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I 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: spent about fifteen years as an anchor at Fox News. 29 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: I'd been a journalist for about three decades. I was 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: also a trial lawyer in California for several years early 31 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: in my career. But last December I began writing a book. 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: Sean encouraged me to do this. He has supported it 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: all along the way, and the book comes out in 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks. It's called The Russia Hoax, 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: The Illicit Scheme to clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump. 36 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: Harford Collins is the publisher. You can preorder it on 37 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: Barnes and Noble dot com. You can go to Amazon, 38 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: you could go to Hannity dot com. There's a link 39 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: there where you can purchase the book. You can check 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: it out on my Twitter account at Greg Jarrett on Twitter. 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: But the title, I must say, really gives you a 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: very good idea of what the book is about. I 43 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: lay out the case of how top figures at the 44 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: FBI the Department of Justice deliberately used and abuse their 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: positions of power to subvert our system of justice to 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: undermine the democratic process. They twisted the law, they contorted 47 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: it to absolve Hillary Clinton of violating felony statutes, which 48 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: she did flagrantly in the mishandling of classified documents. We're 49 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: not talking about one document or five, or ten or twenty, No, 50 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: one hundred and ten classified documents. They were classified when 51 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: they were sent and received by Hillary Clinton, and she 52 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: knew it. And then these top officials decided they were 53 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: going to weaponize other laws and regulations to launch a 54 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: dilating investigation of Donald Trump without any legal justification. Why well, 55 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: they did it in an effort to destroy Trump. They 56 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: used this phony and obviously fabricated anti Trump dossier, a 57 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: wire tap his associates, and collect records. Unbeknownst the Donald 58 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: Trump or the Trump campaign. They never went to him 59 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: and said, we have some concerns about Russians and maybe 60 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: talking to people in the in the Trump campaign. No, 61 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: they didn't do that. What they also did was they 62 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: employed undercover confidential agents to insinuate themselves into the Trump 63 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: campaign surreptitiously. It was a sub rosa operation to spy, 64 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: to gather incriminating evidence. And in doing all this and 65 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: so much more, these government officials compromised our essential American principles, 66 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: and they damaged the nation's trust. And I would love 67 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: to hear from you. We're gonna be taking calls on this. 68 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: Give us a call at and I'll answer your questions 69 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: or I'll listen to your statements and opinions. Our number 70 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: is eight hundred nine four one seven three to six. 71 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: That's eight hundred nine for one sean S, E A N. 72 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: So give us a call. I look forward to hearing 73 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: from you. I so rarely have the opportunity two to 74 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: have a discourse with the public, the list owners, on television, 75 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: the viewers. So I'm looking forward to this. Pick up 76 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: the phone and give us a call. But the book 77 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: makes the following argument, there was never any plausible or 78 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: credible evidence that Trump or his campaign collaborated with Russia 79 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: to win the presidency. Indeed, the FBI had no legal 80 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: basis to initiate the investigation. There was no evidence of crime, uh, 81 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: to justify a criminal investigation, which is required by the 82 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: way in the FBI and Department of Justice manual, you 83 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: cannot launch an official investigation without some evidence of a crime. 84 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: It literally says in the diogue as it's known. That's 85 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: the the FBI manual. There have to be articulable facts 86 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: that would dem and straight that a crime has taken 87 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: place or could take place. They never had that. So 88 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: James Comey and Peter Struck, the lead investigator at the FBI, 89 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: they were very clever. They said, Oh, let's make it 90 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: a counter intelligence probe. Ah, that'll give us a little 91 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: bit more latitude. And importantly, because it involves intelligence, we 92 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: don't have to tell anybody about it, we can do 93 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: it secretly. So, as I say, the FBI had no 94 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: legal basis to investigate Trump or his campaign, so they 95 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: invented facts, They exaggerated other ones. Laws were perverted, they 96 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: were ignored, and when you get right down to it, 97 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: the law enforcers became the law breakers. And of course, 98 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: when James Comey was finally canned as FBI director for 99 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: breaking rules and violating policy and usurping the power of 100 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: the Attorney General and engaging in rampant an egregious acts 101 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: of insubordination. And that's not my finding, although it's in 102 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: the book, that's the Inspector General's recent report. Comey then 103 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: he hatched this devious scheme of retribution vengeance to trigger 104 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: the appointment of his longtime friend, partner and ally Robert Mueller, 105 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: a special counsel. As I say, this has to go 106 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: down in history as one of the most devious maneuvers 107 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: by an unscrupulous man who is out there now peddling 108 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: his book to make millions. And by the way, he 109 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: moved up the publication of his book because he knew 110 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: that the Inspector General was going to eve his Comey's 111 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: reputation and integrity in tatters and who would want to 112 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: buy the book after the Inspector General's report came out. 113 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: So Comey, to cash in on his uh self anointed fame, 114 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: decided that he was going to move up the publication 115 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: of that book. Uh. Of course he insinuated during his 116 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: testimony before Congress that the president obstructed justice. That's legally absurd, 117 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: And of course the liberal media became witting accessories. They 118 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: all but convinced convicted Trump in the court of public opinion. 119 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: Did you ever hear any reporter asked the fundamental question, 120 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: how is collusion a crime? Where where is that written 121 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: in the criminal codes? Well it's not. They never bothered 122 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: to look it up. Talking with a Russian or any 123 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: foreign national during a campaign is not a crime. I'll 124 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: tell you what is a crime, payments to a foreign 125 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: national during the course of a campaign. And the great 126 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: irony is that's exactly what Hillary Clinton's campaign did. She 127 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: and her campaign paid a former British spy to contact 128 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: Russians in order to conjure dirt on Donald Trump. Now 129 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: I ask you, is there a special counsel investigating Hillary Clinton? 130 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: Of course not. I must say the last couple of 131 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: weeks have been revealing. In a blistering denunciation of James Comey, 132 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: the inspector made it abundantly clear that Comy deserved to 133 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,359 Speaker 1: be fired, but he also found severe and pervasive bias 134 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: in Peter Struck In his stress Lisa Page. Struck was 135 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: the lead investigator in three different cases, the Clinton email case, 136 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: in which he helped that she be cleared, the Trump 137 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: Russia investigation. He signed the papers launching it, and then 138 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: of course he jumped to the early stages of the 139 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: Special Council probe. And the Inspector General said this of 140 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: of Peter Struck quote, he had a willingness to take 141 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: official action to impact Trump's electoral prospects. Whether Struck and 142 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: others launched the Trump investigation wrongfully, that will be the 143 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: subject of the Inspector General's next report, which is forthcoming, 144 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: so you know, stay tuned to that. Struck was deposed 145 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: this week behind closed doors, and his public testimony is 146 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: supposed to take place very soon. And then he asked 147 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: day the Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein was on the 148 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: hot seat in the congressional hearing. We're gonna be talking 149 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: about it today. Andrew McCarthy of National Review, former federal prosecutor, 150 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: who is a guy who knows is much about this case, 151 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: is anybody is going to be joining us, will get 152 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: his thoughts on what took place yesterday, But give us 153 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: a call, because I'm anxious to hear from you. Our 154 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: number is eight hundred nine f one seven three to six. 155 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: That's eight hundred nine f one. Sean. I'm Greg jareded 156 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: sitting in for Sean Hannity. I want to focus in 157 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: just a moment on what Trey Goudy said yesterday, uh, 158 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: when this entire cross examination of Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy 159 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: Attorney General was taking place. And before we take a break, 160 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: I'll leave you with what he said. He said, this 161 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: ship the hell up, meaning the Special Council Probe over 162 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: which Rod Rosenstein prison presides. He said, if you have 163 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: evidence of obstruction of justice, if you have evidence of collusion, 164 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: present it, for God's sakes, to a grand jury, presented 165 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: to the American people. Otherwise, shut the damn thing down already, 166 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: in his words, finish it the hell up. I'm Greg 167 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: Jared sitting in for Sean Hannity today on the Sean 168 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: Hannity Show. Will be right back. So I almost say this, 169 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: see Mr Ray, Mr Rosenstein. I realized that neither one 170 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: of you were there when this happened, but you're both 171 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: there now. Russia attacked this country. They should be the target, 172 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: but Russia isn't being hurt by this investigation right now, 173 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: we are this country is being hurt by it. We 174 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: are being divided. We've seen the bias, We've seen the bias. Right, 175 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: we need to see the evidence. If you have evidence 176 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: of wrongdoing by any member of the Trump campaign, presented 177 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: to the damn grand jury, if you have evidence that 178 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: this president acted inappropriately, presented to the American people. There's 179 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: an old saying that justice delayed is justice denied. I 180 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: think right now all of us are being denied. Whatever 181 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: you got, finish it the hell up, because this country 182 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: is being torn apart. Greg, Jared and for Sean Hannity, 183 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: this is the Sean Hannity Show. That was Trey Goudy 184 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: yesterday and that was the most in my judgment, memorable moment. 185 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: Uh in yesterday's hearing in which the FBI Director Christopher Ray, 186 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: but mostly Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney General, we're on 187 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: the hot seat, and you know, Rosenstein repeatedly weaseled his 188 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: way around answering some of the most critical questions, claiming 189 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: he couldn't or wouldn't respond because the Inspector General's investigation 190 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: is still pending, or the Mueller probe is still pending, 191 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: or because information is classified. You know what? It was 192 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: the typical Washington two steps, offering up vacuous excuses to 193 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: avoid and deflect and cover up. Let's go to one 194 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: of our callers. Kevin calls in from Memphis, Tennessee. Kevin, 195 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: how are you good, Greg? How are you? I'm well, 196 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: thank you? What do you think? Well? Listen one As 197 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: far as Rosenstein yesterday, his smuggness really got under my skin, 198 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: as does all their smugness. But I have a quick 199 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: question as to why does President Trump not just say, 200 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: look it, hand over all the all the papers to Congress. 201 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: Do it now so that we can speed this up. 202 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: What is right kind of legal prost? I'm glad you 203 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: said it. I mentioned this two nights ago on Shawn's 204 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: television show. I said, the President is in charge of 205 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: the executive branch. He's in charge of the Department of 206 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: Justice and the FBI. He had already ordered them to 207 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: comply with all subpoenas he needs to in writing order 208 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice and specifically Rod Rosenstein, comply with 209 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: this outstanding lawful subpoena by Congress turn over these documents 210 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: related to the FISA warrant applications related to these undercover 211 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: confidential informants. They were spies. Let's just call them what 212 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: they are, and if they If Rosenstein doesn't comply, then 213 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: the President of the U States should fire Rod rosen Stein. 214 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: Uh And in the alternative, the President could order that 215 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: the documents being sought be handed over by the Department 216 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: of Justice of the White House Council, who can then 217 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: give it to the congressional committees that issued the subpoenas. So, Kevin, 218 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: is a great point you make. I'm glad you made it. 219 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: Let's go to one more quick caller John in in Mobile, Alabama. John, 220 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: you're there, I'm well, thank you. Call me Greg Well, okay, saver, 221 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: meet you will. Um. One of the things that we've 222 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: been hearing is about the FISI Court judges and how 223 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: they were lied to and to me, the more I 224 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: thought about this, if you had all this bias in 225 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: the FBI, which we know about, why couldn't it be 226 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: biased in these SYSIC court judges. They you know, struck 227 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: In Paige knew some of these judge if i'd oh, 228 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: they did know. In fact, they knew one of the 229 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: judges quite well. And John, hang on, we're gonna get 230 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: to it in just a moment. We'll be right back 231 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: and welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg 232 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: Jared in for Sean Hannity Today. I've got a book 233 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: coming out in a couple of weeks. It's called The 234 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: Russia Hoax, The Illicit Scheme to clear Hillary Clinton in 235 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: frame Donald Trump. And the title pretty much tells the 236 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: story except when you buy the book. If you buy 237 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: the book, and I hope you do, UM, you can 238 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: read the details I lay out in excruciating detail with 239 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: seven hundred footnotes. Everything is sourced, no anonymous sources. Everything 240 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: is sourced. What went on as the FBI and the 241 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: Department of Justice cleared Hillary Clinton by twisting the law 242 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: even though she had clearly committed numerous felonies, and then 243 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: they went about, by the way, on the very same 244 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: day she was cleared, they began in earnest the investigation 245 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump for crimes he did not commit. And 246 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: so you can go to Barnes and Noble dot com 247 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: or Amazon and pre order it. Go to Hannity dot 248 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: com there's a link there and you can pre order 249 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: the book um, or go to my Twitter account at 250 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett on Twitter We were talking a moment ago 251 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: with John from Mobile, Alabama. UH, and he posed a 252 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: very good question and John, I think you're still there. 253 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: You said, is it possible that Struck in others at 254 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: the FBI knew which fis a court judges we're going 255 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: to be presiding over the fabricated FISA warrant? And the 256 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: answer is yes. It can be found in Peter Strung 257 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: text messages with his lover Lisa Page he was an 258 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: FBI lawyer, in which she she says to him, did 259 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: you know that Judge Rudolph Contraras is a FISA judge? 260 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: And he says, yes, I've talked to him, I know him. 261 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: I need to talk to him some more. And then 262 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: the two of them devised a scheme to throw a 263 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: dinner party. Now remember they're married to two other separate people, 264 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: but they're carrying on this affair. And so they put 265 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: together apparently a dinner party and invited Judge Contrarorists to 266 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: attend the dinner party. And you know, Struck makes it 267 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: clear that Contrarist knows he's the head of counter intelligence 268 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: of the FBI, and you know, and Peter Strock is 269 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: obviously involved as the lead investigator in the Trump Russia case, 270 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: which sought from PISA judges a warrant to wire tap. 271 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: And so the answer is yes, they knew at least 272 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: one of the FISA judges. So John, great question, thanks 273 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: for asking. Let me go to Scott in Colorado. Scott, 274 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: you're on the air. Thanks for being with us, Mr Gregg, 275 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: this is quite an honor. Man. We we in the 276 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: oil fields up here after after like a Hannity and 277 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: you're on. We compare notes and we I've just been 278 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: such a fan of all the hard work you've done. 279 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: I so appreciate it, and I can't wait to get 280 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: your book and and hopefully you go on a tour 281 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: so I can have you sign it someday. That's just 282 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: just appreciate everything you've done. Man, Well, it's very nice 283 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: of you. And and again the name of the book 284 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: is the Russia Hoax, the illicit scheme to clear Hillary 285 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: Clinton and frame Donald Trump. And I've never written a 286 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: book before, um, and I never really wanted to. I've 287 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: written over the last couple of years two or three 288 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: hundred columns, a lot of them were on this subject. 289 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: And and you know, I was on Sean Show quite frequently, 290 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: and he said, you know, you ought to write a 291 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: book on this and somebody needs to lay out the 292 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: evidence and the facts. Uh. And so I decided to 293 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: write this book. I started writing in December. I wrote 294 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: every word of every page of this book. No ghost writer, 295 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: no co writer. Um. And you know, it was a 296 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: difficult task because it is so vast and I, you know, 297 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: read through thousands and thousands of transcripts, pages of testimony, 298 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: and poured through thousands of government documents and a lot 299 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: of this stuff was not easy to dig up. Even so, 300 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: the documents in a British court involving the defamation claims 301 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: that are being made a it's the former British by who, 302 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: Christopher Steele, who you know, came up with this dossier 303 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: anti Trump dossie. I invise you to actually read the dossier. 304 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: You can find it online. It is good for a laugh. 305 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean, on its face, it is utterly preposterous claiming, 306 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: you know, Trump Russian collusion, that that Putin and Trump 307 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: were colluding as far back as eight years ago. As 308 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: if Donald Trump, you know, somehow was clarivoyant and and 309 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 1: knew he was going to be president, much less Vladimir Putin. 310 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's preposterous and and so I 311 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: have I have read it, and it reads like a 312 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: very horrible author or two or whatever. They don't it's unintelligible. 313 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: But I just wanted to thank you because for us 314 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: oil Field guys, when you lay out an argument, you're clear, 315 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: you're concise, and we can understand it with UH legallys well, 316 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: thank you. I mean, look, there's a there's a lot 317 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: of the law in the book, but I tried to 318 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: make it really simple and straightforward so that non lawyers 319 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: could easily digest what it is I'm saying. And I 320 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: worked very hard with a publisher. We went through several edits, 321 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: which got to simplify. I mean, I submitted more than 322 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand words. I think we pared it down 323 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: to about eighty five thousand words or more than a 324 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: thousand footnotes, and we got it down to about seven hundred. 325 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: So we tried to simplify this thing down to its core. 326 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: It's very essence. Scott, if I'm in Colorado, I hope 327 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: I see you. Thanks very much for calling. Let's go 328 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: to UH. Another caller, Steve joins us from Minneapolis, Minnesota. 329 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: Hey Steve, Thank you, Greg. I look forward to getting 330 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: your book. Thank you. You know, we all know about 331 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: the whole thing going on in the Justice and FBI, 332 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: and it's all in the executive brand. And he gotta 333 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: wonder how in the world is what's being done and 334 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: what's not being done happening? And I think I have 335 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: the answer, and I want your opinion. I think I 336 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: think the original mall in the Trump campaign was Jeffson 337 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: and everything else is a shiny otic And if you 338 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: if you put Jeff Essons of the original mall, you 339 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: get every answer to every question you'd have. Well, you know, Um, 340 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: it's not a bad notion. But it assumes one thing 341 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: that Jeff Sessions was smart enough to be a male. Um. 342 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: And I'm you know, I well, he does not strike 343 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: me every question Jeff It answers every single Well, it 344 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: would it would because it would have to be somebody 345 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: who was inimately involved in the campaign. And of course 346 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: Jeff's Sessions was at Trump's side in many of the 347 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: campaign events. Um. And so it's you know, I mean, 348 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: it's not a bad notion. I will say this about 349 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: Jeff Sessions. He has to go down as one of 350 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: the most feckless, ineffective, clueless, oblivious attorney generals in American history. 351 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: And that's saying a lot, because there have been some 352 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: attorney generals in the United States that were just downright awful, 353 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: and a couple of them that were as dumb as 354 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: a bucket of hair. But Jeff Sessions is the biggest 355 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: mistake Donald Trump ever made, uh since he was elected president. 356 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: He'll tell you that. He'll be the first guy to 357 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: tell you that. And you know why Jeff Sessions hasn't just, 358 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, held a news conference and said, you know what, 359 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: I'm in over my head. I don't know what I'm doing. 360 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: You know, I really am doing a disservice to the 361 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: United the States of America being the Attorney general. I've 362 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: recused myself from an important case. I deceived the president. 363 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: I knew I was likely going to recuse myself. I 364 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: didn't alert him. I should have. It was a deep betrayal. 365 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: My bad. I'm resigning. But but you know, Jeff Sessions, 366 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, I'm told by the people I talked to 367 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice is they you know, he comes 368 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: to work every day and they hied him in a closet. 369 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he's left out of everything. Decisions are principally 370 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: made by Rod Rosenstein. Uh. And you know Jeff Sessions 371 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: is you know, I don't know what he's doing in 372 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: his office twiddling his thumbs. Maybe you know he's watching Barney. 373 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. But um, thank you for your call. 374 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Let's get to our next caller, Doug 375 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: in Daytona Beach Joints. This, Doug, how are you like? 376 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing fine, great to talk to you. I got 377 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: a question for you from your legal standpoint that doesn't 378 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: necessarily relate to today, but it goes way way back. 379 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: How in the world I think a lot of American 380 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: citizens want to know this. How in the world does 381 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton continue to engage in felonious and criminal activity 382 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: and continue to escape any kind of prosecution charges anything. 383 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: We're going all the way back to insider trading with Whitewater. 384 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: She had nine hundred files in the in the residential 385 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: area of the White House, FBI files on American citizens 386 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: in the in the residence of the White House, and 387 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: had her fingerprints all over it. I mean, you just 388 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: go after step after step and she never gets charged. 389 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: This woman's got t I mean, she is super teflon 390 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 1: and she continued to avoid well look during I devote 391 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: an entire chapter. Chapter four is entitled Clinton Greed and 392 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: Uranium one UM and And the reason I included that 393 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: particular chapter is because it really does explain why she 394 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: used a private secret server for all of her communications. 395 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: Because I theorized that she was hiding the for sale 396 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: sign that she had on the door of her office 397 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: as Secretary of State, and and that's why she had 398 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: a private service. She didn't want people to find out 399 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: what was really going on behind the scenes, that that 400 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: she was exploiting her position, uh for financial gain for 401 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: her foundation and for her husband, the former President United States. 402 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: That's my theory, and I devote a chapter to it. 403 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: And the book again is called The Russia Hoax, The 404 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: Illicit Scheme to clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump. 405 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: You can get it for pre sale at Barnes and 406 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: Noble dot com and Amazon and go to Hannity dot com. 407 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: There's a link there and you can buy it it. 408 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: It will be out on store shelves in a couple 409 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: of weeks. I have one of the copies here in 410 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: front of me, Uh and no, I did not put 411 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: my picture on the front of the book. Instead, it's 412 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: got a picture of Robert Muller, Hillary Clinton, and James Comey. Um, 413 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: but thank you for the phone call. How did Hillary 414 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: Clinton managed to escape all of this? During the Obama administration? 415 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: She was protected by President Obama and protected by Eric Holder, 416 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: and protected by Loretta lynch Uh And when the Whitewater 417 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: stuff came up, she was largely protected by the Bill 418 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: Clinton Department of Justice as well. Yes, there was a 419 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: special counsel Um ken Starr, but he went off on 420 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: a tangent, and Monica Lewinsky and so forth, and she 421 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: was never really held accountable for many of the things 422 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: that she did. Let's go to Gary in Virginia. Gary, 423 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: you're on the air. Fantastic. You do a fantastic job 424 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: when you're on with Shawn. I just wanted to just 425 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: acknowledge that got something little theory I want to run 426 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: by you, and I'm not sure if you addressed it 427 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: in your book. She was gonna win. Hillary was gonna 428 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: win this thing. And my question is was this all 429 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: of that put in Trump and jail perp walking him 430 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: and you know, doing all that after the election to 431 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: to to just make the statement that don't ever challenge 432 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: a swamp again. Remember she was gonna win, and they 433 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: started this investigation way before, um, you know, way before 434 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: the election results were were starting. Yeah, well, I'll tell 435 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: you what the answer is. It was an insurance policy. 436 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: And how do we know that, because that's Peter Struck's 437 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: infamous uh message, that you know we have an insurance policy. 438 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: It's what we discussed in Andy's office, Andy being Andrew McCabe, 439 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: who was the second in command at the FBI. It's 440 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: a great point and I'm glad you brought it up. 441 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna pause, take a quick break on Greg Jared 442 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: sitting in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Show. 443 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. On Greg Jared 444 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: in for Sean Hannity. Did you see Rod Rosenstein on 445 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: the hot seat yesterday in front of Congress? He denied 446 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: withholding documents? Really, your own letters prove you're withholding documents, 447 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: and you have until July six or you'll be held 448 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: in contempt. That was the congressional resolution. And then he 449 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: was asked, did you threatened staffers on the House Intelligence 450 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: Committee threatened to subpoena their calls and emails. He said, 451 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: no media reports are mistaken. Guess what the media report 452 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: was me I first reported on February two on Hannity 453 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: on Fox News Channel, and I had spoken to two 454 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: people who were in that meeting in which Rosenstein threatened 455 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: to subpoena their calls, their emails, and their texts. So 456 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: was Rod Rosenstein yesterday lying? Did he commit perjury? It's 457 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: one of the questions that we have as we go 458 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: through rosen Stein's testimony yesterday. Uh, you know, we're gonna 459 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: talk about it with Andrew McCarthy, former federal prosecutor. He's 460 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,959 Speaker 1: gonna be joining us in just a moment. He's a columnist, 461 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: uh for the National Review. He writes excellent columns, and 462 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking to him about two of his 463 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: most recent columns in just a moment. I'm Greg Jared 464 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: in for Sean Hannity. This is the Sean Hannity Show. 465 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: Stay with us. We'll be right back and welcome back 466 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: to the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg Jared sitting in 467 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: for Sean Hannity. I'm a Fox News legal analyst, uh, 468 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: and often on Sean's radio show and television show. And 469 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: I've got a book coming out, The Russia Hoax. It's 470 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: out in a couple of weeks. The subtitle The Illicit 471 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: Scheme to Clear hill Rie Clinton and Framed Donald Trump. 472 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: You could pre order it if you want, just go 473 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: to Barnes and Noble dot com or Amazon, or go 474 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: to Hannity dot com and there's there's a link there 475 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: where you can order it. Um but it'll be out 476 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: on store shelves in a couple of weeks. You can 477 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: also go to at Greg Jarrett my Twitter account. So 478 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: I invite you to do that. Uh. One of the 479 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: people that I quote in the book, uh two or 480 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: three times, maybe four times, is the great Andrew McCarthy. 481 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: And I call him great because this guy is a 482 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: veteran former federal prosecutor. He's a brilliant writer. You may 483 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: have read his columns on National Review, but uh, you know, 484 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: Andy is really one of the people that you can 485 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: always learn something interesting and revealing whenever you read his columns, 486 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: especially on this subject, the Russia Hoax. Uh. And so 487 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: he joins this now, and Andy, thanks for being with us. 488 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: Are you there? Greg? How are you? I? I chased 489 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: you around Fox all day yesterday, so I think I 490 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: call into the harassion. Yes you know, UM, and I'm 491 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: glad you're on because you know we do talk from 492 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: time to time. But one of the things I wanted 493 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: to ask you about. My book went to print before 494 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: the Inspector General report came out. And there's really there's 495 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: only a couple of things that I wish UH we're 496 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: in the book that are in the Inspector General's report. 497 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: One really doesn't need to be, and that's, you know, 498 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: the now infamous and notorious text message from Uh struck 499 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: and page in which he says, We're gonna stop Trump. 500 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: But you know, that's now so famous everybody knows it, 501 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: and it doesn't really need to be in my book. 502 00:34:54,360 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: But the other thing was when and whom made the 503 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: critical change in James Comey's statement UH, in which he 504 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: exonerates Hillary Clinton. Now in the month of May, and 505 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: this part is in my book. Comey writes a statement 506 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: UH in which he finds that Hillary Clinton is grossly negligent, 507 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: and again this is in my book as well. But 508 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: but some of the details aren't so grossly negligent is 509 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: obviously a crime in the handling of classified documents. It's 510 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: eighteen USC. Seven nine three, Section F and and so 511 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: I always wanted to know the details of why it 512 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: was changed from grossly negligent to extremely careless. And on 513 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: June six, two thousand and sixteen, a month after Comy 514 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: changed the language, a month after Comey wrote grossly negligen, 515 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: Peter Struck sits down at his computer and Lisa Page, 516 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: his girlfriend mistress, is standing nearby, and together with two 517 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: other people who are not identified, they changed the language 518 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: from grossly negligent to extremely careless. Did you read that 519 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: as page one, I think in the Inspector General's report, Andy, Yeah, 520 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: I did see that, Greg. And it's always been it's 521 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: been something that's intrigued me for a couple of reasons. 522 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: I remember when this first arose as an issue. I 523 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: think it was Judge Mukasey, who I had the honor 524 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: of trying to blind shape in front of those years ago, 525 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: who later served as UH with distinction as Attorney General, 526 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: was a long time judge in New York UM. But 527 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: it was he who I think made the key point here, 528 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: which is that if a judge was actually going to 529 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: give the jury in St auctions at the end of 530 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 1: a case about what gross negligence means. What the judge 531 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: would tell them is that it means extreme carelessness. So yeah, 532 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: so the so the two things are interchangeable, and it's 533 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: clear that the reason that they removed it is because 534 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: this was supposed to be an exoneration. And if you 535 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: leave the language of the statute that they're accused of 536 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: or they're being investigated for violating, and you say they 537 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: did it, it reads more like an indictment than an exoneration. 538 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: But the thing that's always um intrigued me about this is, 539 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: I really think, and I still think that the the 540 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: gross negligence slash extreme carelessness thing is almost ingenious on 541 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: the part of the FBI and and Comy and the 542 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: Justice Department in particular, because I think if you look 543 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: at this with all of the intent proof that you 544 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: could marshal in eluding the thing that the FBI left 545 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: out of its calculation, and that the uh, the the 546 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: Inspector General didn't didn't seek to second guess them on, 547 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: namely that she set up this offline system, making it 548 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: thereby inevitable given the nature of her job, that there 549 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: would be classified information transitting through the system. I think 550 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 1: that this would have been a pretty straightforward, straight intent case, 551 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: And if I had been a prosecutor designing a prosecution 552 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: on it, I would have argued it as an intent 553 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: case and made gross negligence my even if fallback position, like, 554 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: even if you don't believe our mountain of evidence that 555 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: she intentionally willfully did this, you can still convict her 556 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: if you find that she was grossly negligent. So I 557 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: just think they did a big head fake here and 558 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: to try to get us to talk about this as 559 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: if she didn't do this wilfully and intentionally. Well, and 560 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: there's another statue which they could have brought a case 561 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: against her. And and one of the revealing things in 562 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 1: the Inspector General's report, uh, is that you know, Comy 563 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: Hanks has hat on us. You didn't intend to violate 564 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: the law jeopardize national security. And so they Inspector General 565 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: asked him, uh, well, where do you get intent under 566 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: the gross negligence statute? They seem incongruous, and Comy replies, well, 567 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: it was my understanding that the gross negligence statute requires 568 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: some intent, and he said he got that from the 569 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: legislative history. Well, I've I looked at the legislative history 570 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 1: because originally, when the Espionage Act was passed by Congress, 571 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: he didn't have the gross negligence provision that was added 572 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 1: in the late nineteen forties, and as a Supreme Court 573 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: opinion ex blamed later on, that was because Congress wanted 574 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: to present a lesser uh provision so that it wasn't 575 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: just intent, but it could be gross negligence. And yet 576 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 1: Komy says, the legislative intent, you know, was to have 577 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 1: intent in the gross negligence statute. That's just not true. Yeah. 578 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: You know another reason this is offensive, Greg is every 579 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: single day in courtrooms throughout the United States, federal prosecutors, 580 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: federal prosecutors go into court and tell federal judges you 581 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: are not at liberty to rewrite statutes. By looking at 582 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 1: the legislative history, there's a lot of instances of courts 583 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: trying to add or change the things, the essential elements 584 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: that a that a prosecutor has to establish beyond the 585 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: reason noble doubt in order to convict someone. And the 586 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: Justice department standard response to that is your job, judge, 587 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: with all due respect, is to enforce the statute that 588 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: Congress has written not to go through the voodoo of 589 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: going through legislative history, which is justice. Scalia said, Uh 590 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: is kind of like you know, looking at a at 591 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: a crowd and only picking out your friends. Right, you 592 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: can pass through legislative history and rewrite statutes, uh, willy 593 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: nilly easily. Um. What we're supposed to do, especially when 594 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: a statute presents an unambiguous set of charging language, is 595 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: you're supposed to apply the statute as it's written. And 596 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: you're quite right that the Espionage Act as written by 597 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: Congress is basically a sliding scale of about six different 598 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: levels of conduct, ranging from what you would think of 599 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: as traditional espionage at the top, that is, people who 600 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: commit offenses with an intent to harm the United States. 601 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: Two in the middle, these kind of willful offenses where 602 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: you may not have to intend to harm the United States, 603 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: but you have to act knowingly, knowing that you're putting 604 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: classified information at risk. And then at the very bottom 605 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 1: you have these gross negligence offenses. And Komey was wrong 606 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: to say that this is not a predicate for criminal liability. Traditionally, 607 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: every state in the country criminalizes negligent homicide, for example, 608 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: and in this instance. What we're talking about is not 609 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: a generally applicable law where you're applying negligence to everybody 610 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 1: in a criminal context. You're taking a very special class 611 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: of people, namely government officials who have been indoctrinated in 612 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: the handling of classified information and who are trusted to 613 00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 1: handle it in a responsible way and punishing But not 614 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: until they've been indoctrinated and you're and you can prove 615 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: that they knew what they were doing and they were authorized. Yeah, 616 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: if if it wasn't Hillary Clinton, but Jane Smith or 617 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, John Taylor would with a hundred and ten 618 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:24,760 Speaker 1: classified documents on a private email server, UH Center received 619 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: is classified, would that person have been indicted? I don't 620 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: think there's any question. And I think if you look 621 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: at the military justice system you'll see just those kind 622 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: of cases. Brian Nishimura in particular, really stands out at me. 623 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 1: This is a naval reservist who even the FBI in 624 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: their press release said, um, he did not have malicious intent, 625 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,479 Speaker 1: and yet they charged him and forced him to plead 626 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: guilty to it for the very same thing that Hillary 627 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: Clinton did accept on a much smaller scale. So was 628 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: it uh pure sophistry for Comey to claim in his 629 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: televised statement that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Oh, 630 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: I think I think this was a predetermined outcome. I'm 631 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, as somebody who who knew and admired Comy 632 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: for many years, I'm sorry to see him participate in this, 633 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: But I think that you know, the fact of the 634 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 1: matter is the Obama Justice Department was never going to 635 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: authorize charges against Mrs Clinton. President Obama essentially said as 636 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,320 Speaker 1: much publicly in April of sixteen when he when he 637 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: said that he didn't want her charged, and he laid 638 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: out this theory that they this bogus theory of the 639 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: Espionage Act that they ended up using. Sure, he said, 640 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: I think the FBI just went with the flow. He 641 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,439 Speaker 1: was a conversation he had with Chris Wallace on Fox 642 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: News Sunday, And you're correct about the date of that. 643 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 1: And that was the clearing call. That was the signal 644 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: by Obama. She's erlists but not grossly negligent. And that 645 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 1: is exactly the language that Comey then used. But nobody 646 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: accused President Obama of an attempt to obstruct justice in 647 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: unduly influencing appending investigation and potential prosecution, unlike the allegations 648 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 1: against President Trump. Well, of course, back right, because this 649 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 1: is justice we're talking about. Can I keep you over? 650 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: I want to take a quick break, and if you 651 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: can hang in here for just a couple of minutes, 652 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna be back with Andrew McCarthy. He's quoted in 653 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: my book, which comes out in a couple of weeks, 654 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: The Russia Hoax, the illicit scheme to clear Hillary Clinton 655 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: and frame Donald Trump. Go to Barnes and Noble, dot 656 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: com and pre ordered or Amazon. We'll be right back 657 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: on Greg Jared sitting in for Sean Hannity on the 658 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. 659 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,720 Speaker 1: On Greg Jared sitting in for Sean Hannity. We're talking 660 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: about the Russia hoax. In the summer of two thousand 661 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: and sixteen, James Comy Peter Struck in the whole gang over, 662 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: the FBI launched a an investigation into Trump. There was 663 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: never a whiff of credible evidence to legally justify the probe, 664 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: so in a deception that I think he's worthy of 665 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 1: a solid street hustle, Comy labeled it at counter intelligence matter. 666 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: It was a clever faint that allowed for a covert 667 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 1: criminal investigation in search of a crime. Isn't that reversing 668 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: the legal process? Let's ask Andrew McCarthy, who rejoins his 669 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 1: former federal prosecutor. He's a columnist unmatched really on national 670 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: review and and thanks for being with us again. Didn't 671 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 1: labeling it a counter intelligence matter allow for a criminal 672 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: investigation in search of a crime? Really sort of reversing 673 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: in bastardizing the legal process? Andy, Yeah, Greg, it's actually 674 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 1: the thing that they were worried about in the nineteen 675 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: nineties when they erected the infamous wall, which in the 676 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 1: pre nine eleven days prevented the intelligence side of the 677 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:32,760 Speaker 1: FBI's house from cooperating and sharing information with the criminal 678 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: investigative side. And the reason I mean, I think the 679 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,240 Speaker 1: wall regulations as we as we saw, had catastrophic results. 680 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: And it was at the time we all thought it 681 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: was it was over regulation um, but the idea behind 682 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: it was sound. The idea was that you didn't want 683 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: under circumstances where investigators did not have adequate evidence to 684 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: proceed with a criminal investigation. You didn't want them to 685 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,320 Speaker 1: exploit national security powers as a pretext in order to 686 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: do that. I used to say back then, that's ridiculous. 687 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: No one would ever do that, So you know, mark 688 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 1: that down as yet another thing. But they did it. 689 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 1: They did it here because Comey felt it would would 690 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: give him greater latitude and also he greater ability to 691 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 1: hide what it was he was doing. And that's the 692 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,919 Speaker 1: story of the Russia hoax, the illicit scheme to clear 693 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and framed Donald Trump. The title of my 694 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,320 Speaker 1: new book comes out in a couple of weeks. You 695 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: can buy it online in advance Arnes and Noble, dot Com, Amazon. 696 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: Andrew McCarthy, many many thanks for being with us. I'm 697 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: Greg Jarted. This is the Sean Hannity Show. I think 698 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: there's no question that we've got to critically re examine 699 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 1: ICE and its role and the way that it is 700 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: being administered and the work it is doing, and we 701 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: need to probably think about starting from scratch. I think 702 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: we need to abolish ICE. That seems really clear they 703 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 1: have strayed so far from the risks of the American 704 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: people and the interests of humanity. We need to we 705 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: need to abolish it. Eliminating ICE for instance, and President 706 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 1: Trumpy Rice isn't doing what it was created to do. 707 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: It's being used as his own personal police force, and 708 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: in those actions, it's actually making us less safe. And 709 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,840 Speaker 1: I think you should reimagine ICE under a new agency 710 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: with a very different mission and take those two missions out. 711 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: And so we believe that we should protect families that 712 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 1: need our help, and that is not what ICE is 713 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 1: doing today, and that's why I believe you should get 714 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: rid of it, start over, reimagine it, and build something 715 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 1: that actually works. Well. Those are just some of the 716 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,760 Speaker 1: people that are calling for the abolishment of the US 717 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 1: Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency. You know, these are the 718 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: people that go out and arrest Felon's drug dealers, drug peddlers, rapists, 719 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: people who commit all kinds of behavior and crimes. Welcome 720 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: back to the Sean Hannity Shawn Greg Jarrett in for 721 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,959 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity, who as the day off. Uh, it's really 722 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 1: quite astonishing that people like New York Senator Kristen gillibrand 723 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 1: Mayor Bill de Blasio are now adding their support to 724 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: this cause that is gaining currency in the last twenty 725 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: four hours to get rid of ICE. Joining me now 726 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 1: with their reaction. Chris Cabrera, who is spokesman for the 727 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:38,800 Speaker 1: National Border Patrol Council. Andrew Arthur joins this resident Fellow 728 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 1: in Law and Policy at the Center for Immigration Studies. Um, Andrew, 729 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: let me start with you, what's your reaction to this? 730 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 1: This is just a political stunt. Um these are you know, 731 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 1: when you're talking about elected officials, what they're really complaining about, 732 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,879 Speaker 1: or what they're really saying is they don't want any 733 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: enforcement of the immigration laws in the cure of the 734 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: United States. Well, they're in a unique position as it 735 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,240 Speaker 1: relates to their fellow citizens. They actually get to vote 736 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: on legislation to change the laws. They know that they 737 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: don't have the ability to do that because they know 738 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: they don't have the votes or even the support of 739 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: the American people. So instead they come up with a 740 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: stunt proposal to abolish ICE. I mean, that's the first 741 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 1: thing into The unintended consequences of it are astounding. The 742 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 1: immigration laws exist for a reason. Let's to take the 743 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: wages and working conditions for Americans, both US citizens and 744 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 1: lawful apartment of residence. And you know ICE does so 745 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 1: many other things for in corruption investigations, firearms, smuggling. I mean, 746 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: we want to do away with that quite frankly, I 747 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,760 Speaker 1: like having an agency that prevents firearms and explosives smuggling 748 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 1: and terrorism investigations in the United States as well. Chris, 749 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: what do I mean when you hear people like Senator 750 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: Jillibrand and Mayor to Blasio and others saying get rid 751 00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: of ICE entirely, aren't they really sane? Let's just have 752 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: open borders. Criminals, come on in, have at it will 753 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: be a sanctuary nation for all, including hardcore criminals. Yeah. 754 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 1: You know, I think they're just trying to to deflect 755 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,399 Speaker 1: from the fact that they're not actually doing their job 756 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: or or getting it done. I mean, ICE is doing 757 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 1: exactly what it was designed for, which is enforced the 758 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 1: laws that the Congress puts out there. Uh, you know 759 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,240 Speaker 1: these Congress that people in Congress don't want to actually 760 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: repeal these these laws that they don't like. Instead, they're 761 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 1: trying to abolish an entire federal agency. And that's just ridiculous. 762 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: You know, Chris, I you were recently talking on another 763 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: network about some of the terrible things that you have 764 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: witnessed while working at the border. Describe that, you know, 765 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 1: I think that was just the tip of the iceberg. 766 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 1: You know, what we see out there is as far 767 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 1: as um, unaccompanied children. Um. We don't mean, you know, 768 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 1: kids that are coming in and groups with other people. 769 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: There are kids that are you know, as long as 770 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: as young as two or three four years old that 771 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 1: are out there traveling alone. Um. We found kids, uh, 772 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: eleven year old boy a couple of years ago that 773 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: that died of exposure in the in the brush and 774 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: she had a little pokemon belt on. And that kind 775 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: of stuff really hits home when you have to when 776 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: you see young ones in the river that you have 777 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: to pull out that that didn't quite make it. Um, 778 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 1: it's you know, I think what people are missing. The 779 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: point that that they're missing is these laws are a deterrent. 780 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 1: These uh, these prosecutions are a deterrent for people coming 781 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 1: in this way because too many people fall victim to 782 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: these smugglers on the way here. Um. How do you 783 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: feel about a border wall, Andrew? Let me let me 784 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: put that to you, Andrew, how do you feel about 785 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,800 Speaker 1: a border wall to prevent to help ice and border 786 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: patrol agents. I think that be putting barriers in place 787 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 1: where we need barriers in order to prevent you know, 788 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: large scale movement of people, in order to prevent vehicles 789 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: that might be carrying drugs or other contrabands across the 790 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 1: border is important. But as long as we have the 791 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: the the bad laws in the books, the current iteration 792 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 1: of the Credible Fear law, the tv pr A that 793 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: you requires all unaccompanied alien children to be sent to 794 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: h HS within seventy two hours, all the walls in 795 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 1: the world aren't going to stop the flow of individuals 796 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,839 Speaker 1: who are exploiting the loopholes and the laws in order 797 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 1: to come to the United States. I think that Chris, 798 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: you know, makes a very good point. You know, the 799 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 1: fact is we are encouraging uh, these children to come 800 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: to the United States. You know, we're we we basically 801 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 1: are putting a big you know, lollipop at the border 802 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,720 Speaker 1: to encourage people to come illegally with these bad laws 803 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,239 Speaker 1: that were you know, we just saw two bills. You know, 804 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 1: they had their flaws, but they actually addressed those, uh, 805 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: those loopholes, and quite frankly, I hope that they bring 806 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 1: those provisions up as standalone legislation. Let's get those pass 807 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 1: and you know, let's did that will help us get 808 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: control of the border as well. Is it disappointing, Andrew 809 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 1: that that Congress final leaders like Paul Ryan speaking of 810 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: the House, cannot seem to get the remedies passed through legislation. Well, 811 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: you know, we actually saw a large number of votes 812 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 1: in favor of the good lad Bill. I think it 813 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 1: was a hundred nine votes, which contained you verify. Chris 814 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 1: will tell you, you know, if you have a mandatory 815 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 1: e verify in the United States, that's going to make 816 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 1: his job and the job of all of our border 817 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: patrol agents a lot easier, because people aren't going to 818 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 1: come here for jobs they can't get. When I was 819 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: an immigration judge, the fact is probably of the people 820 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 1: that I saw came to the United States to work, 821 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,239 Speaker 1: and if they can't work, they're not coming. Yeah, you know, Chris, 822 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 1: it's it's a great point that Andrew makes, is that 823 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 1: you know, not everybody that comes to the United States 824 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,800 Speaker 1: is a criminal or has designed to make crimes within 825 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 1: our borders great. Many people just want to come here 826 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 1: for a better life. But the problem is, you know, 827 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 1: they don't wait in line, they don't apply legally, and 828 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,760 Speaker 1: instead they slip across our border and they're looking for jaws, 829 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: and that does a disservice to all of those people 830 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 1: who tried to do it legally and properly by applying 831 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: to come to the United States. UM, it isn't e 832 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: verify really a solution if it is mandatory. Yeah, you know, 833 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 1: I think it is. Um it is one of the 834 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 1: different things that we need in there. And you hit 835 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 1: the nail right on the head. You know, if if 836 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,800 Speaker 1: the first thing you do in our country is illegal, 837 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: what hope do we have of you following any other loss? Um? 838 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: And you know, as far as people hiring and and 839 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 1: it's just exploiting that they're exploiting these people. These these 840 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 1: people that that hire the illegals, they're exploiting them. They're 841 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 1: using them as cheap labor, and they're disposable labor. And 842 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 1: you don't know how many times we've seen somebody call 843 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 1: us out there and say that they needed to report 844 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 1: some some illegals and those happened to be working for them. 845 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 1: They just didn't want to pay them. It happens all 846 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,799 Speaker 1: the time. And you know, there's a lot of people 847 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,839 Speaker 1: that say they mean well, and at the same time 848 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 1: they really don't. They have their own agenda and chief 849 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 1: labors one of those uh, one of those conds. You know, 850 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: Andrew Um Congress has plenary power over immigration, and yet 851 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: and they've passed, you know, laws that you know makes 852 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 1: it illegal to be here illegally. Uh. And if you 853 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 1: commit a crime, uh, you know that changes the equation dramatically. 854 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: And yet you have states and cities and counties that 855 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 1: have passed their own ordinances and laws making them sanctuaries. 856 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 1: How how much of an attraction is that two people 857 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 1: coming to the United States illegally knowing they can go 858 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 1: to San Francisco or other places in California and essentially 859 00:57:55,600 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 1: be protected. That's exactly the point I mean. Thanks. Wary 860 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: cities are another magnet that draw people to enter the 861 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 1: United States illegally. They know that they can, they can 862 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 1: you know, go on American media find these cities, go there, 863 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 1: and they know that they'll be perfectly safe because there Look, 864 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: we have thousands of ice agents, but the fact is 865 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 1: we're a country of three hundred and thirty million people. 866 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 1: Finding any individual alien is like looking for a needle 867 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 1: in a haystack. That's why we have, you know, hundreds 868 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 1: of thousands of aliens who have who are under final 869 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 1: orders of removal. They've been they've received due process, they've 870 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 1: completed their their cases. There's nothing more they can do. 871 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 1: They're under final orders, and yet they're still in the 872 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 1: United States because we can't locate them. Can you imagine 873 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: if we can't locate the people who have already been 874 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 1: ordered deported, what it's going to take to find people 875 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 1: that we don't even that we haven't even identified. Yes, 876 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 1: sanctuary cities are a bad idea. There's one immigration law 877 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 1: in the States that as the immigration law that's been 878 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 1: set by the United States Congress. San Francisco doesn't get 879 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 1: its own immigration policy, California doesn't get it's oh, and 880 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 1: to think otherwise, it's ridiculous, Beau's quite frankly, you're not 881 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 1: going to keep that person in California. They can go 882 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: anywhere in the Union. Uh. And you know that their 883 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 1: down team effects are significant, right. And it's in the Constitution, 884 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 1: by the way, the supremacy clause, so you know, you 885 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,920 Speaker 1: can't pass a law in a city, state or a 886 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 1: county that contravenes federal law, especially when Congress has plenary 887 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 1: power over all immigration matters. I want to say thanks 888 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 1: to Arthur Andrew Arthur, Resident Fellow in Law and Policy 889 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 1: at the Center for Immigration Studies. Chris Cabrera, spokesman for 890 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 1: the National Border Patrol Council. Guys, thanks for being with us, 891 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: Looking forward to your phone calls. Give us a call 892 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 1: on this subject. Eight hundred nine four one seven three 893 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 1: two six. That's eight hundred nine for one. Seawan S E. A. N. 894 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,040 Speaker 1: Shahn's not here today. This is the Sean ha A 895 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 1: d Show. I'm Greg Jarrett sitting in. We'll be right 896 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 1: back with more of your calls. Welcome back to the 897 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg Jarrett sitting in for Sean Hannity, 898 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 1: who has the day off. So we've been talking about 899 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,919 Speaker 1: New York Democratic Senator Kristen Gillibrand and New York Mayor 900 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Bill Deblasio joining others on Capitol Hill who are calling 901 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 1: for abolishing ICE, the U S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency. 902 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: So what do you do about you know, all of 903 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 1: those people who are thousands and thousands that they arrest 904 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: who have committed crimes, uh, and many of them violent crimes. 905 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,680 Speaker 1: Do we just let those people go free continue committing crimes. 906 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 1: Let's go to our telephone lines. John joins US in 907 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,720 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Hi John, what do you think? Hi? Greg? Uh? 908 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Continue on the border. We have a sovereign nation with borders, 909 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 1: and so does Mexico. Why not sanctioned Mexico and stop 910 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 1: all trade with them? If they allow illegals through our borders, 911 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 1: make them protect the border or no trade, then they'll 912 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 1: have something to lose. And on the other hand, if 913 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 1: they cooperate and give them a better fair trade deal, 914 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, I I think that's a great idea. I mean, 915 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 1: the downside, obviously, is that we do get a great 916 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 1: many products from from Mexico that are less expensive because 917 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 1: of their cheaper labor, and that would hurt American consumers. 918 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 1: But there have to be ways that we can um 919 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 1: it threatened to punish Mexico without hurting the American consumer, 920 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:49,520 Speaker 1: to get them to protect the egress from their borders 921 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 1: into the United States. John, I think it's a great idea. 922 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,920 Speaker 1: Let's got a bill in Arizona. Hey Bell, what do 923 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: you think? Hey Greg? Thanks for taking mc call. Enjoy 924 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 1: watching you, listening to you frequently on Hannity. Thank you show. Um. 925 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 1: One of the things that occurred to me here recently 926 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 1: is once again highlighting the hypocrisy of the left. Um, 927 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, you have all these people calling for the 928 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 1: abolition of ICE because they have overstepped their bounds and 929 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 1: all this other jazz. But you know, it seems a 930 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 1: little odd to me that the FBI seems to have 931 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 1: overstepped their bounds a little bit. But I don't hear 932 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,920 Speaker 1: anybody on the left wanting to get rid of the FBI. 933 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,439 Speaker 1: Um finding a little hypocritical. You know, that's a great point. Well, look, 934 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 1: hypocrisy is endemic in Washington, d C. It's a way 935 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 1: of life among politicians, and you know, if they're moving 936 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 1: their lips, they're probably lying. Um, except for the guy 937 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna have on next, which is Louie Gomert, congressman 938 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 1: from Texas, who has always been a straight shooter. And 939 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 1: I've known him for a great many years. He was 940 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 1: a judge before he was a captain in the U. S. Army, 941 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: and he's a great admirer Can and he's gonna be 942 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 1: joining us in just a few minutes to talk about 943 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 1: his questioning of Rod Rosenstein. But you're absolutely right, Bill 944 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 1: from Arizona, when you know, you bring up the point 945 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 1: if we're gonna revamp ice, and fix problems there. And 946 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 1: I frankly don't think that there are any problems with ICE. 947 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 1: I think they do a hell of a great job. 948 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 1: But the people who aren't doing a hell of a 949 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 1: great job are the top officials at the FBI, the 950 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 1: rank and file of the FBI, the hard working agents, 951 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 1: the tens of thousands of them. They're great Americans. They 952 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 1: don't break the law, they don't abuse their positions. But 953 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 1: people like James Gummy and Andrew McCabe and Peter Struck 954 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 1: and Lisa Page and that whole gang of individuals who 955 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 1: appear who have committed corrupt acts, those people and those 956 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,840 Speaker 1: like them, that needs to change. I'm Greg Jared in 957 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 1: for Seawan Hennedy. This is the Sean Hennedy Show. You 958 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 1: said earlier Bruce Orr was not working on the Russia investigation. 959 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 1: Let me ask, here's the knowledge to your knowledge? Did 960 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:21,560 Speaker 1: you not know that Bruce Or was meeting with Christopher 961 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 1: Steele getting the information about the dossier and supplying that 962 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 1: information to the FBI At the same time his wife, 963 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 1: Nellie was working for Fusion GPS that was helping Hillary Clinton. 964 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 1: Did you not know he was doing that for the FBI? 965 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 1: Correct you did not know that, correct, Okay, so he 966 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: officed a couple of doors down, but you had no 967 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 1: idea that he was actually the go between to get 968 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:55,080 Speaker 1: that information. Welcome back to the Seawan Hennedy Show on 969 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 1: Greg Jared and for Shawn Hennedy. The voice you heard 970 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 1: there was Congressman Louie Gomert during yesterday's congressional hearing, questioning 971 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:13,080 Speaker 1: the Deputy Attorney General, the ever clueless Rod Rosenstein. Uh. 972 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: And we're very pleased to have with us Congressman Louis Gomert, 973 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 1: who you should know before he became a congressman, it 974 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 1: was a very fine district court judge in the state 975 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 1: of Texas. And Congressman, thank you for being with us today. Well, 976 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 1: it's my pleasure, Greg, and I can't wait for your 977 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 1: book to come out. And I am thrilled you're the 978 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: guy that has put all this stuff together because it 979 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, it really ought to go in the novel 980 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 1: section because it's just so unbelievable that all of these 981 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,440 Speaker 1: things that we now know are true, uh, actually are true. 982 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable, but we're living through it. And I 983 01:05:55,200 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 1: couldn't believe Rosenstein would fame the kind of ignorance. He did. 984 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 1: He didn't know Bruce Orr was the one that was 985 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 1: getting the information from Christopher Steele and supplying it to 986 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 1: the FBI. My gosh, And I don't know if you saw, 987 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 1: but at the end I was trying to pin him 988 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 1: down on whether he actually read that final application for 989 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 1: warrant that was that where they got to warrant extended 990 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 1: again from the FISA court, and he played ridiculous word games. 991 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 1: I'd say, so you read it and approved it. I 992 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 1: approved it. So you took out the word read it, 993 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 1: you didn't read it. I didn't say that. I know 994 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,959 Speaker 1: weren't incredible word games. But he is not as good 995 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 1: as um say Strock. Strock is very good. He can 996 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: lie and he knows that he knows you know it, 997 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 1: and he could probably pass a polygraph. And I can't 998 01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 1: go into what what what he said it or testified 999 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 1: to a couple of days ago during I was there 1000 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 1: for a number of hours, but I sat there going, Wow, 1001 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 1: he knows that's not true, he knows that we know 1002 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 1: it's not true, but shows no sign. This guy is 1003 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 1: really good at telling lies and controlling his emotions. And 1004 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:22,439 Speaker 1: I realized, oh, he must have been practicing all those 1005 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 1: months year whatever it was on his wife when she 1006 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 1: would ask, what about your relationship with Lisa Page? You 1007 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 1: know he got good overall those many months. Uh. Oh, 1008 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 1: it's nothing. Oh no, this is just wondering about how 1009 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 1: many lies, how he controlled his emotion. But now this 1010 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,960 Speaker 1: country is still in trouble with these guys in control 1011 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:48,000 Speaker 1: of the reigns of justice, because it is not justice 1012 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,520 Speaker 1: we're seeing play out here. Well, I think you're absolutely right, 1013 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 1: And guys who tend to cheat on their wives are 1014 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: pretty adept at lying and so and that would certainly 1015 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,959 Speaker 1: include Peter Strock, who I to vote a good deal 1016 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 1: of the book. Uh, my book that's coming out in 1017 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,960 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks on Peter Struck, Lisa Page, h 1018 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 1: James Comey, Uh, Robert Muller, Hillary Clinton. Certainly the name 1019 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 1: of the book is the Russia Hoax, The Illicit Scheme 1020 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 1: to clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump. Comes out 1021 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 1: of the bookstores in a couple of weeks, but you 1022 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,680 Speaker 1: can order it now on Barnes and Noble dot com 1023 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:28,080 Speaker 1: or Amazon. Uh. And and you know, I'm always tempted 1024 01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:29,680 Speaker 1: to call you a judge because that's how I used 1025 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 1: to know you, but now you're you're a congressman. Were fantastic, 1026 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,880 Speaker 1: Well how you were with Court TV first time I 1027 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,640 Speaker 1: met you and you covered a murder trial that we 1028 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,120 Speaker 1: had to move to Dallas on a change of venue, 1029 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it was like nine or ten 1030 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:50,720 Speaker 1: weeks that I got to uh here, and I'm going, 1031 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 1: this guy knows his stuff. That guy really knows what 1032 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,560 Speaker 1: he's doing. So that's one of the reasons I was 1033 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,920 Speaker 1: so pleased that you were putting all these facts together, 1034 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 1: um in this book. But Greg, if I could mention 1035 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,640 Speaker 1: one thing, and I tried to mention it at the 1036 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,560 Speaker 1: end of my questioning, but everything, you know, the Democrats 1037 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,680 Speaker 1: have tied it over and over. But but Horowitz, the 1038 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:18,639 Speaker 1: Inspector General, found that there was no evidence of any 1039 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:24,200 Speaker 1: bias affecting the outcome. But at page nine of his summary, 1040 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:30,240 Speaker 1: he says, under these circumstances, we did not have confidence 1041 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 1: that Strock's decision, and that's very important. It was Strock's 1042 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:39,040 Speaker 1: decision to prioritize the Russia investigation over following up on 1043 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,920 Speaker 1: the midyear related investigation, which means the Hillary Clinton investigation. 1044 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 1: UH to follow up on the UM emails discovered on 1045 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:54,480 Speaker 1: the Wiener laptop was free from bias. So he wasn't confident, 1046 01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:00,639 Speaker 1: Uh that the Strock's decision, because it was his decision 1047 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 1: to make to end the Hillary Clinton investigation and moved 1048 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:11,600 Speaker 1: to the Trump investigation. They're not confident that that was 1049 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,760 Speaker 1: affected by bias. But Greg, that is one of the 1050 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:19,680 Speaker 1: most outrageous comments that they weren't sure that his decision 1051 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 1: to end investigate Hillary and concentrate on him and investigating 1052 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: Trump was affected was not affected by bias. I mean 1053 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,880 Speaker 1: that whole thing was affected by bias. It could not 1054 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 1: have helped but been affected by bias. So Horowitz, he's 1055 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 1: bound have had some of his Democratic friends over there 1056 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 1: did to him and get him to water that down. 1057 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 1: And I knew that had to be going on when 1058 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,799 Speaker 1: it was taking so long. This is the watering down phase. 1059 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 1: He's got the evidence, hundreds of pages of it, and 1060 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,320 Speaker 1: now he's gonna water down the conclusion so that he 1061 01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,320 Speaker 1: can still be friends with all the Democrats who glove him. 1062 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:05,240 Speaker 1: He structs bias. Peter structs bias was so overt and 1063 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:12,040 Speaker 1: explicit and severe and pervasive that it defines common sense 1064 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,599 Speaker 1: that it did not influence the decisions he was making. 1065 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 1: And I devote many many pages in the book and 1066 01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 1: in two different chapters actually about Peter Struck and Lisa pages, 1067 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:28,879 Speaker 1: text messages, what they mean, and of course the ultimate text, 1068 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 1: which came out just recently in the Inspector General report, 1069 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:37,240 Speaker 1: was you know, will stop Donald Trump from becoming president? 1070 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Congressman, that really that says it all, doesn't it? 1071 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:46,240 Speaker 1: It does says at all and explains exactly why he 1072 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,680 Speaker 1: would shut down the Hillary Clinton investigation he was in 1073 01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 1: charge of. And that really light up and go after 1074 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 1: the Trump investigation because he has just said he is 1075 01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:00,200 Speaker 1: going to stop Trump. And you know, you know, well, 1076 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,679 Speaker 1: you've been a practicing lawyer, You've seen so many trials yourself. 1077 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,439 Speaker 1: You know that people don't come forward and say now 1078 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:13,519 Speaker 1: I'm specifically stating for the record that I intend to 1079 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,200 Speaker 1: have this result. But you can look at what they're doing. 1080 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 1: And when he says now I'm going to stop Trump 1081 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 1: and he charged forward on the Trump investigation and drops 1082 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:30,640 Speaker 1: the Hillary investigation, that is evidence of bias affecting the decisions. 1083 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:37,040 Speaker 1: And I don't it's just incredible that both Howards and 1084 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:41,280 Speaker 1: U current powers that be would allow that to stand 1085 01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,640 Speaker 1: as an official statement. Well, and it was such a 1086 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,480 Speaker 1: it was such an evasion or prevarication when the Inspector 1087 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 1: General said, essentially I can't prove with documents or testimony 1088 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:58,760 Speaker 1: that uh, their bias influenced the decisions that they made. Well, 1089 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,720 Speaker 1: of course, not as you queen out, I mean criminals. 1090 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,760 Speaker 1: You know, a bank robber doesn't put in writing I 1091 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,919 Speaker 1: robbed a bank or won't you know, on on questioning 1092 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,519 Speaker 1: by police admit yeah, I just robbed the bank of 1093 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 1: a mayor. I mean, they don't do that. So so 1094 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,120 Speaker 1: you don't know that you can show what they did 1095 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 1: and that itself in conjunction with things other things that 1096 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,519 Speaker 1: were said, those are proved, just like you know with 1097 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:29,439 Speaker 1: uh the president, well President Obama said, you know, I 1098 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:36,160 Speaker 1: don't believe she intended any violation, any crime. He just 1099 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:42,639 Speaker 1: set the tone. He just transmitted to his buddies that, okay, listen, 1100 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:46,360 Speaker 1: here's the word. We're saying. She didn't have intent, And 1101 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,960 Speaker 1: that word was again used in in our hearing, uh 1102 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,040 Speaker 1: that we don't think there was any intent. Well, as 1103 01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,479 Speaker 1: you know, intent was not an issue, but if you 1104 01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:00,400 Speaker 1: want evidence of an intent. Actually, one of the won's 1105 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 1: dear close personal friends that got Bill Clinton elected president 1106 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:10,800 Speaker 1: gave us an indication of her intent when he said, Uh, well, 1107 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,560 Speaker 1: I would imagine Hillary had this separate server because she 1108 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:19,360 Speaker 1: didn't want Louis Gohmer rifling through her emails. Well, yeah, 1109 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:23,840 Speaker 1: I think that's right. And actually that is an indication 1110 01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 1: that her one of her close friends or political friends 1111 01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:34,000 Speaker 1: knew her intent was to prevent Congress from providing oversight. Clearly, 1112 01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,479 Speaker 1: even James Carvill knew that's why she did it. She 1113 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,920 Speaker 1: did not want oversight of what she was doing. It 1114 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 1: was criminal. You don't even have to prove intent in 1115 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:50,280 Speaker 1: that case. But I tell you, I still just uh 1116 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:55,400 Speaker 1: in disbelief that we're not getting a more thorough investigation 1117 01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:59,599 Speaker 1: into the Wine brothers. Here. You had m. M Roun 1118 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:04,800 Speaker 1: one who spent three to nine months, according to Luke Grozia, 1119 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,560 Speaker 1: did great research on it, three to nine months in Pakistan, 1120 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:13,880 Speaker 1: and he was doing the security and I t work 1121 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:23,120 Speaker 1: on the Democratic National Committee's computer exactly. And uh, in fact, 1122 01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,240 Speaker 1: we know from emails, you know that oh we need 1123 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,200 Speaker 1: Debbie's password, Well you know im Ron has all of 1124 01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:34,760 Speaker 1: those and from what we had learned, UM, one of 1125 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,599 Speaker 1: the comments that have been discovered was that he would 1126 01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 1: work sometimes three days a week at the d n C. 1127 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,960 Speaker 1: We know the DNC wasn't paying him, he was being 1128 01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:49,760 Speaker 1: paid by the Congressional Funds, but he was doing like 1129 01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,640 Speaker 1: three days a week many weeks at the d n 1130 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,719 Speaker 1: C during their work there. And that's why I said before, 1131 01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 1: there's actually more evidence that uh Im Roun a Juan 1132 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:06,519 Speaker 1: in Pakistan not hacked instead of the Russians. The Russians 1133 01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,719 Speaker 1: man got it from the package. The wrong was uploading 1134 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,600 Speaker 1: this stuff to the cloud for goodness sakes, UH and 1135 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 1: and in fact they and they uploaded UH over forty 1136 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:24,680 Speaker 1: different Members of Congresses information to bas Sarah's now the 1137 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 1: Attorney General California, to his UH server and so that 1138 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:34,720 Speaker 1: you could access any one of these dozens of Democratic 1139 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 1: Members of Congresses UH emails, calendars, and in fact we 1140 01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,080 Speaker 1: know from the i G. And by the way, the 1141 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:49,479 Speaker 1: FBI continues to tell their superiors, include including Jeff Sessions, 1142 01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,880 Speaker 1: and look, we keep investigating this one thing and there 1143 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,720 Speaker 1: is absolutely no evidence. There's no evidence. Well I know, 1144 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,120 Speaker 1: and I can tell you the fact, the Inspector General 1145 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,720 Speaker 1: she was amazing UH and she no indications at all 1146 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,640 Speaker 1: that she has any Republican leadings. I understood she had 1147 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:13,080 Speaker 1: been a Democrat, but um, she is also president of 1148 01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:18,360 Speaker 1: an international cyber security organization and she as at the 1149 01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:23,519 Speaker 1: time it's inspector General for the House of Representatives. She 1150 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,880 Speaker 1: started investigating this as soon as she got wind of 1151 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:32,920 Speaker 1: the Wines dealings and and all the improprieties, and she 1152 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,760 Speaker 1: has a massive amount of evidence. Yeah, I'd like to 1153 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:41,280 Speaker 1: see that evidence. Congressman, I'm off against a break. Let 1154 01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,000 Speaker 1: me ask you to stand by for just a moment. 1155 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:48,040 Speaker 1: We're talking with Congressman Louis Gohmert, who was there yesterday 1156 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 1: questioning Rod Rosenstein. I do want to ask him about 1157 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:56,439 Speaker 1: Rosenstein's refusal to recuse himself. Will be right back with 1158 01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,360 Speaker 1: more of the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg jarreted in 1159 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:04,080 Speaker 1: for shaw On. Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. 1160 01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Jared and for Sean Hannity. Yesterday, Rod Rosenstein, 1161 01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,640 Speaker 1: the Deputy Attorney General, said if it were appropriate for 1162 01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,800 Speaker 1: me to recuse myself, I would be more than happy 1163 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,479 Speaker 1: to do so. We're talking with Congressman Louis Gombert, who 1164 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,559 Speaker 1: used to be a judge, and Congressman, put your judge 1165 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,360 Speaker 1: head on if you would for just a moment. Rosenstein 1166 01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 1: was interviewed by the Special Counsel as a key witness 1167 01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:33,040 Speaker 1: a year ago this month. You can't be a witness, 1168 01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 1: an investigator, or a prosecutor and a judge all ruled 1169 01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:40,280 Speaker 1: into one. Can you? No, you cannot. He is one 1170 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,800 Speaker 1: of the most recusable people in the whole group. He 1171 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,880 Speaker 1: if he had that announced of ethics and morality, he 1172 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:50,920 Speaker 1: would never have accepted the responsibility. He was involved in 1173 01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:54,679 Speaker 1: the original Russian investigation of Russia trying to get US 1174 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,960 Speaker 1: uranium and they squelched. That is what it looks to me, 1175 01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,760 Speaker 1: in order that the sale could go through so that 1176 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,320 Speaker 1: Hillary could get a hundred forty five million dollars to 1177 01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:09,559 Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation. Like you say, he's a witness. He wrote 1178 01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:14,400 Speaker 1: the letter that got Comy fired. He has all kinds 1179 01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:18,000 Speaker 1: of reasons that he's recusable, and the fact that he 1180 01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:22,280 Speaker 1: still continues to recuse himself tells you this is not 1181 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,280 Speaker 1: a moral, ethical leader that is handling this stuff. It 1182 01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:30,360 Speaker 1: seems pretty clear to me. Congressman Louis Goner comer, many 1183 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 1: many thanks for being with us this Friday. We always 1184 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:38,200 Speaker 1: appreciate it. I'm sending you my book The Russia Hoax Uh, 1185 01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,439 Speaker 1: the illicit scheme to clare Hillary Clinton and framed Donald Trump. 1186 01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,840 Speaker 1: I hope you'll read it. Well, that guarantee I will. 1187 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,519 Speaker 1: That's one of the very few things we can accept 1188 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:51,120 Speaker 1: when you accept a book. But anyway, thanks so much, Greg, 1189 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,360 Speaker 1: thanks for all your great work. Congressman, thank you very much. 1190 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,040 Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna pause and take a quick break 1191 01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,120 Speaker 1: in just a moment, but give us a call all 1192 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,439 Speaker 1: Our number is eight hundred nine four one seven three 1193 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,880 Speaker 1: two six eight hundred nine four one. Sean, I want 1194 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,120 Speaker 1: to talk to you about my book, The Russia Hoax. 1195 01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,160 Speaker 1: You can go to Barnes and Noble dot com or 1196 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,439 Speaker 1: Amazon and pre order it. It'll be on store shelves 1197 01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,400 Speaker 1: in a week. Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. 1198 01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Jared and for Sean Hannity. Today we've been 1199 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:27,280 Speaker 1: talking about a variety of subjects, including immigration and movement 1200 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:33,679 Speaker 1: by Democrats to abolish ICE, the Immigration and Custom Enforcement Agency. Gee, 1201 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:38,200 Speaker 1: that's a great idea. Not Uh. We've also been talking 1202 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 1: about The Russia Hoax, which is the title of my book, 1203 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,120 Speaker 1: which comes out in a couple of weeks. And speaking 1204 01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 1: of which, Uh, there's some breaking news reported by Fox News. 1205 01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:54,160 Speaker 1: The headline is Michael Flynn's sentencing delayed by Mueller team 1206 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,519 Speaker 1: for the third time. For those of you who haven't 1207 01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,160 Speaker 1: been following it all that closely, Michael Flynn has been 1208 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:05,400 Speaker 1: accused of um giving faults and misleading statements to the 1209 01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,920 Speaker 1: FBI when he was interviewed by two agents, one of 1210 01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:14,760 Speaker 1: which was the infamous Peter Struck Um. It turns out 1211 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,479 Speaker 1: that Peter Struck and the other agent who interviewed Flynn 1212 01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:24,519 Speaker 1: came away from the conversation and told James Comy and 1213 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:29,559 Speaker 1: then Attorney General Sally Yates that Flynn was telling the truth. 1214 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,960 Speaker 1: And yet Robert Mueller, the Special Counsel, knows better than 1215 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,560 Speaker 1: the agents who actually were there and interviewed Flynn and 1216 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,639 Speaker 1: accused of Flynn and charged him with lyne even though 1217 01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,840 Speaker 1: the agents who interviewed him said he was telling the truth, 1218 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:49,519 Speaker 1: he was not lying. Well. The information from those agents 1219 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:54,280 Speaker 1: is what's known as exculpatory evidence, and under the law, 1220 01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:59,280 Speaker 1: exculpatory evidence has to be turned over to Flynn and 1221 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:03,600 Speaker 1: his law years and apparently it was not. Is that 1222 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:10,000 Speaker 1: the reason that Mueller has now voluntarily delayed the sentencing 1223 01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,000 Speaker 1: of Michael Flynn and you know, if you're the judge 1224 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,679 Speaker 1: on this case, wouldn't you be saying to Mr Mueller, 1225 01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:23,280 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, you didn't hand over exculpatory evidence. Uh, 1226 01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:27,280 Speaker 1: why should this man plead guilty. I'm going to set 1227 01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:32,400 Speaker 1: aside the plea and dismiss any potential charges against him. 1228 01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:37,080 Speaker 1: That's a possibility any rate. We don't know, but Flynn 1229 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,560 Speaker 1: wasn't sentenced today. Uh, and I suspect I know the 1230 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:44,280 Speaker 1: reason why. Let's go to our telephone callers. Tim joins 1231 01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:48,880 Speaker 1: Us from Enterprise Alabama. Tim, we were talking about immigration 1232 01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,880 Speaker 1: with a couple of experts on the subject. What are 1233 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:55,719 Speaker 1: your thoughts, Well, when are these open border folks gonna 1234 01:22:55,880 --> 01:23:00,920 Speaker 1: realized that our sovereign borders are akin to the walls 1235 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:05,719 Speaker 1: of our house. The vetting process is just like looking 1236 01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,759 Speaker 1: through the peep hole. Are you going to invite somebody 1237 01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,639 Speaker 1: over to your house that is not going to abide 1238 01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,840 Speaker 1: by your house rules? If Uncle Joe comes over and 1239 01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,840 Speaker 1: he's just a slob and just destroys your house, and 1240 01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,519 Speaker 1: you're gonna let him just hang around and say, hey, thanks, 1241 01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,559 Speaker 1: uncle Joe, it's nice to see you. All these people 1242 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,519 Speaker 1: that are so well off, affluent, I'll bet you, they 1243 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:34,479 Speaker 1: live behind controlled borders, they live in controlled doorman high rises. Um. 1244 01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,880 Speaker 1: Do you think some of these actors and actresses would 1245 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,640 Speaker 1: like me to go out to their walled in enclaves 1246 01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,160 Speaker 1: and say, Hey, your house is nicer than my house. 1247 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,599 Speaker 1: I'm just going to move in. And while I'm here, 1248 01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,840 Speaker 1: why don't you do my laundry? Why don't you feed me? 1249 01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,840 Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. Let me just say 1250 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:57,880 Speaker 1: that not all immigrants are slabs. Um. So I'm sure 1251 01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,800 Speaker 1: you didn't mean to imply that. Um, but look, um, 1252 01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,439 Speaker 1: you know the the analogy is an apt one that 1253 01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:09,200 Speaker 1: we have gated communities, we have walls in our home 1254 01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:13,960 Speaker 1: to protect ourselves. Um, why aren't we protecting the border 1255 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,519 Speaker 1: as well? So it's it's a good point. Let me 1256 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:21,120 Speaker 1: go to Benjamin in Phoenix, Arizona. Um, Benjamin, thanks very 1257 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,639 Speaker 1: much for being well us. What are your thoughts? Hey, Greg, 1258 01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,280 Speaker 1: you can't wait for your book all that kind of stuff. 1259 01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,000 Speaker 1: But I want to get to what I'm gonna say. Uh, 1260 01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 1: I don't know a former Navy seal, um, and I 1261 01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,960 Speaker 1: wanted to just offer my thoughts. I got back from 1262 01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,560 Speaker 1: overseas service in right about when Obama was coming in 1263 01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:43,280 Speaker 1: and I saw. I think what was going on for 1264 01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,800 Speaker 1: what it's worth, and I think where we're at right 1265 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:50,320 Speaker 1: now is we are in a cold civil war. And 1266 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:54,519 Speaker 1: this is part of the just a phase of what 1267 01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,880 Speaker 1: has been against us for arguably the past one years, 1268 01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:03,880 Speaker 1: which is socialism, commune ism, um Nazism, which is is 1269 01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:08,040 Speaker 1: basically good versus evil. It's it's your classic. But um, 1270 01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna just hit a couple of points on this. 1271 01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,439 Speaker 1: You know, in the beginning, they came out with World 1272 01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:18,440 Speaker 1: War One, Woodrow Wilson with progressivism, Lenin with the Russian Revolution, 1273 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:23,800 Speaker 1: and with that the concept of concentration camps came from 1274 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:29,559 Speaker 1: the Gulag, which is communism socialism. The Nazis came around 1275 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:34,000 Speaker 1: after communism and just copied them. And then World War 1276 01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:39,320 Speaker 1: Two happened and they won. Whether on both sides, whether 1277 01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:43,280 Speaker 1: the Nazis won or we want as the allies, communism 1278 01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:47,680 Speaker 1: socialism survived and became solidified. Draw the point together for me, 1279 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:51,160 Speaker 1: were you then the Cold War? I mean, if we 1280 01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:54,679 Speaker 1: actually think we won the Cold War, I think we're 1281 01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:59,200 Speaker 1: just coming out of an occupation by socialism. With this 1282 01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,400 Speaker 1: Cold so a war, we're turning the tied back right 1283 01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:06,240 Speaker 1: now and everybody listening over the past decade has been 1284 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,240 Speaker 1: involved in this, whether they want to or not. You know, 1285 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:13,040 Speaker 1: they're trying to put their policies, the taxes, the um, 1286 01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,439 Speaker 1: getting rid of the Bill of Rights. That's what this 1287 01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:19,559 Speaker 1: is all about, all right. Benjamin in Phoenix, Arizona, thank 1288 01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,320 Speaker 1: you for your thoughts, so we appreciate it. Let me 1289 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:25,599 Speaker 1: get to James in California. UM, who has a pretty 1290 01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,519 Speaker 1: good question I think about an abusive power. James, thanks 1291 01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,719 Speaker 1: for being with us. Yeah, no, my pleasure. You guys 1292 01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:35,920 Speaker 1: are awesome. And it seems to me that these guys 1293 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:39,679 Speaker 1: are so arrogant that they've done this before. So coy. 1294 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:43,719 Speaker 1: It's so evident by the testimony and how they answer 1295 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:48,800 Speaker 1: their questions that this was not the first time that 1296 01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:55,519 Speaker 1: they abused their power, be it in a political situation otherwise. UM. 1297 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,080 Speaker 1: So what you're feeling on that, Yeah, I think you're 1298 01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:03,400 Speaker 1: absolutely right. This is the arrogance of power, and power 1299 01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:07,360 Speaker 1: tends to corrupt. Uh. And as the old saying goes, 1300 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:13,080 Speaker 1: absolute power corrupts absolutely uh. And I think this is 1301 01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,200 Speaker 1: what has happened as the Department of Justice and the 1302 01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:22,840 Speaker 1: FBI have evolved over the years. They view themselves as 1303 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:27,120 Speaker 1: above the law, and that they are accountable to nobody, 1304 01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:32,120 Speaker 1: that they operate in their own world. And you know, 1305 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:36,000 Speaker 1: I blame Congress to some extent because until recently they 1306 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,759 Speaker 1: have never held the Department of Justice and the FBI 1307 01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:45,200 Speaker 1: accountable through oversight, which is their constitutional duty and right, 1308 01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:49,760 Speaker 1: and so for too long the you know, when the 1309 01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:54,000 Speaker 1: Department of Justice and the FBI is faced with questions 1310 01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,880 Speaker 1: by Congress the Oversight Committee or Judiciary Committee or the 1311 01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:05,200 Speaker 1: Intelligence Committee, they drucked. They they conceal evidence and hide information, 1312 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,800 Speaker 1: and they conjure up some fake excuse, oh it's classified, 1313 01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:13,080 Speaker 1: or you know, it's an ongoing and we can't answer 1314 01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:19,360 Speaker 1: it's an ongoing investigation, which are utter canards, especially since 1315 01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:23,200 Speaker 1: um all the members on the Intelligence Committee have security 1316 01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:27,880 Speaker 1: clearance for classified information. But but because Congress didn't press them, 1317 01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,680 Speaker 1: they got away with it, and so they became accustomed 1318 01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:33,840 Speaker 1: to feeling is that we can do anything we want. 1319 01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:38,120 Speaker 1: We can abuse the law, we can abuse our positions, 1320 01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,400 Speaker 1: we can subvert the rule of law, and in this 1321 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,560 Speaker 1: particular case, which is the theme of my book, The 1322 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:54,600 Speaker 1: Russia Hoax, they can undermine democratic politics and an electoral democracy. 1323 01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:56,800 Speaker 1: That's what they were trying to do. They were trying. 1324 01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,599 Speaker 1: James Cumming knew better than those dumb America he thought, 1325 01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,439 Speaker 1: And I'm going to save the nation. I'm going to 1326 01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,439 Speaker 1: clear Hillary Clinton so she can be president, and I'm 1327 01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:13,920 Speaker 1: going to sabotage Donald Trump with a fabricated phony UH theory. 1328 01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna frame Donald Trump, which is again the subtitle 1329 01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,439 Speaker 1: of of my book is the illicit scheme to clear 1330 01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:26,680 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton in frame Donald Trump. It is an abusive power. UH. 1331 01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,639 Speaker 1: And we've seen abuse of power periodically throughout American history. 1332 01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:36,640 Speaker 1: The most recent before this was was certainly Watergate. But 1333 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:42,240 Speaker 1: this may Watergate made pale in comparison to what is occurring. Now. 1334 01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,160 Speaker 1: Let's go to our next caller. UH. Tom joins this. 1335 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:51,160 Speaker 1: Tom and San Diego, which is beautiful town. My cousins 1336 01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:54,240 Speaker 1: lived there. Um, Tom, thank you very much for being 1337 01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:58,519 Speaker 1: with us. What are your thoughts? Oh, Hi, I'm The 1338 01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:01,599 Speaker 1: question I have is why Hilary set up this illegal 1339 01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,240 Speaker 1: email system. She risked so much, given what she knew 1340 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:09,639 Speaker 1: about the laws regarding UH using or setting classified information 1341 01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:13,400 Speaker 1: on something like this, Why did she do it? Well? 1342 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,240 Speaker 1: I devote a chapter of that into my in my book, 1343 01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:19,479 Speaker 1: Chapter four and uh, I believe she did it so 1344 01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:25,479 Speaker 1: that she could hide all of her activities, some of 1345 01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:31,439 Speaker 1: which were likely illegal, That she was using her government 1346 01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:40,120 Speaker 1: position to in exchange for a remuneration from foreign governments 1347 01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:44,360 Speaker 1: to the benefit of her foundation and her husband. She 1348 01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:49,720 Speaker 1: was using her position of power, uh to influence UM, 1349 01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:54,600 Speaker 1: the American government for the benefit of foreign countries. And 1350 01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, she didn't want to be subject to a 1351 01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,320 Speaker 1: Foyer request. And isn't it interesting that she got away 1352 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:05,280 Speaker 1: with it for four years? She managed to avoid all 1353 01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,920 Speaker 1: four your requests for the course of four years, every 1354 01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:12,000 Speaker 1: time somebody submitted a Freedom of Information Act requests the 1355 01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,679 Speaker 1: State Department. So we don't have those documents. We don't 1356 01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:19,479 Speaker 1: have any documents responsive. And why because there was nothing 1357 01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,920 Speaker 1: on her account. Her account didn't exist. And it wasn't 1358 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:29,639 Speaker 1: until the Benghazi Committee began to subpoena records that finally 1359 01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:33,360 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and her lawyers and the State Department coughed 1360 01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,240 Speaker 1: up the truth that she had everything on her private 1361 01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:41,600 Speaker 1: email server, including a hundred and ten classified documents Classified 1362 01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:45,880 Speaker 1: Center received at the time UM, which is arguably a 1363 01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:49,880 Speaker 1: hundred and ten felonies by Hillary Clinton. And so I 1364 01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,320 Speaker 1: think the reason is clear she thought she could get 1365 01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:56,200 Speaker 1: away with it. She almost did, but for Benghazi we 1366 01:31:56,400 --> 01:32:01,280 Speaker 1: may not have known. Even now she had all of 1367 01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,519 Speaker 1: her documents on a private server. Let's got our next caller, 1368 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:09,880 Speaker 1: Stephen Montana. Steve by Greg, I'm knowing you can probably 1369 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:11,599 Speaker 1: have the answer to this in your book. I don't 1370 01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,240 Speaker 1: want to wait the two weeks. Uh. There's two questions. 1371 01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:18,120 Speaker 1: One is, why is it it was okay for Hillary 1372 01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,960 Speaker 1: to use views and GPS to find dirt Russian dirt 1373 01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:25,360 Speaker 1: on Donald Trump, but the Democrats are so incensed about uh, 1374 01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump supposedly getting any dirt on Hillary. And the 1375 01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:32,400 Speaker 1: second question is remembering that Russian lawyer I tell you 1376 01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,040 Speaker 1: not to Scottia or whatever her name was, who had 1377 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:38,400 Speaker 1: the meeting with Donald Trump Jr. Uh, she met with 1378 01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:43,559 Speaker 1: diffusion GPS before and after that meeting. She's never been invested, uh, 1379 01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,760 Speaker 1: interviewed by the Motor team. When you trouble that with 1380 01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:52,719 Speaker 1: a stone approach, I'm looking at this, are these attempts 1381 01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:54,920 Speaker 1: at entrapment and how many trapments do you have to do? 1382 01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,200 Speaker 1: Do that failed? Before you start saying this isn't working well, 1383 01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:00,880 Speaker 1: Robert Muller is in the business of entrapment, and so 1384 01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:04,720 Speaker 1: is the FBI. As for why the Russian lawyer, as 1385 01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:08,240 Speaker 1: of a couple of months ago hadn't been interviewed by 1386 01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:10,679 Speaker 1: the Special Council, I think it's because the Special Council 1387 01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:14,040 Speaker 1: realizes that her meeting in Trump Tower with Donald Trump Jr. 1388 01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:17,920 Speaker 1: And others isn't a violation of any law. Uh. If 1389 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,360 Speaker 1: you look at the Federal Campaign Election Act, it says 1390 01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:24,760 Speaker 1: foreign nationals can participating campaigns, they can attend meetings, they 1391 01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,320 Speaker 1: can provide ideas, they can open their mouths and talks talk. 1392 01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:30,880 Speaker 1: It's not a crime to talk to a Russian. That 1393 01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,640 Speaker 1: was you know, one of the great myths perpetuated by 1394 01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:39,160 Speaker 1: Democrats in the media. Oh, this is collusion. Really, what 1395 01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:43,400 Speaker 1: he is collusion is Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic 1396 01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:46,880 Speaker 1: National Committee paying money to a foreign national, a British 1397 01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:52,280 Speaker 1: spy to talk to Russians, uh, to gather information uh 1398 01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,640 Speaker 1: to be used in a political campaign. That is a 1399 01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:59,120 Speaker 1: crime under the Federal Campaign Election Act. And yet there's 1400 01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:02,960 Speaker 1: no Special can still investigating Hillary Clinton and the Democrats 1401 01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:06,880 Speaker 1: for that. We're gonna pause and take a quick break here. 1402 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna be back with more of your phone calls. 1403 01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:12,479 Speaker 1: Our number is eight hundred nine four one seven three 1404 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:16,320 Speaker 1: two six. I'm Greg Jarted sending in for Sean Hannity. 1405 01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:21,280 Speaker 1: This is the Sean Hannity Show, and welcome back to 1406 01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,759 Speaker 1: the hun Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg Jared in for Sean, 1407 01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,760 Speaker 1: who richly deserves the day off today. It's been a 1408 01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,880 Speaker 1: great opportunity to be here for three hours to talk 1409 01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:35,439 Speaker 1: about my upcoming book, The Russia Hoax, The Illicit Scheme 1410 01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,519 Speaker 1: to clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump. It will 1411 01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,560 Speaker 1: be out in bookstores in a couple of weeks, but 1412 01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,960 Speaker 1: you can pre order it on Barnes and Noble dot 1413 01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:49,160 Speaker 1: com and Amazon dot com, and you can go to 1414 01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:51,320 Speaker 1: Hannity dot com. There's a link there, or go to 1415 01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:54,840 Speaker 1: my at Greg Jared on Twitter. But the title tells 1416 01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,519 Speaker 1: you whether it's about. I lay out the case of 1417 01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:00,280 Speaker 1: how top figures at the FBI and that a Heartment 1418 01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:05,040 Speaker 1: of Justice deliberately used and abused their position of power 1419 01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:10,799 Speaker 1: to subvert our system of justice and undermine the democratic process. 1420 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:15,240 Speaker 1: They twisted and contorted the law to absolve Hillary Clinton, 1421 01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:20,680 Speaker 1: and then they win after Donald Trump without legal justification, 1422 01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:24,800 Speaker 1: to frame him for crimes he did not commit. Thank 1423 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,400 Speaker 1: you for joining us. It's been a great three hours. 1424 01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Jarrett in for Sean Hannity on the Sean 1425 01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,519 Speaker 1: Hannity Show. Have a great weekend everyone,