1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: Third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 2: Now our friend Alex Barronson back in the mix. He 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: is author of the sub stack Unreported Truths. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: And also you. 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Can check out Pandemia, which is book about the madness 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: of the pandemic and fauciism and all the rest of it. 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: And Alex, I'll just remind everybody it was on this show, 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: I would say, now three years and about two months ago, 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: right near when Clay and I started, where you were like, hey, guys, 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: the data on the vaccine shows that they really don't 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: stop you from getting COVID at all. And I will, 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: I will just it was only you know, it was 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: three years and two months. It was like July of 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, and I remember you were saying it, 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: and we let you say it, and we believed that, 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: you know, you knew what you were talking about. But 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: at the time that was a oh my gosh moment 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: for a lot of people. 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, no, I mean it was. And look, as 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: we know, three years later, COVID he's with us, it 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 3: will be with us forever. The vaccines, you know, did 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: not change that. You know, no one's gonna get smallpox, 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: no one's gonna get polio, but people are gonna get COVID's. 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: That's the difference between a real vaccine and what was 25 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: sold to us in twenty twenty one. And the fact 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: of the public health and I know this is not 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: really what we're talking about today, yeah, but the fact 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: that the public health authorities and the you know, and 29 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: the and the media on the left won't just admit that. Okay, 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: just admit that, and then we can go from there, like, 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 3: admit that you promised something that didn't happen, and maybe 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 3: you'll get some trust back. 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: Maybe, And they're not doing that at all. In fact, 34 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: what I'm just what we wanted to have you want 35 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: to talk about, I just play. I wanted to give 36 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: him the occasional victory lap here because you know, some 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: people were right, some people were wrong on this one. 38 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: Alex was right, big time, bigly, huge correct, you could say. 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: Al Alex Fauci's top advisor, Fox had a story on 40 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: this just last week, offering apologies and excuses for COVID 41 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: email revelations. This was up on the House What House 42 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: Oversight Committee hearing, and it turns out that some of 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: the top fauciites were hiding hiding email correspondence about all 44 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: this stuff. What can you tell us about all this? 45 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: So this is really an amazing story. And I and 46 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: you know, we're really only I think actually in early 47 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: innings on this believe it or not. So look in 48 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: you know, the beginning of twenty twenty, COVID comes, you know, 49 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: comes out right in China and Wuhan, China. There's this 50 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: new respiratory virus. And almost immediately there's a concerted campaign 51 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: at the top of the US scientific establishment to say 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 3: this can't have come from a lamp. Yes, there was 53 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 3: a lab in Wuhan called the Wuhan Institute of Virology, 54 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: but no, it did not come from there. If you 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: say it came from there, you're racist or any Chinese. 56 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: You can say that Chinese ran discussing what market and 57 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: you know flaughtered animals live and you know, but that's fine, 58 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 3: but do not say this came from a lab. It's 59 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: not the result the lab work. And I mean, and 60 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: that was not that was not subtle. It was very 61 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: loudly proclaimed. Okay, So what we now know on on 62 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: the sort of scientific side, is that it's quite likely 63 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: that it did come from that lab. Okay, as anybody 64 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: with the brain sort of could have thought was at 65 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: least a real possibility at the time, because because as 66 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 3: John Stewart famously said in twenty twenty one, if there's 67 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: a giant chocolate leak in Hersey, in Hershey, Pennsylvania, maybe 68 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: it was a chocolate factory. Okay, maybe all the risky 69 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: work these guys were doing at this lab had something 70 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: to do with the emergence of this virus. Okay. So 71 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: that's part one. Okay, then part two is it turned 72 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: And this is what we're coming to now in twenty 73 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: twenty four, we still don't have evidence out of China. 74 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: We don't have you know, we're probably we're going to 75 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: get inside that lab or probably never being an independent investigation. 76 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: But what is coming out now is the is the 77 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: cover up of the cover up, okay, the US led 78 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: cover up of the Chinese cover up, which is there 79 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: were there were people at the very top of nih 80 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: and I'm not saying that they knew that they were 81 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: certain that this was a lab leak, but they were 82 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: certainly worried about it, and they knew they knew that 83 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 3: the US had funded research that looked very bad in 84 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: the light of what had happened in China, and they 85 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: went out of their way to discourage these you know, anybody, 86 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: any independent journalists, any you know, scientists from investigating this. 87 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: And then as people started to try to get to 88 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: what was happening inside nih and this is really what 89 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: came out last week. These people did everything they could 90 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: to hide their actions. They they deleted emails, they used 91 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: their Gmail accounts, try to have phone conversations instead of 92 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: you know, instead of anything that they would have to 93 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: turn over. And the guy you're talking about, his name 94 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: David Morens, David Morrin's a very long time advisor to Fauci, 95 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 3: more than two decades. And the documents, I mean, it's 96 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 3: very very rare to see documents this damning come out 97 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 3: where David Morens actually said, I'm not going to use 98 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 3: my official email accounts. I want to use Gmail. It's 99 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: not foilable. And you guys, the people he was emailing 100 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: with should do the same. And by the way, if 101 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: I have important documents, and this is the part where 102 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 3: we're just beginning to see the next step, if I 103 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: have important documents to give to Tony, to Anthony Asfauci, 104 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 3: that man at the center of all of this, I 105 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: give them to him in person or at his home, 106 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: or I use his Gmail account. So what that means 107 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: is that Tony Fauci, we need to know what documents 108 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: he got, and there are going to be people who 109 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: know that. There's going to be places these documents are are. 110 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: We just have to get to them. 111 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 4: Okay, Alex, you're a former New York Times reporter. When 112 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: I hear everything that you just laid out, if we 113 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 4: had a truly honest and not propagate Ganda Leyden media, 114 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: wouldn't this be the equivalent of if you're a great 115 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 4: white shark, they're being just tons of chum in the water, 116 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: and this be something that an honest media would aggressively 117 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,559 Speaker 4: cover and go after. At the time, Fauci was correct 118 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong, the highest paid employee in all 119 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 4: of the federal government. He's been testifying like crazy in 120 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 4: front of Congress. Wouldn't this be the actual perfect distillation 121 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 4: of going after powerful people. If we had an honest media, 122 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: wouldn't The New York Times, the Washington Post, these usual 123 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 4: supposed vanguards of protecting the democratic process, wouldn't they be 124 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: after this? So far it appears they aren't as a 125 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: former New York Times reporter, just analyze where we are 126 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 4: that that could be the case. 127 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, you're you're absolutely correct. I mean, here's 128 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: an amazing thing. Okay, last week, the Democrats, it wasn't 129 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: as the Republicans on this House committee. The Democrats said 130 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: to David Morns, we can't believe this, we can't believe 131 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: that you said this stuff and that you did this stuff. 132 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: And one of them, a Democratic congressman from Maryland, actually 133 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: basically told them to stop testifying that he was, you know, 134 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: creating criminal problems for himself in doing so. I mean 135 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: he didn't come out and say that explicitly, but that 136 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: was definitely the subtext of what was said to David 137 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: Warren's blest week. So the Democrats are in front of 138 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: the media on this. That's what's so unbelievable, and you're 139 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: absolutely right. This is you know, COVID, COVID killed you know, 140 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: we we could talk about who died, but COVID killed 141 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: a lot of people in twenty twenty twenty one, millions 142 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: of people worldwide. That's absolutely the case. The US, you know, 143 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: US lab work or US funded lab work may have 144 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: had something to do with that we don't know, but 145 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: certainly there's very good you know, there's a lot of 146 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: circumstantial evidence. Tony Fauci is at the middle of all 147 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,119 Speaker 3: of this. Now we know Tony Fauci and people close 148 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: to him appear to have gone out of their way 149 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: to have violated federal records laws. I mean, yes, how 150 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: is this not? How is this not a story that 151 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: every good journalist in the in the in the country 152 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 3: is not bang at. It's an incredible. 153 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: Story, it absolutely is. I mean I'm seeing here. I 154 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: forgot to say. There's no worry about foyas. This is 155 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: one of his emails. I can either send stuff to 156 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: Tony on his private Gmail or hand it to him 157 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: at work or at his house. He is too smart 158 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: to let colleagues send him stuff that could cause trouble. Okay, 159 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: that's from Naiad nih from David Moraan. 160 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: You think it's incredible, it's you know, look, I wrote 161 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: a stack about this. Like if you don't want to 162 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: read the House Committee report, which is thirty five pages 163 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 3: of just you know, one document after the next, read 164 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: read the stack. It you don't take you five minutes. 165 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: It's free. You can look at it. But and by 166 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: the way. There's something else when you go look at 167 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: the underlying documents. There's one hundred and fifty five pages 168 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 3: of emails that and a couple of like transcripts of 169 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: zoom calls that the House also released. The way they 170 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: that mourns and more is a huge fousheet. Partisan The 171 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 3: way he talks about Fauch is incredible. Fauch comes off 172 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: sort of like like a jeg or Hoover figure, like 173 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: he's incredibly powerful, he's touchy, you have to sort of 174 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: maneuver him. You can't tell him what to do. The 175 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: only people he will even pretend to listen to have 176 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: to have a Nobel prize at the you know, or 177 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: you know, or be like the head of a university. 178 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: He comes off, as you know, basically an egomaniac and 179 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 3: uh and you know, somebody who has to be handled 180 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: with kid gloves. And it is incredible to see this 181 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: discussion of him. And then there's another document and where 182 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: these where Morin starts talking about other scientists and basically 183 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 3: he categorizes them not by their intelligence or by you know, 184 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: the work that they've done, but solely by whether or 185 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: not they are pro or anti Fauci and pro or 186 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 3: anti being willing to look at the possibility of a 187 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 3: lamp weeks. It's sort of the worst kind of partisanship, 188 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: only this guy's supposed to be a scientist. It's really 189 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: amazing to see. 190 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: Do you think, based on everything that you have seen? 191 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: Rand Paul has been beating this drum senator from Kentucky 192 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: for a long time that he feels very confident that 193 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 4: Fauci lied in front of Congress that there would be 194 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 4: perjury charges that would be justified. Do you think, again, 195 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 4: asking the same kind of question that I did about 196 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 4: the New York Times in the Washington Post, do you 197 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: think if we had a completely honest Department of Justice, 198 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 4: which sadly we do not, do you think Anthony Fauci 199 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: should base charges criminals for his testimony based on what 200 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 4: you have seen. 201 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to definitively say 202 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: yes to that, yet I think the investigation is going 203 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: that way. I think that Peter Dazac, who was sort 204 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 3: of this you know, this independent fan, this independent group 205 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: that was a conduit for money between the US and China. 206 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: I mean, it certainly looks like Dazac should face contempt 207 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: of Congress charges and other criminal churches more insane thing. 208 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 3: Whether you get to Fauci at this point, you know, 209 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 3: I think it's close, but I think I think you'd 210 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: want one of those guys to slip before you would 211 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: do that. It's all kind of irrelevant anyway, because the 212 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: Justice Department, as you say, look Andy Slavitt, who in 213 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: particular is a figure in particular interest to me. Flabbott 214 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: was in the White House, and he's the guy who 215 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: tried to get Twitter and ultimately you know, succeeded in 216 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: getting Twitter in banning me in twenty twenty one. He 217 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: has refused to testify before Congress, and the Justice Department 218 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 3: has said they will not prosecute him for contempt of Congress. 219 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: So so so the you know, the the Biden White House, 220 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: you know, they complained constantly about Trump politicizing the DJ. 221 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: They are you know, just as bad, if not worse. 222 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 3: They you know, so I don't think we're going to 223 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 3: see that at the moment with Fauci, unless unless you know, 224 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: Laurens actually flips or something like that. 225 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 4: Okay, last question for you, and I mean again, I 226 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 4: think that if we had an honest media and an 227 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 4: honest Department of Justice. This would be such an unbelievable story. 228 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: What's the latest on the COVID shots themselves? Are people 229 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 4: just going to pretend that this whole era never happened. 230 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: It seems basically no one's getting boosters anymore. Stock prices 231 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 4: for Pfizer and Maderna to a large extent have tanked. 232 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: Where are we now on the actual shots? 233 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: I mean, that's about right if you and it's not 234 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: just in the US, by the way, if you look 235 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: sort of worldwide. I mean, you know, our country like Singapore, 236 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: which had near total compliance with the first two shots 237 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: and the booster they you know, they're complaining the COVID 238 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: is coming back and saying that more than eighty percent 239 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: of people you know didn't get a booster in the 240 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: last year. I mean, and that's Singapore, you know, Australia, 241 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 3: same thing, the US, same thing people, you know. So 242 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: the sort of the back guard argument that the pro 243 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: vaccine people think, oh, well, we all have immunity now, 244 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: so you know, that's why COVID isn't as bad. We'd 245 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: like you to get shots, but don't get them. The 246 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: truth is the shots basically failed. Almacrom is more mild. 247 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: Everyone got it. And now people I think people are 248 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 3: just done with COVID. You know, we've talked about this before, right, 249 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 3: people are done with COVID, They're done with the shots. 250 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: You know, MR and As have sort of left a bed. 251 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people get sick, a lot 252 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: of people had bad responses to the m R and as, 253 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: and I think a lot of sort of at least 254 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: healthy people under fifty or sixty are left wondering whether 255 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: they would have been better off just getting COVID and 256 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: being done with it. So so yeah, we're done. We're done. 257 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 3: We're done with COVID, and you can see I think 258 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 3: also that that you know, there's been a couple of 259 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: efforts to scare people about first about monkey pocks two 260 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: years ago, a little bit about av and flu H 261 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: five N one in the last couple of months, and 262 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: I think, you know, whether they admit it or not, 263 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: people are pretty pretty cynical right now about what the 264 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: public health establishment is telling them. And how can they 265 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: not be when you see the behavior well. 266 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: I mean, Alex, if you say, for example, still on 267 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: social media that the COVID vaccines you know, didn't work 268 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: as advertised or you still get dinged. I mean they 269 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: still cling to this or even if you say masks 270 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: don't work, they'll still sometimes give you like a fact 271 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: check or whatever. So they haven't actually backed off this stuff. 272 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: Well but yeah, but when you say they, I agree 273 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: with you that the public health establishment hasn't backed off. 274 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: But in terms of you know, in terms of your 275 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: question who's taking this, who's listening, I think a lot 276 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: of people are in a you know, fool me in 277 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: twenty twenty shame on you pull me in twenty twenty four. 278 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: You know it's not happening. 279 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: Alex. 280 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 4: We appreciate everything that you have done. Keep us updated 281 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: on how this goes. I would love personally to see 282 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 4: you sitting in the courtroom covering a doctor Anthony Fauci trial. 283 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: It would be fantastic. I am going to talk to 284 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: Rand Paul in the next couple weeks, so that could 285 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: be an interesting conversation and I hope to put it 286 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: on the stack. But you know, he's done great work 287 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: and we just have to keep pushing on these questions. 288 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: No doubt, and we will here as well. Thank you 289 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: for the time. 290 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: Thanks a lot. 291 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: Look, even the most advanced technology companies out there they 292 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: have data breaches, they could affect you and your online identity. 293 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: That happened earlier this month when Dell experienced a data 294 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 4: breach that exposed their info to forty nine million customers. 295 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 4: Stolen info didn't include credit cards, did include name, cities, 296 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: zip codes, what Dell products were purchased. Goes to show 297 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 4: how clever these cyber hacks are and why it's important 298 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: to protect yourself and your online identity. 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Appreciate all 314 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 4: of you hanging out with us as we are rolling 315 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: through the government of the State of New York making 316 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: their case right now for why Donald Trump has committed 317 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 4: thirty four felonies relating to the business records case that 318 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 4: is taking place right now. Possibility of the jury getting 319 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 4: this case as early as tomorrow to begin their deliberations. 320 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 4: Question then out there, how long would the deliberations go on? 321 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 4: How long would the judge demand the deliberations go on 322 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 4: in the event that there is actual discord or uncertainty 323 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 4: or disagreement as to whether or not there should be 324 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 4: a conviction. And just another this a breaking news alert. 325 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 4: This is already out there, but from breaking nine one 326 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 4: one on X the Secret Service has met with New 327 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 4: York City jail officials regarding the possibility of President Trump 328 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 4: being convicted in a hush money trial. And they're citing 329 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 4: CBS News here, but this is getting out there and 330 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 4: they're not just talking them about the conviction. They're talking 331 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 4: about what happens if he's convicted and there's a sentence 332 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 4: of incarceration. 333 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: Obviously, we'll talk about it. 334 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: You know, there aren't that many people out there who 335 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: can see what's coming and help you prepare in a 336 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: way that you can protect your money and even make 337 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: more money as a result of their insights. There's one 338 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 2: guy I know who can certainly do that, and he's 339 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: been doing it for decades, Porter Stansbury. 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Nothing may 350 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: ever be the same. Go check out this documentary today, 351 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: Last Election Plot dot com. That's Last Election Plot dot com, 352 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: paid for by Porter and company. 353 00:18:52,880 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 6: Libertarians Libertarians at their three percent Donald Trump showed up 354 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 6: at the Libertarian uh you know convention this weekend where 355 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 6: they chose a guy who is firmly in favor of drag, 356 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 6: Queen Story Hour, and sort of a lot of the 357 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 6: transgender stuff in front of kids. So yes, uh, this 358 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 6: was they They liber Libertarians nominated Chase Oliver for president. 359 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 6: I thought this was really funny, though, clad I you 360 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 6: saw this. Libertarian presidential candidate Michael Rechtenwald confirmed over the weekend. 361 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 6: Forget who the reporter was it said this confirmed over 362 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 6: the weekend that he ate an edible before the press conference, saying, quote, 363 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 6: this was not some sort of major political scandal. Okay, 364 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 6: I wasn't found in bed with Stormy Daniels. I'm at 365 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 6: a Libertarian Party convention. Somebody, somebody offered me something, and. 366 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: I would say, one of these guys, one of these 367 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: guys just like tripping on shrooves or something. 368 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, why not look a libertarian. 369 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: It's you gotta go through a libertarian face, probably in college. Okay, 370 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: it's a good time to go through it. We were like, 371 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 2: why can't we all just like do whatever we want, man, 372 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: and like the government like not exists. 373 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: Man. 374 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: It sounds great, sounds great, but unfortunately the world's a 375 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 2: little more complicated than that. And I know that's a 376 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: little a little reductive and a little dismissive. But you know, 377 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: when libertarians lost me, I don't remember. I don't remember 378 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 2: libertarians going to the to the mat over COVID stuff 379 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: at all at all. They a lot of them were 380 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 2: really like, oh, the science. They were like, all right, 381 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: I'm a smart person who likes the science too, so 382 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 2: they all any libertarian who wasn't this is tyranny. This 383 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: COVID stuff is insane. I don't want to hear anything 384 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: because because they failed the ultimate stress test. But just 385 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: put that aside for a second. Trump, Uh, Trump was there, 386 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: and I just want you to hear this exchange, Clay, 387 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: this is great. They started to boo. Trump went to 388 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: Libertarian Party convention, which I'm sure is a great place 389 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: to find some really kind bud if you catch my drift, 390 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: probably some really excellent marijuana cigarettes. But here is Donald 391 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: Trump talking libertarian folks in attendance, and they got. 392 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: A little salty, little saucy with them. Play nine. 393 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 7: First time in US history that a presidential candidate of 394 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 7: a rival party will address the convention of a party 395 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 7: that is presumably gathering to nominate its own candidate. Now 396 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 7: I think you should nominate me or at least vote. 397 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: For me, and we should win together. 398 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 7: You heard those words nominate me or vote vote for me, 399 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 7: because the libertarians want to vote for me, and. 400 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: Most of them will. 401 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 7: That is why I'm committing to you tonight that I 402 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 7: will put a libertarian in my cabinet and also libertarians 403 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 7: and senior posts. 404 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: Pretty good, that's pretty big. 405 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 7: Oh, you can't keep going the way. 406 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: You have for the last long. 407 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 7: Decades and get you three percent and meet again and 408 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 7: get another three percent. Now you want to make yourself winners. 409 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 7: It's time to be winners. You have a lot of 410 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 7: common sense. It's time to be winner. Time to be winners. 411 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 7: Stop being losers. Join Trump. I'll make some libertarian senior 412 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 7: people my administration. 413 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: This is what other politician, which other politician in the 414 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: country could go into a room like that, get get 415 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 2: booed resoundingly and then turn about half of it to 416 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 2: applause and make the people booing look like the imbeciles. 417 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: The guy who is their nominee was, my understanding, a 418 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: big masking guy. So the idea, to your point, Buck, 419 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: of so many libertarians being absent at the most important 420 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: moment of governmental overreach in any of our lives. That 421 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 2: they just abandoned the field and said, you know what, Yeah, 422 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: you're right. You shouldn't be able to go to church, 423 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: you shouldn't be able to go to school, stand six 424 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 2: feet away from someone put on a mask. They demanded governance, 425 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: and their entire philosophy is supposed to be, hey, let individuals. 426 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 4: Make their own decisions. They didn't stand by their principles 427 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 4: at the time of COVID, when we most desperately needed 428 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 4: people to be willing to stand on principles, they were, 429 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 4: to a large extent absent. Libertarians were completely completely mia 430 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 4: during the COVID battle. 431 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: That's just that's my impression of it. But I found 432 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: a lot of found you. I found you, mister sportsman 433 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 2: over here. I didn't know what the sec was. I 434 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: found you because you were like masking as stupid, open 435 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: up the you know, the sporting events should happen again. 436 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: And I found a lot of other people, you know, 437 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: and Carol Markowitz and Jordan Shacktell and and you know, 438 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: I go down the list. Jesse Kelly and I were 439 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: sitting around talking all the time about how crazy all 440 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: the mask stuff was, and Libertarians were Mia Man m 441 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: i A. 442 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: They were. They totally. 443 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: It was their moment to finally be worth something beyond 444 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: legalizing marijuana, which also, by the way, terrible. It's actually 445 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: terrible for the country. It's terrible for society. Put that aside, 446 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 2: you know, legalizing weed really important. Being able to breathe, 447 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 2: not with a mask on, not apparently that important. But 448 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 2: I think that Trump will get some of the libertarian 449 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: vote because look, I mean Rand Paul I think philosophically 450 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: is a libertarian, but he governs as a Republican, meaning 451 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: he realizes the world that we're in and has to 452 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 2: operate within the framework that we have. Because he's an adult. 453 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 4: Some of them can get mad at me over this buck. 454 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 4: As you well know, if you are in a battleground 455 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 4: state and you vote libertarian, you are voting for Joe Biden. 456 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 4: I'm are you just if you're listening to us right 457 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: now and you're in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia, maybe Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, 458 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 4: maybe even New Mexico, you don't have the luxury, in 459 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 4: my opinion, to go out. I think you're wasting your 460 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: vote in those states. Now, people say, oh, you voted 461 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 4: third party before, and I have, But I live in Tennessee. 462 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 4: People make mistakes. I live in Tennessee. The Republicans are 463 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 4: gonna win Tennessee by twenty points. If you live in 464 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 4: a state, if you live in California, or you live 465 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 4: in New York or whatever it is, maybe New York 466 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 4: gonna be a battleground state. Got to change my tune there. 467 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: Live in California, you live in Alabama, and you decide, hey, 468 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 4: you know what, I really care about this libertarian issue. 469 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: Do whatever you want, because we know how the outcome 470 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 4: of those states is going to be when it comes 471 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 4: to the presidential election. But I'm sorry if you're listening 472 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 4: to us in Wisconsin and you show up and you 473 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 4: vote libertarian and you would otherwise vote Trump. Now, if 474 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 4: you're a big Biden person and you want to show 475 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 4: displeasure with Biden, I hope you dive right into the 476 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 4: Libertarian party because that's a vote taken away from Joe Biden. 477 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 4: But if you're trying to make a decision, you're sitting 478 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 4: around right now and you're like, boy, I don't know 479 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 4: Trump or the libertarian candidate than Trump er RFK Junior 480 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 4: I think that you are putting the worst president potentially 481 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 4: of any of our lives into the White House again, 482 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 4: And to me, that makes you a loser. And I'm 483 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 4: sorry if that offends people, because I'm well, in this case, 484 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 4: you're helping to ensure that the worst president in any 485 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 4: of our lives stays in office. To me, that makes 486 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 4: you a loser. So that's the way that I would 487 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 4: analyze this as it pertains to the Libertarian, to any 488 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: other third party out there. And every time I say this, 489 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 4: people are widing in my mentions like, well, Trump isn't 490 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: perfect on I get it. This is the real world. 491 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 4: Every single candidate out there is not going to be 492 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 4: your night in shining armor and be perfect on everything. 493 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 4: Biden's awful on virtually every single issue. And oh, by 494 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 4: the way, his brain doesn't work, and we're in danger 495 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 4: of spiraling into World War three. This is not the 496 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 4: time for you to be sitting around going third party, 497 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 4: in my always humble opinion. 498 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: Now, there have been times where we thought a brain 499 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 2: didn't work and maybe it was having some trouble, but 500 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 2: then it made something of a comeback. John Fetterman, Yeah, 501 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: John Fetterman, we. 502 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 4: Caught as a transition that was by you, John really 503 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 4: well done. Helped procure the release of the American husband 504 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 4: slash dad who got got arrested in Turks and Caicos 505 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 4: for the couple of rounds of loose ammunition in his bag. 506 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 4: Coming back. He was lyrically five of these guys, Buck, 507 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 4: I didn't realize how many there were five different guys 508 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 4: caught up in the same charges. And Fetterman, my favorite 509 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 4: Democrat senator you talk about an upset, decided this is 510 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 4: wrong and put himself in the mix and got this resolved. 511 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: Tell everybody Range for a bag for the Range bags 512 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: for everything else. Do a do not have a one 513 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 2: bag that you use, you know, one day for the 514 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 2: office and one day for the Range. It's not worth it. 515 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: You can get a bag on Amazon, you know, you 516 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 2: can get a Range bag for now thirty or forty bucks. 517 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: Do not mix. 518 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: In my opinion, And I've seen this, and I've been 519 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: through this before, and this was told me by, like 520 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: I said, an SF guy with decades of experience and 521 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: had been all over the world traveling through airports because 522 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: you know, in the specofs guys they'll sometimes just sort 523 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: of fly, you know, not necessarily military aircraft and anyway. 524 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: But Fetterman back to the point here, Fetterman helped get 525 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: him back. It's good work, good work by Fetterman. I mean, 526 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: unless I'm missing something. No, he got involved and used 527 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: some political pressure and brought back in them, brought back 528 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: one of ours, brought back an American. And he's really 529 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: good on the Israel stuff. 530 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: I know. 531 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure he's a communist on a million other things. 532 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: And we'll say that when he says the bad things. 533 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: But Fetnerman may be the best Democrat senator in the 534 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: Senator right now. That may be the best Democrat of 535 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: all the senators, because I can't think of anything other 536 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: Democrat senators are doing worth a damn, So just throwing 537 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: that out there. 538 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 4: No, there's a big piece on him in the New 539 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 4: York Times where he basically takes aim at the progressive 540 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 4: element of the Democrat Party and says that he doesn't 541 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 4: believe that they're right on a lot of things. I mean, 542 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 4: he's even said a lot of things that are right 543 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 4: on the border, I think. And he went to he 544 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 4: went into rehab. I guess it was technically treatment for 545 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 4: mental health related issues. At Walter Reed and he came 546 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 4: out and I don't know if he felt liberated in 547 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 4: some way, but he came out as the sanest Democrat senator. 548 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 4: And he's been right on a lot of things. And 549 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 4: this is an example this thing. 550 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: I just I think I underestimated the guy. 551 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's amazing on everything or anything like that, 552 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: but I think, go under it. 553 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: I'll just admit it. I underestimated the guy. 554 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: He's actually shown shown some ability to make the right 555 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: call on a few things, on a few things that matter. 556 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: So there you go. I think I got that one 557 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: a little off, a little wrong. 558 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 4: I did too, And this is an example of how 559 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 4: a senator can use his force to actually tangibly get 560 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 4: something good. We talked about the fact that Turks and Kkos, 561 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 4: there are five different individual men from the United States 562 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 4: who were being held in face twelve years in prison 563 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 4: over this issue, variety of different states. Fetterman went to 564 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 4: Turks and Caicos and basically said, this is ridiculous. Let's 565 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 4: get this solved. 566 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: This is also why you know men's rea. 567 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: And he just goes back to English common law, goes 568 00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: back to the Constitution, and just a fundamentally just society. 569 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: You know, a total accident is a total accident. Yeah, 570 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: I know. There are some strict liability crimes and things 571 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: like that, the very few of them, and that's a 572 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: good thing. But you know, if you didn't mean to 573 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: do anything wrong and something happened, that should always at 574 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: least be taken into account. And in most cases, I 575 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: think it's hard to argue that somebody is a unless 576 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: they're you know, there's recklessness. There are things, but if somebody, 577 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: you know, forgetting to take your illegally owned bullets out 578 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: of your bag when you're at the range and you're 579 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: traveling somewhere else, there is no harm done to anyone, 580 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: there is no risk to anyone, and there's no intent 581 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: to break any laws, and that should all be taken 582 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: into account. 583 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 4: Also, somehow they didn't get caught going to the island, right, 584 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 4: which is another part of this. They only got caught 585 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 4: returning after they had already arrived at the island, So 586 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 4: they went through TSA or whatever else and didn't get flagged. 587 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: As messed up as our system is in this country, 588 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: you would, as an American, you would rather be in 589 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: our justice system, and nobody else does. 590 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that it's not and it's not even close. 591 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 4: So all five of these guys got failed, arguably by 592 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 4: our TSA, because if they had gotten caught, the punishment 593 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 4: would have been far less significant. They would have never 594 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 4: gotten there with that ammunition. 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A lot of you 621 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 4: traveling over the holiday weekend, probably still a lot of 622 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 4: you on the road now, and mayor Pete went on 623 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 4: over the weekend. Usually it's pretty safe for all the 624 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 4: Biden administration to go on. They have put billions of 625 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 4: dollars into trying to get you to get an electric vehicle. 626 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: That's despite the fact that. 627 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 4: It's still hard to charge, the amount of time it takes, 628 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 4: long trips, everything else not ideal. Is it going to 629 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 4: surprise you that the government has spent seven and a 630 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 4: half billion dollars to evidently only finish seven or eight 631 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 4: electric vehicle charging stations. Listen to Cut twelve. 632 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 8: The Federal Highway Administration says only seven or eight charging 633 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 8: stations have been produced with a seven and a half 634 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 8: billion investment that taxpayers made back in twenty twenty one. 635 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: Why isn't that happening more quickly? 636 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 8: So the president's goal is to have half a million 637 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 8: chargers up by the end of this decade. Now, in 638 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 8: order to do a charger, it's more than just plunking 639 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 8: a small device into the ground. There's utility work. And 640 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 8: this is also really a new category federal investment. But 641 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 8: we've been working with each of the fifty states. Every 642 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 8: one of them is getting formula dollars to do this work, 643 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 8: engaging them in the first handful. Again, by twenty thirty, 644 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 8: five hundred thousand chargers, and the very first handful of 645 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 8: chargers are now already being physically built. 646 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: I haven't set so much. 647 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: First of all, he's so smug and such a honestly, 648 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: such a clown and so inapt and just sort of 649 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 2: shows you what the box checking, resume obsessed managerial class 650 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 2: presents these days, like somebody who just is constantly sort 651 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 2: of smarming and like I worked at you know McKinsey 652 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: or Bane or whatever, and so no one cares the 653 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: guy has done a terrible job obviously as Transportation secretary, 654 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 2: because we know who he is and we know he's 655 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 2: done a terrible job. Transportation secretary shouldn't be somebody who 656 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 2: you have particularly strong feelings about any respect. Also, though, 657 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 2: where it's going to be in twenty you're not going 658 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: to be the press. You know, you're not going to 659 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 2: be part of the administration. A new administration can holy 660 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: change focus and change funding. This thing of Oh, by 661 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: twenty to fifty, we're gonna be like zero missions. It's 662 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 2: just childish, it's just absurd. It's nonsense. 663 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 4: Five hundred thousand charging stations by twenty thirty, as you mentioned, 664 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 4: they're not still in power. But to have spent seven 665 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 4: and a half billion dollars and only have seven or 666 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 4: eight of them, it feels like that should be a 667 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 4: bigger scandal than it is. I give it credit for 668 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 4: asking the question, but this is why the electric vehicle, 669 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 4: If you want to buy one, more power to you. 670 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 4: But this is why so many people in America are 671 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 4: not willing to make that choice. Particularly people have to 672 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 4: drive long distances on a regular basis. 673 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: You have to remember the point for Democrats of spending 674 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 2: the public's money in this way. It's not to actually 675 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 2: do things for the public. It's to buy vote and 676 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 2: pay off their people.