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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Best Fridays in Football, presented by by

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Speaker 1: Star Credit Union with New York Times best selling author

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Speaker 1: Buddy Martin and Jacksonville Jaguar's head coach Urban Meyer. The

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Speaker 1: Best Fridays in Football starts right now. Okay, I guess

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Speaker 1: it's Sam's welcome back, my podcast partner. We did this

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Speaker 1: a year ago and I'm so happy he's doing me again.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much to Urban and the Jacksonville jaguarris

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Speaker 1: chance to do this program called the Best Fridays in Football,

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Speaker 1: and since it's not Friday and it's not football, just

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Speaker 1: have to be the summertime preview edition with coach Urban Meyer.

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Speaker 1: Coach is great to be with you again, one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite people. Buddy, good to see you. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: You know, we did this last year and one of

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Speaker 1: the things we promised ourselves we're gonna celebrate football. We

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Speaker 1: were also going to be transparent about things involving people

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Speaker 1: old and the traditions of the game. And I found

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Speaker 1: it very enlightening and enjoyed it. And thanks but let

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Speaker 1: me do this again, and there is no script, we

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Speaker 1: just do it here. And uh so let's start out

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Speaker 1: with this one. I talked to you three weeks before

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Speaker 1: you took the job as the coach of the Jacquelin

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Speaker 1: Jaguars NFL career. Really surprised, please happy for you. And

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Speaker 1: I asked the question, and I'll ask it again Why

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Speaker 1: I've been asked that question a lot. Um. I think

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Speaker 1: you know me, uh that it would have to be

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Speaker 1: a really good situation. I had a great I have

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Speaker 1: a great life. Um, you know, it's healthy and working

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Speaker 1: at an incredible place with Fox. But you know, I

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Speaker 1: actually we can have this conversation. But you know I

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Speaker 1: was on this phone call this zoom called it several

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Speaker 1: CEO s us and I shared this with Amy Policic

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Speaker 1: a minute ago. And and it's really, I mean kind of.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those ones. You know, things cross your

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Speaker 1: you know, come across and it was like someone hit

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Speaker 1: you right in the face and was Opportunities are only

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Speaker 1: opportunities if you take advantage of them. And every day,

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Speaker 1: opportunities walk right in front of us, whether it be family,

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Speaker 1: whether it be spiritual, or whether it be in your

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Speaker 1: corporate life and in your job, I shouldn't say corporate,

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Speaker 1: in your in your job, in your professional life. And

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Speaker 1: so many times you me have seen an opportunity. We

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Speaker 1: didn't take advantage of it. And that came across and

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Speaker 1: I was talking to these CEOs and and so I

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Speaker 1: kind of started it. And you should have heard some

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Speaker 1: of the conversation we had. And it's not that the smartest,

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Speaker 1: the not necessarily the hardest working all those some people

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Speaker 1: get great things happen, But it's if you have to

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Speaker 1: really look and say why. There's a lot of variables.

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Speaker 1: But they saw an opportunity they took it. Now, it's

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Speaker 1: an educated opportunity. Can't just jump into the abyss and

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Speaker 1: not know what you're getting into. But I looked at

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Speaker 1: this buddy as an opportunity. I did research on an owner,

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Speaker 1: and the owner is the primary reason why I took

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Speaker 1: this job. Once I spent time with him, once I

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Speaker 1: did my homework on them, once we had those hard conversations.

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Speaker 1: Another reason is is nine oh four is Jacksonville. I

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Speaker 1: love Jacksonville. I love I've always enjoyed coming down here,

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Speaker 1: and most importantly, I've not been disappointed as I recruited

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Speaker 1: down here for many many years. We visited for many

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Speaker 1: many years. It's the people and they want to win

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Speaker 1: don't think we can have some success. We have the

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Speaker 1: which I believe we did a good job. We had

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Speaker 1: most important, we had a good core group of players.

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Speaker 1: So that's the why. I know it's a little long answer,

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Speaker 1: people say you had it all. I mean, you had

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Speaker 1: a beautiful family. You still do. You had a beautiful

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Speaker 1: of the stone. And yet there was something you wanted

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Speaker 1: You know, this is this was a twelve month project

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Speaker 1: these guys real click Lou Holtz, Earl Bruce, what he hazes,

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Speaker 1: Sonny Lubick, and anybody else, and what pieces of them

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Speaker 1: I'm humbled by those names you just mentioned because I

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Speaker 1: great mentors. Lou Holtz was one of my early mentors,

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Speaker 1: a professional baseball player. Yeah, such a great baseball player.

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Speaker 1: That put out the pins for what's happening in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: And he shows the commitment that he has the city

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Speaker 1: And Uh, he's an interesting guy. Uh, he's a guy

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Speaker 1: way too early to start evaluating talent, obviously, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: Words Jack Wards, Thanks Servant, Thanks to tell Terry Bradshaw,

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