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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast part of the Volume

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Speaker 1: and Podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: I am Chad Millman of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: Lots of conversations to have about life and the NFL. Today,

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Speaker 1: let's welcome in my co host, my companion, Michael Padre,

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Speaker 1: my BFF professional better Simon Hunter.

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Speaker 3: Heato.

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Speaker 4: So I'm in Chad. How are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Dude?

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Speaker 1: You and I could not be on more opposite ends

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Speaker 1: of the spectrum of life. What I thought about multiple

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Speaker 1: times this past weekend when you were sending us a

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Speaker 1: picture of your whole crew which did not need to

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Speaker 1: make much of an effort to look exactly like Fred

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Speaker 1: Durst from Limp Biscuit at your bachelor party this weekend,

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Speaker 1: while I was managing so much family stuff and the

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Speaker 1: end of having kids at home, please tell me, please

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Speaker 1: give me like the highlight of something fun.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there was a lot of I mean, they're

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Speaker 5: just it was just stupid as shit. I mean from

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Speaker 5: the get gostupid. I literally get there and one of

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Speaker 5: the guys I'm staying with his car is getting about

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Speaker 5: to get towed like the literally the truck is backing

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Speaker 5: up the tote and I had to tell the guy, hey,

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Speaker 5: that's my car, because I saw the kid had Delaware

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Speaker 5: Rugby stickers on the back of it. So it was

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Speaker 5: a bunch of you Dell rugby kids ten years later

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Speaker 5: in Dewey Beach, so they.

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Speaker 4: Were all reliving their glory days and it.

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Speaker 5: Was Chad's old the picture. It was like thirty guys,

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Speaker 5: all different walks of life, all real characters, but they're

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Speaker 5: all connected through one person.

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Speaker 4: Obviously that's what a bachelor party is. So it was

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Speaker 4: like his childhood buddies, his college buddies.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, my first time really doing Dewey Beach. The

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Speaker 5: bar scene's the best way I can describe. Again, I'm

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Speaker 5: old now, so like there's milts, which are people my age,

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Speaker 5: and then above and then like young twenty year old

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Speaker 5: who didn't know who Fred Durst was and was like,

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Speaker 5: why are thirty you all dressed so weird? All these

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Speaker 5: guys run up to one bar all over. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'd say the funniest memory was again I'm an old man.

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Speaker 5: I go to bed early, and I'm woking up probably

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Speaker 5: every half hour because people are coming back.

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Speaker 4: So again I'm a light sleeper.

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Speaker 5: At four four thirty in the morning, it sounds like

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Speaker 5: someone just got thrown through a wall in the apartment

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Speaker 5: above me. Like, so we run out the bottom and

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Speaker 5: the top part of the apartment and all you hear

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Speaker 5: is just ship breaking, like insanity. And again I went

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Speaker 5: checked the kitchen make sure no one through the floor,

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Speaker 5: because that's how loud it was. We wake up the

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Speaker 5: next morning. I looked like a bomb went off upstairs.

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Speaker 5: It was just three guys fighting. Yeah, just again, not

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Speaker 5: fighting like you think, like, just guys being guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, resumes pretending they're in a hockey fight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's suplex the guy and the guy could

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Speaker 5: barely walk and it's like, you guys are all in

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Speaker 5: your thirties, what's going on? So uh yeah, what exactly

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Speaker 5: you would think it would go with the rugby guys

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Speaker 5: from U Dell at Dewey Beach ten years later.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it was a great time. It was a

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Speaker 4: great crew, really funny group.

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Speaker 2: Ah Like yeah, it sounds amazing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it was like I can't keep up. I like,

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Speaker 5: even with them, I can't keep up. But you forget

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Speaker 5: about the old days, right, You just go to the beach.

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Speaker 5: You start drinking at eleven am, and you drink all day,

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Speaker 5: you eat all day, go out to bars.

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Speaker 4: And restaurants all day, all night, and it's just like,

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Speaker 4: damn man, those were the good days. No worries. You're

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Speaker 4: just boozing and eating and it's warm and sunny out.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I enjoyed it. But like I said, the

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Speaker 5: whole time we just talked football. It's like it's just

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Speaker 5: on the tip of everyone's tongue. So I was like

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Speaker 5: enjoying it. In the back of mind the whole time,

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Speaker 5: I'm just like, can I watch this Browns game on

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Speaker 5: my phone in this bar right now and not be

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Speaker 5: judged because I just want to watch standards. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: it was fun going out with everyone, but also always

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Speaker 5: football chat football.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the last time I really did what

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Speaker 1: at eleven am and just going all night was spring

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Speaker 1: break my senior year of college, when we are maybe

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Speaker 1: my junior year of college and my sophomore year of college,

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Speaker 1: when we went to Panama City, Florida, and there were

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Speaker 1: like fifteen of us.

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Speaker 5: Your Girl's Gone Wild video. I have to now go

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Speaker 5: through my collections if I can see Chad.

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Speaker 1: We like drove from Bloomington, Indiana to Panama City. We

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Speaker 1: started eating and drinking so early. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: was hungry or sober for six days. Yeah I gained

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Speaker 1: on that trip. You know what I look like?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I gained thirteen pounds.

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Speaker 5: Because you probably didn't go to the bathroom once. That's

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Speaker 5: how funny your bals got.

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Speaker 1: I had a picture of me from that trip, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, my face looked like a basketball.

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Speaker 5: I can't even picture of fat Chad. That's how I'll

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Speaker 5: go to shape you are. I came to visualized you

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Speaker 5: see it.

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Speaker 2: That was the last time.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, I am going through the throes of emotion that

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Speaker 1: the two, and we like have been doing stuff and

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Speaker 1: I'm realizing, holy shit, we're sixteen days away from this now.

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Speaker 1: Last week we went to the Red Sox game. He

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Speaker 1: the last one, you know, before he goes to college.

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Speaker 1: We're driving up to the game. I'm like in tears

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Speaker 1: four or five different times recognizing this, he never looks

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Speaker 2: It's fine.

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Speaker 1: This weekend, I made him watch the Bear's preseason game

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Speaker 1: out of the house and go to the gym. I'm like, guy,

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Speaker 1: first half, just sit with me. We're gonna do it

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Speaker 1: like I'm envisioning. So my texting him during the Bears

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Speaker 2: Stop, like we were watching the Cubs a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I'm like last night, I'm like, so, how am I

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Speaker 1: gonna do this when he's not sitting next to me.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know how I'm gonna function.

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Speaker 1: And you know how last week, like I told you,

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Speaker 1: my wife actually asked me about points spreads. This week

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Speaker 1: she came downstairs in an old school favorite T shirt

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Speaker 1: And then I realized why she's doing it. She's not

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Speaker 1: the only one left.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: It's me and the dog. And right now the dog

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Speaker 1: is on my side. I am totally the dog's person.

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Speaker 1: So like my wife is realizing, oh no, she's going

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Speaker 1: to be home alone with us. I better start showing

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Speaker 1: my husband I like him again after twenty two years

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Speaker 1: of having kids in the house. That's where it's coming from.

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Speaker 4: Melbourn, hold on one of the biggest story that or

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Speaker 4: she's about to get another dog. You don't even know it.

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Speaker 2: It's entirely possible.

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Speaker 4: That is possible, by the way, all right.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned football today as our annual Division by division

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Speaker 1: NFL preview episode on the AFC East, home of the

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Speaker 1: league's MVP Josh Allen, its most bettable coach and Mike Vrabel,

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Speaker 1: its most disgruntled wide receiver in Tyreek Hill, the franchise

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Speaker 1: with the whiniest fan base, the New York.

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Speaker 2: Jets, at the request.

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Speaker 1: Of longtime listener Mike Schiffman, at least, I think.

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Speaker 2: I think that's how you say his name. I'm kidding.

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Speaker 1: I'm adding which divisions the AFC East plays both in

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Speaker 1: its own conference and in the NFC. The AFC East

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Speaker 1: plays this year, the NFC South and the AFC North. Simon,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna start with the Buffalo Bills Division minus two,

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Speaker 1: seventy five Conference plus three twenty five Super Bowl plus

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Speaker 1: seven hundred win total eleven and a half. There is

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Speaker 1: no division that has a bigger disparity between the odds

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Speaker 1: on favorite and anyone else in the division. You said

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Speaker 1: this last week you love the Bills. I will say

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Speaker 1: I went through the schedule to find twelve wins. They

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Speaker 1: open with Baltimore, then they have the Jets, Dolphins, Saints, Patriots, Falcons, Panthers.

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Speaker 1: So they obviously get the Jets, Miami and the Patriots

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Speaker 1: two times each, plus they have the Browns. I might

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Speaker 1: be inclined to wait until after six or seven weeks

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Speaker 1: and then see how their season win total is and

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Speaker 1: maybe try and bet it then before I dive in

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 4: Are you a non believer, Chad? Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not a non believer, but.

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Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen last year obviously had the best

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Speaker 1: year he's ever had, and I think there were some

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Speaker 2: And I remember watching last year, how.

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Speaker 1: Many times did his guys get open and then get

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Speaker 1: in their direction. That's as big a factor as anything.

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Speaker 1: So and I don't don't. I just don't know if

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Speaker 1: their defense is good enough yet, Like and so, last

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Speaker 1: year to me was as good as they could possibly be.

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Speaker 1: Can they be better? They can be one of the

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Speaker 1: two three best teams in the AFC, but is that

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm not like all in yet.

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Speaker 4: I'm shocked.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, of all the teams that are safe,

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Speaker 4: That's why the odds are what they are.

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Speaker 5: Professionals came in and hit this as soon as they

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Speaker 5: opened it, and it was really.

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Speaker 4: Based off the guess of what the schedule would be.

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Speaker 5: And then once the schedule came out, this number really

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Speaker 5: moved up because it kind of laid out perfect for them.

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Speaker 4: They do have a very easy schedule. So that's why

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't wait.

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Speaker 5: If I'm gonna bet this, Like, if I'm betting their

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Speaker 5: win total, I'll take it eleven and a half, No problem.

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Speaker 4: Gives the shit.

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Speaker 6: It's like pizza baby, It's good no matter, there's the

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Speaker 6: shout yeah, shouting out, it's a good time, you know

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Speaker 6: what I mean, rubbing up against each other, trying to

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Speaker 6: make it honest.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 5: Their divisional lodge is high. So we've talked about like

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Speaker 5: I put them in parlays. But I don't know if

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Speaker 5: you're getting lost a little bit, but we I definitely

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Speaker 5: got lost in it last year where I took josh

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Speaker 5: Allen's talent for granted. And I can't believe I even

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Speaker 5: thought the Jets or anyone else in the division had

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone has a chance.

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Speaker 4: I know that.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like overall this is this is lined

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Speaker 5: And Josh Allen's so good that he makes me break

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Speaker 5: Like we've seen it time and time again. The same organizations.

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Speaker 5: But again, there's too much risk for me with that

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Speaker 5: you can tell, Chad, I'm very high on this team,

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Speaker 4: The biggest Achilles heel when you drive.

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Speaker 5: Through the numbers, and this this organization is their drafting

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Speaker 5: Allen And they have not. They've not shown up in

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Speaker 5: And you know last year, I like I said, I

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Speaker 4: So that that's the question. Chat like you have it.

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Speaker 4: It's the defense.

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Speaker 1: But also we talked about the young talent they're adding

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Speaker 4: He was hurt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's been hurt NonStop.

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Speaker 5: But when he comes to the field, like even the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: he's so special, Like even in that Ravens game, he

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Speaker 5: he is special. I get you're coming from he's older

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Speaker 5: That's why they're telling you that because there are other

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Speaker 4: That aren't hiusehold names. That's why they're not talking about it.

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Speaker 5: But to me, again, I get where you're coming from

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Speaker 4: But I agree, the question for me is just going

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Speaker 5: Like they they've been drafting secondary, they've been spending money

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Speaker 4: Can can they cover?

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Speaker 5: Because I still can't believe Mahomes and that that Chiefs

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Speaker 4: In that playoff game.

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Speaker 5: That was not I think that might have been the

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Speaker 5: first time all year they put over thirty points, right,

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Speaker 4: So that's that's the acchilles of this team.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's why I get your skepticism when

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Speaker 5: blind to it all summer. I'm just like, man, this

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Speaker 5: is he's twenty nine, Josh Allen whatever, this is his

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Speaker 5: is he really about to go zero for five against

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Speaker 5: Like when you dive into the stats, it doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 5: It's an anomaly. He's just so talented, he's so good,

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Speaker 5: And it's like, if you're a Betty Mant Chad, eventually

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Speaker 4: Brother.

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Speaker 5: So that's why I'm hitting it. You know, super Bowls

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Speaker 5: a better number. But I do matchups, so like I've

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Speaker 2: You know, I do the matchups.

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Speaker 1: I've already I actually did the Bills and the Niners

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Speaker 2: I just feel like I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not seeing any value in anything Betting the Bills outright

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Speaker 1: eleven and a half. I guess you could take it,

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Speaker 1: but it just feels like last year was so elite

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Speaker 1: she was awesome, and it just made me excited for

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Speaker 5: She's the ultimate catch, and you know, Josh like, that's

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Speaker 5: why I love about it though, Like he's hype dives,

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Speaker 4: It's like they just I can't get over how they

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Speaker 5: You got you got one of a comment with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 5: He is he is superman, sotty, pretty sweet.

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Speaker 1: I just think it'd be great if next year Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen is coming off of super Bowl win and Hailey

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Speaker 1: Steinfeld is walking the red carpet with him at the Oscars.

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be amazing, all right, Matt Mitchell. I

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Speaker 1: because he's so aligned with the Bills and defined by

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you making me a part of this.

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Speaker 2: Will you offer any insight as a fan?

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, I am consumed with the exact same

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Speaker 3: as I have been. I think Simon nailed it perfectly.

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Speaker 3: I do think if you want to get involved in

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Speaker 3: asinine because it always feels like it's a billion to

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Speaker 3: a conspiracy theorist, the league turning its eye to Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: They'll want them to be successful and make money in

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Speaker 2: No, it's good for the script. I agree with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: New England Patriots.

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Speaker 1: This is what's interesting, huge trendy team getting a trend

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Speaker 4: Ms of bursting at the moment from Melbourne.

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Speaker 1: Everyone loves this team. You can see it in the numbers.

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Speaker 1: For example, their conference styles are thirty five to one.

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Speaker 1: There's Super Bowl odds are seventy five to one. Their

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Speaker 1: So we know where the money's going. We know what

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Speaker 1: my god, I just totally forgot who they. I think

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Speaker 1: they played the Commanders the Patriots. They're starting with their

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Speaker 2: So hooray the Patriots are back.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be a team that, like you just said,

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Speaker 4: Chad of the hype. You know, it's all.

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Speaker 5: It's all debatable, but I think we both look at

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Speaker 5: it all comes back to Rabel, right. I think we're

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Speaker 5: When they have they've addressed the offensive line, it should

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00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 5: be so much improved that you know, if Diggs just

441
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 5: gets back to seventy five percent is what he was

442
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 5: before the knee injury, that's.

443
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 4: A huge upgrade for them. The wires super position, this

444
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 4: is someone that can run.

445
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 5: Routes like he is really really crisp, but at running routes,

446
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 5: that's what Digs has always been so talented at. So,

447
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 5: you know, Drake May you know people people have taken

448
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,360
Speaker 5: positions on them. We've had people on the show that

449
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 5: you know, talked about him being one of the best

450
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 5: quarterbacks they thought coming out in that group, and I've

451
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 5: just I've never seen it. And even last year he

452
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 5: had moments of that.

453
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 4: He popped.

454
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 5: But it's like, you know, we all know he has

455
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 5: the talent that have throat beat deep throws downfield, or

456
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 5: he can run the ball, and that's that.

457
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 4: Was never the question with him.

458
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 5: The question with him was being consistent, and that was

459
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 5: the problem with him coming out and last year was

460
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 5: kind of a throwaway because you know, this year is

461
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 5: gonna have Rabel McDaniel's coaching them up.

462
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 4: That's a huge, huge upgrade than what he had last year.

463
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 5: I think people might be a year early on him

464
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 5: because of what they're projecting, because people are like, well,

465
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 5: they have an easy schedule. Every fan base, you talk

466
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 5: to any fan base outside of New England, you're you're

467
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 5: the easy team on their schedule in New England, Like

468
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 5: you're talking about everyone being you have an easy schedules here.

469
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 5: When people look at their schedule and break it down No.

470
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 5: Thirty one, other teams are saying, that's a win against you, guys.

471
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone's giving a loss to the Patriots.

472
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 5: So they're they're an interesting team where it's like I

473
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 5: get what the bookmakers they're doing. They're taking a position

474
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 5: on them and their model is projecting out this is

475
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 5: a really talented team.

476
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 4: I think it's a year early.

477
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 5: Like my model literally has them right next to Miami basically.

478
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 5: And you just talked about the difference like seven to

479
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 5: one Miami to win this division.

480
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 4: They're five to one.

481
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 5: That's a big that's a big difference. So yeah, I

482
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 5: like this Patriots team a lot. I love the pieces there,

483
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 5: but it's like, oh, I don't what is what is

484
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 5: the ceiling? It's they put them at seven and a

485
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 5: half wins. Are you taking their under? I'm not taking

486
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 5: their under because there's so many variables. They could easily

487
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 5: go over this with Rabel and Drake May.

488
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 4: Because it sucks to lose. It fucking sucks losing awful.

489
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 4: That's why I want to win.

490
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Speaker 1: Dude, I did the math, all right, I did the

491
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: math because a I've asked this before, But give me

492
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: your opinion on the number of wins you think Mike

493
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: Vrabel can get for this team because of his coaching.

494
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: Remember Mike Rabel managing the clock, managing the game overall, strategically,

495
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: understand the rules. Doesn't have any peers in the NFL

496
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: right now. The only one was Belichick, and he was

497
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: out maneuvering Belichick the last few times they played against

498
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: each other, So I have an opinion on how many

499
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: games I think he can win for them.

500
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: How many do you think? How many do you think

501
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 2: he can win for them?

502
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think last time I said two, and I

503
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 4: think you had at two and a half, right, Yeah,

504
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 4: something like that.

505
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I set the line at two and a half.

506
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: I think it can be as many as three. There's

507
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: a couple factors for me that make me like this

508
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: over and it's actually not the Drake May hype. I

509
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: think that the offensive line will be improved. I think

510
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: it's a generally better coach team. I'm discounting Stefan Diggs.

511
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: You just don't know. So their skill positions haven't really

512
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: improved very much. But I think their defensive line will

513
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 1: be better. They got Milton Williams, Christian Barmore will be back.

514
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: I like their defensive back Fiel of the Lot Christian

515
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: Gonzales continuing to improve as a physical, lockdown corner. They

516
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: have really good offensive backs. But like you just said,

517
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: it's the schedule.

518
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: I count.

519
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: I count six fifty to fifty games Raiders, Steelers.

520
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: Panthers, Dolphins twice.

521
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: I count six games that they should win Giants, Jets

522
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: two times, Browns, Titans, Saints.

523
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 5: So but this is my point, they're honestly not that

524
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 5: much better than those teams. So that's gonna be the

525
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 5: thing you need. You're gonna need Drake Man to take

526
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 5: that step.

527
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 4: Like of course, that's the margin.

528
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 5: With football is that you need you need the quarterback

529
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 5: to show it and be consistent. Where we all know

530
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 5: he has talent, but talent doesn't mean shit in the NFL.

531
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 5: Everybody has talent, So can he be consistent with the

532
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 5: talent that he has is the biggest question. And yeah,

533
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 5: for me, I wanted to take the over coming into this.

534
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 5: I mean, we talked about them months ago where I

535
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 5: felt they were the best value bet.

536
00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 4: For this division.

537
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 5: I still think that's true in some sense, even though

538
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 5: it's come down a little bit. It's like if Drake

539
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 5: make takes that next step and Josh Allen eventually takes

540
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 5: the wrong hit, like he's such a physical quarterback, you know,

541
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 5: nothing lasts forever. Yeah, this would be their front runner

542
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 5: to me. So then all of a sudden, me and

543
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 5: you have amazing odds I'm most likely their front runner

544
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 5: team just because the hype is so high, Like you

545
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 5: said with this new England team and.

546
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 4: The schedule breaks that way. So I get it.

547
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 5: I get why guys are taking a position on them.

548
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 5: I just I can't find it like right now, like

549
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 5: we already talked about it, Like I was confident on

550
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 5: the Bills over eleven and a half, This one I

551
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 5: wanted to be confident on like I had confident. Like again,

552
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 5: my model has an eight and a half. That's a

553
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 5: full game up, So I would bet this if you

554
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 5: want to take the over here. I'm just I'm so

555
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 5: nervous about Drake May. I haven't seen enough even in

556
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 5: this training camp. I haven't read enough of him being

557
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 5: consistent where it's like I want to see them, you know,

558
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 5: a week out before the season before I put any

559
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 5: money to this Patriots team. I really need more time,

560
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 5: more info from the be writers, just because right now

561
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 5: it's just too much happiness and excite me with the

562
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 5: Patriots up there, Like everything just seems like such flowers

563
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 5: and bullshit. Able Like had some comment to some guy

564
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 5: in they meet and everyone went ape shit. They're like,

565
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 5: this is what we needed, this is what we miss

566
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 5: and it's like, yeah, I get it. We all love Rabel,

567
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 5: but we need to see what his actual game plan

568
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 5: will be on the field. So uh yeah, good start

569
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 5: to it, right. They blew that, like you said, they

570
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 5: blew out the Commanders. Good defense, discipline, that's what that

571
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 5: organization needs. So the right start for the preseason. But yeah,

572
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 5: I need to see what's going on with Drake Main

573
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 5: these next you know, three weeks to really have a

574
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 5: confident bet on them.

575
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I lean over, but it is not even close

576
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: to my favorite bet in the division. Have we gone

577
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: anywhere near any of your favorite bets in the division

578
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: so far?

579
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: I just want to make sure it wills.

580
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 5: I love Like we just talked about the bill super

581
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 5: Bowl bets against Super Bowl matchups and they're over. I

582
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 5: love low and a half, Like, okay, I get them

583
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 5: at thirteen wins, and like, as a huge that's my

584
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 5: model as a human. I'm just like I'm the opposite

585
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 5: of you. I look at their schedule, I'm like, where

586
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 5: do they lose? Like they're just they are just so

587
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 5: much better than some man of these other teams because

588
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 5: the style they play with Joe Brady and the ball

589
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 5: control of that running style they have on offense.

590
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 4: Now, so yeah, I told you, I'm drinking too much

591
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: of the kool aid.

592
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 5: So I was happy to hear you skeptical because I

593
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 5: need a little bit of pull back. I've talked to

594
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 5: other pros who pulled back a little bit because of

595
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 5: that defense. But I'm also just like, man, it's it's

596
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 5: so hard to pull back Josh Allen at this this

597
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 5: age and this prime. It's just we saw it last year,

598
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 5: Like you said, that was his best season ever. He

599
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 5: just has gotten better every year, and it's like, what

600
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 5: is this. Are we about to see the next step

601
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 5: where he literally has one to two turnovers this upcoming season.

602
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's gonna be the game changer for him.

603
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 5: Is just if he cannot fumble or throw those stupid

604
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 5: picks in the red zone, which we saw last year,

605
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 5: he became MVP. So that's that's the question with them

606
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 5: and with this team here, it's all about Drake May.

607
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 5: Like I don't think neither.

608
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 4: You were either high on him or low on him.

609
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 4: We're just no opinion. He didn't showing.

610
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:03,800
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611
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Speaker 1: All right, Miami, As I said, Division seven to one,

627
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: Conference thirty five to one, Super Bowl seventy five to

628
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: one win total seven and a half. I'm telling you, man,

629
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: if Tua is healthy, this is a competitive team, no

630
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: matter how bad their defense is. Every time you look

631
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: at the stats for the past few years when he

632
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: is playing a full season, I know we don't like

633
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: him as a quarterback. I know we would never put

634
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: him in a top ten, but he is a top

635
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: ten quarterback across every single metric. Superficial stats, Advanced metrics,

636
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: anything you look at because of who he is, because

637
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: of the system he plays in. He is just too

638
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: good in this offense.

639
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: He is too accurate.

640
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: The offense is too hard to stop on short slants

641
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: and quick throws in short yardage situation. So everyone is

642
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: down on them, which screams to me, give me the

643
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: over seven and a half.

644
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 4: I get it, I get it.

645
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 5: I know some people that have taken positions on this

646
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 5: because of what you've just talked about. This team is

647
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 5: different with two, and you know that's that's the question

648
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 5: here is can you stay healthy? And I don't think

649
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,239
Speaker 5: he can chad the guys. He just doesn't know how to

650
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 5: take these hits. And even though you know he might

651
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 5: dodge the head injuries and it might be something else,

652
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 5: he just seems brittle.

653
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: And you know that one year.

654
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 5: I think we both get sucked into it because they

655
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 5: were so incredibly dominant that one year. And I hate

656
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 5: everything about this team. You probably are right, like maybe

657
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 5: I'm getting sucked into it, but like the two and noise,

658
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 5: like everyone's finally getting tired of the McDaniels.

659
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 4: Bullshit, Like why are we all here? What is death?

660
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: Is?

661
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: This? Death is just are we in a black hole.

662
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 5: It's like, dude, you're a fucking football coach man, Like,

663
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 5: if you're winning, it's funny when you're just one and

664
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 5: done every year and you may be back through into

665
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 5: the playoffs and you get your asses smoked by a

666
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 5: real contender. It's just it gets old pretty quick. And

667
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 5: that's my fear with them is up their windows legit closed.

668
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 5: And you know they might have, you know, one of

669
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 5: the best front sevens in defense, but the back end

670
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 5: is a fercious, horrible, horrible secondary and they've already had

671
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 5: a couple injuries in the preseason to that secondary. So

672
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 5: it's I'm one of those people. I'm with the general public.

673
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 5: I'm just so down on this team. But once again,

674
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 5: they're like the Patriots. I'm not touching the win tot

675
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 5: because of the quarterback, where if he is healthy like

676
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 5: you're talking about, they'll get the ten wins.

677
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: Like Tua.

678
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 5: He puts up the numbers, and they have a defense

679
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 5: that can steal them some games at certain spots.

680
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: So again, I.

681
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 5: Could see it happen, like I could see them being

682
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 5: better than the Patriots and obviously better than the Jets

683
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 5: because they have a legit quarterback that we've seen do

684
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 5: it and in all sences the system that you know

685
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 5: there is one of the best running styles in all football.

686
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 5: Like as much as I like to give that coach,

687
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 5: he knows how to scheme it up like they are great.

688
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: I mean not in the red zone.

689
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 5: I know, we all know they're like the thirty second

690
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 5: or thirty first team to come are running the red zone,

691
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 5: but everywhere else they're really talented. So you know, between

692
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 5: a chan Waddle and Tyreek, if Tyreek gets head of

693
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 5: as asked, that's that's a really great offense when it's

694
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 5: ran by Tuus. So I get why you love it.

695
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: Chat.

696
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna not gonna show in your bet. I'm

697
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 5: just I'm stuck on it where it's like my model

698
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 5: is like you, it hasn't met nine wins, And usually

699
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 5: I would slam that like a game and a half.

700
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 5: I want to be all over that, but I'm just

701
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 5: so scared of Tua, like everything about him, Like I

702
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 5: know he's got the weakend and I feel like he's

703
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 5: got a brittle body. It's just it's not the right

704
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 5: mix to me for betting these win totals with a

705
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 5: quarterback like that.

706
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: If he's healthy, they play the Jets twice, they play

707
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: the Browns, and they play the Saints. My supposition, my bet,

708
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, can they find four

709
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: other wins in thirteen games? So it's like you said,

710
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: the key the key component here is do you believe

711
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: to uh will.

712
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: Be healthy.

713
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: And you cannot stay healthy.

714
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: The key component for the Bills is do you believe

715
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: their defense can improve enough to help Josh Allen? When

716
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: it really matters. I tend to believe the Bills defense

717
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: cannot improve enough to help Josh Allen. You tend to

718
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: believe it can. I tend to believe to it can

719
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: be healthy. You tend to believe he can. And that

720
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 1: is the difference right now between our opinions on both

721
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: of these bets, in which we are basically fifty one

722
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: forty nine right and I'm leaning into a being healthy

723
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: because I don't think anyone wants to make this bet.

724
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 5: People have the like I told you, like the the

725
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 5: public is totally out and the media is toy.

726
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 4: But the wise guys, the wise guys are.

727
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 5: Taking position on them because they're like you, they think

728
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 5: it's been an undervalued team.

729
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 2: I'm a fucking wise guy.

730
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: I don't even need to know what you're talking about

731
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: and what you're hearing to know that the Dolphins with

732
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: everyone hitting on them, and what two his stats have

733
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: been when he's healthy to know over seven and a

734
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: half is the right side.

735
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 5: But told you the why guys are on all these

736
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 5: fucking teams like they like the Patriots too.

737
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 4: That's why. Yeah, we're about to get to this.

738
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: Guys don't know anything.

739
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: This is the team was talking about the Jets.

740
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the Jets.

741
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: Let's get to them as long as we can recognize

742
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: that I'm on the right side as the wise guys

743
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins, Jets.

744
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 4: Your gambler, who bets on the Jets? Who have you

745
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 4: not learned anything about.

746
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: Betting the Jets are gonna come back fourteen to one,

747
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: the win to win the division conference, seventy five to one,

748
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl two hundred to one win total five and

749
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: a half. So it's true. It's really tricky, right because

750
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of reason to be optimistic about

751
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: the Jets. And this is part bias and part thinking.

752
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: It's bias for me in terms of how I feel

753
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: about defensive stats when it comes to betting. I think

754
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: they're vitally important, and I oftentimes think that they are

755
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: undervalued in creating a point spread and in how bookmakers

756
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: look at them and how fans look at defensive stats,

757
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: especially things that the Jets have proven to be good.

758
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: At when they had good coaching.

759
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: They've got a dominant defensive tackle in Quinn Williams, they

760
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: have a potentially dominant corner in Saucegardner. There is always

761
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: sneaky upside from this defense. For me, it was a

762
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: very good defense when Robert Salo was coaching it, and

763
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: then it creatored I like what Aaron Glenn did with

764
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: the Lions when they had nobody because everybody was injured.

765
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: So those are the positives to me.

766
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to make a bet on anything

767
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: regarding this team because their offense is just so bad.

768
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 4: I'm I'm drinking the kool aid. I can't believe it.

769
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: And it was funny.

770
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: I was, dude.

771
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 5: I know, I've been trying to fight it off, but

772
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 5: I've been just buying so many shares all summer in

773
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 5: fantasy football of Justin Fields, and I needed to see

774
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 5: one minute of him in preseason running that touchdown to

775
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 5: be like, this is the vision. This is the vision

776
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 5: of the stupid ass team getting to eight wins, eight

777
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 5: and nine somehow with Aaron Glenn, because I do believe

778
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 5: in him as a coach man, Like that Detroit defense

779
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 5: was held the game held together with bubble gum and bullshit.

780
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 4: I don't know how they function.

781
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 5: That line's defense could not believe it. They were the

782
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 5: one seed, like he held it together. His coaching is

783
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 5: so good, like his schemes, his adjustments.

784
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 4: Again, you were talking about it. Maybe there was some

785
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: dude in.

786
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 5: The background that's giving him all this data. But Aaron

787
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 5: Glenn everything I'm reading.

788
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: I love the.

789
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 5: Way he talks to his team, how the guys talk

790
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 5: about him.

791
00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: You know, we'll see this.

792
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 5: But it's like, five and a half wins in this

793
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 5: division feels very, very dangerously low, Like this is should

794
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 5: be six and a half, seven and a half for

795
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 5: a team that, in my mind is no different than

796
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 5: that Patriots team or this Miami team, where it's like

797
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 5: if Justin Field's with all this potential, Like again, this guy,

798
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 5: I know, Bear fans don't want to hear it because

799
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: he was a loser and he just could not win

800
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 5: any of these games. But he was like a top three,

801
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 5: top four running quarterback in the league. Like his level

802
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 5: of athletic talent, that was never the question. The question

803
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 5: was can he become a pocket passer? And I feel

804
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 5: like we have our answer there. He is not a

805
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 5: pocket passer. So if they go into it being honest

806
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 5: with him and he's being honest with himself, this team

807
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 5: has an obsane amount of upside because what you just

808
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 5: talked about, Chad, you have the D line, you have

809
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 5: half of the field locked down. If Sauce can because

810
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 5: to me, Sauce fall off the cliff last year and

811
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 5: I don't know if that was him being you know,

812
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 5: off the field distract he just didn't care because no

813
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 5: one else in the team cared. But if you if

814
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 5: he can be what he was his first year in

815
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 5: the league and be a shutdown corner, that's a huge

816
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 5: deal for this defense, Like that's that can change the

817
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 5: whole identity because Aaron Glenz never had that type of talent.

818
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 5: I mean, again, they had some of the best safeties

819
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 5: on football in Detroit, and but they didn't really have

820
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 5: great cornerbacks. Like they had so many injuries across the board,

821
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 5: so yeah, I just I can't even believe it was

822
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 5: five and a half, and I hate that.

823
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: I loved it right away.

824
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 5: And I knew my model was gonna love it because

825
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 5: of what you just talked about it. Like, I'm so school,

826
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 5: I'm so skewed to defenses and the way the league

827
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 5: has gone with these running quarterbacks, like they just having

828
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 5: a guy that can get you a first down with

829
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 5: his legs on third or fourth down. It's become the

830
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 5: cheek coot. I mean, we're seeing it in this preseason chat.

831
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 5: We keep talking about these kickoffs overs are fourteen to two.

832
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 5: I believe in this preseason it's changed. The game has changed.

833
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 5: Starting at your own thirty five, start your own forty

834
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 5: has changed the game. And that's why Justin Fields, if

835
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 5: he can be true with himself and realize he's not

836
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 5: a pocket quarterback, they need to keep keep him either

837
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 5: moving outside the pocket or you know, doing these Reid options.

838
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 5: That's gonna be the key to success for this Jets team.

839
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 5: So yeah, they're They're a team I love because it's

840
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 5: going to be you know, five and a half. You're

841
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 5: never out of this bet. If you have two wins

842
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 5: with six weeks to go, you can lie to yourself

843
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 5: and be like this Jets team they can sneak they

844
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 5: can sneak out a couple wins here end the season.

845
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 5: Get me over this five and a half. So I'm

846
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 5: shocked on another one. It's like they're just they everything

847
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 5: about them, new coach, the new coach bump. Everyone's given

848
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 5: it to the Patriots, but no one's giving it to

849
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 5: this Jets team at all. I think that's interesting where

850
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 5: it's like Aaron Glenn Man, he's he's not that different

851
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 5: than Raverle in some aspects of his motivator of men.

852
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 5: But I get where you're coming from because we've seen

853
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 5: Brabel do it. We've never seen Aaron Glenn do it.

854
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly why, Hey, we haven't seen we haven't

855
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: seen Glenn do it as a head coach, like you

856
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: loved what I saw with the Lions, like you totally

857
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: lean into defense, usually leaning to defense, especially when I

858
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: think there's value in the win total. And I don't

859
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: think that's being accounted for. I think the bookmakers are

860
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 1: seeing the public and saying it's the Jets.

861
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 2: It's Justin Field's on his third team. He's a wash out.

862
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: He can't throw, and it's a whiny fan base and

863
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: everyone is thinking Aaron Rodgers is gone. This team can't

864
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: get out of its own way. They're gonna be losers, right.

865
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: So I totally think there's value on the five and

866
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: a half. I just didn't jump on it because Aaron

867
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: Glenn is a defensive coach. That's where I think he

868
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: will really put his stamp. I don't know what they're

869
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: gonna do offensively, and even if they do do well offensively,

870
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: Justin Fields as a running quarterback cannot finish a season.

871
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about Tua, right, it's the same

872
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: thing with Justin Fields.

873
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 2: Last year.

874
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: Justin Fields was great with the Steelers, but he didn't

875
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: finish with the Steelers.

876
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 4: And that was an injuries. That was Tomlin and I

877
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 4: promise he made a promise, Russell.

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Speaker 1: Wilson promise, but also a little bit of the Steelers

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Speaker 1: were winning.

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Speaker 4: But despite Justin Fields.

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Speaker 2: I know who you're coming from by Justin Fields.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, he wasn't hurting them either though, like he

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Speaker 4: went five and two or something.

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Speaker 1: We are we saying that the model for the Jets

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Speaker 1: now is what the Steelers did last year, only we

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Speaker 1: think it can extend over the course of a season.

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Speaker 5: At least to me, Pittsburgh was saying to him, don't

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Speaker 5: don't let us lose because of you. So they were

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Speaker 5: really pulling it back where Aaron Glenn's like apparently being

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00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 5: like all blown smoke up his ass, being like, you're

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Speaker 5: one of the top guys.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna release you. We're not going to try to

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Speaker 4: contain you.

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Speaker 5: We want you to be one of these guys that's

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Speaker 5: you know, slinging it, running around with it. So again,

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Speaker 5: I think they're totally from the viewpoint of they'd be happy.

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00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 4: The Jets.

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Speaker 5: I think if they went you know, three and fourteen,

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Speaker 5: but if they can if they can unlock something here

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00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 5: and justin fields, the right the game of a two

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00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 5: year deal, I believe if they can get to eight

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00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 5: nine wins, that's that's something to built on go head

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Speaker 5: into next year. So that's that's my hesitation here where

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Speaker 5: it's like I totally get where you're coming from, just

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00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 5: in fields and injuries and everything like that. It's just

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Speaker 5: when a new coach comes in you have a defense.

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Speaker 5: I usually I drink the kool aid on those type of.

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Speaker 2: Teams, all right.

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Speaker 1: Simon's favorite division bet is the Buffalo Bills over eleven

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Speaker 1: and a half. Mine is Miami over seven and a half.

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00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: He also likes the Jets over five and a half.

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Speaker 1: I probably could be convinced to join him on that enthusiastically,

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Speaker 1: but we're not going to jump in on the New

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Speaker 1: England Patriots. The Favorites will return with our next episode

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