WEBVTT - Horror in Honolulu: Part Two

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to History on Trial, a production of

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<v Speaker 1>iHeart Podcasts. Listener Discretion advised, Hello, History on Trial listener.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the second part of a two part series.

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<v Speaker 1>If you haven't listened to part one yet, you'll want

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<v Speaker 1>to begin there. Thank you for listening. The Fortescue family

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<v Speaker 1>was used to getting away with things. When Grace Hubbard

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<v Speaker 1>Bell later Grace Fordescue was a teenager, she and her

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<v Speaker 1>friends roller skated down Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>Completely blocking traffic. Another time, she stole a trolley car.

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<v Speaker 1>While others might call these actions criminal, Grace and her

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<v Speaker 1>family called them pranks, and thanks to her family connections.

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<v Speaker 1>Grace's maternal grandfather, Gardner Hubbard, had founded Bell Telephone alongside

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<v Speaker 1>Grace's father's cousin, Alexander Graham Bell, the police always looked

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<v Speaker 1>the other way. Grace's future husband, Rolli, was just as mischievous.

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<v Speaker 1>While a student at Yale, Rolly fired a gun near

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<v Speaker 1>the head of one of his fraternity brothers. Surprisingly, no

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<v Speaker 1>one else but Rolly thought this was funny. Rolly was expelled,

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<v Speaker 1>but thanks to his family connections, Roly was a Roosevelt.

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<v Speaker 1>He was soon admitted to the University of Pennsylvania. Grace

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<v Speaker 1>and Rolly passed their unique senses of humor down to

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<v Speaker 1>their daughters, and in nineteen twenty seven, their eldest daughter, Thalia,

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<v Speaker 1>came up with the best joke of them all. Thaalia's

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<v Speaker 1>future husband, Tommy Massey, was visiting the Fortescues on Long

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<v Speaker 1>Island that summer, and the lovebirds decided to go see

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<v Speaker 1>a movie. In the nineteen twenties, parents attending movies would

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<v Speaker 1>leave their babies in theater lobbies. If a baby cried,

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<v Speaker 1>an usher would come fetch the parents. Seeing all these

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<v Speaker 1>abandoned babies, Tommy and Thalia thought of how absolutely hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>it would be to hide one of these babies, making

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<v Speaker 1>its parents think it had been kidnapped. If you're not laughing,

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<v Speaker 1>neither were the babies distraught parents, who reported the kidnapping

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<v Speaker 1>to the police. The police quickly found the baby and

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<v Speaker 1>arrested Thalia and Tommy. Surely there would be consequences this time,

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<v Speaker 1>but later that night, a judge who knew Thalia's family

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<v Speaker 1>dismissed the case, calling Thalia and Tommy's crime only a

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<v Speaker 1>quote parlor trick, stealing trolley's, shooting guns kidnapping infants. It

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<v Speaker 1>seemed that there was nothing the Fordescue family couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>away with. But in January nineteen thirty two, Grace Fordescue

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<v Speaker 1>would test the limits of just how far the law

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<v Speaker 1>would stretch to accommodate a well connected white woman. Grace

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<v Speaker 1>would find out whether a Fordescue could get away with murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to history on trial. I'm your host, Mira Hayward.

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<v Speaker 1>This week the Territory of Hawaii v. Grace Fordescue at al.

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<v Speaker 1>When Thalia Massey's rape case ended in a mistrial in

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<v Speaker 1>December nineteen thirty one, Admiral Yates Sterling, commandant of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States Navy's fourteenth District, thought he knew just who

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<v Speaker 1>to blame. I was informed reliably that the vote of

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<v Speaker 1>the jury began and remained to the end. Sterling later

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<v Speaker 1>wrote seven for not guilty and five for guilty. The

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<v Speaker 1>exact proportion of yellow and brown to whites on the jury.

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<v Speaker 1>Sterling was not wrong about the proportions, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>wrong about race contributing to the decision. There had, in

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<v Speaker 1>fact been only one white person on the jury, and

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<v Speaker 1>that man had voted to acquit every time the jurors

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<v Speaker 1>had never been split along racial lines. The truth didn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter to Sterling or to many others. It hadn't mattered

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<v Speaker 1>when they had pushed for the conviction of the five

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<v Speaker 1>defendants who were obviously innocent, and it didn't matter now.

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<v Speaker 1>What mattered was that no one was being punished for

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<v Speaker 1>the alleged assault of a white woman. In the weeks

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<v Speaker 1>immediately following the mistrial, unrest rippled through Honolulu. On December twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>the Honolulu Times published an article titled the Shame of Honolulu,

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<v Speaker 1>which claimed that women were at quote risk of being

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<v Speaker 1>assaulted and foully raped by gangs of lust mad youths,

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<v Speaker 1>a phrase which echoed prosecutor Griffith White's description of the

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<v Speaker 1>defendants as quote lust sodden beasts. The Times mailed a

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<v Speaker 1>copy to every sailor at Pearl Harbor. That night, gangs

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<v Speaker 1>of armed navy men took to the streets, starting fights

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<v Speaker 1>at random. But not all the violence was random. A

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<v Speaker 1>group of sailors kidnapped Horace Ida, one of the defendants

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<v Speaker 1>Indhlia's trial, at gunpoint. They took Horace to a remote

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<v Speaker 1>location and demanded a confession. When Horace refused, they beat

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<v Speaker 1>him mercilessly using their belts and guns. The beating only

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<v Speaker 1>stopped when Horace pretended to be unconscious. While many condemned

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<v Speaker 1>the kidnapping, Hawaii, Chinese news questioned if the kidnappers quote

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<v Speaker 1>stupid mob mind accorded with the quote the American principle

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<v Speaker 1>that a man is innocent until he has been proved guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>Many others celebrated it. Admiral Sterling said that the sailors

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<v Speaker 1>had shown restraint in not killing Horace, who Sterling claimed

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<v Speaker 1>had confessed Horace, of course, had done no such thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The same day that Horace Do was kidnapped, Hawaii became

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<v Speaker 1>connected to the United States by radio for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>The Massy story was quickly picked up by mainland news services.

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<v Speaker 1>The Navy, hearing reports of these so called epidemic levels

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<v Speaker 1>of crime in Hawaii, started to question if they ought

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<v Speaker 1>to go forward with a scheduled Pacific Fleet exercise, which

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<v Speaker 1>would have brought thousands of navymen and their wives to Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 1>In February, it was estimated that the fleet's it would

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<v Speaker 1>bring Honulou's merchants more than six million dollars in revenue

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<v Speaker 1>or one hundred and thirty five million dollars in today's money.

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<v Speaker 1>The territorial government, including Governor Lawrence Judd, desperately wanted that payday.

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<v Speaker 1>They hoped that convicting the five defendants in a second

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<v Speaker 1>trial would reassure the Navy, but that conviction was looking

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<v Speaker 1>less and less likely. On December twenty ninth, Chief of

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<v Speaker 1>Detectives John Macintosh held a press conference on the status

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<v Speaker 1>of the investigation and revealed that no new evidence had

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<v Speaker 1>turned up. Grace Fordescue, already furious over gossip about her

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<v Speaker 1>daughter which insinuated that Thalia had made the whole thing up,

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<v Speaker 1>was disturbed by Mackintosh's announcement. Under Hawaii law, if defendants

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<v Speaker 1>were not convicted after two trials, the charges against them

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<v Speaker 1>would be dismissed. Grace was determined not to let this happen,

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<v Speaker 1>so she and her son in law, Tommy Massey started

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<v Speaker 1>to think about how they might uncover some evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>their own. The navyman's kidnapping of Horace Da provided the

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<v Speaker 1>spark of inspiration, but Tommy heard from a lawyer that

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<v Speaker 1>a confession from a man covered in cuts and bruises

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't cut it in court. Grace and Tommy would just

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<v Speaker 1>need to use threats. Of the five defendants, they thought

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Kahahai most likely to cave under pressure. But Joe

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<v Speaker 1>was a big man six feet tall and heavily muscled,

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<v Speaker 1>a former football star and amateur boxer, so Tommy and

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<v Speaker 1>Grace decided to enlist helpers. Machinist's mate albert O Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>or a deacon as everyone knew them, was their first call.

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<v Speaker 1>The Navy had sent Deacon to protect Salia after the

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<v Speaker 1>trial while Tommy went out on c duty again. Deacon

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like Thalia, who he said had quote the personality

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<v Speaker 1>of the bottom of your big toe, but he admired Grace,

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<v Speaker 1>who he called a quote tough old gal. Deacon, who

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<v Speaker 1>claimed to have participated in Horace DA's kidnapping, was only

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<v Speaker 1>too happy to join. Tommy and Grace's plan suggested bringing

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<v Speaker 1>on Fireman for his class Edward j Lord, too, another

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<v Speaker 1>of Eda's kidnappers. The foursome quickly settled on a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe reported to his probation officer at the courthouse. Every

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<v Speaker 1>morning at eight am, the kidnappers would wait outside for

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<v Speaker 1>him and then use a falsified official summons to get

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<v Speaker 1>Joe into their car. Joe had served under a major

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<v Speaker 1>named Ross in the National Guard. Now Ross was helping

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<v Speaker 1>supervise the Guard's territorial police. The summons could be from Ross,

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<v Speaker 1>the kidnappers decided. Grace wrote out the text of the

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<v Speaker 1>summons on a piece of paper, and then, to make

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<v Speaker 1>things look more official, she pasted a newspaper clipping onto

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<v Speaker 1>the sheet. Tommy cut the seal off his Chemical Warfare

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<v Speaker 1>School diploma and added that too, there is something so

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<v Speaker 1>revealing about the ugly arts and crafts childishness of their forgery.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it's a symbol of how lightly, almost gleefully,

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<v Speaker 1>they considered kidnapping a man. On Friday, January eight, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Kahaa and his cousin Eddie Ulie set out for the courthouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe always tried to be punctual for his probation meetings

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<v Speaker 1>and to dress well. Even though Joe knew the charges

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<v Speaker 1>against him were false, His father, Joseph Senior, had encouraged

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<v Speaker 1>Joe to find the silver lining. These probation meetings meant structure,

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<v Speaker 1>and structure could be good for a restless young man.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe had just turned twenty two and his future stretched

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<v Speaker 1>before him. After a brief check in with William Dixon,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe's probation officer. Joe and Eddie headed out into the sunshine.

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie noticed a white woman pointing at Joe. It was

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<v Speaker 1>Grace Fordescue, signaling Deacon Jones, this was their man. Deacon

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<v Speaker 1>hurried after Joe. When Joe and Eddie got close to

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<v Speaker 1>the curb, Deacon grabbed Joe's arm and pulled him toward

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<v Speaker 1>a car idling at the curb. Tommy Massey sat at

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<v Speaker 1>the wheel disguised as a chauffeur. Deacon Wade the summons

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<v Speaker 1>in front of Joe's face, saying, get in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Major Ross wants to see you. Joe got in the

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<v Speaker 1>back seat and waived for Eddie to join him, but

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<v Speaker 1>Deacon shoved Eddie away, flung himself into the back beside Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>and slammed the door. The car sped off. Eddie, stunned,

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<v Speaker 1>was immediately suspicious. Major Ross and the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>Territorial police were based just across the street. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no reason to send a car for Joe with a

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<v Speaker 1>pit in his stomach. Eddie remembered how Horace da had

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<v Speaker 1>been kidnapped the month before. He sprinted into the courthouse

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<v Speaker 1>building and reported that his cousin had been taken. Two

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<v Speaker 1>hours later, at ten twenty am, Officer Thomas Kakua and

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<v Speaker 1>Detective George Harbottle, one of the detectives who had first

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<v Speaker 1>reported to Thalia Massey's house on the night of the

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<v Speaker 1>alleged assault, were chatting on the side of Wylai Avenue

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<v Speaker 1>when they saw a blue Buick drive by a bee on.

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<v Speaker 1>The lookout alert for a blue Buick thought to be

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the kidnapping of Joe Caabai had just blared

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<v Speaker 1>out of Harbottle's patrol car radio. The two officers stared

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<v Speaker 1>hard at the car, noticing that one of the rear

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<v Speaker 1>window shapes was pulled down. What were the occupants hiding?

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<v Speaker 1>Kikua and Harbottle set off in pursuit, following the buick

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<v Speaker 1>towards the coast near Hanama Bay. Harbottle pulled past the buick,

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<v Speaker 1>giving Kikua a chance to glance into the rear seat.

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<v Speaker 1>What the officer saw there horrified him. Harbottle signaled the

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<v Speaker 1>Buick's driver, a grayhaired white woman, to pull over. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>she sped off after pulling a passing patrol car into

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<v Speaker 1>the chase. Harbottle managed to force the buick off the road.

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<v Speaker 1>The waves of the bay crashed against the shore. As

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<v Speaker 1>Harbottle approached, the buick gun drawn and ordered its occupants

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<v Speaker 1>to get out. The driver, grace Fordescue, and the passenger,

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy Massey, slowly left the car. Edward Lord was seated

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<v Speaker 1>in the back. As he swung the rear door open.

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<v Speaker 1>What Officer Kaikua had seen through the window became visible

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<v Speaker 1>to Harbottle, a bundle of white sheets, a human leg

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<v Speaker 1>poking out from the bottom. They had found Joe Cahahaai.

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<v Speaker 1>On Saturday, January tenth, Joe Kahavay's body was laid out

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<v Speaker 1>at the n Uannu Funeral parlor. The twenty two year old,

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<v Speaker 1>so vibrant in life, was silent and still in death.

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<v Speaker 1>His father, Joseph Cahahavai, Senor, and his mother Esther and

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<v Speaker 1>stepfather Pascual Anido sat by Joe's body all night as

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of mourners came to pay their respects. One of

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<v Speaker 1>those mourners was David Kama, a Hawaiian man. Four years earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>David's brother, William, a police officer, had been murdered by

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<v Speaker 1>an American soldier David knew better than most what Joe's

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<v Speaker 1>family was experiencing. With tears streaming down his face, David

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<v Speaker 1>spoke to Joe, saying, poor Cahahaai. These Howleyes murdered you

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<v Speaker 1>in cold blood. They did the same thing to my

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<v Speaker 1>poor brother. The Howleies shoot and kill us Hawaiians. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't shoot Howley's, but they treat us like this. Never mind,

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<v Speaker 1>the truth will come out. You were not wrong. If

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<v Speaker 1>you were, they would not catch these murderers. That is

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<v Speaker 1>why they were caught. Thank god they were caught. Poor boy,

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<v Speaker 1>God will keep you. We will do the rest. David

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<v Speaker 1>Comma was right about catching the murderers. Grace Fordescue, Tommy Massey,

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<v Speaker 1>Edward Lord, and Deacon Jones were all in custody. But

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<v Speaker 1>as for the rest, that was not so straightforward. The

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<v Speaker 1>killers had been charged with murder and the evidence seemed conclusive,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was the Navy to contend with. Only hours

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<v Speaker 1>after the murder, Admiral Yates Sterling showed up at police

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<v Speaker 1>headquarters and demanded custody of the prisoners. Sterling's demand had

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<v Speaker 1>no legal grounds. A recent agreement between the Navy and

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<v Speaker 1>the territorial government gave the civil authorities jurisdiction over murder cases,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter if the suspects were military or civilian, But

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<v Speaker 1>the territorial government was afraid of further upsetting the Navy.

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General Harry Hewitt said he would agree to Sterling's

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<v Speaker 1>request on the condition that the Navy gave them access

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<v Speaker 1>to the suspects at any time. Sterling agreed to Hewitt's

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<v Speaker 1>terms and transferred the prisoners to the USS Alton, a

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<v Speaker 1>decommissioned ship used as a hotel for dignitaries visiting Pearl Harbor. There,

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<v Speaker 1>the four killers lived in luxury. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>the four surviving defendants from the first trial, horas Ida

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Ahaquello, David Takai, and Henry Chang sat in the

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<v Speaker 1>city jail. The police had told the men that the

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<v Speaker 1>jail was the only place they could protect them and

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<v Speaker 1>preserve order. Unlike the Navy's prisoners, who had meals cooked

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<v Speaker 1>for them by the officer's mess the men in the

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<v Speaker 1>city jail were told that their families would have to

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<v Speaker 1>bring food for them if they wanted to eat, and

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<v Speaker 1>the police weren't shy about exploiting the men's vulnerability. They

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<v Speaker 1>soon began conducting interrogations, trying to get the men to

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<v Speaker 1>turn on one another and give evidence in the rape.

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<v Speaker 1>On January twentieth, twelve days after Joe's death, Officer D. W.

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<v Speaker 1>Watson interrogated Ben Ahaquelo, telling him quote, all the howlies

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<v Speaker 1>on the mainland are blaming the Hawaiians. Ben, and these

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<v Speaker 1>people that killed Joe, blame you, fellows. They got one

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<v Speaker 1>Hawaiian and Ben, you are going to be next. They're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get you. Joe got off easy. They just

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<v Speaker 1>shot him. The next time, Ben, they're going to torture you, fellows.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be hell. But even under this enormous pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>which each of the men faced in turn, they all

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<v Speaker 1>continued to swear their innocence. On board the USS Alton,

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<v Speaker 1>Flowers sent by supporters filled the decks, admiring letters poured

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<v Speaker 1>in from across the country congratulating the killers. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to understand this, but, as David Stannard writes in his

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<v Speaker 1>book on the case, Honor Killing, quote the unwritten law,

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<v Speaker 1>the belief that a man has a right to kill

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<v Speaker 1>another man who has assaulted his wife was still widely

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<v Speaker 1>subscribed to by Americans, especially when the rape victim was

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<v Speaker 1>white and the rapist was not. Some people called this

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<v Speaker 1>honor killing, others called it lynching, and oftentimes the victims,

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<v Speaker 1>like Joe Kahai, were only suspected of a crime, not

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<v Speaker 1>proven to be guilty. This kind of killing was not

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<v Speaker 1>just about individual justice. It was also about maintaining a

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<v Speaker 1>white supremacist power structure through a campaign of terror and violence.

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<v Speaker 1>Many white Americans, if they thought about Hawaii at all,

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<v Speaker 1>had thought about it as an idealized, exotic paradise where

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<v Speaker 1>friendly Native Hawaiians obediently served white tourists. But now these

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<v Speaker 1>same white Americans saw the territory as a place in

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<v Speaker 1>need of racial subjugation, thanks to articles like the one

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<v Speaker 1>in Time magazine on jail Danuary eighteenth, which called Hawaii

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<v Speaker 1>quote a restless purgatory of murder and race hatred fueled

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<v Speaker 1>by quote the lust of mixed breeds for white women.

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<v Speaker 1>Editorials throughout the country supported Joe's killers. They also advocated

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<v Speaker 1>for a crackdown on Hawaii, arguing that its territorial government

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<v Speaker 1>was too much in thrall to native Hawaiians and Asians.

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<v Speaker 1>This was good news for Navy officials like Admiral Sterling,

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<v Speaker 1>who had long called for military control of the territory,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a nightmare to Hawaii's Hawley elite, who

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<v Speaker 1>liked the current status quo. Responding to the calls for

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<v Speaker 1>martial law or a government reorganization, one territorial senator said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>we must show that we need no legislation in Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>We must show that we can clean up our own situation.

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<v Speaker 1>To that end, the territorial legislature passed two new bills,

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<v Speaker 1>one which made rape a capital offense and another that

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<v Speaker 1>removed the corroborating evidence requirement for rape convictions. Politicians hoped

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<v Speaker 1>that this would stave off criticism of them being too

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<v Speaker 1>soft on crime, But there was one crime that many

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<v Speaker 1>prominent Howleyes did not want punished, and that, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>was the killing of Jo kah By. The pressure that

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<v Speaker 1>these power brokers exerted became clear in the grand jury

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<v Speaker 1>hearings in late January, when, despite the obvious case against

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<v Speaker 1>Joe's killers, the predominantly white grand jury initially voted nine

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<v Speaker 1>to twelve not to indict. The case could have ended there,

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<v Speaker 1>but Judge Albert M. Christie refused to accept the jury's

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<v Speaker 1>report and told them to deliberate, again reminding them that

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't matter quote whether from some inner feeling of

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<v Speaker 1>your own, you might have committed the same crime. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was not just sympathy blocking the indictment. Many of

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<v Speaker 1>the jurors were clearly frightened of the consequences. When jury

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<v Speaker 1>even asked Judge Christie if quote, in case the grand

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<v Speaker 1>jury is discharged, has any member of the jury the

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<v Speaker 1>right to show the records as to how he stood

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<v Speaker 1>as a protection for himself and the community in which

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<v Speaker 1>he lives. It was only on the second day of deliberations,

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<v Speaker 1>after the jurors on editorial in the Honolulu Star Bulletin,

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<v Speaker 1>which argued that indictment was inevitable given the evidence, that

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<v Speaker 1>the grand jury finally voted to indict. Even then, the

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<v Speaker 1>vote was only twelve to eight and several jurors resigned

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<v Speaker 1>in anger. Grace Fordescue, Tommy Massey, Edward Lord, and Deacon

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<v Speaker 1>Jones would be tried for the murder of Joe Kahahabai,

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<v Speaker 1>but many worried if the grand jury had been this difficult,

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<v Speaker 1>what would happen at trial. Grace Fordescue, for one, felt

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<v Speaker 1>confident about the trial. She still seemed to be treating

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<v Speaker 1>this as one of the Fordescue family's famous pranks. In

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<v Speaker 1>her first official interview, given to The New York Times

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<v Speaker 1>on February seventh, the report described her as joking and

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<v Speaker 1>laughing with Tommy Deacon and Edward. Perhaps Grace was right

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<v Speaker 1>to relax. Her family connections had always come through for her,

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<v Speaker 1>and this time was no exception. Not long after the indictment,

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<v Speaker 1>Grace's brother in law managed to recruit one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most famous lawyers in America, Clarence Darrow. We've met Clarence

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<v Speaker 1>Darrow before in our episode about the Leopold and Loeb trial.

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<v Speaker 1>In that case, Darrow had defended unsympathetic wealthy clients on

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<v Speaker 1>a murder charge. But there was a major difference between

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<v Speaker 1>that trial and this one. This time, the murder victim

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't white. Clarence Darrow had long thought of himself as

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<v Speaker 1>a champion for racial equality. How could he justify defending

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<v Speaker 1>the killers of Joe Cahavai. But as in the Leopold

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<v Speaker 1>and Loeb trial, Darrow had a compelling reason to join

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<v Speaker 1>the Fordescue case. Money. The Great Depression had wiped out

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<v Speaker 1>the Darrow family's coffers after two exhausting years touring the

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<v Speaker 1>country as a speaker, Darrow had managed to make enough

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<v Speaker 1>money to pay off his adult son's debts, but he

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<v Speaker 1>and his wife Ruby were barely keeping themselves afloat. He

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<v Speaker 1>told grace Fordescue that he required forty thousand dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>payment plus expenses for context Babe. Ruth's salary in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two was only seventy five thousand dollars. Grace Fordescue,

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<v Speaker 1>despite her aristocratic pretensions, had no money of her own,

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<v Speaker 1>but fortunately she had dozens of wealthy friends, all eager

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<v Speaker 1>to help her out, not to mention the enlisted men

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<v Speaker 1>at Pearl Harbor who collected seven thousand dollars for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon enough, the money was raised and Darrow came on board.

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<v Speaker 1>He then immediately tried to back out, stung by his

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<v Speaker 1>friend's fury at his decision, But in the end Darrow

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<v Speaker 1>wanted the money and he wanted to see Hawaii. George S. Leisure,

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<v Speaker 1>a New York attorney and darrow superfan, agreed to join

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<v Speaker 1>the case for free in exchange for a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>work with his hero. Leisure and Darrow would be facing

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<v Speaker 1>John Kelly, the recently appointed Honolulu City and County Attorney.

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<v Speaker 1>The forty six year old Kelly, a native Montanan, was

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<v Speaker 1>a brilliant, tenacious lawyer, but this would be his first

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<v Speaker 1>case in his new role and it would not be

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<v Speaker 1>an easy one. Kelly was glad to have the assistance

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<v Speaker 1>of Barry Ulrich. Ulrich had been hired by the Honolulu

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<v Speaker 1>Chamber of Commerce to assist Kelly with the retrial of

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<v Speaker 1>Thalia Massey's alleged rapists. When the Chamber realized that the

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<v Speaker 1>murder trial would come first, they pulled their funding for Ulrich,

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<v Speaker 1>but Ulrich decided to stay on in an unofficial, unpaid capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>Darrow Leisure, Ulrich, and Kelly would be battling in the

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<v Speaker 1>court room of Judge Charles S. Davis. After the grand

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<v Speaker 1>jury proceedings. The defense had filed claims of bias against

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Christie. Christie strenuously denied any bias, but said that

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<v Speaker 1>in order to prevent any appearance of impropriety in the

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming trial, he would step aside. The forty two year

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<v Speaker 1>old Davis was his replacement. On April fourth, jury selection began.

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<v Speaker 1>The lawyers immediately encountered a hurdle. No one wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>serve on the jury. Aware of the stakes this case

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<v Speaker 1>had for Hawaii, and concerned about the impact the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>verdict might have on their lives, many jurors tried to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of serving by claiming to have fixed opinions

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<v Speaker 1>on the case. Fed up after hearing this excuse repeatedly,

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<v Speaker 1>Clarence Darrow asked one juror just when he had formed

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<v Speaker 1>his fixed opinion night before last, right after being summoned.

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<v Speaker 1>The juror replied. Finally, after seven days of jury selection,

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<v Speaker 1>a panel was formed. To be more precise, it was

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<v Speaker 1>actually more like three and a half days. Throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>trial court would adjourn at twelve each day, out of

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<v Speaker 1>consideration for the seventy five year old Clarence Darrow's well being. Darrow,

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<v Speaker 1>out of consideration for this consideration, spent most afternoons on

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<v Speaker 1>the beach. On April eleventh, John Kelly delivered the prosecution's

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<v Speaker 1>opening argument. Watching Kelly's adroit presentation, in which he declared

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<v Speaker 1>that the crime was premeditated and discussed the evidence you

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<v Speaker 1>would use to prove this, you wouldn't have guessed that

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecutor was panicking, But Kelly had recently received bad

0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>news when he and Darrow had first met in late March.

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Darrow had rejected the suggestion that he was considering an

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<v Speaker 1>insanity defense, but on April eighth, Kelly read in The

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times that Darrow had hired two famous psychiatrists

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<v Speaker 1>to testify. Kelly was furious with himself for falling for

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<v Speaker 1>Darrow's charade and was scrambling to find experts of his

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<v Speaker 1>own who could get to Hawaii in time. For now,

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<v Speaker 1>all Kelly could do was present the best case he had. Fortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>for him, that case was a very good one. Kelly's

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<v Speaker 1>first witnesses, including Joe's cousin Eddie Ulie, and various police

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<v Speaker 1>officers who had arrested the defendants, laid out the timeline

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<v Speaker 1>of the abduction, murder, and attempted disposal of Joe's body.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly used these witnesses to bring in a plethora of exhibits.

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<v Speaker 1>There were the pictures of grace Fordescue's bedroom with the

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<v Speaker 1>sheets missing from the bed and the sheets found wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>around Joe's body which were missing, laundry tags, and the

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<v Speaker 1>laundry tags a prison matron had found in grace Fordescue's

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<v Speaker 1>coat pocket. There was the coil of rope found in

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<v Speaker 1>Grace's house, which had a unique purple strand interlaced in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the identical rope found around Joe's body, And

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<v Speaker 1>then there was the gun. The murder weapon had not

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<v Speaker 1>been found and never would be. Thirty years later, Ballia's

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>younger sister, Helene would tell a reporter, Peter Van Slingerland,

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<v Speaker 1>that she'd helped hide the gun, throwing it into a

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<v Speaker 1>pool of quicksand at an out of the way beach.

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<v Speaker 1>So John Kelly had to make do with what he had.

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<v Speaker 1>A thirty two caliber bullet casing and the magazine clip

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<v Speaker 1>for a thirty two caliber automatic with one bullet missing,

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<v Speaker 1>both found on Deacon Jones after his arrest. The clip

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<v Speaker 1>had been and the fake summons used to lure Joe

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<v Speaker 1>into the car. At trial, Kelly produced thirty two caliber

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:09.880
<v Speaker 1>slug taken from Joe's body and showed that it fit

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 1>perfectly into the clip. Throughout the course of three days

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty five witnesses, the prosecution meticulously painted a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of the crime. After abducting Joe from outside the courthouse,

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<v Speaker 1>the defendants had driven him to Grace Fordescu's house, where

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<v Speaker 1>they'd interrogated him at gunpoint. At some point one of

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<v Speaker 1>them shot him. The lack of injuries on Joe's body

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<v Speaker 1>and the angle of his bullet wound. City and County

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<v Speaker 1>physician doctor Robert B. Faus testified, indicated that there had

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<v Speaker 1>been no struggle and that Joe had been sitting when

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<v Speaker 1>he was shot. Then the defendants had wrapped Joe's body

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<v Speaker 1>in the sheets from Grace's bed and driven him towards

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<v Speaker 1>the coastline, where they planned to dump his body into

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<v Speaker 1>the sea. With his last witness, Kelly, imbued this evidentiary

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<v Speaker 1>picture with emotion. On the warning of Thursday, April fourteenth,

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:07.439
<v Speaker 1>Joe's mother, Esther Anito, took the stand. Esther identified Joe's

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 1>bloodstained clothing, describing how she had mended and cleaned each

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>garment as the image of a mother lovingly laundering her

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>son's clothes, unaware that he would soon die in them.

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<v Speaker 1>Hung over the courtroom. The prosecution rested. On Friday, April fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>Clarence Darrow began the defense's case. Darrow was famous for

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>his courtroom speeches, but to everyone's surprise, he waived his

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>opening statement and moved straight into testimony, calling Lieutenant Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>Massey to the stand. It didn't take long for Darrow

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<v Speaker 1>to begin asking Tommy about the rape case. John Kelly

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>immediately objected. Throughout the trial, Kelly had fought to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the rape case out, arguing that quote, as a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of law, Joseph Kajahavai could be as guilty as any

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.199
<v Speaker 1>man could be, and still that does not provide an

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>excuse for killing him. Darrow, of course wanted the case

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<v Speaker 1>in and now he argued that it was necessary as

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<v Speaker 1>part of an insanity defense for quote the one who

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:13.920
<v Speaker 1>shot the pistol. Judge Davis allowed Darrow to continue. At first,

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Darrow didn't make it clear just who the one who

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<v Speaker 1>shot the pistol was. Instead, he had Tommy tell the

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 1>story of Thalia's alleged assault. In Tommy's account, Joe kaha

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Bai had been the ringleader, and Thalia had not been

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the only one traumatized. Tommy himself suffered for months, unable

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>to eat or sleep, so concerned was he about his

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>wife and so angry about the rumors that claimed Thalia

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>was making it all up. With this history established, Darrow

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>now revealed to the court that Tommy was the killer,

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>well not the killer, per se in Darrow's words, quote

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the gun was in his hand when the shot was fired.

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Whether he knew what he was doing at the time

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:05.479
<v Speaker 1>is another question. According to Tommy's subsequent testimony, the answer

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to that question was no, he did not know what

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>he was doing. Tommy described abducting Joe and interrogating him.

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Tommy said Joe had refused to confess until finally, after

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>being threatened with a beating, which Tommy claimed was only

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>a bluff, Joe admitted, quote, yes, we done it, And

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>then Tommy said his mind went blank. He could not

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>remember anything from that moment until the moment he came

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>to an hour later on the side of the road

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>being arrested. He did not know how he had gotten there.

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>He did not know what had happened to Joe or

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:45.719
<v Speaker 1>to the gun. John Kelly wasn't buying it. For the

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>rest of the day. On cross examination, he pushed Tommy

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:50.959
<v Speaker 1>on the story, trying to get him to slip up,

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 1>but Tommy maintained his composure and claimed to remember nothing.

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>It was only the next Monday when court resumed that

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Kelly finally got under tommy skin. Mister Massey, Kelly asked,

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 1>have you ever been implicated in a kidnapping plot before

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>this case, No, Sir, Tommy said, what about the summer

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen twenty seven when a baby went missing from

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>a movie theater. Tommy immediately became defensive and tried to

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>deny the story. When he finally admitted to having been

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>arrested for kidnapping, he claimed that Thalia had just taken

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the baby for a little walk to try to soothe it, which,

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>sure Tommy's evasiveness on the kidnapping question didn't look good,

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>but that was about the only point Kelly got over

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>on him. The rest of the cross examination was uneventful.

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>With their next two witnesses, the psychiatrist's doctor Thomas j.

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Orbison and doctor Edward H. Williams, the defense hoped to

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>give some scientific legitimacy to Tommy's amnesia claim. Both doctors

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 1>claimed that Tommy suffered from a glandular condition that caused

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>him to experience temporary insanity, which they called dementia, triggered

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>by the extreme emotions brought on by sale as assault.

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Annie Lowry, a columnist for Hirst, summed up many people's

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>skepticism about this testimony when she asked in an editorial quote,

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>do people with dementia take a mother in law into

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>sailors along as a usual thing? But the actual testimony

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>of the psychiatrists was less important to Darrow than the

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>opportunity they offered. On cross examination, prosecutor Barry Ulrich asked

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>doctor Williams, quote, isn't it true that insanity please are

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 1>used to introduce evidence that could not be brought in otherwise.

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Williams responded that this did happen sometimes, but never

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>thinks to doctors only lawyers. Ulrich, sliding his eyes toward

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the defense table, said, as in this case, this case

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>doesn't come into argument at all. Darrow exclaimed. Ulrich had

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>clearly hit a nerve. This was exactly what Darrow was

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>doing in this case. Introducing the insanity angle allowed the

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>defense to discuss the rape case in the context of

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Tommy Massey's psychologue background. The rape case, in turn allowed

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 1>the defense to appeal to the jury's sympathy for the

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Massy family and speak to the unwritten law of avenging

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>one's wife. Darrow could deny his strategy all he liked.

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>His next witness confirmed just what he was doing. It

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>was Thalia Massey. John Kelly objected to Thalia telling the

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>story of her alleged assault. Judge Davis instructed Thalia to

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>limit her testimony to things she said to her husband

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>that might have affected his mental state. Darrow was undaunted

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>by this limitation, walking Thalia through the entire story. When

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Kelly objected, which he did frequently, Darrow would argue that

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>it went to Tommy's state of mind, and Judge Davis

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>would allow it. After telling the story of her alleged

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:49.959
<v Speaker 1>assault in emotional detail, Thalia described how Tommy had cared

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>for her, depicting him as a devoted husband distraught over

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>her suffering. During a brief recess, she stumbled into Tommy's

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>arms and he soothed her as she nuzzled her head

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>head into his neck. Her testimony was enormously moving, many

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>watching pride. On cross examination, John Kelly took things slow,

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>asking Thalia about minor details of her story. Then, several

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>minutes in, he asked Thalia if Tommy was always as

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>kind to her as she'd testified. Of course he was,

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Dahlia replied, pulling out a sheaf of papers. Kelly then asked,

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>did you have a psychopathic examination at the university last summer. Yes,

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Thahlia acknowledged, I went to see Professor Kelly. Professor Lowell

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Kelly was the psychologist Thalia had briefly consulted with the

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>previous summer. Under his care, she had filled out a

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>long survey about her marriage, detailing how much she and

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Tommy resented each other, how unhappy their marriage was, and

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>how poorly they treated one another. Now, Kelly passed a

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.959
<v Speaker 1>copy of this survey to Thalia and asked, is this

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 1>your handwriting? There came a transformation, wrote a New York

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Times reporter watching in the courtroom, quote from the pathetic

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>looking figure into a woman who, with low voice but

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>blazing face, turned on the prosecutor. Where did you get this?

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Thlia asked, I'm asking the questions, not answering them. Kelly

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>shot back, has her husband always been kind to you?

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Thalia stared Kelly down, saying, don't you know this is

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>a confidential communication between doctor and patient. You have no

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>right to bring this into the courtroom. And then she

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>began tearing the paper, slowly at first, and then more frantically,

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>until it lay in shreds beneath her hands. It was

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 1>quite the display the white women in the audience began

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to applaud John Kelly, less impressed, dismissed Thalia from the stand,

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>saying quote, thank you, missus Massey, at last you have

0:34:55.719 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>shown yourself in your true colors. After getting Judge Davis

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 1>to strike Kelly's dig the defense rested, but the case

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 1>was not quite over. The prosecution had several rebuttal witnesses.

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.439
<v Speaker 1>John Kelly had managed to get psychiatric experts of his own.

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 1>The first two experts testified that they did not believe

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 1>that Tommy was insane and disputed Williams and Orbison's conclusions.

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Their testimony didn't add much. The third expert, doctor Joseph Catton,

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 1>was a different story. A personable, well spoken psychiatrist with

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:31.320
<v Speaker 1>a knack for explaining complicated medical concepts. Catton quickly caught

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 1>and held the jury's attention. He provided them with a

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>new narrative of Tommy Massey's actions. He was not insane,

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Catton argued, he was just angry. For all of Catton's

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>persuasive powers, the final witness made the biggest impact. This

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>was doctor Robert Fauss, the City and County attorney. He

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 1>had already testified earlier in the case, but was back

0:35:56.120 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to provide some important medical evidence. Previously, use had explained

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>that the bullet had penetrated Joe's pulmonary artery, causing massive hemorrhage,

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 1>but Kelly wanted Faus to explain what exactly death in

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:13.280
<v Speaker 1>this manner would look like. In your opinion, he asked

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:17.240
<v Speaker 1>how long after Khahabiah was shot would it take before

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>death would ensue. After Joe was shot, Faus testified he

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>was likely conscious for three to five minutes and lived

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>for fifteen to twenty minutes in total. In other words,

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:35.720
<v Speaker 1>the defendants had time to call for help. When Barry

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Ulrich delivered the prosecution's first closing argument the next morning,

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>he was quick to invoke Faus's testimony, saying, quote, Obviously,

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.479
<v Speaker 1>the defendants had no way of knowing he was going

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.320
<v Speaker 1>to die, that the bullet had pierced a vital spot.

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.959
<v Speaker 1>They had a telephone, There are plenty of doctors in town.

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Why didn't they do something if they didn't want him

0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:00.919
<v Speaker 1>to die? They let him die because they wanted him

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to die. The defense has told you a lot about

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:08.359
<v Speaker 1>the presumption of innocence. What presumption of innocence did they

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 1>give that Hawaiian boy? After reminding the jurors of the

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>evidence of premeditation, like the multiple loaded guns the defendants

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:19.720
<v Speaker 1>had brought or the rope they had on hand, Ulrich

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 1>reminded jurors of the stakes, saying, far more hangs on

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 1>this trial than the fate of these four defendants. Our

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:32.720
<v Speaker 1>power of self government is being questioned you, jurors, the judge.

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>The people of this territory are on trial, charged with

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>not being able to govern ourselves. No, twelve people in

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.840
<v Speaker 1>the territory are charged with a greater responsibility than you.

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 1>But Ulrich was certain that the jury would meet that responsibility,

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:52.720
<v Speaker 1>concluding quote, the defendants are guilty. It is a plain

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and obvious fact. They not only admit it, they proclaim it.

0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:00.839
<v Speaker 1>The eyes of the world are upon Hawaii, and you

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>must answer that challenge. We ask you to convict these

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>four defendants of murder. George Leisure was up next. He

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 1>had clearly trained in the Griffith White school of closing arguments.

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 1>His brief argument brimmed with overwrought phrases and dramatic imagery.

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>By the end, he'd worked himself up to the point

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:26.439
<v Speaker 1>of justifying Joe's death, saying his death was just under

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the laws of God and a direct consequence of his

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>own acts. Do you suppose the cruel appetite of this

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:36.919
<v Speaker 1>man would have been satiated by one drunken debauch. No,

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>his next victim might have been your wife or sister.

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Clarence S. Darrow was left to do clean up after

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 1>this charming performance. Fortunately, he was a closing specialist, known

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 1>for his epic arguments. Like Leisures and Whites, Darrow's arguments

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:57.760
<v Speaker 1>were often based on emotional appeals, but they were less crude,

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 1>as David Stanner describes it. Quote at the core of

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Darrow's courtroom technique with his insistence that a rigidly, narrow

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 1>minded and punitive approach to the law was foolish and cruel,

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>that true justice demanded an understanding of the facts as

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:16.799
<v Speaker 1>they appeared to the defendants at the time they did

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:20.320
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was they were accused of doing. And while

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:23.879
<v Speaker 1>for the most part I sympathize with this philosophy, it's

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>hard to apply it in this case. But Darrow did

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>his best. He portrayed the Massies and Grace Fortesquieu as

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:34.720
<v Speaker 1>beleaguered victims attacked on all sides by the ravages of fate.

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Like Barry Ulrich, he reminded jurors of the stakes for

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 1>all of Hawaii, but Darrow took a different angle. Convicting

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the defendants. He said, would quote place a blot upon

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the fair name of these islands, that all the Pacific

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 1>seas would never wash away. He urged jurors to listen

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to quote every instinct that moves human beings, every feeling

0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 1>that within you. You can't fight against it. If you do,

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>you will fight against nature. You are in a position

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to heal. Darrow concluded, you are not a people to

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 1>take and destroy. I ask you to be kind, understanding, considerate,

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>both to the living and to the dead. John Kelly

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 1>had the last word. Acknowledging everyone's exhaustion, he promised to

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 1>be brief, and he was. He attacked Tommy Massey, saying, quote,

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the best you can say for Massy is that he

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 1>lied like a gentleman and had a very convenient memory.

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>The defense must take you for a bunch of morons.

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Is there going to be one law for strangers in

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 1>our midst and another for you and me? And if

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Tommy Massey got away with this, what was next? Kelly

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 1>asked if the serpent of lynch law is allowed to

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 1>raise its head in these islands, Kelly warned, watch out.

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>He emphasized the cruelty of the killing, saying, quote, three

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>able men and a cold, calculating woman let that man

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>bleed to death in front of them, inch by inch.

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>They let him die. They dragged him into the bathroom

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>like a dog and let him die. If the defense

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:23.280
<v Speaker 1>wanted to appeal to sympathy, Kelly would do the same.

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Mister Darrow has spoken of mother love, Kelly said, repeatedly.

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>He has spoken of missus Fordescue as the mother in

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:37.280
<v Speaker 1>this courtroom. Well, there is another mother in this courtroom.

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Has Missus Fordescue lost her daughter? Has Massey lost his wife?

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Kelly gazed at Esther and Pascual Anito and Joseph Cahajave

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Senior for a long moment, then turning back to the jury,

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>he asked one final question, where is cahaha I? Judge

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Davis gave the jury careful and thorough instructions. He explained

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 1>that they could find the defendants not guilty or in

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Tommy's case, not guilty by reason of insanity if they

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 1>wished to acquit. If they decided to convict, they could

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>find the defendants guilty of first degree murder, which required premeditation,

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 1>second degree murder, which required malice a forethought, or manslaughter,

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 1>which required neither premeditation nor malice a forethought, only unlawful killing.

0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:31.280
<v Speaker 1>At four thirty pm on Wednesday, April twenty seventh, Davis

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 1>dismissed the jurors to deliberate. The jurors had technically been

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 1>sequestered throughout the trial, but they were not completely cut

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:42.280
<v Speaker 1>off from the outside world. The hotel they'd been lodged

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>at was filled with reporters, and the jurors, many of

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 1>whom had connections to the Navy or to Hawaii's powerful

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 1>sugar companies, knew all too well the potential consequences for

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>themselves and their families should they not make the right decision.

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:01.800
<v Speaker 1>With all of that in mind, they embarked on their deliberations,

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 1>which rolled through Wednesday evening into Thursday, and then Friday.

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>By Friday afternoon, Judge Davis was becoming concerned that no

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 1>verdict was forthcoming. He told Kelly and Darrow that he

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 1>planned to check in with the jurors if they told

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 1>him that a verdict was unlikely, He would dismiss them

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:24.719
<v Speaker 1>and declare a mistrial. Clara and Starow pushed back. He

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and many others had heard rumors that the jury was

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:31.880
<v Speaker 1>currently ten to two for acquittal. He didn't want to

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:33.919
<v Speaker 1>cut them off before they got all the way there.

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 1>At four pm, the jurors filed back into the courtroom.

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:42.359
<v Speaker 1>In response to Judge Davis's question, Jury Foreman Johnstone told

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:44.720
<v Speaker 1>the court that he believed they would reach a verdict.

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Davis sent them off to do so. Their decision came

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>only an hour later. By the time everyone had made

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 1>it back to the courtroom, it was five thirty pm.

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 1>The bailiff ordered the four defendants to stand. Dalia stood

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 1>up beside them. The bailiff told her to sit. Foreman

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Stone handed the jury's verdict to the court clerk, who

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:09.839
<v Speaker 1>passed them to Judge Davis. Whence the judge had read them,

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 1>he indicated for the clerk to read them aloud. The

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:19.320
<v Speaker 1>defendants each received their own individual verdict. Tommy Massey's came first,

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:24.320
<v Speaker 1>then Grace Fordescu's, then Deacon Jones and Edward Lords. Each

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>verdict said the same thing. In the death of Joe Kahahaai,

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 1>we the jury find the defendant guilty of manslaughter. Leniency

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:43.839
<v Speaker 1>recommended the guilty verdicts, though they might seem inevitable to us,

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 1>given the facts of the case, came as a surprise

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:51.280
<v Speaker 1>to almost everyone in nineteen thirty two. Like Clarence Darrow,

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 1>most people had expected an acquittal or a hung jury.

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>They had expected the seven white jurors to block a conviction,

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 1>but interviews with the jurors revealed that the deliberations had

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 1>been more nuanced than that. While the jurors had initially

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.800
<v Speaker 1>voted along racial lines, seven to acquit, five to convict,

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 1>none of the jurors believed that Tommy Massey was insane,

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 1>nor did they believe that Joe Kahavi's killing was justified.

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Whether or not he was guilty, The jurors who wanted

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>to acquit felt bad for the Massies and did not

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 1>believe that the killing was premeditated or committed with malice

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:30.279
<v Speaker 1>of forethought. On the second day of deliberations, a compromise

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:34.719
<v Speaker 1>was reached manslaughter. By the time Judge Davis summoned the

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:37.839
<v Speaker 1>jury to the courtroom on Friday afternoon, the jurors were

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:41.720
<v Speaker 1>eleven to one in favor of conviction. The holdout. Juror

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.560
<v Speaker 1>finally agreed for conviction as long as a request for

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 1>leniency was included in the verdict. As juror Theodor Char

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 1>put it about the compromises they made, quote, Cahavai was killed,

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and we could not allow ourselves to be swayed by emotions.

0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Law and order must prevail for the sake of the

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:04.839
<v Speaker 1>best interests of Hawaii. Many people in Hawaii agreed with Char.

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:08.840
<v Speaker 1>The verdict is regarded here as in strict conformance with

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:12.240
<v Speaker 1>the law, perfectly supported by the evidence, and the best

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 1>thing that could happen in the islands, wrote the Chicago

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Tribunes Philip Kinsley. Reactions were much less measured. On the mainland.

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:24.880
<v Speaker 1>White commentators were furious and convinced that the verdict proved

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the need for martial law in the islands. Write or

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:30.320
<v Speaker 1>why are your representatives in the Senate and the House

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:35.800
<v Speaker 1>to do what they can? Implored NBC radio broadcaster Floyd Gibbons,

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 1>not only to knock down that verdict, but to make

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 1>life safe for our American women in Hawaii. Congress was

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:46.439
<v Speaker 1>way ahead of Gibbons. Within hours of the verdict, more

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>than a hundred congressmen had signed a petition urging Governor

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence Judd to pardon the convicted killers. Afraid that Congress

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 1>would impose martial law or perhaps a boycott of Hawaiian products,

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:03.760
<v Speaker 1>jud began to con sitter his options. On Wednesday, May fourth,

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:06.719
<v Speaker 1>the defendants appeared in front of Judge Davis for sentencing.

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Though the jurors had included a request for leniency in

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>their verdict, leniency was not within Judge Davis's power, even

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 1>should he wish to grant it. The law in Hawaii

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:21.399
<v Speaker 1>mandated ten years of hard labor for manslaughter, and this

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 1>is what he sentenced each of the defendants to. In turn,

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you'd expect this sentence to sober Grace, Fortescue and the others,

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:36.520
<v Speaker 1>But as confused onlookers noted, the defendants seemed delighted. The

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 1>reason for their happiness soon became clear. Forty minutes later,

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:44.919
<v Speaker 1>at a press conference, Governor Judd announced quote, the four

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 1>defendants were sentenced this morning, in accordance with territorial law,

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 1>to ten years in prison. Acting on a petition of

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the four defendants, joined by counsel for the defendants, and

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 1>in view of the recommendations of the jury, I am

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 1>commuting the sentence to one hour. The remainder of the

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:10.320
<v Speaker 1>defendants so called sentence, was spent taking pictures and chatting

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:14.400
<v Speaker 1>with the reporters behind Iolani Palace. Clarence Darrow made a

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:17.880
<v Speaker 1>point of thanking the press, who quote, have given this

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 1>case wide publicity so that it went before a jury

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>of one hundred million people, most of whom are not

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>hampered by absurd rules of law and do not believe

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:31.800
<v Speaker 1>statutes are better than human beings. Many in Hawaii, however,

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:36.359
<v Speaker 1>were furious at Judd. Princess Abigail Kavana Nakoa, who had

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:41.040
<v Speaker 1>helped ben Ahaquelo's mother Aggi find a good lawyer, declared, quote,

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 1>with this commutation, the verdict of a jury composed of

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 1>men with intelligence, sound judgment, and good character, with the

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 1>facts and the law before them, becomes a farce. Three

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:57.800
<v Speaker 1>days later, Clarence Darrow was on board Esteemship waving goodbye

0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 1>to Honolulu. With him were Grace Fordescue, and Tommy and

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Thalia Massey. There had been a brief kerfuffle during boarding

0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 1>when a Honolulu police officer had tried to serve Thalia

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 1>with a subpoena to testify in her rape Case's retrial,

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:15.960
<v Speaker 1>but a helpful Navy officer held the police officer off.

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Though many people had wanted to see the rape case retried,

0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:23.840
<v Speaker 1>including the defendants who wished to clear their names, Darrow

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 1>had counseled Thalia not to testify again. He later claimed

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:31.400
<v Speaker 1>he'd done so to protect both Thalia and quote the

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 1>island that I had learned to love. But perhaps he

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:39.359
<v Speaker 1>had doubts about Thalia's story. Even then, if he did

0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:43.680
<v Speaker 1>doubt Salia, he had good reason to. Several months after

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Thalia left Hawaii, John Kelly convinced the territorial government to

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:51.359
<v Speaker 1>hire the Pinkerton Detective Agency to conduct a new investigation

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:55.359
<v Speaker 1>of her case. The Pinkertons undertook a three month investigation

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:58.840
<v Speaker 1>in the summer of nineteen thirty two, interviewing hundreds of

0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 1>witnesses and review all available evidence. In the end, they

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 1>concluded that quote it is impossible to escape the conviction

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 1>that the kidnapping and assault was not caused by those accused,

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:16.880
<v Speaker 1>as they quote had no opportunity to commit the kidnapping

0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and the rape. Moreover, quote, we have found nothing in

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the record of this case, nor have we, through our

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:28.600
<v Speaker 1>own efforts, been able to find what in our estimation

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:33.280
<v Speaker 1>would be sufficient corroboration of the statements of Missus Massey

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:38.440
<v Speaker 1>to establish the occurrence of rape upon her. In other words,

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:44.320
<v Speaker 1>none of it was true. Governor Judd tried to suppress

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:48.359
<v Speaker 1>the Pinkerton Report, but John Kelly forced his hand. On

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 1>February thirteenth, nineteen thirty three, Kelly filed a motion to

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:56.720
<v Speaker 1>dismiss the charges against the four surviving defendants, Horace Ida,

0:50:56.880 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Ben Ahaquello, Henry Chang, and David ta Kai. Kelly attached

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:04.479
<v Speaker 1>a summary of the Pinkerton Report to his motion. Soon

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the report's conclusions were national news. Thalia publicly attacked the

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Pinkerton Report, seeming to enjoy the renewed spotlight. She spun

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:18.560
<v Speaker 1>elaborate stories to reporters of a vast Hawaiian conspiracy against her,

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 1>which no one took seriously. A year later, Thalia was

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:25.840
<v Speaker 1>back in the news, this time because she and Tommy

0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:30.480
<v Speaker 1>were divorcing. She told reporters that Tommy had initiated the divorce,

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:33.959
<v Speaker 1>which was granted on February twenty third, nineteen thirty four,

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:39.239
<v Speaker 1>the same night Thalia attempted suicide. She would attempt suicide

0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 1>several more times over the next year. For the rest

0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:45.480
<v Speaker 1>of her life, she moved across the country, supported by

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:48.440
<v Speaker 1>an allowance from her mother, and racking up a variety

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:52.840
<v Speaker 1>of criminal charges, mainly for public drunkenness, drunk driving, or

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:57.439
<v Speaker 1>once for severely beating her pregnant landlord. Thalia Massey died

0:51:57.480 --> 0:52:01.760
<v Speaker 1>from an overdose of barbituates on July seven, nineteen sixty three.

0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Tommy Massey remarried after his divorce and continued on with

0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:09.920
<v Speaker 1>his navy career, but in nineteen forty he started displaying

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 1>erratic behavior. Eventually sent to a naval hospital, Tommy was

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:17.759
<v Speaker 1>diagnosed with manic depressive psychosis. He was discharged from the

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Navy later that year and lived in San Diego for

0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the rest of his life. On January eighth, nineteen eighty seven,

0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 1>exactly fifty five years after Joe Kavy's murder, Tommy Massey died,

0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:35.320
<v Speaker 1>aged eighty eight. Whether or not symptoms of Tommy's mania

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:38.359
<v Speaker 1>and psychosis had been present in nineteen thirty two and

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:41.759
<v Speaker 1>played a role in Joe's kidnapping is unknown, but they

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 1>certainly did not play a part in Joe's murder, because,

0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:51.080
<v Speaker 1>despite the defense's claims, Tommy Massey was not the shooter.

0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:56.480
<v Speaker 1>In nineteen sixty six, journalist Peter Van Slingerland interviewed Deacon

0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Jones for his book on the case, Something Terrible Has Happened.

0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Deacon seemed delighted to reminisce over the crime and to

0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:08.440
<v Speaker 1>provide Van Slingerland with his version of what exactly had happened.

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:13.319
<v Speaker 1>On January eighth, nineteen thirty two, according to Deacon, he

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and Tommy Massey had driven Joe back to Grace's house.

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 1>While they waited for Edward and Grace to arrive, they

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 1>were driving in another car. Deacon and Tommy interrogated Joe.

0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Although Deacon claimed that quote, I didn't fear the black bastard,

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:33.360
<v Speaker 1>he still kept his gun trained on Joe. Then, Deacon explained,

0:53:33.560 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 1>quote Massey asked him a question, and cahahabe lunged at him.

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I say lunged. Somebody else might say he just leaned forward.

0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:47.160
<v Speaker 1>And then Van Slingerland asked, I shot him, Deacon said,

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:52.400
<v Speaker 1>echoing Darrow's insanity defense. Van Slingerland asked, did you know

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 1>what you were doing when I shot that son of

0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:57.960
<v Speaker 1>a bitch? Deacon replied, I knew what I was doing.

0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Deacon also explained that it had been Clarence Darrow's idea

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:05.640
<v Speaker 1>for Tommy to take the blame, since quote Tommy had

0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:08.800
<v Speaker 1>a motive and the reason. After all, it was his wife.

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Having already been convicted for manslaughter and served his sentence.

0:54:14.040 --> 0:54:18.360
<v Speaker 1>As it was, Deacon Jones would face no consequences for

0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:23.520
<v Speaker 1>his confession. Grace Fordescue, too, seemed free of any pangs

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 1>of conscience. After leaving Hawaii, she wrote her own account

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 1>of the murder and the trial, which she titled and

0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I wish I was making this up quote the Honolulu Martyrdom. Later,

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:39.840
<v Speaker 1>with her financial troubles ended by a large inheritance, Grace

0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:43.160
<v Speaker 1>built a mansion in Palm Beach, which she called Ile

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Home because it was decorated in a Hawaiian theme. Grace

0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Fordescue died on June twenty fourth, nineteen seventy nine, in

0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:57.839
<v Speaker 1>Palm Beach. Joe Cahajave's friends and co defendants, Horace Da

0:54:58.040 --> 0:55:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Ben Ahaquelo, Henry Chang, and David Takai, did not have

0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:05.720
<v Speaker 1>the luxury of moving on so completely. After the initial

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:09.040
<v Speaker 1>burst of news about the Pinkerton Report, stories about the

0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:13.960
<v Speaker 1>report's conclusion had been intentionally suppressed, leaving many people unaware

0:55:14.040 --> 0:55:18.520
<v Speaker 1>that the men had been comprehensively exonerated. Ben Ahaquillo was

0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:21.240
<v Speaker 1>the only one to ever speak publicly about the case,

0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:24.799
<v Speaker 1>granting an interview to the Honolulu Star Bulletin in June

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:28.440
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty eight. My family has carried the burden of

0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:32.480
<v Speaker 1>this for thirty five years, Ben said. He explained that

0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:35.080
<v Speaker 1>he'd tried to keep the story from his children, but

0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that they had learned about it from friends. Another defendant,

0:55:38.640 --> 0:55:42.319
<v Speaker 1>David Standard, writes quote was urged on his deathbed to

0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:45.560
<v Speaker 1>tell the truth about what really happened. Some of Joe

0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Cahahavai's family members changed their last name to avoid painful associations.

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Though the Massy case is replete with tragedy, it has

0:55:55.600 --> 0:56:00.360
<v Speaker 1>its inspiring moments too. Despite pressure from the mainland press

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and despite interventions of the local Howy elite, including a

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:09.080
<v Speaker 1>police captain who manufactured evidence, a prosecutor who suppressed facts,

0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:12.799
<v Speaker 1>and a governor who commuted a sentence, the juries in

0:56:12.880 --> 0:56:17.320
<v Speaker 1>both trials stood by their own consciences, refusing to punish

0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:22.520
<v Speaker 1>innocent men or exonerate guilty ones. The events of nineteen

0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:26.800
<v Speaker 1>thirty one and nineteen thirty two, writes David's Stannard changed

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Hawaii permanently. In the nineteen twenties, Life for most non

0:56:31.440 --> 0:56:34.920
<v Speaker 1>whites in the islands had been a nightmare, especially for

0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:38.360
<v Speaker 1>those laboring on the plantations or locked away in the slums,

0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:42.360
<v Speaker 1>pitted against one another as they struggled to survive. In

0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:46.200
<v Speaker 1>the midst of the Massy Fortescue turmoil. However, and especially

0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:49.880
<v Speaker 1>after the killing of Joe Kahahavai, krack started to appear

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:55.640
<v Speaker 1>in what for years had been a monolithic social order. Hawaiian, Japanese, Chinese,

0:56:55.719 --> 0:57:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and Filipino community leaders began meeting and finding more common

0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:05.320
<v Speaker 1>ground than ever before. This new interracial solidarity ushered in

0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:09.279
<v Speaker 1>political reforms, labor victories, and a sense of community in

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the islands. The changes wrought by the Massy Fortescue trials

0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:17.400
<v Speaker 1>are not comprehensive. Native Hawaiians are still fighting to regain

0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the lands stolen from them by the American government, for example,

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:27.080
<v Speaker 1>but they are profound. In the weeks after Joe Kahahaai's funeral,

0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:31.840
<v Speaker 1>rain storms battered Oahu. Nineteen thirty one had been a

0:57:31.920 --> 0:57:36.480
<v Speaker 1>dry year. January of nineteen thirty two saw ceaseless rain

0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:41.400
<v Speaker 1>in the hills. The dry red soil found itself lifted

0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and carried downhill, where it slid into streams, coloring them

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<v Speaker 1>a deep red. In Hawaiian, this rain is called Uacoco

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<v Speaker 1>blood rain. These red waters, spilling over the banks of rivers,

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<v Speaker 1>carried with them the memory of violent death, but they

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<v Speaker 1>carried promise to enriching the earth so something new and

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<v Speaker 1>Race Rape, and Clarence S. Darrow's Spectacular Last Case, as

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