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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, My name is Brad Rowland. We have a

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Speaker 1: bonus episode of the Hammer Territory podcast on this Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and it comes from the guys at Foul Territory. First,

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Speaker 1: you will hear them interview Dale Murphy, Braves legend for

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Speaker 1: twenty plus minutes. A fun conversation to hear from Dale.

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Speaker 1: Always good to hear from him, of course if you

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Speaker 1: are a Braves fan. And then after that a quick break,

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Speaker 1: and then it'll be John Smoltz, another Braves legend that

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Speaker 1: was recorded before the All Star Game, but you'll hear

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Speaker 1: kind of some of the remnants of that, but still

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Speaker 1: Smoltz is always very insightful of course of Braves legend,

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, et cetera. So two partsier first Dale Murphy,

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Speaker 1: then John.

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Speaker 2: Smoltz, legendary Atlanta ball player, two time MVP, seven time

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Speaker 2: All Star, a ton of Silver Slugger and Gold Glove

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Speaker 2: awards as well, Dan Murphy joining us, Dell, good to

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Speaker 2: see you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for saying by her. Yeah, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: It's it's been a lot of fun just being here

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Speaker 3: in Atlanta. You know, with the All Star Game, it's

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Speaker 3: a big celebration really of baseball and so uh. And

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Speaker 3: I've seen some old teammates and some old guys I

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Speaker 3: played against, and uh, the whole atmosphere. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: always fun to be here. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: You still could play? You look like you still can play.

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Speaker 4: I mean you are in shape.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, he says, Yeah, what what was that you said?

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Speaker 3: Get my megaphone? I have hearing it. Then you couldn't

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Speaker 3: hear anything. Pop it out. That's true. I didn't get

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Speaker 3: bood too much into Atlanta. It did happen in Philly.

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Speaker 3: I had good experience in Philly.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: They love you, but they let you know if you

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Speaker 3: need to pick your game up a little bit. But uh, anyway,

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Speaker 3: thank you a j I. I wish I could play.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's not a day that doesn't go by.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure we're all the same. You wish

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Speaker 3: you could put on that uniform and get out there.

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Speaker 3: Misted so much.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna jump right in. How are you not

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Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Thank you serious? I'm serious? Like, how are you not?

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Speaker 4: We rattled off some of your accomplishments.

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 4: How are you not in the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I knew when I retired, I had

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Speaker 3: a lot of people very optimistic, but you know, in

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Speaker 3: You know, I knew it wasn't going to be smooth.

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Speaker 3: But I was on the original ballot for fifteen years

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Speaker 3: when it was fifteen years, and you know, I'm thankful

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Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame recognized the guys in the seventies, eighties,

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Speaker 3: and nineties. They've they've changed the voting. So I'm on

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Speaker 3: that era committee, the Modern Era, and I'm eligible again

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Speaker 3: in December. I've been on it a couple of times,

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Speaker 3: making a little progress, so I appreciate the support and

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Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. I got a shot.

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Speaker 5: Good do you want it?

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Speaker 3: Like this? Like? Because I well, guys, what you mean? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think people once said, you know, one of the

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Speaker 3: requirements of being in the Hall of Fame is you

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Speaker 3: should think you belong. I think there's a spot there

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Speaker 3: for me, but you know, I'm not with a first

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Speaker 3: ballot guy, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think there's a spot there for me, and I'm blessed

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Speaker 3: in so many ways. It would be an incredible, exciting

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Speaker 3: And but you know, I'm kind of philosophical about it.

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Speaker 3: I would love that honor. That would be just it

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Speaker 3: would blow me away if it happened. I have a

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Speaker 2: So did you ever connect with a writer that didn't

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Speaker 2: I fall short? Did you ever catch an article where

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Speaker 2: they said, yeah, I'm not voting for him, he's on

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Speaker 2: the cuss But I'm gonna know. And here's why. There

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Speaker 2: are some writers that are also just the super small ballot.

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Speaker 2: They put one or people on there. They're in another category.

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Speaker 2: But was there anything that's stood out to you because

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Speaker 3: When they think the one thing people mentioned me and

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Speaker 3: it is true, my last couple of years there was

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Speaker 3: know I can't. There's no debating that. But that's all

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Speaker 6: By the way, Yeah over there and was off sometimes

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Speaker 6: instead of tacking on these you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a Hall of Fame. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: you just play, you play, you let things happen. You know,

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Speaker 3: I retired ninety three. I was ready to retire. But

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Speaker 3: you know, like I say, I have a lot of

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Speaker 3: people support me within the voters, and we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: This new ballot has helped a lot of us guys

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Speaker 3: that played predominantly in the eighties and can't think of

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Speaker 3: him now, but Lee Smith. I think Fred McGriff got

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Speaker 4: Yeah, who should have been in Yeah before Harold Bains Lee.

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Speaker 3: Should have been you know, Harold, And I think Alan Trammel.

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Speaker 3: You know. So what I guess what I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: say is I'm thankful Hall of Fame recognize that and

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Speaker 3: change the voting a little bit, because remember what happened

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Speaker 3: before you were all lumped in with veterans. There were

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Speaker 3: two thousand of us. Now they've split it up into

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Speaker 3: you did. So I'm thankful for that. I like that.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of this whole area that they

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Speaker 3: This battery and the thing the Braves did. As you

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Speaker 3: guys know, there's been people from all over the world

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Speaker 3: that's seen this is the model. What can I say

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Speaker 3: except it's I've heard the word used earlier. Electric. That's right.

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Speaker 3: I was here for the World Series in what was it,

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Speaker 3: twenty one, Yeah, twenty one. There were fifty thousand people

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Speaker 3: think they bumped it to forty seven. The whole thing,

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Speaker 3: the energy created and just the the the financial model,

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Speaker 3: I played in an air with around stadium and ten

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Speaker 3: people are trying to figure out that all the next

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Speaker 3: stadiums and of every sport are going to be modeled

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Speaker 3: they're going to try to retrofit some kind of mixed

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of very jealous owners across the

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Speaker 3: Right, And another little h tidbit is is they don't

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Speaker 3: have to share that revenue. Yes, everything inside the ballpark

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Speaker 3: is shared, and this is all Braves and Liberty Media.

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Speaker 4: So they need to pay you more.

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Speaker 3: Yes, me, me, yes, I keep telling people, you know,

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Speaker 3: I played a day for half of what they're making.

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Speaker 3: Of course half is twenty five million. But anyway, it's.

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Speaker 2: Also fought for them to be in this spot.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, it all works together. They can afford to

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Speaker 3: don't their payrolls steadily gone up. Now Liberty Media is

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Speaker 3: thoughts about luxury tax and things like that. But the

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Speaker 3: point is it doesn't guarantee as you guys know, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't guarantee you a World Series championship. But to be competitive,

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Speaker 3: the Braves have kind of created this thing, it all

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Speaker 3: There's some other ball clubs I want to talk about

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Speaker 3: I'll just leave it at that. But the Braves are,

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Speaker 3: you know, doing it great. This is incredible. The old

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Speaker 4: And do you ever think when you're at the old

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Speaker 4: Because yeah, I mean I told you the story. I

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Speaker 4: I was with my son, were in spring training Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: a catcher yea, and then you became a center fielder.

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Speaker 4: I still want to you're at hard aj. Yeah you

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Speaker 3: I ended up I had a little bit of throwing issue,

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Speaker 3: But it wasn't really We had we had Bruce Bennettt

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Speaker 3: be ready to play the outfield. It saved my career, longevity,

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Speaker 3: But just to see what, you know, guys played in

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Speaker 3: Did I ever see anything like this? I don't. I

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Speaker 3: So the Braves moved here. But uh, you know it. Uh,

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Speaker 3: I'm just Nancy and I couldn't be more thankful to

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Speaker 4: That was Yeah, that was growing in Florida. We had

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Speaker 5: You didn't have the Rays.

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Speaker 3: You don't have the Marlins. Yeah, I told you. We

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Speaker 4: We drove up one fourth of July from Orlando, get

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Speaker 3: uh focused on what's more important. We got great kids

434
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Speaker 3: and grandkids, and you know, I'm just very, very lucky.

435
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Speaker 3: And I try to remember to be respectful of people.

436
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 3: I think. I think the challenge for players is you

437
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: try to protect your privacy, especially when you're playing, and

438
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 3: some people interpret that as being rude, you know, but

439
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 3: you're trying You're trying to manage that notoriety at the

440
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Speaker 3: same time. Is so I think, uh, you know, it's

441
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Speaker 3: it's sometimes it gets out of balance a little bit,

442
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 3: but I try to, you know, just remember that I'm

443
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 3: I was lucky and not any different than anybody.

444
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Speaker 2: Else from a business perspective. So so it's a two parter.

445
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 2: One can you tell us about the restaurant yeah. And

446
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Speaker 2: then two, are you part of a group that's trying

447
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Speaker 2: to get a ballpark or a ball job in Utah?

448
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, so, uh, the the restaurant's good news, bad news? Okay. Uh,

449
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 3: where we're at and we've got a lot of people

450
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Speaker 3: during the All Star week over by the village. We're

451
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Speaker 3: right over there at the village by the Village, but

452
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Speaker 3: that area is renovating. They're renovating, so they have to

453
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 3: we have to close and whether it'll be a year

454
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Speaker 3: and a half so by then, I you know, we've

455
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Speaker 3: had a great experience over there. Okay, Murph's if I

456
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Speaker 3: can put a plug in, come on by. We're gonna

457
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Speaker 3: be op until mid August. There you go. So that's

458
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: where everyone to know wotton right now. And I'm sorry

459
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 3: and I asked one on Youtah. Yeah, yeah, I'm from Portland, Oregon.

460
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: You know, I was part of their group, but I

461
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 3: live in Salt Lake about eight months out of the year,

462
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 3: I'm here about four And they have a great group

463
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: and uh, big League Utah where we're working every day.

464
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 3: Great ownership group. The Miller family that owned the Jazz

465
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Speaker 3: and they've owned the Be's Triple A team for twenty

466
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Speaker 3: five years. Salt Lake has completely changed the last twenty

467
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 3: five years. It's a great demographics, great ownership group. We're excited. Uh,

468
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 3: and we'll see when the commissioner and the players and

469
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Speaker 3: owners get together and decide to expand. Sounds like Nashville

470
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: is a good front runner, but they're gonna expand to

471
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 3: one's gonna be on the well. Yeah, gotta get you know, uh,

472
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 3: different parts of the country. So we're we're we're definitely

473
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Speaker 3: in the mix. I'm firstly very optimistic. Yeah, I think

474
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: they have a good shot.

475
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Speaker 2: Yes, Portland's trying to Portland has still got you know,

476
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Speaker 2: Salt Lake City. Sounds like they have maybe a chance.

477
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Speaker 2: Portland are the most active groups. I think Orlando started

478
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Speaker 2: a group. Oh yeah, so we Yeah, like you're on

479
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 2: the West coast, yes, and there have you been working

480
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Speaker 2: with that group? Yeah?

481
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Speaker 4: I differ is the difference in Orlando and what you

482
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Speaker 4: guys want. You guys want expansion team. Yeah, yeah, Orlando

483
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Speaker 4: doesn't want an expansion team. They want a team about

484
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Speaker 4: an hour west.

485
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Speaker 3: I've heard about that. Yeah, and I think that Yeah.

486
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Speaker 4: Denton Pirates, Yes, the Brandenton Mara Marauders.

487
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say the tarp.

488
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Speaker 4: Lakeland Flying Tigers. Yes, but I'm listen. I played in

489
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 4: Salt Lake and Triple A. I love salt Well, you

490
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 4: asked me all the time, what was your favorite city? Oh, like,

491
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 4: Salt Lake City is unbelievable.

492
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Speaker 3: It is great, and I've lived there since I retired.

493
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Speaker 3: Nancy and I had had our family here. All our

494
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: kids were born here. But we love it out there.

495
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's a great place and we're excited.

496
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: They're they're every everywhere I go. People said, what what

497
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 3: is going on? We're ready to go. So they got

498
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Speaker 3: a lot of good things in their faith.

499
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Speaker 4: Where would they.

500
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Speaker 3: Put the stadium? There's a brand new airport, you know,

501
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: it'd be right between downtown and the airport called the

502
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Speaker 3: Power District that they got there. It's ready to go.

503
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: It's actually shovel red. I mean they're ready to break ground.

504
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 5: So they wouldn't have to do a fake shovel ground break.

505
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Speaker 3: They do a real ground break.

506
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Speaker 5: They would actually ground.

507
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Speaker 3: Yes, would you have a shovel? Uh yet? Well, I yes,

508
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Speaker 3: I was at the Do I have a shovel to

509
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Speaker 3: break ground? Yeah? They break ground? Would you want to?

510
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Speaker 5: Guy?

511
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Speaker 3: They've already broken ground because actually they're gonna develop that

512
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 3: area anyway and save ten twelve acres for the ballpark. Awesome.

513
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Speaker 4: Oh that's awesome.

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535
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Speaker 2: about them is it's going to be a massive storyline.

536
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Speaker 2: Of course, we're excited to see him pitch, Yeah, but played.

537
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: For a long time. You know that Deil.

538
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 7: There's a lot of elements that went wrong and he's

539
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 7: not one of them. It's not his fault, but a

540
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 7: lot of people contributed for it even to be a

541
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Speaker 7: situation that we have to discuss. Five or six pitchers

542
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 7: opted not to be here. That seems to be the

543
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 7: new thing, and you can understand it. You can make

544
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 7: an argument with all the injuries and the way the

545
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 7: game is played and everything else. What it is very

546
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 7: difficult as a former pitcher is that to think that

547
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 7: there is not other worthy candidates is where the discussion

548
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 7: gets awkward. And it's not his fault. He is going

549
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 7: to be a dynamic great pitcher. Ever seen this, you know?

550
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 7: And I think if you're a pitcher and you're playing

551
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 7: all first half and you're worthy, you're gonna feel slighted.

552
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: You're going to.

553
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 7: Understand some components of it. But to me, I don't

554
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 7: think you can just say it's the one reason why

555
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 7: this is wrong there's a lot of reasons that contributed

556
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 7: to why it's wrong.

557
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: Would you which leads me.

558
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: To my next question one. I don't you would have

559
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 4: never skipped if you were able to pitch?

560
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: Right?

561
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 4: No, okay, I figured that, knowing you and your competitives,

562
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 4: you always wanted to be out there.

563
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

564
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: But then, second of all, because of things like this

565
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 4: and even schemes last year with only eleven starts, yeah,

566
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 4: a lot more than five? Right, should they stop using

567
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 4: All Star games? And I've had this conversation with rosendalvar

568
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 4: Ditch yesterday. Should they stop using Hall of Fames for

569
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 4: or sorry, all Star games for Hall of Fame credentials

570
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: if they're just you know, there's seventy nine All Stars

571
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: this year. That's that's a lot of that's like ten

572
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 4: percent over ten percent of the league. Yeah, there's a

573
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: lot of All Stars. So oh, you get an All

574
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 4: Star Game, and you get an All Game because all

575
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 4: these players are opting out.

576
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: So is it is it?

577
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Speaker 4: I don't want to say it's cheapened it, but has

578
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 4: it lessened the aura of I'm in Major League All Star?

579
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 7: You can make that argument and be a strong argument.

580
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: I agree.

581
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 7: I went to eight I went to seven, I was

582
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 7: selected to eight, I got hurt, and it went on

583
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 7: the IL. I think the game and the idea of

584
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 7: the game has changed from the expectation of the player.

585
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 7: A lot of things have changed that take it away

586
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Speaker 7: from where it is an honor. It should be an honor.

587
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 7: It should be based on your resume. And now you

588
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 7: can get selected and not even go. And I think, look,

589
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 7: I'm going to be the old guy on the law.

590
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 7: And if I keep saying that, you know, I think

591
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Speaker 7: the All Star Game, and you've heard me say this,

592
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 7: I am one confident all the discussions would go away

593
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 7: if we had a World versus USA All Star Game.

594
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 7: I've said it for years. Hockey just went through it.

595
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 7: It exploded. I don't watch a lot of hockey. I

596
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 7: didn't miss one second of that All Star I didn't.

597
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 7: I thought it was compelling. I thought it was incredible.

598
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 7: Guys were playing hurt, Guys missed the second half of

599
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 7: their season because of that. With that comes that expectation

600
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Speaker 7: that you are showcasing the greatest athletes on our planet,

601
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 7: and we would have a roster that you could talk

602
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 7: about on both sides, that you could go I don't

603
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 7: know who's gonna win now? Is the World Baseball Classic

604
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 7: the reason we're not going to that? Yes, it could,

605
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 7: but the World Baseball Classic has its own unique other

606
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Speaker 7: countries that other players aren't in the current system that

607
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Speaker 7: we have. And I'm just saying, if you have me,

608
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Speaker 7: give me a chance to put a USA jersey on,

609
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 7: you gotta I gotta have a broken arm to not

610
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Speaker 7: want to put a jersey.

611
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 4: That's Four Nations Cup that Remember the Kachucks versus was

612
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 4: it Russia or Canada? They dropped the gloves and fought

613
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 4: right absolutely, and everyone the next game, everyone the whole

614
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: everyone was watching think that, but saying that we still

615
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 4: have the best All Star Game of any sport.

616
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Speaker 7: Yes, it's not even We're not We're not. I'm not

617
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 7: saying this is not a great game. I'm saying that

618
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 7: to your point on the amount of players and the

619
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 7: amount of change to get ready for this game, I

620
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 7: don't even look at two days leading up because so

621
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 7: many things changed. You could be working on it, you know.

622
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 7: So there's a lot of there's a lot of discussion

623
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 7: every All Star game about players picked or not picked.

624
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 7: It's never gonna change. But I'm just I just think

625
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 7: that USA versus World eventually is gonna happen.

626
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Speaker 5: But then you couldn't. You have to still pick the

627
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 5: All Stars. So it couldn't just be the best American

628
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 5: players versus the best World players, because then it would

629
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Speaker 5: just like guys wouldn't make a star?

630
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Speaker 2: Why not?

631
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Speaker 3: Why not?

632
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Speaker 5: Because then you're then they're gonna be like, well, should

633
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 5: Trout be in based on this year? Trout shouldn't be.

634
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Speaker 7: I think you're still picking the All Stars, no doubt.

635
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: I think there's a bigger.

636
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Speaker 5: Wilson is starting shortstop for the American team. I think

637
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 5: that's where I think it would you would lose kind

638
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 5: of the All Star like aspect of wow, he was

639
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 5: a three time All Star, he was a two time

640
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 5: All Star. That kind of thing.

641
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Speaker 7: I think for a change of pace, it's a great

642
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 7: change of pace. I'm not saying it stays that way.

643
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 7: I just think it's a change of pace. Look, they

644
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 7: tried doing home field advantage to it. I mean, there's

645
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 7: things you can do, and everybody's trying to figure out

646
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 7: in other sports how to do it. But the choices

647
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 7: that other sports have had to make, they just canceled

648
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 7: theirs because it wasn't working. And so I'm just thinking

649
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 7: for a change of pace, a one off. I think

650
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 7: it would be a phenomenal showcase from an international flavor

651
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 7: that we have in our sport to what the USA

652
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 7: could put together.

653
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: Has it been discussed, because I don't know. Are you

654
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: still doing the rules committee?

655
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 5: No?

656
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: Okay, but has it been discussed? You know people you

657
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: could throw it out there.

658
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: Oh, I get it.

659
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 7: I'm not afraid to throw anything out until some he says,

660
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 7: stop throwing it out there. But I think there is

661
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 7: definitely interest that won't The WBC is still going to

662
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 7: take precedent, and I get it. The difference is you've

663
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 7: got guys in their prime conditioning, ready to go now

664
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 7: versus what that tournament. To your point, you're not going

665
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 7: to get certain people in that tournament. I mean, there's

666
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 7: a bigger issue here that we don't deal with as

667
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 7: an entity and as an organization, and that's injuries. Until

668
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 7: we start dealing with that, until we start looking at

669
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 7: baseball and seeing why do we keep doing the same

670
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 7: thing over and over again and not even think about

671
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 7: prevention of injuries as being a competitive advantage. That has

672
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 7: to be at the forefront, that has to be something

673
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 7: that organizations, major League Baseball, we can't keep turning our

674
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 7: head going it is what it is.

675
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 5: Nobody gets in trouble, Somebody gets hurt. People get in

676
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 5: trouble when they're era, or their velocity dips or any

677
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 5: of the stuff.

678
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: People get hurt.

679
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 5: Shucks.

680
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: Can you incentivize teams.

681
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: On that front?

682
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 7: Absolutely, it's going to be coming that that rule change

683
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 7: is coming. But what I'm shocked at is why, in

684
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 7: all of our analytical world that we live in today,

685
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 7: with all the competitive advantage that you want, and let's

686
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 7: just say it's only two point five between the last

687
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 7: place team and the greatest team of analytics, it's not

688
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 7: that big a gap anymore. Why isn't somebody trying to

689
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 7: zig when everyone else's zagging and saying, we're going to

690
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 7: start having a competitive advantage by keeping our guys healthy

691
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 7: no matter what happens, and over time, I would argue,

692
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 7: you're going to gain a bigger advantage than if you

693
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 7: just say, hey, this team had a bunch of injuries,

694
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 7: we got lucky one year. You're not escaping it, like

695
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 7: this is not something you're escaping. And I'm shocked that

696
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 7: ten years this has been going on that nobody in

697
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 7: an organization says we are going to to reinvestigate, reinvest

698
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 7: in different commodities in different ways. To see these three

699
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 7: pitchers that I have as studs, I want them healthy

700
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 7: next year or I want them healthy in the next

701
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 7: two years. If you're put in charge of that, what's

702
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 7: the first thing that you implement. The first thing I'm

703
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 7: implementing is getting away from all the information that's driving

704
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 7: the training to just max effort. I'm getting away from it.

705
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 7: I'm not going to be obsessed by it. If you

706
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 7: have the ability to do it, use it wisely. Don't

707
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 7: use it every single time you have to go into

708
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 7: the minor leagues and go guys, I don't want you

709
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 7: empty in the tank now every single pitch. I don't

710
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 7: want you to throw one hundred miles an hour. But

711
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 7: guess what in the sixth inning, when you want it,

712
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 7: do it. That's the difference. And when you're addicted to something,

713
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 7: you're going to keep wanting that addiction. If you're addicted

714
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 7: to velocity, you want it. You can't stand looking at

715
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 7: a guy that can pitch it doesn't fit the model.

716
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 7: It's like that guy's going to give up eight one day.

717
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 7: So what so what he's going to pick thirty five times?

718
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 7: He might have a three point nine era, so what

719
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 7: you don't want five of them, but you got to

720
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 7: have some sprinkled in that give you the stability to go.

721
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 7: That guy's not getting hurt unless it's freakish. But why

722
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 7: are we having a conversation going?

723
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: Man?

724
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 7: These guys are there, by the way, they're the greatest

725
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 7: arms I've ever seen. And but what is the narrative?

726
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 7: When's he getting his When's Tommy John coming for this guy?

727
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 7: No one has escaped it. That's what blows my mind.

728
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 7: Like everyone that wanted to beat me up and cut

729
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 7: my legs out ten years ago, they're the ones not

730
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 7: saying a word right now. They're the ones saying, oh,

731
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 7: I can't argue with them because he's been right. And

732
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 7: but yet they're they can't do anything about it because

733
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 7: they don't like getting away from what that model spits out.

734
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 7: And when you throw a baseball and you and you

735
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 7: turn your head and look at a computer, there's something

736
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 7: inherently wrong with that because that's driving the reward system,

737
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 7: that's driving what a player thinks, and it takes away

738
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 7: the athleticism and the ability for him to be great

739
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 7: over a long period of time.

740
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 4: Here's the problem with that, and I agree with everything

741
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 4: you just said. One, it starts in the youth. Is

742
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 4: even the youth. Now, my high school, my Sun High

743
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 4: school has all the all the information, every picture. Oh

744
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: how hard was that one? What's the vert, what's the horizontal?

745
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 4: It's all there for every and every tournament they play

746
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 4: in has all the information. So you got to get

747
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 4: rid of it there, which is or you use it differently,

748
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: which I think people need to be educated to use

749
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: it smartly.

750
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 5: Right.

751
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 4: And then the minor leagues are also a problem. Yep,

752
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: the minor leagues. The minor leagues are set up. They

753
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: get every Monday off, they play six game series. Pitchers

754
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 4: from high school college minor leagues pitch once a week,

755
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: starting pictures. Then we call them up here and say, hey,

756
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: by the way, you're pitching every fifth day.

757
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 7: They've never done in their life. It's it's a bad

758
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 7: reward system. I've heard this argument until I'm bluing the

759
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 7: face that it's a youth problem.

760
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: It is not.

761
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 7: It's a Major League Baseball problem. They're creating the youth problem.

762
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 7: It's the reward The only way you get signed is

763
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 7: you've got to have these metrics. And if that's the

764
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,479
Speaker 7: reward system. I don't blame a kid, I don't blame

765
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 7: a high school. I don't blame an academy just getting

766
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 7: the most they can out of an eight year old.

767
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 7: The problem is if we don't change our reward system,

768
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 7: none of this is going to change. So when you

769
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 7: lose pitchers, pitchers, guys who know how to pitch that

770
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 7: don't even get looked at, you're going to have this

771
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 7: conversation for a lot longer. The reason we're sustaining it

772
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 7: at this level there are so many guys who know

773
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 7: how to throw a pitch hard, that don't know how

774
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 7: to throw it anywhere close to the strike zone. They're

775
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 7: going to be giving those chances over the guy that

776
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 7: mark my words, when I'll give it three years, when

777
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 7: the generational three year pitchers, the great guys that we know,

778
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 7: are going to call it career here in the next

779
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 7: three years, you're never going to see him again. The Berlanders,

780
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 7: the Kershaws, Adam Wainwright just retired. You're never going to

781
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 7: see Charlie Morton, You're never gonna see Zach Wheeler. Like

782
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 7: that to me, should be the narrative that organizations are going. Man,

783
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 7: we got to find a way to reverse this narrative

784
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 7: because that commodity is getting shorter and shorter and shorter,

785
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 7: and we're gonna have to replace it more and more

786
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 7: and more.

787
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: My only thing is from an incentive or a punishment perspective.

788
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: How can you do it with injuries? Isn't it easier

789
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 2: to do it with starters giving length?

790
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 7: See, it's it's more to do with I'm not even

791
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 7: I'm fine with five innings.

792
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: How about that?

793
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 7: You never hear me say that I'm shocked, but those

794
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 7: five innings. Let's just say that guys could never pitch

795
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 7: over five innings ever. Again, they still can't stay healthy.

796
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 7: It's not an inning problem.

797
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: We've cut innings and pitches and everything way down, and

798
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 4: guys still get hurt.

799
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 7: This is a trainable. This is not impossible to do.

800
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 7: What's impossible to do is train for max velocity and

801
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 7: max spin longevity. It's just impossible. We think we're gonna

802
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 7: maybe this is fair or not. Nolan Ryan and our

803
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 7: generation was a freak. They're supposed to be freaks. They're

804
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 7: not supposed to be twenty of them. There's not supposed

805
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 7: to be genetically thirty Nolan Ryans. Would you argue that

806
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 7: there's at least thirty potential Nolan Ryans are more in

807
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 7: the game today that have been manufactured that are not

808
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 7: necessarily freaks. And I think that in and of itself

809
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 7: when I look at the whole history of the game,

810
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 7: and yes, regression of innings, regression from nineteen hundred to

811
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 7: where we're at. At some point we got to level

812
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 7: off and move towards the act of what you're supposed

813
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 7: to be doing as a starting pitcher. That's all I'm saying.

814
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 7: So that if we can train guys to stay healthier,

815
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 7: this would be great, even if it was only five innings.

816
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: That Brave since they're hosting this whole thing and it's awesome. Obviously,

817
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: the battery is the gem of the sport. Really for

818
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: owners who want to create something like this, they're missing

819
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: their entire putation. Yeah, so what are you seeing that's

820
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: wrong with them? You're obviously they're not hitting well either.

821
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 7: The thing about the Braves, you couldn't ask for a

822
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 7: worse greatest year ever in twenty twenty three. Offensively, they

823
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 7: set every record. They set the bar so high they

824
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 7: signed six players, that everybody was going to keep going

825
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 7: like this in the trajectory. It doesn't work that way.

826
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 7: You guys know that it doesn't. So the expectation offensively

827
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 7: was going to carry this ball club with timely pitching

828
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 7: and good starting pitching. Well, that offense has not even

829
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 7: come close to what twenty twenty three is. So that

830
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 7: inconsistency and their inability to cover the starting rotation now,

831
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 7: which was awesome, by the way, really good. That with

832
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 7: the combination that inconsistency, that's why you lose close games.

833
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 7: You know, everyone wants to figure out how does a

834
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 7: team one year win a bunch of one run games

835
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 7: and then next year doesn't, Like how does that work? Well,

836
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 7: if you've got some flaws in your club, you're not

837
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 7: gonna win a ton of one run games. That's how

838
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 7: it works. And is it a model to live by. No,

839
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 7: But you see the teams that win the one run

840
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 7: games and the ones that don't, and it's pretty obvious

841
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 7: you got to have a little bit better consistency in

842
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 7: certain areas that show up as a weakness.

843
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: Last one in that division. You like the metal the

844
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: Phillies better.

845
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 7: I said from the whole part of the season. This

846
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 7: is gonna be up and down. They're gonna switch spots

847
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 7: at least twenty different times. I don't think any one

848
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 7: of those teams run away from it. This has been

849
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 7: the streak. I feel like I'm repeating myself because the

850
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 7: last three years I said the same thing. This is

851
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 7: one of the streakiest seasons I've ever seen where I

852
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 7: can't believe, like the Dodgers lose seven in a row,

853
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 7: the Red Sox at won ten in a row, the

854
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 7: Minnesota Twins won whatever ten or their.

855
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: Leaders won seven in a row just now too, and

856
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: they're back in it.

857
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 7: To me, this is the streakiest. I don't know if

858
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 7: it's the imbalance of some teams in the schedule and

859
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 7: when they're playing them, the injuries take a place. I

860
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,479
Speaker 7: would have a hard time picking a winner right now

861
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 7: out of the East, but it's definitely coming from one

862
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 7: of those two teams, that's safe to say. And I

863
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 7: think from the central balance there, the West shouldn't. I mean,

864
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 7: until recently, the West was looking like we were all

865
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 7: thought that the Dodgers were win by double digits. So

866
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 7: there's flaws on every team because of injuries and because

867
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 7: of lack of pitching. But then you've got some surprises

868
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 7: like the Detroit Tigers, where you go, come on now,

869
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 7: no one thought there'd be a double digit lead at

870
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 7: the All Star break. Credit them what they did last

871
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 7: year and what they're doing now. They got a little,

872
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 7: you know, beat up over this. I always look at

873
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 7: the week before spring, the All Star Game and the

874
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 7: week after. Watch the teams that either lose or gain

875
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 7: the most games in those two weeks, and you'll see

876
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 7: that movement drastically changed. Because it's a it's a it's

877
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 7: a tough week for teams. Players are tired, Some are

878
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 7: going to All Star games are like man, all Star

879
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 7: breaks almost here. You can't let off the gas, you know,

880
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 7: And some teams really pick up a lot of games

881
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 7: in those two ten in that ten day spend.

882
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Tigers got swept by the Marinders heading into

883
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: the break just now right. Yeah they're a good team,

884
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: but still they didn't look like Them's.

885
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 7: Not the way I'm impressed with the jim Nasium that

886
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 7: you guys are using while you're doing this show all

887
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 7: the time.

888
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: All the time.

889
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 5: We just it's like a two hour show and then

890
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 5: we just go lift. It's awesome, that's why we're not

891
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 5: good putters and golf.

892
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: No, yeah, we know him. It's worked with me quite

893
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: a bit.

894
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 5: I would I would be, I would be remiss. We

895
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 5: just hung out with Andrew Jones. He was here yesterday.

896
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 5: You know, different guys have run through here in Atlanta.

897
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 5: Where do you rank yourself on the echelon of wouldn't

898
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 5: have to buy a beer if all the Braves guys

899
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 5: came into the same bar.

900
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 7: Oh, if they all came in the same bar, well,

901
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 7: I don't drink, so that they're not going to buy

902
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 7: me too many drinks. Pay for your I would say,

903
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 7: as much as this pains me, and he's a neighbor,

904
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 7: and I play golf with him, and I really don't

905
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 7: like making him feel even bigger than he is. Chipper

906
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 7: Jones probably is one. He's He's yeah, okay, then are

907
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 7: you second? I don't know if I'm second. I like

908
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 7: to think I'm in the top three or four of

909
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 7: the guys that live here. But if you're talking about

910
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 7: everybody coming back that don't live here, then that changes.

911
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 3: Like nineties braves you're talking about.

912
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 5: I'm talking about nineties braves. But I also have to

913
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 5: throw in Frank cor Yeah, I know you're gonna say.

914
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 5: Frank Corn I was like, SEEZ, don't say that.

915
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: The only person I wanted you to say.

916
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 7: Here's how it works now and we all get there.

917
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 7: If I go to a convenience store or gas station

918
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 7: and there's a young person working behind the counter and

919
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,479
Speaker 7: there's an older gentleman behind me freaking out, the young

920
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 7: person goes, why is the older gentleman freaking out? Should

921
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 7: I know who you are? I said, how old are you?

922
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 7: Twenty five? No, you don't know who I get it's

923
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 7: twenty nine and up. And that's even risking it. So

924
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 7: it's generationally the older people they they still they still

925
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 7: kind of know the bald head and all that. But

926
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 7: the younger ones are like, eh, I don't know, okays

927
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 7: where you go in? And it completely depends on where

928
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 7: I go.

929
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: Right, If they're watching Fox, that that doesn't hurt. But

930
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, Well.

931
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 7: It's only on you know, you're on TV for less

932
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 7: than a minute. Flash Thankfully for me, it's only a minute.

933
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 4: But hey, I say this, And I had this conversation

934
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 4: with the Fox people yesterday. The producers love for the

935
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 4: Live for the Open right, or us it's like this

936
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 4: is the worst minute our day, right because we put

937
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 4: all this time in and Nope. If you ask all

938
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 4: these people here and you go, do you know what

939
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 4: the open is in a game?

940
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 3: They have no idea.

941
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: No in the is the producer's lifeline. Oh we gotta

942
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 4: nail the open.

943
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: And I'm like, nobody, nobody's.

944
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 4: Turning on or off the game because of what you

945
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 4: say in the open exactly. They think that everyone know

946
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 4: you have to talk about the stars, which is great,

947
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 4: but that's it opens over Jagget comes off ties and done.

948
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 3: That's because you can script that.

949
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: I remember when I just to do games with Folty

950
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: and like you would talk more in the production meeting

951
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: or just as much about the aus you would about

952
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: the game itself, which is the three hours after that,

953
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: and I started to change my tone.

954
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, let's just chat for a few minutes.

955
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 7: That's really what it's about. Even if you make a mistake,

956
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 7: everyone wants to be perfect. I'm like, hey, it's you know,

957
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 7: live TV.

958
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 3: It happens.

959
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

960
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 7: But the but where the open becomes, to your point,

961
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 7: where the producers really love it is when whatever you

962
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 7: speak in the open happens immediately in the game, and

963
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 7: then you can earlier we talked about and uh, but

964
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 7: you're right, like it's a flash, it goes by and

965
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 7: you just hope you don't fumble too many things, give you.

966
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: A strategy, and something happens in the game that that's

967
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 2: the producer's year, that is their year, so you have

968
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: to play into that.

969
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: But it's bolt you. Good to see thanks for stocking.

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00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 3: Good set up, guys. You can see you guys in

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Speaker 3: August too.