1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Phil Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to The 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Philly Show. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Reuben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's Lucky, the 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: Philly Show. It's Thursday May. 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 3: The Todd Pod. 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: You know what's so funny? 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: I just told my daughter, my six year old, Margo, 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: I said, him going downstairs to do the pod, and she. 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Goes, she goes, why do you call it the pod? 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: And I said, well, that's what it is. It's a podcast. 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: It's the pod. 12 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: And she goes, it's the todcast. 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 3: It's very funny coming out of his six year old's mouth. 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 15 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: She doesn't know that it's. 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: The Todd Pod though, right, or that's what a lot 17 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: of people called it, you know. 18 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, anyway, so. 19 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: The Todd Pod, the Toodcast. 20 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: I like to call it the Philly Show because here 21 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: we are talking Phillies. Phillies got rained out Wednesday night, 22 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: so they're going to do a double header on Thursday, 23 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: the old split day night double header. 24 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: Uh. 25 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: Christopher Sanchez starting Game one, Zach Wheeler starting Game two. 26 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: But Tuesday night to nothing win against the Braves. What 27 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: jumped out of you guys about that series opening win? Jim, 28 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: you were typing away of hacking. 29 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: He was hacking it up. 30 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: I saw Ruben there, who's up in the top bro 31 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 4: as we say, stuffing it in. 32 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: I was eating a very very balanced meal. Thank you. 33 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 5: That's it. That's the story of John Vukovich. 34 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: That's an homage to John Vukovich, who was always in 35 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: great shape. I mean just always in great shape. And 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: anytime he ever walked by you and you were eating something, 37 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 4: he'd say, stuff it in. Anyway, anyway, missed that man. 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 4: We missed that man. Yeah, which you know, I thought 39 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 4: it was a really good ball game. I mean it 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 4: was a gritty win for the Phillies. Max Kepler, you know, 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 4: Alec Bohm draws a walk off strider and what the 42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: third inning, Max Kepler has a really big hit. Boem 43 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 4: does a good job getting around from first to score 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 4: that run, even though he's not very fleet of foot. 45 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 4: It seemed like it took him forever, but he got 46 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 4: there and then they squeeze out a run. 47 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 5: Late. Great pitching rangers. Juarez. 48 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 4: I didn't have like impeccable command, but he had a 49 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 4: lot of good things going for him, including that change up. 50 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: You know, three of his last four have just been outstanding. 51 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: Kind of a reminder of how good he is, you know, 52 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 4: when he's healthy. And then Orian Kirkering, Matt Strom and 53 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 4: Jordan Romano were. 54 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 5: Excellent out of the bullpen. So that's five shutouts in 55 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 5: the last twenty days for the Phillies pitching staff. Pretty good. 56 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 4: So, I mean that really jumped out at me. I 57 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 4: know there is a sensational element to it all. Harper 58 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 4: took one off the elbow early, and I mean that's 59 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: not sensational that he took one off the elbow. 60 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 5: I mean he was lucky, They're lucky. 61 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: And that was also a reminder that this team's biggest 62 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 4: need is good health. In my opinion, they need both 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 4: on help, but more than anything, they need their big 64 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: guys to stay healthy. The last few years they've played 65 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 4: through injuries and there are limits to how many times you. 66 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 5: Can do that. You can't lose the Brice Harper. So 67 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 5: that was a great thing. 68 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: But when I'm talking about the incendiary nature of it all, 69 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 4: you know, are they going to retaliate? Will they retaliate? 70 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 4: Did he do it on purpose? I don't think Spencer 71 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 4: Strider did it on purpose. But that said, you know, 72 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 4: you buzz the big guy, even accidentally, and that's three 73 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 4: games in a row he's been hit. 74 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 5: I'm not really in favor. 75 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 4: Of starting a war, and to me, retaliation is not 76 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: the word I would use. But I do think you 77 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: have to send a message that we're going to protect 78 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 4: our mothership here. You know, you mess with our mothership, 79 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: you're going to get one up around your nogging. So 80 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: I am curious to see on Thursday if it ever 81 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: stops raining here on the East Coast. I noticed Andrew 82 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: Patrick got rained out on Wednesday in Norfolk. But if 83 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 4: ever ever stops raining here on Thursday, interesting to see 84 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 4: how that is handled. I don't think you have to 85 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 4: go out and break somebody's jaw. I don't think you 86 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 4: have to remove a rib. But I do think pitching 87 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 4: staff has to have the hitters' backs a little bit here, 88 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: and he's a very important guy, just to send that 89 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: message forward that you're not going to mess with our 90 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: big guns right room coming in, the team coming in. 91 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: It's in the back of their head, absolutely, rub But 92 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on this. 93 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: But we got to go to the right after these words. 94 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: Right after these words. 95 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 6: Ft fam, you might have a boring, old, krusty, unpretty 96 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 6: razor and it might be expensive, so AJ should they 97 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 6: consider another option? 98 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 7: How cool this is? 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That winner never responded, so we picked 118 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: another winner and Sean Denham won the Manco Manco Gift 119 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: Card for April, and he responded right away in our 120 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: DM and guess what, I hope he's telling the truth. 121 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: He's throwing out the first. 122 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 2: Pitch tomorrow Thursday at the ballpark. If Sewan, you better 123 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: be telling us the truth. But congratulations and winning the 124 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: Manco Manco Gift Card. We're having another giveaway at the 125 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: end of the month. So Ruben, after the game, I 126 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 2: was watching the post game show. After the game, you 127 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: even thought that maybe maybe Jordan Romano might take a 128 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: little you know, maybe plunk somebody in the ninth inning 129 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: you what's your take on on on Harper. 130 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was the that was came from 131 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: Ricky Bow when he was talking Ricky Bow might do it. 132 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: I do believe they were to retaliate. I will tell 133 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: you this, if I was in that clubhouse and then 134 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: that dugout, and I've seen it happen because I watched 135 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: it and I've been. 136 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 8: In the middle of one of these Dave Hollins and 137 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 8: I were getting plunked quite a bit. In nineteen ninety 138 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 8: two to the point where it got a little ridiculous, 139 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 8: and in fact, Dave Hollins had a little discussion with 140 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 8: the pitching staff more than a discussion. 141 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: Listen, you got to protect your own, especially when you're 142 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: talking about your big boys three times in a row. 143 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: That one. I don't care whether it was intentional or not. 144 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: It was intentional to throw the ball in. And Strider 145 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: has to have better command than that. I know that 146 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: he's been struggling with his command a little bit since 147 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: he's been back, and it's been early for him coming 148 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: back from the TJ. That doesn't mean crap to me, 149 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: because you got to protect your guys. I'm not saying 150 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: that you necessarily have to be a eye for an eye, 151 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: but there's a protection there is. There is a code code, 152 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: There is a code that I think it's important to establish. 153 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: And I said this on the post game. I don't 154 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 3: know what's going to happen. They got a lot a 155 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 3: lot of games to play against the Atlanta Braves. Someone 156 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: will go down, I guarantee it, and it will be purposeful, 157 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: but it will not look like it's purposeful because nowadays, 158 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: no one lets anything slide and. 159 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 9: There's you know, there's all these alerts all the time 160 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 9: to the umpires, and you know they don't anybody suspended, 161 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 9: IMT So do it intelligently and and I think that 162 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 9: they will. 163 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 4: The message though, isn't just to the braves, Oh no doubt. Yeah, 164 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: everybody notices everything. 165 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 5: I see that. 166 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: You know, phillies aren't screwing around and listen, I will 167 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: tell you I've known Rob Thompson a long time. 168 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 10: He's never going to tell anybody to go punk somebody. 169 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 10: That's not what he does. But he does believe in 170 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 10: playing the game the right way, whatever that means. And 171 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 10: part of that is protecting your house. This is your home, 172 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 10: and this is your house and you need to protect it. 173 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: So if you guys could draw it up in a 174 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: way that works. In other words, it's easy to say, 175 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: Christopher Sanchez tomorrow in game one should just drill Ronald 176 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: Lacuna Junior on the first pitch. 177 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: Uh, send him the first base. 178 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: Maybe warnings are issued, but then say, now, Christopher Sanchez 179 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: in the third inning, loses one and another fastball. 180 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: Now he's out of the game. 181 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: Oh crap, Now you've kind of screwed yourself in a doubleheader. 182 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: So like I think timing plays a part in as well. 183 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: So if you guys could draw it up, what's the. 184 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: Best time to uh, you know, send that message without 185 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: screwing yourself over? Because I you know, like last night, 186 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: I would not have thrown at anybody. Last night, they 187 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: were up one nothing going going into the eighth inning. 188 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: You put a guy on. 189 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 2: Now the next thing you know, there's a couple of 190 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: flares and you know, boom, you lose that game. I 191 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: want to win that game on Tuesday night if I'm 192 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: the Philly, So I don't throw at anybody on Tuesday 193 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: night and one nothing in game. 194 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: Now, what do you guys do? 195 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 4: I still I kind of I kind of lay back 196 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: a little bit and lay and wait for the for 197 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: the right time, and maybe the best retaliation of all 198 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: is sweep him and kick him right out of town, 199 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: right off to the airport, and we're going to see 200 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 4: you again, you know, a couple more times at that point, 201 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 4: maybe the retribution comes, but you kind of store it 202 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: and and you wait for the right time, and uh, 203 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: it'll happen. 204 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: I will say this, It will depend on the picture. 205 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: Who knows what picture might step forward and do it 206 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: and just say, you know what, I'm protecting Harper. I'm 207 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: protecting our team, and that's okay. If he takes it 208 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: upon himself to do it, I'm all for it. And 209 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: the appens that sinkred happened to run a little bit bad, 210 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: and that needs to be responded to. 211 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 11: And I hope here's where having a feel for the game, 212 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 11: we're not trying to necessarily hurt someone, We're not trying 213 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 11: to knock somebody out of the game. 214 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: But there is there is a part of the game 215 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: that I think that the umpires the officials have to 216 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: understand that the team has to be protected and that's 217 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: really really important too. And so hopefully if it does happen, 218 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 3: maybe they get issued a warning at that point whatever, 219 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 3: maybe they hopefully don't do suspensions, whatever the case may be. 220 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: But I'm sorry, man, it's Bryce Harper exactly. 221 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 4: The Braves are a very professional outfit, and I bet 222 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 4: there's a few of those pros over there in that club. 223 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 5: Polse saying, I would expect it. 224 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 4: Somebody's gonna wear it, drop your bat and run to 225 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: first base and it's over. I mean that big Austin Riley, 226 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 4: you plunk him in the hip, that kid's a pro. 227 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 5: You know what he's doing. 228 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 4: He gets one in the hip, he's dropping his bat 229 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 4: and he's jogging the first and the whole thing is over. 230 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: It's interesting that you say that because I'm not sure 231 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: who was pitching. Maybe it was a Ryan Kirkring who 232 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: was late in the game. Did he face Acuna at 233 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: the end of the game he threw us first? Yes, 234 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: it was. He threw a first pitch sinker on him 235 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 3: and it ran in and it wasn't even close to him, 236 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: but it was like a Kuna snapped and looked at 237 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: him like, what are you doing? Are you? Is this 238 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: the retaliation? I watched it, and I watched it pretty closely. 239 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, dude, say that kid's trying to freaking 240 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: get somebody out. He's trying to close out this game 241 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: on a one run game. He's not trying to throw you, right. 242 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: But you know, some people don't get it. Rus freaking 243 00:12:59,320 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: get it. 244 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: I think Brian Snicker and Rick Kranitz and that coaching 245 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: staff get it. They will understand they get it. In 246 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: Game two, they're up big, Phillies are up big six nothing. 247 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: In the seventh inning, Zach Wheeler hit. 248 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: Somebody or whenever it might happen. 249 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: Zach does not think to have something about that game 250 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: about Ranger Suarez that I was really thoroughly impressed with. 251 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: You're right, Jim, he wasn't super sharp with all of 252 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 3: his stuff, but you know, when I was preparing to 253 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: see what, you know, how he had been attacking the 254 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: eaters over the last three starts prior to this start. 255 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: One of the things that I noticed that his arsenal 256 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: usage had kind of been all over the map. Thirty 257 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 3: percent sinkers one day, thirty percent four seemers another day, 258 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: you know, twenty five percent change ups another day. The 259 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 3: fact that he used his sinker thirty percent of the 260 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 3: time and he had used a sinker like twelve percent 261 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: of the time in prior starts. I mean, he's mixing 262 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: it up because he's sort of acting a little more like, 263 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: more maturely. And I think part of that is having 264 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: JT back there understanding it that some pictures are working 265 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: today and some pictures are not. And his changeup was 266 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: very good, and he utilized it was very effective. But 267 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: he went to that more and more because it was 268 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: his effective pitch. It's something it's a theme that I've 269 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: been seeing with several different pictures. Obviously, some guys have 270 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: better pitches than others, but I think Zach Wheeler sort 271 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: of sets the tone in that regard because I've watched him. 272 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: I know he's going to use his four seamer, but 273 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: that secondary pitch he may not have his kurvebo or 274 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: as sweeper, so he uses a splint or he uses 275 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: a sinker board. So he's a guy that that I 276 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: think a lot of people are either feeding off of 277 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: or JT is working through some of these guys. Whatever, 278 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: the combination is pretty JT. 279 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 5: JT's senses, what's what's working, and rides it. I mean Range. 280 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: I asked Ranger about the change up after the game 281 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: and he kind of laughed and said, I said, when 282 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: did you know you had a good change up? He said, 283 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 4: in the bullpen. Had a really good change up in 284 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 4: the bullpen and got seven swings and misses on it. 285 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 5: It was a really good pitch. 286 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. I Mean, that's what I like about this staff 287 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: is that they're they're not cookie cuttering this thing. Man, 288 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: They're they're doing it, not just working on hitters' weaknesses, 289 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: but also they're working on and pitching with their strengths, 290 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: and that's that's old that's old school baseball. 291 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 4: And I forgot what inning it was, and I have 292 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 4: to point it out because we pointed out when things 293 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 4: don't go well. Tredy Turner made a hell of a 294 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 4: play a ball up to the middle with runners on 295 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 4: base to start a It was not a double play, 296 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 4: but it was a force on a second. 297 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 5: I don't know if you remember that play. But he's 298 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 5: played some really good baseball lately. 299 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: Yep. All around, there's been much more, much better, especially defensively. 300 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tray has been on His has been ridiculous. 301 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: He's been playing, you know. 302 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 5: A ton of hits. 303 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: He's doing he's doing what I sort of expected him 304 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: to do for the Phillies. But he's starting to play 305 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: better defensively too. 306 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: And it really just shows, you know, and just how 307 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: productive the end of this role that they're on right now. 308 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: Just get on base man and and you're gonna score 309 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: a bunch of runs. He's on pace to what I have, 310 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: two hundred hits, one hundred runs, forty stolen bases. 311 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: That yeah, yeah, so he's. 312 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: The last time the best person to do that was 313 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: Ronald Lacuni. 314 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely last Phillies player, Jerrol, Yeah, Jerrol. 315 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, trade Turn has just been absolutely phenomenal. 316 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, it will be interesting though, guys going back 317 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: to Bryce to see what happens tonight on Thursday afternoon, 318 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: Thursday night, and there is no retaliation on Thursday. 319 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: It'll have and at some point I got several more games. 320 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah they can. 321 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 4: And Bryce, you know, who knows if he's even gonna play. 322 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 4: I mean, because there was no crack in the bone, 323 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 4: and that's a great thing. It doesn't mean he doesn't 324 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 4: have a freaking egg on. 325 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: That on that he doesn't bruise, and he does not swell. 326 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,239 Speaker 4: Jim And most amazing thing I've ever seen in all 327 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 4: my years of covering baseball. He takes ninety seven off 328 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 4: the face and walks away and his face is fine, 329 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 4: but his wrist hurts because it bounces off his wrist. 330 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: That was amazing. That was a thing I've ever seen. 331 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: April twenty first, twenty twenty one. 332 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: Bush. 333 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 5: Honestly, I thought the worst. I mean, it was yep. 334 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: Well, you remember when Bryce came back. 335 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: He said at that moment, he was like, you know, 336 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 2: thinking of his wife and his kids. 337 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: You know, thinking the worst, and. 338 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 5: You remember what his mother told him. 339 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 3: I don't. 340 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 5: Bryce's mother told him the angels were with you tonight. 341 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: Oh yes, they're pretty religious folk. 342 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, so all right, we got, we got. I 343 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 2: want to ask you guys some little base running stuff 344 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: right after these messages. 345 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 6: The weather is warming up, and with that being said, 346 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 6: you need to check out what Roeback is bringing to 347 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 6: the table. If you're a golfer especially and you're looking 348 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 6: for golf shirts that just have the perfect style and 349 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 6: also are soft. They're lightweight and perfect for the summertime, 350 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 6: Roeback is the spot. Of course, FT's hooking you up 351 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 6: with the code for twenty percent off at rowback dot com. 352 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 6: That's foul on r HO b a c K dot 353 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 6: com for twenty percent off all shorts, hoodies, polos and more. 354 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so we talked a little bit about the unwritten 355 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 2: rules of baseball with Bryce Harper getting hit and what 356 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: might happened Thursday or in the series to come against 357 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 2: the Braves. 358 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: But there were some interesting base running. 359 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: Plays over the last few days with the Phillies and Rubin. 360 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 2: You know, you were a base running coach and we 361 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 2: just appreciate you know it's good solid baseball. 362 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: I mean Chase la I always loved watching him run 363 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: the bas as. 364 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: He was one of the best base runners I've ever seen. 365 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: So in the Braves game, I think it was last Friday, 366 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: Eli White is on. 367 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: Second base. 368 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: Right second base, Ozzy Alby's lines a single to shallow 369 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: center field. 370 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: It drops. 371 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,719 Speaker 2: The third base coach is down the line, puts up 372 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: his hands stop stop stop. He thinks for some reason 373 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: the ball was caught. He returns to second base and 374 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: gets thrown out and kills this ninth inning rally by 375 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: potential ninth inning rally to come back and beat the 376 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: Podres and Ruben I was reading you were you mentioned 377 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: it on X on Friday night, and I think maybe 378 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: even the next day. 379 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: So people say, yeah, that was a third base coach. 380 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 2: Is fault or you know who's at fault here? 381 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: Like what should have happened here? 382 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: So walk us through that play because I thought that 383 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: was really interesting, really interesting base running blunder by Eli 384 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 2: White of the Braves. 385 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: I mean, typically the Braves, you know, when they come 386 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: through their system, they're they're well coached, they understand the game, 387 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: what have you. There's a ball that's at a semi 388 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 3: line drive and it's a ball. I mean, it's a 389 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: big part of the game. Because they scored that run. 390 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: I think they either win the game or their their 391 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: pot up. 392 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 8: And Eli White actually made the right initial break. 393 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 3: He sort of didn't as he was running from second 394 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: to third. It seemed to me because he put the 395 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: brakes on. It seemed to me that maybe he didn't 396 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 3: believe that he was actually making the right read, which 397 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: he did. And at that point, even if he gets 398 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 3: even if the ball is caught, he's out anyway. There's 399 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 3: no way that even if he stops and the ball's 400 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: caught in the air, he's going to get doubled up anyway. 401 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: So like at that point, I mean, you're already halfway pregnant. 402 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: Maybe you gotta go. I mean so so for me, 403 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: I think actually the the third base coach did a 404 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 3: good job as he was down the line. He was 405 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 3: way down the line because he had to make sure that, 406 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 3: you know, if he was going to send the guy 407 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 3: or not. He's putting his hands up to stop him. 408 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: Because the center fielder got to the ball very very quickly, 409 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 3: he wasn't going to score him. But the kid thought 410 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 3: that he was telling him to go back. It wasn't that. 411 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: That's not the sign to go back, that's the sign 412 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: to stop. Maybe, like why did he put his hand that, Well, 413 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: you don't want he didn't want him to stay right 414 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 3: there at third base. He wanted to keep coming in 415 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: case the ball's bobbled. So you don't point to third 416 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 3: base unless there's going to be a play on him 417 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: at third base. And so it was just a mistake. 418 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: It was a blunder. 419 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe maybe uh maybe to read was so quick, 420 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 4: maybe it kind of confused. I'm not saying it should, 421 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 4: but maybe it confused the base run because it went 422 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: up so quick. 423 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 3: And then he had the right read. And for folks 424 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: to be out there blaming the base coach on it, 425 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 3: you know, I saw that. 426 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: I was like, how can you blame the third base 427 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: coach on that one? I mean, there's you know a 428 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: lot of times to rip a third base coach, I guess, 429 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: but that was not one of them. And then the 430 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 2: next night in Sacramento with a brilliant base running play 431 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: by Kyle Schwarber. On Saturday Night, he hits a double 432 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: in the eleventh inning and he runs the first baseman 433 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 2: the ace first baseman making his major league debut. Schwarber 434 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 2: runs into the guy and goes, Okay, I'm going to 435 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: keep running, doesn't stop running, runs the third base, gets 436 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: thrown out by a mile, but he points over, hey, 437 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: I got I got obstructed. Boom gets awarded third base. 438 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: He ends up scoring I think on the next was 439 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: it the next batter? But that was just you know, 440 00:22:54,680 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber just being super smart. And that's that's what 441 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: about base running that you know. 442 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: I believe that when I was at the helm of 443 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 3: the organization, and I think that there's nothing that sets 444 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: the tone more as an organization when you really run 445 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 3: the base as well or you run hard, and that 446 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 3: sets the tone throughout the organization. When you have that reputation, 447 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: that's when you know guys know how to play the game, 448 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: and the guys are being taught well and they're schooled 449 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: and they take a really strong interest in It's why 450 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 3: I loved what I did in Boston because I thought 451 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 3: we had a great base running teams, had a great 452 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 3: partner in Brian Butterfield, who was an outstanding third base coach, 453 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: and we worked on that a lot. But you don't 454 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: have to be a like a fast base runner. To 455 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 3: be a great base runner, smart and quick, and you're 456 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 3: get to be smart and aware and know where the 457 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: ball ball is at all times and wanting to be 458 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 3: intelligent enough to want to take that extra ninety feet somehow. 459 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 5: Well, what was Chase least? Nickname? Come up? Come on, Todd, 460 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 5: what was namet bag? 461 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 3: That's the man? 462 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 5: Where was that nickname? 463 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 10: Born? 464 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: From the heads up from the heads up play of 465 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 3: throwing that guy out? No, no, no, no, from score? 466 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 3: That's right. 467 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 5: Score he scored on the ground ball from second base. Yeah, 468 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 5: the picture or something. 469 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 4: He scored from second in turner field and and Harry said, 470 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 4: Chase Sutley, you are the. 471 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 5: Man, and it stuck. That was a base running play. 472 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 5: That's right. 473 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: That was I mean, that was one of the all timers. 474 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: Man, I meant name, None of us remember nothing. Spot. 475 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 5: He was a I would call him a burner. 476 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: He was. 477 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 5: He was. He had good quick quickness, a good couple 478 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 5: first step, but he was he. 479 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: Was especially a steel percentage was great because he was 480 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 3: a smart steeler. You know. Dave Holland's great base runner. 481 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 3: Also Scott Roland. Scott Roland. Sometimes you put the invisible 482 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 3: cloak on every once in a while, but uh, but 483 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 3: generally a very very good base runner. And you know 484 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: that's that make that can make the difference. Hey, the 485 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: Kansas City Royals, it was in twenty fifteen they won 486 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 3: the World Series because they could run the bases. After that, 487 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: because you can run the bases. 488 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: Well, Phillies overall this season, you know, I don't I'll 489 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: be honest with you, I don't know much about this metric. 490 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 2: I haven't studied it too much. But stat Cast has 491 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: a metric called base running runs, which kind of incorporates 492 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: stolen bases, extra bases taken and whatnot. And the Phillies 493 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: are ranked six in baseball at at plus three. Uh, 494 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 2: Brewers lead baseball at plus ten. And then like you know, 495 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: you have teams at the bottom Pirates negative six, mariners 496 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: negative for Oriels negative three. So right now, you know, 497 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 2: the Phillies overall have been a pretty good base running team. 498 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: Not perfect, but you know they have been they have 499 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: been pretty good. 500 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 4: Well, it's it's all. It's just a it's a tribute 501 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 4: to Slide and Billy Hamilton. 502 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: That's right, Slide and Billy Hamilton. He started it all, Jim. 503 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a mindset. It really is, and it's an 504 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: important part of the game that gets grossly overlooked. But hey, 505 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 3: how do you score runs by running the bases? Absolutely, 506 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: we don't score run if you don't run the bases. Problem, 507 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 3: You got to get around the. 508 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 5: Home puts the pressure on the defense efficiently. 509 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: You got a chance to win some games. 510 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 2: So, Reuben, what should have happened on Tuesday night? Max 511 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: Kepler slides into third base, the ball gets away, and 512 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 2: Dusty's saying, go, go, go, go go, And I guess, 513 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: you know, Max just lost track of the ball. What 514 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, I guess you should have gotten up 515 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: and run home and scored maybe on that play. But 516 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 2: but what should the base and have been doing? Could 517 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: Dusty have done been doing anything different? Dusty seemed to 518 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: be doing the right thing, and. 519 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: A lot of things to unpack. The pitcher didn't back up, 520 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 3: the left fielder didn't back up to play, a lot 521 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 3: of fundamental things that didn't really work that well. But 522 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 3: I think what happened with Kepler he went in. I 523 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: think he went in her head first. 524 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: He went first. 525 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 12: I thought he went he popped up and called time 526 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 12: out when he picked up his head. I think that 527 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 12: he thought that the guy was had the ball was 528 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 12: tagging it, and he did not pick up where Dusty 529 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 12: was going. 530 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: Hey go, he just didn't pick him up because I 531 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: think he thought that he was the tag was still 532 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: on him and the ball was handled. 533 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 5: But he immediately raised his hand and asked for time out. 534 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 3: So I didn't see I didn't see that part. 535 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, so he got a big hit in that game. 536 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: He did get a big hit. 537 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 3: I mean, but that's a big play. I mean, had 538 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: he been able to pick up I be able to 539 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 3: pick up Dusty, he scores there. I mean that that 540 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: would have been a big play too. 541 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, guys. 542 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: Shive into Sports is back with us, and we're we 543 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: announced last week that they're gonna be giving like a 544 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: hat once a week to one of our viewers listeners. 545 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: And here we go, Here we go. 546 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 2: If you're watching us on YouTube, look at that hat 547 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: right there. 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Last week 556 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: we gave away a nineteen twenty five twenty eight two 557 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: tone Phillies cap and the winner was Mike Carnes of Philadelphia. 558 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: That not Mike karn Mike Carnes, So congratulation to Mike 559 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: Carnes uh for winning the. 560 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: Hat last week. 561 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: And you know the hat was nineteen thirty eight. I 562 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: didn't even I guess I kind of knew this, did 563 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: you guys know this? The Phillies in nineteen thirty eight 564 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: actually wore blue and yellow uniforms. 565 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, one year for one year. 566 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: Is that one of the reasons why the city connected blue. 567 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 5: Well, it's kind of. 568 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: It's kind of like tangentially related. Like, so nineteen thirty 569 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: is the three hundredth anniversary the founding of Philadelphia, you 570 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: know new Yeah, the city's city's flag is blue and 571 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 2: yellow because of the flag of Sweden for sellers of Swedish, 572 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: So you know, city connect tied. 573 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 10: End of the City FLA question about the backslack the 574 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 10: slash tps. 575 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 3: Is that Todd pod show or is that a Philly show? 576 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 2: That is the Philly showy? 577 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: But what if it helps? 578 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: Do you remember it? 579 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 4: Just speaking of speaking of Sweden, team USA won the 580 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 4: World Championships in Stockholm this week. Hats off to them 581 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: in in the hockey in the World Championships. 582 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 3: Nice there we go us watch, James. 583 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 5: I watched. 584 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 4: I watched the championship game. They beat the Swiss in overtime. 585 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: Were you watching it while you were typing away about Harper's. 586 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 5: No, it was before I know. 587 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: I know you can you know, do two things, two, three, 588 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 3: four things at one time? Yeah? Your crap spread out 589 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: all over the place. Oh my god, it's so funny. 590 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 2: But you know, so like I was looking at I 591 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: was looking at this hat. I was thinking about this hat, 592 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: and I started goin and guys start going like the 593 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: down to the down the hole there in nineteen thirty eight, 594 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: you guys have heard of this guy, Hugh m'kay Do 595 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: you remember you remember this? 596 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 3: Oh? I remember Hugh okay? 597 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: Well was his nickname. 598 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: Money Bagswey Dewey lily u me Dewey. 599 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: His nickname was losing pitcher LP yeah, Q, losing pitcher maulk. 600 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: He lost a league worse twenty games that season, ten 601 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 2: and twenty four point six one year. 602 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 1: Right, But here's the funny part. He actually got an 603 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: MVP vote. 604 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 3: Somebody gave him. Somebody gave this guy an MVP vote. 605 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: He went ten to twenty for the forty five and 606 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: one hundred and one Philly So, not being sarcastic, yeah, 607 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: that key vote. 608 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he got an MB. He finished like twenty ninth 609 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: for MB. 610 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: Figure that he was helping another team weak to tight. 611 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 5: That man should have his card revoked. 612 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the guy, if he's still around, that 613 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 2: didn't vote for Jeter for the Hall of Fame first. 614 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, and each row wasn't there a guy to vote 615 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 5: for each row too? Yeah? 616 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: I think so? 617 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 7: Right? 618 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, eachiro wasn't unanimous. Yeah, I mean it's that whole 619 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: We can get the whole. Spent a whole show on that. 620 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: It's what what are you guys doing? I'm going to 621 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: let all you guys in there. 622 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 4: Don't want me in with that guy brush, So. 623 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: Anyway if you want to, I'm gonna I'm want to 624 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: show that hat. I want to show that hat again, 625 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: because that hat is sweet. 626 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that had is that had? That had is very cool. 627 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 5: So what does that guy look like? He looks like somebody? 628 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: Well have to find out. 629 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: So go to Shive sports dot com backslash t p 630 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: s and you can win that hat. 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Visit their four locations around Philly or 633 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: online at shibe sports dot com. 634 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: Guys, we. 635 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: Got a doubleheader to watch on Thursday against the Braves, 636 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: split nights, Ruben, Well, how do you keep your keep 637 00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: yourself caffeinated? 638 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: What do you got going on over thereinated? 639 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: And then Friday we got. 640 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: In the jar. 641 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Friday, We've got a very good episode. 642 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: I got a special guest on Friday. 643 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 5: That's gonna be a good one. 644 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 645 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 5: A little teas. Little tea's uh not a big teas. 646 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 5: Go for it, all right, I'm gonna give you a 647 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 5: little teas hang out one seven. Come on, No, that's 648 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 5: not good. 649 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 3: That works? 650 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: That works? 651 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 5: What you got here? What you got? 652 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. 653 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: I was going to drop a nickname, but I would, 654 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: I would, It would give it away. Big fella that 655 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: gives it away. 656 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 3: That's okay. We got good we got good ones coming up, 657 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: and it was good stuff. 658 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was good. 659 00:33:59,120 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 3: It was good. 660 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: So make sure you tune in on Friday for our 661 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: final episode of the week. So guys enjoy the doubleheader today. 662 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 5: Smell a Little Boys, Smell and James. 663 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 664 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 2: Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and 665 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. If you like us, give 666 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: us a review, Follow us on Instagram, TikTok x, Facebook, 667 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 2: and threads. 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