1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: I love the idea of being bleeped. It sounds so chic, 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Hi gay not that. No, no, no, we've beaten that 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: joke to death. It must stop. Likes that's better. Hello, 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: my fellow trans is um, yeah, I I feel like that. 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: I love Meg's daughter. She's amazing and also this new 6 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: season of Hacks like very fun to watch her. You know. No, no, no, 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: we are not talking about any media because peeling back 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: the curtain a little bit on the real lives of 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: myself and Ms Frangela Toronto Angela, we are spending them 10 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: on apart frants in New York. I'm still in Los Angeles, 11 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: and you know, it's pride and we should be closer 12 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: than ever. So we decided that, you know, we wanted 13 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: to spend a little time together catching up over zoom 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: and figured like, why not record it and make content 15 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: out of it since that is what we've done with 16 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: our entire relationship. Well, you know, obviously we protect a 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: lot of our friendship as well, but like, this is 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: a moment where we're like, as a gift to the virgins, 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: we want to bestow on you because it's a pride gift. 20 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: And we talked about like what this could look like, 21 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: and we mutually agreed. Even though I violated the agreement immediately, 22 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: we mutually agreed that this would be a non news discussion. 23 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: This is a key, Okay, this is we are just 24 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: like two sisters catching up talking about our lives in 25 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: a way that is very different from the other podcast 26 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: in which we usually catch up and talk about our lives. Yeah, exactly. Well, 27 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: the thing about having a key is, UM, you have 28 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: to like go out and do stuff so you can 29 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: later talk about it. And that's going to be really 30 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: a bit of it. Make it. I didn't say it. 31 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna be the one to say it, but 32 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: you hope that you it was implied because it wasn't fled. 33 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't fling. But like I, thankfully, thankfully, I've had 34 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: a very eventful week emotionally saying saying I And we're 35 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: also in UM. This is usually the time when I 36 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: would be in therapy. So I'm going to use this 37 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: as an excuse to um, you know, pour out personally 38 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: details for thousands of people to listen. Yes, I'm happy 39 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: to be your therapist. This is a lovely update in 40 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: our relationship. Can we talk about the power of adderall 41 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: because so I'm trying to find a psychiatrist because like 42 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: I've been feeling very unfocused. I'm working on a book 43 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: right now, and I need an adderall prescription. Hopefully none 44 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: of my potential psychiatrists are listening to this podcast, and 45 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: we'll know that. I've been getting m P and France 46 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: to give me uh samples, a sample sample, And the 47 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: other day I slammed an adderall. And when I tell you, 48 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: I have never felt I mean obviously like I've used 49 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: adderall before. I by vans like everything, but I forgot 50 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: just the power of like when you have something you 51 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: need to get done, taking an adderall and just like 52 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: sitting down and just fucking blowing through it and knowing 53 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: the whole time that you were a genius. Genius. No 54 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: one in the world is more creatively talented than I was. 55 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: I was like, right, I was writing a couple of 56 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: chapters of the book I'm working on, and as I 57 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: was writing, I was like speaking it and like typing 58 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: the words. That's like a good process for me. And 59 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: when I would finish a chapter, I would like read 60 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: it all back and I'd be like, oh my god, 61 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: you are fucking Joan Didian, you are jk rowling like 62 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: you are. It isn't it amazing when you use adderall 63 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: for it's like defined purpose as opposed to, you know, 64 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: recreationally like snorting it at parties. Well, the first time, 65 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: the first time I ever did adderall was also the 66 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: first I ever did cocaine, which you chicely hate. I 67 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: hate cocaine, But the first time I ever did both 68 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: of them. I was in college and there was this 69 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: kid I went to school with who did have an 70 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: overdose our first semester of college. He survived, but one 71 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: night he just like came over to my dorm room. 72 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: We lived across the hall from each other. It was like, 73 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: do you want to do cocaine? And I was like, okay, 74 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: I've never done it before. And so we did a 75 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: bunch of lines of cocaine and mixed with adderall, and 76 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: then he put on these ruby slipper platform shoes that 77 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: he had and we just walked around the block that 78 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: our dorm was on for like six hours. Oh my god, 79 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: that is honestly, that makes me nervous. I I I 80 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: don't even know the first time I took adderall. It 81 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: was actually my prescription adderall, so I don't have like 82 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: a kind of crazy story, but I'm trying to think 83 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: up the first time I did cocaine, I did feel 84 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: like my heart was going to explode, which I also 85 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: the summer Out for Local original recipe existed when it 86 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: was when it was like before before they literally had 87 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: to change the formula because it was getting people like 88 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: too drunk into hype. My friends and I used to 89 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: like slam to four locals into an eight ball of 90 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: cocaine just to like go out or just like hang 91 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: out and like talk. And you know when you do that, 92 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: like that cocaine talk where you're like, oh my god, 93 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: I love you. See, we are the best friends in 94 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: the world. We're gonna be friends until our nine You 95 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: are my sister Molly talk. But also a little coke talk. 96 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: I guess it's it's fast talk. It's fast talking. You're 97 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: just like exchanging ideas very fear ferociously, like sitting in 98 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: someone's bedroom lit by a single like lamp and just 99 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: talking about like rolling in the deep which would just 100 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: come out um and talking about it for like eight hours. 101 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: I think the first time I ever did coke was 102 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: at the Diamond Tor shoe and they used to do 103 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: this amazing plub kid party that I can't remember the name. Yes, 104 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: pretty ugly. That was, like, I mean, this is back 105 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: when I really was I did count myself amongst a 106 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: class of men who date men um and that really 107 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: it really was like a fucking men party, but they 108 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: were at least like clubs. That was also when I 109 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: counted myself as a class of men. Yes, not multile 110 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: not multi level marketing schemes, but mm um yeah, but 111 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: I I I think I remember really loving that party 112 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: because you know, we got to turn looks and like that. 113 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: The looks were like really really good. But I think 114 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: the venue is no longer called the Diamond Horseshoe. It's 115 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 1: called like the Samsung Galaxy Arena or something stupid like 116 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: the Yeah, every iconic venue is slowly going to be 117 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: turned into you know, cryptocurrency dot com or whatever. Like 118 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: every single venue is getting like you know, they get 119 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: bought by a corporation with a really ugly name that 120 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: you don't want to have to say all the time 121 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: when you say meet me at the zok doc you 122 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: know bar or whatever. I mean, that's why nightlife has 123 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: changed so much, because like At the time when I 124 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: was working in nightlife and was throwing parties, it was 125 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: a time when there were a lot of venues and 126 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: there were all these d i y spaces that you 127 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: could rent for a night if you like had you know, 128 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: a couple of thousand dollars and you could throw like 129 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: a disgusting you know, queer rave at. And now like 130 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: if you want to throw parties on that scale, like 131 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: they have to be a level of like corpora tized. Yeah, 132 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: and exactly it's and people getting paid, like like club 133 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: kids like submitting W two's to get paid. And let 134 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: me tell you, getting club kids to submit W two's, 135 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: I can tell you from experience impossible. Getting a drag 136 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: queen to fill out one single form. You might as 137 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: well like she might as well be dead. Like it's 138 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: it's not going to happen for you, Um, but that 139 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: is it really does. That's something that really sucks about nightlife, 140 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: the gentrification of nightlife, the kind of collapse of financial 141 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: infrastructure and nightlife is like in order to have like 142 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: a really successful party, it has to either cater to 143 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: white men or charge you know, thirty five dollars to enter. 144 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: And it's and that sucks because like night let people 145 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: in night life deserve to make a living. This deserves 146 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: to be a viable job, and everyone gets should be 147 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: paid their due um, except for like the scammers and 148 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: the abusers, of which in nightlife there are many um. 149 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: But like I I just I don't know. It makes 150 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: me depressed sometimes. Yeah, it really does come down to 151 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: like who has the ability to fund space? And I 152 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: guess at the time when I was throwing parties, it 153 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: was just like a little easier to make that happen. 154 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: But also when I think about it, like the people 155 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: who were like renting venues and like did it because 156 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: they had some kind of top at all, or like 157 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: some kind of hustle. Because there weren't a lot of 158 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: like permanent venues. There was the spectrum, which you know, 159 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: like r I P went through, went through so many iterations. 160 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: Actually I was gonna say, I said rest in peace, 161 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: but it's really more rest in chaos like that that 162 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: unless you're doing it at a really big scale or 163 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: like has some kind of like backers or whatever, it's 164 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: really hard to make money and night I mean trying 165 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: to do gorgeous, gorgeous this party in l A, which 166 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: is by the way, on the tenth at the Resident 167 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: in downtown Los Angeles, you can get tickets, you know 168 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: if you just check out my social Like this party, 169 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: it involves so much planning from the four of us, UM, DJ, 170 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: Louis La la Omar and myself, and yet like we 171 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: are barely breaking even because we want to pay talent 172 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: and we want to pay hosts, like everyone wants to 173 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: be paid, And I fucking hate parties that don't pay people, 174 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: Like there are still, especially in West Hollywood, parties that 175 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: are like literally not paying hosts, being like you get 176 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: to drink tickets and your name on a poster and 177 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: that's that. And it's like it's like that is that's gross. 178 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: That's gross, I know, And that hasn't changed since I 179 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: was working a nightlife and I started, like I started 180 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: throwing parties ten years ago. Yeah, I love the Poppy 181 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: Juice model because I think when I hosted like a 182 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: few prides ago, they paid me I think like three 183 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: hundred dollars, which is like a lot for a host 184 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: in my opinion, But and also like they emailed me 185 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: and they were like, you know, you don't have any responsibilities, 186 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: like here's the poster assets, but like you don't have 187 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: to like bring twenty people. We just want you to 188 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: have fun, Like your job is to show up and 189 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: have fun, and like you know, like bringing people thing. 190 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: The first party I ever hosted, we used to get 191 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: paid per head of people scam scan. This is an 192 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: m l M MLM and MLM Lally, there were nights 193 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: when I like, I only brought to people and you know, 194 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: so I would make like like or what I where 195 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: it was. I remember one nay I hosted this Susanne 196 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: barsh party and I was there for literally forty five minutes, 197 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: and then I like went to her. I was like 198 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: because I had another party that I had to work 199 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: that night, and I was like, hey, babe, like I 200 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: have to go, and she was like, oh hold on, 201 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: let me let me write you a check. And then 202 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: she had her assistant in the middle of the dance sport. 203 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: She wrote me a check on her assistance back and 204 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: gave it to me, And I made I made more 205 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: in like forty five minutes of being that party that 206 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: I did like in a week at my full time 207 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: office job. That is iconic. That is like I love 208 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: Susanne bar so much. Um that reminds me of the 209 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: SNL sketch Checks, you know with Sandra and Oh my God, 210 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 1: and it's written by Bowen and Julio. Is one of 211 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: the funniest SNL sketches of all times. Like Checks, Well, 212 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: Susanne barsh is very they never speak of this again. 213 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: She said she still pays everyone by check. She has 214 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: an a o L email address. Of course, she lives 215 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: at the Chelsea Hotel. Like that is the only person 216 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: to this day to live the Chelsea Hotel because it 217 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: used to be like an artist residency where a lot 218 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: of different kind of long types of people like maple 219 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: Thorpe and Um Patty Smith. I actually UM had like 220 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: an affair with someone who by affair, I mean like 221 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: I picked someone up at Nowhere Bar and like spend 222 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: a night with him. But that's an affair, that's a 223 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: Brooklyn affair. Yeah, he was in town, like he was 224 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: a tourist and he was staying at the Chelsea Hotel. 225 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: And this was right after the summer that I read 226 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: Just Kids. It was like such a quintessential New York 227 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: experience book is so perfect it is, I like picked 228 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: this guy up, we went and got pizza and went 229 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: back to the Chelsea Hotel and fucked all night, and 230 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: I was like, I am Patty Smith, I am Robert Thorpe, 231 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: I am all I am Well oh my god, Okay, wait, 232 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: you just dug up so much for me. I used 233 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: to host this other party at Beauty and Essex. Do 234 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: you remember that place? It's like I used to live 235 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: her on the corner front, so non non New Yorkers. 236 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: Beauty and Essex is a speak easy style um bar 237 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: wherein you go through an instrument repair shop to a 238 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: secret kind of bar that's like covered in red velvet. 239 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: It's very sexy and sleep but it's also like garbage. 240 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: And the worst people in Manhattan thrive in Beauty and Essex. 241 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: And I would ascend this velvet staircase pastor rope if 242 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: you like, you know, said the name Fran at the door, 243 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: and I remember I felt like so sheet. But it 244 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: was all produced by Michael, who's this like cereal like 245 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: horrible person. Honestly, a lot of party promoters are horrible people, 246 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: Like I mean not to name drop people. Actually we 247 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: can just we can. We can bleep it, but we'll 248 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: bliep it up. You do start feeling when you work 249 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: enough of those parties that like you, like you understand 250 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: that you are there to provide atmosphere for the people 251 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: who were actually paying to be there, who are paying 252 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: you to be there, and there is a very fine 253 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: line of feeling very valued and very disposable. Like I mean, 254 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: this is like a like totally stupid whatever example. But 255 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: at Holy Mountain, the Lady Fag party that I hosted, 256 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: like from the beginning of it, I don't know if 257 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: you ever went, but it was at Sleep and in 258 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: the main room, the Obsidian Room City, and there was 259 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: that booth in the back that like for the whole 260 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: maybe like first year, was where all the hosts hung 261 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: out on that floor, you know, and it felt very 262 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: like we were in there, like feeling fabulous, looking down 263 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: on everybody and like would do drugs in there and 264 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: like whatever. And then there was one night where Erica 265 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: Jane and we got kicked and we got kicked out 266 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: of the booth. And then from then on it was 267 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: like very clear that that booth was for actual v 268 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: i p s and not to the people who were 269 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: worked the part that fucking sucks, and that honestly is 270 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: a testament to how ugly queer spaces can be when 271 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: they prioritize people based on class or eliteness and not 272 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: actually usually people were like coming in, we're coming into 273 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: like do like a little Safari moment where they're seeing 274 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: the sights for the night. That booth at Holy Mountain 275 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: ended one of my relationships literally, yes, how so so 276 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: I dated this ballet dancer briefly. He is, unfortunately one 277 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: of I think six ballet dancers I have dated or 278 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: hooked up, which is honestly, like that needs to be 279 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm investigated. I mean, it's just it's just that I 280 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: like pretty pretty girls. I love bone structure and huge thighs. 281 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: But anyways, this guy was like he was rich, That's 282 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: what I'll say. He was rich. He was young, so 283 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: he was a brat. But he was hot and a 284 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: ballet dancer, so I didn't care. And one time I 285 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: was like, let's go to Holy Mountain UM. But we 286 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: didn't go together for whatever reason I can't remember. I 287 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: think he was coming with friends and I wasn't hosting. 288 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: But I had been invited to like sit a mandelaport's 289 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: table in the booth or whatever, the area where you 290 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: like look down on the rest of the venue, and 291 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: so when this guy came, I was already in the 292 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: booth and looking down to people, and I texted him. 293 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: I was like, come up to the booth, come up 294 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: to the booth, like let's hang, let's let's drink, and 295 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And I was very in my jug 296 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: and he never ever came up at any point like 297 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: I would have been able to let him in. And 298 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, what's going on? And I was 299 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: like should I go down and find him? Like I 300 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: don't really, he wasn't really texting me back, and like 301 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: when I finally like met up with him, I think 302 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: he was like I'm leaving and I was like what. 303 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: And so we went outside and proceeded to have like 304 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: a cigarette infused argument about yes, there out outside the 305 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: barber girl. We were both tourists, which is like a 306 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: key component of like why this didn't work out, And 307 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: he was like you were up there in the booth 308 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: like fully just like in your and like you just 309 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: think you're better than everyone else. And it was such 310 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: a power play and like I felt it like blah blah, 311 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: And I was like a power play, mama, Like how 312 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: insecure are you? That also mean it kind of was. 313 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: It's not power play to say come join me, but 314 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: they do. But I'm sure there was part of it 315 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: that was if you got him to see you in 316 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: that context of like but being being a special person 317 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: in this space. But of course I do like why, 318 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: like what I need to feel bad at? I totally 319 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: get that there was there was. There was nothing more 320 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: exhilarating to me than arriving at a party, walking past 321 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: the line, waiting to get inside, going up to the 322 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: door person and saying Hi, I'm on the list, or 323 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: like hi, I'm hosting tonight, or like working. It's the 324 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: best feeling ever. I mean, the worst feeling ever is 325 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: when you do that and your name isn't on the list, 326 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: oh my, and you have to either like stand there 327 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: and wait while they like confirm with someone or get 328 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 1: turned away, which I mean I would never has not 329 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: has not happened to me. I would never take no 330 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: for an answer. I would just argue until their resistance 331 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: was weekend like I although that did happen to me 332 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: one time, but it was in Berlin. There was this 333 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: this party that I was going to with a bunch 334 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: of locals, and they all got in because they were 335 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: friends with the door girl and I because I was 336 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: like the tourist I did, I like didn't know them well. 337 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: I like I had met them through friends of friends. 338 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: And Berlin is very like not that kind of city, 339 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: Like they make people wait and so they all got 340 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: in and I had to wait in line, and like 341 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: I eventually got to cut the line, but I did 342 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: wait for like two hours. I mean everyone else waited 343 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: for like five hours. But it was humiliated. I it 344 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: reminds me, honestly of the Madonna party at the Boom 345 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: Moon Room that kicked off Pride last summer, which is 346 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: too long of a story for me to tell now, 347 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: but maybe I'll tell it for a future for a 348 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: future key, because I do actually have to tell you 349 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: about what I did last night and why I am 350 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: severely hungover right now. Okay, wait, I do want it. 351 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: One thing though, is when you are working the door, 352 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: which I have done a couple of time's never done 353 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: that before. I used to fill in for um for 354 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Amy at the door Westgate occasionally, and the one night 355 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: I did was the night that is Zalia Banks performed 356 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: at Westgate. So the worst people on the planet are kind, 357 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: but but a girl That night was the night I 358 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: was taking bribes to get in and I made on 359 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: top of what I was getting paid to work the door, 360 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: I made like four hundred dollars that in bribes the 361 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: people who just wanted to get in and cut the line. 362 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: That's iconic. That's and then I and then I got 363 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: to like go upstairs to the booth and watch Zonias. 364 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: What's a good bribe? Like twenty bucks? Fifty bucks? Um? 365 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: Fifty was like the baseline. That's what I was gonna say. 366 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: I feel like it would have to be fifty um. Okay, um, 367 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: that is iconic. Azially Banks does draw some really some 368 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: really um terrifying crowds. As someone who's been in multiple 369 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: Assally Banks crowds before. Um, but I have to tell you, Okay, 370 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: so last night I went to this coach party which 371 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: was at the Monster. Do you remember the Monster? Yes, 372 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: I haven't really have spent a few quite a few 373 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: um nights that I would I would rather forget. It's 374 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: a it's a really I really love it, but it 375 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: is kind of a lost dingy gay bar. In the 376 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: last time I was like the Monster was when I 377 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: performed the Cell Blocked Tango from Chicago with Charlene Slater, 378 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: g S. Dring and um Amber Alert and a couple 379 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: other girls. That sounds we had like we had done 380 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: it one night at Straight Acting, I think, and then 381 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: like kind of toward it around a few different parties. 382 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: We did it at the Monster. We did it at 383 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: the party that Frankie Sharp used to throw at the Jane. Yeah, anyway, 384 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: that's so wait, wait, that's so funny. I um, I wait, 385 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: I have to know that, I think video if I 386 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: still have it on my phone, I will send it. Okay, 387 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm dying to see. I have to know where you pop? 388 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: Were you cioa, where you lipshits? I don't actually remember, Rose, 389 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: how can you not remember? I don't know, but I 390 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: will I will. I will find it and send it 391 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: to you. And then he ran into my knife. That 392 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: would be you, that's my guess. No, I don't think 393 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: that was me. I think I was. I was. I 394 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: was not Velma because that was shar obviously. M Well, 395 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: we'll figure it out, we'll figure it out. We'll figure 396 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: it out. Um okay, like so yeah, coach had it. 397 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: It was like in collaboration with the Monster, which I 398 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: think is cool. It's like a historic queer bar. And 399 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: Daniel Rasmussen, who did the pr for this, like pulled 400 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: the most amazing crowd for this coach party, and like I, I, 401 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a I'm not a fashion girl, 402 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: so I kind of had low expectations for it. I 403 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know, if I'm invited, like then 404 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: I don't know who's going to be there. It was 405 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: like everyone. It was like everyone who organized Brook Liberation 406 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: with me. It was the cast of Fire Island. It 407 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: Rajah was there and when I walked in, I immediately 408 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: saw Mark Jacobs, like it was just like the who's 409 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: who of like New York queer scenes and like Um 410 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: Aquaria djade Um as well as oscar Enia from Poppy Juice. 411 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: And there was some performance by Saucy Santana which was 412 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: so good. But Rose I got blitzed and I don't 413 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: know why, but I was like, I'm gonna drink champagne 414 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: tonight because like champagne is on the open bar and 415 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm guzzling champagne. At some point someone hands me extra 416 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: glasses of champagne. I walked away from the bar with 417 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: two glasses every time because it was so difficult to 418 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: get to the bar, and I got so so smashed. 419 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: At a certain point of the night, a neon sign 420 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: caught on fire because of some of the tinsel that 421 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: was behind it, and Willie Norris, Willie Norris takes everyone's 422 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: like throwing water on it. We're all faggots, so we 423 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: don't know what to do. We're like, how do we 424 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: fix this fire? The things on fire? Oh my god? 425 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: And Willie Norris comes out of nowhere with an extinguisher, 426 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: like full glam, like putting this fucking fire out. I'm 427 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 1: still looking for footage of it, if and if anybody 428 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: can find footage and send it to me. Um, but like, 429 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: my god, like this party was crazy, and unfortunately Matt 430 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: fucking Rogers was like, let's do shots. Rose. Why did 431 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: I do shots? Matt Rogers? Why did you make us 432 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: do shots? I'm very angry about this because putting a 433 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: shot on top of a belly of champagne is basically 434 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: does me. And I'm out for the night. My stomach 435 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: just turned. I do not remember the rest of the night, 436 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: but I remember having a ton of fun. But unfortunately 437 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: I did have sex planned after this party, um with 438 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: someone with like an ex who I have like a 439 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: really wonderful relationship with now and um, I basically like 440 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: I I like called them a voice momitor. I don't 441 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: even remember, but I was just like just a very warning. 442 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm blitzed, like I'm so sorry. I did not plan 443 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: to be this drunk and I was so drunk that 444 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: we couldn't have sex. I literally was incapable, and it 445 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: was I mean, we know each other well enough that 446 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: it was fine, but I was still embarrassed and I 447 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: was like, God, like this this sucks. And also while 448 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: I was blitzed, I don't know why they did this, 449 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: but like while I was like ship faced on my 450 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: bed and we're like talking and like laughing about like 451 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: how drunk I am and how we can't even hook up, 452 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: they decided to take that moment to be like, hey, 453 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: you sub tweeted me the other day and it really 454 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: bothered me and here's why I hurt my feelings. And 455 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: I was like no, like because I was like it 456 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: was something that I shouldn't have done. It was it was, 457 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: it was not it was not a nice thing to 458 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: tweet um, but but they brought it up in that moment. 459 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: It and also they don't have Twitter, so I didn't 460 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: think they were ever going to see but someone sent 461 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: it to them, which is like, don't be a fucking cops. Sorry, um, 462 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: but they literally were like, um, hurt my feelings. And 463 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: I was like, I, you know, I want to do 464 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: right by you and I want to be accountable for 465 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: my behavior, but not in this state of mind I 466 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: am in right now. I mean, that's what happens when 467 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: you're that sucked up, as you go from sucking to processing, 468 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: like immediately. Well, I think since we've been you know, 469 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: catching up and being a little more personal, a little 470 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: more vulnerable, why don't we like try telling each other 471 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: a secret? A secret? Oh? Yes, I think we should 472 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: try and do a little game of truth or truth 473 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: when we do these little keys. Yes, and if I'm 474 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: telling the truth, these secrets were actually prepared by producer 475 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: Phoebe as we've been, who wrote some really juicy question yeah, 476 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: some of which we absolutely will not be answering when 477 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: there's a microphone recording our responses, and some of which 478 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: are a drag like many of them are a read 479 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: in and of themselves. Yes, I do feel like we 480 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: are being live sub treated by Phoebe um, as we 481 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: often are while we record as it should be. Yeah, 482 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: so so yeah for in which of these questions do 483 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: you want to answer? Well, one of them is, uh, 484 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: as people with public personalities, what is your favorite thing 485 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: you lie about to your fallowers? Which is like now 486 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 1: they're gonna know. But the thing about podcasting is like 487 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: this stuff never like you know, catch us fire like 488 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: gets transcribed, and so we can say anything we want 489 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: and honestly, no one will ever know about it except 490 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: for the you know, small select people, a group of 491 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: people that listen to this pod. Okay, I'm going to 492 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: have kind of, um a boring answer because it's not 493 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: a lie. I feel like I'm actually pretty honest with 494 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: the way I present myself online except meybe like the 495 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: law I have like face tune, which I don't use anymore. 496 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: But I think I try to engage with social media 497 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: in a way that feels very like I don't care 498 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: about any of this, like I could take this or 499 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: leave this, I could delete my Twitter tomorrow, um, when 500 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: in fact, like I actually receive a lot of validation 501 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: from the attention I get on social media, and so 502 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: like the casual nous of it is the lie can 503 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: we talk about this for a second, because when we 504 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: spent a few New Years ago together, you know, before 505 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: we went to this like random party, we were laying 506 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: in bed and you showed me like at the time, 507 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: how you like photoshopped your photos, and my jaw dropped. 508 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: I was like, what have I been missing out on 509 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: this whole time? Because I, you know, used to photoshop 510 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: my photos a lot too, and now I don't. But 511 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: I had never used face tune before or whatever app 512 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: that was. It was like, really like it was face 513 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: It was a lot. I know, I was a really 514 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: heavy handed face tune user, and like nothing nod it 515 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: looked unnatural. It no, it was it was really like 516 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: I wanted to look the way that I looked if 517 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,239 Speaker 1: I took like the perfect photo of myself or you know, 518 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: just like twisting the things that I don't like about 519 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: my face or like whatever. And it was also at 520 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: a time when I was just like posting a lot more, 521 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: was like much more visible on social mediaw you're back 522 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: to being visible. So maybe it's uh, but your but 523 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: your thirst traps are one up to now you don't 524 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 1: have to use the face tune. I don't post like 525 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: that anymore. So I don't find myself needing to use 526 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: face tune. But then again, like that is the lie. 527 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: Like I do want the validation that comes from posting 528 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: a lot, but I am like so cognizant of wanting 529 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: to do this performance of not caring about social media. 530 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: But like to be fair, we both have very low 531 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: self esteem, like we were very insecure. I'll speak for 532 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: myself at least, like I'm very insecure, and like I 533 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of this is reparative work, Okay, 534 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 1: I'm trying to grab the compliments that, like, you know, 535 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: to make up for lost time of like telling myself 536 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: that I was ugly for like you know, twenty years 537 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: or whatever, thirty years. And I feel like, um, I mean, 538 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: I luckily don't photoshop anymore either, but I used to 539 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: like make my ass bigger, which is so embarrassing. So 540 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: but obviously, I mean, James Charles doesn't need photoshop. But 541 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: you know, she she's she's got the real deal, I 542 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: mean real in air quotes. Um. But like I I mean, 543 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: now my are obsessed with James Charles. I am, I am, 544 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: I won't stop talking about her. Um, but like I 545 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: literally yeah him say his name. Yeah, So what's what's 546 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: your lie? Your followers? I mean, honestly, I this is 547 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: like a white lie, and I think it's relatable. I 548 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: think a lot of people do this, but like I 549 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: always say, like, I'm from Chicago, but the realty is 550 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: I was born on the South Side of Chicago, which 551 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: is Chicago, Chicago. But then like when I was five 552 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: or six, my parents moved into a suburb and so worried. 553 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: It's so barring. Can we can we can we each 554 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: tell each other what we think the answer should be. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, okay. 555 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 1: So the lie that I think is that you are 556 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: not as nice as you present on that and I 557 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: mean that as a compliment. Is a compliment, But you are. 558 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: You are fucking queer mother Teresa on social media. You 559 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: are hey babies, I love you so much. You are 560 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: holding space for everyone, and you are not that nice, 561 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: not straight. You are my sister, but you you are 562 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: much you are And this is again I mean this 563 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: as a compliment. You are much meaner I r L 564 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: than you than you present online. I take that as 565 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: a compliment and I will own it because with my friends, 566 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm a very tough lover I'm very direct. I don't 567 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time coddling. I just tell you 568 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: how it is. If you are coming to me to vent, 569 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm usually not the right person to do it. I'm like, 570 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: let's problem solve, you know what I mean? Um, but 571 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: if I don't know you, God help you. Like, I 572 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: don't have a poker face, so I immediately turn off 573 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: if I'm not interested in conversation with you, And it's 574 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: very apparent that, like I don't care about this conversation. Um. 575 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: And I also just like if someone crosses me, like, 576 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: I have no problem being like, um, excuse me, I'm 577 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: worth more, you know. Um? But yeah, as I should. 578 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: But yes, what do you think? What do you think? 579 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: My lie? Is? I think you're a lie? I think 580 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: you're a lie? Is that all your tweets are sublime 581 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: moments of genius that happened on the spot, when in 582 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: reality you test drive them on me first. I definitely 583 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: do test drive them a lot. A lot of things 584 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: I tweet are things that I say in real life, 585 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: and then if someone laughs at them, I'm like I 586 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: should tweet that, yes, yeah, and I experienced that a lot, 587 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: like I'll be you know, I'll do my kind of 588 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: my semi regular like checking on your Twitter, and I'll 589 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: be scrolling and I'll be like, oh, yeah, Rose said 590 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: that to me the other day, So I guess it 591 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: makes sense. But you know, like it's it works out 592 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: for me because, as you know, I forget absolutely everything 593 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: I say to you as soon as I say it. 594 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: So to me. When I'm tweeting these things, they're brand new. 595 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: It's really just a journal, a diarrhe of sorts. Yeah, 596 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: just making sure you don't think I don't think I'm 597 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: lying by tweeting things like, it's not like I'm saying, 598 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: oh I just had It's not like every tweet to 599 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: have I I preface it by saying, oh, I just 600 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: had this amazing thought for the first time, and I 601 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: can't wait to share it with all forty four thousand 602 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: of you who follow me. Yeah exactly, Oh my god. Wow. Well, 603 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: now that we've exposed each other, I feel like this 604 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: has yeah, rosen Frand exposed. So we just asked each 605 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: other this, you know, like extremely personal question. Just tried 606 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: to expose each other. Ask a secret um for the 607 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: next the next couple of weeks. As we're doing these 608 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, Girls are Girling episodes. If you have a 609 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: question that you want to ask us, want us to 610 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: ask each other something very vulnerable, personal, vulnerable on Maine. UM, 611 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: slide into our d M s at like a virgin 612 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: for UM, and you know, pitch some questions and we 613 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: will answer them on air. 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