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Speaker 1: be careful, there are spoilers here. Hello, my name is

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Speaker 1: Jason Sepsi, and welcome to x ray Vision the Crooked Podcast,

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Speaker 1: where we dive deep down into the waters of newer

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Speaker 1: of your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. In

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Speaker 1: today's episode on previously on, we've got some news including

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Speaker 1: the premiere of the delightful Miss Marvel and as well

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Speaker 1: as episode four of the ongoing great television show Obi

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Speaker 1: Wan Kenobi. And of course, if you want to jump around,

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Speaker 1: check out the time stamps in our show notes. We'll

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Speaker 1: have detailed notes in there about all the things we

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Speaker 1: stuff is the Walking Comics Encyclopedia, the number one Godzilla storyteller.

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Speaker 1: How's it coming? It's going good? How are you? How

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Speaker 2: I feel tired. I was at the Black Adam launch

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling excited. There's a lot of good stuff to

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Speaker 1: That movie is going to make a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: That is my prediction, much money.

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Speaker 2: And when we talk about it, I will tell you

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Speaker 2: the most interesting thing that has come out.

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Speaker 1: Listen, let's get to previolously on. Then in the news,

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Speaker 1: Netflix Sandman trailer has been released. It was next Netflix

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Speaker 1: Geeked Week this past week. Their coverage in that vein

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Speaker 1: continues as Netflix stamps its flag down on its geek

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Speaker 1: includes the release of the trailer of Neil Gaiman's iconic

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Speaker 1: David S. Goyer, who's got a you know, as much

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Speaker 2: That is one of them, and then skipping ahead, but

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Speaker 2: seeing and was the best thing about the trailer in

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on the trailer, very sand many, very very

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Speaker 1: You said something very important, which is that you know,

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Speaker 2: I think he's like a big that said to be.

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Speaker 1: And I have listened. I've read a ton of Neil gamanuh,

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433
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Speaker 1: much like what we just said about Jurassic World dominion,

434
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,959
Speaker 1: there are critiques in here that are not so okay

435
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: about corporations, about the way power accumulates towards the power

436
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: towards those who are arey powerful, about how the underclasses

437
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: can fight back against that, about class distinctions, about racial

438
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: device et cetera. And there again they're not they're not subtle,

439
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: but I find them like tremendously powerful told in this

440
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: medium that is, you know, superhero stories are, like I

441
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: don't think it not even arguably, are the most popular

442
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: forms storytelling right now. And so to to like talk

443
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Speaker 1: about these kind of themes in the context of superheroes

444
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: in a way that takes the superman myth and makes

445
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: it more real, turns it on its head, is super

446
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Speaker 1: thought thought provoking. And this is happening in a show

447
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: in which, like you know, the termite crawls into a

448
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: man's urethra and then grows to adult size again and

449
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: then like blows his dick up, like you know what

450
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Like I can't believe I'm saying, like I am,

451
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: I find this thought broken, but I really do.

452
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: I think the smartest thing about the Boys and like

453
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Speaker 2: the thing that is going to make it so vital

454
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: for like the next three decades, right is they took

455
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Speaker 2: an underground like Edgy comic which neither of us are

456
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Speaker 2: fans of, and they repurposed it. And in the first

457
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: season they were like, yeah, this is like Edgy and

458
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: it's kind of a it's about corporation, and oh, can

459
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 2: you see the similarities here between like Disney and and

460
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: Vore and but by season two they were just straight

461
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: up telling you, like, this is how it would be.

462
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: And also we're almost half there with these fake superheroes

463
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 2: and the way that they're used. We don't even need

464
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: them in real life. The things that these icons can

465
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Speaker 2: represent or can be used to sell, I mean, I

466
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: will never forget. I think it's the thirties episode of

467
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Speaker 2: the second season where they do this press conference for

468
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Speaker 2: Stormfront who spoiler alert if you haven't seen, is a

469
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Speaker 2: nasty it's like a legitimate like one hundred and twenty

470
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Speaker 2: year old, were like one of the.

471
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Speaker 1: Originals, like one of the first fifteen Nazis.

472
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Speaker 2: Like and if you and I think like most people

473
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Speaker 2: knew before the show came out, so it wasn't kind

474
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 2: of a big reveal. But they do a press conference

475
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Speaker 2: for her and these two other heroes, Hannah, and the

476
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Speaker 2: way that it is done, this sacchering, pink feminist like

477
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: girls get it done, that's the same it is. It

478
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: spoke so deeply to the way that that stuff can

479
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: be posed and the way that they try and use

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00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: that to control the narrative about self empowerment and when

481
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: really you're promoting something so horrific, you know, it's so clever.

482
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: And all I've heard about season three is that that

483
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 2: element has been even more Hoe and Sharper and I

484
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 2: love to hear that about Homeland and too, because I

485
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: think by the end of season two he is already

486
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: up there in the pantheon and he is crazy. So

487
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: that the promo that was done before this where they

488
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: showed his face on the screen telling the story of

489
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: how Stormfront tricked him and he was just a guy

490
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: who fell in love with the wrong woman, and they

491
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 2: kind of blew it up and showed that you were

492
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: saying the same thing. That was so chilling, and that

493
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 2: was like a social promo, like I love Also have.

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Speaker 1: You seen that an Amazon pr not a here we

495
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: are like? This is? This shows you what I mean?

496
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: Just this is just listen. That's the point you can

497
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: critique this is it's like the It's like the meme,

498
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, the cartoon of like, uh oh hey, I'd

499
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: like to I'd like to fix society a little bit.

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00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, you take society right, There's no escape from it, right,

501
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: So this is a this is an anti corporatist, anti

502
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: capitalist show that that takes place within a corporate, a

503
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: massive corporate enery. There's no escaping from those kind of things.

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00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: That said, I think that the show is really hitting

505
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: on all cylinders for me right now. I'm super enjoying it.

506
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk in a deeper way about it.

507
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: I guess we should say that there is a scene

508
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: in the season three premiere that has been directly inspired by,

509
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: and this is confirmed by show runner Eric Kripke, the

510
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: famous meums which said that which, of course you recall,

511
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Speaker 1: it was this idea like, if they wanted to stop

512
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: Thanos earlier, what they should have done is have Scotland

513
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: shrink down, crawl into Thanos's butt, and then grow to

514
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: human size, because of course he's going to be softer

515
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: on the inside. And then we see this in the premiere,

516
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: in the scene in which Termite shrinks down crawls into

517
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: a man's eruthra, and then you know it's coming right away.

518
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: He sneezes, grows back to human size and kills the guy.

519
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: It is horrific, but also you just like understood that

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00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: it was going to happen. And it made me think

521
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: of you know, back when I was doing a bingeboed Marvel,

522
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: somebody we had like a mail bag and somebody asked, okay,

523
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: so what side would you have been on in the

524
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: Civil War? Would you be pro registration or anti registration?

525
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Speaker 1: And here's the answer. In the Marvel universe, the Marvel

526
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: cinematic universe, which I love, the heroes are heroic, they're good,

527
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: so placing power in their hands is actually like a

528
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: very comfortable thing to do, like in the fiction. In

529
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Speaker 1: the fictional reality of the Marvel universe, I'm anti registration

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Speaker 1: because Shield was fucking Hydra and I just trust Captain

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Speaker 1: America and Tony Stark and Natasha and all those people

532
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: more and and T'Challa, I trust them way more than

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Speaker 1: the government. Now, flip it. If this is the real

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Speaker 1: world and there's a billionaire out there with like a

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Speaker 1: trillion dollar suit of armor you can fly around, and

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Speaker 1: there's a super soldier who was created by a military

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00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: program and he's doing like stuff that nobody knows about.

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Speaker 1: And then there's like a brain half brainwashed, like former

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Speaker 1: Russian agent with a bionic arm. And there's like like

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Speaker 1: a physicist who turns into like a huge rage monster

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Speaker 1: who can destroy the whole cities. Yeah, I want them

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00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: registered like that in the real world. I want them registered,

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00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: And so The Boys does that. Part of what makes

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00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: The Boys hit so hard is it is more realistic

545
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: about how it would probably go down if superheroes actually

546
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 1: existed in a world, they would be huge celebrities. They

547
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: would be corporate sponsorships, brand sponsorships, corporation. Yeah, they'd be

548
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: involved with their curating. There'd be a lot of cover ups.

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00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: They'd be immensely powerful. The government wouldn't know how to

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00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: regulate them, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: You No, I totally agree, And I think something that's

552
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: really funny is like and depressing, but like the Boys

553
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: is much it feels much more real the mc like

554
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: you said, it's an idealistic place, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, which is why I why the hero isn't

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Speaker 1: taking part in it.

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00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the heroes and the MCU were literally so

558
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: infallible that they had to write like obviously everything is

559
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: written in it's fictional, but they had to write in

560
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: wonder like killing thousands of people accidentally in Lagos to

561
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: make the registration seem like there was an argument for.

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Speaker 1: It, you know.

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Speaker 2: So so like, I totally agree with you that the

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Speaker 2: real I mean, now, I think you could argue that

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00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: the registration in the MCU post the post West New

566
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 2: You'd probably be for it. But I'm never full registering anyone.

567
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, keep them, Charles, you keep them safe in

568
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: the X school. Don't let the government get them. Baby,

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Speaker 2: all right?

570
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Speaker 1: Up, Next, we go into the airlock to discuss Miss

571
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Speaker 1: Marvel episode one Generation Why and Big Big Big Dive

572
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: into Obi wan Kenobe Part four. Coat stepping out of

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Speaker 1: the airlock to talk about Miss Marvel. The debut Miss Marvel,

574
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Speaker 1: which we'll be diving into as more as the series progresses,

575
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: and Part four of Obi Wan Kenobe, both out on

576
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: Disney Plus. First up, Miss Marvel episode one generation Why

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Speaker 1: we opened to the Dulcet Cocaine Sounds of the Weekends

578
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 1: Blinding Lights, wonderful poppy synth pop song about cocaine and

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Speaker 1: going out clubbing, and it's the perfect soundtrack for a

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Speaker 1: show about a high school teenager. And we watch that

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Speaker 1: high school teenager, high school student, Jersey City resident Kamala Khan,

582
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: as she is uploading the last chapter of her history

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Speaker 1: of the Avengers, which she has done in very very

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00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: creative paper animation, just like in the comics. And we

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00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: learned through this that one Kamala is a super super

586
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: fan of Captain Marvel and particularly in all things superheroes

587
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Speaker 1: in general. She even listens to Scott Lang's podcast Big

588
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Speaker 1: Big Me, Little Me on the This Powered Life podcast network.

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00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: And furthermore, Captain Marvel is just kamala Is absolute favorite. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Captain Marvel is currently off world doing stuff that no

591
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: one is really sure what she's doing, and some people

592
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Speaker 1: are criticizing her for like abandoning Earth, but as Kamala says,

593
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: can a woman just live? Plus recall what Captain Mark

594
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: set an endgame? When Natasha's like, so are you coming

595
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: back here? Are you coming back to help us out

596
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: with stuff? And She's like, listen, stuff that happened on

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00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: Earth also happened like all across the universe, and there's

598
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: thousands of world out here that need help. So I

599
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: got to be dealing with that. So she's dealing with

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00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff right now. Kamala signs off and

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00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: teases her theory one that Thor is a gamer true

602
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: correct tells her. She tells her subs to two total

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00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: subs on her YouTube channel that she'll be at Avengers

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00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: Con this weekend cosplaying as who else Captain Marvel. We

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00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: then meet Kamala's family, her mother Muniba, father use of

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00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: older brother Amir. Kamala heads off to her driving test,

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Speaker 1: which is a smash hit in the sense that she

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00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: smashes into her driving teacher's actual car, and then we

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00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: go smash cutting into the title sequence of the show.

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Speaker 1: All of this is really done in a super poppy,

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00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: really fun er jet like lots of movement of the camera,

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00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: really exciting cuts like the art.

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00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: Direction of like building in Kamala's are into.

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00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: The wall so appealing, the way text messages come up

615
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: like in comic books, like like they are just so

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00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: creative with the lettering. Texts will come up like on

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00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: the street, like like in neon lights and neon lights,

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00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: like on the windows as they walk by. It super

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Speaker 1: fun and creative.

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Speaker 2: It's unlike it is really I know people say this

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00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: a lot and like, but this really does feel different

622
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: from any Marvel show, not just because the tone and

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00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: the charming kind of kid friendliness of it all, but

624
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: that visual aesthetic and camera walk is like very unique.

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00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: It's really really really fun. Like visually speaking, it's easily

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00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: the most interesting of the Marvel.

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00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 2: Disney believe just like unquestionable.

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Speaker 1: Super fun. Okay. In the hallway of school, we see Kamala,

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Speaker 1: you know, walking through her school, and we see that

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00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: she is basically like a classic nerd kind of an

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00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: outsider character, though she does have her friend group that

632
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: includes her best friend Bruno, who is just a genius

633
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: level inventor, and then Nakia, who is just like a

634
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: super cool girl at school, really really fun supportive friend group.

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00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: Kamala somehow can't walk the hallways without bumping literally into everybody.

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00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 1: She's like she's knogging to everyone, having to apologize to everyone,

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00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: and finally she knocks into Jersey City cool girl influencer Zoe,

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00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: who has I think they said like eight thousand followers

639
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: on some social media platform that is not that is.

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00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: I think it's like, I think it's like hundreds of thousands.

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Speaker 1: I think they said one hundred thousand, but it's less.

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Speaker 1: I think that they might have been to one hundred thousand.

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00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: I think she gets to it, but whatever the case,

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00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: Zoe is super super cool and Kamala bumps into her,

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00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: and then Kamala tries to compliment Zoe, but it goes

646
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: very awkwardly, and then all of a sudden, the PA

647
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: comes to life and it's mister Wilson, Kamala's guidance counselor,

648
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: who's like, come on, please come to the principal's office.

649
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: You're in big trouble, just kidding, which is like so embarrassing.

650
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: Don't do this. If you're a guys schouler, don't like,

651
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: please don't do that.

652
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: When you're when you're like our rage, you're like, this

653
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 2: is so charming, Like I love.

654
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: This guy at school'd be like, hey, this is the

655
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: last day of my life, like I don't want to

656
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: go on anymore. Mister Wilson, Oh sorry.

657
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 2: Oh, I was just gonna say. You hear the name

658
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: mister Wilson and you think, oh, that must be a

659
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: reference to Gila Wilson.

660
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: Yes, co create and.

661
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: It is because when you go in his office where

662
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: we get to next, there is a name on his

663
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 2: table and it says g. W. Wilson. And that's really

664
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: love that.

665
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: Uh So, mister Wilson is a really, really cool guy.

666
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: He is quite dedicated to helping his students succeed, and

667
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: he's spending a lot of energy trying to connect emotionally

668
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: and intellectually Kamala and try to get her to stop

669
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: daydreaming as much but it and and to care about

670
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: like college admissions is a big you got to think

671
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: about that kind of stuff. But all of this, like

672
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: info dump, triggers Kamala's like anxiety. She shuts down, she

673
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: starts daydreaming. She's clearly got add and mister Wilson is like, listen,

674
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: you gotta put your feet on the ground. At some

675
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: point later after school, Kamala is canetching to Bruno about

676
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: Avengers Con and how it's gonna be, how is she

677
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: gonna convince her parents to let her go? And by

678
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: the way, this is the first Avengers Con ever. This

679
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: is a very historic event. You want to be there

680
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: for the first one ever. And they've been working on

681
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: Kamala's Captain Marvel cosplay, and this is all gonna be

682
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: for nothing, And so that Bruno has a plan, and

683
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: it's this brilliant, very very sophisticated plan of just ask

684
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: your parents if you can go, which is great. And

685
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: by the way, like pause here. As a child of immigrants,

686
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: this all of this stuff hit like the cultural differences,

687
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: trying to bridge the gap between like the people you're

688
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: growing up around and what your parents expect and the

689
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: things that they expected from you when they came here,

690
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: all the hopes and dreams that they had, the culture

691
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: that they come from, and trying to explain like all

692
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: these weird things to them that they have no basis

693
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: for understanding all of that stuff. All of the home

694
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: scenes just it felt like it was like, man, I

695
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: know what this is. I've had this conversation. I know

696
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: what this is. Back home, Kamala is watching Felicity when

697
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: her mom comes home carrying a box of old stuff

698
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: from Kamala's grandmother, who's been just basically offloading a bunch

699
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: of stuff as she gets older. In Miniva's words, she

700
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: probably just wants to get rid of all this stuff

701
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: before she dies. In there is a bunch of jewelryes

702
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: and pictures and stuff, and then this very ornate bracelet,

703
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: which Kamala is immediately drawn to, and then which Miniva

704
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: snatches in a way that suggests that there's a story

705
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: there like this thing for whatever reason, that's junk, she says.

706
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: The bracle goes back in, the box of backs goes

707
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: into the attic, and Kamala goes off to company a

708
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,479
Speaker 1: mom on a bunch of errands on the excursion. Again

709
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: we get a feel for Kamala's experience as a child

710
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: of immigrants, and all the family stuff is like great, great.

711
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: Something I really loved, And this was like the visual

712
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: aesthetic is there for everything, but something I thought was

713
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: so cool that we don't really see in stories like

714
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: this are about like immigrant families. They don't try and

715
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: make it like this is like a gretty real look

716
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 2: like the heart is what gives it the authenticity heart.

717
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: Everything is so stylized in the funnest way, like that

718
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: montage of when they go to like the Jersey cities,

719
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: like South Asian neighborhood is just so beautiful and vibrant.

720
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: And they do that in this show a lot where

721
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: it's like this is a story about like a young

722
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: Muslim girl who gets to be in this vibrant, kind

723
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: of fantastical, hyper real space. But it's ways grounded with

724
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: that like family story that feels really specific, which is

725
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: powerful but incredibly universal. I got so many texts from

726
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: people that's the place is saying like this was my parents,

727
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: that this is how they acted.

728
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: That's absolutely right. I mean you come to a place

729
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: when you read enough stories and you watch enough TV

730
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: and you try to create enough stories where you realize

731
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: that every family, no matter what culture they're from, basically

732
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: has the same kind of drives and incentives. They're all

733
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: they all want the best for their kids. They want

734
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: their kids to go to school and get an education.

735
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: You know, they want them to meet the right person.

736
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: Like all all. That's why, like sitcoms translate, that's why,

737
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, stories very often translate from place to place,

738
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: and this is a prime example of that, It's like, yes,

739
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: Kamala's family is from the a different culture maybe than

740
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: like the standard Scots, Irish Protestant white culture or you know,

741
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: but the things that they go through, the things that

742
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: they talk about are the same as any family anywhere,

743
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: any place. So back home, we see that Bruno is

744
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: very comfortable at the king House. He is beloved over there.

745
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: He's over there giving mister Khan a walkthrough on his

746
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: custom built voice activated Zuzu's system, which is like a

747
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: custom made Alexa which can it can turn off the lights,

748
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: It monitors various security cameras. It controls all the smart

749
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: home stuff in the home, which also Bruno has designed,

750
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: and the cool part about it is he has programmed

751
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: it to understand Urdu, so the Con family can speak

752
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: to it in their in their native language and feel

753
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: very comfortable doing so. Bruno then needles Kamal on his

754
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: way out, is like, did you ask your parents about

755
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: Avengers con? You gotta do it? Uh? And then she

756
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: does framing it if really again this is like as

757
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: a child of it regrets, this is exactly the way

758
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: you do it. You do it by saying, hey, my

759
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: friends want to do this it's really more a thing

760
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: that they want to do and I want to. So

761
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: Kamala frames it as really, this is a Bruno thing.

762
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: Andrew's like he wants to go, and you know, it's like,

763
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: I guess I want to go along with him. And

764
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: of course her parents have various problems with this, including

765
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: the presence of boys, the potential presence of alcohol, the

766
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: question of how late she's going to be out.

767
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 2: And they think it's a party. There's not really any

768
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 2: context like is this a party? Is she going to be?

769
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: Like?

770
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: It's it's really cute.

771
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: And then there's the question of what are you going

772
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: to wear? What are you wearing my Captain Marvel costume suits?

773
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: Too tight to medium? It's too tight. It is too tight,

774
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: too revealing. This whole thing is her m Kamala complains

775
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: that as an and again this is like a very

776
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: like if you've ever had every good friends or if

777
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: you were the child, you've seen a version of this conversation.

778
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: Kamala then complains, listen, Amir can go out and do

779
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: anything he wants and I can't do anything. I can't

780
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: go anywhere, I can't wear anything. I have to ask

781
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: permission to do everything. And then she storms off. Amir

782
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: comes to talk to her later in her room and

783
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: he basically agrees, listen, I'll lobby the parential units on

784
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: your behalf. And she then texts Bruno that bad news.

785
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: My parents said no. Next day, Kamala is putting on

786
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: her She's in her room. She's putting on her Captain

787
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: Marvel costume. She's experimenting with a sash to maybe make it,

788
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: make the silhouette look a little less form fitting, to

789
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: make it, you know, a little bit more palatable for

790
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: her parents maybe, and then Manievera comes in to announce

791
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: that guess what, you can go to the con but

792
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: there are conditions. What mainly those conditions are you have

793
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: to dress in a baggy Hulk costume. And also your

794
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: dad is also just as the Hulk and he's going

795
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: to go, and he's got green makeup and the whole thing.

796
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 1: There's too much together at the Avenger's cant.

797
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: I just want to say, yeah, I need think it

798
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: in context it because this scene broke my heart. Kamala's

799
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: mum made her a.

800
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: Costume, made a whole costume.

801
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: It was what she felt was her and her dad

802
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: comes into the room and he's like Hu and he's

803
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: dressed as a whole and he's painted green. Kamala very

804
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: understandably is like, no, this is terrible.

805
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: Fuck.

806
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: I know I'm old because that scene like broke my

807
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: heart and I was ready to like ground her.

808
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: I was like do you know?

809
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: I was like, do you know how rare it is

810
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: to have parents who would support you and love you

811
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: in something that they completely don't understand. That to me

812
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: was like so real and so heartbreaking. And I think

813
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: like they did a really great job of presenting just

814
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: how supportive her parents are in that moment, even if

815
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: it's in that own way.

816
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Usuf comes in full makeup, roaring like the hull,

817
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: I mean, ka smashing, howks smashing. Kamala is like hard no,

818
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: absolutely no, hard no, immediately no, and the parents are crestfallen.

819
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: They are heartbroken.

820
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: Ato' that is like crying.

821
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: He's literally crying. Later on, Bruno and Kamala meat on

822
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: the roof of the apartment, billing to just talk over

823
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: what what are they gonna do? Bruno we see as

824
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: a super supportive friend and and I would love it

825
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: if it would go maybe beyond friendship. But it is

826
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: also fine if it doesn't, like, is that gonna hurt

827
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: a little bit? You get the sense like Bruno would

828
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: be probably dinged in the heart place a little bit

829
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: if it doesn't go into beyond friendship. But he's happy

830
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: where it is. He just loves hanging out with his

831
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: friend Kamala. Uh And he tells her, listen, just because

832
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: there hasn't been a superhero who is a brown old

833
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: named Kamala who saves the world doesn't mean that it

834
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: won't happen yet. It doesn't mean that it won't happen

835
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: one day and that it wouldn't be you. And then

836
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: he gives her his new invention for her costume, which

837
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: is these photon gloves. These these really cool like light

838
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: up gloves that will simulate Captain Marvel's ability to project

839
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: energy from her hands. Totally totally cool. After school, Kamala

840
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: sees Dad fighting with the Zuzu, which gives her an

841
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: idea which she then shares with Bruno. The falling day

842
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: and it's your classic Ferris Bueller day off ruse, but

843
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: with twenty twenty technology and Bruno's incredible genius level know how,

844
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: Kamala will sneak out. They will then head off by

845
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: bike to Avengers Khan and then take the bus to

846
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: and we'll come back to this camp. Lehigh is the

847
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 1: place where Avengers kind of taking place, which is wild, okay.

848
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: And then Bruno's and then Bruno's smart home system will

849
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: allow them to monitor what the parents are doing and

850
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: also to cover for Kamala's absence by you know, projecting,

851
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: allowing Kamala to speak through a speaker which is in

852
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: her room and she'll be like, I'm getting changed. If

853
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: someone tries to come to the door, it can work.

854
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: They then they then will go to Avengers Con. Kamala

855
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: will win the contest. They will sneak back and no

856
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: one will ever be the wiser. It'll be perfect. Now,

857
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: Kamala just has to finish her costume and Bruno suggests, listen,

858
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 1: why don't you put a personal touch on it. Kamala

859
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: goes to the attic, she grabs a bracelet. Avengers Con.

860
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: The next day, Bruno and Kamala puts the planeto motion

861
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: and it goes off with several hitches, but it doesn't

862
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: many hitches. Many hitches, okay, like a lot of hitches,

863
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: a lot of bitches.

864
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: Can I just also say, like Okay, you know what

865
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: the hitches happened and the Camp Lee High. Let's talk

866
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: about that.

867
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So the brand number one hitch, the branch that

868
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: Kamala uses to get in and out of her second

869
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: floor window breaks. She lands on her back, is uninjured.

870
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: So already I'm very impressed with Kamala's sturdiness.

871
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: There is an implication in this episode. I agree that

872
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: there is a legacy Aura inhabited super heroic power.

873
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: That is that she lands and it should be a

874
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: hard landing and she's not hurt. So think about that.

875
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: Then if she loses her bike when they get on

876
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: the bus, but whatever, it's time to go. They then

877
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: arrive at Camp Lee High for the con and by

878
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: the way, the place looks great. You might remember, hi,

879
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: well is Kample High?

880
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: People don't know.

881
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: Camp Lee High is the place where Steve Rogers first

882
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: trained to become Captain America as part of the larger

883
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: Captain America training program, including all the other cadets who

884
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: he beat out to get the Super Soldier serum, and

885
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: then later years later, around twenty fourteen, the events of

886
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: the Winter Soldier Crisis. It is the place where Arnimzola

887
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: I am I'm sweet and the cruise missiles all the way.

888
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: Captain is the place where Artizola launches the cruise missile

889
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: at Natasha and Steve, who are who have just found

890
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: his uh the hard drives that he is on, and

891
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: the place blows up and now it looks great. Can't

892
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: believe it looks great now.

893
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: It's not just it doesn't only look great, but this

894
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: is like the best comic convention there's ever. I know,

895
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: I know it's not technically about comics, but it's the

896
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: best superhero convention.

897
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: It really is super super fun. Comic conventions magical, like

898
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: if you've ever been to it.

899
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: I've been to many conventions and they're all magical in

900
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: their own way, but they are all whether you're at

901
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: San Diego or whether you're a Zoomfest, they are all

902
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: really a giant room that has lots of tables with

903
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 2: people the slaying stuff, and if it's DC comics, it's

904
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 2: just a bigger table and then you have your holes

905
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 2: where you go and see stuff. But this is another

906
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 2: thing about the.

907
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: Production design and the world that they create for Kamala

908
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 3: to go into. I love that she is getting to

909
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 3: live in a dreamlike world where it's like this is

910
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 3: in your head what you imagine San Diego Como coom Woll.

911
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: Look, the displays are amazing. They have a huge meal near,

912
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: they have a like, ay have a giant like age.

913
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: They have Yeah, they have a Scotland Giant Man display.

914
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: They have like really cool T shirts and including like

915
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: an America's Ass T shirt, Like.

916
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: Is amazing, Like you are going to love those section.

917
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: It's so so fun. Oh and also we should add

918
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: camp Ley High is also the place where back in

919
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: the seventies cap Yeah, Tony Stark, as part of the

920
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: time heist, went back and stole the Infinity Stone, which

921
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: one is it's the Space Stone, right, stole the Space

922
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: Stone so that they could then you know, defeat Danis. Anyway,

923
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: place looks great. Now it's time for the Captain Marvel

924
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: cosplay contest, but disaster has struck. Zoe is there in

925
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies Carol Danvers costume with the shorts and

926
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: the high boots and the little sash and she's not

927
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: even a Captain Marvel fan, but there she is. And

928
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: now Kamala is like fuck, I'm gonna lose. But like

929
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: Bruno's like listen, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it,

930
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: just get suited up. Kamala goes into the bathroom. She

931
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 1: suits up, but she forgets Bruno's Photon gloves. She rushes out,

932
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: slips the bracelet on. Bruno's like, where's the gloves. She's like,

933
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, and he's like, don't worry about it,

934
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: just get the bracelet on. She gets the bracelet on,

935
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: and immediately there's like a corona of really interesting energy

936
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: that is just like surrounding her body that nobody else

937
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: notices but her. She takes the stage, everybody's looking at her.

938
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: Her anxiety builds, her nervousness peaks, and all of a sudden,

939
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: accidentally she has triggered this blast of energy kind of

940
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: like a solid crystallized light thing from the bracelet. She

941
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: accidentally blasts the head off the aforementioned Scott Lang Giant

942
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: Man statue, causing it to fall off go rolling dangerously

943
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: across the corn floor, much like the boulder in Indiana Jones.

944
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: Zoe is like, holy shit, I'm impressed, But meanwhile the

945
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: entire con is falling apart, and Zoe's being impressed quickly

946
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: ceases when she is struck by the giant sized mule

947
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: ner that sends her sailing into a wall of fake clouds.

948
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: Kamala catches her and making a hand out of the

949
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: energy from her bracelet.

950
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 2: Which looks like her comic book package.

951
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: The ambig in hand, much like in the comic books.

952
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: It's a very cool moment. And then Bruno Kamala like,

953
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: we gotta get the fuck out of what is happening.

954
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened.

955
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what is happening. It is, of course,

956
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: a dream come true. This is what she's been daydreaming

957
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: about for years, ever since the Emergency Avengers. She has powers,

958
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: but they're very scary. She has no idea what's going on.

959
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: She doesn't know how to use them and how she

960
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: got them, and show her how she got them. And

961
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: right now, at this moment, what she's got to do

962
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: is get back in her house. Brun is like, don't worry,

963
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell anyone. This is incredible development,

964
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: of course, but I'm not going to tell anyone. Secrets.

965
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: Safe with me, PS, I love you. Back in her room,

966
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: Kamala finds bad news. Your mom is there, and by

967
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: the way, this is anybody's ever snuck out, Yeah, she's

968
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: waiting in the class. Supervision is funniest.

969
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: This is another really great bit of visual storytelling. They

970
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: show like the time when Kamala climbs back in the

971
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: window and it's like eight foy teenager and the mom's

972
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 2: then she's waiting like every mom in every real house

973
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: and every teen movie house and every TV show house.

974
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 2: She's waiting in the dark. She's in your room and

975
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: she knows you want that. Now.

976
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: Mom is very, very upset, and in this conversation we

977
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: again get these kind of hints that that Kamala's nanny,

978
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: her grandmother, it was potentially definitely owned this bracelet, and

979
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: probably whatever it is that Kamala is experiencing now because

980
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: of these we're just going to call them the quantum bands,

981
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: that her grandparent was wielding them as well, and that

982
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: whatever that experience was like for the rest of the family,

983
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: her mom is scared and doesn't like it. And of

984
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: course beyond that, Uniba's just bitterly disappointed and her daughter

985
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: who has lied to her and tricked her and has

986
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: rejected their help and etcetera, etcetera. All these hopes and

987
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: dreams that they have for her. And here is Kamala

988
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: being this secretive, lying person who's going to these parties

989
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: that she shouldn't be going to, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. And

990
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: she poses a question, do you want to be our daughter?

991
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: Do you want to be like a normal person, good student,

992
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: or do you want to be like this daydreamer, cosmic

993
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: powers person with your heads up in the with your

994
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: head in the clouds. She leaves. Kamala lays in bed,

995
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 1: her hand glowing with this newfound power, and then she says,

996
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: of course cosmic. She wants the cosmic. And then we

997
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: go to the Stinger. We get some credits. We go

998
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: to the Stinger and the offices of the Department of

999
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: Damage Control. Agent Deaver is showing our old friend, agent

1000
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: Cleary a video of the most recent happenings at Avengers Con, saying,

1001
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: I've never seen powers like this. We got powered people

1002
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: popping up all the time, but this is a new one.

1003
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: Bring her in, Cleary says, And it's pretty cool that

1004
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: damage Control is going to be I would imagine a big,

1005
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: a big part of this series. And we're we're on

1006
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: to episode two next week. Now, I thought again, I

1007
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: thought this was really fun. And it's clear that these

1008
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: are the quantum bands or something like the quantum bands,

1009
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: But my question is this, where's the other one? Okay?

1010
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 2: So this, I think something that I thought was so

1011
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: well seated hit. When Maniehba is in that conversation with Kamala,

1012
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: she says, you know, don't get stuck in these fantasies,

1013
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: like that is dangerous. Yeah, and she talks about Nannie

1014
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 2: and I think there's this really interesting thing that they're

1015
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: positioning here, which is this idea that Nanny had the powers,

1016
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: that she had the quantum bands, and nobody in her

1017
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: family believed her right and they thought she.

1018
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: Was crazy and she's the protector of the universe and they're.

1019
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: Like sure, and it's like the nineteen twenties or something,

1020
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: you know, Like, I think that is really powerful. And

1021
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: I think even though we've had all our theories about

1022
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: the power changes, I love the way they did it.

1023
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: And I think the official Marvel line is like it

1024
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: aligns her more with the Marvels who are going to

1025
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: kind of be her. And to me, I just thought

1026
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: it was really cool looking. But this theory and this

1027
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: kind of story about it being a family legacy that

1028
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: really speaks to me. I think that the other band

1029
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: is somewhere already in Kamala's home, and they had been

1030
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: split up to keep them apart, and maybe the mom

1031
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 2: had been because I'm assuming if this is a legacy situation,

1032
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: I would assume that at some point Narni had tried

1033
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: to share that power with Kamala's mum and that wasn't

1034
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: something which she did, So I wouldn't be surprised if

1035
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 2: the other band is closer than we think, because it's

1036
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: been there to be to keep them separate, and now

1037
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 2: they're both in the space of Kamala and I just

1038
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: I thought this was so cool. I love the show.

1039
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: I love the way it used comic art and like, yeah,

1040
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: sure she makes animated videos, but she's obviously a cartoonist.

1041
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 2: It pays homage to the stuff before. They had a

1042
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: little wall plaque that shouted out other people who've worked

1043
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: on MS Marvel, like Gee Willowilson again, you know, Jamie McKelvey,

1044
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: all these great people, Adrian Lphoner, Like, I love the

1045
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: way that they're paying homage to the art form and

1046
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: I'm really excited, like I cannot wait to see this.

1047
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: It was closed it's a super fun show. And as

1048
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: we learn learn more about the what we again assume

1049
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: to be the quantum bands, we'll do it. We'll do

1050
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: a deep dive into just what those are in the

1051
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: in the comics version. Up next, Obi wan Kenobe Part four,

1052
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: Obi wan Kenobe Part four. We open on the ship

1053
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: to Jabeim. Our good friend Ben is He's he's hurt,

1054
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: real bad. He's in agony. His right arm and shoulder

1055
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: look like bad pizza. Tala planks Obi in the back

1056
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: to tank and as he's marinating in there, he has

1057
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: visions of Vader their duel. These memories play again and

1058
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: again and Ben's pain addled mind. And then when Obi

1059
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: finally emerges, guess what you're there? We're here, We're on Jabeim.

1060
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: Where's Leah? He asks? Guess where she is? Real bad place?

1061
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: She's at Fortress Inquisitorious on the water world or which

1062
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: is a moon in the Mustafar system aka Darth Vader's backyard.

1063
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: Riva is beginning the process of interrogating Leah in order

1064
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: to discover what she knows about the Path, what she

1065
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: knows just about Jedi in general. Leah resists, insisting that

1066
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: Obi Wan. My friend Obi Wan is gonna come, is

1067
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: gonna come rescue me. And then Riva tells the young princess, Haha,

1068
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: your friend and guardian is Ben is dead. Nobody's coming

1069
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: for you. And this is a good reminder to all

1070
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: of you out there that on on Fortress inquisitorious and

1071
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: here on earth, the cops are legally allowed to lie

1072
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: to you, they say, and they can just lie. They

1073
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: can lie and don't talk without your lawyer. Here is

1074
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: Reva at it again. She's lying like.

1075
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: Leah, don't say nothing, don't say gee. Throughout the show

1076
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 2: she's saying nothing.

1077
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: Don't speak until my lawyer arrives. On Joban, which is

1078
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: which we learn, is a hub of this kind of

1079
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: like nascent uh rebellion. It's a hub of the path.

1080
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: It's a major stop on the path. Tala introduces Ben

1081
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: to Rokean played by Osha Jackson. Rocan is like, Ben,

1082
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: get this fucking guy out of here. Get this Jedi

1083
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: on the run out of here. It's obviously dangerous. He's

1084
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: got Darth Vader looking for him, he's got the Inquizors

1085
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: looking for him, and we and if they come here,

1086
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: there's no way we can stop them and we'll all die.

1087
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: You got to get him out of here. Ben is like, no,

1088
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: but Lea, you know, like I got to find the girl,

1089
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And then from and

1090
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: then we learned that Rocan clearly knows very clearly who

1091
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: obi wan Kenobe is. He says, general, that's not my problem,

1092
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: which suggests that Rokean was like somehow in the know

1093
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: during the era of the Clone Wars, like knew what

1094
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: obi wan Kenobe was up to during that time. Tala insists,

1095
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: like this rescue is important. Leah knows too much about

1096
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: our operation. Get her out of there. Ben tells Rokean, then, hey,

1097
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: you have no idea what the empire is capable of.

1098
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: An obviously ridiculous statement.

1099
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 2: Gay, he didn't even know doff Mada. He isn't.

1100
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: He's in a lot of pain and he's just been

1101
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: he's just come out of the back this so I

1102
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: will cut him some slack, give him a little grace.

1103
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: But it is a ridiculous thing to say to a

1104
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: guy who is like helping to manage a escape route

1105
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: for dissident forced sensitives and others, and is clearly like

1106
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: at at great peril from the imperial forces like day, morning, noon,

1107
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: and night, like of course he knows like what the

1108
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: Empire is capable of, and then Broken proceeds to tell

1109
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: Ben like listen, the uh my wife. And here he

1110
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: suggests that she was a force sensitive person. He says

1111
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: something to the effect of, like, my wife, I knew

1112
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,439
Speaker 1: what she was. She knew what she was. We tried

1113
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: to hide it. But the Empire found her and and

1114
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: they and they took her, but and then they killed her.

1115
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: But did they? Here's what don pause and stop. Here

1116
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: is is Reva Roken's what, Oh my god, could you imagine?

1117
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: That would be unbelievable?

1118
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: Is and is this why the other inquisitors are like,

1119
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: you're like really a piece of shit, like your scum

1120
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: you're you know, because she was more even more tightly

1121
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: tied to this kind of like dissident, this fomenting rebellion

1122
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: movement than we previously knew of.

1123
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 2: Is it that? Yeah, we had actually spoken pretty extensively

1124
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 2: about why they don't like her, and it felt very

1125
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: real to us that part of that reason would be

1126
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: because she had climbed higher in the Jedi or become

1127
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 2: closer to a rebellion. Now if now, Reva would really

1128
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 2: be having bad luck if she was one of those

1129
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 2: opening Padawans and then had managed to find love with

1130
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 2: someone who wasn't rejecting.

1131
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: Her and then been captured by the Encaracter.

1132
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 2: By the inquisitors. But you know what, it's tough times living.

1133
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: In Star Wars. Now, it would be a young couple

1134
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: to get married, as you know. But that being said,

1135
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: that happens all the time in Star Wars. Owen and

1136
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: Brew we're very young, like Anakin and Anakin and Padme,

1137
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: we're very young, like especially him. Yes, especially in the

1138
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: reality of Star Wars. Couples get together, they fly. There's

1139
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: not a lot of dating around. Han Solo accepted, even

1140
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: though all we know of is like two people and

1141
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: Hansolo's Roman expanded universe.

1142
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 2: I think like he was. There was a time when

1143
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 2: Leo was gonna get married someone else, so then he

1144
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: had to go and get her. So there's like lots

1145
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 2: of marriage drama, and it happens young. I believe. I

1146
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 2: love this idea.

1147
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: All of which is to say, you know, pay attention

1148
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: to the Reva. The arguments Reva uses on Lea as

1149
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: the interrogation continues, your friends they've abandoned you. I'm the

1150
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,919
Speaker 1: only one that cares, YadA YadA, and you can if

1151
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: uh Reva is Roken's one time partner, you could see

1152
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: that very argument being used on her in conjunction with

1153
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: brutal torture to turn her into a person who on

1154
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,439
Speaker 1: some level believes that her friends and her loved ones

1155
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: abandon her to her fate with the Empire.

1156
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, she sounds like someone who is brainwashed, and she is.

1157
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 2: Most of Ingram's doing a very good job of selling this,

1158
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: like constantly on the brink of knowing what you're doing

1159
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 2: is terrible, but needing it to all mean something.

1160
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: So Rocan agrees to help, and so Roken flanked by

1161
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: Wade and Sully played by Maya Erskin. My Erskin is

1162
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: not Doctor Afra, just the cover story. Maya Erskine is

1163
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: somehow named is somehow a sci fi character named Sully,

1164
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: as if this was a sequel to the Town Start

1165
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: Ben haf or.

1166
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: It's just like a reboot of that. The Tomak's pilot movie.

1167
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: So Broken then runs Ben and Tala through a PowerPoint

1168
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: of Fortress Inquisitorious. So good news, Vader is probably not

1169
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: on Mustafar or Newer and he is likely on his ship.

1170
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: However the ship is like in the area of Mustafar apparently.

1171
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: Now I want to stop here. This raises an interesting question,

1172
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: how the fuck do this? How about this broken nough Like?

1173
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: Who are his sources? This network is is very very back,

1174
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: is very legit, and I do how do they have

1175
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: eyes on Vader's ship that they can have intelligence on that?

1176
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: This is actually really interesting to think about.

1177
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: Why. I wonder I think something I mean, I think

1178
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: something they did that was really small was introducing Indra

1179
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 2: Varma's character and having showing that there are high level

1180
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: people in the end the left. Yes, so, but what

1181
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 2: I want to know, we know that there's not like

1182
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 2: so many cool people in the empire just want to

1183
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 2: do a rebellion. Yeah, I wonder if those sources of

1184
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 2: people who want to take down Vader and stop his

1185
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 2: obsession with Obi Wan more than they want to help

1186
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 2: the rebels, do.

1187
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1188
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 2: Like that balance that is political we know from.

1189
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: The particularly from the Darth Vader series, in particular the

1190
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: Charles Seul series, which is the twenty seventeen Darth Vader.

1191
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: So Darth Vader twenty fifteen is Darth Vader after the

1192
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: Battle of the Yabon twenty seventeen, Darth Vader is Darth

1193
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: Vader in the first like year onward of him putting

1194
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: on the suit. Wow, it's incredible how he how he

1195
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: corrupts the Kyber crystal to get the red Blade, all

1196
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: the stuff, how he makes, how he tweaks his suit,

1197
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: his battle with Moment, etc. Et Like, how he builds

1198
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: Fortress Vader on Mustafar, all of that stuff. And then

1199
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: the current ongoing which I think again in twenty twenty,

1200
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: which is is Vader after the events of Empire strikes Back.

1201
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: So all of which is to say, we know from

1202
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:37,560
Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen series that the Empire in general, the

1203
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: shot callers within the Empire are very very distrustful slash

1204
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:48,560
Speaker 1: jealous of the pole Vader has and his position, to

1205
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: his closeness to the Emperor, and there's just a lot

1206
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: of forces that are constantly looking to either undercut Vader,

1207
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 1: maybe assassinate him, get him out of the wage. It's like,

1208
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: get closer to the Emperor so they can be closer

1209
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: to that font of power. So that would not surprise

1210
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 1: me what you said if there is if there are

1211
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: other imperial forces that are there are machinations going on

1212
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: that other people looking to conspire against Vader for reasons

1213
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: that aren't necessarily we want to help the rebellion, you know.

1214
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 2: Hm.

1215
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: We find out that Fortress Inquisitorious juts out of the

1216
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: surface of neurous vastsy and no one knows how far

1217
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: down it goes. No one knows really what's in the

1218
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: base itself. The base is unshielded, which is in part because,

1219
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: as Broken says, no one, no one is dumb enough

1220
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: to go there, and it's unshielded because you know, let's see,

1221
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: it makes it easier for our friends to get in there, yes,

1222
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: which I appreciate.

1223
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 2: This is absolute classical Star Wars. Star Wars, there is

1224
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 2: always a ridiculous role in any security and it is

1225
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 2: narratively often explained away like the arrogance of the Sith

1226
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 2: of the Empire of Vader. But it is also it's

1227
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 2: just classic everything. There's always an easy way a trash shoot.

1228
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 2: You know, there's a secret, there's a guess what in

1229
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 2: this giant space station. There's this one particular bit where

1230
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 2: if you shoot it, the whole thing will block. Seems

1231
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 2: like that was bad, but you know what, that's what

1232
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: happened with the Death Star. So and they do it again.

1233
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 2: So I think that this is I actually thought this

1234
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 2: was like a very fun tradition nod you know this

1235
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 2: like you can't have good security. But what this show

1236
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 2: does really well is they build it in a place

1237
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: that looks terrifying, that looks ominous, that is in the

1238
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: middle of an ocean. So it's like it's an Alcatrazi

1239
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 2: type situation. You can understand what they were thinking.

1240
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: But I want to take a moment, since you mentioned

1241
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: the death start to to to tip tip our cap

1242
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: to Galen or so so and the rest of the

1243
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 1: heroes of the Battle of Scariff for all of their

1244
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,520
Speaker 1: all of their important, for their important and crucial sacrifice

1245
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: in obtaining the Death Star plans. Okay, so they see

1246
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: the schematics, you know, all the information that they have

1247
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: for fortress inquisitories, and like Ben starts pitching ideas, Okay,

1248
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: what about we go in at night T forty seven speeders,

1249
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: we speed in boom, We're in the T forty seven.

1250
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: Very interestingly, this is again this is like pre Rebel

1251
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: Alliance stuff. So the T forty seven at this time

1252
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: is just used to haul sewage and trash, much like

1253
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 1: much like the Moncalamari battleships during the Rebel Alliance days

1254
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: were previously just you know, ships that flew cargo from

1255
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: place to place like they were to later be outfitted

1256
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: for military purposes. But this time they they're not that. So,

1257
01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, Sully is like, wait, a, Sey, you know,

1258
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 1: we're not soldiers, we're not outfitted for like a military raids.

1259
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: But a Ben of course won't take no for an answer.

1260
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: He is going in whether they help him or not.

1261
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: And Tala is like, listen, as an imperial officer, let

1262
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: me go in. I will be your person on the inside.

1263
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: On Tala's ship, which, by the way, let me read

1264
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: this first and then we'll unpack this. So on Tala's ship,

1265
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: her imperial military craft, Tala and Ben are talking about

1266
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: how much Laya means to Ben already, and it's clear

1267
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: that he's in a weakened state with regards to the force.

1268
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 1: He can barely move small objects around, but he is

1269
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 1: fiercely determined to do this. Now let me talk about

1270
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: this ship. So on Mapuso, the plan was we get out,

1271
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 1: We're going to meet somebody who's gonna fly us to Jabim, right,

1272
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: But then you know, Ben stopped to draw Vader. Tala

1273
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: went to help him, and then uh, Lea got to

1274
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel and it was Riva there,

1275
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 1: not the pilot, and then they went off. But then

1276
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: Tala gets been out on her imperial ship. Why why

1277
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: weren't we just flying everybody out on the ship.

1278
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 2: Was this a ship that they stole?

1279
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: Now, But now here's the thing. You could say that, okay,

1280
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: well that's her imperial ship and then they would know.

1281
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: But like she gets the fortress inquisitorious and nobody's like, hey, there's.

1282
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 2: No security that just like oh yeah, good to see you.

1283
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 2: I mean as again classic Star Wars. Can you like

1284
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 2: do a funny voice over radio thing, Hello, Hello, I

1285
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 2: have like a really important like space delivery.

1286
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 1: Okay, oh come on in, I listen. I understand. It

1287
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: was stressful. Darth Vader was there. We were all super scared,

1288
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 1: but like Tala, let's just take just take the ship off,

1289
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: jump like don't yeah, take Lea. Meanwhile, Reva's interrogation of

1290
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: Leah continues. She is now bearing down hard on the

1291
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: question of the path. What is it who is taking

1292
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 1: the path? What do you know about it?

1293
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: Uh?

1294
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: Leah asks, you know, trying to buy time to Ben die,

1295
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: and Reval lies again he burned to death on Mapuozoh.

1296
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: I remind you the cops can lie to you, and

1297
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: then she continues with this pitch, clearly the same type

1298
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: of argument that was used on her. Hey, the people

1299
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: who I'm looking for left your friend Ben Kenobi there

1300
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: to die. I'm your friend now, I am the one

1301
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: who's like here to support you. All you need to

1302
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: do is tell me what you know and you can

1303
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: go home.

1304
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 3: That's it.

1305
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: You don't have to do that. You just go home.

1306
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. But Lea is not a snitch.

1307
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: She's not a stitch now she will be a snitch

1308
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: during a new Hope. Never fine, Reva says, and as

1309
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: she begins to tug the gloves off her hands. Meanwhile,

1310
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: Tala has dropped Ben somewhere in the Sea of Nore.

1311
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 1: She lands at Fortress Inquisitorious. No problem landing here, she

1312
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: manages to bluff her way through security despite being like

1313
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: in the wrong system, the wrong sector, not supposed to

1314
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: be on this planet. She says, listen, I'm carrying crucial

1315
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: classified intelligence. You want to be the one to tell

1316
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: the Grand Inquisitor or whoever else that you stopped important

1317
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: intelligence from getting to them, Like I wouldn't want to

1318
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: be you, And so they let her in. Tala finds

1319
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: an empty seated a controlled terminal and just used to work.

1320
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: Everybody's just like fine, I guess, but this is actually

1321
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: like when you work in an extremely toxic and scary

1322
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: workplace where like people can just force choke you at

1323
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: any time because you made a mistake, or not even

1324
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 1: that you didn't even make a mistake, just something happened.

1325
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: I would imagine that a lot of people are just like, man,

1326
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put my head down and I'm not

1327
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,560
Speaker 1: gonna if I see a weird thing. It's none of

1328
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: my business. I'm just working.

1329
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 2: I feel like this is like a lot of the

1330
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: new era of Star Wars has done this. There's a

1331
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: great moment in the Last Jedi that I think about

1332
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 2: a lot. This feels like one of those things that

1333
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 2: connects to kind of how fans think and talk about

1334
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 2: this stuff, and that is because fans are making it

1335
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 2: at this stage, you know. But like a lot of

1336
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 2: what we think about when we make jokes about star

1337
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 2: Wars or things that, you know, think about that SNL

1338
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 2: sketch with like Kylo ren right, that become a boss.

1339
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 2: A lot of the stuff we've always talked about is

1340
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 2: like what is it to just be like a worker

1341
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 2: or and start Why didn't they put why didn't they

1342
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 2: put rails next to our the ships?

1343
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: And it's.

1344
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 2: Exactly and in this way, I feel like this kind

1345
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 2: of ties into that. And something I think is really

1346
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 2: interesting is we're like watching like the Yeah, sure it's

1347
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 2: been a long time, but it's still the early ish

1348
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 2: days of like this organization, and I kind of love

1349
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 2: the idea that it's just kind of like a terrible

1350
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 2: office job. That's always been like really funny. And one

1351
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 2: of my that moment I was thinking about from the

1352
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 2: Last Jedi is like when Kylo Renz like going like

1353
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 2: batship with the lightsabers smashing everything up and the two

1354
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 2: stormtroopers and then.

1355
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm just listen, I'm just trying to get I'm just

1356
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: waiting until my direct deposit drops and I can take

1357
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,839
Speaker 1: my PTO and just relax because it's exactly fucking scary.

1358
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: So at her a new workstation, Tala guides Obi Wan

1359
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: into the base and we see Ben under the water.

1360
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: And let me tell you that breaststroke which we first

1361
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 1: saw strong from during the Clone War days in the

1362
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: oceans and lakes of Naboo on the way to Gungan City,

1363
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: hasn't lost a stroke, a step, whatever you want to say.

1364
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 1: He is still a very very strong swimmer gets inside easily.

1365
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: Once inside, Ben starts taking out guards. Tala's guiding him

1366
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: towards Leya. Meanwhile, the interrogation continues. Riva is now mind

1367
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: probing the young princess. However, Leah, as we know Reva

1368
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: does not know. But we know Lea is strong with

1369
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 1: the force, and though she doesn't know exactly how to

1370
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: use it, it's clear that Reva is not getting any

1371
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: traction this way, even though it's taking some amount of

1372
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: exertion from Leyah to defend her off, but she is

1373
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: fending her off.

1374
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like a very interesting moment because I

1375
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 2: think you know a lot of the jokes we were

1376
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 2: cracking about the first three episodes, and like the conversations

1377
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,560
Speaker 2: on the internet were like, is Leyah showing force sensitivity?

1378
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 2: Is that how she's running away with her little short legs,

1379
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 2: Like and actually this is proof, Like she's so so stu.

1380
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 2: We saw Reava mind read Kamail's character, like in a second,

1381
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,560
Speaker 2: she knew everything, she knew where they were going, she

1382
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 2: knew the plan. Leia's just chilling given She's like, is

1383
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 2: this a staring contest?

1384
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: And is like, oh, Tama like strong, that she is tough.

1385
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: That was very very tough stuff. Lola, Leya's courageous little

1386
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 1: droid flies out to defend Leya, but Reva easily catches

1387
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: Lola and gives her a little insight into her upbringing

1388
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: her past. Says, you know, I had dedroid once, but

1389
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: like everything else, it was taken from me. Uh. At

1390
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:55,600
Speaker 1: her work station, Tala is pouring over the fortress schematics

1391
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: and she finds a massive, massive secure room deep deep

1392
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: down in fortress. Inquisitorious, what the hell is down there?

1393
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 1: Tala meanwhile continues to steer Obie toward Lea, but the

1394
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: root is just very very guarded. An imperial officer comes

1395
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: over and is like, who are you and what the

1396
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: fuck are you doing? Come over here and talk to

1397
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: me and this job. Yeah, and so Tala is forced

1398
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: to choke this guy out, which she does very ably

1399
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: and meanwhile, on his personal journey Ben, we see he

1400
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 1: is getting stronger worth the force. He is cornered, but

1401
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: he's able to do those little force sound distractions to

1402
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:39,560
Speaker 1: draw stormtroopers away from him. Reva is now going with

1403
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: the carrot approach. Hey, only you can save yourself, So

1404
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: tell me where the insurgents are. Me and you are

1405
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: on the same side, like, you know, like I understand

1406
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: what you're going through. I can help you. Everybody else

1407
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 1: turn their backs on you. They don't care about you.

1408
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: Ben's gone, nobody cares about you. I care about you.

1409
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: Leia is like, okay, you know what, as long as

1410
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: you promise that no one's gonna get a hurt. And

1411
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: Rea's like, yeah, no one's gonna hurt totally really okay,

1412
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: I will tell you what I know. Yeah, yeah, great, okay, cool, cool, cool.

1413
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: I just need to first clear it with my dad.

1414
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: Bail Or gone off of Alduron. Can I talk to

1415
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: him first? Uh? He's kind of a big deal, you know,

1416
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: on Aldron, and like within the Senate, which has now

1417
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 1: been kind of neutered and has its legs cut out,

1418
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: but still like an important figure in the galaxy. And

1419
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 1: but of course like we're all on this big Imperial team, right,

1420
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: and it'd be no problem telling my dad where I'm at.

1421
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 1: And Reva's like, good try kid, Now it's time for

1422
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: the torture droids. Ben finds the secure sector that Tala

1423
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 1: was wondering over, and this is a huge revelation. It

1424
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: is like a tomb slash trophy room of Jedi who

1425
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: either were thought dead or disappeared during the event, the

1426
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: chaotic events of Order sixty six, or survived but then

1427
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: people lost track of And let's see who's in there.

1428
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 1: There is Terra Sinoube trapped in every that's the very

1429
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: first person that that Ben season. Of course we know

1430
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 1: him from the Clone Wars. There is Coleman Caj who

1431
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: was a fucking member of the Jedi Council back of

1432
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: the day. Like that's a crazy get for them. And

1433
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:31,560
Speaker 1: there's many others, including a young Potawan still wearing his

1434
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: training helmet and a look of absolute fear on his face,

1435
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: which I mean, I don't. The feeling here, at least

1436
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 1: for me, was like, Wow, they got this kid on

1437
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 1: the night of Order sixty six.

1438
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 2: You're meant to feel like that might have even been

1439
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 2: the first Yeah, the first Trophy. There was this crazy

1440
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 2: the face is so scary. There was this Brandon Cronenberg

1441
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: like Cronenberg Sonny made this movie called Possessa recently, and

1442
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 2: the fa in that it's like this weird like mask

1443
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 2: you wear over your real face, and this is what

1444
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 2: that looks like. Like I was looking at the eyes.

1445
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,600
Speaker 2: It's it's really grotesque and sad and also to me

1446
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 2: implies that it's older than the rest of them, like

1447
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 2: it hasn't it hasn't stayed up.

1448
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: Now, It's not like a healthy Now what could they

1449
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: be doing? Right? I listen, we know that Palpi, Daddy

1450
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: Palpi loves to clone. This guy loves cloning. He loves

1451
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: he absolutely loves a fucking clone. I think there's some

1452
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: cloning shit going on down here.

1453
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:37,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely. And they are always as always, you know, those midichlorians.

1454
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 2: That's something you can test in a bloodstream. Baby, they're

1455
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 2: trying to see, they want to know. They're like, what's

1456
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 2: the force? How do you get it? How do you

1457
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 2: control it? How do you make clones that have the force?

1458
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 2: How can you make people that just be choking people out?

1459
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 2: This is really fun because they do a lot of

1460
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 2: like still shots and there's definitely. I mean, they have

1461
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 2: one woman who's got like long red hair and she's

1462
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 2: in this fancy red dress and I was like, oh

1463
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 2: my god, it's Mara j Like it's definitely not mar

1464
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 2: Jade from the Expanded Universe. But they have a lot

1465
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 2: of fun with those visuals. But yeah, I agree, this

1466
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 2: is absolutely a kind of sick trophy room of people

1467
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 2: that probably Anakin help yeah, or does it specifically call

1468
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 2: get it? Yeah, Like Palpatine like, you should do this

1469
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 2: for yourself. It will make you feel good. And really,

1470
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 2: Palpatine's like sucking some blood out so that he can

1471
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 2: like be reborn in a creepy tentacle machine. In like

1472
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 2: fifty years, Reva.

1473
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: Is now booting up the torture system. She went to

1474
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,759
Speaker 1: tell me, you're gonna tell me what I want to know, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

1475
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: As the torture machine moves into Visius and let me

1476
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: here's a small note for the Empire. I'm anti torture,

1477
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: as I'm sure Rosier is. I'm sure all our listeners are.

1478
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,799
Speaker 1: It's bad, it's terrible, it should not be done. It's barbaric,

1479
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: it's medieval, etcetera. Empire. You gotta your torture machines move

1480
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: too slow to does it tip? Why does it take

1481
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes to boot up the fucking torture machine? Tell me,

1482
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: I guess that's it. But it's like it takes wherever

1483
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: the warm up.

1484
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 2: It's because like Leana's face is so small because she's

1485
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 2: a baby and just.

1486
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 1: Taking Hey, get me, get me the booster seat for

1487
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:27,839
Speaker 1: I get a booster seat for the torture magine.

1488
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 2: She puts her in this machine that's like a huge

1489
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 2: torture mri and Lana's so small in it, and she's

1490
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 2: got these little.

1491
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: Hang cars off.

1492
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 2: She's like, please, somebody help me. But she lost itchin.

1493
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 2: She doesn't care. She's she's gonna die. It's gonna go

1494
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 2: to the grave.

1495
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 1: Incredibly brave. This is where, man, I gotta tell you.

1496
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 1: If they're gonna do a turn back to the light

1497
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,719
Speaker 1: with Reva, it can't be a complete turn back because

1498
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: this is too far. I can't watch you torture child,

1499
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 1: Princess Leah. But okay, I understand, we didn't get there. Okay, No,

1500
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: she was gonna like you were on the way, you know,

1501
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 1: you're on the way to Georgier.

1502
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 2: I feel like our theory of the the ton is

1503
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 2: is likely because like so of course Obi wan overhears

1504
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh my god, I need to help Leah,

1505
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 2: the little baby screaming in there, and so he's like, Tala,

1506
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 2: make a distraction, and she goes and distracts Reava just

1507
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,600
Speaker 2: as it's about to be torture and the eyeballs, and

1508
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 2: I feel like Moses and the writers, there is a

1509
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 2: moment of relief. You can see it that she knew

1510
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 2: she was about.

1511
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,560
Speaker 1: She didn't want to, she didn't want to do it,

1512
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: but she was gonna do it.

1513
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:38,560
Speaker 2: This is she's gonna do it.

1514
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: More on this in a bit. So, okay, you mentioned that,

1515
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: uh that uh there Ben asks for distraction. He's his

1516
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: force sensitivity is growing. He is able to feel Leah's

1517
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: distress and he knows now where she is in the complex,

1518
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 1: and he tells Tala to make a distraction. Tala does

1519
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: gets a message to Riva. Hey, there's important a message

1520
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: for you out here, and I was told to give

1521
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: it to you directly, and that you gotta I understand

1522
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: that the torture machine is almost all the way booted.

1523
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 2: Up, but now you have to come in. Now.

1524
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 1: You have to power it down again. You have to

1525
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 1: power it all the way down to come out to

1526
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: talk to this person. So Reva goes out and she

1527
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 1: sees Tala, and Tala is like, hey, great, you're the

1528
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: person I've been waiting to talk to. I have this

1529
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: classified information. I came from a pouzo. I know all

1530
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 1: the shit about this that's going on with the path

1531
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 1: they're using. Uh, they're on Florum. They're using a garbage

1532
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: salvage company as cover. So basically they're like the Sopranos

1533
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: in space. It sounds really believable. Do you believe me?

1534
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 2: I wasn't watching this and Tala.

1535
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: And then Tala's like, and you know what else we

1536
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 1: should do? We should like strike at Fluorum, and just

1537
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 1: like She's just like, by the root, let's do it.

1538
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: Let's go now exactly, let's let's come out of this

1539
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 1: torture room and let's go do it now.

1540
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 2: Everything She's like direct everything, and I'm like, babe, you

1541
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 2: oversold it.

1542
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: That was where was like yeah, really like I'll go yeah, yeah.

1543
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: He was like, you're lying. Meanwhile, Ben has managed to

1544
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: take out the Stormy's guarding Laya. The stormtroopers and he

1545
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 1: freeze the princess, and Leah's like, I knew Reava was

1546
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 1: lying about you being dead. I could feel it. And

1547
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: also I didn't say shit. And Ben is like, I

1548
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: love it. I said, you're the best.

1549
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 2: He's like, She's like, I didn't say anything, and he's like,

1550
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 2: I know it's I love that He's like he knows

1551
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 2: because guess what, she's not a snitch. I'll tell you

1552
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 2: who would have given up everyone in a second if

1553
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 2: he was in that torture chair. Obi wan Kenobi. This

1554
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 2: guy's been hiding in a chair for ten years, and

1555
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 2: this ten year old was like, never gonna happen. My

1556
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 2: dad taught me bad than that, I will die and

1557
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 2: be I.

1558
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: Mean, it's really a Laya's example that is bringing Ben

1559
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 1: back to the force and.

1560
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 2: Inspiring this rebellion. Like I love that context that they're

1561
01:27:57,240 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 2: adding here to their relationship and to the fact that

1562
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 2: Leah had as a little girl to inspire these people

1563
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 2: that then she would go on to lead.

1564
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,759
Speaker 1: So they're going, they're leaving, h They're leaving the torture room. Meanwhile,

1565
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: Reva is putting the screw to Tala. She's like, I

1566
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: think it was you. I think it was you that

1567
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: helped Ben and Lea get off Mapuzo. And Tala's like,

1568
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 1: uh okay, but like I'm a spy actually, like I'm

1569
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm one of these Imperial spies, like top level, super

1570
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 1: secret shit, and I like tricked Obi wan kenobis so

1571
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: that like I could come with him, and I've been

1572
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 1: working undercover all this time. And then Reva's like, great,

1573
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 1: let's check the records to see if you're really an

1574
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: Imperial intelligence person on the records. Actually that's a psych psyche.

1575
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 1: Let's just let's go to the torture room and torch

1576
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: to the truth. I love her so much, like.

1577
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 2: Tala has been going to like tattooine improv clauses. She's

1578
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 2: just coming up with these stories. She's like, you think

1579
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm wayan well guess we'll actually guess what. And then yeah,

1580
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: she's she is doing like a filibuster, galactic filibuster to

1581
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 2: keep Riva busy.

1582
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 1: So in the sub levels now, Ben is fighting with

1583
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: the security droids and Boom Fortress Inquisitorio as the alarm

1584
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 1: bells go off, stormtroopers running back and forth. Tala takes

1585
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 1: this opportunity to kill her guards. It's like, I'm not

1586
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 1: going to the torches rooms. You guys are dead. Meanwhile,

1587
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 1: Ben is playing block the blaster with the stormtroopers and

1588
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: the security droids, and it's just like the old days.

1589
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: He's just like bouncing blastered bolts back to their cinders,

1590
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 1: and the bad guys meanwhile just can't shoot. They still

1591
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 1: can't shoot. Ben reflects a blaster shot which cracks one

1592
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 1: of the windows lining the corridor. Now seawater is beginning

1593
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 1: to seep in. Meanwhile, the stormtroopers are everywhere. Ben and

1594
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 1: Lea are hemmed in. Ben manages to close a set

1595
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:50,600
Speaker 1: of blast doors with a reflected blaster shot. Lea is

1596
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: like the window Ben, and now Ben is using the

1597
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 1: force to hold back the sea. The window, though is

1598
01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 1: hopelessly cracked, it's crumbling under the pressure. Seawater is is

1599
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 1: rushing in. This is super cool tolerace, just in the

1600
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 1: in the nick of time. Uh. It's it's inspiring to

1601
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: see how Ben, how much stronger Ben is getting with

1602
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 1: the force. By the moment, Ben has Tala take lay

1603
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: at a safety while he continues to hold the window,

1604
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 1: and then once they're clear, he lets it go, runs

1605
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: into the other corridor, they close the blast door and

1606
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,759
Speaker 1: everybody makes out in time, all the stormtroopers are drowning.

1607
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 1: Fifth brother, meanwhile, has been alerted by the alarms. He's like, wait,

1608
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 1: is something going on?

1609
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 2: What happens?

1610
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 1: You just watching he was watching the Sopranos like He's

1611
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 1: just like she's just like em Empire slack, like hey,

1612
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: Darth Vader, it's crazy, like hey, how are you? Man?

1613
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 2: It's little meme like just like his fine meme is

1614
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 2: like I didn't like, I'm wrong man.

1615
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:56,719
Speaker 1: But as this chaos is unfolding, Fifth brothers like, aha,

1616
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 1: this is perfect. I'm gonna pin this whole fucking mess

1617
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 1: on Riva and I'm gonna grab that grand inquisitor job

1618
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 1: now using the old kid in the Coat trick, I believing.

1619
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 1: Ben with Tala takes Leya to the landing bay, but

1620
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 1: Reva is there, lightsaber out. She confronts him like you're

1621
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 1: a trader, Tala uh. But just when all seems lost,

1622
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 1: here comes two speeders, piloted by Wade and Sully. They

1623
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: scream into the landing bay, strafe the Imperials with devastating

1624
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 1: effect that that allows Ben and Tala to shoot their

1625
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 1: way out. Ben Tala and leya board Sully speeder while

1626
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 1: Wade continues to provide cover fire. They speed away, but

1627
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 1: then Reva uses the force to throw create a Wade's

1628
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 1: speeder destroys it. Wade's dead and Fifth Brother looks at

1629
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 1: Reva is like, m you're in trouble though, because laying

1630
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 1: Ben and the Imperial Trader got away. And I'm gonna

1631
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 1: tell Darth Vader on you, And let me tell you something.

1632
01:31:56,120 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 1: Coach Vader has come in and he is fun fucking hot.

1633
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 1: He is mad, he is forced choking the.

1634
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 2: She remember when I told you I was gonna kill

1635
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 2: you if you didn't do this? Is nice?

1636
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:13,560
Speaker 1: Is it? Right? Now? Now it's happening? And he and

1637
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 1: he's like, what do you have to say for yourself?

1638
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: Actually I don't care because I'm gonna choke you. But

1639
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 1: then Reva says, guess what, Actually, I know this looks bad,

1640
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 1: but actually it's great because I put a tracker on

1641
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 1: Obi wan Kenobi ship and I know where they're going

1642
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 1: and they're gonna lead us to the entire Rebel I

1643
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 1: know we're not using the word rebel yet, but I'm

1644
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: gonna say Rebel network. It's the old tracker and the

1645
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 1: ship bit. That's right, the very same trick that I

1646
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 1: guessed Vader will steal from Riva ten years incredible now

1647
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 1: to track the Millennium Falcon after it leaves the Death Star.

1648
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,799
Speaker 1: I cannot believe this is where Vader got the idea,

1649
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 1: and by the way, it must work out pretty well

1650
01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: because Vader uses the trick right like yeah like. Of

1651
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 1: course later when Vader does it, they do find the

1652
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 1: base on Yavin, but of course, crucially they let the

1653
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 1: guy who then blows up the Death Star out of

1654
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:14,719
Speaker 1: their clutches, a thing that gets Vader insignificantly hot water

1655
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 1: with the Emperor. Now again, this must I guess it

1656
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:21,560
Speaker 1: must work here spoiler alert for the next episode. It

1657
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 1: has to work because why else, yeah, why else would

1658
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 1: he recycle this idea? So Darth Vader is like, Okay,

1659
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 1: you know what, that's pretty interesting. I'm gonna stop choking

1660
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 1: you now, good idea. I'm gonna file that away for

1661
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 1: future Notice. Fifth Brother is like, but my lord, the

1662
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 1: base was almost destroyed, and as we all know, Darth

1663
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 1: Vader probably should have listened to this little critique because

1664
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: much later, ten years later, his actual Death Star base

1665
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 1: will indeed be destroyed, but that's again for later. Vader

1666
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,600
Speaker 1: doesn't care about that now. What he cares about is

1667
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 1: the fact that they are about to get the location

1668
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 1: of these Path rebels and of his old master Obi

1669
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 1: Wan Kenobi. And Vader is like, you're sure, Reva, you're

1670
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,680
Speaker 1: sure that that tractors with Ben, and She's like, you're

1671
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 1: damn right, I'm sure. We see the rebels arriving on

1672
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 1: their carrier, Ben, Lea and Talay they arrive and they

1673
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: greet broken and they're clearly distraught their heartbroken. Rocans like,

1674
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,759
Speaker 1: where's Wade, and Sully is like, Wade bought it. Sorry,

1675
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:42,759
Speaker 1: Wade bought it. They're really soldiers now after all. Tala says,

1676
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 1: Sully in particular, is just completely distraught. Leah holtz Ben's

1677
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,759
Speaker 1: hand and then the camera pans down and done, done done.

1678
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: Lola is the beacon when Reva had. When Reva caught

1679
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: Lola and was playing around with her, she planted a

1680
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: beacon and that little droid. And this is again much

1681
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 1: what like we learned in the Cure and Gillen Star

1682
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 1: Wars series a few years back, this is exactly what

1683
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,599
Speaker 1: Darth Vader does that the homing beacon on the Millennium,

1684
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,759
Speaker 1: Falcon was indeed a droid. It was a story droid,

1685
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 1: much like it is now amazing developments all around. What

1686
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 1: did you think of the episode? Yeah, I just I.

1687
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 2: Actually all the things that you're kind of pointing out,

1688
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 2: this is what I feel like. This show is bringing

1689
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:33,560
Speaker 2: so much additive value. Like it's it's hard to imagine this,

1690
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 2: but it's true. Right when George Lucas made a New Hope,

1691
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 2: that movie was seen us such a risk that Fox

1692
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 2: allowed him to keep all the rights.

1693
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 1: I mean that was the thing that made him super

1694
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 1: merchandising all that.

1695
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 2: It's how Alec Guinness's family made a lot of money

1696
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 2: from a percentage of merchandising. Right, Like, there was a

1697
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,679
Speaker 2: time when these movies, these movies were like a risk,

1698
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 2: and even when they became popular, they were still like

1699
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 2: this is just the movie and something is happening. And

1700
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 2: in that way, there's a slightness to them. You know,

1701
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 2: this is like a space opera. It's just kind of

1702
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 2: it's trophy. And this show in particular is building so

1703
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 2: much context and wait onto these moments by adding this history.

1704
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 2: I mean the way that this episode builds up the

1705
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 2: moment you know layers incredible speech which ends with you

1706
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 2: know help me Obi one can ob You're my only hope.

1707
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 2: Of course she would turn to him. This is a

1708
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 2: man who when she was a child kept coming back

1709
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 2: even when he was flawed, even when he bungled it,

1710
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 2: and was the reason she ended up in the torture machine. Anyway,

1711
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 2: he came back and he delivered, and even when he'd

1712
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 2: been in a cave for ten years, he came out

1713
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 2: of it to save her. So of course he is

1714
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 2: the one who she goes to. And I think that

1715
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 2: is really cool and exactly what these shows agree with.

1716
01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:01,640
Speaker 1: A couple questions where spoiler alert for those of you

1717
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: who were not into Star Wars animation, but the Grand

1718
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 1: Inquisitor who Reva stabbed through the guts with her lightsaber

1719
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 1: is in numerous other stories that happen years from now.

1720
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 1: He continues on in the role of Grand Inquisitor, doesn't

1721
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 1: lose his job, but also nobody seems to know that

1722
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 1: he's where he is, Like, he's just dead, according to Riva,

1723
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 1: and everybody buys it. Obi Wan killed the Grand Inquisitor

1724
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 1: and that's it, and nobody was like, where's the so,

1725
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 1: where the fuck is she killing him.

1726
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 2: It's like this very interesting jeweling thing here because Tala says, oh,

1727
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to see the ground inquisitor. So

1728
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 2: some people don't even know he's meant to be dead.

1729
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:51,600
Speaker 2: There's like the base level like grunt workers don't know.

1730
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 2: She told Vader, she's like, man, he sucks. He was

1731
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 2: getting in the way of Obi Wan. He's dead. I'm

1732
01:37:56,920 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 2: assuming that maybe another member of the Inquisitorious, though they're

1733
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 2: not particularly loyal and we haven't seen the other member

1734
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 2: this episode. I assume that one of them huddled him

1735
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 2: away to a back to tank slash ming no when Thundercat.

1736
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 1: Esque right, kind of my body modifier or something.

1737
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:23,600
Speaker 2: Some kind of Darth Moor spider Legs situation is in

1738
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 2: Star Wars. But I feel like, and this is totally

1739
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 2: out there. This is just like a gut check guess.

1740
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:32,600
Speaker 2: But like that tomb is obviously the Jedi tomb is

1741
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 2: obviously somewhere where.

1742
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 1: Like no one goes.

1743
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,240
Speaker 2: So I also wonder if he's down there in like

1744
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 2: the depths of the Inquisitorious or something like that would

1745
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 2: be a place where I think you could keep him

1746
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 2: without people find.

1747
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she's clearly keeping him under wrap somewhere okay

1748
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 1: mm hm. We talked about it up front reaver Bron's wife, like, uh,

1749
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 1: what do we think? It felt very pointed to me,

1750
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:04,679
Speaker 1: the broken would mention having a wife who was for sensitive,

1751
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 1: especially when as he gosh killed, there is not meant.

1752
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 2: To be that many for sensitive people depending on the law.

1753
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:15,759
Speaker 2: I prefer the the Ryan Johnson idea that there's millions

1754
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 2: of for sensitive people, and it's like a democratic idea,

1755
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 2: but that is not necessarily the normal thing. And we

1756
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 2: know that for sensitive people are being rounded up. We

1757
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 2: know they're meant to have been killed by Order sixty six.

1758
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 2: So it feels very pointed. And also the way that

1759
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 2: he says, you know she was taken, she was gone.

1760
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 2: Of course I know what the Empire can do. I mean,

1761
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 2: how much worse would it be if he knows she's

1762
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 2: an inquisitor. Yeah, maybe that's the reason she's gone, you know,

1763
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 2: I mean I would love to see that. I love

1764
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 2: O'Shea Jackson. I think he's great, and he's like really

1765
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 2: into this kind of stuff.

1766
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 1: He's super yeah star wars, so to me, like.

1767
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 2: I'm always stoked to see him get a role like this,

1768
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:54,560
Speaker 2: and it was really nice. I think playing like a

1769
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 2: rebel in Star Wars one of the coolest roles you

1770
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 2: can get, So I'd love to see him and so

1771
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 2: kind of expanded on as we go into these last

1772
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 2: two episodes. I mean also as well, that could be

1773
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 2: another thing that could help re return if she does

1774
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 2: have that personal connection.

1775
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 1: Seize him help.

1776
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you're onto something. Yeah, because

1777
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 2: if you think about it narratively, why would they need

1778
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 2: to go to where the path is Like they had

1779
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 2: them there, but you're leading them back to Broken and

1780
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 2: to have that interaction and that collision on that planet

1781
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 2: with that group of people rather than just like them

1782
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 2: staying with the Inquisitorious or them ending up somewhere else.

1783
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:49,519
Speaker 2: So I think you could really be onto something. I'm

1784
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 2: also really interested to see because I love a droid.

1785
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 2: It's obviously going to work to a point, but is

1786
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 2: Lola going to be able to try and like tell Layer.

1787
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 1: There's also the issue of Lola's eyes being like revoic,

1788
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 1: Like there's there's also that like at what point does

1789
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 1: Layer or anybody look at Lola go was she did?

1790
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 2: She always is very force sensitive, Like I know she's

1791
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 2: gonna sense something, so I'm interested to see how they

1792
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 2: kind of play on that aspect because the relationship between

1793
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 2: humans and droids and and and and sentient creatures and

1794
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 2: their droids and stuff that is just like a very

1795
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 2: cool space in Star Wars lore, and I feel like

1796
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 2: that's kind of ripe for for Lola trying to do

1797
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 2: something to help Layer in whatever form, But obviously it's

1798
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 2: probably gonna be after they get there, because they're definitely

1799
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 2: showing down.

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Speaker 1: Only two more episodes left. I'm loving this show. I

1801
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 1: can't wait for more. This has been fantastic. Can't wait

1802
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 1: to continue to talk about it with you. Rosie. Well,

1803
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 1: a big thank you to Rosie Knight, of course for

1804
01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 1: co hosting this yet another fine episode of the X

1805
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 1: ray podcast. Rosie, what do you have to plug? What

1806
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 1: do you have to what are you doing? What do

1807
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 1: you Where are you at?

1808
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:10,600
Speaker 2: And yes, I am at Rosie Marks on Instagram and

1809
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 2: letterbox if you want to follow me socially, I am

1810
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:16,679
Speaker 2: obviously here co hosting talking about all this cool stuff.

1811
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 2: If you want to read more about Black Adam, you

1812
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 2: can see some pieces that I wrote out on the internet,

1813
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 2: and I'm sure I will be writing more as well.

1814
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 2: As I had a really cool interview that I did

1815
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 2: with with the most recent writer of Miss Marvel, Samira

1816
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 2: Ahmed of the comic, and that's going to be up

1817
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 2: at Nerdice soon, so definitely keep an eye out for that.

1818
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 2: It's really great piece that goes along with with the show.

1819
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, just the normal, the normal kind of cool

1820
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 2: stuff and just like wear a mask and be nice

1821
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 2: to each other.

1822
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Speaker 1: That's it. Please be nice to each other. We need

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Speaker 1: it right now, folks. Check out our videos on the

1824
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:57,640
Speaker 1: Uncultured YouTube channel, and check out our show notes for

1825
01:42:57,760 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 1: the listener's guide to X ray Vision, where we provide

1826
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 1: more details on where to find the stuff that we

1827
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 1: talk about every episode. Catch the next episode June seventeenth,

1828
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 1: where we continue to dive deep into the seas of

1829
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 1: Nore as we continue to explore Obi Wan Kenobi and

1830
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:16,600
Speaker 1: the streets of Jersey City where we will continue to

1831
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 1: talk about Miss Marvel, plus deeper dive into the boys

1832
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 1: in coming weeks. Don't forget five stars, rate and review

1833
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:28,240
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Speaker 1: of them please. X ray Vision is a Crooked Media production.

1835
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:33,639
Speaker 1: The show is produced by Chris Lord and Soul Rubin

1836
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 1: The show is executive produced by myself and Sandy's rhard

1837
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:40,560
Speaker 1: Are editing and sound designs by Facillia's Patopoulos. Dylon Villanueva

1838
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 1: and Matt de Group provide video production support. Alex rella

1839
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:46,719
Speaker 1: Ford handle social media. Thank you Brian Vasquez for theme music.

1840
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 1: See you next time. Yeah, why am I out of

1841
01:43:55,080 --> 01:44:00,560
Speaker 1: my sector? Because I have classified information about that? You

1842
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 1: ever heard of that? Classified? Just even me telling that

1843
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 1: to you is like a big deal. So you better

1844
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,680
Speaker 1: not delay me because you're gonna be in trouble. You're

1845
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:10,599
Speaker 1: gonna be force choked.

1846
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:10,800
Speaker 2: Aus.

1847
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen people you force choked before. What

1848
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 1: am I doing at this workstation? I needed to check

1849
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 1: my email and stuff? Does this go out? Does this

1850
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 1: go outside to the outside internet? I'm sorry, I'm just

1851
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 1: a workaholic, you know, Like I came here again to

1852
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 1: deliver some information. I can't really tie. I told the

1853
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 1: security out there, but I just also have other work

1854
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 1: to do, and I was just doing doing that work

1855
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: as well. I helped bend and lay it get off Maputh. No,

1856
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean, what did happen? What really did happen is

1857
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:54,599
Speaker 1: that they were running away and he was like all

1858
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 1: injured from Darth Vader, I guess, I think. And they

1859
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 1: were like, you need to get out of here, and

1860
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you guys are Jedi or bad people,

1861
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 1: and I'm going to trick you by helping you get

1862
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 1: off the planet. But then I'm going to give the

1863
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 1: information to the inquisitors, which is what I am doing.

1864
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing that right now.