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Speaker 1: If you've ever eaten at MacDonald's, Burger King or five Guys,

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Speaker 1: chances are you've had one of her buns. They call

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Speaker 1: it the bun Lady, But the story of how a

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Speaker 1: single mother rose to the top of the Forbes list

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Speaker 1: grit and confidence. You have to hear. Cordia Harrington is

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Speaker 1: my guest on this edition of A Royal Grande. Come on,

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Speaker 1: I'm Raymond Arroyo. Welcome to a Royal Grande. Go subscribe

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Speaker 1: to the show. Now turn the notifications on so you

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Speaker 1: know what's coming. And if you'd like to support our show,

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Speaker 1: please visit Raymondarroyo dot com. There's a donatepar there. Before

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Speaker 1: we get to the Bun Lady and her incredible business

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Speaker 1: and life lessons, let's go to the culture counter. This

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Speaker 1: AI thing is getting way out of control. Sitting atop

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Speaker 1: the Billboard's Country Digital Song chart is someone who doesn't exist,

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Speaker 1: breaking rust. The artist is entirely AI generated.

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Speaker 2: He may look like a.

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Speaker 1: Cowboy, but he's just as fake as the song generated

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Speaker 1: by the machine. Walk My Walk. The song in question

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Speaker 1: features a silly lyric where the cowboy goes on about

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Speaker 1: his worn out hat and a six string strap. It's

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Speaker 1: just the worst country kitch. It sounds like every bro

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Speaker 1: cover band since the early two thousands. If Chris Stapleton

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Speaker 1: was run through a database with a side of Marcus King,

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Speaker 1: it would sound vaguely like this. It also has that

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Speaker 1: annoying beat that's destroyed the rhythm of classic country. When

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Speaker 1: I did a little digging, I realized Walk My Walk

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Speaker 1: topped the digital download Country chart with only three thousand sales.

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Speaker 1: It's not number one on the Hot Country charts or

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Speaker 1: the Billboard streaming charts, which is all that matters, but

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Speaker 1: it does portend a scary future for artists. Tennessee recently

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Speaker 1: became the first state to outlaw the use of deep

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Speaker 1: fake technology to replicate artists. But the question is how

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Speaker 1: many artists' voices and lyrics and compositions were fed into

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Speaker 1: the AI to produce this Walk My Walk song. It's

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Speaker 1: a sterile product, but one that relies on flesh and

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Speaker 1: blood artists to whip up breaking rust, though it sounds

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Speaker 1: to me like the rust is already broken. Now. AI

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Speaker 1: isn't only coming for your playlist, it's trying to control

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Speaker 1: your relationships. A new dating app known ask date seekers

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Speaker 1: to share all kinds of personal information before pairing you

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Speaker 1: what it knows about you to essentially play matchmaker. Users

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Speaker 1: are notified when the match faker finds them a potential date.

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Speaker 1: For twenty five bucks, they'll send you the contact information

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Speaker 1: for your perspective partner. Tinder is now unveiling its own

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Speaker 1: It demands access to the user's camera role. According to

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Speaker 1: The New York Times, based on what it finds there,

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Speaker 1: it will match you with a possible partner. I wonder

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Speaker 1: who it matches to. Those people who just take pictures

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Speaker 1: They might end up with digital anime partners and just

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Speaker 1: bring this thing full circle. Isn't it easier to just

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Speaker 1: or coffee? Why forfeit your personal data to a corporation

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Speaker 1: real life, and they won't even ask to see those

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Speaker 1: This is probably the most disturbing of all the AI stories,

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Speaker 3: AI is going to touch everybody's lives in the next

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Speaker 3: few years, and for some it will take their jobs

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Speaker 3: courth enter workers, customer service agents, maybe even TV presenters

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Speaker 3: like me, because I'm not real in a British TV first,

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Speaker 3: I'm actually an AI presenter.

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Speaker 1: You can at my job, lady. I hope every network

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Speaker 1: They call Cordia Harrington the bun Lady. She founded the

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Speaker 1: bakery companies that bakes products for McDonald's Sarah Lee Pepperidge Farms.

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Speaker 1: you said something I read recently where you claim a

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Speaker 4: Well, honestly, if you think about it, that's the time

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Speaker 1: Wow, is that what's behind that thought? You've done that

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Speaker 5: Life in fact, but Raymond, I didn't know I was

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Speaker 4: It was by accident. All three businesses that I've started.

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Speaker 4: If you look at the financials for the US, we've

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Speaker 4: had nineteen recessions and nineteen recoveries and.

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Speaker 1: You keep a chart in your office.

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Speaker 1: That's why.

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Speaker 4: And I looked at that chart and lo and behold

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Speaker 5: I didn't know it at the time.

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Speaker 4: I think depending upon what the segment is for me,

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Speaker 5: People can't afford to go to fine dining.

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Speaker 4: If you're in a recession, you know they're going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. Okay, tell me what do you say?

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Speaker 1: And we hear this a lot people feel, I think,

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Speaker 4: I believe that if we have that thought process, I

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Speaker 4: because that little voice inside of us is a true north.

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Speaker 4: And for example, I knew I needed to become a

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Speaker 1: And I want to go back. I want to take

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Speaker 1: you back to nineteen eighty one. You're in your twenties

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Speaker 1: and you start a real estate business, and this is

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Speaker 5: Desks, all six hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: Wow, why real estate? Why did you start there?

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Speaker 4: Because I got frustrated. I had a real estate license

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Speaker 5: Leased my chairs and desks.

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Speaker 4: My chairs were a dollar fifty a month and my

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Speaker 1: But in nineteen eighty six, you have your children, your

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Speaker 4: That was the driving force for all of my businesses

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Speaker 5: I learned that you could own a McDonald's.

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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't grow up, you know, I were my

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Speaker 4: And I saw their lifestyle Raymond. They were with their

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Speaker 4: Yes, about twenty two hundred hours where I worked for free,

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Speaker 4: I would think, you know what am I doing. I'm

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Speaker 1: Oh but it's not as easy as Okay, I'm going

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Speaker 5: You had just fly.

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Speaker 4: You go through training, twenty two hours of training, which

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Speaker 1: A great thing. Yeah, you've carried in for your other businesses.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely best training any young person can get.

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Speaker 1: Where you get a McDonald Wow. So you get the training.

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Speaker 1: You have a little money from your real estate business.

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Speaker 1: What happens at this point.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was given the chance to buy the Effingham,

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Speaker 4: But I drove. I had a fruit truck that had

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Speaker 2: Never give up.

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Speaker 4: And the they are so particular thirty eight characteristics for

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Speaker 4: It was January of ninety six, and truly that was

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Speaker 5: When I finally got the nod, I cannot tell you

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Speaker 4: And they needed the bakery to be built somewhere between

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Speaker 1: What was the lesson for you? What's the lesson for others?

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Speaker 1: Watching and listening.

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Speaker 4: I believe that through prayer we get nods of things

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Speaker 4: Without going into a lot of detail, if you look

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Speaker 5: I sold them after the bakery was felt.

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Speaker 1: Wow, and then you you really just scale this up

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Speaker 5: You are exactly right, You were exactly.

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Speaker 2: Right, broke the mold.

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Speaker 5: Well, we didn't have a choice, like I told you earlier.

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Speaker 4: Survival is a great motivator, and we had to figure

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Speaker 5: Well, when I sold my restaurants, every.

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Speaker 4: money every month to pay payroll. Finally, Pepperidge Farm, God

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Speaker 4: My husband came up with a beautiful price protocol which

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Speaker 1: I mean it's really expanded. That was one bakery and

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Speaker 4: Well, you have to wear every hat because the great

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Speaker 2: You consider this a ministry.

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Speaker 4: Well, we have three create opportunities, make a difference and

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Speaker 5: If we help them succeed, whether.

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Speaker 1: We're benefiting one and it remains a family business.

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Speaker 5: It is we have. We're grateful.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, we've got a lot of family involved.

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Speaker 4: But our we're capital from Chicago got involved with us

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: And seriously plan it? I didn't plan it. It was

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Speaker 4: See it next to you, Greg Purcell. Well, we hit

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, what do you mean.

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Speaker 4: Grow with your money? He flew down the next week.

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Speaker 5: It was totally divine intervention.

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Speaker 4: And they are the finest people and have brought courage

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Speaker 5: Wow, and I've met the.

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Speaker 4: Most You know, when you have that kind of resources,

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Speaker 4: We're going to hire him and pay him what he's worth. Well,

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Speaker 1: Spending your You're to death.

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Speaker 5: You're going to make your payments. You know it's a

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Speaker 1: Wow, but it's really a lot great to scale and

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Speaker 5: Beyond my wellness. I mean yeah, I think we're rated

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Speaker 1: Who do you service, Cordya, Who tell me the brands

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Speaker 4: I mean, well, we're a comand and what that means

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Speaker 4: is we don't have a brand. So Crown Bakeries does

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Speaker 4: and Burger King and Trader Joe's and Whole food Stand,

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Speaker 4: including Pepperidge Farm, Sarah Lee and those.

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Speaker 1: And these are all separate models, if you will, of pastmers.

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Speaker 1: They're not I mean, you don't use one bun for

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, all of the all of

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Speaker 5: So if you go and.

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Speaker 4: Have breakfast at Burger King and you have that croissant,

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Speaker 5: We've made it.

446
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: Really, that's incredible, so fun. Tell me about your leadership style.

447
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: It's hard when you're working with family. Let's just say it.

448
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 1: It can be hard. Yeah, how do you negotiate that?

449
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: Because when you have a disagreement, well, I've.

450
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 4: Made every possible mistake. I will start with that. And

451
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 4: we've come up with the term MAC MAC that is

452
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 4: a mature adult conversation. So when we have an issue

453
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 4: within the family, we call each other within twenty four

454
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 4: hours and ago we need to have a MAC. And

455
00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 4: then the tone is set that you can speak your truth,

456
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 4: but you've laid.

457
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 5: It out in a way that it's not as.

458
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 4: Personal, you know, because we've hurt feelings a lot at

459
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 4: different times and you don't mean to, but.

460
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: So it puts it in a separate It's like say

461
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: by and taking it out of the personal family at.

462
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 5: Emotional correct correct?

463
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: What would you tell those who I mean, I was

464
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: struck by the fact that you founded your first bakery

465
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: at forty three years old, which is hardly old.

466
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 5: Hey, but it sounds really young right now, me.

467
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 2: Too, exactly to me too.

468
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 1: So but the question is what would you say to

469
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: people who say, you know, I'm fifty ghost.

470
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 4: There is nothing that every memory, every dream, every mistake,

471
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 4: it's all within me. And I'm so grateful for those memories.

472
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 4: And it wouldn't have happened if I wouldn't have given

473
00:25:59,480 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 4: it a shot.

474
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: What was the hardest moment in this journey for you?

475
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: What was the gut check most difficult? I can't do

476
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: this moment.

477
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 4: Hurting a family member was gut riching, and I did

478
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 4: that and I regret it.

479
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 5: That was one thing.

480
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 4: The crisis of this is within the bakery. For example,

481
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 4: we were going to be a national rollout for a

482
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 4: new bun and I built a line in Nashville put

483
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 4: in a three and a half million.

484
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 5: Dollars spiral freezer.

485
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 4: On the week of rollout when McDonald's was here watching

486
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 4: us roll out, I got to call at five in

487
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 4: the morning and Hey, I just Dave called me and said, I.

488
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 5: Just want you to know nobody's dead. And I'm like what.

489
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 5: The spiral freezer had collapsed.

490
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 4: And so not only was it great nobody's hurt, but

491
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 4: we had eleven distributions center around the United States that

492
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 4: we're counting on us, and I've got planes in the

493
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 4: air bringing parts. I'm calling everybody I know. You know

494
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 4: it's your reputation, it's not. I mean we we've always

495
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 4: one hundred percent delivered every order that we've had until

496
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 4: that point, and so it was it was horrible.

497
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got through it. It rebuilds it.

498
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 5: So just have to plow through it.

499
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 4: That's a lot easier than hurting somebody's feelings, Yeah, because.

500
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: You just got to fix it. Those harder things to rebuild. Yeah,

501
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: over time. What's the key to your success? If you

502
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: have to say this is it? This is what made

503
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: the bun Lady the bun Lady.

504
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 5: And I love that Moniker by the way, thank you.

505
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 5: I think.

506
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 4: Passion and enthusiasm, honest enthusiasm for what I'm doing.

507
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 5: I absolutely love what I'm doing.

508
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 4: I love creating opportunities for other people. I love connecting people.

509
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 4: I love helping you reach your dreams. So I think

510
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 4: enthusiasm and passion.

511
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: Do you still have a passion for making buns, for

512
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: making pastries, for making these big goods that still burns

513
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: in you all this time later?

514
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: It really does, not because of the product, but because

515
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 4: of what it does to the person that's able to

516
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 4: overcome and make it happen.

517
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: Is that the key to focus on the people you're serving,

518
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: totally beyond the thing, whatever it is.

519
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: Yep, what do you tell women? Women have a tough time.

520
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: Because they're up against so many societal obstacles, pressures. I mean,

521
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: and though some walls have come down.

522
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: I think I think that whether it's a woman or

523
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 4: a man, you've got to tell them to live their dream.

524
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 4: And I'm often asked, how do you balance work and

525
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 4: you know, keeping your head. Well, I have a secret

526
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 4: and it's called on my calendar. I have his historic

527
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 4: preservation and it's once a week for two hours, I

528
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: get a massage and this.

529
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 5: This historic preservation facial.

530
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: You know.

531
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: I thought, Oh, she's rebuilding the house.

532
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: She's fixing the historic out front, I guess.

533
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: And so it's that time to pause and just get

534
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 4: your downtime, take care of yourself so that you can

535
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 4: be your best self with your family and with your associates.

536
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: I'm not always my best self and it's ugly and

537
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 4: I like to try to preserve.

538
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we all end up there, I mean, you know,

539
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: and that balance is helps me. And when you have obligations,

540
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: particularly use a single mother. I mean, this is a

541
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: you took major risks.

542
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 5: You didn't feel like that at the time. It just

543
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 5: felt like what I had to do.

544
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 4: You know, if I do this, then I'll have more

545
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 4: time with them, and.

546
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 5: So it's worth it. It was no brainer.

547
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: Amazing. No, I'm a marvel at that journey, just the

548
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: way it transpired. But risk takers. There are some people

549
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: who are just great risk takers. You're one of those people.

550
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: That's hard.

551
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: I mean, not everybody can do that, and it may

552
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: be frame of mind. You know, some people do not

553
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: a spite, I will beat the other guy. You didn't

554
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: do that, that wasn't your motivator, No, which I love.

555
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: There's some questions I ask everybody when we do this. Okay,

556
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: what's that there? This is my Royal Grande questionnaire. Do

557
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: not think deeply, just answer, who's the person you most respect?

558
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 4: My husband Tom, He's the most honest, straightforward, funny, genuine

559
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 4: person on the planet.

560
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: Who's the person you most despise?

561
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 5: Wow, that's hard. Yeah, I know, Well I can't. I

562
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 5: really I don't think. I don't think like that.

563
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: You don't hate people, you don't just frise anybody.

564
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 5: I can't. I'm blank.

565
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well that's only because I'm sitting in the room.

566
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: Otherwise you would have said me, I know. But what's

567
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: your best feature?

568
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 5: My hair, it is a great feature.

569
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: What's your worst feature? Oh?

570
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 5: My body?

571
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: Do you have a Do you have a best or

572
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: worst feature in business?

573
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 5: Yes?

574
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 4: My best feature in business is being an encourager and

575
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 4: you know, finding good things in the situation. My worst

576
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,959
Speaker 4: feature is managing because I am a yes you know,

577
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 4: I'm always seeing the way we can say yes.

578
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 5: And when you're managing people, I.

579
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: Think you need to be able to say no, that's

580
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 4: not what we're going to do right now, we are

581
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 4: going to do this. So I would say managing people,

582
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: managing the day to day people operation.

583
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: I read somewhere where you like to take everybody's opinion,

584
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: but they all know at the end of the day,

585
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna be me. Yeah, I'm going to make the decision.

586
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: Does And that's a great I mean, well I do.

587
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 5: I know.

588
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 4: I've got blind sides and sites, and it's very helpful

589
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 4: when I can see other people's.

590
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 5: Point of view because maybe it's something I haven't thought about.

591
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: What is your favorite book and the last great book

592
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: you read?

593
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 5: I read about five books a week.

594
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: What are you reading now.

595
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 5: I just started a book this morning. It's the new

596
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 5: Brown book.

597
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: I don't remember the name of it, Easy Ready.

598
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 5: And I love reading my Bible. I a lot of

599
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 5: self help books.

600
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: You know.

601
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 5: I'm a passionate reader.

602
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: You're a reader.

603
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 5: I love to read. Yeah, I escape when I read.

604
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: I know the feeling. What do you fear?

605
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 4: I always feared I'd go broke right before my eyes.

606
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 5: I thought that was going to happen several times.

607
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've I've seen your stories where you start

608
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: a business and suddenly the entire pool drives.

609
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 4: Over exactly, So I think that that's the first thing

610
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 4: that came to my mind.

611
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 5: Don't feel that so much today.

612
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: But what's the greatest virtue in your mind?

613
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 5: Integrity?

614
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 1: Do you see enough of it in the business world.

615
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: I think those that I surround myself with have very

616
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: high integrity.

617
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 5: When somebody doesn't.

618
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: You can't do business.

619
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 5: We go along.

620
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: What do you regret? Do you have a deep regret?

621
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: I do I regret parting ways with my brother on

622
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 4: a business venture?

623
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: Hm?

624
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: Hmmm.

625
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: Have you been able to reconcile totally? Oh?

626
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: Good, totally.

627
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: Well, then that's not that's not a deep, deep regret.

628
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: I mean it's it was painful.

629
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: Well, it's always painful, but you did you did the

630
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: important thing, which is yes, I'm grateful for that. Tell me,

631
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: what is the word you cannot live without?

632
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: Awesome?

633
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 1: That's a nice one. If you could live anywhere but Nashville,

634
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: where you live? Now? Where would you live?

635
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: Naples, Florida, Fort nomm Marmy, Italy, Queenstown.

636
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 5: New Zealand, Osaka, Japan?

637
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: I love You've got a whole list. I called Japan

638
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: of all the places?

639
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 5: Well, what ties you all? Piki mosk CONSI I die.

640
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: You spent a lot of time there.

641
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 5: I live there as.

642
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 4: An exchange student. It was a great experience. My first

643
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: plane ride was to Japan.

644
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing.

645
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 5: That's a college student.

646
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: And you would you would move there?

647
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: I love it?

648
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 5: Love it. Have you spent a time there?

649
00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: Been there once?

650
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 5: But oh you have to go spend time there? Great people.

651
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: What's the best advice you ever received?

652
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 4: Be yourself even when it's uncomfortable. And I'm going to

653
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 4: tell you a story Jim Brady. When I was interviewing

654
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 4: to be a baker, he wrote some of the senior

655
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: leadership at McDonald's and he said, She's going to come

656
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: across really excited and enthusiastic, but she's.

657
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 5: Smart too, in other words, not a bimbo.

658
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: And so.

659
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 4: I think it's not easy when people are excited about things.

660
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 5: You know, you've just got to be yourself and it'll

661
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 5: all work out.

662
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: And it does, it does, and it does.

663
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: If you could not do what you're doing now, what

664
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: would you do?

665
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 5: If I could not do what I'm doing now?

666
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: What would I do?

667
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 5: Boy?

668
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: I think I would organize women trying to get into

669
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 4: business on group trips so they can learn for one another.

670
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: Huh, and see other examples of successful entrepreneurs.

671
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Speaker 5: Yes, that would be fun.

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Speaker 2: You're you're you're a born entrepreneur.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's that's where as you look at this life,

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Speaker 1: you're like, there's always something that you're called to.

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Speaker 2: And I do think entrepreneurship you're called to.

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Speaker 4: Side I'm one hundred percent in agreement. I think you

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Speaker 4: are born with it, and and it's it's it's who

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Speaker 4: you are, it's a part of you. For years, Raymond,

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Speaker 4: I used to hope I would I would literally pray

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Speaker 4: that I could just be satisfied, because I was never satisfied.

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Speaker 4: And then I got involved with YPO Young President, and

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Speaker 4: I realized all it was.

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Speaker 5: Is just a bunch of entrepreneurs, that that's just who

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Speaker 5: we are. Never satisfied.

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Speaker 4: Got to rearrange things a little, got to get the restaurant,

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Speaker 4: see you want, you know, I mean, just crazy little stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's a little thing.

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Speaker 5: It's a disease, but it's.

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Speaker 1: A disease that many people thrive from, and it's really needed.

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Speaker 1: It's the engine that moves humanity in many ways. Tell

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Speaker 1: me about Ray Kroc. There was an article I read

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Speaker 1: where you mentioned Ray Kroc and how old he was

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Speaker 1: when he founded McDonald's.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that story.

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Speaker 4: Fifty five years old when he bought his first McDonald's

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Speaker 4: from the McDonald brothers, and he went on. And his

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Speaker 4: model is very biblical in my mind because he really

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Speaker 4: gave people opportunities to become all that they could be.

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Speaker 4: And when people are saying, well i'm too old to

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Speaker 4: start with something, No, no, we're not too old.

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Speaker 2: No, you've stopped listening, right listening?

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Speaker 5: Want to be all that God made you to be.

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Speaker 1: What happens when this is over, Well, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Sure there'll be another trip to plan or project to do.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we really do try to use these

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Speaker 4: opportunities in business as a ministry.

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Speaker 5: So I think it'll be a pretty smooth.

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Speaker 4: Transition where we continue to try to you know, invest

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Speaker 4: in people, invest in, not monetarily, but.

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Speaker 5: I mean invest in who they are, invest in helping

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Speaker 5: them be successful.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I love that question. It's always my

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Speaker 1: last question because everybody takes it differently. I asked a

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Speaker 1: musician the other day what happens when this is over?

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Speaker 2: He thought music. I asked you, and you thought business.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking the big over, this is over, heaven.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait, need too, And I hope the buns

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Speaker 1: are as good as the ones you bake.

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Speaker 2: Well that's all that will leave it there. You're so great,

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Speaker 2: thank you, so so much.

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Speaker 1: Great to me.

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Speaker 2: Here's the whole.

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Speaker 1: Cordea Harrington was forty three years old when she sold

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Speaker 1: for McDonald's franchises and took out a fifteen million dollar

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Speaker 1: loan to found the original Tennessee bun company that grew

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Speaker 1: into the bakery companies. She was willing to take enormous

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Speaker 1: risks on herself when asked where she got the gumption

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Speaker 1: to do that at forty three years old, She mentioned

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Speaker 1: Ray Kroc, who founded McDonald's at fifty two years old.

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Speaker 1: Your age doesn't matter, she said, it's energy and determination.

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Speaker 1: Her devotion to building her business, whatever it took, is inspiring,

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Speaker 1: as is she delighted to spend some time with Cordia

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Speaker 1: and to bring her to you, and I hope you'll

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Speaker 1: come back to Royo Grande soon. Why live a dry,

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Speaker 1: constricted life when if you fill it with good things,

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Speaker 1: it can flow into a broad, thriving Arroyo Grande. I'm

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Speaker 1: Raymond Arroyo. Make sure you subscribe like this episode, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for diving in, and we'll see you next time. Arroyo

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