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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: You know that's a perfect, a perfect introduction, because every

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Speaker 2: every time I watch a professional football game, Ephraim, I'm

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Speaker 2: reminded that me, Martin Weiss, these.

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Speaker 3: Guys are nothing like me. Right like I am.

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Speaker 2: I consider myself an all American man. I go out

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Speaker 2: and fix change my own oil. Okay, right, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Well, let me tell you something. If

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Speaker 2: I fractured my left hand, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Going to valvelin. I'm done.

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Speaker 2: I'm done, du and done, capital exclamation point.

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Speaker 3: Over with Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 2: The news comes out breaks punitent that he broke a

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Speaker 2: bone in his left hand. And today's win against the

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Speaker 2: Raiders and a game in which was it was thirty

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Speaker 2: one to fourteen, but kind of the final score was

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Speaker 2: a little closer than the than the actual game you

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Speaker 2: actually you were watching it, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: And it's like that's kind of the thing about football,

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Speaker 2: you know, you scored seven points at a time that

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Speaker 2: final score can look a little different than the actual stats.

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Speaker 2: To the Chargers killed the Raiders today, but in the

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Speaker 2: war lost Justin Herbert for a little bit, but he

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Speaker 2: came back into the game. So in this moment, I

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Speaker 2: didn't know if I was underreacting or overreacting. Okay, because

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Speaker 2: they did the breaking news, whoa Justin Herbert's wiz broke,

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Speaker 2: and so I thought, wait a minute, he finished the game, right,

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Speaker 2: He went into the locker room, came back out, finished

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Speaker 2: the game. I remember watching Aaron Rodgers play just a

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Speaker 2: few minutes ago with also a fractured left wrist. If

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Speaker 2: I'm a Chargers fan or somebody who's supporting this team

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Speaker 2: as they're trying to make this wild card a potential

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Speaker 2: division winning run, how worried am I about this left wrist?

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Speaker 4: Just to keep it in context, He's right handed, so

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Speaker 4: essentially it's pain tolerance, and can you use it as

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Speaker 4: a post to hold the ball in your hands? Now

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Speaker 4: you won't be able to grip it, but most right

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Speaker 4: handed quarterbacks aren't worried about that. You may have to

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Speaker 4: be in shotgun or at the pistol. We saw Aaron

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Speaker 4: Rodgers and the pistol a lot today because of the

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Speaker 4: cast on his hand. But it's really all pay management.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what was hard. I think in six

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Speaker 4: or seven I broke two fingers, those two fingers on

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Speaker 2: The pinky and the ring. Yeah, the ones that are

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Speaker 2: not no longer straight. Okay, yeah, you are throwing up

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Speaker 4: And then I shattered The next game, I shattered my

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Speaker 4: And then I started fourteen games as an offensive left

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Speaker 4: was difficult, but it's all pain management. And there's not

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Speaker 4: a lot of quarterbacks, not a lot of starting quarter

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Speaker 4: multiple starting quarterbacks on teams, and there's not a lot

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Speaker 4: you feel the need to do whatever it takes to

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Speaker 4: It's not about now you can safeties, you got all

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Speaker 4: kinds of dbs. You got about nine deep dbs, you

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Speaker 4: got about seven receivers, you got three four running backs.

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Speaker 4: But there are very few left tackles and very few

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks multiples of those on any roster. So you kind

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Speaker 4: of feel like, yo, look I have to do this.

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Speaker 4: This is something that I need to do, and then

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Speaker 4: you just push through it. You go in, you get

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Speaker 4: always take my hat off to players who can play

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Speaker 4: through pain. My wife and I were having a conversation

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Speaker 4: speaking strictly from an off intive lineman's point of view.

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Speaker 4: So many times the last couple of years, and especially

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Speaker 4: maybe that's a good thing in terms of longevity and health, right,

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Speaker 4: but it was never that was never a thing when

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Speaker 2: You were going out. You were somebody had to have

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Speaker 4: and it's a different mindset. Like I said, I played

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Speaker 4: Then it was more of oh, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: mentalities have shifted and and and guys are are are

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Speaker 4: more cautious now, maybe there won't be such, uh such

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Speaker 4: the long term effect, right, but it just it's just

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Speaker 4: still weird to me that guys are just subbing out

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Speaker 2: It throws a weird feeling to me because it's there's

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Speaker 2: did you need a break?

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Speaker 4: Did you need some water? I like being hurt and

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Speaker 4: being injured completely two different things. And then you're justin

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Speaker 4: Herbert was obviously injured. Of course you break a bone

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Speaker 4: that left uh ring finger looked kind of wonky as

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Speaker 4: every place, someone's gonna roll up on your legs, someone's

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Speaker 4: gonna hurt your shoulder. It's just gonna happen every single place.

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Speaker 4: So if you get into the habit of limping off

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Speaker 4: just it feels weird. And yeah, it's a different time.

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Speaker 4: I get it. I understand that. But you know, I

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Speaker 4: just you know, we were trained to just fight and

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Speaker 2: It reminds me if you coach es basketball, so you'll

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Speaker 2: relate to this. But one of the things that my

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Speaker 3: If you want to see just how hurt a guy

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like a guy can be limping up the

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Speaker 2: hey blow the wists.

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Speaker 3: Have to get him up out of here.

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Speaker 2: But if he doesn't, all right, you could probably go

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Speaker 4: Right, you can't get only get hurt on defense. It's funny,

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Speaker 4: did you bring that up on? Because my son, who

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Speaker 4: he'll I'll be like, hey, man, get up, you gotta

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Speaker 4: and then they'll get like a turnover something and then

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Speaker 4: I said you now, you can't limp back down the

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Speaker 3: That that limping and playing for the for the crowd.

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Speaker 3: That's over.

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Speaker 4: But it's just a natural thing for kids, especially to

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Speaker 4: look to be placated when something's not going right, or

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Speaker 3: But I'm like, nah, man, let's go.

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Speaker 4: If you're out there, you're out there, and if not,

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Speaker 4: tell the coach you can't go, right, that's it. If

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Speaker 4: look at bumps and bruises a different way mentally, because

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Speaker 4: if you are going to be an athlete, you have

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Speaker 4: to have a different approach mentally to those bumps and

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Speaker 2: And this is a little more than a bumper, scrap

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Speaker 2: or bruise. A fracture is a big deal.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right.

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Speaker 2: I was laughing at Mike Tomlin as he was talking

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Speaker 2: That sounds like it's small only to the person who

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Speaker 2: does not have it. Right, A small fracture only exists

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Speaker 2: to the person who's talking about it, not the person

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Speaker 3: On his hand.

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Speaker 2: But uh, justin Herbert, to me strikes me as a

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Speaker 3: I think we've seen it throughout his career.

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Speaker 2: He's type of guy who will play through injury, if

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Speaker 2: love lost with Seaw Slater, they lost Joe All. They

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Speaker 2: throwing offensive linemen at a problem that does not seem

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Speaker 2: and I think that ultimately.

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Speaker 3: Would be their biggest issue.

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Speaker 4: Well, when you look at their schedule coming down the stretch,

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Speaker 4: it's a bit of a buzzsall and not having healthy

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Speaker 4: tackles going in this stretch. They have the Eagles, then

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Speaker 4: they go to Kansas City, then they go to Dallas,

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Speaker 4: then they have the Texans and the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: You want to talk about a gauntlet.

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Speaker 4: They're going to have to earn their playoff spot.

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Speaker 3: And look.

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Speaker 4: How much do I mean at eight and four, all

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Speaker 4: they have to do to solidify a playoff spot is

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Speaker 4: win three out of the last five. They just gotta

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Speaker 4: get three, maybe two, but they have to they have

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Speaker 4: be If they can look up into you know, catch

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what might be one of their saving graces.

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Speaker 4: The Broncos may have exactly, The Broncos may have locked

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Speaker 4: this thing up because as we look, as we look

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Speaker 4: at the AFC playoff.

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Speaker 2: Picture right now, you would have made a whole lot

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Speaker 2: of money if you could have predicted.

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Speaker 3: This before the start of the season.

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Speaker 2: But the Broncos and the Patriots right now are on pretty.

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Speaker 2: They're sitting very pretty and at a result, at a

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Speaker 2: place where they most of the time, the Broncos are

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Speaker 2: the beneficiary of like the Chiefs resting players in the

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Speaker 2: final game of the season. Now it's a reality where

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Speaker 2: that could be the case. I know it's projecting way

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I didn't even have a written

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Speaker 2: here Fox Sports Football Sunday, About to watch Jake Moody

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Speaker 2: You know, when they put this one on the schedule earlier,

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Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty three yards in the air I

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Speaker 6: had a touchdown pass, also a touchdown run seventy six

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Speaker 6: of his career, most of any quarterback in NFL history.

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Speaker 6: Earlier today, some headlines Panthers stay topped the Rams thirty

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Speaker 6: one to twenty eight. Carolinas seven and six. Bryce Young

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Speaker 6: threw three touchdown passes. Matthew Stafford was picked off twice,

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Speaker 6: also had a late fumble on a drive that could

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Speaker 6: have tied or maybe given the Rams the lead. In Charlotte,

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Speaker 6: forty nine. Ers were victors against the Browns twenty six

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Speaker 6: to eight. San Francisco's nine to four Buccaneers were twenty

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Speaker 6: to seventeen victors against the Cardinals in the AFC South Showdown,

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Speaker 6: Texans win an Indy against the Colts. Right now, Texans

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Speaker 6: seven and five. Colts are eight and four, as are

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Speaker 6: the Jaguars, who roll past the Titans today twenty five

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Speaker 6: to three. Dolphins got passed the Saints twenty one to seventeen,

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Speaker 6: and the Jets get a fifty six yard field goal

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Speaker 6: from Nick Folk to top the Foulilkins.

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Speaker 3: Today twenty seven to twenty four.

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Speaker 6: Lane Kiffin announced he's leaving for LSU Michigan states they

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Speaker 6: fired Jonathan Smith after two seasons. Detroit Free Press as

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Speaker 6: that former Northwestern head coach Pat Fitzgerald is in line

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Speaker 6: to be the next Spartans head coach. Auburn's hired Florida's

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Speaker 6: Alex Golis is their new head coach. Florida finalizing a

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Speaker 6: six year deal to hire two Lanes, John Summral and guys.

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Speaker 6: In the NBA, Knicks just routed the Raptors one, sixteen

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Speaker 6: to ninety four. Celtics hold on for a one to

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Speaker 6: seventeen one to fifteen victory against the Cavs.

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Speaker 3: This producers put it up there.

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Speaker 2: So we talked about, like you know, this time of

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Speaker 2: the year being one where guys are kind of playing

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Speaker 2: for This is why I find fascinating about this time

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Speaker 2: of the year. Because we said it earlier how the

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Speaker 2: Broncos won't be playing for anything. I rephrase it now,

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Speaker 2: they can't play. They won't be playing. There's no seating

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Speaker 2: advantage should be played. But there are guys making and

484
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Speaker 2: breaking their careers like every Sunday. And I'm not saying

485
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Speaker 2: that today was necessarily to make or break for Shador Sanders.

486
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Speaker 2: Kevin Sepanski already said Chador is gonna come out and

487
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Speaker 2: make his third start or appear in his third game,

488
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Speaker 2: no third start right, make his third start coming up

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Speaker 2: next week, so he is going to be the starter

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Speaker 2: for at least seven more days. But what did you

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Speaker 2: see out of Shador Sanders, especially compared to what you've

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Speaker 2: seen already out of Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 4: Well, Look, first of all, I loved their first drive.

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Speaker 4: They'd he come away with any points? I thought, I

495
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Speaker 4: think it's important to score points when you put your team,

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Speaker 4: your offense in the position to score points. I'm not

497
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Speaker 4: a big fan of going for it on fourth downs

498
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Speaker 4: all the time. I think just for momentum sake, it's

499
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Speaker 4: hard to ask a offense to drive down the field

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Speaker 4: and to come settle for nothing and put your defense

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Speaker 4: in a tough situation as well. But I thought he

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Speaker 4: had command of the offense. I like what he did.

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Speaker 4: I like the game plan that they were running sixteen

504
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Speaker 4: for twenty five one hundred and forty nine yards a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Got sacked three times, but he had a pretty good

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Speaker 4: passing rating, and he looked more comfortable this week than

507
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Speaker 4: he did last week, which looked more comfortable than he

508
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Speaker 4: did two weeks ago when he came in when Dylan

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Speaker 4: Gabriel went down. Look sure, Dorit Sanders can play. He

510
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Speaker 4: can play. The more reps he gets in practice, the

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Speaker 4: more reps he gets on Sunday, the better he'll be.

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Speaker 4: He has the intentibles, he can make the throws down

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Speaker 4: the field that we had seen void for the Cleveland

514
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Speaker 4: Browns this year so far. And I think Kevin Stefanski,

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Speaker 4: I think he sees how the team is rallying around him.

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Speaker 4: He's galvanized that locker room. So why not. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they're both rookies, so at this point you have to

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Speaker 4: go with who you think can really spark the offense.

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Speaker 4: You look at your record, You're three to nine right now.

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Speaker 4: You're just playing to develop, right, You're just and so

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Speaker 4: you got to pick a guy. You can't develop them

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Speaker 4: both at the same time. It's you know, unfortunate that

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Speaker 4: that Dylan Gabriel had a concussion they had to miss

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Speaker 4: a game. Uh, But dims beat the breaks. Uh in

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Speaker 4: the NFL and in pro sports period.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, and I'm not trying to disparage the

527
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Speaker 2: concussions are a real thing. I'm not taking anything away

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Speaker 2: from the fact that it just but you can feel

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Speaker 2: in concussion for any injury that would have had Dylan

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Speaker 2: Gear knocked out for at least a game. Dylan Gabriel

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Speaker 2: had a three to four game audition period to where

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Speaker 2: if he had gotten hurt bad enough he you know,

533
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Speaker 2: to miss a game, he could have played well enough

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Speaker 2: to be the starter. Like for example, in Cincinnati. I

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Speaker 2: know it's a stretch, but in Cincinnati Joe Burrow got hurt,

536
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Speaker 2: as soon as Joe Burrow was healthy, they put him

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Speaker 2: right back out there.

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Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, Washington, as soon.

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Speaker 2: As Jaydon daniels elbow is better to play, Marcus Mariota

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Speaker 2: will be back sitting on the bench.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So Dylan Gabriel had an opportunity to kind of solidify

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Speaker 2: himself even though he was going to miss games due

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Speaker 2: to injury. Right, Like, I think Shador Sanders is now

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Speaker 2: taking that step that we did not see Dylan Gabriel take.

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Speaker 3: And I think, like.

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Speaker 2: When when you're talking about developing quarterbacks, I think this

548
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Speaker 2: is something.

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Speaker 3: Also we'll talk.

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Speaker 2: About Minnesota in next hour, but it's something I find

551
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Speaker 2: because like I went to Michigan, big Michigan fan. I

552
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Speaker 2: watched JJ McCarthy's every snap he took college. So I

553
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Speaker 2: don't think he's like when he after they won a championship.

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Speaker 2: I said, I do not think he's a NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I don know, right, you know saying I was like Minnesota, right,

556
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Speaker 2: But I mean I was saying I watched every stab.

557
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Speaker 2: I said, I don't think he's a NFL quarterback, right,

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Speaker 2: And I thought that he should have gone back to school.

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Speaker 3: Then they take him. I'm like, all right, cool, hey, But.

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Speaker 2: When you have a guy that's gonna take that much development,

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Speaker 2: what's the upside? Like if you're gonna do if you're

562
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Speaker 2: gonna tell me that Josh Allen is gonna take two

563
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Speaker 2: years of development for me to get peak Josh Allen

564
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Speaker 2: or Patrick Mahomes is gonna take one year is sitting

565
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Speaker 2: on the bench, and then after one year sitting on

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Speaker 2: the bench, he'll be able to come out and be

567
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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. Those are things that you're well and good

568
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Speaker 2: and happy to invest in, right. But if you're telling

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Speaker 2: me that, what is Dylan Gabriel going to be?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: At what is the peak? A one best option? Like

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Speaker 2: the best output from Dylan Gabriel, It can't be as

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Speaker 2: high as the number one for Sir Door Sanders, Like,

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Speaker 2: do you see.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying?

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Speaker 4: I think the intenios physically different, Yeah, I think the

577
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Speaker 4: intangibles are different. Now, I'm not saying Dylan Gabriel can't

578
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Speaker 4: be a good quarterback in the right system. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if Cleveland is the right system for any quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's been forty five starting quarterbacks since what

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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen whatever, nineteen nine, nine, forty five, forty five. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it feels like thousand quarterbacks, but forty five starting quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if Cleveland is the right system

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Speaker 4: for a quarterback. I'm sure Baker Mayfield will say it's

586
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Speaker 4: not sure, and so we don't quite know what's going

587
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Speaker 4: on in that quarterback room. First of all, remember in

588
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Speaker 4: training camp they had five guys on the quarter traded

589
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 4: for Kenny Pickett, they had Joe Flacco, and you draft

590
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Speaker 4: two quarterbacks in the same draft, so you got two

591
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Speaker 4: rookie quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: To me, that alone lets me know they're not quite.

593
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Speaker 4: In tune with how to develop and how this process goes.

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Speaker 4: Because now the leash is too short. Dylan gabro doesn't

595
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 4: play well, she do? Or you get in there, Oh

596
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Speaker 4: he doesn't play well, Oh Dylan, you go back in

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00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 4: there like that's not how you develop a player, right,

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Speaker 4: And that's the situation they're.

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Speaker 3: In as a team.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I find so like because I we

601
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Speaker 2: pay more attention to this. Obviously you lived this, but

602
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Speaker 2: we pay more attention to this than the average person

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Speaker 2: who's just listening to us.

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Speaker 3: Right, this is our job, right, So like.

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Speaker 2: I am aware that the backup quarterback doesn't get reps,

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Speaker 2: it's just not how it goes. The starter gets all

607
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Speaker 2: the reps because the starter is the guy that's going

608
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Speaker 2: to play. Now, you could argue the efficacy of that,

609
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Speaker 2: but what I'm not gonna argue is that that's what happens, right,

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Speaker 2: And I think the interesting part about it, You saw

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Speaker 2: all these people who were complaining essentially that Shador Sanders

612
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Speaker 2: were not being developed. Cleveland was just making the decision,

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Speaker 2: we're going to try to develop Dylan Gabriel ahead of

614
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Speaker 2: Shador Sanders. That's really the decision that was made. And

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Speaker 2: now I think we see them making the other one, uh,

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Speaker 2: the opposite, And but who knows they can make that.

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Speaker 2: They could change their minds on that one a week

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Speaker 2: from today, just like they changed their minds on the

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel one.

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Speaker 3: What two weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: You're right, and I think to your point about reps

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Speaker 4: in practice, normally, if you have a veteran quarterback, he

623
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Speaker 4: wants all the reps like so right like he like

624
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Speaker 4: starting quarterbacks are meticulous about preparation.

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Speaker 3: Meticulous.

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Speaker 4: They want every blitz period a rep, they want every

627
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Speaker 4: a third down period where they want every team rep.

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Speaker 4: That's the case. Now when you have a rookie starting

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Speaker 4: and the backup is a rookie, Now the onus is

630
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Speaker 4: on you as a coach because you understand that you're

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Speaker 4: one play away or one erratic bad half away from

632
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Speaker 4: putting the other guy in. So you have to come

633
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Speaker 4: up with ways to do that. Case in point, if

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Speaker 4: they want Dylan Gabriel to have all of the reps

635
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Speaker 4: in practice, then you have to extend each period by

636
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Speaker 4: four plays. Sure, so now you extend the team period

637
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: by four plays and let your door take those four plays.

638
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 4: You extend the blitz pick up period by four plays

639
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 4: and let your doer take those four plays. Nine on seven,

640
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 4: you extend that by four plays and let shouldure take.

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Speaker 4: That's how you work around that, and it's the onus

642
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 4: is on the head coach to be able to facilitate that.

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Speaker 4: Having a quarterback unprepared to go into the game just

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Speaker 4: in case something happens is the reflection on.

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Speaker 3: Upstairs.

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Speaker 4: That's that's where that comes from. Now Schadur must prepare

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Speaker 4: like a starter, whether he gets reps or not. But

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Speaker 4: there's something to be said about being out there and

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Speaker 4: letting the offensive line, the receivers and everybody hear your

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Speaker 4: voice making a cadence.

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Speaker 2: And I will say this whatever it is like, not

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Speaker 2: just in terms of on the playing field, off of

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Speaker 2: the playing field, juice, swag, whatever, aura, whatever new word

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Speaker 2: is coming up for Like seriously, whatever the kids wear

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Speaker 2: pajeba pants, call this now. It's like, cha, Door's got

656
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Speaker 2: it right and so definite, like can the can the

657
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Speaker 2: play on the field match the bravado off the field?

658
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Speaker 3: And if and if it's able to congratulations.

659
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Speaker 2: I don't know do you have a starting quarterback, but

660
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: you have a very marketable starting quarterback who everyone in

661
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 2: your city would love and defend and where's Jersey and

662
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 2: argue endlessly online in his defense. But coming up next,

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Speaker 2: we finally have an end to the saga that has

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Speaker 2: been plaguing the football world for weeks. It's over now,

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Speaker 2: for everybody except for one team. We'll get to that

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Speaker 2: in just a minute. Martin Weiss, Ephraim Salam Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

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Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen.

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Speaker 2: Live Well Ephraim, Martin Weise, epht Sualan coming to you

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Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. The Cliffin. The

672
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Speaker 2: Kiffin clock has struck zero. We now know where the

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Speaker 2: glass slipper is. It's in Baton Rouge. As Lane Kiffin,

674
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Speaker 2: fresh off of a Friday daytime Egg Bowl win, did

675
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: not like seeing the egg Bowl during sunlight. It felt weird,

676
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: very much like it felt weird that the sideline reporter

677
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: was reporting, I don't know, I think team with one

678
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: loss is about to lose their head coach. It sounds

679
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: like he's up out of there, or Martin Smith sounds

680
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: like he's up out of there.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: And sure enough we have finally got the news by

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Speaker 2: Lane Kivin in the Sunday a Sunday one o'clock PM dump.

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Speaker 3: Right. He did it right as.

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00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: The Sunday games were kicking off, So all the other

686
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: reporters will be busy Lane Kiff in the next coach

687
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Speaker 2: at LSU and not coaching Old Miss in the College

688
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: Football Playoff, the birth that they will very much likely get.

689
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the idea that Lane Kiffin

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Speaker 2: is leaving Old.

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Speaker 4: Miss to go coach LSU. I'm I don't mind him leaving.

692
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 4: I don't like when he's leaving. I think if you

693
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Speaker 4: have kids by in to what you're selling by in to,

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00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 4: you know, the message that you're you're preaching. I think

695
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 4: at the least you can do is finish out with them.

696
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: I think that's important to do. Now, understand, business is business.

697
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 4: But like you said, for all into his purposes, they

698
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 4: will be in the College Football Playoff, and you want

699
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Speaker 4: to talk about distractions. I just don't think it's fair

700
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 4: to them. Uh, he's not taking the kids with him

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Speaker 4: to LSU. May some of them, but he's going to

702
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Speaker 4: take all of them.

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Speaker 2: I imagine he'll do something similar to Uh. I think

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Speaker 2: De'on Sanders made it famous. So I'm bringing my luggage

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Speaker 2: with me. I imagine he'll have some luggage from Oxford

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Speaker 2: on the way to Baton Rouge.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you have an eleven in one season. You've

708
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Speaker 4: had a tremendous year. I just think the timing of

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Speaker 4: it all, it's poor timing in my estimation, in my

710
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 4: in my mind because obviously the kids have bought into

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Speaker 4: that system and they revere him as a coach, and

712
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Speaker 4: to know, hey, he's leaving, he's out before the job

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Speaker 4: is done, it just kind of put the bad taste

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Speaker 4: in my mouth. And look, maybe this is a different

715
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Speaker 4: time and it's just business. Business is business. So I

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Speaker 4: take it he's not coaching them in the playoffs or

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Speaker 4: anything like. No, he's not Pete Golden.

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Speaker 2: Who's been an SEC assistant for a long time. I

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Speaker 2: know he also coached under Saving. He's a defensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: for ole Miss. He's going to be the head coach

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Speaker 2: of the team in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's why. So you think Keiffn should

723
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Speaker 3: have been able to coach his team, and I think

724
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Speaker 3: he should have.

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Speaker 4: They should slow this process down and announce it after

726
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Speaker 4: the you know, after it's done. And I get it,

727
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 4: you gotta recruit, you gotta start now and all of that.

728
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Speaker 4: But I think I think oh Miss probably.

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Speaker 2: Would have been down for that. But if I'm LSU,

730
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Speaker 2: I'm about to pay you upwards of sixty seventy eighty

731
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Speaker 2: million dollars. It's gonna be my next head coach. You

732
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Speaker 2: don't get to take two weeks before you get the job. Yeah,

733
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Speaker 2: well that's the and maybe that's the problem. Maybe the

734
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Speaker 2: problem is.

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Speaker 4: The timing of it, all right, the way these coaches

736
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Speaker 4: start interviewing for these jobs, Maybe we need to pull

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Speaker 4: back on that a little bit and and let them

738
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Speaker 4: finish out what they're doing. Because I can tell you this,

739
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Speaker 4: when LSU, when he's offered, you know, by Alabama twice

740
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Speaker 4: what LSU is paying him, and he leaves in the

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Speaker 4: middle of it.

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Speaker 3: You know, I just don't. I just don't like what

743
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: that means for the players.

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Speaker 2: That's my biggest takeaway is if we're going through have

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Speaker 2: college football free agency and we're gonna have like essentially

746
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: with the transperportal, that's what that is college football free agency,

747
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: except that happens every single years. That have you know,

748
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: you know, everybody's up every single year, is what I

749
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Speaker 2: should say. Then there has to be, in my opinion,

750
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Speaker 2: a hiring and firing calendar the same way like right now,

751
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: Dan Quinn coaches the Washington Commanders, the new York Giants

752
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: job is open, the Tennessee Titans job is available. They

753
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: can't just say I'm hiring dan Quinn week fourteen. Do

754
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying week fifteen. There's a period

755
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: of time in which you can then hire Dan Quinn

756
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: when all the interviews, all that has gone through.

757
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 3: That's what has to happen to college football.

758
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: Otherwise, like this whole handshake deal is gonna get blown

759
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: by by people who don't respect handshaksing.

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Speaker 3: That's what that is coming up next.

761
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Speaker 2: The most resprising result in the NFL today.

762
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Speaker 3: What does it mean? We'll break it down.

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Speaker 2: That's right, you are the man, Martin Wise, Ephraim Salaam

764
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: here for another two hours on Sunday Night breaking it

765
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: down for you. You got the start of the second quarter

766
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 2: in Sunday Night Football, Broncos with they field goal lead

767
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: on the Commanders. As you heard Dan Bayer just tell

768
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 2: you break it the dollar down. But also you said

769
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: it earlier in the show. Even any given Sunday, and

770
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 2: this week, it's been any given Thursday, Friday or Sunday

771
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: that we have seen upsets both in the points spread

772
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: and just also just in the way we view teams

773
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: right breaking down happening today watching the Carolina Panthers defeat

774
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Rams thirty one to twenty eight. They're

775
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: seven and six going into the bye for the Panthers.

776
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: And this was a team that earlier this season was

777
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: so bad that fans who did a podcast of about

778
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: the team said that they had to stop doing the show.

779
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: They were like, it takes too much out of us

780
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: to break down this bad football all the time, that

781
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: we actually will quit. And then the team when I

782
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 2: started going on the winning Street and now everybody says,

783
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: if you start the podcast back up, well, no one

784
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: will listen because they say the quitting of the podcast

785
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: is why the team started to win. I don't think

786
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: that's necessarily the case, but I do think what is

787
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: shaping up is a very interesting breakdown for the NFC Wildcard,

788
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: especially when you look at Tampa and Carolina having the

789
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: same record. That the way this will schedule. At the

790
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: start of the year, the NFC South was supposed to

791
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: be a one team, a one big league. They're not

792
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: supposed to have two teams in his thing. When the

793
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: Wildcard is all said and done, that's supposed to be

794
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: maybe from the East or from the West, something like that.

795
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: But between the Panthers the Buccaneers, and just those two teams,

796
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: but the Panthers and the Buccaneers, you might be looking

797
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: at two playoff teams.

798
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is crazy. The NFC South has notoriously been

799
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: a void of.

800
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 4: Multiple talented teams for quite some time. But when you

801
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 4: look at the Carolina Panthers, I remember earlier in the

802
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 4: year I made comments like, it's early, it's too early

803
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 4: for them to be positioned in themselves for the first

804
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 4: pick in the draft, which it felt like, I don't

805
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 4: know what's happened.

806
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: I think.

807
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 4: Carolina is in a precarious situation because the more they

808
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 4: win and the possibility of them.

809
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 3: Going to the playoffs.

810
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 4: Now they play the Saints, they have the Bucks, the Seahawks,

811
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 4: and the Bucks again, they can win that division.

812
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: The division is.

813
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: Right there, and you have an injured Baker Mayfield right

814
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 2: now too. The problem is if you win the division,

815
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: it's the people who are there stay there. That is

816
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: a big problem for Carolina, namely at the quarterback position,

817
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: because now you have to make a decision on Bryce Young.

818
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: Do you sign him to a multi year deal paying

819
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: him upwards of thirty five forty forty five million.

820
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Speaker 3: Dollars a year.

821
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Speaker 4: Are you put you put yourself in a position where

822
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 4: you won't have a high draft pick now and so

823
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 4: so now you have to really be like, okay, okay,

824
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 4: what are we doing are we? It's Bryce our guy?

825
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: Now?

826
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 4: Bryce is your guy, and everybody's like, yes, we believe

827
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 4: in him. Then okay, but for my money, I'm not

828
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 4: quite sure you're ready to mortgage the next five years

829
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: on Bryce Young as your guy. Now he's resonated and

830
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 4: he's galvanized at locker room. Don't forget he was benched

831
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 4: and his position and his resilience coming back from that

832
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 4: is something to be said. But now you have to

833
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 4: make a decision. You're going to have to decide is

834
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 4: he the guy or not? Moving forward for at least

835
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 4: the next four or five years. This is a tough

836
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 4: situation to beat because if they do beat Tampa, they

837
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 4: split with Tampa, they're gonna beat the Saints. And now

838
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 4: you're looking at a situation where you're like, oh, all right,

839
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 4: there are ten wins. They may win the division, they

840
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 4: may get a playoff home game. I mean, that's a

841
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 4: dangerous place to be for them.

842
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 3: The decision on real level of self assessment honesty.

843
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: Yes, because as well said, okay, it's true the Carolina

844
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 2: Panthers right now seven and six. It's true, the Carolina

845
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: Panthers at the start of the day beat the team

846
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 2: that was in the one seed in the NFC.

847
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 3: All that is true.

848
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: But it was a thirty one to twenty eight game,

849
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 2: and it gave you had to pick six to your point.

850
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 4: But you gotta listen, look at this, Listen, this is

851
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 4: real man. You ever heard of survivor pools? Sure, survivor

852
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 4: pools are worth a lot of money. I'm talking about

853
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 4: ten thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars, depending on

854
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 4: how bag the survivor pool is.

855
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Speaker 2: And if you're like the five people in the world

856
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 2: that don't know because everybody knows about the gambling stuff. Now,

857
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: at the start of the year, you have access to

858
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: every single team in the NFL. You pick one team

859
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: to win each week, and after you picked that team,

860
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: you can no longer pick that team again. If that

861
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: sounds easy, I challenge you to do it from now

862
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 2: until the end of the season, and you will find

863
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: just how hard it is to pick a single winner

864
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: every single week.

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Speaker 4: The thing is, if you pick the wrong team and

866
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 4: your team loses, then you're eliminated, right, so it's literally

867
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 4: last man standing. My co host Mark Willard plays in

868
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 4: a couple of these survivor pools, and every week we

869
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 4: talk about how the Carolina Panthers have eliminated the field

870
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 4: in every Survivor pool. Oh yeah, because they started out abysmo.

871
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 4: But then you look and they've beaten the Cowboys, They've

872
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 4: beaten the that.

873
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: Was the Rico Da strap them up game. Then he

874
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: ran for like two hundred dge. You said they didn't

875
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 2: strap him up.

876
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 4: They've beaten the Packers, right, the Falcons, the forty nine Ers, no,

877
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 4: excuse me, sorry, the uh let me see what we got,

878
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 4: the Bills. Nope, they lost to the Bills, lost the Bills.

879
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 4: They beat the Packers, They beat the Packers.

880
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 7: They lost the Saints.

881
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 4: They lost it, but lost to the same with everybody

882
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 4: losen to the Saints. I don't know what's going on

883
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 4: with with with New Orleans. They need some help. But

884
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 4: if you were to pick forty nine Ers today, uh,

885
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: if if you pick which everybody, which everybody probably would

886
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 4: have picked, if you picked the Rams today, then you're

887
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 4: out of the survival pool and you're angry because it's

888
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 4: coming down to the wire. They are a trap that's

889
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: been set and now number one, you will never feel

890
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 4: like you can pick them in the survival pool because

891
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 4: you don't know which team is gonna show up.

892
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: I picked them to beat the Bells. Did you Buffalo

893
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 2: has trouble stopping the run? Yeah, Carolina runs the ball.

894
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: I thought it was elementary.

895
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 4: They get their asses kicked handed to them, you know, like,

896
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 4: you know, it seems like to me. But then they

897
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 4: go out and then they beat the pants, I mean

898
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 4: to beat the pack, so it's like, okay, well all right.

899
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 4: Then they have the Saints the next week, so okay.

900
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 4: Then the Saints beat them, You're like, okay, wait, what's

901
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 4: going on here? Then they beat the Falcons and okay,

902
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 4: or are they good? Then the forty nine ers beat

903
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 4: them right like, and it's it's one of those situations

904
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 4: where you just don't know who this team is and

905
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 4: what they're doing. It's difficult to tell, and they are

906
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 4: the bane of a lot of people's existence in survival pools.

907
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 4: I don't know what team they is, and their current

908
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 4: record right now has them literally.

909
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 3: Vying for the division lead.

910
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: Ifrom I saw today, the Panthers are seven and oh

911
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: straight up as underdogs, so they were underdog in each

912
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: game that they have won.

913
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 3: They were the underdog going into.

914
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: Like which let's talk about, right, the Panthers shouldn't be

915
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 2: favored over many teams, you know, But like when I

916
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: had picked the Panthers and the points against the Packers,

917
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: but it was more the Packers aren't this good. The

918
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: Packers can't be this much better? Right, right, right, that's

919
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: the math on it. It's like, no, because I'm of

920
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: the belief that there's no team in the NFL ten

921
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: points better every single week than another team.

922
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 3: Right just by the way the whole thing is set up.

923
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: Now, maybe every so often you'll get a Max Brosmer

924
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 2: a sighting or Brosmer. I'm sorry if I miss announced

925
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 2: that. That's okay, I won't have to learn it. But you know,

926
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: like every once in a while you see one of

927
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 2: those and you're like, oh, we just have a non

928
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback playing on the other side. That's why this

929
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: thing is going to be a twenty seven point blowout

930
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 2: right right. That the other team's literally not going to score,

931
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: right that rarely happens in the NFL. Now on the

932
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 2: Rams side of things, would you say this is a

933
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: blip or a trend.

934
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 3: No.

935
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 4: I really thought coming into this game the Rams are

936
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 4: world beaters. That defense of the young defensive line Matthew

937
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 4: Stafford received the ability to run the ball.

938
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this is.

939
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I would have took the Panthers and the

940
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 4: points because that was a hefty points for it for them.

941
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 3: And I know they fight hard. I didn't know why

942
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 3: the spread was the way.

943
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 4: It was, but I surely expected the Rams to handle

944
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 4: their business as one of the top teams, if not

945
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 4: the top team in the NFC. Like, I really thought that, Okay,

946
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 4: the Rams are going to handle their business. I was

947
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 4: ten and a half. Right, that's a lot, man, that's

948
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 4: a lot. Now I've ten and a half.

949
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: Now. This is the thing that I find interesting is

950
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: I think that this was a I try to do

951
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: a better job of this. I really try to do

952
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: a much better job of this as somebody who's handicapping

953
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: these things. The Panthers defensive staff, a lot of that

954
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: defensive staff had connections to McVeigh Rightley, Jonathan Cooley's defensive

955
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 2: backs coach he coached defensive backs under McVay. Right, if ever, oh,

956
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator coach under McVay. I just wonder if

957
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: this was a scenario where they just knew what matt

958
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: Stafford and some mcvagh wanted to do, and that's how

959
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: you end up with Like, that's how you end up

960
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 2: with a guy who hasn't thrown an interception in a

961
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: month and a half with a pick six, right, because

962
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: it's just like, no, we just know what you're gonna

963
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: try to do, Like it will beat.

964
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 4: You to your spot. Yeah, Matthew struggles today. It they

965
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 4: definitely had his number. They were well coached, they were prepared,

966
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 4: they were ready. It's very rare that you rush for

967
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty two yards, your quarterback throws for

968
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 4: almost two fifty and you lose a game. But you

969
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 4: throw those two interceptions in their one pick six and

970
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 4: you know, you look at Bryce did fifteen for twenty

971
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 4: two hundred and six yards three touchdowns. Where did this

972
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 4: come from? And you know, not only and what a

973
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago or last week or whatever he

974
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 4: threw for four hundred and something yard Like this is

975
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 4: I don't know who this guy is, and neither does

976
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 4: the Carolina brass upstairs. They have of real decisions to

977
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 4: make coming down the stretch about you know, the direction

978
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 4: that this organization is going to be and moving.

979
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: Forward, especially because you consider second half. For sure, I

980
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 2: think both in the fourth quarter, two fourth down touchdowns.

981
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 2: Now you say two oh six. Now you add these together,

982
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 2: seventy six of those two six. So the run game

983
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: was doing a lot of lifting here. Yeah, But Jalen

984
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: Cocher thirty three yards fourth down conversion for a touchdown,

985
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 2: and then Tech mcmellan, the rookie out of Arizona, caught

986
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: the forty three yard of that one that's ended up

987
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: stealing a game for Carolina.

988
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 3: It's just.

989
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I cannot. I cannot put a

990
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 4: bead on who Carolina is and who they will end

991
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 4: up being. So I mean, hell, they could win out

992
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 4: all right, Like we we could be sitting here the

993
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 4: last week of the season and like, oh my god, at.

994
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 3: Least finished three and one.

995
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, And I've given up

996
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 4: trying to analyze them and come up with any information

997
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 4: that would lead to someone picking them or not. I

998
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 4: stay away from them. But I would have took them

999
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 4: into points today. That's just ten and a half points.

1000
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 4: Is it's crazy talk as hard as they play or

1001
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 4: have played sometimes right, I don't know.

1002
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 2: So they say the season starts around Thanksgiving. That's when

1003
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 2: you really need to start playing your best ball. I

1004
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: know that this first year head coach would have taken

1005
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: the stand things as they are right now, but even

1006
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: he's got to be surprised about what nobody in the

1007
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 2: world thought. We'd be looking at this on November thirtieth

1008
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: and this would be what we see.

1009
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 3: We'll get to that in just a minute.

1010
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 2: Martin Weis's Ephram Salaam, Sunday Night, Fox Sports Radio. Martin

1011
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 2: Weiss Ephram Salaam, coming to you as the Thanksgiving how

1012
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: they wraps up moving into Christmas.

1013
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: I hate to be a gridge, but I look at

1014
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 3: the NFC standing z from right now. I rubbed my eyes.

1015
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: I double check because right now I see the Chicago Bears.

1016
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: What the Chicago Bears? I say, who? Inform miss November

1017
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 3: thirty at there first place in the NFC, I say who? Now?

1018
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: I did think that they were going to beat the Eagles,

1019
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: but I thought that again, like we were talking about

1020
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: last segment that was more of an indictment on the

1021
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 2: Eagle than it was a clap in the right direction

1022
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 2: for the Chicago Bears. But sitting atop this, I thought

1023
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: going into this IT season was going to be a

1024
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 2: two team race through the Packers and the Lions. Well,

1025
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 2: a third challenger has entered the chat. Not only had

1026
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 2: they entered the chat, they look the best right now

1027
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 2: of all three, maybe when you consider the other three

1028
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: that are in competition for the division.

1029
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 4: I think, much to the surprise of everyone, the Ben

1030
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 4: Johnson effect has been immediate.

1031
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 3: Now.

1032
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 4: Everything we got coming out of training camp early in

1033
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 4: the year at the practices was they are not on

1034
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 4: the same page, and shout out to them. They never

1035
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 4: let that sidetrack them. Caleb Williams is playing tremendous football

1036
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 4: right now. One thing he really doesn't do is he

1037
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 4: really doesn't turn the ball over, which is one of

1038
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 4: the number one things you need for your quarterback not

1039
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 4: to do is to be careful with the ball.

1040
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: And so.

1041
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 4: I see them shocking a lot of people like with

1042
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 4: with with the Rams lost today and the Bears win

1043
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 4: on Friday on Black Friday, the power dynamic is shifting

1044
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 4: in the NFC.

1045
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 3: Because they beat.

1046
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 4: The top of the food chain in terms of the

1047
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 4: Eagles is as much malign as that Eagles locker room

1048
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 4: is and and everything that's swirling around there. There were

1049
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 4: the cream of the cross, the defending Super Bowl champions,

1050
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 4: and they, you know, put foot to butt two. They

1051
00:58:55,200 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 4: were physical, they were up to the challenge they with

1052
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 4: the Cardiac Bears. But in that game they decided, hey,

1053
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 4: it's our time, we're here, we belong. You better start

1054
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 4: paying attention to us. And that's exactly what happened. You know,

1055
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 4: twenty four fifteen on the road against the defending Super

1056
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 4: Bowl champions. That's that's impressive. They ran for two hundred

1057
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 4: and eighty one yards.

1058
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 2: That's the one that's like, good lord man, okay, guys,

1059
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: two eighty one yards against that Philly's front seven Jayalen

1060
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,439
Speaker 2: all the first round draft picks up this. Every time

1061
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: they draft somebody from Georgia, they're like, they can't let

1062
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: them get getting all pros. They're looking for another guy

1063
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: named Jalen to rush the passes. They can't find them,

1064
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: and so to like I said, foot to but.

1065
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 4: To out physical one of the most physical team in

1066
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 4: the NFC.

1067
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 3: I think is a statement win.

1068
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 4: Now they've they've won a lot of games last second,

1069
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 4: and Caleb Williams has been great in the fourth quarter,

1070
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 4: putting drives together and getting victories. But they set out

1071
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 4: on Black Friday to make a statement, and now the

1072
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 4: world's listening.

1073
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 3: If you're not, it may be too late. It may

1074
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 3: be too late.

1075
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 4: They have a huge game next week against the Packers

1076
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 4: in Green Bay. Whether it's probably gonna be a little inclement,

1077
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 4: but they're from Chicago. They're okay with inclement weather, right,

1078
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 4: they better be. Then they have the Browns, the Packers again,

1079
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 4: the Niners, and the Lions. I can't count them out

1080
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 4: of any of these games. I really can't. I just

1081
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 4: I can't count them out of any of these games.

1082
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 4: I know this Packer game is going to be monumental

1083
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 4: because it's it's you know, we thought, like you said,

1084
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 4: we thought the Lions in Green Bay will be battling

1085
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 4: it out for that division. That's not the case. It's

1086
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 4: coming down to the to the Bears in the pack

1087
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Speaker 4: and going on the road and beating green Bay in

1088
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 4: Green Bay. It'd be huge in December, it'd be huge.

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Speaker 3: It's big.

1090
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Speaker 2: You may remember Ben Jonson's opening press conference are one

1091
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Speaker 2: of those around it.

1092
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 3: He said, I really enjoy beating him at lafloora twice

1093
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 3: a year. So we'll see if you were able to

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01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 3: cast that check in.

1095
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: We saw two records set today in the four o'clock

1096
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 2: window of the NFL, both of them like damn, that's

1097
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 2: impressive unless you're the Pittsburgh steel.

1098
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 3: Is like, why'd you do that? You should tackle somebody

1099
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 3: coming up next.

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01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: We'll get to that, but first let's kick it over

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01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: to Dan Byers updates on Sunday Night Football.

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01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, guys, a couple of records being broken. Also a

1103
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 6: hand being broken today and that's one of Chargers quarterback

1104
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 6: Justin Herbert.

1105
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 5: He had a break in the back of the hand

1106
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 5: and I'm going to have a procedure done them.

1107
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 8: And I know at these these the stuff as they come.

1108
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 6: That was Chargers head coach Jim Harbaugh after they beat

1109
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 6: the Raiders today thirty one to fourteen at the Sobering

1110
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 6: News about Herbert, who told reporters he expects to play

1111
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 6: in Week fourteen against the Eagles, that is on Monday

1112
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 6: Night Football on Sunday Night Football right now. Commanders and

1113
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 6: Broncos in a low scoring fair after Denver kicked a

1114
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 6: couple of field goals from Will LUTs.

1115
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Speaker 3: The Commander's answer Hurston Gold at the eight handle Rodriguez

1116
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 3: tenness fo.

1117
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 2: Touch down, touch down again, this is no Bit three.

1118
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 3: You can arrest up.

1119
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 4: You'll running the ball down there, Crol, you'll come with

1120
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Speaker 4: the batter round Quintrica.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Chris Rodriguez, the touchdown run on the Big one

1122
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 6: hundred of the Commander's radio network. They're up on the

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01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 6: Broncos seven to six at the two minute warning. In

1124
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 6: DC Bill stop the Steelers today, twenty six to seven.

1125
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers asked after the game if the team was

1126
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 6: prepared for the game against Buffalo.

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Speaker 8: I believe in the coaching staff. I believe in Mike

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01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 8: Thumlain's why I came here. And players need to take accountability,

1129
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 8: my self included, and I will and I will continue to.

1130
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 3: I got to play better.

1131
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 8: But there's eleven stars on offense, eleven on defense, plus

1132
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 8: with the personnel groups that we run, and we're gonna

1133
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 8: happen Monday to Saturday. We can be really proud of

1134
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 8: our best Monday to Saturday and go out and play

1135
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 8: our best game and take control of the Division.

1136
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 6: Seahawks are nine to three. They beat the Vikings today

1137
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 6: twenty six to nothing. And other news on the gridiron

1138
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 6: in the college game, you guys talked about it earlier.

1139
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 6: Lane Kiffen leaving Ole Miss to be the head football

1140
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 6: coach at LSU not the only coaching move today. Michigan

1141
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 6: State fired Jonathan Smith after two seasons. In the Detroit

1142
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 6: Free presses, they will hire former Northwestern coach Pat Fitzgerald

1143
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 6: to lead the Spartans football program. John Summerross leaving Tulane

1144
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,439
Speaker 6: to coach at Florida, Auburn's hired South Florida as Alex

1145
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 6: Goulish as their new head football coach. And in the NBA,

1146
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 6: Peyton Pritchard forty two. Tonight, Celtics topped the Cavs one

1147
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 6: seventeen to one to fifteen Jalen Johnson forty one for

1148
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 6: the Hawks in a double overtime win against the Sixers

1149
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 6: one forty two to one. Thirty six Knicks to care

1150
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 6: the Raptors one sixteen to ninety four, and the thunder

1151
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 6: are now twenty and one. They avenge their one loss

1152
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 6: of the season, which was in Portland earlier this year,

1153
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 6: they toped the Blazers tonight one twenty three to one,

1154
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 6: fifteen guys, back to you, I.

1155
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: Can't believe we live in the world where Peyton Pritchrick's

1156
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 2: going for forty.

1157
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 3: I know this is NFL Sunday, but that's crazy.

1158
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: That's nuts. Fire and wise ephis allat thanks Dan for that.

1159
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 2: As we come to you from the box of sports

1160
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 2: at radio Studios.

1161
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Speaker 3: So Dan touched on it.

1162
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 2: He actually plays with Aaron Rodgers sound from it, saying

1163
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 2: players need to take accountability, adding because the Pittsburgh Steelers

1164
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to take control of the division. They

1165
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: all were sitting around Thanksgiving table as they watched Doub

1166
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 2: Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals beat the Baltimore Ravens pretty convincingly. Yeah,

1167
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: and said, do you know what, we have an opportunity

1168
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 2: to do, an opportunity to go out there and to

1169
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 2: take a stranglehold on this AFC North Baltimore has been

1170
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: on this run. It was this five game win streak

1171
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 2: for this Stealers started out one for the Baltimore Ravens,

1172
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 2: started out won and five, finished six and five on

1173
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 2: that run before they dropped to six and six. Buffalo

1174
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 2: missing both tackles. We got TJ. Whill, we got Nate Herbig.

1175
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: We in good shape. No, we are not in good shape.

1176
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: The Bills rushed in this game for two hundred and

1177
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: forty nine yards, breaking the previous single game mark of

1178
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 2: two thirty one, which was set by the Cleveland Browns

1179
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, which was a game that went to overtime,

1180
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: And off the top of my head, I'm believing featured

1181
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb potentially, Like you know what I'm saying, It's

1182
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: like this. I'm not saying that James Cook is not

1183
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: a good back. I'm saying that James I think James

1184
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 2: Cook is a very good player. But the idea that

1185
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 2: James Cook was the running back one in a record

1186
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 2: breaking rushing before Dormans is one that to me says

1187
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: more about the opponent than anything.

1188
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was.

1189
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 4: This is the time of year where you must impose

1190
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 4: your will, your offensive defensive line will dictate where you go,

1191
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 4: and Buffalo down both tackles coming into a situation where

1192
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 4: you know Pittsburgh's front seven was just licking their chops

1193
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 4: to get after him. I'm in a little pick them

1194
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 4: league with brian O, my old co host, and he

1195
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 4: picked the Steelers. We picked three games every week against

1196
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 4: the spread. Right now, I'm two and oh and I

1197
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 4: picked the Broncos, so we'll see.

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Speaker 3: He's oh and three.

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Speaker 4: He picked the Stealers, and I asked him why would

1200
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 4: you pick the still and he said, well, they were

1201
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 4: down both of their tackles, which I was like, okay, uh,

1202
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 4: Buffalo was down both of their tackles, and so he

1203
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 4: figured that, you know, they'd make it hell for Josh Allen,

1204
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,919
Speaker 4: and I just I wasn't sold. And they came out

1205
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 4: and they dominated the Pittsburgh Steelers at home, and it's

1206
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 4: it's not only embarrassing for the organization. Mike Tomlin is

1207
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 4: a defensive specialist. The Steelers just haven't been stealing this year.

1208
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 4: And I think you're at a situation now where your

1209
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 4: division is so bad you can still win it. Like

1210
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 4: it's so bad, you can still win this division.

1211
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 2: It's incredible how it seems like nobody wants to win

1212
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 2: this They don't right, Like to me, I did not

1213
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: feel this way going into the season.

1214
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 3: Right.

1215
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 2: I figured that Pittsburgh would be ten and seven like

1216
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's always is. But this ten and seven gotta win

1217
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 2: the division. He's like, you can't after a while. Like,

1218
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 2: I think that it is lame to bang on Mike

1219
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 2: Tomlin because he has a winning record, right, Like, he's

1220
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: never had a losing season. I think that that is

1221
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 2: a criticism that is made only of the very good.

1222
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying, Because it's like, yeah, sure,

1223
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 2: Sean Payton's had losing seasons, but you know, but like

1224
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 2: everybody's had a losing season, but like you know what,

1225
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 2: they also have been fired. You know what I'm saying,

1226
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 2: I had to leave their jobs right now. You can

1227
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 2: argue maybe Tomlin should have been fired here or there

1228
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 2: or whatever, but in order to make the dance, you

1229
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 2: have to have double digit wins in the division whatever.

1230
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 2: The Steelers were often than I have that, But the

1231
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 2: way the Ravens fell off this year to start the season,

1232
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: if Pittsburgh gets caught again with another second half collapse,

1233
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 2: at a certain point in time, something's gotta change. And

1234
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 2: I'm not I understand that Mike Tomlin would have a

1235
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 2: job very quickly after leaving the Pittsburgh Steelers, which is

1236
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 2: why I would suggest the Pittsburgh Deelers should attempt to

1237
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 2: trade Mike Tomlin I would not fire Mike Tomlin. Well,

1238
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: they don't ever fire coaches. They've never fired a coach.

1239
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 2: They've only had three coaches in history, which is incredible

1240
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 2: of the franchise. They don't fire coaches. I think last

1241
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: year it was the first year, or maybe second year.

1242
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 2: It's two years ago. They fired a coordinator in season,

1243
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: Matt Canada. It was like the first time in at

1244
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: least the Tomlin ara.

1245
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had done it, and he was sad to

1246
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 3: do it, but he had to do it.

1247
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 4: I don't know offensively who the Pittsburgh Steelers are, and

1248
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 4: that's my problem. They're not a running team and they're

1249
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 4: not a passing They will not pass the ball down

1250
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 4: the field. Aaron Rodgers was ten for twenty one, one

1251
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 4: hundred and seventeen yards. It's all quick, quick, five point

1252
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 4: six yards of pass.

1253
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 3: That's nothing.

1254
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 4: Year kids survive doing that with no running game. They

1255
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 4: don't have a running game. Eighteen carries for fifty eight yards,

1256
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 4: that's three point two yards to carry. You.

1257
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 3: Who are you offensively?

1258
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 4: When Pittsburgh has had their success this year, their defense

1259
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 4: had been turning the other team over in a miraculous way.

1260
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 4: If that's not the case, you find yourself getting hit

1261
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 4: across the face twenty to six to seven at home

1262
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 4: in a game that you need, and they're still not

1263
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 4: below five hundred, they're six and six.

1264
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I'm at a place where the Pittsburgh

1265
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 2: I don't know how you get over the hump of

1266
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 2: being just average because, like I put it, because they

1267
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 2: are trending towards below. Oh yeah, because the team is old,

1268
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 2: The team is expensive, Like it's not. I don't see

1269
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 2: it getting any better. If you can't Tomlin voodoo magic

1270
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 2: this thing up to be able to stay afloat atop

1271
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 2: the AFC North, then I don't know what to tell you, right,

1272
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 2: because at this point in time, you've cycled through a

1273
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 2: million different quarterbacks, right, And you talk about you don't

1274
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: know what the identity of the team is. Yeah, you

1275
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 2: would think the identity of the team is supposed to

1276
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 2: be Aaron Rodgers.

1277
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 3: That is not the case. That's not the case.

1278
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to bang on him for the

1279
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,799
Speaker 2: playing with a broken left to today.

1280
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this is not just today, this exact the

1281
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 4: entire season exactly. A DK Metcalf is like, okay, I

1282
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 4: don't get any passes down the field.

1283
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 3: Nothing.

1284
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 2: This is what's wild, and I know they didn't necessarily

1285
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 2: have the game that they have had continually throughout this year.

1286
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba entering today led the league in

1287
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 2: receiving yards. George Pickens entering today was second to the

1288
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: league in receiving yards. DK Metcalf spoiler alert is neither

1289
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 2: first nor second anything in receivers.

1290
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 3: That they were.

1291
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 2: They said they moved off Seattle moved off of DK

1292
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 2: Metcalf to feature jssent, and then Pittsburgh moved off of

1293
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 2: George Pickens to feature DK Metcalf. And it's just one

1294
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 2: of those is like, hmm, when you point at some

1295
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: of these decisions that teams make, he just wonders, like,

1296
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 2: was this the moment where you got fired? Was this

1297
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 2: the moment where you got fired? Because I think this

1298
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 2: might have been the moment where you got fired, and

1299
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 2: it's not until that point I think today it may

1300
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 2: not have been the it was the final nail in

1301
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 2: the coffin, because the moment when this guy got fired

1302
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: was the draft two years ago. But today you cannot

1303
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 2: do today what happened and keep your job. By the

1304
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 2: end of the year, I'm predicting right here that there

1305
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: was a coach busy on Thanksgiving that will be home

1306
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: by Christmas.

1307
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 3: Who is it? I'll tell you Coming up next.

1308
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: Martin Wis's e from Salam Fox Sports Radio. Martin Wise,

1309
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 2: he from Salam coming to you live from the Fox

1310
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios, was just talking to Ephim about I

1311
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 2: got a new couch. It's amazing, it's amazing. No one

1312
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: should have to watch football on an uncomfortable couch.

1313
01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 3: I agree, and.

1314
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 2: Raheem Morse likely will soon be watching football from his

1315
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 2: very comfortable couch. I can't imagine he's got an uncomfortable

1316
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: All the money that he's made coaching football, he's got

1317
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: to have at least.

1318
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 3: One comfortable couch in the house.

1319
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 2: But I personally kind of thought that that regime was

1320
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 2: over when they drafted Michael Pennix. Unless Michael Penix turned

1321
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,440
Speaker 2: into I don't know, Tom Brady.

1322
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 3: Well not even Tom Brady. It turned into Booniicks, it

1323
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 3: turned into uh, Caleb Williams, I turned into Jaydon Daniels.

1324
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 3: Are turned into right, like hell, even maybe a Stroud CJ. Stroud.

1325
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 3: But like that's what it was gonna take.

1326
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 2: Right if, in fact, Michael Penix looked like he had

1327
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: any setback on the way to that. It can't work

1328
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 2: because there'll be too many blowhards on the radio, like

1329
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: me saying, well, why'd you sign Kirk Cusins three years

1330
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars? If you can just draft the quarterback?

1331
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 2: You don't have so much money. Everybody's got the same amount.

1332
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 2: You See, that's the problem here. This isn't baseball, where

1333
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,759
Speaker 2: if I want to sign six first basement, it shouldn't

1334
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 2: have any way impact on my ability to sign a

1335
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:16,480
Speaker 2: third basement. Right, That's not how this thing goes. But today,

1336
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 2: losing to the Jets, I think with in theory, your

1337
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: backup quarterback who could have been a starter, right, I

1338
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 2: think that is one of those moments you'll look back

1339
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: and say, yeah, I had a feeling after this one

1340
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: that this thing might have been.

1341
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 3: Over with, Like I really do.

1342
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 2: I really do think that, especially the Jets, not being

1343
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,919
Speaker 2: the Jets are the team that, to say it politely

1344
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 2: or figuring it out, trying to figure it out. Far

1345
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: from figuring it out, the Jets are in their own category.

1346
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 3: I think.

1347
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 4: It's the anomaly category. It's similar to Cleveland, right are

1348
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 4: I can't even say Tennessee because a couple of years

1349
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 4: ago they were the number one seed in the AFC.

1350
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 4: So it's it's one of those things where if it's

1351
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 4: gonna go wrong, it's gonna go wrong for the Jets

1352
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 4: or the Browns are like it. That just fits.

1353
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 2: It's like Murphy's Law at Murphy's Last all day Long

1354
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 2: Jets version.

1355
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 3: And so.

1356
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 4: I mean, you rushed the ball for one hundred and

1357
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 4: sixty seven yards, then you're the Falcons and you lose

1358
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 4: the game to the Jets.

1359
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 3: That's not good. It's not good.

1360
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 4: And you know, speaking of Kirk Cousins, well he will

1361
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 4: be your quarterback for the rest of this year and

1362
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 4: next year. So you know, Michael Pennix is on his

1363
01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 4: third ACL tear problem me.

1364
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 2: From you only got two knees, yea, and each each

1365
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 2: knee only has one a cl Yeah.

1366
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 4: Buddy, that's tough. It's tough. Tough situation six and the

1367
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 4: last seven the Falcons tough. Yeah, it's been ugly. It's

1368
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 4: been ugly. And once you start losing guys like in

1369
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 4: the locker room.

1370
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 3: And stuff like that.

1371
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 4: Once once, once you can see the effort not being

1372
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 4: what sure, then it's like, oh, Okay.

1373
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 3: You gotta.

1374
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 4: As a GM, you gotta really pay attention to that

1375
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 4: because when you have a case in point, I thought

1376
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 4: the Jets were wrong for firing Robert Sala because they

1377
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 4: would fight, they would show up, and they lost a

1378
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 4: lot of bad ways. But every week those guys would

1379
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 4: come out and compete level was very high. They were

1380
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 4: just a quarterback away. They still haven't found that quarterback.

1381
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers wasn't the answer, Tyrod Taylor or anyone else.

1382
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:16,560
Speaker 4: Justin fields, that is not the answer. But they competed

1383
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 4: at a high level because they still bought into the coach.

1384
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 4: So when you're having a skid like this, you gotta

1385
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 4: watch how guys the body lane was on and off

1386
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 4: the field, like you gotta start paying attention to that,

1387
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:41,759
Speaker 4: because that'll let you know if you've lost the locker

1388
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 4: room and you need to make a change.

1389
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:46,520
Speaker 3: That's very important.

1390
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 2: Do you think that that's where the Falcons are at

1391
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 2: this point? They just don't look to me.

1392
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 4: Remember how good that offensive line, I mean that defensive

1393
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 4: line was earlier in the year. Yeah, the young kids,

1394
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 4: the two picks. It just it just didn't seem like

1395
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 4: where are those guys now? So it's it's an effort

1396
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 4: thing for me.

1397
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 2: So and maybe it's not the coach, Maybe it's maybe

1398
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 2: it's the the GM because they don't own their first

1399
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 2: round pick that's going to Los Angeles.

1400
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 4: Well, the coach is the one that gets people prepared

1401
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 4: to play. True, So the GM ain't got nothing to

1402
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 4: do with that. The owner don't have nothing to do

1403
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 4: with that. That is controlled by Raheem, the coaching staff.

1404
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 4: If you still got if guys aren't bought in, if

1405
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 4: they don't believe.

1406
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 3: That there's a reason.

1407
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 4: Outside of just getting paid or contract year or something

1408
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 4: like that, then look at case in point, look at

1409
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 4: the Carolina Panthers. They believe right, they believe they gonna

1410
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 4: go out there and they gonna play hard. There's a

1411
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 4: bunch of misfits and you know also rans and guys.

1412
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 4: People didn't want quarterback who's not quite sure if he's

1413
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 4: a starter or not. But they are going to play

1414
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 4: hard and now they're in position to win the very

1415
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 4: same division we're talking about coming up next.

1416
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 2: A shake up at the top of a division. Two

1417
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 2: teams that neither one of us expected to be here

1418
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 2: at this time. We'll get to it next.

1419
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 3: Again.

1420
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 2: The introduction fitting because I am not a former NFL badass.

1421
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,959
Speaker 3: I'm a civilian. I'm Martin Weiss.

1422
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 2: The NFL badass next to me's e from Salam and

1423
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 2: he from If I had a fractured fibula, I'd be

1424
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 2: in the hospital for months. Daniel Jones had to fractured

1425
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 2: February and went fourteenth to twenty seven for two to

1426
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 2: one and two touchdown passes. However, season low point total

1427
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 2: for the Colts season our second lowest yards output for

1428
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 2: the season, second only the last year Daniel Jones two

1429
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 2: four eleven went under pressure. Sauce Gardner leaves the game

1430
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 2: with a calf injury. Sauce says it's not an Achilles

1431
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 2: Saw a video of Saw saying himself, it's not an Achilles,

1432
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 2: just a strain.

1433
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 3: But again, all Achilles injuries starts somewhere right.

1434
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 2: It's like a minor gunshot, wound, small fracture. It's all

1435
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 2: minors of both those who aren't experiencing it right. And

1436
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 2: then on the flip side, I think some of the

1437
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 2: funniest clips of just reaction memes from the season have

1438
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,799
Speaker 2: been Liam Cohen reacting to some of the incomplete passes

1439
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 2: of Trevor Lawrence has thrown, but they find themselves tied

1440
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 2: right now top the AFC South and the Jacks have typebreaker.

1441
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still don't trust the Jacks. I don't personally.

1442
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 4: I don't think Trevor Lawrence is the guy. I think

1443
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 4: he has spot he's spotty. He looks good every now

1444
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 4: and again. But the reality of it is, I mean

1445
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 4: we've been waiting for five years now.

1446
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 2: Every game if you watch Trevor Lawrence, like just focus

1447
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 2: on his throws or go to all twenty two and

1448
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,759
Speaker 2: just watch it, he'll have five throws that are like, oh,

1449
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 2: there's no quarterback better than him, and five throws that

1450
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: say who's the backup?

1451
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:29,839
Speaker 4: And that's what you can't have. You can't build something

1452
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 4: off of that level of inconsistency. But you know, speaking

1453
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 4: of Daniel Jones and that Colts offense, that was, you know,

1454
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 4: a powerhouse juggernaut. Don't sleep on the Houston Texan and

1455
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 4: that that front seven A had, that front four, Danil

1456
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 4: Hunter and Will Anderson, Oh my goodness, as Josh Allen,

1457
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 4: those boys are are ferocious. They make it difficult for

1458
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 4: you to run the ball. They take their Jonathan Taylor,

1459
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 4: who's been a bell cow best back in the league

1460
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 4: by far. They held him to eighty five yards on

1461
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 4: twenty one carries. They took away the threat of the

1462
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 4: play action, which made it really tough for Daniel Jones

1463
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 4: to do his thing. Now, Daniel Jones is having a

1464
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 4: phenomenal year. The Colts are having a tremendous year. But

1465
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 4: the Texans are peaking their head around the corner and

1466
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 4: trying to stay claim in that division. And it's going

1467
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,719
Speaker 4: to be interesting coming down the wire with all three

1468
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 4: of those teams in position to.

1469
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 3: Win the division.

1470
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 4: This is going to be this is when football is good,

1471
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 4: and it's a couple of divisions like that to where

1472
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 4: you don't know what's going to happen coming down the stretch.

1473
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 4: They play the Colts again, the Texans play the Coats again,

1474
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 4: and so we'll see the last That last game of

1475
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 4: the year will be worth something, I can tell you that.

1476
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 4: So it'll be interesting to see just what that looks like.

1477
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 4: I mean, the Colts and the Jaguars, they split everybody

1478
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 4: beating up on Tennessee, so they don't really you know,

1479
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 4: they don't really count. But the Texans got one. They

1480
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 4: beat the Colts today and they play them again last

1481
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 4: game of the season, but next week they got a

1482
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 4: tough game at the Chiefs. Then they have Cardinals, Raiders, Chargers,

1483
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,719
Speaker 4: and then end up with the Colts. So the Texans

1484
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 4: can go in a little bit of a run here

1485
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 4: and find themselves in position to to win that division

1486
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 4: get a home playoff game. I will say again, the

1487
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 4: first time I heard Will Anderson.

1488
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 2: Talk as it this season was after that Thursday night

1489
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 2: football game, the Josh Allen eight sac masterpiece.

1490
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 3: And that's one of those guys that he's what they

1491
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 3: talk about when it got like, oh he loves football, yeah,

1492
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 3: oh yeah.

1493
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 2: Like he seems like when he wakes up in the morning,

1494
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 2: he's brushing his teeth. He's like, oh, I cannot wait

1495
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 2: to hit the other team's quarterback today.

1496
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 3: Shiver. He's like, what can I do on first down

1497
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 3: to get the third and long? Like you know what

1498
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like it's a spin rip. Yeah.

1499
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 2: He is one of those types of guys you gotta

1500
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 2: be careful when you're using the platitudes about because they

1501
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: sounded salty.

1502
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's a moobster. He's an animal.

1503
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 2: It's like, wait a minute, right exactly, And on the field,

1504
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 2: not in reality exactly on the field, right, but h

1505
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 2: to the point, this Texans defense, it is and has

1506
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 2: been under Demiko Ryans ferocious. Yes, you get three wins

1507
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 2: with your backup quarterback, and I feel like that is

1508
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 2: the type of thing that can really galvanize a team,

1509
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 2: because I mean, I just know when I'm sitting there

1510
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 2: watching the game.

1511
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 3: Like when I saw Trey Lance come out there in

1512
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 3: the second half.

1513
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 2: I had a moment of oh no, Like I'm not

1514
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 2: a Chargers fan.

1515
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying.

1516
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: I don't.

1517
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 3: I don't have any vested interest in this thing.

1518
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 2: But it's just like, damn, if he's hurt, it's gonna

1519
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 2: be a lot harder for them to get down what

1520
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 2: they need to get done. You see teams like San

1521
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 2: Francisco with their backup quarterback. You see teams like Houston

1522
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 2: with their backup quarterback stringing together wins. Systems matter, man,

1523
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 2: and get your matters. I get it's fun to do.

1524
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 2: Should he be the starter? Shitt? I No, I'm definitely

1525
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 2: not doing it. In Houston, Davis Mill starts sixteen games.

1526
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 2: That's how they got seat right, right, right right. But

1527
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 2: the fact being, when you have that moment of damn,

1528
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 2: my quarterback is gonna miss a month. Now, what are

1529
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 2: you Baltimore? Where you lose five games or four games

1530
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 2: in a row. Can you go two and two? Can

1531
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 2: you go three and Oh?

1532
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 4: Well, that's what the the backup quarterbacks job is to

1533
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 4: split however many however many games. Right your starter is out,

1534
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 4: the backup quarterbacks job is to split those games. That's

1535
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 4: the purpose. That's the point. Now it's icing on the cake.

1536
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 4: If you can come out ahead. He missed five games,

1537
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 4: you're three and two in those games. That's gravy. A

1538
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 4: lot of quarterbacks have built careers off company. Oh you

1539
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 4: have great systems. Remember Matt Flynn, Remember Jacoby Brissett did it?

1540
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppolo right, like Teddy Bridgewater, Teddy Bridge, brock Osweiler,

1541
01:27:54,960 --> 01:28:00,080
Speaker 4: like guys have have made it, have gotten opportunities to

1542
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 4: start after being backups and coming in and winning and

1543
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 4: keeping a team on track is very important. It's probably

1544
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 4: one of the most important ancillary positions that in a

1545
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 4: swing tackle that can play both right and left tackle

1546
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 4: on offense on the football field, especially offensively speaking.

1547
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 2: I would think that to me, backup quarterback and swing

1548
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 2: tackle are in my top fifteen most important positions on

1549
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 2: the football team.

1550
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, because it could go all bad. Not quite ten. Yeah,

1551
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 3: I'll put it like this.

1552
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 2: They're top fifteen, they're not quite ten, but neither one

1553
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 2: of them is fifteenth, right, saying like, I'd rather have

1554
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:46,520
Speaker 2: a good swing tackle than like a good week side linebacker.

1555
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and my swing.

1556
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 2: Tackle is never gonna see the field unless things are

1557
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,759
Speaker 2: going badly, something awful happens.

1558
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 3: I will scheme around Kenneth Murray.

1559
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Right, I'll figure that one out,

1560
01:28:58,439 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I can go Maybe I

1561
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 2: could try for Logan Wilson, But if I don't have

1562
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: somebody to block these monsters in front of me, very

1563
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 2: few teams have two left tackles on the roster.

1564
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, man, it's a hard position to find. Yeah,

1565
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 4: it is a tough one.

1566
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 2: And it's like that's why obviously, when you get one,

1567
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 2: you hold on to them like you can. But you

1568
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 2: would have thought the Colts make this move for Sauce Gardener.

1569
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 3: And I know that Daniel Jones has a broken fibula.

1570
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 2: And again I've said this already, this is the type

1571
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 2: of thing that would have me a simple mortal man,

1572
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 2: you know, in the hospital for months, right.

1573
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 4: Curled up on your brand new couch, which you're blanky.

1574
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 2: There's no way I'd get up. You want me to

1575
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 2: do a radio show, you need to bring it here.

1576
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 2: I need to do it here, guys, I need to

1577
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 2: do it here, brand new couch. I'm just me and

1578
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:51,759
Speaker 2: the couch. So I don't think that the last two games,

1579
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 2: if you make the trade for sauce gardener, like you do,

1580
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 2: you think you have your quarterback in house. Yes, I

1581
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 2: don't think the last two games are surely changed. He's

1582
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 2: that opinion of Daniel Jones. However, I do think it

1583
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 2: may have changed some of the money he might have

1584
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:05,679
Speaker 2: come coming to his wife.

1585
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 4: Well, it depends on how they finish up, because we

1586
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 4: saw this happen last year.

1587
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 3: With Sam Darnold. They were on a bender.

1588
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 4: I'm talking about a tear, and it came down to

1589
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 4: the last two games, which cost him about one hundred

1590
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 4: million dollars, right, even though he did sign a three year,

1591
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 4: one hundred plus million dollar deal with Seattle. If he

1592
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,719
Speaker 4: gets the number one seed and then wins that play

1593
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 4: that playoff game and plays well, then he's looking at

1594
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 4: two hundred million dollars deal somewhere five year, two hundred

1595
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 4: million dollars or something like that. But it didn't happen

1596
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 4: like that. And so you know, Daniel Jones has to

1597
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 4: be aware that they're still in position, and he's still

1598
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 4: in position to extend his life or his career all starter,

1599
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 4: his football life as a as a starter. It's very

1600
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 4: important that he's mindful of that because people will quickly

1601
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 4: be like, oh, nah, that's the Daniel we know. I mean,

1602
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 4: and he's been scorching earth though. That dude has been

1603
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 4: on fire this year.

1604
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 2: To take it to the point, you just brought it up,

1605
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 2: Sam Donald, he has four interceptions against the Rams. You

1606
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:14,799
Speaker 2: got linebackers coming out saying, no, essent.

1607
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 3: Our guy.

1608
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 2: We're a good guy, because they know as soon as

1609
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 2: he throws four, three or seven in a game, it's like, oh,

1610
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 2: it's Sam saying goes.

1611
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 3: And they would say they were right there.

1612
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's something about a guy in the

1613
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 4: locker room that everybody believes in no matter the UPSTI downs,

1614
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 4: nobody's perfect. You know, all time great running backs fumble,

1615
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 4: all time great receivers drop passes. It's if guys in

1616
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 4: the locker room. Don't care about that, because everybody makes mistakes.

1617
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 4: Guys in the locker room care about how you lead,

1618
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 4: will they will they run through a brick wall for you.

1619
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 4: That's what they care about. How do you respond? How

1620
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 4: do you?

1621
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 2: How do you when when the chips are down? You

1622
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, What are you? What are you doing?

1623
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 3: Yes? So we just had a little bit of a

1624
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 3: trickeration from the Denver Broncos. Don't do that. Just hand

1625
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 3: the ball off of though it just and the round.

1626
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 2: Turned to reverse turn into a pitch back to bow Knicks,

1627
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 2: which netted Denver a single solitary yard.

1628
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 3: Second and one. Just get the first down and now

1629
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 3: it's third and one. But here we are.

1630
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 2: We all saw Ephraim in this game, saw a catch

1631
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 2: that has the Internet of blade. Oh it is bringing

1632
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 2: back memories of another prime time catch. The names in

1633
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:40,600
Speaker 2: this will not necessarily as famous, but to play very impressive.

1634
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 2: It's tough being a cornerback with the last name Moss,

1635
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:45,679
Speaker 2: because every time something happens, they're gonna.

1636
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 3: Be like, oh, you got most that's not a smart play.

1637
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna look in sounn eye football in just a

1638
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:54,799
Speaker 2: minute Bow Knicks and the Broncos surviving that pass attempt.

1639
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 2: We'll dive into this game coming up next. Barn Weiss,

1640
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 2: ephra Salam Fox Sports Radio Martin Ephraim Salam here on

1641
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,639
Speaker 2: a Sunday night, Sunday Night Football in full swing. If

1642
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:08,000
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1643
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:11,599
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1644
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:15,479
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1645
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:18,000
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1646
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 2: can even provide a review.

1647
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 3: Again.

1648
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:22,839
Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio where ever gets your podcast.

1649
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 2: You'll find today's full show posted right after we get

1650
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 2: off the air. You know, Ephim, it's interesting going into

1651
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 2: the Christmas holiday season, right because you end up hearing

1652
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 2: a lot of the same songs, like that was Just

1653
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 2: Christmas by Donnie Hathaway. No, right, so it's like that

1654
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 2: song came out at least forty years ago, do you

1655
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?

1656
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 3: But you still play it and you see all the

1657
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 3: same stuff.

1658
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 2: That Corona commercial that just aired, it's a guy whistling,

1659
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 2: Oh Christmas Tree.

1660
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 3: Oh Christmas Tree. It's twenty seconds long.

1661
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 2: It's a kind of a hut on the beach and

1662
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,639
Speaker 2: then the palm tree lights up. That commercial has been

1663
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 2: on for at least twenty seven years. You know how

1664
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 2: I know. I got in the most trouble I ever

1665
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 2: got in when I was in like eight years old,

1666
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 2: and I got out of getting yelled at by my

1667
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 2: mom and dad and I walked out and that commercial

1668
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 2: was on TV.

1669
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 3: This how old? This was?

1670
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 2: This goes That commercial was on TV on v H one,

1671
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 2: which was playing the MC hammer Story.

1672
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:25,799
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's.

1673
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 2: Just sentence that if you're over thirty you understand if

1674
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 2: you're under like, what is TV used to do stuff

1675
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 2: like that? Like show programs? You know what I'm saying.

1676
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,799
Speaker 2: It's like used to flip channels and watch.

1677
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 3: Commercial Hammer Story. Yeah, it just come out. It was

1678
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 3: new to me. Can't touch this. I was like, why

1679
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,599
Speaker 3: didn't everybody like too pumps in a bump? I don't

1680
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:50,719
Speaker 3: get it. What was the beef? Anyway?

1681
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 2: Trey Lin burks at one of those moments where, because

1682
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 2: we do this other time sitting here watching games on

1683
01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 2: the air, you're normally not talking about the that's on

1684
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:04,600
Speaker 2: the air because they have played by play for that.

1685
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:08,599
Speaker 2: We're talking about something else. But every so often you'll

1686
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 2: see the game happen, and you'll like, my jaw dropped.

1687
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 2: It's like, did he just catch that?

1688
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 3: Yes? He did? Trailing Burks.

1689
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 2: The only words I think you can usually describe it

1690
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 2: as obj esque.

1691
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was an amazing touchdown, grab tight coverage. He

1692
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 4: extended all the way back one hand, never touched it

1693
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 4: with the with the left hand, and pulled it in.

1694
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:32,640
Speaker 4: It was unbelievable.

1695
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 2: Over Riley Moss, who is the much maligned defensive back

1696
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 2: for the Denver Broncos, He's got the unenvious assignment of

1697
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 2: having Patrick's Artan be the cornerback, be his teammate.

1698
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 3: So like, it's all coming to you.

1699
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 2: He gets so much more work than he's supposed to

1700
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 2: get coming you wait, he gets so much. You know,

1701
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask Carry Roose about that one day. You'll wait,

1702
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 2: because he played with Daryl Reeves, right, so I bet

1703
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 2: it was. So do you know what I'm saying? It's like,

1704
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 2: what's that like?

1705
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 3: You to go? What is that like?

1706
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 2: Because you know, of the twenty seven completions of in

1707
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 2: a game, twenty four of them are going to be

1708
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 2: made on your side of the field. And hang on there,

1709
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 2: good luck, buddy, You're hanging on there for dear life.

1710
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:18,919
Speaker 3: But so far in this matchup.

1711
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 2: I know that the Lakers are playing as well, but

1712
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 2: so far this in this Broncos Commanders game, I think

1713
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 2: you see kind of Sean Payton and what we were

1714
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 2: talking about earlier about this Broncos team.

1715
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 3: He's not in love with this offense.

1716
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 2: And I think you see it as some of the

1717
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 2: play calling and some of the run, the way that

1718
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:39,599
Speaker 2: he calls the run versus the way that.

1719
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 3: He calls the pass.

1720
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 2: I think you see that he knows he's got bow

1721
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 2: Knicks as his quarterback and not Drew Brees, no matter

1722
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 2: what he says postgame or on Wednesday in this press conference.

1723
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think anybody has Drew Brees a quarterback.

1724
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 4: You gotta remember it took Tom Brady to play forever

1725
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 4: to break Drew Brees's passing records. I mean, you want

1726
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:01,640
Speaker 4: to talk about a prolific pass of the football, there

1727
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 4: are very few. There are no Drew Breeses out there.

1728
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 4: His size, his stature, the way he could spin the

1729
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 4: ball there. You know, So if you're expecting another Drew

1730
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:18,679
Speaker 4: Brees as a head coach, and you know, knowing Champagne

1731
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:20,720
Speaker 4: and I know that's not the case. I just know

1732
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 4: he wants to maximize whatever bo Knicks can be, wants

1733
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 4: to give him an opportunity to be as great as

1734
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 4: he can be based on his skill set and how

1735
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 4: he's able to perform. But there's no Drew Brees lurking

1736
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 4: in the woods getting ready to pop out nowhere. You

1737
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:46,759
Speaker 4: want to talk about spin that thing.

1738
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 2: Listen, And honestly, even to the end when he could

1739
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 2: only really throw like thirty yards in the air, I

1740
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 2: was the decision.

1741
01:37:56,400 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 4: I think Drew Brees made more sixth seventh round undrafted

1742
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 4: free agent receivers viable than any other quarterback.

1743
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 3: That's real. Now you have me thinking that sound you

1744
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:14,600
Speaker 3: hear the wheels turning to your point. Jimmy Graham was

1745
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 3: an undrafted free agent.

1746
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 2: Marcus Colston was the last player ever drafted from Hofstra University.

1747
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 3: How you like that seventh rounded Who else was it?

1748
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 3: Who else was it? I don't. I'll go with it.

1749
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 3: Just I'm telling you, man, he it was just he

1750
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 3: you were.

1751
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,600
Speaker 4: He put the ball exactly where it needed to be,

1752
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 4: so it make it It made it easy for you

1753
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:40,600
Speaker 4: to do what you're supposed to do.

1754
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 3: And I think the running route, the ball will be there.

1755
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 3: That was it? That was it?

1756
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Actually I heard RG three say something about that

1757
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 2: on the Herd.

1758
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 3: The point that he.

1759
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 2: Made was some of Kleb Williams and his accuracy. RG

1760
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 2: three said, accuracy is a myth. Well RG three wasn't

1761
01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 2: very accurate. Listen, so hey, I try not to shoot

1762
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:04,480
Speaker 2: the messenger and moments such as that because.

1763
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 3: You also have to be mindful where the message is

1764
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 3: coming from.

1765
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:08,639
Speaker 2: But if I was, because if I can't message at all,

1766
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 2: then you know, shooting the messenger. But the point that

1767
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 2: he made was like, sometimes the safety will be in front.

1768
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 2: You got throught the ball a little behind. Sometimes it's gotta.

1769
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 3: Be Yeah, but accurate throw, but I based on where

1770
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 3: the defender is.

1771
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 2: I think to your point, like the point that you're

1772
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 2: making is like, accuracy is about putting the ball exactly

1773
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 2: where it's supposed to be right.

1774
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily a.

1775
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,759
Speaker 2: Like you can look at the fundamentals of a quarterback

1776
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 2: and be like, there's a checklist of where things are

1777
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 2: supposed to be. Like sometimes accuracy to me seems like

1778
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 2: more of a feel. Is that fair what you say?

1779
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 2: It's the fair assessment of of the concept or though.

1780
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 4: No, because it it has to be. Chemistry is a

1781
01:39:56,840 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 4: real thing between receivers and quarterbacks. Sure, that's why they

1782
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 4: always talk about it, right, Well, they haven't had a

1783
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:08,720
Speaker 4: chance to work together. So all of that. The chemistry

1784
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 4: you have with your quarterback, that's what determines how accurate

1785
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 4: you're gonna be. If I know before my receiver comes

1786
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 4: out of the break, I can let this ball go

1787
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:21,679
Speaker 4: and he's gonna come out of the break exactly where

1788
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 4: he needs to be, that's a level of trust that

1789
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 4: is unbelievable for a quarterback and a receiver or a

1790
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 4: tight end or anybody like that. And you must be

1791
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 4: accurate as a passer. It's not overrated. And any passer

1792
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 4: telling you that that's the case the probably didn't have

1793
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 4: the house, probably didn't have a prolific passing career at quarterback.

1794
01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 2: Now, I just want to ask you this because I

1795
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 2: saw this happen twice today. And again, I didn't watch

1796
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 2: every single snap of every single game, but I saw

1797
01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 2: it happen at least twice, and this happened a little

1798
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 2: bit more and more. Jalen Hirsch and the Eagles got

1799
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 2: stopped on the twist push on the black Friday right

1800
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:05,840
Speaker 2: fumble the.

1801
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 3: Ball in the top called for progress.

1802
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 2: So the change that we saw a lot of teams

1803
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:12,599
Speaker 2: implement is like, okay, well we'll have our tight end

1804
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 2: take the snap and run the twist push that way.

1805
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:20,559
Speaker 3: So two different tight ends fumble the snap today. Is

1806
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 3: this to me?

1807
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:25,679
Speaker 2: It just feels to me, this is just big brain NFL.

1808
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 2: I watched Dom Brady run his sneak just fine with

1809
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 2: no help for years, manning so on and so forth.

1810
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 2: To the quarterback sneak was something that existed for years.

1811
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 3: It was just fine. Right.

1812
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 2: You had guys that were good at it and some

1813
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:40,599
Speaker 2: guys that weren't so good at it.

1814
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 3: But like it was for.

1815
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 2: Sure a skill to find which a gap was gonna

1816
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 2: be a little softer, yes, and fall into that one and.

1817
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 3: Sometimes even wiggle up a bit until nobody touches you.

1818
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:58,799
Speaker 2: But now, and the infinite wisdom of NFL play callers

1819
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 2: and installers, they said, let's hand the ball to the guy.

1820
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 3: Who we don't even throw the ball to all the time.

1821
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 3: Like I'm not. It's one thing.

1822
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,600
Speaker 2: If it's a running back catching a direction snap, I

1823
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 2: can understand that a little bit more right, he's a

1824
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 2: player who participates in ball handling, play action, fakes, so

1825
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 2: on and so forth. A tight end is blocking half

1826
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 2: the time. I just don't know how where's the advantage,

1827
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 2: where's the win?

1828
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 4: Sometimes you can overthink, I'll coach yourself. Sometimes you can

1829
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 4: be too creative, That's what I'm saying. That's just like

1830
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 4: galaxy brain thinking.

1831
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 2: Is that just like, well, if the Eagles can do

1832
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 2: it and they're unstoppable, then maybe we can do it too.

1833
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 3: And it's like, well, do they have what you have?

1834
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:57,639
Speaker 3: Do you have what they got? Yeah?

1835
01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:01,799
Speaker 4: I think we'll see, we'll see, We'll see that tush

1836
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:09,439
Speaker 4: push officiated different coming up because it's a situation where

1837
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 4: people are realizing that number one, they're false starting every

1838
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 4: time the guard to leave before the ball leaves. Sure,

1839
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 4: and so I think now, because we have the camera

1840
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 4: angles we have, they're gonna start to officiate that different

1841
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 4: They won't ban it, but they're going to start to

1842
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 4: officiate it differently.

1843
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 2: I love the fact that they're calling fall starts on

1844
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 2: it the second one. And again, I look at football

1845
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 2: academically physically, never did it myself academically. The concept of

1846
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 2: forward progress being stopped. I cannot stand it. What does

1847
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 2: that even mean?

1848
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 3: Like, I don't.

1849
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 2: Understand how Now, It's one thing if you want to say, okay,

1850
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 2: the impact from the tackle has driven a player back

1851
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 2: five yards, and you don't want guys picking guys.

1852
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 3: Up and throwing them backwards five yards.

1853
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 2: However, to me, if we're gonna call forward progress being stopped,

1854
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 2: then we should probably call forward's progress being stopped the

1855
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 2: moment contact is made with the defender, because it's all

1856
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 2: about not It's all about that defender not dragging this

1857
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 2: guy backwards, right, It's all about this defender not.

1858
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 3: So what do you mean you could go forward and try.

1859
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 2: To gain another yard? No, no, no, no, no, we'll stop

1860
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 2: it right here. We'll stop it right here. That right

1861
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 2: there with dead the whole touch push, because they ran

1862
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 2: a touch push today. You can't tell him that's the

1863
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:39,960
Speaker 2: first down. You can't see what the ball is see,

1864
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 2: and to me, that's another one. That's another thing they

1865
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 2: could do. We are not able to correctly ascertain where

1866
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 2: the ball is because we can't see it. It's surrounded

1867
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 2: by too many people, and everybody in the NFL will

1868
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 2: be like, oh, I can't believe do that.

1869
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 3: Do that?

1870
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 2: And I bet you Nick Sireann, he goes to shave

1871
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 2: his head again. Let's kick it over to Steve the

1872
01:44:57,479 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 2: Seger fresh from the charger.

1873
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 3: Steve, how are you? How are you doing? Okay?

1874
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 7: Thank you? And if the NFL, like World Cup soccer,

1875
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 7: just put some sort of censor in the ball, it

1876
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 7: would answer all of these questions. Soccer can answer whether

1877
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:14,759
Speaker 7: the ball goes over the goal line specifically because they've

1878
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:16,839
Speaker 7: used the technology that's available.

1879
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 3: You know, they put the chip in the ball.

1880
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 2: But today I heard I think it was Tony Romo

1881
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 2: or probably not tell Jim Nance say they can use

1882
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 2: the hawkeye thing to measure the distance from a first down,

1883
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:32,679
Speaker 2: but cannot use it to measure the spot of the ball.

1884
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 7: No, it's still human with the spot, which is like

1885
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 7: what And as far as the push, I mean, even

1886
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:42,680
Speaker 7: the Eagles aren't quite the same with a different offensive

1887
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 7: line in a lot of games this year. On that,

1888
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 7: but I can recall Philip Rivers, a six foot five

1889
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:51,280
Speaker 7: quarterback to thirty two hundred and forty pounds, would refuse

1890
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 7: to sneak probably his last ten years in the league.

1891
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 7: No quarterback sneak. And I did hear the reference of

1892
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 7: Hofstra if this was Jason Smith on a weeknight, you

1893
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 7: would immediately get Quebette New York jecho, ure there you go.

1894
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 7: Did you see people? This Traylon Burks touchdown pass? Unbelievable, astounding?

1895
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 7: You are right, Objesq reaching back with one arm out stretched,

1896
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 7: one handed catch his first touchdown catch in the league

1897
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 7: in three years.

1898
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 2: I was about to say, I didn't want to be

1899
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 2: I didn't want to be disrespectful.

1900
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 7: You used to be with the Titans.

1901
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 2: But I'm like, that might be trailing Burks' fourth career touchdown,

1902
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:29,759
Speaker 2: our fifth career touchdown.

1903
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:32,679
Speaker 7: Ever, apparently it was second career touchdown catch.

1904
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 3: Wow.

1905
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:37,680
Speaker 7: Okay, so and the man himself, Odell Beckham, seeing that,

1906
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 7: did tweet out thirteen thirteen, their two numbers and snag

1907
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 7: and we had a lot of football to discuss. Can

1908
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 7: I just mention that the Lakers scored forty six in

1909
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 7: the first quarter tonight against New Orleans, not just they're

1910
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 7: high for any of this season, top five for any

1911
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 7: Laker first quarter ever franchise history. We still have two

1912
01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 7: minutes to go till halftime. It's seventy four forty Lakers

1913
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 7: over New Orleans, which apparently will be three and eighteen

1914
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 7: after tonight Luka Donsich with twenty one points, seven rebound,

1915
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 7: six assists, only one turnover in the first half and

1916
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 7: Lebron James is out tonight, sitting out due to the

1917
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 7: foot injury. Injury management end quote. They have ended the

1918
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:20,839
Speaker 7: third quarter of the Sunday Night NFL game at Washington

1919
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:23,720
Speaker 7: and the Broncos are leading the Commanders twenty to fourteen.

1920
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 7: Bo Nicks with a touchdown pass of eleven yards late

1921
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,719
Speaker 7: first half to Courtland Sutton, who's only been targeted three

1922
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 7: times but as three catches fifty four yards and the TD.

1923
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 7: The Burks touchdown was early third quarter for a brief

1924
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 7: Commander's lead of fourteen to thirteen. Since then, the Broncos

1925
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 7: have answered with about a six minute touchdown drive eleven

1926
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:44,799
Speaker 7: plays seventy two yards.

1927
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 3: RJ.

1928
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,600
Speaker 7: Harvey a one yard TD, and Denver's up twenty to

1929
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:51,640
Speaker 7: fourteen to start the fourth quarter. Harvey ten carries just

1930
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:55,719
Speaker 7: twenty eight yards but the one TD, Marcus Mariota one touchdown,

1931
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 7: one interception For a Commander's team that's lost six in

1932
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 7: a row, Denver currently has won eight straight. The Chargers

1933
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 7: in LA beat the Raiders thirty one to fourteen. Raiders

1934
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 7: have lost six straight. Their two to ten LA quarterback

1935
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 7: Justin Herbert played through a broken left handy left surgery.

1936
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 7: On Monday, Buffalo won at Pittsburgh twenty six to seven.

1937
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 7: Seattle over Minnesota twenty six to nothing. The Vikings fall

1938
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 7: to four and eight. They had to use Max Brosmer

1939
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:24,480
Speaker 7: at quarterback today as JJ McCarthy's in concussion protocol. Brozmer

1940
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 7: was sacked four times through four interceptions, including a pick six.

1941
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:32,839
Speaker 7: Not a good day for Matthew Stafford, three turnovers including

1942
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 7: a pick six and a late fumble, and the Rams

1943
01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 7: six game winning streak is over Carolina at home beat

1944
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:40,639
Speaker 7: the Rams thirty one twenty eight, and that loss moved

1945
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 7: Chicago at nine to three into the one seed. Road

1946
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 7: wins for Houston and San Francisco Jacksonville as well home

1947
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 7: wins for Miami, Tampa Bay and the Jets, who beat

1948
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 7: Atlanta twenty seven to twenty four on a fifty six

1949
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:56,639
Speaker 7: yard field goal on the final play. Coach Lane Kiffin

1950
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 7: left Ole miss for LSU and a seven year deal

1951
01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 7: news diference. Monday, Mississippi's defensive coordinator Pete Golding was promoted

1952
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:07,840
Speaker 7: to head coach Florida hired Tulanes coach John Sumrall, who

1953
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 7: will stay with his current team through at a playoff.

1954
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 7: Michigan State fired coach Jonathan Smith. New Mexico gave coach

1955
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 7: Jason Eck an extension. Auburn's new coach is Alex Golish

1956
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 7: from South Florida, and Arkansas's new coach is Ryan Silverfield.

1957
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,599
Speaker 7: For Memphis, yes the regular season ended yesterday for most

1958
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 7: teams by the way, Texas A and M after the

1959
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 7: Friday loss, fell to number seven in the New AP

1960
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:32,680
Speaker 7: Poll in the NBA. Atlanta in double overtime win at

1961
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:37,000
Speaker 7: Philadelphia one forty two, one thirty four, Jalen Johnson forty

1962
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:39,719
Speaker 7: one points. Tyrese Maxey had forty four in the loss.

1963
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:42,760
Speaker 7: Joel emb did play at eighteen points in defeat after

1964
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:46,559
Speaker 7: missing nine games with a sortnee fourth quarter Underway Denver

1965
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 7: twenty Washington fourteen.

1966
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 2: Back to you, Steve, did you catch Mark Stoops on

1967
01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 2: the way out the door?

1968
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:57,479
Speaker 7: The Kentucky guy who signed through what twenty fifty Yeah.

1969
01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 9: Thirty seven million dollars buyout. I'm old enough to remember

1970
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 9: thirty one. Just for the record, it just seems like, okay,

1971
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 9: he's been there thirteen years.

1972
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:09,559
Speaker 3: So yes, yes, thirteen seasons.

1973
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this report for front Off of Sports

1974
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 2: that says you got to buy it over thirty seven million.

1975
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 2: I gonna argue it's plus thirty million whatever it's gonna be.

1976
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 7: By the way, this new Florida guy is a former

1977
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:20,799
Speaker 7: Kentucky assistant John Sumroll.

1978
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:23,640
Speaker 2: But I'm just I'm old enough to remember. I had

1979
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 2: to look this up. Remember when Jimbo Fisher was let go.

1980
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 2: We were here. It was me and VJ and you

1981
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 2: enormous by it, and it was all about Texas A

1982
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 2: and m Do they get Mike Yoko or Mark Stoops?

1983
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 3: And Mark Stoops tweeted out.

1984
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:46,879
Speaker 2: He says, I was contacted for a potential opportunity this weekend,

1985
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 2: but after celebrating a big win against our rivals, I

1986
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:52,759
Speaker 2: knew in my heart I couldn't leave.

1987
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,640
Speaker 7: And then he was asked about are you stepping down yesterday?

1988
01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:59,519
Speaker 7: He said one hundred percent no. But how things changed

1989
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:01,160
Speaker 7: quickly College athletics.

1990
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 2: I mean, and I know, look, I get that it's

1991
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 2: it's very and I'm not even saying you shouldn't be

1992
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 2: banging on Lane Kiffin for the lane Kiffin has handled

1993
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 2: this terribly again however, right again, right, no surprise there.

1994
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 2: The Lane Kiffin would would would maneuver a coaching a

1995
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:25,160
Speaker 2: job situation without necessarily the most class are the best

1996
01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 2: way about it.

1997
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 7: Pretty soon there will be fifteen SEC schools completely and

1998
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:30,679
Speaker 7: totally mad at him.

1999
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 2: But like, how do you imagine if Lane kifn didn't

2000
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 2: take this LSU job and all miss loses six games

2001
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 2: next year?

2002
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 3: And you know what I'm saying, like like.

2003
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 2: Texas Mike's Mark Stoops was right, Texas A and m

2004
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 2: is what lost one game on the year, two games

2005
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 2: on the year, and they have a great fan base,

2006
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:55,719
Speaker 2: all the money, all all the money in the world

2007
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 2: to put behind their football program. You can't tell me

2008
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 2: that sitting today, Mark Stoops is looking at the mirror

2009
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 2: like damn, I should be in college station.

2010
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 7: I think all of this, and I agree with the

2011
01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:09,679
Speaker 7: earlier comment that it's just the whole schedule of college

2012
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:12,680
Speaker 7: football that a guy can take another job in the

2013
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 7: middle of the season when they've worked, I mean, they

2014
01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 7: as a team have worked to get this point. When

2015
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 7: has Mississippi ever done this what they've done this year

2016
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:23,120
Speaker 7: quite literally number and you know this is potentially blowing

2017
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 7: it up. I say potentially, because we haven't seen them

2018
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:27,679
Speaker 7: on the field without the head coach. Stay tuned, we'll

2019
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 7: have a playoff I assume at Mississippi. Right, we'll find out.

2020
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 7: But it's just another example of college athletics being rudderless.

2021
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:40,000
Speaker 7: There is no leader, there's no there. There there's an

2022
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:43,439
Speaker 7: NCAA office, but nobody's actually in charge, especially when it

2023
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 7: comes to football.

2024
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 2: They're very toothless. And yo, hell, Michigan won a national championship,

2025
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:53,040
Speaker 2: went undefeated. The coach only coach fifteen games. Hardball only

2026
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 2: got eleven of them, twelve of them, you know, sir

2027
01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 2: On Moore excepting and got some of those wins too.

2028
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 3: So maybe the.

2029
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 7: NFL there's a central office and these are the weeks

2030
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 7: you can have interviews, and these are the playoff team's

2031
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 7: assistants you can talk to, and this is when and

2032
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 7: it's just still at all levels, the wild wild West.

2033
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 3: Do you know what else this would do?

2034
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:16,760
Speaker 2: If you did it this way, with the way that

2035
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:18,439
Speaker 2: we both agree is should be done.

2036
01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 3: There should be a.

2037
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 9: Schedule, a hiring and firing caio, just like a transfer,

2038
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 9: very much like.

2039
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 3: In the NFL.

2040
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 2: Right, because before remember in the NFL, if you were

2041
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:29,719
Speaker 2: interviewing a playoff coach, you had to do it that week,

2042
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 2: and all the NFL said.

2043
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 7: No, right, because he's still working, he's still with his playoffs.

2044
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 2: We're not doing that anymore. NFL said, we're not doing

2045
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:38,720
Speaker 2: it in that way anymore. And I'm I understand that

2046
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 2: there is probably some backchannel text messages sent here and

2047
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 2: there and there, but you know what, there's not a

2048
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:47,640
Speaker 2: fifteen hour interview that somebody had to fly across the

2049
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:50,120
Speaker 2: country to go sit for in the midst of preparing

2050
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:50,919
Speaker 2: for a playoff.

2051
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 3: But you know what it would do.

2052
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly probably wouldn't gotten fired until today, you know

2053
01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So, and I'm not saying that Brian

2054
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 2: Kelly should have kept his I'm I'll leave that out

2055
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 2: of it. What I am saying is, you had all

2056
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:06,720
Speaker 2: these kids who got recruited to this school, and it's

2057
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:09,760
Speaker 2: more transactional one year by year than ever. If all

2058
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 2: these kids who said I want to play for Brian

2059
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:13,880
Speaker 2: Kelly this year and they only get to do it

2060
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 2: for what six weeks? Seven weeks, yeah, it's.

2061
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:21,559
Speaker 7: Not the same as saying, well, I think of all

2062
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 7: those Raiders offensive players that thought they were going to

2063
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:25,120
Speaker 7: be playing for Chip Kelly.

2064
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 3: For No, it's not quite the same, not quite the same.

2065
01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:31,680
Speaker 7: My field goal of Washington Broncos up twenty to seventeen

2066
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 7: at Washington early for.

2067
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:36,040
Speaker 3: That's after a bow Nick's interception. To Bobby Wagner, you

2068
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 3: want to talk about still in the league?

2069
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 7: Still good?

2070
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 2: I said it a minute ago, I said Mary Yoda

2071
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 2: to Arth. That's an old sentence, add Bobby wager In, there's.

2072
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 7: A very very old still their leading tackler.

2073
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta love it, guys still being able

2074
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 2: to go ahead and get after it. Coming up next,

2075
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:53,760
Speaker 2: this team has added talking about still in the league.

2076
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 2: They've added older players are trying to fix some of

2077
01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:58,280
Speaker 2: this drama now.

2078
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 3: That they've dropped a few. I don't think that there.

2079
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 2: Is a fix. I'll get Ephraim's opinion on it. Coming

2080
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 2: to next. Martin Wis, Ephram Salam Fox Sports Radio. Alright,

2081
01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio Studios on a Sunday night,

2082
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 2: Martin Wise and Ephraim Salaam. Bo Knicks just took a

2083
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 2: third down sack. The Broncos punted back to the Commanders,

2084
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:29,200
Speaker 2: Washington still trailing Denver twenty to seventeen, But uh, I

2085
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 2: want to go back.

2086
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 3: To Black Friday.

2087
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:37,520
Speaker 2: If I may, with you, Ephraim, because I always find

2088
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 2: myself and I'm in this position kind of blessed because

2089
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 2: I didn't play and you did.

2090
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:45,240
Speaker 3: You're there, you lived it. I play like it on TV.

2091
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:49,800
Speaker 2: So I enjoy kind of asking you these questions in

2092
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 2: almost an interview way, because when I hear Nick Yearanni

2093
01:55:53,120 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 2: say the club will quote evaluate everything? Do they lose

2094
01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 2: twenty four to fifteen to the Chicago Bears, I said, okay,

2095
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 2: that makes sense, right. I like that I will evaluate

2096
01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 2: everything then see from the problem with these press conferences

2097
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 2: are all recorded, and if you watch a little while longer,

2098
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:18,560
Speaker 2: you'll hear Nick Sirianni say we're not changing the play caller.

2099
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 2: If I thought it was one thing, i'd make those changes.

2100
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:24,440
Speaker 2: Obviously it's a lot of different things. But I don't

2101
01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 2: think it's Kevin. Now I understand why most reporters don't

2102
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 2: do this, and I wouldn't either if I was there.

2103
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:33,280
Speaker 3: Just full disclosure.

2104
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 2: But the real jack hole part of me wants to say, okay,

2105
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 2: so you gotta evaluate everything except for Kevin Patulo, because

2106
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:44,600
Speaker 2: you just said you don't think it's him.

2107
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:47,200
Speaker 3: How much of everything are we evaluating?

2108
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 2: And I bet you if you had asked him, do

2109
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 2: you think it's the quarterback and be like, we're not gonna,

2110
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 2: We're not evaluating the quarterback.

2111
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:53,720
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, We're not gonna, We're not

2112
01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 3: We're not even So what exactly are we evaluating here?

2113
01:56:57,480 --> 01:56:57,640
Speaker 3: You know?

2114
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 2: I think I think I think it just be a

2115
01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 2: whole bunch of bluster, a whole bunch of stuff. I

2116
01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:07,200
Speaker 2: have to say because I'm not Marshall Lynch, and I

2117
01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 2: won't just say I'm just here so I won't get fine,

2118
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 2: But I gotta say something because I offense has to

2119
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:15,640
Speaker 2: score fifteen points or more than fifteen points, and damn

2120
01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 2: near a month it feels like we keep winning, but

2121
01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 2: now we're losing. So just from this point, I wonder

2122
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:24,480
Speaker 2: where did the Eagles go from here?

2123
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 4: I think they have an identity crisis. And what I

2124
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 4: mean by that is they had a formula and a recipe.

2125
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:43,600
Speaker 4: Now last year it was going to be hard to duplicate.

2126
01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:51,560
Speaker 4: It's hard to play that well, run the ball like

2127
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 4: they ran the ball and duplicate that the next year.

2128
01:57:57,480 --> 01:57:58,920
Speaker 4: It's just it's almost impossible.

2129
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 2: To do, I think without especially when you're bringing back

2130
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 2: a lot of the same guys, right, it's just the

2131
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:06,160
Speaker 2: way it's tear on the body.

2132
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:15,560
Speaker 4: I think the difference is their commitment to running the

2133
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:23,600
Speaker 4: ball has changed. I mean, say Kwon Barkley had thirteen carries,

2134
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:28,280
Speaker 4: it's almost four and a half yards of carry. Your

2135
01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:34,360
Speaker 4: commitment level to him last year was he's the guy.

2136
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 2: And what's interesting to that point, they've also traded for

2137
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:40,920
Speaker 2: Tank Bigsby, They've signed AJ Dillon like that.

2138
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:45,680
Speaker 4: But what happens is when you got the locker room

2139
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:52,560
Speaker 4: saying other things, it affects it right, like you've got

2140
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 4: a disgruntle receiver. The games they've force fed him, they've lost.

2141
01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 4: Just FYI, they've lost. And so if you're if you

2142
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 4: don't have an identity and you're trying or you do

2143
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:09,520
Speaker 4: have an identity and you're trying to be someone else,

2144
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:14,040
Speaker 4: every freshman who goes to college wants to reinvent themselves

2145
01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:17,080
Speaker 4: right and find themselves. I'm not being true to who

2146
01:59:17,080 --> 01:59:20,320
Speaker 4: I am, and so until they can be true for

2147
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 4: the who they are, then things are going to look

2148
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:28,320
Speaker 4: like this. And I think trying to placate one person

2149
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:32,760
Speaker 4: on a team is the opposite way of trying to

2150
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:35,280
Speaker 4: find or getting yourself back to who you are.

2151
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 2: I can't believe they did in trade them at the deadline.

2152
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:41,880
Speaker 2: I can't believe they in trade you and me, brother.

2153
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:49,000
Speaker 2: It just from a a a use of resources aspect. Right,

2154
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Speaker 2: you got a guy that could command like aj Brown

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Speaker 2: on the open market with command a ton, and you

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Speaker 2: got a number one receiver, right, Davontae Smith, especially the

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Speaker 2: way that you run offense. Davontae's Smith that could be

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Speaker 2: a number one in that offense. Never heard a word

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Speaker 2: from Davante. You know what's interesting, he says a lot

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Speaker 2: of the same stuff, is that it just doesn't get

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Speaker 2: the same like A J says, it was such that

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Speaker 2: it comes out a lot more well. But coming up next,

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Speaker 2: two guys, a lot of Chris Plank and Ardie Spaniard.

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Speaker 3: We're out.