've been pounding the table.

949
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: Not that it would matter coming from me, but I've

950
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: been pounding the table of let DJ Reid return the football, kickoffs,

951
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: paunts everything. You had the forty nine yard return against

952
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: the Rams in Week ten, and you've been doing a

953
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: good job. I talked to Pete Carroll every week and

954
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, DJ Reid's gonna break one. I'm telling you, DJ,

955
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: and He's like, yeah, I agree. But you know, they

956
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: kind of cut that back a little bit for you.

957
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: Is that because you're starting now or are you campaigning

958
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: to get more returns? Yeah? I believe that's the reason

959
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: they don't want to overuse me, and obviously they don't

960
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: want me to get injured. So you know, in the beginning,

961
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: I was doing kick return and punt return and now

962
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: that I'm starting at corner, you know, I'm still at

963
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: punt return, but they don't want me to do kick

964
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: return right now. So you know, I'm just going with

965
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: the flow whatever the coaches want. But obviously, you know,

966
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: I do love returning, but they definitely just want to

967
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: play a smart I believe, you know, DJ. One of

968
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: the questions I wanted to ask was, what is the

969
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: transition like for you? We're coming from San Francisco to Seattle.

970
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: I mean Robert Sala obviously, uh, kind of a disciple

971
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks scheme, of Pete Carroll's scheme, but I'm

972
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 1: sure there were many differences as well. How how much

973
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: of a transition was that for you if at all? Yeah, Well, honestly,

974
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: the transition was actually smooth. Like you said, Salid came here,

975
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: came from here, so you know, the defensive scheme is

976
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: really similar. Obviously there's a little tweaks that are a

977
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: little different, but you know, the first game when I

978
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: played the Niners, I was playing nickel Um. For the

979
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: most part, everything was similar. Obviously different play called, but

980
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: the same things that they run. So, I mean it

981
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: was pretty smooth. And playing cornerback is you know, smooth

982
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: as well. It's the same scheme, So the transition was

983
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: really good. Hey, DJ, tell us about preparing for a

984
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: guy that's kind of a mystery in Woolford. I mean,

985
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: we're not sure if we're going to get which quarterback,

986
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: But kind of interesting guy. They didn't the last you

987
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: know team that played in Arizona didn't have any tape

988
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: on And what are you seeing from from this guy

989
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: just one game in the NFL. Yeah, honestly, I'm in press.

990
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: I mean I watched, you know, the first game which

991
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: they played last week against the Cardinals, and the first

992
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: thing I noticed that jumped out on film was how

993
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: quick and fast he is. You know, they said forty

994
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: wise he ran a four eight, but on film he

995
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: looks much faster than that, and he was doing a

996
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: great job extending plays. He's very confident. You know, the

997
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 1: first drive you threw a pick. Later on in that game,

998
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: he threw the same route and he actually completed it

999
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: for a first down. So you could tell that he

1000
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: doesn't lack confidence. He's playing like, Hey, this is my

1001
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: team and this is my opportunity, so I'm gonna take

1002
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: advantage of it. So I have a lot of respects

1003
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: for him just from watching that one game. Now, DJ,

1004
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: one of the things that I stood out to me

1005
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: about your play is is that you are out there

1006
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: to prove a point. You are not out there to

1007
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: play and just line up and just do your job.

1008
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: You are out there to prove a point. Is what

1009
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: kind of attitude do you bring to the the field? Yeah, man,

1010
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean I just have a chip on my shoulder,

1011
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: just just from you know, from an early age. I

1012
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: have a big chip on my shoulder, to be quite

1013
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: honest with you. Then you know, obviously we have to

1014
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: do our job. But I tell you know, I tell

1015
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: the guys too, I challenge him. You know, do your

1016
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: job with purpose, like because anybody could just do their

1017
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: job and be mediocre. But if you do your job

1018
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: with purpose, with intent, um be in detailed, knowing what's

1019
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: coming before it's coming, um, running to the ball, you know,

1020
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: visualize yourself making those plays, getting interceptions. You know what

1021
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's legendary. So I just want to be legendary.

1022
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: I don't want my teammates to be legendary legend that's

1023
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: Baker's field toughness, right there. Man, Right, all right, DJ,

1024
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: we really really appreciate you joining us. That is cornerback

1025
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: DJ read good luck this weekend we'll be watching. Thank you.

1026
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. Cool cool voice too, he could

1027
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: be he could be a radio guy, I think. So

1028
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 1: you can do anything you can playat kicks, interceptions. Well,

1029
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys a lot like Ugo Amadi.

1030
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: When he gets the ball in his hand, it's like

1031
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: he becomes super charged. So anyway, yeah, he's just really

1032
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: really a good pickup. A good job by Schneider. All Right,

1033
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: we have some Rams roster news. You guys are gonna

1034
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: want to hear. Don't go anywhere. That's next. This is

1035
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: the Huddle presented by Bickford Ford every Thursday from noon

1036
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: to two on seven ten ESPN Seattle. Welcome back into

1037
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps and Stacy Rosk

1038
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: and you guys ready for the Seahawks wildcard matchup against

1039
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: the La Rams. Third meeting this year for these two teams,

1040
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: and we have some roster news from the Rams. According

1041
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Rams have announced that they

1042
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: have officially activated wide receiver Cooper Cup from the reserve

1043
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen list, meaning he is able to play Saturday

1044
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: versus the Seahawks. His status and Michael Brocker's status was

1045
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: in question. Both are on the COVID list. No update

1046
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: yet for Brockers, so TBD for him, although it is

1047
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: trending as though he'll play with the team, saying if

1048
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: both players were asymptomatic, they would be activated, and the

1049
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: last time McVeigh was asked about it, both were So

1050
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: we've seen it from Cup, I'm assuming we're going to

1051
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: see it from Brockers. Uh, what's your first reaction to

1052
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: this news day? Well, Jared to me, and Jared Goff

1053
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: and Cooper Cup are like Jake Heaps and Ronnie Simony

1054
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: or what was this first name, George? Yeah, I mean

1055
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: it's like those two guys have just a connection and

1056
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, you see the you know, ten targets, twenty

1057
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: targets in one game against Miami, thirteen targets against Tampa.

1058
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: So I mean he's you know, again, we don't know

1059
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: if we're going to see Goff or Wolford, but he

1060
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: is a very very good what would you say, Jake

1061
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 1: just a precise route runner? Yeah, he is exactly that.

1062
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: He is a very precise route runner. He's very reliable. Um,

1063
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: you know, when you talk about Tyler Lockett in his

1064
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: ability to make tough catches, Cooper Cup is right there

1065
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: as well. And if there's anybody that ugo Amati has

1066
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: struggled with it. Ugo Amati has played very, very good

1067
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 1: football season when he is matched up in Manda man coverage.

1068
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: But Cooper Cup is the one guy that gets Ugo

1069
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: Amati and the reason why is because he doesn't give

1070
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 1: you obvious tells and and Dave, you reference precise route

1071
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: running what he's able to do at the top of

1072
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: his routes. You can't. You can't fully know for sure

1073
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: if he's gonna break in, if he's gonna break out,

1074
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: And for Ugo a Mahdi, it's more of reactionary rather

1075
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: than anticipating. And that's what Ugo has done so well

1076
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: is knowing the concepts and knowing what's coming, but also

1077
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: being able to benefit off of the tells that receivers

1078
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: give him. Cooper Cup doesn't really give you that, Dave,

1079
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: You've had some good stuff to say about Wolford. He

1080
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: may very well play. On Saturday, mcvagh and cut four

1081
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: saying he won't announce the starting quarterback this week. You know,

1082
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: just for your guys edification, I'm not going to make

1083
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: an announcement and you know on who's starting and who's not,

1084
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to answer that question this week

1085
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: so that I say no. He made another I'm assuming

1086
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: facetious comment that we're going to find out at one

1087
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: thirty nine. Who's starting game starts at one forty. By

1088
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: the way, now in actives are going to come out

1089
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: in ninety minutes before. So what I actually think could

1090
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: be a possibility I'm not ruling it out, is that

1091
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: golf is dressed in there as only an emergency option

1092
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: to avoid any long term damage. But I think if

1093
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: he's seventy percent, they're playing him. Yeah, I don't know

1094
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: about the seventy. I always look at it this way.

1095
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: Of course I was a linebacker, but it was I

1096
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: always say, it's like a it's like a lock at

1097
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: raunch or lock at raunch, a rocket launch from Cape Canaveral.

1098
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: It's either a go or a no go. I mean

1099
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: you can't go out there. Yeah, I mean you you

1100
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: have to, and we saw what happened if you're if

1101
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: you're not that way um with Dunbar. Remember Quentin Dunbar

1102
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: in the in the Buffalo game. So yeah, I mean,

1103
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: and to me, that's that, that's what that's all about. Look,

1104
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: if you're a coach, you would rather not talk to

1105
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: anybody all week, Like if They do it because they

1106
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: have to because the NFL requires that coaches have to

1107
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: give out information, and you know, the share and that

1108
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: it's part of you know, it's mostly for the popularity

1109
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: of the sport and all that. But coaches don't want

1110
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: to talk about anything. They don't want to tell you anything,

1111
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: so you know, that's kind of how they go in

1112
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: and then you know that's everything else is just gravy

1113
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: correct and even when it's obvious, right, I mean you

1114
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: look at certain situations and and they don't want to

1115
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: reveal a thing. I mean, when you talk about Jamal Adams,

1116
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: I don't like the idea that they had that they

1117
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: elevated to Marius Randall. I hope that that is not

1118
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: a sign of what is to come here at the

1119
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: end of the week. But uh, you know, those are

1120
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: things that coaches like to keep everything close to the vest,

1121
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: and when they do have the opportunity. The only time

1122
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: that uh, you see this with with coaches not being

1123
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 1: not having to reveal things is at the college level.

1124
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: College level, the don't have to reveal injuries, they don't

1125
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: have to reveal what it is, they don't any of

1126
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: that stuff. And guess what they take full advantage of that,

1127
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 1: and they don't. How do you guys feel more or less?

1128
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 1: I feel more confident with Wolford playing. I know both

1129
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 1: of you have a lot of respect for his game.

1130
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: Both of you watch a ton of tape. I know

1131
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: both of you do. I watched this pass game against

1132
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and there was plenty of good. But I

1133
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: feel like the idea that he is better than Golf

1134
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: that some fans are putting out is a stretch. Yeah,

1135
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't. Ryan Clark said that yesterday that he thinks

1136
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 1: they're better with Wolford than jin Jared Goff. It's like,

1137
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: come on, I mean, I get we're trying to do

1138
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: the hot take thing, but he oh smokes, give me

1139
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: a break. I mean, the guy, you know, he's making

1140
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: thirty five million. I think this kid's making like whatever,

1141
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: the percentages of eight hundred grand or something. But I mean, look,

1142
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: it's different. The one thing about golf, they got him

1143
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: out on the edge, and I thought it was interesting.

1144
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: We talked about it after the game two weeks ago.

1145
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: It seems like a two months ago, but it was.

1146
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: You know, the game plan was to force him out

1147
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: to the edge. He can't make throws. On the run

1148
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: golf can't. He's not Russell Wilson. And he even tried

1149
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 1: to do his pirouette and he stumbled and almost fell down.

1150
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: So you know, he just can't. He can't do it. Yeah,

1151
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: you should laugh. Actually, we're all gonna laugh at all.

1152
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: Falling not funny. I mean I laugh it myself when

1153
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: I do it. Yeah, and that happens pretty often. Okay,

1154
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: that's enough. Well, listen guys. Steve Rabel, Seahawks play by

1155
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: play man, joining us. Next we'll ask him about a

1156
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: key to the game. This is the Huddle, presented by

1157
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: Bickford Ford every Thursday from noon to two on seven

1158
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: ten ESPN Seattle. Welcome back into the Huddle with Dave Wyman,

1159
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: Jay Keeps and Stacy Ross were joined right now by

1160
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: the voice of the Seahawks play by play man, Steve Rabel.

1161
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: Hey Raids, Hey, guys, how you doing good. Um, I'm

1162
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: just gonna go ahead and get started with the very

1163
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: uh I guess the easy question, which is we're gonna

1164
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: be talking about our blueprint coming up here at forty five,

1165
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: which is basically maybe like our number one key to

1166
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: the game. If you have to finish the sentence, the

1167
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: Seahawks win. If blank, what would be your key or

1168
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: what you'd put there? Well, I tempted to say if

1169
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: they score more points, but that probably that probably is

1170
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: not going to be sufficiently for Dave. I mean, he

1171
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: wants more explanation. That's about as good as it gets

1172
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: from Rabel. You know, you know, pretty basic on those things.

1173
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: Here's one that that I'm going to be talking about

1174
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: on the on our scouting report on Channel seven, uh,

1175
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: the day before the game, and that is patience. And

1176
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: uh that kind of came from listening to Russ and

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00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: listening to Pete and especially after the game. And I

1178
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: know you guys covered it a lot, but after the game,

1179
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: you know, Pete said, you know, I know you guys

1180
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 1: worry sometimes about how this turns out. But he said

1181
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: one of the things he said was, you know, we

1182
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: we kind of we were patient. We're not giving it

1183
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: to them. In other words, we're not turning the ball

1184
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: over in hopes of making a big play if the

1185
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: play is not there. And I think that's I think

1186
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: that's important. I think that they have found, you know,

1187
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: especially because the defense is playing well, I think they

1188
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: have kind of gone back to that formula that that

1189
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: that Pete has always believed, and I think they'd like

1190
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: to run the ball better. I think that'll be certainly

1191
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: helpful against the Rams. Um. You know, it might also

1192
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: be helpful if they try to play Jared Goff. I'd

1193
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: like to see him try to throw two weeks after

1194
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: thumb surgery. Um. I think that might work against them.

1195
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: And we're going to find out at one thirty nine

1196
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: on Saturday, and the kickoff is at one forty, so

1197
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, but I think patience and be prepared for

1198
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: this thing, just like it did back in week sixteen,

1199
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: to go into the fourth quarter before it's decided. The

1200
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: scary thing is raves. I mean you say, okay, you

1201
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: might see this Wolford guy and which I couldn't remember

1202
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: his name yesterday, I called him John Brishan. Yeah I don't.

1203
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 1: I don't know where that came from, but uh yeah,

1204
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean the guy's in a total known But the

1205
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: scary thing is you get back and go, okay, yeah,

1206
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: we beat this team their defense, and you look at them,

1207
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: and you look at their their coordinator who's thirty seven

1208
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: years old, and just turn this defense around and there's

1209
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: still number one. I they they bragged today in there,

1210
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: I was looking at their their report is like, actually,

1211
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: the defense has held opponents to sixteen point eight. So

1212
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: their number one at eighteen point eight. So obviously there

1213
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: were some you know, defensive scores against them that they

1214
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: didn't want to take credit for. So I'm like, man,

1215
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: it's it's even worse than you thought. I mean, this

1216
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: defense is just stifling and that to me, I mean,

1217
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: you worry about the quarterback. To me, it's more about

1218
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: the how the offense puts up any points on this team, right,

1219
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: And that's where the patience comes in. That's where you know,

1220
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: you kind of between the twenties, you probably you know,

1221
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: bang your heads against each other. You try to protect Russell.

1222
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: You give him an opportunity to get that ball out quickly,

1223
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: throw the ball in a hurry. And if then if

1224
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: they're going to come up and start clamping down on

1225
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: the receivers, then you use you know, the speed of Tyler,

1226
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: a double move by dk Uh to get deep and

1227
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: then you rainbow one up over the top. But I

1228
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: think the Rams are going to be careful of that.

1229
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: I think they feel like their front four can do

1230
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: a lot of damage. Uh and uh, that way they

1231
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: don't have to bring those safeties down into the box

1232
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: necessarily to stop the run. And I think it's going

1233
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: to be incumbent, uh for the Seahawks to be able

1234
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: to run the ball better. You don't have to get

1235
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards running the ball, but it

1236
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: would it would sure be nice, It sure would be nice. Raves. Uh.

1237
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: You know, the defense for the Rams has been talking

1238
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: quite a bit this week, I believe, in terms of

1239
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: their excitement to play the Seahawks and and uh, you know,

1240
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: talking about how you know Dk Metcalfe is hiding and

1241
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: that they shouldn't motion them away from Jalen Ramsey as

1242
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: a as a receiver and an offensive guy. Rabel, Uh

1243
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: what do you make of that? That that Dk, that

1244
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: the that they're trying to hide him from Ramsey? Oh

1245
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, hey, whatever it takes. If back in the

1246
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: old day, if you could run a sleeper play on him,

1247
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: have him stand on the sidelines and then step onto

1248
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: the field and run down fielding catch a touchdown, I

1249
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: have no problem with that. The idea is to make

1250
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: plays against their defense. Let them talk, let them let

1251
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: them say, hey, you guys are hiding us, or I

1252
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: saw Aaron Donald literally after the game against Kansas City

1253
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: when somebody asked him, you know you're going to play

1254
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: the Seahawks now in the playoffs, and he said, you

1255
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: know that's what we wanted. Okay, well you get your wish,

1256
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: and now you see you might be lifted as officially

1257
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: the number one defense after seventeen weeks of the twenty

1258
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: twenty season and the Seahawks since midway through the season

1259
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: are giving up fourteen points a game and or whatever

1260
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: it is. And you know, the Rams, they're not going

1261
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: to be terribly thrilled about facing our defense eithers I

1262
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: think that's what makes it a good game. You got

1263
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: two really good defenses here, two teams that really know

1264
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Speaker 1: each other, and you know, let let them talk and

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01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: then we'll decide it. On Saturday, Raids, I'm knocking on

1266
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: wood when I ask you this question. I want you

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01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: to know that both Jared Read and Jamal Adams didn't

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: practice yesterday. They're dealing with injuries. I'm going to guess

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01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: both our game time decisions, with Read being a little

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Speaker 1: more optimistic. If Seattle has neither on Saturday, can they

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Speaker 1: still beat the Rams? Well? I think they can. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think we've seen Ryan Neil play well in that

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01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: safety spot. I think he's gotten some experience this year.

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01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: He had to step in at a moment's notice early

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01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: in the season and made some big plays. So I

1276
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,479
Speaker 1: think that you know they're they're comfortable with him. You have,

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01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: obviously Quandre Diggs as the deep man back there, making

1278
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: sure that the secondary gets all the calls, that everybody

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01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: knows what they're doing. I think this is going to

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Speaker 1: be one of those games that we might not get to.

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01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: Whoever the quarterback is, whether it's going to be Walford

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01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: or Jared Off, you know they're going to be sure

1283
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: that they want to try to protect their guy to

1284
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: make sure he gets the ball out of his hands.

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01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: So I don't know that I'd be so concerned about

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01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: getting four or five sacks in the game. What I'd

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01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: be more concerned about, as the Seahawks defense, is to

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01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: help stop the run, and I think the Seahawks done

1289
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: a pretty good job. Brian Money if he had to

1290
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: go in there and start, I mean, there's three hundred

1291
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: and fifty pounds you got to try to move puts.

1292
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: The Seahawks linebackers Jordan Brooks, Bobby kJ they're playing lights

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Speaker 1: out right now, so I think we still have the

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Speaker 1: weapons defensively if we had to have a couple of

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Speaker 1: starters down. Yeah, you know, Money he was instrumental on

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Speaker 1: the safety they got against the Cowboys and then and

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Speaker 1: the goal line stand. So yeah, it's he's been he's

1298
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: been really good. But um yeah, yeah, Raves. You look

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01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: at the playoffs right now, and a few weeks ago,

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01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, I was looking at going you know, I

1301
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: think the Rams scare me the most. Then the Seahawks

1302
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: beat the Rams, I thought, okay, you know, but now,

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01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm back to that because you

1304
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: look at the other teams and you know there's Green

1305
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: Bay and New Orleans is where they would would likely

1306
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: end up. But man, I'm I'm all of a sudden,

1307
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: even without golf, I'm back to thinking that the Rams.

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01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: But maybe that's just because I'm an ex player and

1309
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: you always, you know, not fear, but most respect the

1310
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: your next opponent. Yeah, and and because they know these

1311
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: guys so well. I remember back in eighty four, and

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01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: I know most of you weren't born then, but back

1313
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: in eighty four, you know, the Seahawks beat the Raiders

1314
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: twice during a regular season, and Lo and Behold or

1315
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: was it eighty three? Eighty three? Eighty three beat him

1316
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: twice and Lo and Behold end up playing them in

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01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship Chuck's first year, and the Raiders, you know,

1318
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: beat Seahawks pretty good down in LA in the AFC

1319
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: Championship game. There's something about knowing your opponent that well.

1320
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: And again it's also going to come down to It's

1321
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: one thing to know your opponent. It's what's like Dave

1322
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: always talks about those those fly sweeps that the Rams

1323
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: have sort of made famous over the year, and it

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01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: took us forever to kind of really figure out how

1325
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: to defend it. And now we've gotten really, i think,

1326
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: pretty good at it. But it's one thing to know

1327
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do and know each other. It's

1328
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: something else to execute, you know, are you going to

1329
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: get off a block, are you going to turn the

1330
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: play back in at the point of attack? Are you

1331
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: going to make the tackle you're gonna wrap up? Are

1332
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: you gonna make that catch that's a tough catch between

1333
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: two defenders. It's all about execution, and we've been executing

1334
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: pretty well right now. I'm not saying the Rams haven't been.

1335
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: All I can do is look at what the Seahawks

1336
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: have been doing. You know, twenty points wins a football game.

1337
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: Fine execution is okay, you're not turning the ball over.

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01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm all in favor. He is the voice of the

1339
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: Seahawks play by play man Steve Rabel. Thanks Rabes. Okay, guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you, see you Saturday. Yeah all right, Well, this

1341
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: is how we wrap up the huddle every single Thursday.

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01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: Obviously today is a Wednesday edition. It's our blueprint to

1343
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: beating the Rams. That'll be next. This is the Huddle

1344
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: presented by Bickford Ford every Thursday from noon to two

1345
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: on ESPN Seattle. Welcome back to the Huddle with Dave Wyman,

1346
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: Jay Keeps, and Stacy Ross. We always end the huddle

1347
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: with our blueprint to beating that week's opponent. This one

1348
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: the LA Rams third meeting series is split so far.

1349
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: Seahawks obviously looking to get that second win in three

1350
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: weeks in advance to the divisional round. But what do

1351
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: they need to do to get by the Rams? So

1352
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: for the blueprint, I'll let each of us do just

1353
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: one or two things. Doesn't have to be too many

1354
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: keys to the game. I know you do this with Rabe,

1355
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,919
Speaker 1: so I won't let you use all your keys that day.

1356
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: But if my first one is going to be to

1357
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: do better on third down and to get off the

1358
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: field on defense on third down, what I do not

1359
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: want to see again are those constant completions to Cooper

1360
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: Cup on third down. And it would be a great

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01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: play by kJ Wright to blow up a screen. You'd

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01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: be on third and fourteen and then they'd get a

1363
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: pass completed and continued to convert and um. If they

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01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: were a better red zone offense, you'd be in real trouble. Thankfully,

1365
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: your defense had a great day limited them to just

1366
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: field goals. But I think you could do even better

1367
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: if you keep those completions cut by the way activated today.

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01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: What's your blueprint mine? I'm gonna stick with my old

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01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: standby and Pete loves talking about takeaways. My buddy Aaron

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01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: Levine from Q thirteen we do Seahawks Saturday night together.

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Speaker 1: In the postgame show, he tweeted out that the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: have one takeaway in the last six playoff games, and

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01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 1: that is true. I'm trying to remember which game it was,

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01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, I think it was the Detroit game. Maybe

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01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 1: that's the last time, Yeah, that they got a takeaway,

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01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,959
Speaker 1: So you know they I think they got a fumble recovery.

1377
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: If I'm not maybe maybe I'm mistaken on that. But yeah,

1378
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: they've not taken the ball away and it's I'm sorry

1379
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: one the one time was kJ Wright's interception against Is

1380
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 1: when it was so um, yeah, they got to get takeaways.

1381
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: I mean, this is something that has dried up over

1382
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: the last few weeks. And you know, they haven't gotten

1383
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 1: any of the you know, that's what they that's what

1384
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: they lived on last year. But you know both playoff

1385
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: games last year obviously didn't get a takeaway. So that's

1386
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: that's gonna be huge. And you know, you talk about

1387
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: sacks and things like that, you know that that's one thing.

1388
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: Those are big plays, no question to drive killer. But

1389
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: you know, the takeaways are what you know, this defense

1390
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: is playing really well together right now. But we'll take

1391
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: them and they're getting sacks, but we'll take them to

1392
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: the next level is taking the ball away. And that's

1393
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: what it'll make them dangerous in the playoffs. It certainly

1394
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: will make them dangerous. And how they can be dangerous

1395
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 1: and The question that's been out there the whole time

1396
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: is whether or not Jamal Adams is going to be playing,

1397
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: And right now, Jamal Adams in a press conference right

1398
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: now saying that there's no question in his mind that

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Speaker 1: he is playing this Saturday. Uh. He says, I'm a

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01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: savage man, I'm a warrior. So to be able to

1401
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: have that guy out there, to be able to have

1402
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 1: that that level of energy in that leadership that he

1403
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: provides to this team will be huge and it's a great,

1404
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: great confidence builder as you head into the weekend, no question.

1405
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: But I also think Offensively Rabel called it patience. I'm

1406
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: gonna call it weathering the storm. And you've got to

1407
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: be able to weather the storm. You've got to be

1408
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: able to weather, you know, some of the adverse times

1409
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: that are going to happen in the game, whether it's

1410
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: a three and out, whether it's you know, getting stopped

1411
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: during a drive or things aren't going well for you. Offensively,

1412
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: can you weather the storm? And they've shown two weeks

1413
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: in a row now that they can do that, and

1414
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be critical in this type

1415
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: of matchup. When you talk about Pete Carroll being comfortable

1416
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: in these slug fests and these slow starts, and not

1417
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: that you want them to happen, but that you're comfortable

1418
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 1: playing in that. I think that's going to be key

1419
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 1: to the game is if you do start slow, can

1420
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 1: you weather the storm and can you come out the

1421
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: other side of it and really start to explode and

1422
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 1: perform at the right time. That's what Russell in this

1423
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 1: offense has done so well over the last two games,

1424
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: and they need to be able to continue to do

1425
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: that if they want to stay in the playoffs and

1426
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,799
Speaker 1: beat this Rams team. But I'm I'm really hoping that

1427
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: the Seahawks can be better on third downs and that

1428
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: they can sustain drives when the time of possession, really

1429
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 1: get the ball moving up and down the field. Starting

1430
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 1: in the first half, even though Jake was quoting Jamal Adams,

1431
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: it gave me chills when when Jake said I'm a

1432
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: savage to hear Eric Horbacks did a little part of

1433
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 1: you just want to like just tackle him though, like test, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1434
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: I think Jamal Adams has to be one of the

1435
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 1: most competitive people I can remember covering, and that's including

1436
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: some pretty competitive guys. You're talking Richard Sherman in there.

1437
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: I mean, really anyone from that agent of boom Era Earl.

1438
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he is right up there as far as

1439
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: guys where you think. I'm not kidding. When I heard

1440
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: that he was on the field, um just for that

1441
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: one uh play that was the sack by Rashime Green,

1442
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: my first reaction. I don't know that this is true,

1443
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: but my first reaction was, I wonder if he's snuck

1444
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: by trainers and just went back out on the field

1445
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: and they had to take his helmet from him. Yeah.

1446
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: I know, I'm sure that's not what happened, but that

1447
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: was my first reaction because he's so insanely competitive. Well,

1448
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: and you looked at the look on his face while

1449
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: he was on the sidelines, and I thought, oh no, man,

1450
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: this means he's out for the playoffs. But you know,

1451
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 1: he loves it so much. It was just I think

1452
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: that he was out of that game and not able

1453
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: to you know, get out there with his teammates. So

1454
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe also he's thinking, man, I finally

1455
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: make it the playoffs and I'm not going to be

1456
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, really healthy. The thing is, I'm just glad

1457
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: his feet and his knees and his legs are all good,

1458
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, because that's really his game. And you know,

1459
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: if he has to maybe you know, not lay the lumber,

1460
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, make different kind of tackles. Who knows, as

1461
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: long as he can get there, you know, And that's

1462
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 1: where his feet are amazing. He is some He's like

1463
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: the Energays or Bunny, just constantly going, going, going, and

1464
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: same thing with his his verbal skills in the field

1465
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: as well. He's man. Now, I have a question for

1466
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: both of you, because I can't tell how I feel

1467
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: about it. My immediate reaction is it doesn't make a

1468
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: huge difference. But the Rams have a running back by

1469
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: committee approach this season. Cam Akers miss their last matchup,

1470
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: will presumably play this week. He came back last week

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Speaker 1: against the Cardinals, didn't have the biggest day, But you're

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Speaker 1: going to have a healthier running back situation this time around.

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Speaker 1: Is that something that you think is going to be

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Speaker 1: a big factor or do you think this is just

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Speaker 1: going to come down to what can Seattle's offense do

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Speaker 1: against the Rams defense? Well, I mean it certainly helps

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Speaker 1: them to because actually we're just talking about Jamal Adams.

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Speaker 1: He hurt Henderson, their second string quarterback, and they didn't

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Speaker 1: have Cam Akers and then they brought in Malcolm Brown,

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Speaker 1: who was their third stringer, So having him back that

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Speaker 1: certainly is you know, it'll be a challenge. Look, when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the running game, I'm always one to

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Speaker 1: think that the running back has a lot more to

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Speaker 1: do with it than the offensive line. And no offense

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Speaker 1: to offensive lineman. I'm just saying that, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you have the right back, he can hit a gap,

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Speaker 1: even if it's not a big one. So yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that's that's not great news, that's for sure. But you know,

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Speaker 1: as long as they're all staying in their run gaps

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Speaker 1: and you know, playing the I mean they're they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have something to say about that. But you know, as

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Speaker 1: long as they're playing together as they seem to be,

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Speaker 1: other than every once in a while you see him

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Speaker 1: look kind of lost, you know what doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 1: You're right, And the thing that I was so impressed

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Speaker 1: with in this last game the last time they've played,

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Speaker 1: was the Seahawks ability to control the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: and to control the edges. Right, Dave, you have said

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Speaker 1: time and time again, you see if flies, you see

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Speaker 1: someone on a fly sweep knock them out. And they

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01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily do that, but they were able to control

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Speaker 1: a lot of the edges. They were able to do that,

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01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: and there's in in Sean mcvay's zone schemes. They were

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Speaker 1: able to do it in the in the naked bootlegs. Uh,

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01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: that's really where this offense gets going. And so once again,

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Speaker 1: you have to force if John Woolford or Jared Gott

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Speaker 1: for that matter, U either one of those guys are playing,

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Speaker 1: you have to force them to plague uncomfortably in the

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Speaker 1: pocket and not get the cheap, easy completions out on

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Speaker 1: the edge, the cheap easy runs with the fly sweeps,

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Speaker 1: those are the things that they have to be able

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Speaker 1: to control. And if they can do that, I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, as kJ Wright said on the huddle a

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago, keep them in the killbox. That's where

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Speaker 1: this defense thrives. Now, one one last thing here. We

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Speaker 1: just have about a minute left, and so because we

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Speaker 1: didn't talk about any of these other postseason games, we're

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Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about the Seahawks. Obviously, like Dave said,

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Speaker 1: you always want to respect the opponent. This is a

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Speaker 1: tough defense and it can be a tricky offense, so

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Speaker 1: rooting for the Seahawks, obviously hoping that's not the upset.

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Speaker 1: I want both of you guys to choose one game

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Speaker 1: from wild Card Weekend your upset pick. You've got the Colts,

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Speaker 1: Brown's Ravens in the AFC as the underdogs there, and

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Speaker 1: then the Bears, Rams, and Buccaneers as the wild cards

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Speaker 1: in the NFC. If you have to pick one team

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Speaker 1: to upset, who are you going with? Dave? Well, I

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Speaker 1: sure hope it's Chicago, I really do. But I'll say

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Speaker 1: Washington over Tampa Bay. And that's maybe maybe foolish because

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Speaker 1: you're picking against Tom Brady in the playoffs. Yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like it. I think that, you know, they're an

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Speaker 1: inspired team, and you know, inspired by their great coach

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Speaker 1: and leader, and their their quarterback Alex Smith. So and

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Speaker 1: we'll see how you know, how much he plays. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I think it's asking too much for

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Speaker 1: Chicago to beat New Orleans, all right, Dave taken Washington, Jake, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Washington as well. Uh. In terms of

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Speaker 1: the surprise upset, I really do believe that you're talking

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Speaker 1: about just the NFC side, Is that right, It could

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Speaker 1: be either, but I think the NFC has some more

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Speaker 1: interesting ones. Yeah, to me, Washington is the one. I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Bears have what it takes to be

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Speaker 1: able to beat the Saints. Although I love that, I

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Speaker 1: really think that Washington if if their defense is as

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Speaker 1: dominant as what they've shown or what it's capable of,

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01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: and their pass rushers in particular, and they can get

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady to be uncomfortable, I think this could really

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Speaker 1: be a game that surprises a lot of people. So

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Speaker 1: that's the one that I'm going to pick. On the

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Speaker 1: NFC side, he is Jake Keeps and Dave Wyman. I'm

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Speaker 1: Stacy Ross. This has been the huddle on seven ten

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Speaker 1: ESPN Seattle,