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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Okay,

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Speaker 1: welcome back, guys to another episode of The Break. I'm

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Speaker 1: here with Nick and Dave. We are gonna be breaking

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Speaker 1: down the Lions defense today. But to start the show,

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Speaker 1: when I get an update on these injured guys that

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Speaker 1: we're out, Yes, you're they kind of see what's going

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Speaker 1: on there today. What's the update for Lyle Collins is

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Speaker 1: still absent from practice. Connor Williams is too, But we

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Speaker 1: knew that Jeff Heath is doing rehab. I don't think

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Speaker 1: doing injured guy things. Didn't see him actually practicing, but

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Speaker 1: he was inside with everybody else. I'm not sure what

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Speaker 1: that means for his participation level, but classic case of

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Speaker 1: think that that's just going to be the norm for

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Speaker 1: him for the rest of the year. Michael Bennett's back

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Speaker 1: from his excused absence whatever it was. Ah, yeah, all

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Speaker 1: things considered. Oh, Zack Martin's back to all things considered.

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Speaker 1: Not too shabby, too shabby. Jeff Heath what about CJ.

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Speaker 1: Goodwin back? He's pctice. Yeah, he returned. It was his ankle,

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Speaker 1: not as back, but he's back now. Before the show,

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Speaker 1: I asked some people on Twitter to send me some questions,

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Speaker 1: So if you guys want to send some more hit us.

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Speaker 1: At Cowboys Break I saw one of them, which I

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Speaker 1: honestly have not thought of this this way, But you know,

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Speaker 1: we keep asking and wondering, why are the Cowboys having

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Speaker 1: slow starts now? With having so many guys being out

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Speaker 1: Could that be a reason why the Cowboys are having

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Speaker 1: to kind of get back on track. I would buy

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Speaker 1: that if they were going three and out and punning

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Speaker 1: It's like the first time someone's tried to field goal

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen a lot. I yeah, that reminds me of

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Speaker 1: a stat I think our friend Bob Sturm had it something.

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Speaker 1: They're like, only only four or like, only eight field

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Speaker 1: That's what I would believe in. But whatever, where are

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Speaker 1: you getting that? Like, where would you get that information

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Speaker 1: It's happened four times in the last what is that

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Speaker 1: it's crazy that. I mean, that's nothing new. A guy

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Speaker 1: Dave got for us. I'm Jay Novachik, former tight end

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Speaker 1: old enough to go back to the early two thousand

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Speaker 1: oh sure crap going on there. Of course, two thousand

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Speaker 1: was the year of nine to eleven. Yeah, and I

427
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Speaker 1: believe it was that game that got pushed back to

428
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Speaker 1: the week I guess, or I think it was the

429
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Speaker 1: Detroit game they got moved to the very end of

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Speaker 1: the season. So they go in and they play that

431
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Speaker 1: game and they're one in fifteen or one fourteen. I'm

432
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Speaker 1: looking the subway and the Cowboys are five and ten

433
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Speaker 1: and they go and play the last game of the

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Speaker 1: Superdome season the Silverdome. Yeah, and it's terrible. They lost

435
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Speaker 1: to the team. Score. Um, this I don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you do, Yes, you do. Twenty to fourteen. Oh damn,

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Speaker 1: Typically I don't. This is bad radio. But like Nick

438
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Speaker 1: has the this uncanny ability to like remember the score

439
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Speaker 1: and the date. It was fifteen to ten, fifteen to ten. Well,

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Speaker 1: I do know that Dave Campo did not come back.

441
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: He had vertigo. He did that day. The next The

442
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: next year, we played the Lions up there, and I

443
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Speaker 1: can promise you the score was nine to seven. They

444
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Speaker 1: lost that game. It was terrible. They boot him at

445
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Speaker 1: Smith because he just broke the record, and they see it.

446
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: The Lions fans thought it should have been Barry Sanders's record.

447
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 1: And there's been some crappy games in this series, but

448
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: lately it's been pretty good. Yeah, nine to seven, you're right, okay,

449
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Speaker 1: I mean more often than not fifteen to ten. That

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Speaker 1: bothers me. I should have got that. It's okay, we'll

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Speaker 1: remember next time. Now, more often than not in in

452
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Speaker 1: my experience, this has been a really entertaining series. I

453
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Speaker 1: feel like it it won't It probably won't be this

454
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Speaker 1: week because I mean, the Lions will probably have Driscoll.

455
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Speaker 1: It's I think it's going to be a clunky performance.

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Speaker 1: We don't trust the Cowboys to play for complete quarters

457
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Speaker 1: so anyway, but there are plays to be made against

458
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Speaker 1: this defense, mainly because they don't rush the passer well

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Speaker 1: and I don't like the majority of their secondary. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's go ahead and take our final break, and then

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Speaker 1: when we come back, we'll answer some of the questions

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just it's here. It feels like it's dumming.

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Speaker 1: Don't it sounds so cheery about it? Jeez, Dallas Cowboys, Well,

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Speaker 1: mean it's alright, yeah, they put it up today. I

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Speaker 1: think it's like how how tall would you say? It

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Speaker 1: would be freaking twenty something feet? It's like at least

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Speaker 1: Bradley is seven seven. I'm thinking how many times would he? Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe you're right, maybe twenty five thirty. I don't think

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Speaker 1: New York City, but it's close. But it's sitting out

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Speaker 1: there on the plaza and it'll be the centerpiece of

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco dot com. Okay, thank you, Nick. So

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Speaker 1: Dave talked about the possibility of Dak having a clean

514
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Speaker 1: pocket and the Cowboys old line being able to kind

515
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: of keep it clean for him. I see several people

516
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: asking why has Dak not rent with the ball, guying

517
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Speaker 1: outside of the pocket more and use his feet. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that maybe in this game that could be

519
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: a possibility where we can start seeing him run with

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Speaker 1: the ball a little more. They need to if they

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Speaker 1: play the percentages like they say they do. There's some

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Speaker 1: stats out there that when he runs the ball three

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Speaker 1: or four times a game. I think it's four times

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Speaker 1: a game. They've only lost once, so I mean they

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Speaker 1: I think that they do better when he's actually there

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Speaker 1: a reason why they have kind of stopped from that. Eric, Yeah,

527
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Speaker 1: there a reason why. You're fifteen, said, I just thought

528
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Speaker 1: of Terry. Um. First of all, I want to throw

529
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Speaker 1: a caveat out there. Dak used his feet like a

530
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Speaker 1: mofo the other night. He bailed himself out of so

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Speaker 1: many situations. Don't worry about it. He bailed himself out

532
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: of so many situations. Now designed carries and runs absolutely Um.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense to me that you would

534
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Speaker 1: lean so heavily on on read option and never have

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Speaker 1: the quarterback keep the ball. Especially not only is he demonstrated,

536
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Speaker 1: you know, athleticism and the ability to pick it up,

537
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Speaker 1: but he's he's willing too. Like he I don't want

538
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Speaker 1: to go as far as to say he looks for contact,

539
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Speaker 1: but actually yeah, he kind of does. I mean he's

540
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: he's a big tough dude. He's not afraid of tacklers.

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Speaker 1: And I know you don't want to get your quarterback hurt.

542
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: But he can handle it a handful of times per game.

543
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: And that's are we blaming him absolutely not? Well? I

544
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: mean well, I mean mates, and if it's an RPO.

545
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: If he has the option, then it's on him and

546
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: maybe he's not seeing that look or maybe but that's

547
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: the thing is like I think somebody, very tongue in cheek,

548
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, he doesn't want to he doesn't want

549
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: to take those hits because he's like, if you know

550
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: anything about Dak, do you buy that. I don't buy

551
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: that at all. He's a competitor. I just wonder if

552
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: there are if it's sort of his option or or

553
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: are they not getting the looks? And I mean I

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Speaker 1: can imagine clearly him saying that, like I'm not getting

555
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: the looks, like do you do you want me to

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Speaker 1: keep it on a defensive end that's staying home and

557
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: and I you know, I'm getting tackled for minus two. No,

558
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Speaker 1: And I haven't looked at it closely enough to know

559
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Speaker 1: what the looks were. But there are ways too, There

560
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: are ways to scheme that stuff. I mean, where has

561
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback drawin? We love that play? Yeah, we love

562
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: that play and I don't remember the last time they

563
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Speaker 1: ran it. It seems like a perfect call for the

564
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: red zone, honestly, and it usually works when they do

565
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: that in the red zone. It's the epitome of hidden

566
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Speaker 1: yardage because Dak could finish a game with three carries

567
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: for it doesn't even have to be like a forty

568
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: two yarder like he did against Washington. He finished with

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Speaker 1: three carries for nine yards and two of those three

570
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: picked up You know, if you get nine yards and

571
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: two of those carries are for eight so two carries

572
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: of four yards, you pick up two different third and

573
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: shorts and that is the difference between winning and losing sometimes.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, they need to do it more. I don't

575
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: know why that was only the fourth time in his

576
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: career he didn't carry the ball at all, and it

577
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: probably just shouldn't happen. He's too useful as a runner. Again,

578
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Speaker 1: I'm not asking him to do a fifteen times a game,

579
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Speaker 1: but it's very useful. Now, on a different topic, we

580
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Speaker 1: know that Dyke is still looking for a contract, and

581
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: we know that Amari Cooper is still looking for a contract.

582
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Speaker 1: With what has been going on injury wise in regards

583
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Speaker 1: to a Mari Cooper in his leg and his foot,

584
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Speaker 1: Does this change anything as far as what you're thinking

585
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: about his future here with the Cowboys. No, No, I

586
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: canna do it in like six different octaves, that one,

587
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: that one baritone. No, he's why because he's awesome. He's missed.

588
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: He's your first round draft pick this year. He missed

589
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: one game, right, and by doing that, when they did that,

590
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: you knew that that they're gonna make this work. Remember

591
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: keeping in mind that he himself and Mari has said

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Speaker 1: that he has battled with this foot thing. I forget

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Speaker 1: the name of the planet. Yes, he has battled with

594
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: that through his career. Was not battling his toes. His

595
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: toes are good. That's he barely practiced last week and

596
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: came out and made like four of the most absurd

597
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: plays of the season in one night. And it must,

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Speaker 1: like I know, we talked about it at the time,

599
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: he must have been in a ton of pain to

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Speaker 1: leave that Jets game the way he did, because he's

601
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: fought through so much stuff and it hasn't even seemed

602
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: to bother him. I mean the Jets game, he played

603
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: three snaps and sat down. But other than that has

604
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: he just been a non factor. And like in I

605
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: think he had like a forty maybe he had like

606
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: forty yards against Washington, but he still caught a touchdown.

607
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 1: He's been awesome all year. You know, while fighting through

608
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Don't know what's going on with a

609
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: Dack contract. I can't give you that one. There's a

610
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: little bit more going on with Cooper as far as

611
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Speaker 1: his agents and the you probably heard this too, like

612
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: the agency that is going on there, Like I think

613
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Speaker 1: that they're splitting up and they're you know, his Israel

614
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: agent is starting a different firm, and so this is

615
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff happening there that it slows the process, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little bit. And I don't think Cooper's in a

617
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 1: big hurry. He's just not. But I think that one's

618
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: going to happen. But I don't really know what's holding

619
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Speaker 1: up the Dack thing. I mean, I think we kind

620
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: of mean numbers. I mean, yeah, guaranteed. I think guaranteed money.

621
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: I've said it on him before. I think the guaranteed

622
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: money that is that Goff and Wentz have is way

623
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: higher than DAK because of that's the money that they

624
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: got when they when they were drafted. And so they

625
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: put out a report over the weekend that was like,

626
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, no progress was made during the bye week,

627
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: which means DAK is heading for the franchise tag. And

628
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: I have heard nothing that suggests that that's true. I mean, obviously,

629
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Speaker 1: if it gets to that point, that's what you would do.

630
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Speaker 1: But I've i haven't heard anything that gives me the

631
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Speaker 1: indication that, like, well, you know, talks are done. We're

632
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: not like we're gonna have to tag him. I haven't

633
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: heard that at all. Jerry Jones addressed it on the

634
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: radio this week. He was like, the reporter that put

635
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: that out doesn't know what he's talking about, because I'm

636
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: the only person in the world that's privy to all

637
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: those details. It's weird, how like, considering that they would

638
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: have to franchise both of those guys or either one

639
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: of those guys, I should say, and there's some wiggle

640
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: room there because the transition tag is out there and

641
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: franchise tag. Point being it's mid November and those guys

642
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: are unsigned, and I'm not super worried about it. I'm

643
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: really not, because, like they are playing like badasses, they

644
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: both want to be here. But there is a trickle

645
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: down effect and it might go to Byron Jones or

646
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: sure everybody else. Of course, that you can't franchise because

647
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to hold it for these guys, and

648
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: maybe you know, what's your what you can only franchise

649
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: one right, what's your confidence percentage that Dak and Amari

650
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: are going to get long term deals here? Nine? Yeah,

651
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: that's yeah, no, less than like ninety eight percent. So

652
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: I don't really know what the hold up is. I

653
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: don't really know when it's going to happen. But Byron

654
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: Jones being here next year, that's like forty eight for me.

655
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: Does it change if the head coach changes as far

656
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: as to be like long, oh, I need a new quarterback,

657
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: I need a different quarterback or something like that. I

658
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: know that's a that's a good question. It is a

659
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: good question, but that won't be your head coach, Like

660
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: Jerry's gonna make sure to get somebody that can work

661
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: with that's dack line, which well everything Dak has shown

662
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: through nine games, like if you can't work with him, yeah,

663
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: which most of the people listening to this show don't

664
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: like the current head coach. Can you imagine if you

665
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: sit down with the guy and he says, you know,

666
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: first thing I would do is I'd probably want to

667
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: draft the quarterback and I would say thank you for coming.

668
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: It's been This is a very impressive presentation that you

669
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: gave us the doors that way. Okay, most of the

670
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: people listening to this don't think the current coaching staff

671
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: is getting the most out of Dak. Would you say?

672
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: That's fair to say? Yeah? Yeah, so, and he's still

673
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: playing like a beast, Like if he's got a few

674
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: less interceptions or a few more wins, he's in the

675
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: MVP conversation. So any coach you would hire should be

676
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: able to work with him. I don't think it's that

677
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: big of an ass. I don't know about that that

678
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: statement you just made it. I kind of was like, oh, yeah, yeah,

679
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: but okay, but when you say it again, the current

680
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: staff is not getting the most out of Dak. I mean,

681
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: I said, most of the people listening to the show

682
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: think though, okay, and that's what do you think about that?

683
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: I mean, a fourth round pick compared story pick, he's

684
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: come in here, he's been the franchise quarterback for four years.

685
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: I think they're getting a lot out of it. They're

686
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: getting a ton out of him, I think. And actually,

687
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: to be fair to what I just said, like, I

688
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: think John Kittena has done wonders for Dak. I think

689
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: he's been fantastic. I guess my point just being little

690
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 1: things like the fact that he didn't have a carry

691
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: in that game, or some of the play calling. It.

692
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean it, you know, thinking back to the New

693
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: Orleans game, thinking back to the insistent on running on

694
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: first and long situations all the time, I think I

695
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: think he could even still be better. Yeah, I guess

696
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: is my point fair. I just but I didn't want

697
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: to throw out there that we don't think this staff

698
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: is has done good job with him, because you know,

699
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: now everybody was wrong just having maximized his abilities and

700
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: his potential. You know, we did see we did see

701
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: a growth when Kidnap came in here, and that translated

702
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: to what Dak has been able to do so far.

703
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: But I think, like Dave said, placing him in the

704
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: right situation and not just him, when you talk about

705
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: the talent in general in the offense and making sure

706
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: you're calling plays that are suitable for your guys and

707
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: trying to be more creative, you know, you keep talking

708
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: about creativity and placing these guys in a better position

709
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: rather than keep banging on and doing the same thing

710
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: over and over. If if they were to hire a

711
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: new coach and a candidate were to say like, well,

712
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: we'll have to change quarterbacks like that, go away, get

713
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: out of it. That's no go, move on, push on

714
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: as what they say. And I don't think that would

715
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: be this case for Cooper either. I mean, I think

716
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: any coach that wants to coach the Cowboys you'll be

717
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: just fine with. You're gonna have to deal with a

718
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: lot more, most of it off the field, things that

719
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: you have to just be okay with, you'll be fine

720
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: with Cooper and dak as your pasure. We're really thinking

721
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: we need a wide receiver, Like why would we want

722
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: a guy who can play all three positions and does

723
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: something insane twice at game. I can't wait to see

724
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: what happens when he has healthy feet and legs and knees,

725
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: because it's been battling something every game and it's you

726
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: wouldn't know it. The Raiders are playing pretty well, so

727
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to completely call John Gruden an idiot,

728
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: but I like, what about Amari Cooper makes you think like, well,

729
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: we can't get it done with this guy. I don't know,

730
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened there that doubt well, he

731
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: proved them wrong. He said that he wanted to make

732
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: sure he wanted to prove that the Cowboys were right

733
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: by now. He always like he's always really taken the

734
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: high road about that, Like he never talks about proving

735
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: people wrong. He's just like, I want to prove that

736
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: they the Cowboys made a good game. Now the Raiders

737
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: are going to be okay. They have a winning record,

738
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: I believe, and keep getting five and four or five

739
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: and four. They're alive in the AFC wild Card and

740
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: they're gonna get picks. I mean the three this year,

741
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: but they're gonna probably get more. I mean they still

742
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: have one from the Mac trade. Yeah, no, I mean

743
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: they'll have some. They appear to be in pretty good

744
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: shape because I also got the third easiest schedule in

745
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: the NFL for the rest of the year. Well, the

746
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: AFC is if the Cowboys were in the AFC, the

747
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: narrative would be so much different. Or I mean, like

748
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: where the Jets are you mean, like in that division?

749
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, but the Jets are in the Age. Yeah,

750
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: they lost to a bad Jets team. I'm just saying

751
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: I can't stack up the stack up the AFC in

752
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: the NFC and tell me which field you'd rather be

753
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: competing against I get it so well. Since we're in

754
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: the coaching topic, let's go ahead and switch it to

755
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: the defense side of things. People keep asking back and forth,

756
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: Chris R. Shar Rot, Mary Nelly, what is the dynamic there?

757
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: Why have we again? You can't compare one team from

758
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: last year to this necessarly, but there's still a comparison

759
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: there due to the fact of the same kind of

760
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: group of people. How do you think that there has

761
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: been a difference there between that relationship and who has

762
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: a bigger voice in the room now this year? I

763
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: don't think so, not really. I think that there's a

764
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: good understanding of that. UM. I know this is the

765
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: first year that Chris Richard has kind of taken over

766
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: as the voice to the media. To you know that

767
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: that's happened this year. This year with the it'll happen

768
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: here in about thirty minutes when the coordinators talk, and

769
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: I think that's a sign of how good their relationship is.

770
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli, He's he's been the DC in a variety

771
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: of places forever. He's given more interviews than you could count.

772
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: He was the head coach of a team and Troy

773
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: Detroit Yeah sixteen, Yeah, he had to deal with that

774
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: during an O and sixteen season. He knows that Chris

775
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: Rochard wants to be a head coach and that you

776
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: need that type of experience like he's having. Chris Rashard

777
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: talked to the media as training like you need this

778
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: if if you're going to take that step. I think

779
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: it's a good sign of the friendly and you know,

780
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: respectful nature of their relationship. I don't think there's any

781
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: trauma there at all. I think, I mean, the defense

782
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: is just so hard to figure out because their their

783
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: stats suggest that they're they're one of the best against

784
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: the run, against the past, not giving up a lot

785
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: of points. But it hasn't been enough. It hasn't been

786
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: enough to get up five and four records. But that's

787
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: the funny thing, is like, and you know, we've had

788
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: this conversation too, Like at the end of the day,

789
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: they're still not like horrendous, you know, Like, I mean

790
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: you can watch the Lions, like the Cowboys aren't thirtieth

791
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: in the league. They're not bad. But it's the nature

792
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: of this thing that when you lose games, you know,

793
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: Chris Chris Roshard was the most popular man in Cowboy Nation.

794
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: All of last year, like and and a lot of

795
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: people still do of him, and I still think he's

796
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: a good coach. But when things aren't going well, you're like, well,

797
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: something must have changed. He sucks now, like he must

798
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 1: him and Rod must hate each other or you know whatever,

799
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: or yeah, you just look for reasons or it's just

800
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: the nature of the NFL. I mean, Jalen Smith is

801
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: this is his second year, last year as a linebacker,

802
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: and it was the first for Layton Vanders. They're going

803
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: to get better. And Byron Jones first year as a

804
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: corner makes All Pro second team. He's gonna get better.

805
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: Cheeto is gonna get better that they got Robert Quinn.

806
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: They're gonna get better. And that's that's what hasn't happened.

807
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: They're not bad. They're just not better than what they

808
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: were last year. And you all the signs pointed that

809
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: they would be and should be, but they're just not

810
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: clearly better. They're just kind of but not your phone

811
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: not even charging, it's just it's holding its charge. It's

812
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: just not up to That's so great. I love that.

813
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: That's what it is like when you, like you plug

814
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: your phone in for fifteen minutes and you'd come back

815
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: expecting it to be twenty thirty percent higher and you're like,

816
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: what the hell, it only bumped up. Yeah, it's not

817
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: that's sitting. Maybe had a backcourt and he stopped charging

818
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: for like a second, and now you're down to thirteen percent.

819
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, even when you compared to last year,

820
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: they're they're not playing bad, but it's just not. The

821
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: plays are not as explosive as they were, Like the

822
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: expectation was elite. They are root. We're going to keep

823
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: the phone analogy what this whole team is done. You

824
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 1: know when it's crazy when when you have a charger

825
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: that's like it's on, but it doesn't. Yeah, the mechanisms working, Yeah,

826
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: like it is charging if you hold it like this.

827
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what the team is. It's like we

828
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: should you should do what podcasting? That's great, that's I

829
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: love that, And now there's nothing to further it even more,

830
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: like there's nothing more frustrating. Then when you're like, well,

831
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: if I've been the charger this way, I get some

832
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: juice and if I don't, then hate that. You're just

833
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: it's the worst, Like what you're doing. You're like, I'm

834
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 1: just charging with from like, well, maybe you know, it's

835
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: it's November fifteenth and it's windy outside, so maybe they'll

836
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: play better. But they're not Newton Blue Jersey saying Nate said,

837
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: it's the blue jersey's fault that they lost the other night.

838
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: I cannot believe. What do you say though, So you know,

839
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: he's like, we don't wear blue with the crib. I

840
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: cannot believe that a pro Bowl player blamed a loss

841
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: on the jersey. Eight Speaking of Nate, they're coming up here. Yeah,

842
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: they're coming up next hanging with the boys, so make

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Speaker 1: sure to stay put and join them. They always have

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Speaker 1: a fun time over there, so that's always a fun show. Now,

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Speaker 1: that is all the time we have for today. Is

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Speaker 1: there something else you want to say? They I just

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Speaker 1: I love that analogy so much. Like the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: a faulty cell phone. That's exactly what they are. That's

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Speaker 1: pretty bad. Given all the money that they make, you

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Speaker 1: should be able to buy a good working charger. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for Nickiman, David Hellman, remember your sea.

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Speaker 1: This has been the break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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