Speaker 1: Hello, this is Christian Bush and welcome to episode six
Speaker 1: of Geeking Out, my new podcast. Every episode is a
Speaker 1: new person talking about what they're obsessed with that has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with their job. The only requirement is
Speaker 1: that they're totally geeking out on it and they want
Speaker 1: to talk about it. From Mickey Mouse backpacks to knock
Speaker 1: off Jettie highball glasses, from do it yourself guitar pedals
Speaker 1: to CrossFit achievement tattoos, from indoor bouldering to collecting seventies
Speaker 1: lunch boxes. Tell me about what you love, why you
Speaker 1: love it, how you got into it, and what makes
Speaker 1: it awesome. Every episode is presented in three chapters. Chapter one,
Speaker 1: my guest and I talk about what they're obsessed with.
Speaker 1: Chapter two is a game I called trade It, where
Speaker 1: my guest and I turn each other onto one thing
Speaker 1: that we've discovered. And chapter three closes the show with
Speaker 1: me talking about music that I'm currently geeking out on.
Speaker 1: And one I believe that curiosity is contagious and the
Speaker 1: life is better with a soundtrack, So let's go Chapter one.
Speaker 1: Today's guest is Ruth Bennett, who works as an assistant
Speaker 1: for a writer and an executive producer in the TV
Speaker 1: and film business. She's a proud Michigander who splits her
Speaker 1: time between l A and Nashville. She loves dogs and
Speaker 1: her laugh is completely contagious. My producer Whitney, and I
Speaker 1: went to her apartment in Santa Monica to talk about
Speaker 1: her obsession, which you can probably guess based on the
Speaker 1: music that's playing right now, that was still this way
Speaker 1: everybody breath it Okay, where are we? We are in
Speaker 1: Santa Monica, California, in my apartment. Yes, and we're in
Speaker 1: the path of the Santa Monica Airport. So yeah, sanamunic
Speaker 1: Airport annoying planes. Well here comes on now there it
Speaker 1: is okay, I love it, um And so what do
Speaker 1: you What is it that you do for a little
Speaker 1: I am an assistant to an executive producer, writer director
Speaker 1: in the entertainment television film Yeah, and what what does that?
Speaker 1: What does does that mean that you do? Ever? That
Speaker 1: means well, most of my day is spent watching television
Speaker 1: movie reading scripts, reading books that are potential projects coming
Speaker 1: in for her, giving her my thoughts ideas if there's
Speaker 1: a project going on, setting meetings, scheduling, also doing things
Speaker 1: like watching her dogs. Like literally doing it. Also, she
Speaker 1: can focus on what she needs to and what would
Speaker 1: you be obsessed with that you would like to confess
Speaker 1: at this time? Welcome to the confession. Well, I will confess,
Speaker 1: and I'm proud, like I don't need to hide and
Speaker 1: confessional Like I'm all loud and proud about it. But
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Friends fan and have been since day one.
Speaker 1: I know it's twenty bazillion years old, but I still
Speaker 1: watch at least an hour of Friends every day. It's comforting,
Speaker 1: it's part of my routine. I cannot get through a
Speaker 1: day without an episode of Friends. So yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of people. I mean, I don't discuss it with people,
Speaker 1: but I would just started. Yes, I mean clearly, I'll
Speaker 1: talk about it on a podcast. Clearly, we'll talk about
Speaker 1: it on a podcast. Um. So just to be clear
Speaker 1: for people that are maybe too young to understand this, Uh,
Speaker 1: this is Friends the TV show. Yes, Friends TV show,
Speaker 1: the ensemble, which is actually playing in the background right now,
Speaker 1: because I thought it was appropriate when you guys came
Speaker 1: over that I would be playing let the record show
Speaker 1: Ruth watching the episode over my shoulder. Wow, I'm actually
Speaker 1: facing her. I have done it in bed for to No,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Have it on the background, were watching
Speaker 1: h This is the Halloween episode I believe of season eight.
Speaker 1: When when did this begin begin during the original seasons?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right away because it came out when I
Speaker 1: was a freshman in college. And wow, because I'm old
Speaker 1: and kids today don't know how this goes. But like
Speaker 1: when I went to school, you know, I went to college.
Speaker 1: You know, communal TVs were like a thing or there
Speaker 1: were big shows and it was appointment television. You weren't
Speaker 1: going to watch it if you didn't catch it. So
Speaker 1: and this was one of the things where all the
Speaker 1: girls on my floor we would all be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch Friends Thursday nights, and so it was
Speaker 1: like a thing. It was very relatable and we all,
Speaker 1: you know, wanted to live in New York. We're downe
Speaker 1: with theater schools, who were like, yeah, I want that
Speaker 1: apartment that will be a part of my life. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right from the beginning. Hooked. Yeah, And I do
Speaker 1: think that's a good point that back in the day, kids,
Speaker 1: if you didn't have a VCR with you at college,
Speaker 1: you had to find the TV in the dorm. Communal room. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We used to all gather around for Beverly Hills Man,
Speaker 1: yes and place. Yeah, totally the same type of thing.
Speaker 1: So Friends was that for us? When did you start
Speaker 1: to realize that this was something beyond just maybe being
Speaker 1: a fan of the TV show, like it would be
Speaker 1: any other TV show you watched. Um, Well, I think
Speaker 1: because now twenty five years later, I'm still watching it.
Speaker 1: I know every episode by heart, like I know what's
Speaker 1: going to come up next, I know the punchlines. Yet
Speaker 1: I still I literally watch it every day, So I think,
Speaker 1: And maybe when it was ending, you know, I remember
Speaker 1: as a kid like shows what end, Like I remember
Speaker 1: Mash ending, and it was very sad, and it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, clearly I do work in television, so television
Speaker 1: is important. But I remember so vividly, like the lead
Speaker 1: up to the end of Friends, like how emotionally like upset,
Speaker 1: Like they were on Oprah together and they would do
Speaker 1: all of these interviews and I would be like crying,
Speaker 1: like I was having like anxiety and panic attack that
Speaker 1: Friends was ending and then I wasn't gonna be able
Speaker 1: to watch it. Yeah. I was with Rebecca, my best friend,
Speaker 1: Rebecca Um and we both and it was and so
Speaker 1: I just knew them like I was really affected, like
Speaker 1: it was I was affected by it and so yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's slowly just been a slow burn something to do,
Speaker 1: like yeah, get rid of Yeah, so funny. Did you
Speaker 1: own them on all the different mediums? Like did you
Speaker 1: own the episodes? What? How did you first start to
Speaker 1: rewatch them? Um? Well, you know it's been on syndication
Speaker 1: on TBS and oh wow, that's like buzz marketing for them.
Speaker 1: But it's always been on syndication, TV Land, TBS and
Speaker 1: it's always come back. And yes, I did have DVDs
Speaker 1: for a really long time now over the course of
Speaker 1: time because I've cut everything down, like I have only
Speaker 1: my favorite CDs left. Um, I don't have them anymore
Speaker 1: or but yep, I had. But you also had to
Speaker 1: buy them per season. And because I've been so broke
Speaker 1: over the course of my life, like I've never had
Speaker 1: a whole Friend set. I've only ever purchased like seasons
Speaker 1: that I wanted. Uh yeah, so I've had that as well.
Speaker 1: Have you had to pick a favorite Friends season? M h,
Speaker 1: which one is it? They made ten seasons altogether, and
Speaker 1: season eight is my absolute favorite. My favorite arc, like
Speaker 1: the three storylines like when I am low and I
Speaker 1: just need to like recharge my batteries or I just
Speaker 1: need something to make me feel good. I will watch
Speaker 1: the three episode arc of when Rachel when they all
Speaker 1: figure out that Ross is Rachel's baby's dad, right, so,
Speaker 1: and that is called these ones. I do know that
Speaker 1: is the one with the red sweater, and then the
Speaker 1: one after that is the one where Rachel tells So
Speaker 1: that's the one where Ross finds out, and then the
Speaker 1: one after that is the one with the videotape. Just
Speaker 1: hands down my favorite Friends episode ever, Like yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the bomb, and it shows how Emma came to me,
Speaker 1: which is amazing. This is amazing. This happened with other
Speaker 1: TV shows uniquely, like this is nope, um Sex in
Speaker 1: the City. For a while I was watching that, but
Speaker 1: that was because I did not watch Sex in the
Speaker 1: City as it was happening. I didn't couldn't afford HBO,
Speaker 1: so I was a little behind the curb on that one.
Speaker 1: It wasn't something that I watched all the way through
Speaker 1: when was a fan of from the start. Though I
Speaker 1: have gone back and I do appreciate it and have
Speaker 1: watched seple of times, but again, nothing, nothing is comforted me.
Speaker 1: Nothing is Friends. That leads me to the sex in
Speaker 1: the city correlation leads me to the most important question,
Speaker 1: which friend do you most identify with? Okay, let's dig
Speaker 1: into actually the show itself. Okay, see, and I think
Speaker 1: that this is hard because I think part of what's
Speaker 1: her feel about Friends is that you sort of see
Speaker 1: yourself in all of them. Right though, I feel like
Speaker 1: I most identify with Phoebe because she is sort of nonsensical.
Speaker 1: She's really funny, you know what I mean, she just
Speaker 1: kind of I don't she's the mom, even though she's
Speaker 1: the most irresponsible, you know, because she's just sort of
Speaker 1: sort of what you need, and she's got this magical
Speaker 1: like little I don't know, she's she's sort of like
Speaker 1: the fairy who. Okay, there's a theory you haven't heard about,
Speaker 1: the fan theory where the whole premise like that Friends
Speaker 1: takes place those are my neighborhood children. Friends takes place
Speaker 1: inside Phoebe's head and she's a homeless person. So that
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, like theory yes on the internet that
Speaker 1: that is like the real story behind Friends is that
Speaker 1: the entire story of Friends is that Phoebe is a
Speaker 1: homeless persondent to takes place in her brain. So recently
Speaker 1: I've gone back and watched it thinking that, and that
Speaker 1: actually kind of makes sense. But because because she is
Speaker 1: so nonsensical, because she she actually like she treats. She's
Speaker 1: the rudest, like she is the most means. She says
Speaker 1: the meanest stuff to each one of them, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. She takes them to task and she's
Speaker 1: the most brutally honest. Yet she is also very loving
Speaker 1: and very sweet and um even when they're like all
Speaker 1: sort of spinning out of control. She's real, folks, even
Speaker 1: though she's crazy, she's like the center. She's sort of
Speaker 1: the focus one. She's the one you can come back
Speaker 1: to because you can always rely that she's going to
Speaker 1: be the most Phoebe. And that's sort of why I
Speaker 1: relate to her. And I don't relate to Rachel at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do relate to Rachel, but you know,
Speaker 1: like popular, cute, little a little girl La, not so
Speaker 1: much Monica. I totally relate to Monica, except Monica is
Speaker 1: a little O C D like her competitiveness, but she's
Speaker 1: also way to O c D. That's super O c D.
Speaker 1: But yes, and Monica and her relationship with her brother,
Speaker 1: love it, love it, Grassy poo. I faintly remember in
Speaker 1: the back of my brain that before Friends came on,
Speaker 1: I saw Phoebe as a character in another TV show.
Speaker 1: Is that true about Ursula, that is her twin sister Ursula?
Speaker 1: And is that how Friends became Friends? Is that it was? No?
Speaker 1: Do you know the answer to this? It just seems
Speaker 1: like this is the o G they needs, the o
Speaker 1: G of Friends, right, connection is NBC? Yes, and the
Speaker 1: production company I think so Crane and Crane are the
Speaker 1: two there behind what was that showing mad about? Yes?
Speaker 1: And Ursula is a waitress at I didn't watch that show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was completely with real and it was a it
Speaker 1: was a boy thing. I was just I had a crush.
Speaker 1: Even the question is this because your friends obsession extend
Speaker 1: to the extended friends family? Like did you did you
Speaker 1: follow them all into movies into their other shows? Yes?
Speaker 1: Actually I have because yeah, and I never would have
Speaker 1: thought about that until right now, but I sure have.
Speaker 1: And there are things that I think that are like,
Speaker 1: for example, I don't think David Twimmer is a really
Speaker 1: terrific actor. I mean, it's so funny thing about it.
Speaker 1: If you are ever listening, David tim I'm terribly sorry,
Speaker 1: but anyway, but I think he's a fantastic director, like
Speaker 1: some of the things that he's done. Um, yes, so
Speaker 1: I have absolute Really Matthew Perry, God bless him. I've
Speaker 1: enjoyed his shows except for The Odd Couple, which I
Speaker 1: don't like. I love Jennifer Anderson. I'll watch anything that
Speaker 1: she's in because she's a cool check Courtney Cox. I've
Speaker 1: loved everything that she has been in. Cougar Town was
Speaker 1: again a really good one. Yeah, totally have. The answer
Speaker 1: is yes, thank you for helping me put that together.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well okay, and here's the thing is
Speaker 1: that Lisa Kudro I think is one of the best
Speaker 1: female comedic actresses. I think her comic timing The Comeback,
Speaker 1: which is the show, I mean, it was so painful
Speaker 1: and so amazing and so wonderful and and she's and
Speaker 1: that's part of why I love Phoene so much, because
Speaker 1: she'll just deliver these little lines and just get in there.
Speaker 1: And that is Lisa Coudro knowing how to deliver that line.
Speaker 1: And bringing it to that character. And I also think
Speaker 1: that that's part of the reason why Friends worked so much,
Speaker 1: that they were just truly a great ensemble cast and
Speaker 1: they all played to their ranks. And yeah, that's part
Speaker 1: of what I love too. Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever
Speaker 1: bought anything for your apartment to replicate things in Friends?
Speaker 1: I have not, but I have bought friends like paraphernalia.
Speaker 1: Like I had a big friend's coffee mug once. That
Speaker 1: was my favorite mug and then it broke. I had
Speaker 1: a friend zip a hoodie sweatshirt which I bought from.
Speaker 1: One of the first lot tours I did when I
Speaker 1: moved to Los Angeles was to go to the w
Speaker 1: Bee Law and I bought friends gear there and I
Speaker 1: wore that until it just died. So I have had
Speaker 1: different things, but no, I have not like the door
Speaker 1: frame or anything but the people covered. No. I've also
Speaker 1: never had a people never. No, never had myself. My
Speaker 1: question is because you know the generation below ours, So
Speaker 1: Ruth and I are forty two ish, give or take,
Speaker 1: you'd never know to look at us, um the generation
Speaker 1: right blowers, the thirty two year olds, are equally as
Speaker 1: obsessed with friends, even though they were like seven when
Speaker 1: the show came out. Why do you think it resonates
Speaker 1: with them as well? I think they were watching it
Speaker 1: at TV Land. And here is why I say this,
Speaker 1: because it's even even a slightly younger generation. Again when
Speaker 1: I first moved here, so I was taking care of
Speaker 1: this family, um, and they had three wonderful kids, and
Speaker 1: they're all now like the youngest one that I it's
Speaker 1: how I came to be with them because he went
Speaker 1: to school with my god daughter. Um. He now just
Speaker 1: a freshman in college. Boy. Um. But they were friends
Speaker 1: with Marta Kaufman and they would go to friends takings
Speaker 1: all the time, right, So I think that they watched that.
Speaker 1: So they watched it too, even though they were young
Speaker 1: like that age because that's when Friends was finishing. So
Speaker 1: you have they were in fifth and sixth grade his
Speaker 1: oldest sister, right, So you have them that started watching it.
Speaker 1: But I feel like all of these other kids have
Speaker 1: now also been watching it on TV Land, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And it's just such a part of
Speaker 1: their like I love Lucy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like for us, I love Lucy was around and it
Speaker 1: was something that you turned on. It was on when
Speaker 1: you're after school. So I think that for these kids
Speaker 1: growing up at the back end of it and then
Speaker 1: having it immediately go into syndication, you know, and being
Speaker 1: a part of just the cultural phenomenon that it was,
Speaker 1: I think that that that plays a part definitely about
Speaker 1: the story that resonates. Do you think, what why do
Speaker 1: people stick with it? Stick with friends because you can't
Speaker 1: identify with the apartment or their jobs or they're even
Speaker 1: like their clothes, because that's not attainable. But I think no,
Speaker 1: And honestly, when you really look at it, like there's
Speaker 1: the whole will Fell suscension of dislief, there are certain
Speaker 1: things that you don't really want to pay attention to
Speaker 1: those of us that know New York. No, that that's
Speaker 1: a huge, huge apartment and there's no way and how
Speaker 1: that they were ever going to afford that, And yes,
Speaker 1: you can break it down like that. So yeah, but
Speaker 1: that doesn't change the fact that we all have a
Speaker 1: group of friends that you've all grown up with, you know,
Speaker 1: like these like so the characters in the show have
Speaker 1: known each other some since that you know, our brother
Speaker 1: and sister clearly, some since early childhood, you know, some
Speaker 1: since college. So we all can sort of relate to that,
Speaker 1: and having your posse of friends still be friends and
Speaker 1: have this sort of communal life, you know, in your
Speaker 1: early twenties and being fairly successful like that is kind
Speaker 1: of you know, the dream of it all. Let's just
Speaker 1: keep you know, high school going, or you know, let's
Speaker 1: just so yeah, I think that that's totally relatable, and
Speaker 1: it again is very comforting and homie and you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't it be great. I've lived with my best
Speaker 1: friend and dated my other best friend and we had
Speaker 1: you know, so it's also completely unrealistic if you think
Speaker 1: about that, you know, like, I mean, yes, I have
Speaker 1: a core group of I think back on college had
Speaker 1: a core group of you know, six to eight friends
Speaker 1: that were always together. They were always hanging out at
Speaker 1: my house and we as a pack did things and
Speaker 1: in different circles. Yeah, we also had a larger circle
Speaker 1: that was way more inclusive, you know. But then again,
Speaker 1: that doesn't make it for a good twenty twenty eight
Speaker 1: minutes story on TV What's a week? What episode do
Speaker 1: you think may be the most uncomfortable? Maybe the most uncomfortable, okay,
Speaker 1: are the ones where Phoebe's real mo like, um, Phoebe
Speaker 1: given you know, the triplets away, there's like a whole
Speaker 1: little thing where she's like, just ask if I can
Speaker 1: keep one, you know what I mean? Like those things
Speaker 1: make you start of uncomfortable, and when she when her
Speaker 1: little heart strings are being pulled on, that does uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: But I don't know other than that. But I also
Speaker 1: don't like in general, when like sit coms are trying
Speaker 1: to be poignant. I want them just to be funny.
Speaker 1: You know. I realized everybody has a message or whatever,
Speaker 1: and I don't see this as a rule, but as
Speaker 1: a rule, I really want them just to be like funny.
Speaker 1: So any of them that try to like really send
Speaker 1: a message, like, leave that to my drama. What are
Speaker 1: your favorite jokes? Um, Usually they're just lines, Yes, well,
Speaker 1: all of the ones that you see on the memes,
Speaker 1: like he's you know, he's her lobster, ms chinandeler bong
Speaker 1: you know from the episode, and they're playing trivia like
Speaker 1: all of those things. Yes, so, and those are relatable,
Speaker 1: But I find that my favorite favorite moments are very subtle. Um,
Speaker 1: I was bringing at Phoebe, So I'm gonna give one
Speaker 1: to Ross David Swimmer. There's the episode where Monica and
Speaker 1: Chandler are trying to get pregnant and they're doing it
Speaker 1: all over and Chandler fakes it because he doesn't really
Speaker 1: think that he wants to get pregnant right now. And
Speaker 1: two times in that episode, Ross happens to be in
Speaker 1: the apartment when Monica says something completely inappropriate, the same
Speaker 1: I'm your brother, And the second time he's looking for
Speaker 1: a tie, and so Chandler like delivers the blow like,
Speaker 1: you know, I you couldn't get pregnant because I faked it,
Speaker 1: And she was like what And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you ever cut straws and me it was like, I
Speaker 1: don't really need a tie, you know. It's just like
Speaker 1: the way he delivers it. It's not really a joke,
Speaker 1: but it's such a perfect moment. You're like, yeah, So
Speaker 1: those are really my favorite, I mean, in addition to
Speaker 1: all of the classics. So if somebody has never watched
Speaker 1: Friends that's you know, living under a rock, or maybe
Speaker 1: they're just younger, where would you start them? Like? How
Speaker 1: if you wanted to help someone go into your obsession world?
Speaker 1: How how would you get on there? Um? Interesting, So
Speaker 1: Angelina had actually asked a while ago because she was
Speaker 1: never a huge fan of Friends, she didn't watch it religiously,
Speaker 1: and she was doing something and she put up on Facebook.
Speaker 1: She's like, Okay, I feel like I really just need
Speaker 1: to get into Friends and watch some of the best
Speaker 1: you know, and try to figure it out. Where do
Speaker 1: I begin. It's what she said and what I say, Um,
Speaker 1: Friends has a Thanksgiving thing. I mean, you know, all
Speaker 1: TV shows have their holiday shows, but Friends Thanksgiving episodes
Speaker 1: are like a thing. And so I say, any Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: episode of Friends, if you're new to Friends, you can
Speaker 1: just start and just watch the Thanksgiving episode from each
Speaker 1: season and that would be a good little snippet, you know. Um. Also,
Speaker 1: clearly in the three episode of Art that I said,
Speaker 1: so that does sort of give it all away. So
Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't suggest that people that are new because
Speaker 1: you want to you kind of want to get it,
Speaker 1: but everybody knows. Like that's the thing is that people
Speaker 1: that have a watch Friends, you sort of like know,
Speaker 1: like you know about the cheesier lobster and the Ross
Speaker 1: and Rachel and how it all ends up. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so maybe I would suggest then that three episode arc
Speaker 1: in season eight. Um, and hands down like the funniest,
Speaker 1: I mean, of all of the Thanksgiving episodes. The Lone
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt is really hilarious and it's one of my
Speaker 1: favorites again just of all time, Like that's one of
Speaker 1: the best. Which side that is flashback episode that is
Speaker 1: one of the Thanksgivings is like a Thanksgiving flashback. So
Speaker 1: what they do is they just flash back to Thanksgivings
Speaker 1: that haven't actually been on the air, but it's just
Speaker 1: like different Thanksgivings in time before and so that is
Speaker 1: in I think that might be season seven word Monica
Speaker 1: and Chandler are engaged and they're going back because they're
Speaker 1: revealing things that had happened, like Monica had cut off
Speaker 1: Chandler's toll on accident way back. You don't want to
Speaker 1: go there? Yeah, man, god, it's such a good show.
Speaker 1: So do you think the show will survive the test
Speaker 1: of time? You think that thirty forty years from now
Speaker 1: it would be like an I love loosely? Yeah? Does
Speaker 1: it feel that way to you or is it it does? Actually?
Speaker 1: I think I think it stands up. So maybe not,
Speaker 1: because you have, like the Andy Greta show, things that
Speaker 1: do do this leave it to beaver, you know things
Speaker 1: that kids still watch and that are on TV. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I do. I think it will. I mean, it might
Speaker 1: not be as hetty, and it might not always deliver
Speaker 1: those saying you know, might not get so poignant and
Speaker 1: deliver an impactful message, but I think it does still resonate.
Speaker 1: Does your love grow for the as you watch it
Speaker 1: more and more? Do you think you plateau? No, it
Speaker 1: grows more and more. Is there in your mind? Is
Speaker 1: there a line that's too far? Will I cross the
Speaker 1: friend's line? No? No, And here's the thing, So I
Speaker 1: take all those quizzes, which friend are you? You know?
Speaker 1: Where would you have lived? Like? Who would have been
Speaker 1: your perfect friends? So I take those quizzes. And I'm
Speaker 1: not a person who takes quizzes online, but if it's
Speaker 1: a friends one, I'm gonna take it. Gilmore girls too,
Speaker 1: but friends, Yeah, it's crazy, it's no. I don't think
Speaker 1: I can cross a lot of friends a tattoo. Nah,
Speaker 1: that would be crossing the line. Yep, you're totally right.
Speaker 1: I would not get a friend's tattoo. You're you're you're
Speaker 1: asking yourself in your head, your your eyes are moving. Yeah,
Speaker 1: would you actually you get a quote. No, I don't
Speaker 1: think I would get a wow. Though I would, I don't.
Speaker 1: That's hard to say because here's the thing, because I'm
Speaker 1: also attatched tooo fan. I'm a tattoo fan, So I
Speaker 1: feel like there are ways to get a tattoo that
Speaker 1: are a nod to or that perhaps would incorporate something
Speaker 1: that if you looked at it, nobody would ever be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's our friend's tattoo. Would I do that? I maybe
Speaker 1: I would not put it past myself to do that.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't get an entire like phoebe sleep. No, no,
Speaker 1: I would not get as sleep. But you know, like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't get a pous sleep. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: like if something came up and it were the right thing,
Speaker 1: I because I here's what I'm thinking about, Here's what
Speaker 1: I here's what I'm thinking about. My friend and I
Speaker 1: happened to be listening to the Banana Pancakes song by
Speaker 1: Jack Johnson quite a bit over the course of one
Speaker 1: really fun weekend. And so now every every time we
Speaker 1: hear banana Pancakes, we hear the song. I see a
Speaker 1: stack of them. I'm eating banana pancakes. We always share
Speaker 1: that with each other. And I literally found this cute
Speaker 1: little cartoon like stack of banana pancakes. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I would totally get this tattoo. So that's why I
Speaker 1: say something ridiculous like no, I'd never get a friend's tattoo.
Speaker 1: But then something stupid like that happens, and I'm just
Speaker 1: that sentimental. And I do love friends, and I do
Speaker 1: also love tattoos, so I would not put it past
Speaker 1: myself to do something. Never say never. This is the
Speaker 1: perfect place to stop this momentum. Thank you for your confession. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is fun. I feel really good. I appreciate it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put friends back on chapter two. In every
Speaker 1: episode of Eking Out, I see if I can trade
Speaker 1: one thing I've discovered with one thing that my guest
Speaker 1: has discovered, a friendly exchange. I call it trade ja. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this part of the podcast is called trade Jah.
Speaker 1: So every guest that's on, we kind of turn each
Speaker 1: other onto something that we've just discovered that where we like,
Speaker 1: don't have to be big, doesn't have to be a
Speaker 1: something you get a tattoo of. But I love that's
Speaker 1: where that went. Um So and I'll start, just to
Speaker 1: give you time to think. Think, Um, I'm actually it's
Speaker 1: on my body right now, these shoes. Have you ever
Speaker 1: seen these shoes? I hope, but they're really cute. Things
Speaker 1: are called all birds, all right, and they're made of wool,
Speaker 1: sweet and so it's there a sock. They're supposed to
Speaker 1: be worn without socks. So the shoe itself is also
Speaker 1: a sock. And it's a L L B, I R
Speaker 1: D s albirds And they come in different colors men
Speaker 1: and women. And this is the most comfortable shoe now.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if they're you know, like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're great for me, but it's like
Speaker 1: flip flops with a sock on it. That's awesome, Okay,
Speaker 1: Because I don't know where you buy it. I got
Speaker 1: them online. That's amazing. Your shoe game is always strong,
Speaker 1: now strong, but this is particularly good because I know you.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I've found out with
Speaker 1: this these shoes is that, um, you just put them
Speaker 1: in the washing machine and you wash them and you
Speaker 1: leave them out to dry overnight, and they're dry and
Speaker 1: they're awesome again the next day. I love that. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to look at those because I was actually
Speaker 1: shoes shopping earlier today and they look they look like
Speaker 1: they're structured tennis shoes. Yeah, they really talked to me.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh my gosh, that's a sweatshirt. Yeah. They're
Speaker 1: really soft and they're breathaball and even if your feet stink,
Speaker 1: you can throw them in the last my feet. My
Speaker 1: feet stink, so that and I like foot flaps blasts
Speaker 1: if that's very good. Yeah, I know those are really cute.
Speaker 1: All right, Um, here's what I'm gonna offer, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna offer it. It's not necessarily new to me, but
Speaker 1: I find that I suggested to people more often than
Speaker 1: anything else that I suggest. And it's an app buzz marketing.
Speaker 1: Here you go. It's an app called Turbo Scan. When
Speaker 1: I bought it years ago, it was cents. I think now,
Speaker 1: because I've told so many people over the course of
Speaker 1: time that they need it, it might be to um,
Speaker 1: but literally it's the best thing you can facts and
Speaker 1: scan and do everything and store important documents in your
Speaker 1: phone and it's not just in your photos and that way.
Speaker 1: Like literally I was I had to go to FedEx
Speaker 1: Kinko's because I had to drop something off at that
Speaker 1: X and there was a woman there who was going
Speaker 1: to facts something, um you know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: she had the document and she didn't know and she
Speaker 1: had an iPhone. And they literally said, Okay, I understand
Speaker 1: why you're here and all, but check out the app
Speaker 1: called Turbo Scan and you'll never have to come here again.
Speaker 1: You can do it all on your phone. And she
Speaker 1: was like, are you kidding me? And I was like yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, because you can just take a picture
Speaker 1: of it on your phone, you create a document. I said,
Speaker 1: you can just do it all right there. It's Tune nine.
Speaker 1: You only ever have to pay for at once and
Speaker 1: you never have to come back. And she's like, thanks
Speaker 1: so much, and it's again turbo Scan. Yeah, I need
Speaker 1: you really? Do you really do? Yep? And I do
Speaker 1: things I find like because I'm an assistant. This is
Speaker 1: on tailing of that, like important documents that I need
Speaker 1: to have at a moment's notice, like my boss's insurance
Speaker 1: card or a copy of her passport or something that
Speaker 1: I might need really quickly just to email somebody to
Speaker 1: get her something. I also keep those oh man, now
Speaker 1: somebody listens podcasts and steals my phone but I also
Speaker 1: keep those secret documents that I don't want. If anybody
Speaker 1: were to pick up my phone, they just can't find
Speaker 1: those exactly. You would have to know, so it's like
Speaker 1: a secret place to store important stuff. I love this
Speaker 1: accept all right, Boom can look at that. They should endorse. Shoot,
Speaker 1: they really should, seriously, I recommend it at least once
Speaker 1: a month. Not and to random strange, there's no aren't
Speaker 1: even looking for a recommending, just any time. Thanks for
Speaker 1: being on the podcast. Things were in finding me. I'm
Speaker 1: so glad. I's like a joy thing. As on the
Speaker 1: episode Behind my Shoulder, See, yeah, it's so great. Boy.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of nineties centric style. Yeah, oh, the
Speaker 1: chunky shoes. And maybe that's also why I relate to
Speaker 1: Phoebe because her style was sort of you know, she's
Speaker 1: a hippie at heart. I kind of. Wait. Was brack
Speaker 1: Hit married Jennifer Emerson during Man which he was dating
Speaker 1: Mock on the show. No, they were old. They both
Speaker 1: used to be fat in high school, right, and then
Speaker 1: they bumped into each other and she invites him over
Speaker 1: for whatever. And that's why Rachel doesn't remember him because
Speaker 1: he was because he was not and he didn't pay
Speaker 1: attention to the fat people in high school, like Monica
Speaker 1: or Ross because Ross was a dweeve. Well yeah, well
Speaker 1: he and Ross said that I hate Rachel Fan Club.
Speaker 1: I don't remember this for you not to cut I
Speaker 1: can't say it, but it's then. They also refer to
Speaker 1: the fact that there was one other kid, an exchange, Judd,
Speaker 1: but he didn't know why he was a member. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good episodes. That's what I'm saying. Thank you, You're welcome,
Speaker 1: thank you, I love you. Chapter three me geeking out
Speaker 1: on music TV theme songs today, I want to talk
Speaker 1: about TV theme songs. I love them. When I was
Speaker 1: about fourteen, I wanted to learn to play the bass,
Speaker 1: and I asked my mentor, Dug at the local music store,
Speaker 1: what is the best way to learn to play bass,
Speaker 1: and he told me go sit in front of the
Speaker 1: TV and learn the base lines to primetime TV show themes.
Speaker 1: I realized that there was no way that I was
Speaker 1: going to sit in front of the TV with a
Speaker 1: bass amp and get along with my parents at the
Speaker 1: same time. So I learned this weird trick that if
Speaker 1: I put the side of my head against the body
Speaker 1: of the bass, I could hear it through my skull
Speaker 1: and not bother anybody. So I started to learn to
Speaker 1: play bass from the TV shows like Barney Miller or
Speaker 1: Sanford and Sign or The Jefferson's. Since then, I've always
Speaker 1: paid attention to the music and starts a show, a melody, rhythm,
Speaker 1: a lyric that immediately takes me to the show that
Speaker 1: it's from. I can't even separate them anymore. Let's play
Speaker 1: a game, for instance, guess this one for this one
Speaker 1: or even this. I couldn't help myself thinking about my
Speaker 1: conversation with Ruth and how I remember being in the
Speaker 1: Atlantic Records office in mid waiting on our Billy Pilgrim
Speaker 1: record to come out, and digging through the c D
Speaker 1: closet where we would get free copies of albums by
Speaker 1: other artists on the same label. And I picked up
Speaker 1: a rem Brand's album, and I remember, and my memory
Speaker 1: needs to be judged on a curve of a year
Speaker 1: old in New York, probably hungover, but I remember someone
Speaker 1: saying they are probably going to get dropped from the label.
Speaker 1: Things aren't selling like they used to on this band.
Speaker 1: I wasn't familiar with their music, but within a few
Speaker 1: months their song was the theme song for Friends, and
Speaker 1: I can imagine everything changed for them, probably forever. I
Speaker 1: was proud every time a Billy Pilgrim's song made it
Speaker 1: onto a TV show. We had songs in bay Watch
Speaker 1: and Melrose Plays and even My so called Life. I'm
Speaker 1: very proud of that, but we never had a theme song.
Speaker 1: As sugar Land started to get wings and then kind
Speaker 1: of lift off, I kept it in the back of
Speaker 1: my mind a dream to one day write a TV
Speaker 1: theme song. I would take a stab at almost anything. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play you some of these uh here. We
Speaker 1: took a swing at a theme song for Chelsea Handler's
Speaker 1: talk show, thinking that Jennifer and I would write a
Speaker 1: melody that was super catchy but with irreverent lyrics just
Speaker 1: like Chelsea Chelsea Lately Shoes. It's one stands something girl.
Speaker 1: So she didn't use it obviously, but we thought it
Speaker 1: was awesome. Next, my brother Brandon and I got a
Speaker 1: shot at writing a theme song to a new animated
Speaker 1: show for Disney called Wander Over Yonder, and they wanted
Speaker 1: a science fiction jug band feel, and so we decided
Speaker 1: to use crazy noisemakers and traditional toy instruments, and I
Speaker 1: wrote some crazy lyrics and even sang in a character voice. Well.
Speaker 1: They used our theme at Comic Con the year that
Speaker 1: they presented the pilot, but the company eventually picked another option.
Speaker 1: When it went to air. It was a near miss,
Speaker 1: but it was awesome. This is it. Do your part,
Speaker 1: as you might imagine, because of course, the world works
Speaker 1: in the strangest ways. I finally got a theme song,
Speaker 1: but mostly it was an accident. I was asked to
Speaker 1: be on a show about wedding dress shopping called Say
Speaker 1: Yes to the Dress, and while there, um I met
Speaker 1: the producer who mentioned music for the show, and I
Speaker 1: immediately raised my hand and offered. So we agreed I
Speaker 1: would take a shot at a song, maybe to just
Speaker 1: anchor the episode that I was going to appear on.
Speaker 1: I went home the next afternoon, back to Atlanta and
Speaker 1: wrote a song for her, and I sent it and
Speaker 1: I got worried that I hadn't heard back from her.
Speaker 1: Maybe she didn't like it, maybe it was the wrong
Speaker 1: vibe or the wrong feel. But I come to find
Speaker 1: out a week later that she actually loved it and
Speaker 1: wondered if it could be the theme song for the show,
Speaker 1: and I said, of course, it's called Forever Now, kiss Me,
Speaker 1: feel my Heart, day, take me down, and White, Let
Speaker 1: me me who then stock Forever now for take my Heart.
Speaker 1: Fast forward to last weekend and I'm getting my hair
Speaker 1: cut down the street and the lady cutting my hair
Speaker 1: is covered in awesome tattoos, like both sleeves across her chest.
Speaker 1: She has pink hair. She's seven times cooler than I
Speaker 1: will ever be. And she starts talking, you know, the
Speaker 1: way hairdressers do when you don't talk back to him.
Speaker 1: And she confessed that yesterday she had stayed in all
Speaker 1: day watching us say yes to dress Marathon. And I
Speaker 1: started the smile, and then I started laughing. She thought
Speaker 1: I was laughing at her addiction, maybe to the show,
Speaker 1: and I apologized and said, it's not you, it's it's
Speaker 1: totally me. I actually wrote and sing the theme song
Speaker 1: to that show. And she she was like, no, are
Speaker 1: you kidding? Forever now, Oh my god? Really, can we
Speaker 1: take a picture, you know, when I'm finished cutting your hair?
Speaker 1: And of course I said yes, And uh, she has
Speaker 1: no idea that I have a country band, or before that,
Speaker 1: I had a rock band. She just knows this song
Speaker 1: because it's her favorite show. So next time, you click
Speaker 1: on Netflix or Hulu, or turn on the TV and
Speaker 1: a show start. Pay attention to the music that you hear,
Speaker 1: look up who wrote it. Enjoy the deep dive on
Speaker 1: the soundtrack just below the story. You never know what
Speaker 1: you might. I hope you enjoyed this episode of Geeking
Speaker 1: Out and we are already hard at work on the
Speaker 1: next one. Are you obsessed with something amazing? I want
Speaker 1: to tell us about it. Right to us at geeking
Speaker 1: Out with KB at gmail dot com and you might
Speaker 1: be a guest on an upcoming episode. Come find out
Speaker 1: more about me and this podcast at Christian Bush dot com,
Speaker 1: Christian with a K people follow me at Christian Bush
Speaker 1: on Twitter, Christian Bush on Instagram, Christian Bush on Facebook,
Speaker 1: and Christian M. Bush on Snapchat. Thanks to Bobby Bones
Speaker 1: for the opportunity to make this podcast, Briana Bush for
Speaker 1: making the soundtrack and assembling the pieces, Tom Tapley for
Speaker 1: audio wizardry, and Whitney Pastrick for being a great producer
Speaker 1: and making this whole thing possible. This is Christian Bush
Speaker 1: Geeking Out. Thank you for listening.