Speaker 1: Bryce Shelby is a slender black man who is known
Speaker 1: around Denver for attending the racial justice protests with an
Speaker 1: assault rifle slung over his shoulder, which isn't illegal. Colorado
Speaker 1: is an open carry state. Bryce would often wear black
Speaker 1: Panther Party T shirts during demonstrations. He's agreed to meet
Speaker 1: with me in Denver. It's a February afternoon and it's
Speaker 1: bitterly cold. There's a fresh dusting of snow on the ground.
Speaker 1: Bryce is sitting down as I'm setting up. He's filling
Speaker 1: with his phone and we're talking. It's closes. So is
Speaker 1: there any questions I can answer for you? You You said
Speaker 1: you you're kind of like hearing names kind of brings
Speaker 1: people back, like kind of helps you to depreciate, yea,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Just the idea that um it was
Speaker 1: I guess it wasn't abou die, you know that was
Speaker 1: that said what he said to the to the officers.
Speaker 1: It just, you know what I mean, just hearing a
Speaker 1: certain name. Not that I'm trying to earn any buy
Speaker 1: or nothing like that, but you know, I'm mean, i'd
Speaker 1: cross certain In one of our earlier phone conversations, as
Speaker 1: I was arranging this interview, I had told Bryce something
Speaker 1: that surprised him. Zeb Hall wasn't an FBI informant. Until
Speaker 1: that phone conversation. Bryce had been certain zeb was the snitch.
Speaker 1: Bryce is interested in crossing off names because he's running
Speaker 1: a process of elimination. To this day, he's never figured
Speaker 1: out exactly why the FBI went after him. Did you
Speaker 1: think that was maybe, you know, part of what happened
Speaker 1: to you? Well, he was at one of those situations
Speaker 1: with Mickey. But we can get into it. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: about to get into it. I'm Trevor Aaronson from Western
Speaker 1: Sound and I Heart Podcasts. This is Alphabet Voice, Episode six,
Speaker 1: dumpster Fire. In the business world, aggressive investors will do
Speaker 1: what's called a roll up. They'll enter a distressed industry
Speaker 1: buy up as many competing companies as they can. Merge
Speaker 1: those companies together, that is, roll them up and then
Speaker 1: corner the market. Mickey's about to try his own version
Speaker 1: of a roll up for the FBI. He's already got
Speaker 1: one target, zeb Haul, who's talked in vague terms about
Speaker 1: violence and revolution, and if Mickey can roll up zeb
Speaker 1: with another big talking revolutionary, then he's got what the
Speaker 1: Justice Department could present to the public as a terrorism
Speaker 1: conspiracy case, and Mickey's got someone in mind for his
Speaker 1: roll up with zeb Bryce Shelby. I can't ut here
Speaker 1: what a rifle because y'all killing us anyways when we
Speaker 1: come to protest and spraying it down and pepper gassing
Speaker 1: it and tear bombing it and everything like that, doing
Speaker 1: things to antagonize the crowd, to make the crowd mess
Speaker 1: with the Bryce was known as a verbal bomb thrower whatever.
Speaker 1: He talks fast, with a rhythmic cadence, and he's passionate
Speaker 1: about confronting racial injustice, like really passionate, like rhetoric so
Speaker 1: heated that you really begin to wonder, Man, maybe this
Speaker 1: guy could get violent when they had any unmarked card.
Speaker 1: What the fuck are you gonna do? Hands up, don't shoot,
Speaker 1: You're gonna fire on you legally, you're right. That's Bryce is,
Speaker 1: as it happens, an aspiring hip hop artist. He goes
Speaker 1: by the stage name Acoustic, and thanks to that flowing,
Speaker 1: lyrical voice, Bryce is pretty good. Everybody go on what side,
Speaker 1: don't shade if you like, but a chop a tree,
Speaker 1: not a person in my age race stopped to me.
Speaker 1: I need to boxing me of a Catholides. I'm being
Speaker 1: a call at the map and the doctor pleats. I
Speaker 1: try to copy with enocities. I'm gonna call it trying
Speaker 1: to complete. In Denver, there was an open mic series
Speaker 1: called Melanated Mike that became a gravitational center for local
Speaker 1: racial justice activists. Regular speakers included Bryce zep Haul and
Speaker 1: Trey Quinn. He was me, if I never had a felony,
Speaker 1: This is Trey describing Bryce. Trey recruited people to speak
Speaker 1: out Melanated Mike and entering the demonstrations. If I had
Speaker 1: never had a felony, I would have been a licensed
Speaker 1: gun owner. I probably would have been a lot more
Speaker 1: like him, you know, with my rhetoric and just the
Speaker 1: way I acted. You know, I I do these things
Speaker 1: a certain way because I know that they can use
Speaker 1: it against me, and so I can't just outright say
Speaker 1: all my beliefs in the most raw form. And he
Speaker 1: would say the things out loud that I would think
Speaker 1: out loud like you know, or think like I think
Speaker 1: up here, but they come out of my mouth a
Speaker 1: different way. He would say, just that. You know, That's
Speaker 1: how how he was. So that Bryce was he was
Speaker 1: radical me for sure. Bryce could be a live wire,
Speaker 1: and sometimes in his speeches he just go way too far.
Speaker 1: He often had the right idea, but it would just
Speaker 1: come out wrong, very wrong. Once we had a town
Speaker 1: hall and me and Bryce spoke. I spoke first, Bryce
Speaker 1: spoke second, and Bryce he made a Hitler reference. He
Speaker 1: made a Donald Trump Hitler socialism reference, and he used
Speaker 1: Hitler as the hinge point for the reference. Now, it
Speaker 1: takes so much nuance to understand what he was saying,
Speaker 1: because it to the layman, it literally sounded like he
Speaker 1: just said Hitler was right. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But he's literally saying Hitler used a rhetoric about socialists
Speaker 1: that also applies to this. Right now, this is what
Speaker 1: he was trying to say. He could have used any
Speaker 1: other person, but he used that. Bryce's Hitler speech happened
Speaker 1: in August twenty twenty, around the time that Mickey had
Speaker 1: falsely accused Trey of being an informant, and there were
Speaker 1: rumors online circulating about Trey, including that he was a fed,
Speaker 1: that he was nanti Semite, that he just couldn't be trusted.
Speaker 1: On the Reddit thread of the Black Speakers that spoke
Speaker 1: that night, it was all about me and everything that
Speaker 1: all of the black speakers said. Apparently I said they
Speaker 1: were like Trey said this and that and he and
Speaker 1: he made a healer reference. I told you he was
Speaker 1: an end all this crazy shit, and I knew it
Speaker 1: was like y'all weren't even out there, none of these
Speaker 1: people were here. And so to me, those felt like
Speaker 1: veag accounts for sure, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: one person with several accounts helping construct the narrative. That's
Speaker 1: what it felt like to me. I wish I could
Speaker 1: prove that shit. If you remember, Mickey starts spreading rumors
Speaker 1: that Trey was working for the FEDS and that whisper
Speaker 1: campaign is having an effect, so in confusion among the
Speaker 1: leaders and participants of the demonstrations and leading to allegations
Speaker 1: online all made by anonymous accounts, that Trey is a problem.
Speaker 1: At the time, Trey isn't telling others that he suspects
Speaker 1: Mickey's an informant. He doesn't want word getting back to
Speaker 1: Mickey because Tray's working under a strategy of keeping your
Speaker 1: enemies close. So Bryce has no idea about tray suspicions.
Speaker 1: And one night Bryce attends a party hosted by Mickey
Speaker 1: and his allies. It's in the apartment with all the
Speaker 1: pekk flags, the one where zeb had seen on several
Speaker 1: occasions a table full of guns. This probe like where
Speaker 1: it all starts, I guess for me. Back to Bryce.
Speaker 1: Like other demonstrators in Denver, Bryce is fed up. Nothing's
Speaker 1: changing and they're getting their asses kicked by the cops
Speaker 1: every night. There was a bunch of people there and
Speaker 1: it was just, you know, I'm like I would just
Speaker 1: super frustrated with just a whole bunch of different things.
Speaker 1: Mickey comes up to Bryce at the party, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He was like, you know, what's your
Speaker 1: how do you feel? I was like, man like, not
Speaker 1: literally thinking like that, but just like, man like, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna give us no kind of justice, no other
Speaker 1: kind of way. Let's hit him where it hurts, for real.
Speaker 1: I was basically just saying how I felt like, let's
Speaker 1: hit him where it hurts, like they're killing us. Bryce
Speaker 1: stops here and he goes on a tangent. It's a
Speaker 1: bit of a rant. I'm gonna let you hear it
Speaker 1: because this is Bryce's typical rhetoric. The type of thing
Speaker 1: he'd say in front of crowds during protests. But this
Speaker 1: is also what he's saying to Mickey an FBI informant
Speaker 1: when they meet at the party. America, black people, African Americans, Negroes, niggas,
Speaker 1: niggas whatever, we have been under persecution and treated a
Speaker 1: certain way by Europeans, Eurasians, whatever you want to call
Speaker 1: white people of lighter skin for at least three centuries,
Speaker 1: four centuries. We've been looking for something from your treaty
Speaker 1: and from eighteen thirty five that says you was gonna
Speaker 1: give everybody forty acres m. We've been looking for that
Speaker 1: for a hundred years, since we've been out of slavery.
Speaker 1: Now you have sworn peace officers who are killing black
Speaker 1: people for whatever specific reason. So to see it happen
Speaker 1: and start getting closer home, like I said Trey via
Speaker 1: Mike Brown, everything like that. And the politicians aren't doing anything,
Speaker 1: the governor of the mayor, there's no laws being changed,
Speaker 1: there's no bills being submitted, the officers aren't being penalized
Speaker 1: or what's the word prosecuted. Sorry, you're not really seeing
Speaker 1: anything on the systematic side of it, thing of things.
Speaker 1: So it's like Okay, they're killing us. Let's show them
Speaker 1: how it feels one time, basically, and that's kind of
Speaker 1: where you know, that's again, that's where conversations with Mickey,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, kind of pretty much went
Speaker 1: more or less. Mickey seems receptive to what Bryce is saying,
Speaker 1: and to impress Bryce, he starts talking about his experience
Speaker 1: fighting ISIS in Iraq. Mickey brought out a picture of
Speaker 1: him standing over like I don't know how many people
Speaker 1: with bodies would have, you know, cigar in his mouth,
Speaker 1: rifle in his hand. I don't know if that was
Speaker 1: exactly that, but I know it was him in the
Speaker 1: picture standing over somebodies with a rifle in his head.
Speaker 1: He may not have had the cigar. I say the
Speaker 1: cigar because he smoked them saying over a bunch of
Speaker 1: dead bodies. And then next to the picture was an
Speaker 1: ISIS flag. Bryce is impressed. He assumes Mickey is some
Speaker 1: kind of mercenary. Mickey tells Bryce that he wants to
Speaker 1: talk to him more in private. He invites Bryce to
Speaker 1: join him for lunch the next day. So let's go
Speaker 1: to lunch after the break. Okay, this is a special
Speaker 1: agent Scott Dlstrom with special Agent Byron Mitchell stche It's
Speaker 1: a sunny day in Denver. This is the week that
Speaker 1: racial justice activists have begun their full on attacks targeting
Speaker 1: police buildings with rocks and fireworks, actions that Mickey had
Speaker 1: hyped up and encouraged. FBI agent Scott Dhlstrom, Mickey's handler,
Speaker 1: is sitting in the passnger seat of a black sedan.
Speaker 1: He hands Mickey a recording device. YEA, yeah, okay, peace
Speaker 1: loving hair grease. Right, peace love and hair grease, Mickey
Speaker 1: tells the FBI agents. He then walks back to a
Speaker 1: silver hearse. Mickey already has a song ready for this moment,
Speaker 1: as if he put together a playlist for his work
Speaker 1: as an FBI informant. The song Mickey's playing is Long
Speaker 1: Cool Woman in a Black Dress by the Hollies. It's
Speaker 1: about an FBI undercover agent during Prohibition. He's inside a
Speaker 1: speakeasy and the cops are about to raid the place.
Speaker 1: He's not answering this. Bullets were drive by his house.
Speaker 1: He's a beautiful singer and saves her from arrest. As
Speaker 1: the song plays, the FBI's hidden camera gets flipped around
Speaker 1: and faces the partition separating the hearses driver's cabin from
Speaker 1: the area where the coffin would normally be stowed. Leaning
Speaker 1: against the partition, you can see a crossbow with arrows.
Speaker 1: This isn't a Robin Hood style crossbow either. We're talking
Speaker 1: about a military style death dealer, designed like a rifle
Speaker 1: that fires arrows instead of bullets, a true zombie apocalypse
Speaker 1: kind of crossbow. After driving for about ten minutes, Mickey
Speaker 1: parks and gets out of the hearse. It's the summer
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty er, the pandemic is in high gear,
Speaker 1: and vaccines are several months away. Most people are still
Speaker 1: wearing face masks indoors. In the undercover video, you can
Speaker 1: see Mickey putting on his mask. It's black. On the
Speaker 1: left side it reads Peshmerga with a Kurdish flag. On
Speaker 1: the right side it says ninth Brigade with a logo
Speaker 1: for the Punisher. I'm pretty sure this wasn't standard issue
Speaker 1: for volunteer Peshmerga fighters. Mickey no doubt had it made
Speaker 1: at a screen printing place. Anyway, this afternoon, with this
Speaker 1: custom made Peshmerga punisher mask, Mickey has his tough guy
Speaker 1: costume on and he struts into famous Days a chain
Speaker 1: barbecue restaurant. Mickey's asked for a table for three, and
Speaker 1: of course, since he's secretly recording this for the FBI,
Speaker 1: he's also requested for the restaurant's music to be turned down.
Speaker 1: But feen minutes later, the activist Bryce Shelby shows up.
Speaker 1: What are you up to? Mickey's arranged this lunch to
Speaker 1: bring Bryce and zeb together. Mickey and the FBI are
Speaker 1: now targeting both of them, trying to find a way
Speaker 1: to set them up on federal criminal charges. At the
Speaker 1: beginning of this lunch, Mickey appears to hope he can
Speaker 1: envelop them in a kind of conspiracy. It's all vague
Speaker 1: at this point, but Mickey's aim is to fold them
Speaker 1: into some sort of big, violent plot. At the time,
Speaker 1: Bryce doesn't really know zeb Zeb hasn't arrived for lunch yet,
Speaker 1: and so Mickey tells Bryce that he's bringing the two
Speaker 1: of them together because, in Mickey's words, they're talking about
Speaker 1: the same shit. Yeah yeah, all right, yeah, because he
Speaker 1: says zeb was like because z was talking about like
Speaker 1: the same ship. Yeah, and he was like outside, you
Speaker 1: know what, because I didn't want to like bring anybody together,
Speaker 1: try to like sure, but he was cool. Ye, That's
Speaker 1: why I asked away. I asked to make sure it
Speaker 1: was just like coach. The waiter then comes up to
Speaker 1: the table, so I uh, I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: maybe bring everybody together to if it works out like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So no harm, no foul,
Speaker 1: yeah talk. Bryce tells Mickey that Zeb has been encouraging
Speaker 1: him to tone down his rhetoric and speeches, something Bryce
Speaker 1: doesn't want to do. Mickey then suggested Bryce that Zeb
Speaker 1: might have an ulterior motive, like, well, I guess he's
Speaker 1: trying to keep licking everything like under the radar, keep
Speaker 1: things under the radar. Mickey says, as if ZEB is
Speaker 1: the mastermind of some big plot in the making. And
Speaker 1: then about ten minutes later, Zeb arrives. I was wondering
Speaker 1: if you were coming, okay, yeah, kind of stopped everything.
Speaker 1: How you doing? You're good? Good? Good? Fuck? When I
Speaker 1: saw it was Bryce, So like, what the fuck this
Speaker 1: nigga right here? ZEB didn't know that Bryce was going
Speaker 1: to be at this lunch. I didn't trust this dude.
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was just you know, we all
Speaker 1: had some mischiefs. Hell, I've got issues, but this dude
Speaker 1: just wasn't fucking there. And when I saw him, like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck this guy? You know, Bryce would walk
Speaker 1: around with a fucking semi automatic gun. As some of
Speaker 1: the protests, he walked around with a fucking noose around
Speaker 1: his neck, and yeah, people, everybody was upset. But I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: this fucking guy. And at that point, you know, I'm there,
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, let's just see what the
Speaker 1: fuck's going on now. But Mickey wants to bring these
Speaker 1: guys together, and he wastes no time in getting started.
Speaker 1: He tells zeb and Bryce that his guy an outlaw biker,
Speaker 1: a bad motherfucker. He's coming into town. Okay, so nobody
Speaker 1: can hear us. So okay, so I talked to my dude.
Speaker 1: He's on board. Um, what he's gonna do. He's coming
Speaker 1: in tuesday, So what fairworld meet at nowhere like this
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. He'll walk you through what the game plan is.
Speaker 1: Mickey says he's going to back away from all this
Speaker 1: once he introduces zeb and Bryce to his guy, and
Speaker 1: his excuse for doing that is he's got a broken finger.
Speaker 1: Mickey claims to have injured his finger in a motorcycle
Speaker 1: accident at Sturgis, an annual biker rally in South Dakota.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to step back for a little bit
Speaker 1: because of this fucking situation until this is resolved, because
Speaker 1: I am like, no good, what the fucked up finger? Like? Literally,
Speaker 1: my ship Manna shows it's not bad. My motherfucker finger race.
Speaker 1: So as you see there, the ball is completely shattered. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's completely shattered. So I have to and they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to, Like Jack is zeb cracks a juvenile
Speaker 1: joke in case he missed it too much, Jack and Off, man,
Speaker 1: I wish, but it ain't the Jack and Off. But
Speaker 1: the thing is that they said, Um, apparently what they
Speaker 1: told me was that they're gonna have to put cut
Speaker 1: through my fingertip put a pin in there. If that
Speaker 1: does not work, Mickey explains that he needs to get
Speaker 1: the finger treated or he runs the risk of losing
Speaker 1: it altogether. Mickey then starts to encourage Zeb and Bryce
Speaker 1: to come up with a plan, but he warns they
Speaker 1: can't bring anybody else in. It's got to remain super secret.
Speaker 1: Don't tell anyone what we're talking about. Yeah, but let
Speaker 1: me let me tell you something. I'm gonna roll with
Speaker 1: you a second, okay, And I'm gonna put it as
Speaker 1: as an outlaw biker point of viewer. When you bring
Speaker 1: two me fucking people in, somebody's gonna talk. Motherfucker gets
Speaker 1: pulled in n a d uy. They're gonna talk. Motherfucker
Speaker 1: gets on a dope charge, They get a tall Mutherfucker
Speaker 1: goes to a fucking massage parlor, needs to get massage stub,
Speaker 1: and then he gets motherfucking arrested. Muffucker the stitch. The
Speaker 1: waiter comes to the table and Mickey, Bryce and Zeb
Speaker 1: stop their tough guy talk in order food as if
Speaker 1: nothing's going on. Mickey says he's buying. Yeah. Mickey orders
Speaker 1: ribs with beans and mashed potatoes. Zeb orders the same
Speaker 1: and says they'll take a chicken sandwich all right, any
Speaker 1: heals guys, and garlic toast for me. Good stead of
Speaker 1: the loffings. You know, I don't like muffins. I hate muffins.
Speaker 1: I do not man. I eat that ship the South
Speaker 1: so much, I say, eating fish of the ocean. I'll
Speaker 1: fucking tired of that ship, you say, Wilburn, I anal
Speaker 1: fucking i Ano soccer ball here? Thank you? Eat anything cool? Cool.
Speaker 1: Once the waiter leaves, the tough guy talk picks back
Speaker 1: up the short instances in time, but letting me learn
Speaker 1: what I need to learn, the out build up and
Speaker 1: make something good, right, because I want to burn the
Speaker 1: whole fucking city. Zeb is talking a lot like he
Speaker 1: was earlier when he and Mickey met in his apartment,
Speaker 1: A lot of vague ideas, speeches, propaganda, training, but with
Speaker 1: a big, splashy conclusion. I want to burn the whole
Speaker 1: fucking city down, Zeb says. But Zeb doesn't have any
Speaker 1: sort of timeline or much of a plan. It's wild talk, really.
Speaker 1: Zeb continues to say violence needed to break our corrupt
Speaker 1: and racist system, but he's somehow going to inspire others
Speaker 1: to commit violence, not commit any himself. Right. Why can
Speaker 1: I build up over time but anger and resenting it
Speaker 1: and then just throw up some fucking event. And we'd
Speaker 1: look to a rich neighborhood and I couldnt control what
Speaker 1: the people do. Why can't I grow anger over time,
Speaker 1: Zeb says, and then create a demonstration in a rich
Speaker 1: neighborhood if people get violent, well, I can't control people.
Speaker 1: That appears to be the extent of Zeb's recipe for
Speaker 1: revolution and that's not good enough for Mickey. But which
Speaker 1: rich neighborhood do you think him of pick up it
Speaker 1: over time? You've got six months night, Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: gotta remember my guy doesn't have six months all Indians
Speaker 1: to teach me. I don't know, man, I you don't
Speaker 1: have to talk to him. But the thing I'm telling
Speaker 1: you is this guy's an old bullshit type of cat.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. He's not going to like
Speaker 1: sit around and fucking make Hamburgers a ship like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, Y're all trying to do shit. He's going
Speaker 1: to help you with this, but you understand this guy's
Speaker 1: are no fun around type of do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And it's like, you know, I mean you
Speaker 1: look at Bryce's point and Bryce is talking about immediate action,
Speaker 1: you know, news splash shit. I mean, what do you
Speaker 1: think Bryce? I hear what the Bryce says. He feels
Speaker 1: like they're running out of time, the cops are kicking
Speaker 1: their asses. Something more needs to be done and soon,
Speaker 1: and Mickey encourages a more specific plan blow up a
Speaker 1: courthouse maybe, or shoot the attorney general. You know, I'll
Speaker 1: put you like this. Let me just be real with
Speaker 1: you for a second. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: It's cool whatever your game plan is. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna sit there and tell you you should do
Speaker 1: this and you should do that. I'm not gonna say that, okay,
Speaker 1: but you need to have an objective of what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do. I mean, you know you, like, if Bryce's
Speaker 1: planning on like, okay, I want to blow up a
Speaker 1: motherfucking courthouse, I need to know what the game players
Speaker 1: I'm going to shoot up a more fucking the Attorney General.
Speaker 1: So I could tell him, my dude, this is what's up.
Speaker 1: Because if I tell him my dude, like yeah, they're
Speaker 1: gonna come out and hang out for nine months and
Speaker 1: they want to do some training. Mickey says he needs
Speaker 1: to give his contact, the no fuck Around Guy, an
Speaker 1: action plan. Otherwise this is all just talk going nowhere.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I gotta tell him, my dude a game plan. I
Speaker 1: can't tell him like, well, they plan on like eight
Speaker 1: or nine months and you tell me, okay, cool, whatever,
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you later. Click Zep won't commit to
Speaker 1: anything concrete, but Bryce he likes. One of Mickey's big ideas.
Speaker 1: That's after the break So Mickey, Zeb and Bryce are
Speaker 1: sitting at a table at a famous Dave's Barbecue restaurant
Speaker 1: in Denver. Zeb's blueprints for revolution are vague and all
Speaker 1: over the place. As usual, we'll wait a few months,
Speaker 1: get people angry, and then they'll lash out with violence,
Speaker 1: bringing down the whole system or something like that. And
Speaker 1: Mickey is getting frustrated with all this gas bagging. He
Speaker 1: wants to introduce Zeb and Bryce to this person. He
Speaker 1: calls his outlaw biker buddy, a no fuck around guy
Speaker 1: to use Mickey's subscription, who can provide whatever help they need, training, guns, explosives,
Speaker 1: you name it. So Mickey reveals to Zeb that Bryce
Speaker 1: might have a scheme in mind that the no fuck
Speaker 1: around guy could get behind. Bryce has the home address
Speaker 1: of an important elected official, and well what if that
Speaker 1: politician winds up dead shot as he's getting out of
Speaker 1: his car or leaving his house. So question is are
Speaker 1: you cool with Are you cool with Bryce? Do what
Speaker 1: he needs to do if he will do it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got the DA's address, Bryce says, referring to the
Speaker 1: district attorney. Well the you mean the attorney general? Better? Yeah,
Speaker 1: most thing is it's clear from this conversation that Bryce
Speaker 1: doesn't know that the district attorney and the Attorney General
Speaker 1: are two different people, two different elected positions. Zeb then
Speaker 1: goes on another tangent about how violence against someone like
Speaker 1: the attorney general could be the start of something big,
Speaker 1: but in typical Zeb fashion, he describes how they'll also
Speaker 1: need to do speeches and propaganda, have a demonstration, maybe
Speaker 1: a parade, get people so frustrated that they'll get off
Speaker 1: their couches and overthrow the ruling class. Mickey just ignores
Speaker 1: most of what Zeb is saying and then brings it
Speaker 1: back to Bryce's specific plan, but is seemingly an assassination
Speaker 1: plot against Colorado's Attorney general. All of the this is
Speaker 1: happening over lunch at Famous Days, right. But here's the thing,
Speaker 1: So this is what I'm gonna do. Then I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna let my boy know that. And I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: talk to and say, look, homeboy has a plan. How
Speaker 1: he wants to go about it. You want to kind
Speaker 1: of approach it on a different level and that way,
Speaker 1: and I think a good idea too. Us Just to
Speaker 1: cover our asses have we'll have zebadiahs get my weapons,
Speaker 1: get my toys, for me. We'll haven't get my toys
Speaker 1: for me, and then you focus on your game plan
Speaker 1: and don't have my boy focus on helping you do
Speaker 1: what you need to do. Okay, I mean you think
Speaker 1: about my wife. Do you know anything about rifles? Bryce?
Speaker 1: Ass Bryce at this time has a bullet jammed in
Speaker 1: his rifle and he can't get it out, a circumstance
Speaker 1: that would make killing the Attorney General pretty challenging. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: he's get He'll take a look at that ship for you. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I talked about it. He's like, yeah, I will show
Speaker 1: you how to walk that. Mickey is whipping up Bryce
Speaker 1: to commit himself to this assassination plan. So you're thinking
Speaker 1: for sure that the eight gen Yeah. Right. Then the
Speaker 1: discussion takes a very weird turn. Zeb listening to everything
Speaker 1: and wanting to be part of the conversation, begins to
Speaker 1: suggest that they should figure out a way to use
Speaker 1: Denver's sewer systems to move around the city, as if
Speaker 1: they're I don't know, teenage mutant ninja turtles. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: where's the sewer as where let's use the sewers? Zeb says,
Speaker 1: but where are the sewers Mickey ass they're all under us.
Speaker 1: Zebra applies, Who's whose sewers are we talking about? But
Speaker 1: the governor, the police chief, the mayor, the mayor, I
Speaker 1: don't even know where the fuck he looks. The conversation
Speaker 1: continues like this and absurd discussion of sewers, and the
Speaker 1: three men finish eating and walk outside of the restaurant
Speaker 1: and into the parking lot. Mickey is clearly annoyed, and
Speaker 1: once the steerest targets away from Zeb's ludicrous idea to
Speaker 1: launch the revolution from Denver sewer system and toward Bryce's
Speaker 1: nascent plan to kill an elected official, Mickey says he's
Speaker 1: got to let his contact know what's up and soon,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna him. Know who do you want to get?
Speaker 1: The Attorney General? Okay, I'll make it call. Appreciate your already, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah, play play it slow, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Black power already up? All right? Mickey gets
Speaker 1: in his silver hearse and sums up his meeting with
Speaker 1: Zeb and Bryce. What a dumpster fire. Mickey's playing Fleetwood
Speaker 1: Mac on the car stereo. After a short drive, he
Speaker 1: gets out of the hearse and walks over to meet
Speaker 1: with the FBI agents who are sitting in their black Sedan.
Speaker 1: Mickey taps on the car window. FBI agent Scott Dualstrom
Speaker 1: opens the door and Mickey hands them the recording device.
Speaker 1: Generals your target. Attorney generals your target. Mickey tells the
Speaker 1: agents the FBI now appears to have a serious investigation
Speaker 1: in Denver, a plot to assassinate statewide elected official. Hop
Speaker 1: out the car. You know what I mean, popping bam.
Speaker 1: That's in the next episode. This is Trojan Hearse, Season
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