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Speaker 1: we've reached our final destination. We're close to the checkered flag,

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Speaker 1: to to get metaphorical here. Today you're going to make

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Speaker 1: but before we do that. We're going to watch a

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Speaker 1: This is choosing sides. One, wow, wow, hey everyone, producer here. So,

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Speaker 1: as you may have guessed, this episode is going to

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Speaker 1: This is not the episode to start with. That said, okay,

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Speaker 1: you understand how numbers work, it's Mercedes. Yeah, third. I know,

423
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 1: I'm surprised at this too. When you first introduced me

424
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: to Mercedes, that was like no chance, but watching their action,

425
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: their team there, I was impressed. Hate their car color,

426
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: but they got their ship together that you can just tell.

427
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: It's just a well oiled machine, as you would expect,

428
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: and the professionalism of their racing team and drivers permeates.

429
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: And is there a reason why they're third from the

430
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: top instead of the top top? Probably be their car color,

431
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: the dumbest reason ever. I just don't like the color.

432
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: I don't, I'm not like I don't feel anything visceral

433
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 1: when I see it. At their car. That's fair. Okay.

434
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: So so who is the second place? Our first loser,

435
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: as they would say, Um number two. For me, this

436
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: was tricky one, but I'm going to go with my

437
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: gut and I'm gonna say Alfhatari, a red bull affiliated team.

438
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: How big of you. Well, that's kind of why I

439
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: like them, because I don't like Red Bull. All the

440
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: attention goes to Max and check O every time they

441
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: beat Red Bull. Every time, you know, Pierre has a

442
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: good race, it's kind of like an F for you

443
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: to red bull a little bit. I like that interesting

444
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: and interesting, almost inverse reason to like them. I do

445
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: like Pierre. I think it's a fun duo. They don't

446
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: seem to hate each other. That's nice. Um, and I'm

447
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: the youngest in my family. Four kids, John Christy, todd, Michael.

448
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: You don't think every time I have some small level

449
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: of success, I don't call all my siblings and say

450
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: take that, that's for having me sit in the car,

451
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: in the car seat, waiting while everyone else gets I

452
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: don't even know where we're going as a family, but

453
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm already strapped in. And that's why I'm passionate about them.

454
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: Alpha Torii has this young brother feeling vibe the energy.

455
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: You know, Oh look, it's a little red bulls brothers here.

456
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: You know that time everybody called me, Oh it's Costa's brother, me,

457
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: even though I am Costa Right, but they were thinking

458
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: of my older brother. So it's like. I like rooting

459
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: for the younger brother, the youngest sibling. You know, I

460
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: love when the little guy gets in there. So that's

461
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: my number two. And you know what my number one is?

462
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: You know what part of me almost wishes you're going

463
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: to come in here and be like Al Paine, but

464
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: I know that's not gonna happen. So who? Who is

465
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: your number one? After this long journey we have been on?

466
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: It goes back to where we start and it goes

467
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: back to where Michael started, in his bedroom as a

468
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: young boy, looking up at the wall because mom made

469
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: me go to bed and I would envision this beautiful

470
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: speed demon of machine, which was some kind of Ferrari

471
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: poster on the wall that my brother Todd probably got

472
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: somewhere and it's just always in my mind. Has always

473
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: been the epitome of cool, fast and and foreign, you know,

474
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: like non American. That's Ferrari. So I'm a sucker for it.

475
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: They got me and testament to their long term branding,

476
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: they're not changing names every two years and I like

477
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: their drivers a lot. Their drivers are freaking awesome. I

478
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: don't know what happened to their car this time. That

479
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: was really disappointed in that, but I just think it's

480
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: just it's it is very, very pleasing on the eye.

481
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: So are their drivers. Let's be honest. Come on, I

482
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of questions. You know, we have seen

483
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: Ferrari go from first race this excitement that they're going

484
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: to be a championship contender, this is their time, they're

485
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: back in business. With the Spanish Grand Prix, we start

486
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: to see those reliability issues released come through. And then

487
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: there's the season we've had. You know, we have at

488
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: one point an engine being on fire on the side

489
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: of a track. We've got the team at a pit

490
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: stop literally forgetting a tire for a driver. We've got

491
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: endless strategic calls that people don't understand. So why, after

492
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: kind of the mess that Ferrario season has turned into,

493
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: are you rooting for this team? It's just it's inside

494
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: of me, you know, Ferraris inside of me. I feel them,

495
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: I am attached to them emotionally. Why did their engine explode?

496
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: Because they run it so goddamn fast. Why did they

497
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: forget a tire? Because they burned through so many, because

498
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: they're going so fast. Why did the other bad thing happen?

499
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't know the logical answer but I know that

500
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: I laid in my bunk bed looking up at a

501
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: Ferrari poster, this core memory from your childhood so ingrained,

502
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: and I'm aware that it's childish, but all I can

503
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: be is me. All I can be is me, sports illustrated.

504
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: I heart media, Yohi, Lily Rob. That's all I can

505
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: be as me. And I like Ferrari. I like the

506
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: consonants in their word. I like the F it looks

507
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: fast to me. I like their colors, I like the poster.

508
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: It somehow makes me think of my brother as well.

509
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: You know, that's Ferrari. I'm a fan now. I much

510
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: like F one. We need a brief pit stop. We'll

511
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: be right back after the break. So before we get

512
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: to your top three, Michael, which we're all waiting with

513
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: bated breast here, let's let's kick it over to the

514
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: booth and hear what Yohi and rob think. After all

515
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: of this time of having to listen to us, do

516
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: we have to wow Michael? That? I mean, that was

517
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: hurtful after all we've been through. I just wanted to

518
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: share one thing. This actually has changed my thinking and now,

519
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: like I have a clear favorite driver and EST I think. Yeah,

520
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, he's just I think he's

521
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: given up the most to be on the grid. His

522
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: parents literally were like, we're gonna sell the house and

523
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: live in a trailer so that we can fund your career.

524
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: And imagine racing with that on your weight, like if

525
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: you don't win this F two or f three race now,

526
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: like all of the past three years, all of the

527
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: money we've put into it's all down the drain and

528
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna go back to being a mechanic with your dad.

529
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: And then he wins the race. So he knows what

530
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: pressure is in a much deeper level than any of

531
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: these guys and I think nobody's really noticing him. But

532
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: he keeps being in the points, he keeps he never crashes.

533
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: He's very rarely crashes or makes mistakes that bring him

534
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: out and at the end of the day, I think

535
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna you world champion one day. Okay, let it

536
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: be known, rob is like cheering over here because I

537
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: found that he just said it. He said what I found.

538
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: I love this. Estebon love, who is this turned into

539
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: a very fun finelle. Someone asked Lee Travino, the Golfer,

540
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: like how he stays so cool under pressure with these

541
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: puts for hundreds of thousands of dollars, and he said

542
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: that's not hard. What's hard is making at put when

543
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: all you have is five dollars in your pocket, and

544
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: that is like Yohis take on Esteban ocm. There's more pressure,

545
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: not because of the money in the stakes, because of

546
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: what's been given up for his miss family to be successful.

547
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: I like that. Okay, so it's time the driver. Who

548
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: is your your third place driver. I'm gonna tell you

549
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: right now who didn't make it. Check O. Checko is

550
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: not in my top three. Something about this race and

551
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: the whole red bull thing is really irking me. You'RE

552
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to talk to him later. Checko made a

553
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: deal with the devil, you know what I mean, and

554
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: that's his he knew it, he signed it and that's

555
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: his deal. Major bed, you gotta lie in it. It

556
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: would be interesting for Checko to write a memoir, let's

557
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: put it that way. My third most like driver is

558
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: Lewis Hamilton's. I know, I know, he's the greatest driver

559
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: of all time. Blah, blah, blah. I just thought it

560
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: showed a lot of uh grit, even though he's the

561
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: greatest driver, makes the most money, has the best card.

562
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: He was in p nineteen. Someone crashed into him and

563
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: he bitched about it for a second and then I

564
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: thought climbed all the way up to the front thought

565
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: that was really that's the kind of athlete I would

566
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: want to coach. My second driver is, I'm gonna give

567
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: you a hint. Okay, I'm stupid. I'm stupid, Charles Leclair.

568
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: Charles Leclair, how did I say his name? Beautifully, fine enough. Yes,

569
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: I just I'm drawn to him. He has a self

570
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: awareness that I appreciate that that almost seems contradictory to

571
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: the EGO required to drive such a rocket ship. Saying

572
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: I am stupid wins me over. I'm a sucker for

573
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: any self deprecation. He just seems like he's a good

574
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 1: head on his shoulders, you know, and I'm rooting for

575
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: that and I like him. And maybe. Is he handsome? Yeah,

576
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: he's handsome and maybe sometimes when I look in the

577
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: mirror I kind of envision a Charles Leclair. They're getting

578
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: ready to do comedy. You know, you looked into those deep,

579
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: deep eyes and you see a little bit of Michael

580
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: Costa in Charlotte Claire. You know, even though he would

581
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: only probably his head, would make it up to my hips.

582
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: Michael Costa's number one driver. At this point, I'm looking

583
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: at the sheet just to throw lily off. I just

584
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: like the class, the Um, the confidence and, I believe,

585
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: the the composure and the non arrogance. George Russell. Yeah,

586
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: I like George Russell, who I said I was gonna hate. Okay,

587
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: so basically what you're saying. Okay, well's the first of

588
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: I'll say more about George. Yes, you you like that.

589
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: George like. George is always like George was like. I

590
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: like that he went up to the team principal when

591
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: he was nine or whatever, and he was a teenager.

592
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: But yes, whatever he's he's been passionate about wanting to race.

593
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: I think he has probably been overlooked in some capacity

594
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: and maybe they sent him off to that little junior camp.

595
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: That was Williams. Um. I just like his path and

596
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: um I just responded to it. We're also watching him

597
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: at a fun time too, yeah, with the new team,

598
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: and he's doing great right now, right. What is he

599
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: like out driving a car that obviously Lewis Hamilton's, is

600
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: struggling with it. Well, that's also the thing I liked

601
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: about that today that I didn't think about previously was,

602
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: and you brought it up, was he is? He was. Well,

603
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's outperforming Lewis. Hamilton's the greatest and

604
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: he's just doing it quietly and succinctly and it's pretty

605
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: pretty Badass. George Russell. So I have to fucking Mercedes

606
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: drivers kind of. Damn it, I'm not at myself now.

607
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: So something that's been really interesting about this podcast season

608
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: and I guess by extension, this has come up when

609
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: I've talked to listeners about how this has gone. You know,

610
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: people have a lot of opinions on your various choices

611
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: or your your takes. As we've we've gone through all

612
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: these teams and drivers is I've really learned just how

613
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: subjective the concept of fandom is. So there are a

614
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: few bad reasons to dislike a team or a driver

615
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: or just anyone, but on the flip side, I actually

616
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: think that there are a lot of legitimate reasons to

617
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: root for a driver team. To second your thoughts, I'm

618
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: surprised at how subjective my own opinions have been as well.

619
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: So let's talk about colors for a second. I follow

620
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: closely tennis. I don't even know what color anyone ever

621
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: has or wears or what color their racket is or whatever,

622
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 1: because I guess I just know the players so deeply

623
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm above the color thing, but when it

624
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: comes to this sport I realized it's very elementary. It was.

625
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: It was interesting to see that that's still kind of

626
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: what drew me in was certain colors. Well, hilariously enough, well,

627
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: I don't really care about car color or whatnot. When

628
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: I first started getting into Formula One, I was actually

629
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: really intrigued by Red Bull because I drank a lot

630
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: of vodka red bulls in college. So I felt they

631
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: weren't even good, but I felt a connection. I said,

632
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: you know, this is your core childhood memory. That was

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Speaker 1: of different things, but really, when you brand into our brain,

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Speaker 1: when you brand into our emotional cortex, it sticks around and,

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Speaker 1: to be quite frank, you know we had a whole

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Speaker 1: episode where I waxed poetic about my man underrated King

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Speaker 1: got intrigued by their whole dynamic and how much they

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Speaker 1: really seem to enjoy their time together. We are complex, layered,

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Speaker 1: contradictory beings, but also we're pretty simple. They were pretty shallow,

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Speaker 1: like his girlfriend is cool, like they seem nice. That

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Speaker 1: ten years ago. So how do you suggest like wrapping

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Speaker 1: this thing up, like a like a goodbye? How do

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Speaker 1: we say goodbye? Do we have to say goodbye? That

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Speaker 1: feels so definitive. You know, I have a lot of questions.

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Speaker 1: We didn't even talk about pit stops. I have more.

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Speaker 1: I want to know about this intersection of Sport and technology.

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Speaker 1: We could get into fans, we get into how the

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Speaker 1: hell they travel these how do they travel? It's not

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Speaker 1: like they're going from Kansas City to St Louis. They're

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Speaker 1: crossing oceans. Tires. We could do a whole season on tires.

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Speaker 1: Lily wives. Hello the WAGS, which is short for and

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Speaker 1: girlfriends the contracts. Well, I know you loved silly season. Silly,

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Speaker 1: we could do an entire season of silly seasons. Yeah, plural.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Lily, let's not cry because it's over.

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Speaker 1: Let's smile because it happened. Hey, listeners, if you haven't

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Speaker 1: checked out the sport you should, because I didn't know

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Speaker 1: anything about it and it's very intriguing, interesting and thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening to the podcast. I'm Michael Costa, along

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Speaker 1: with Lily Herman, Robert John Oh leary, the second Max Miller. Goodbye.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks, everyone. This has been the first season

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Speaker 1: of choosing sides. F One, a production of sports illustrated

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Speaker 1: studios and I heart radio. This episode was produced by

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Speaker 1: Lily Herman and our senior producer you. Hi, my Tom,

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Speaker 1: who also did the sound design at the cutting room studios.

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Speaker 1: We are recorded by engineer rob O leary, the second

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Speaker 1: mastering by Cello wise blue. Max Miller is the supervising

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Speaker 1: and executive producer and Brandon Getchus is head of audio

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Speaker 1: at s I studios. At I heart radio, Sean Ty

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Speaker 1: toone is our executive producer. Extra special thanks go to

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Speaker 1: David McLeod of the cutting room studios, Paula Keller, Laurie Dunning,

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Speaker 1: a lot. I think for me, if my input is given,

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Speaker 1: my top driver would have to be Charles, because I

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Speaker 1: think he's he's a winner and he's young. Um o'con

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Speaker 1: will definitely be in there and I think in the

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Speaker 1: future there's there's a lot there and it could go

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Speaker 1: either way. It could fall off or it could go well,

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Speaker 1: and then I feel like I have to pick a

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Speaker 1: legend too. So out of all like the O G

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Speaker 1: s of the sport right now, I think I like

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Speaker 1: that all